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[00:29:03] <jhertz> Hi, I'll try again :) has anyone in here setup Angular 2 in eclipse, using TypeScrit?
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[00:38:52] <Jayce381> How do I make Get request in Angular 2?
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[00:40:54] <uru> Jayce381: RTFM
[00:41:46] <Jayce381> I don`t understand still, in angular 1 it was in services, where here?
[00:42:02] <uru> Same in ng2, you want the http service
[00:42:20] <Jayce381> So I need to import http service as module?
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[00:43:06] <uru> the manual covers this
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[00:44:43] <baweaver> Not sure where I've misconfigured something, but I'm trying to load a local json file and it keeps responding with the angular page
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[00:45:14] <baweaver> straightforward $http.get('data/tabs.json') and it keeps returning the main page.
[00:45:19] <baweaver> any ideas where to start poking at?
[00:45:28] <baweaver> I'd guess somewhere in the express configuration
[00:45:45] <baweaver> but that doesn't account for the CSS and JS still working perfectly fine.
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[00:47:10] <baweaver> (I'll upload the entire thing on git in a bit if someone wants to look through it)
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[00:47:35] <uru> baweaver: Sounds like server-side config
[00:47:52] <baweaver> yeah, trying to find where Express is doing something naughty locally.
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[00:49:16] <baweaver> still very much a raw project I've started with today
[00:49:29] <uru> never used Express so can't sayu
[00:49:39] <baweaver> Most of the work so far was ripping their HTML page to JSON.
[00:49:53] <baweaver> I did some very dirty things with Regex I'm not particularly proud of on that one :P
[00:50:14] <baweaver> fair fair
[00:51:04] <baweaver> which was just me adding some stuff to another seed so I'd quit having to hunt down jQuery shims.
[00:52:16] <baweaver> now to hunt down where express is getting its default configs...
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[00:54:50] <baweaver> Aha, ASSET_EXTENSION_REGEX
[00:54:52] <baweaver> found it
[00:56:09] <baweaver> Got it. It was redirecting to / for any non-matches on local express for anything that didn't have an asset extension
[00:56:21] <baweaver> I'll probably kill that later, but for now adding json to it works.
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[01:02:07] <angularjs341> Hi, I have a little question, when I post with angular in the method shows me "option" instead of "post"
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[01:08:38] <da_wunder> angularjs341: create plunker of your problem
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[01:10:26] <da_wunder> angularjs341: and if you're talking about HTTP method OPTION then you're most likely doing CORS request
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[01:10:52] <da_wunder> and if that is the case OPTION request is always happening
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[01:25:04] <snurfery> oh man
[01:25:11] <snurfery> I'm so behind in recent angular knowledge
[01:25:25] <snurfery> like all of 1.4.x and 1.5.x
[01:25:32] <snurfery> and there's some amazing stuff in there jeeeeez
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[01:28:00] <zomg> Amazing stuff?
[01:28:23] <snurfery> component is huge. just found out about that. $ctrl is nice too
[01:28:37] <zomg> Ah
[01:28:44] <zomg> $ctrl is just controllerAs, it has been around for a while
[01:28:48] <snurfery> I suspect there's a bunch more stuff, but at this point "I don't know what I don't know"
[01:29:00] <snurfery> yeah but it's a nice touch. mi gusta mucho.
[01:29:03] <zomg> I don't think there is much
[01:29:07] <snurfery> oh
[01:29:08] <zomg> It's just for an easier migration path to ng2
[01:29:15] <zomg> I mean component and the component-related stuff
[01:29:16] <snurfery> way to deflate the snurfery jeeeez
[01:29:19] <snurfery> haha
[01:29:19] <zomg> =)
[01:29:41] <snurfery> anything else happen in 1.4 or 1.5 that has made your life easier?
[01:30:13] <zomg> I have no idea which is why I asked :P To my knowledge there isn't anything else "significant" beyond the component stuff
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[02:16:13] <Ziberius> hello
[02:16:41] <Ziberius> I'm doing a post and returning some json....in one case it works and the json returned is present in the data attribute
[02:17:02] <Ziberius> but in the second case data is just empty
[02:17:08] <Ziberius> I'll post the examples
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[02:21:45] <Ziberius> the php is returning the json the exact same way
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[02:27:56] <bmonk> Ziberius: if data is empty the problem might be in the php return
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[02:28:37] <Ziberius> bmonk: yeah I debugged and the data is not empty
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[02:31:15] <bmonk> Ziberius: does res.status/headers return?
[02:32:58] <Ziberius> bmonk: status returns 200
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[02:33:14] <Ziberius> and headers fd/<(d)
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[02:34:05] <bmonk> and res.data?
[02:36:37] <Ziberius> bmonk: res.data is ""
[02:36:56] <Ziberius> it's possible it's php related but I don't see it
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[02:38:44] <bmonk> well, probably it is
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[02:39:29] <Ziberius> bmonk: at least the array is not empty when executing the php function
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[02:41:50] <bmonk> are you sending a JSON? Ziberius
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[02:43:42] <Ziberius> yes sending a json object
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[02:54:05] <jrdnmdhl> Hi all, I'm trying to set up a formbuilder form where the number of inputs can change depending on user activity. Not sure what the right way is to add/remove controls to the form on the fly. I am on angular2 final
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[03:03:51] <bmonk> Ziberius: any progress?
[03:04:38] <GreenJello> jrdnmdhl, start by figuring out how to model the data, and then the rendering becomes easier
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[03:16:19] <da_wunder> jrodicus: also you could get better support on official ng2 gitter channel
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[03:25:26] <Ziberius> hello
[03:26:03] <heartburn> lol
[03:26:03] <heartburn> 04:25 -!- Cannot join to channel #nodejs (You must be invited)
[03:26:17] <GreenJello> heartburn, #node.js
[03:26:27] <heartburn> ah, thank you, kind sir.
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[03:29:34] <Ziberius> how are you supposed to return a query from php to angular?
[03:29:48] <Ziberius> I have this line to get the data: $query->fetchAll(PDO::FETCH_ASSOC);
[03:29:51] <GreenJello> Ziberius, are you familiar with ajax?
[03:30:08] <Ziberius> but when i put the result in a json object that object is not recognized on return
[03:30:20] <Ziberius> I'm guessing something about the format is not ok
[03:30:40] <GreenJello> Ziberius, you have to send it as json from php, it doesn't do this automatically
[03:30:48] <Ziberius> data attribute is just ""
[03:31:33] <Ziberius> GreenJello: yes i know, I'm encoding it to json like this: $data = array("records" => $records , "status" => "OK");echo(json_encode($data));
[03:31:41] <Ziberius> where $records is the result of the query
[03:31:55] <Ziberius> if I change $records for some string I get the result
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[03:32:02] <Ziberius> but with $records i just get data ""
[03:32:10] <GreenJello> sounds like a php question
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[03:32:26] <Ziberius> GreenJello: oh yeah it's kind of ambiguos
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[03:32:52] <GreenJello> not really, it's not related to angular at all
[03:33:06] <ThusSpakeHarambe> try setting the content type in php
[03:33:07] <Ziberius> oh ok sorry then
[03:33:10] <ThusSpakeHarambe> with a header
[03:33:12] <ThusSpakeHarambe> header('Content-Type: application/json');
[03:33:17] <ThusSpakeHarambe> before the echo
[03:33:41] <Ziberius> ThusSpakeHarambe: yes i've done that...As I said if I replace $result with a string it works...so the json encoding is working
[03:33:55] <Ziberius> I'ts just something about the result that doesnt do well
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[03:34:20] <Ziberius> I meant $records of course
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[03:34:56] <ThusSpakeHarambe> can you look at the network request and see what the return result looks like in dev tools
[03:35:23] <Ziberius> ThusSpakeHarambe: yes that's how I know the data attribute is just an empty string
[03:35:28] <Ziberius> status is 200 though
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[03:36:24] <ThusSpakeHarambe> whats the output in the network request if you var_dump $records and die(); afterwards
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[03:38:59] <Ziberius> that's the first record
[03:39:40] <Ziberius> doesn't seem like valid json
[03:39:40] <da_wunder> so just echo json_encode($data); should do the trick
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[03:41:14] <da_wunder> or just echo json_encode($records); actually
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[03:43:43] <Ziberius> nope, if I do json_encode($records) I get an empty data
[03:43:57] <Ziberius> I'm guessing something about the result is not valid json
[03:44:02] <Ziberius> I'll have to inspect the data
[03:44:05] <Ziberius> thanx anyways :-)
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[03:44:33] <da_wunder> that data seems just fine
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[03:44:50] <da_wunder> although i haven't done json_encode in years
[03:45:00] <da_wunder> and neather should you
[03:45:16] <da_wunder> use some proper framework on your backend
[03:45:26] <ThusSpakeHarambe> try passing JSON_FORCE_OBJECT as a 2nd argument to json_encode
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[03:46:12] <Ziberius> ThusSpakeHarambe: ok
[03:46:23] <ThusSpakeHarambe> its a predefined constant so no quotes
[03:46:46] <da_wunder> your ide should autocomplete that
[03:46:58] <Ziberius> da_wunder: an example of a decent framework pls?
[03:47:08] <da_wunder> Ziberius: eg symfony
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[03:47:37] <Ziberius> da_wunder:ah i see, well too late for that now don't have time to learn a new framework
[03:47:45] <Ziberius> angularjs is enough for now :-p
[03:47:56] <da_wunder> so what framework you're using now ?
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[03:48:27] <Ziberius> da_wunder: just php
[03:48:31] <da_wunder> and remember that frontend (browser) and backend (server) are two totally different things...
[03:48:37] <da_wunder> so no framework
[03:48:40] <Ziberius> da_wunder: I know that
[03:48:49] <da_wunder> good luck then :D
[03:49:00] <Ziberius> da_wunder: I'm using angularjs, the point is one new framework is enough
[03:49:15] <Ziberius> ThusSpakeHarambe: JSON_FORCE_OBJECT didn't work :-(
[03:49:43] <da_wunder> that is angular frontend
[03:49:51] <da_wunder> which uses symfony as a backend
[03:49:54] <ThusSpakeHarambe> well if you post your php code and if you paste your angular code that is receiving it i can help you better
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[03:50:02] <ThusSpakeHarambe> in pastebin or some other service like it
[03:50:07] <da_wunder> use admin / admin credentials to login if you like
[03:50:30] <da_wunder> Ziberius: and really symfony part is just basic REST api nothing else
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[03:50:49] <da_wunder> both those projects are on my github
[03:51:40] <da_wunder> aaaargh
[03:51:52] <da_wunder> that is php that i did ten years ago...
[03:52:24] <ThusSpakeHarambe> lol you basically made a class with a switch statement
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[03:53:10] <Ziberius> ThusSpakeHarambe: you mean a file with a switch, I don't see a class
[03:53:15] <ThusSpakeHarambe> are angular errors being thrown?
[03:53:35] <da_wunder> Ziberius: i see multiple possible SQL injections...
[03:54:09] <Ziberius> ThusSpakeHarambe: not really
[03:54:24] <ThusSpakeHarambe> yep lots of sql injections
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[03:55:00] <da_wunder> Ziberius: throw that away and start using proper backend
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[03:55:15] <da_wunder> do not try to make that yourself
[03:55:19] <ThusSpakeHarambe> i think its probably just an example or something she or he is learning with
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[03:55:46] <da_wunder> and for that it is very bad example
[03:56:04] <ThusSpakeHarambe> Ziberius: when you're receiving data from the client you dont know what they are sending you so you need to sanitize the data that comes in before inserting it into sql queries
[03:56:13] <ThusSpakeHarambe> otherwise they can modify your queries with strings and do bad things
[03:56:32] <da_wunder> just like little bobby tables :D
[03:56:37] <Ziberius> ThusSpakeHarambe: yeah i know what sql injection is...I'll check that later i need it to work first
[03:56:42] <Ziberius> haha yeah
[03:56:46] <Ziberius> :-p
[03:57:11] <da_wunder> Ziberius: you don't check those later
[03:57:27] <da_wunder> you should check those at the first place
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[03:58:47] <jrdnmdhl> Hi all. I'm on angular2 final. What is a good way to add a new input to (or remove from) an existing formbuilder form? Haven't found a good example and I can't seem to get it to work.
[03:59:13] <da_wunder> jrdnmdhl: you could get better response on the official ng2 gitter channel
[03:59:25] <da_wunder> this is not official ng2 channel
[03:59:40] <ThusSpakeHarambe> where is ng2 channel
[03:59:56] <da_wunder> gitter as i just said
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[04:00:06] <heartburn> ThusSpakeHarambe: #angular2 as well
[04:00:09] <ThusSpakeHarambe> what is that
[04:00:16] <heartburn> but the place is barren.
[04:00:19] <da_wunder> and what they promote on angular.io
[04:00:22] <jrdnmdhl> thanks for the redirect, wunder
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[04:37:57] <Jayce381> Hello. Can somebody help me with angular 2?
[04:38:55] <heartburn> #angular2
[04:39:18] <GreenJello> seems weird that this channel wouldn't answer questions about angular 2
[04:39:50] <GreenJello> is it just that not enough of the helpers know angular 2 so far?
[04:40:14] <heartburn> the fact that ng1 and ng2 are two completely different beasts isn't weird at all. :o)
[04:40:27] <heartburn> nobody stops you from asking though.
[04:40:50] <heartburn> it's just that there's a channel for ng2 exclusively
[04:43:05] <heartburn> we have had it coming from the moment ng2 showed up. now some separation is necessary, because it will only lead to confusion.
[04:44:07] <ThusSpakeHarambe> the ng2 channel is pretty dead tho
[04:44:42] <Jayce381> yes
[04:45:03] <Jayce381> I just need too do GET request, but I don`t understand documentation and typescript
[04:45:17] <heartburn> shoot bro.
[04:45:21] <ThusSpakeHarambe> well your first problem is not understanding the documentation
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[04:45:53] <ThusSpakeHarambe> the 2nd problem is you didnt notice the dropdown in the lower left hand corner that lets you change it to js
[04:46:11] <Jayce381> This page is not yet available in JavaScript. We recommend reading it in TypeScript.
[04:46:15] <ThusSpakeHarambe> haha
[04:46:16] <Jayce381> unfortunately :(
[04:46:18] <ThusSpakeHarambe> what page
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[04:47:39] <ThusSpakeHarambe> well i recommend getting used to typescript its pretty simple
[04:48:10] <heartburn> > The Angular HTTP library simplifies application programming of the XHR and JSONP APIs
[04:48:18] <heartburn> > simplifies
[04:49:26] <heartburn> *proceeds to a ~5 meter text wall below*
[04:50:34] <ThusSpakeHarambe> rofl they did the page for dart before doing it for js
[04:50:45] <ThusSpakeHarambe> priorities man
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[04:52:40] <heartburn> the more i deal with the modern js meta, the more i feel like you'd spend the same amount of time/resources writing plaing js, comparing to learning all that new shit.
[04:52:51] <heartburn> if not less.
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[04:55:23] <heartburn> like, the hardest part is the dom updates, that is indeed a pain in the ass if you implement it natively.
[04:57:33] <heartburn> s/natively/without some kind of a framework/
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[04:58:10] <heartburn> everything else is all the same, no matter what next cool thing you write it with.
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[05:11:53] <Jayce381> TypeError: Cannot read property 'useDebug' of undefined
[05:11:58] <Jayce381> wtf does even that mean
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[05:12:45] <heartburn> that means you're trying to call the .useDebug() method of something that is not defined.
[05:13:27] <heartburn> let something = undefined; something.useDebug() // that error ---^
[05:13:44] <heartburn> make sure that your `something` is defined correctly.
[05:13:55] <Jayce381> I see. Now I saw online that method is removed in this version of angular
[05:13:55] <Jayce381> c
[05:14:04] <Jayce381> its called different
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[05:18:23] <Jayce381> angular 2 is big pile of shit
[05:18:30] <roadrunneratwast> why?
[05:18:37] <heartburn> because it is lol
[05:19:02] <roadrunneratwast> so you are sticking with angular 1
[05:19:03] <roadrunneratwast> ?
[05:19:08] <Jayce381> because im trying to use GET method for past 2 hours
[05:19:14] <roadrunneratwast> ok
[05:19:33] <heartburn> i'm doing my best to move as close to plain javascrip as possible.
[05:21:24] <heartburn> ng1 is gonna die out eventually (and unfortunately) ng2 is a convoluted mess, react is just unnecessarily weird (but hella popular, so there must be something to it), so there's not much left.
[05:21:43] <heartburn> maybe vue, i dunno.
[05:23:06] <heartburn> besides that, plain js is just nice, simple (comparing to 5 years ago), stable, and it doesn't require 83 megabytes of npm stuff to get going.
[05:23:28] <heartburn> i personally fucking love plain js.
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[05:39:13] <ThusSpakeHarambe> ng2 feels pretty simple to be so far
[05:39:18] <ThusSpakeHarambe> simple to me*
[05:39:40] <ThusSpakeHarambe> huge upgrade from 1.x imo
[05:39:50] <ThusSpakeHarambe> especially performance wise
[05:39:58] <GreenJello> yeah, I just went through the tutorial and it seems pretty nice
[05:40:19] <ThusSpakeHarambe> you might like aurelia heartburn, it was made by a disgruntled angular 2 dev who left the team
[05:40:35] <heartburn> oh, yeah. forgot about that one.
[05:41:02] <heartburn> it doesn't seem to be very populat though.
[05:41:07] <heartburn> r*
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[05:41:54] <heartburn> i mean, the job pool wise.
[05:42:14] <ThusSpakeHarambe> yeah it depends what your role is in life
[05:42:16] <heartburn> 80% of the stuff on upwork is either ng2 or react.
[05:42:42] <heartburn> with react being 80% of that 80%.
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[05:42:56] <ThusSpakeHarambe> ng2 needs a few months
[05:43:13] <ThusSpakeHarambe> their documentation is not fully updated with the changes they made near the end
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[05:43:48] <heartburn> ng2 will never outrun react, i'm afraid. it's released much later its time.
[05:44:08] <roadrunneratwast> has anyone developed for a mini screen size android (128x160)
[05:44:10] <ThusSpakeHarambe> no, but it performs well enough still and comparatively close to react
[05:44:23] <ThusSpakeHarambe> like 100x faster than 1.x
[05:44:36] <ThusSpakeHarambe> not really 100, but it was a dramatic improvement
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[05:44:51] <heartburn> ecosystem must be taken into account here. react has an enourmous amount of stuff built around it.
[05:45:04] <heartburn> and ng2 is very enterprise-oriented.
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[05:45:33] <ThusSpakeHarambe> yeah, i guess you could say thats the kind of work i do though
[05:45:38] <heartburn> meaning, it's way too complex for a relatively small (10k LOC or less) project.
[05:46:41] <heartburn> your dick is showing, btw.
[05:48:13] <ThusSpakeHarambe> i work on large client side applications, we handle the middle tier and presentation tier on the client
[05:48:20] <ThusSpakeHarambe> and backend is just a service
[05:49:08] <heartburn> yeah, that sounds pretty angulary.
[05:49:25] <GreenJello> I think angular 2 is fine for small projects
[05:49:32] <GreenJello> it's just the cost of training people to use it
[05:49:49] <GreenJello> same with react
[05:50:00] <ThusSpakeHarambe> can onboard them with bug fixes first and theyll see how it is structured
[05:50:08] <ThusSpakeHarambe> its pretty easy to ramp people up on existing codebases
[05:50:19] <ThusSpakeHarambe> if they have to develop one from scratch its more complicated
[05:50:32] <GreenJello> yeah, you need one person with a lot of experience
[05:50:51] <GreenJello> and they can do some light code review until the rest catch up
[05:50:52] <heartburn> no, it's not the same with react. with react there's a ton of ready-made stuff, you can put together a project without writing much code. ng2 doesn't have it.
[05:51:01] <heartburn> even ng1 haven't had it.
[05:51:17] <GreenJello> setting up a react project is really hard for new people and they often make a ton of mistakes
[05:51:29] <heartburn> i mean, yea, there's a lot of stuff written for ng1, but not even close to what react ecosystem provides.
[05:51:41] <heartburn> same is true for ng2.
[05:51:45] <ThusSpakeHarambe> lets just say that new people are going to make a ton of mistakes on any js framework
[05:51:46] <GreenJello> a bit easier with create-react-app since you don't need to worry about the build system
[05:51:48] <ThusSpakeHarambe> they're all weird af
[05:52:25] <ThusSpakeHarambe> but thats because javascript is always changing so the frameworks are trying to anticipate while being able to gracefully degrade
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[05:53:16] <heartburn> well, i'd say js is relatively static, comparing the the flow of new overhyped tools being released on a weekly basis.
[05:53:32] <GreenJello> and these things are even more difficult when you don't have a way to get feedback on what you're doing; s small number of people use IRC, for example
[05:53:43] <heartburn> besided es6 roullout, there isn't much going on.
[05:54:03] <ThusSpakeHarambe> thats a pretty big deal tho
[05:54:04] <GreenJello> yeah, things are stabilizing for now it seems
[05:54:10] <heartburn> of course it is.
[05:54:29] <ThusSpakeHarambe> but yeah the state of current tooling changes faster
[05:54:52] <ThusSpakeHarambe> ive noticed they are reinventing patterns from other languages
[05:54:58] <ThusSpakeHarambe> like promises and coroutines
[05:55:11] <GreenJello> but a year or two ago was pretty crazy, especially in react land; there were many competing flux derivatives, several routers, and wide spread antipatterns
[05:56:12] <GreenJello> oh and build systems; you had everything from grunt to webpack
[05:56:34] <heartburn> yeah, that's what i'm trying to get away from by sticking to plain js wherever possible.
[05:56:54] <GreenJello> you mean not using a framework at all?
[05:57:01] <ThusSpakeHarambe> i use gulp as like my master task runner and then any other "runners" or bundlers are ran from gulp
[05:57:10] <heartburn> using as few dependencies as possible rather.
[05:57:18] <heartburn> less deps, less headache.
[05:57:35] <GreenJello> I would have more headaches if I didn't use things like redux
[05:57:37] <heartburn> because your code is pretty static, and doesn't break when some lib updates.
[05:58:11] <GreenJello> breaking changes are fine imo
[05:58:30] <GreenJello> better than having bad apis survive forever, and you always have the option of not upgrading (kinda)
[05:58:31] <heartburn> said no project manager ever.
[05:58:32] <ThusSpakeHarambe> i lock down versions on everything and only update if i want to
[05:58:55] <heartburn> that's wise, yes.
[05:58:59] <GreenJello> I update my deps about once per month and it takes an hour or two
[05:59:23] <ThusSpakeHarambe> 3rd party libs that are required to make the app run i actually version because i dont want to rely on a package manager for production code, workflow dependencies i just lock down the version but i dont version it in git
[05:59:34] <GreenJello> it could take longer in theory, and a while ago it did but things are more stable now
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[06:00:21] <GreenJello> the only thing that took time upgrading react to 15 was some extra warnings about things I definitely should not have been doing
[06:03:57] <ThusSpakeHarambe> ^why i advocate versioning dependencies required for an app to function
[06:04:40] <GreenJello> well you also need to shrinkwrap your dependencies for them to not automatically update with npm
[06:04:49] <GreenJello> because of deps of deps
[06:04:49] <ThusSpakeHarambe> yeah
[06:05:20] <GreenJello> npm is currenty refusing to shrinkwrap due to peer deps issues >_<
[06:05:47] <GreenJello> I really ought to fix that, I feel unsafe not having an up to date shrinkwrap file
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[06:45:18] <Jayce381> angular 2 ngFor is not recognizing array of objects.................
[06:45:21] <Jayce381> .......................................................
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[06:58:34] <Vikas> HELP
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[07:18:39] <snurfery> sup yall
[07:18:52] <snurfery> saturday night party tiiiiiiime
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[09:34:34] <heartburn> i need a new keyboard.
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[10:38:11] <Raj_> hi
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[10:38:57] <Raj_> I have some quries
[10:39:13] <Raj_> can you please clear those?
[10:40:01] <Raj_> hi
[10:40:14] <Raj_> hi Jae
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[11:04:53] <beat25> hello again, i got another quick question about processing stuff on the server vs client: i have filenames stored on the database and need to add those together with a url to generate a complete path to files. now do i send both the url and all the filenames to the client and have a service that combines the two or do i compute it on the server and then pass the complete filepaths to the client?
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[11:14:01] <uru> beat25: I'd do that server side, that way if you want to change things you don't have to update the client code as well
[11:14:35] <beat25> uru: ok, i'm glad. i wrote the whole php api and found out about angular after haha
[11:15:30] <uru> Generally I'd say you wan to do as much processing as possible on the server side then the frontend code should only be worrying about presnetation of the data
[11:15:35] <beat25> so i guess i don't need to do any client side computations except for ui handling.
[11:16:17] <beat25> good, i was thinking the same thing. but getting into angular and into all that new client side stuff started to get me confused ha, thanks for your input uru
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[11:17:11] <uru> :) quite welcome
[11:18:09] <beat25> especially when thinking that i will send jsons with lots of repeating strings to the client say all my images point to google.com/ then my json would look like this:[{url: google.com/a.jpg}, {url: google/b.jpg}].
[11:18:24] <beat25> but then again in traditional websites it's exactly the same
[11:18:33] <beat25> and i kinda got lost in that micro optimizing hell
[11:19:05] <beat25> sending 1 kb less data and computing it on the client side wouldn't make any difference anyway.
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[11:55:31] <xteknoid> hi. i've just started looking at headless cms platforms as an api-first backend for my content projects. i was curious as to which headless cms platforms are commonly used by the angularjs community
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[12:11:33] <xteknoid> to that i have to add that i'm interested in self-hosted open source solutions
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[12:15:21] <uru> xteknoid: There are loads out there. Unfortunatly we use wordpress where I work, I can't recomend it at all.
[12:16:14] <xteknoid> uru: i'm looking for a wordpress replacement myself. wp rest api is lousy, as is wordpress
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[12:17:17] <uru> Yep, I can't offer any alterntives but can advice to stay away from WP
[12:17:54] <xteknoid> uru: there's nothing stopping me from writing my own, but that defeats the purpose of open source
[12:19:01] <uru> really depends what you need. If you want something simple then roll your own might be a way to go, but there are plenty of alternatives out there. Possibly you could build something on top of the drupal core, from what I remember hearing it's pretty modular
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[13:15:17] <mralex> da_wunder: thats great thank you, but I only want one item to have the active class at any time.
[13:15:22] <da_wunder> oh
[13:15:24] <da_wunder> sorry
[13:15:27] <da_wunder> one moment
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[13:21:58] <mralex> da_wunder: thanks ... am I missing something though? Seems to be exactly the same as the first example you showed? Do youi need to save it?
[13:22:04] <mralex> (I am new to plunkr)
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[13:22:39] <da_wunder> mralex: i just added that _.map ... part to it and saved it
[13:23:26] <da_wunder> what
[13:23:33] <da_wunder> plunker save doesn't work
[13:23:55] <mralex> I think that it has been a bit dodgy the last few days to be honest
[13:24:46] <mralex> da_wunder: perfect, thanks :D
[13:24:49] <mralex> legend.
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[14:35:05] <ngbot> angular.js/master 90f947b Adrian Bordinc: docs($compile): Fix a typo in the warning header...
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[14:40:50] <DiamondSword> hello AngularJS
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[14:41:28] <DiamondSword> I cannot install angular-cli with npm successfully.. please someone mind to help me?
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[14:43:50] <zomg> Do a pastebin with the full command and error message you got and if anyone knows why that happened they'll help
[14:46:27] <Ziberius> hello
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[14:47:00] <Ziberius> how are you supposed to exeute some controller code on click?
[14:48:12] <Chepra> Hi, is there guide to update from rc5 to final? :)
[14:49:57] <DiamondSword> here is my error file
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[14:52:20] <zomg> DiamondSword: it seems the webpack version you have might be too old
[14:52:28] <zomg> or possibly too new since it seems to be some beta version
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[14:52:50] <zomg> Peer sass-loader at 3 dot 2.3 wants webpack at ^1 dot 12.6 || ^2.1.0-beta
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[14:53:08] <DiamondSword> zomg, I just installed node and npm, then run the command: npm install -g angular-cli
[14:53:19] <DiamondSword> I didn't have webpack before
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[14:53:49] <zomg> try npm install -g angular-cli webpack at ^2 dot 1.0
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[14:53:55] <zomg> that might force it, not sure
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[14:54:08] <DiamondSword> ok
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[14:54:25] <zomg> it's a bit weird it's installing some wrong version of it to begin with..
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[14:54:34] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.5.x 347375d Adrian Bordinc: docs($compile): Fix a typo in the warning header...
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[14:54:51] <DiamondSword> bleh
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[14:54:59] <DiamondSword> I was just following the tutorial
[14:55:03] <DiamondSword> I'm really new to this
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[14:55:12] <zomg> yeah I've noticed a lot of people seem to be having problems with it for some reason
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[14:55:31] <zomg> I've not looked at it myself outside of helping people here so not sure what's up with it
[14:56:11] <DiamondSword> so, zomg what do you advise to start with? :)
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[14:57:36] <zomg> I dunno I just installed angular :P
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[14:58:03] <zomg> tbh I don't really even know what angular-cli is for, I'm assuming it's some tool to help with ng2 :D
[14:58:10] <zomg> (we're still on angular 1 at work)
[14:58:31] <Ziberius> i have an ng-init that executes a function in a controller
[14:58:43] <Ziberius> I now need to execute that funcion on a button click
[14:58:47] <Ziberius> how could I do that?
[14:58:50] <zomg> Ziberius: ng-click
[14:59:35] <Ziberius> zomg: ng-click on the button? ng-click with the same function that i now use ng-init on?
[14:59:56] <zomg> yes :)
[15:00:07] <Chepra> Hi, is there guide to update from rc5 to final? :)
[15:00:08] <Ziberius> zomg: ok thax
[15:00:32] <DiamondSword> zomg, thank you ~
[15:03:24] <zomg> DiamondSword: did that work?
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[15:10:08] <DiamondSword> zomg, not yet
[15:10:32] <DiamondSword> I'm trying with a higher node version. angular-cli for ng2 by the way :)
[15:11:58] <zomg> yeah I seem to recall at least one of the issues was a node or npm version related one
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[15:19:38] <ngbot> angular.js/master f604470 Elliot Cameron: docs(guide/filter): imrpove explanation of "pure function"...
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[15:32:40] <Ziberius> hello again
[15:32:47] <Ziberius> how do i map an input value to a scope vale?
[15:32:51] <Ziberius> ng-value?
[15:34:00] <soee_> any of you worked with angular-google-maps and implemented dropping marker from outside of map ?
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[15:41:25] <bmonk> Ziberius: ng-model
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[16:33:26] <ngbot> angular.js/master 3fe3da8 Georgios Kalpakas: fix($compile): set attribute value even if `ngAttr*` contains no interpolation...
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[17:23:54] <Ziberius> hello
[17:24:02] <Ziberius> can ng-repeat be used in a div for example?
[17:24:11] <Ziberius> or is it only to create tables?
[17:24:38] <Ziberius> I need to display information in other formats I have it working like a table but now i need to show a div for each row
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[17:32:42] <zomg> Ziberius: it works with any element
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[17:33:28] <zomg> Ziberius: but I'm hoping you didn't wait nearly 10 minutes for someone to answer and instead just tried it, because that's the quickest way to answer questions like that :)
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[18:18:30] <[1]David> How come everyone at ng-conf was using VS Code?
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[18:52:10] <Jayce381> how to iterate tree in angular 2
[18:53:27] <NTrash_> Could someone give me a brief intro to the capabilities of angularJS?
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[19:27:57] <DarkStar1> Hello all. Is it possible to define multiple controllers for a module in angular?
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[19:33:40] <DarkStar1> Anyone actually around?
[19:33:43] <DarkStar1> :)
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[19:39:00] <otha> hi
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[19:39:27] <kweku360> hello glad to be here
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[19:39:52] <kweku360> am kweku a front end developer
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[19:40:32] <da_wunder> ok
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[20:15:15] <Ziberius> hello
[20:15:29] <Ziberius> i need to use ng-disable to evaluate when a scope value = 0
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[20:15:34] <Ziberius> how would i do that?
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[20:16:55] <Ziberius> nevermind got it!
[20:16:57] <Ziberius> :-p
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[21:52:31] <Ziberius> is there an easy way to show some loading animation on post with angularjs?
[21:53:14] <GreenJello> Ziberius, you can set a boolean on $scope and use a ng-if to determine if it should show
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[21:53:25] <GreenJello> $scope.loading = true
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[21:54:03] <Ziberius> GreenJello: cool thanx
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[22:16:40] <madnero> hi is there a point to transfer data between controllers via a service since a page refresh wipe the data?
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[22:24:14] <zomg> madnero: as opposed to transfering data by doing..?
[22:24:42] <madnero> zomg, cookie session... any persitent mean
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[22:24:55] <heartburn> madnero: either restore the session from the backend or use localstorage.
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[22:25:30] <zomg> madnero: right, so let's say you have five controllers.. do you really want to copy paste your logic to save stuff into cookies into all five of them? :)
[22:26:00] <zomg> vs. having amazingService.save(stuff)
[22:26:06] <madnero> zomg, you know it's not about what we want ;)
[22:26:46] <zomg> Well I have no idea what could possibly force you to copy paste your code into five places
[22:27:04] <zomg> Maybe a gun pointed at your head, but that seems somewhat extreme as a development methodology :p
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[22:28:56] <heartburn> something-something-extreme-programming
[22:29:12] <heartburn> but on a seriously, yes. that's pretty retarded.
[22:29:24] <heartburn> you should never want to do that.
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[22:29:34] <heartburn> and if you want to, you should feel bad about yourself.
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[22:31:38] <zomg> I certainly would like to know what reason you might have to do that since I have no idea =)
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[22:33:46] <madnero> what do u mean both mean by that?
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[22:34:52] <heartburn> we mean that shared logic should live in a service or a factory, and not be duplicated across controllers.
[22:35:08] <zomg> madnero: yeah I'm just wondering what you meant by "it's not about what we want"
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[22:35:43] <heartburn> if you want to track the app state, make a factory, like stateFactory, let it save/restore the state from the backend session or localStorage.
[22:35:57] <madnero> zomg, just that what works isn't always what we want
[22:36:01] <Ziberius> question
[22:36:09] <Ziberius> is then always executed even if the post fails?
[22:36:12] <madnero> heartburn, ok
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[22:36:56] <heartburn> Ziberius: .then will be executed on any 2** response from the backend.
[22:37:10] <zomg> madnero: yeah I just don't know why you would *want to* copypaste it, or maybe I didn't understand :P
[22:37:18] <heartburn> and probably 3**, but i'm not sure about this one
[22:37:35] <zomg> 4xx and 5xx are the only responses which are considered errors afaik
[22:37:43] <zomg> everything else is some type of success
[22:37:49] <Ziberius> oh ok thanx
[22:37:49] <zomg> or at least not an error :P
[22:37:57] <madnero> zomg, i have different variable in different controllers but sometimes i need the variable in another controller
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[22:38:13] <zomg> madnero: yeah so seems reasonable like you would use a service then since that's the easiest way to do it :)
[22:38:49] <madnero> zomg, yeah but it's not persistent
[22:39:44] <zomg> sure, so the easiest way to persist it is then to make your service persist it
[22:39:55] <heartburn> the only persistent things on the front-end are localStorage/sessionStorage/indexedDB and cookies. there's no other way to keet stuff persistent between page reloads.
[22:40:01] <zomg> the logic is centralized into one place
[22:40:08] <zomg> basic software engineering stuff really :)
[22:40:54] <rand0m> ok zomg can you help me creating an app
[22:41:12] <madnero> yeah i need to rethink my app architecture a bit i guess
[22:41:16] <madnero> no biggy
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[22:41:57] <zomg> rand0m: that depends on what you mean by "help creating an app" and/or how much you're going to pay me
[22:42:00] <zomg> lol
[22:42:01] <heartburn> or you can, again, fetch the session state from the backend. and store it in one place. like a service/factory (which is going to persist until next cmd+r), or localStorage, if you *really* want to keep it, and don't want to use the backend for that.
[22:42:26] <rand0m> I'll pay you with my blessings that you live prosperous forever :P
[22:42:27] <rand0m> hahaha
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[22:42:46] <rand0m> but seriously, I am too fucking lazy now
[22:42:51] <heartburn> how many blessings exactly are we talking about?
[22:43:06] <rand0m> two maximum, three if I am in good mood
[22:43:10] <rand0m> no more no less
[22:43:25] <heartburn> whats the current conversion rate?
[22:43:34] <rand0m> dont know
[22:43:43] <rand0m> after brexit everythings gone crazy
[22:43:44] <heartburn> how many moneys one blessing is worth?
[22:43:48] <zomg> 1 blessing equals 0.5 hail marys
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[22:46:01] <heartburn> sounds like a good deal.
[22:46:56] <rand0m> is 0.5 hailmary like a shot?
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[22:47:08] <rand0m> or a pint?
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[22:48:59] <heartburn> it's about 0.16 lord's prayers.
[22:50:29] <zomg> uggggh
[22:50:36] <zomg> I </3 angular-ui-tree
[22:50:42] <rand0m> whats that
[22:50:55] <zomg> it doesn't support track by which causes annoying jumping in the list in some circumstances
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[22:51:19] <zomg> rand0m: basically a type of ng-repeat thingy but it supports nested items, drag & drop and some other stuff
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[22:51:45] <rand0m> oic
[22:51:46] <zomg> I've had to code a super complex workaround for this particular bug in question and I constantly have to go back and fix it because it always has some corner case bug
[22:52:04] <zomg> it's a known issue in angular-ui-tree that track by doesn't work but they seem to have no intention of fixing it
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[22:52:20] <zomg> heartburn: lessee
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[22:53:39] <zomg> okay looking at the is number test, that looks good
[22:53:50] <zomg> nice use of generated tests as well
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[22:54:12] <zomg> one suggestion I would have for this is you can actually use something like quickcheck-js to generate test values within specified parameters
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[22:54:34] <zomg> which can be fairly nice for something like this where your function should accept anything which is a number
[22:55:23] <zomg> ok I see the rest of the tests follow the same pattern, yep I think they look good
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[22:56:38] <zomg> ah right, JSVerify is the other tool which can do "property based testing", similar to QuickCheck
[22:56:39] <Ziberius> is it possible to know which button invoced a scope function?
[22:56:55] <zomg> I've not used jsverify myself so can't comment which is better, it or quickcheck-js
[22:57:26] <zomg> Ziberius: sure, you could for example do ng-click="doStuff('my amazing button')"
[22:57:41] <zomg> and just change the parameter to be something else for different buttons
[22:58:07] <Ziberius> zomg: ah great
[22:58:07] <zomg> although I would recommend having the parameter make sense in terms of the action that needs to be done, and not the button ID
[22:58:08] <Ziberius> thanx
[22:58:14] <Ziberius> perfect
[22:58:21] <zomg> because I'm assuming the reason you want to differentiate the button ID is to determine which action to do :)
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[23:00:07] <Jayce381> Is it possible to create from tree of objects, ul>li with correct parent>children
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[23:07:41] <zomg> Jayce381: with angular-ui-tree yes
[23:07:51] <zomg> or even with nested ng-repeats and a template
[23:07:56] <zomg> or nested directives which render the items
[23:08:24] <Jayce381> is it possible with pure javascript, because im using damned ng 2
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[23:12:33] <heartburn> zomg: kiitos bro.
[23:13:43] <Nasp> Jayce381 damned?
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[23:18:29] <rand0m> kittens?
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[23:26:43] <heartburn> die Kaetzchen?
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[23:29:27] <madnero> heartburn, i've just tried ngStorage, it works nice and easy
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