September 21, 2016 
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September 21, 2016 [00:00:09] <simp> a pic so it's a bit easier to understand:[00:00:10] <simp> http://i.imgur.com/OI6ZTfF.png[00:00:14] <simp> http://i.imgur.com/ey5fhje.png[00:00:19] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@216.1.23.10> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:00:20] <simp> each section is a component[00:00:27] <simp> and each header (with number) is a separate component[00:00:33] <simp> each section has an ng-form[00:00:53] <simp> but the sending is handled on the parent level.[00:01:33] <simp> i want to display an error in the header and next to a field, within the section[00:02:40] <simp> previously the parent got the child ng-forms from the main form element, but with components, it is no longer attached.[00:02:47] <simp> (used to be directives)[00:03:09] <simp> hope that makes sense[00:03:56] *** heartburn <heartburn!~heartburn@95-161-6-130.broadband.spb.TiERA.org> has joined #angularjs[00:04:36] <simp> hmm... thinking about it. I could pass the errors array into the child components once the API returns.[00:06:47] *** jr3 <jr3!~jr3@c-98-194-199-12.hsd1.tx.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: jr3)[00:08:46] *** romerocesar <romerocesar!~cesar@2601:602:9300:6000:c960:8cb3:14e8:5b73> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:09:43] *** romerocesar <romerocesar!~cesar@2601:602:9300:6000:c960:8cb3:14e8:5b73> has joined #angularjs[00:10:27] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@73.81.120.121> has joined #angularjs[00:12:06] *** amdi_ <amdi_!~amdi_@2620:102:400b:8d1f:d:1b00:e5c3:82fe> has joined #angularjs[00:12:43] *** lyxus <lyxus!~lyxus@2601:647:4401:efce:5c17:3849:294:c5a4> has joined #angularjs[00:13:00] *** cyan__ <cyan__!~cyan@217.170.162.68> has joined #angularjs[00:14:41] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@73.81.120.121> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:16:48] *** cotko <cotko!~ahmed@93-103-28-46.dynamic.t-2.net> has joined #angularjs[00:17:12] *** lyxus <lyxus!~lyxus@2601:647:4401:efce:5c17:3849:294:c5a4> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:17:35] *** nadoneves <nadoneves!~Thunderbi@177.131.144.72> has quit IRC (Quit: nadoneves)[00:20:56] *** nr152522 <nr152522!~nr152522@my89-104-40-64.cust.relish.net> has joined #angularjs[00:21:51] *** amcorreia <amcorreia!~amcorreia@2804:7f5:280:31ed::1> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[00:22:12] *** vkana <vkana!8f739f35@gateway/web/freenode/ip.143.115.159.53> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:23:43] *** lyxus <lyxus!~lyxus@2601:647:4401:efce:85dc:84ee:2baf:c335> has joined #angularjs[00:25:06] *** deeb <deeb!~dee@a85-139-8-162.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #angularjs[00:27:19] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@mal59-2-88-165-162-143.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #angularjs[00:28:18] <simp> ok, that was dumb of me[00:28:59] <simp> just saved the errors to a service and once the form has been sent, the children parse the errors from there.[00:29:31] <simp> sometimes I just get stuck on something so that i don't see the obvious solution[00:29:37] *** deeb <deeb!~dee@a85-139-8-162.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[00:32:17] *** w2r5 <w2r5!~textual@172.56.39.176> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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What is this saying: (I know its watching js directory, but what is /**/* ?)[01:04:22] <nexus2911> gulp.watch('builds/js/**/*', ['js']);[01:05:04] <simp> ** is recursive folders and * is any files[01:05:39] <simp> so watch for filename * in all folders under builds/js/[01:05:50] *** eago <eago!~eago@CPEbc4dfbf3d093-CMbc4dfbf3d090.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined #angularjs[01:05:54] <nexus2911> simp: thank you[01:05:57] <simp> so builds/js/first/test.js and builds/js/second/other.js are both watched[01:07:12] *** uru is now known as uru|away[01:07:16] <nexus2911> I don't like it, makes things too darn easy![01:07:21] *** Inge- <Inge-!~inge@cm-84.211.205.193.getinternet.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[01:07:47] <nexus2911> there's that darn efficiency again![01:08:53] *** cyan__ <cyan__!~cyan@217.170.162.68> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[01:09:37] <nexus2911> and the ['js'] means only js files[01:09:56] <nexus2911> correct?[01:10:14] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has joined #angularjs[01:11:19] *** deeb <deeb!~dee@a85-139-8-162.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #angularjs[01:11:59] *** iraj <iraj!~iraj@unaffiliated/iraj> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[01:11:59] *** iraj_ <iraj_!~iraj@91.107.239.135> has joined #angularjs[01:13:15] <SaltyCatFish> js is what gulp is calling[01:13:22] <SaltyCatFish> there should be a "js" definition[01:14:59] *** eago <eago!~eago@CPEbc4dfbf3d093-CMbc4dfbf3d090.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:15:15] *** kuadrosx <kuadrosx!~kuadrosx@dynamic-186-154-27-187.dynamic.etb.net.co> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[01:16:33] *** eago <eago!~eago@CPEbc4dfbf3d093-CMbc4dfbf3d090.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined #angularjs[01:16:37] *** M1N10N <M1N10N!~M1N10N@107.191.111.46> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:16:42] <nexus2911> SaltyCatFish: yes there is[01:16:54] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@c-69-139-16-116.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[01:16:57] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@c-69-139-16-116.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:17:19] *** M1N10N <M1N10N!~M1N10N@107.191.111.46> has joined #angularjs[01:17:28] <SaltyCatFish> nexus2911: Yeah, everything in brackets will be called when any of those files change[01:18:28] *** heartburn <heartburn!~heartburn@95-161-6-130.broadband.spb.TiERA.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[01:18:31] <simp> nexus2911, if you only want js files you'd do builds/js/**/*.js[01:19:01] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@c-67-180-35-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:19:02] <nexus2911> simp: ok, thank you[01:19:05] <nexus2911> so this: http://pastebin.com/WkcTD2Nk[01:19:36] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@c-67-180-35-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[01:19:39] <nexus2911> that function is being called by ['js'] the jshint is what causes JS errors to be displayed on our web page?[01:21:27] *** iraj_ <iraj_!~iraj@91.107.239.135> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[01:21:51] *** lyxus <lyxus!~lyxus@2601:647:4401:efce:85dc:84ee:2baf:c335> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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of changing the page because older browsers don't support changing the path without reloading the page.[05:16:20] <DannyFritz> you can turn on history mode or whatever to not use fragments on your site[05:16:41] *** davlefou_ <davlefou_!~davlefou@41.225.99.218> has quit IRC (Quit: Au Revoir)[05:16:53] <nishu-tryinghard> i can use $locationProvider.html5Mode(true);[05:17:00] <nishu-tryinghard> to make use of history api[05:17:07] <DannyFritz> 👍[05:17:30] <DannyFritz> The use-case for fragments is ie8 http://caniuse.com/#feat=history[05:17:40] *** moloch <moloch!~moloch@cpe-98-150-237-205.hawaii.res.rr.com> has joined #angularjs[05:19:00] *** davlefou <davlefou!~davlefou@unaffiliated/davlefou> has joined #angularjs[05:22:40] *** snaphuman <snaphuman!~snaphuman@unaffiliated/snaphuman> has joined #angularjs[05:23:46] *** siba <siba!~textual@60-242-28-48.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[05:27:00] *** fbenoit 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I know IE8 doesn't work very well with angular, and IE9 has some quirks[08:27:42] <ir7466> ok thats interesting then[08:27:51] <ir7466> because other pages on the site work fine[08:27:57] <ir7466> it's just the page with angular thats the issue[08:28:04] <ir7466> what year were IE8/9 released?[08:28:05] *** pdillinger <pdillinger!~pdillinge@77-52-194-150.static.umc.net.ua> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[08:28:13] <Elarcis> ir7466: 1792[08:28:18] <Elarcis> ir7466: circa[08:28:35] <ir7466> 2009/2011 according to wiki[08:28:37] <ir7466> hmm[08:28:45] <Elarcis> I wasn't far off[08:28:56] <ir7466> are there any workarounds?[08:29:21] *** ansu <ansu!~ansu@unaffiliated/ansu> has joined #angularjs[08:29:38] <ngWalrus> mroing[08:29:40] <uru> Elarcis: g'morning[08:29:53] <GreenJello> ir7466, you can get an emulator for older IE versions and test it yourself[08:29:59] <ngWalrus> uru are you a bot[08:30:33] <Elarcis> ir7466: other than 'use another browser', you'll most likely have to change bits of your app and test it in a XP/Windows 8 VM[08:30:45] <Elarcis> ir7466: lucky for you Microsoft provides such VMs for free[08:30:50] <ir7466> i think use another browser is the path of least resistance[08:30:52] <Elarcis> *XP/IE8[08:30:54] <uru> ngWalrus: I'm required by law to not disclose that information[08:31:03] <ngWalrus> damn[08:31:06] <ngWalrus> :DD[08:31:07] <ir7466> given its a work restricted pc, are there any workarounds for installing another browser[08:31:11] <uru> :p[08:31:12] <ir7466> like a portable app or something?[08:31:21] *** soee <soee!~soee@user-164-127-151-70.play-internet.pl> has joined #angularjs[08:31:31] <Elarcis> ir7466: there should be a portable version of chrome or firefox[08:31:34] <uru> ir7466: http://portableapps.com/[08:31:53] <ir7466> do you think they would bypass the work restrictions?[08:32:20] <GreenJello> as long as they don't block downloading and usb drives[08:32:31] <Elarcis> ir7466: most likely, yes[08:32:42] <Elarcis> ir7466: well if the company's using a proxy, that might be another issue[08:32:55] *** evilaliv3 <evilaliv3!~evilaliv3@93-41-19-219.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[08:32:57] <ir7466> could a portable app be downloaded to the PC and run?[08:33:02] <ir7466> or does it have to go to a usb?[08:33:59] <GreenJello> it depends on how restrictive the system is[08:34:05] <Elarcis> ir7466: portable doesn't enforce the medium[08:34:28] <ir7466> i presume the portable app is just an exe which you can run?[08:34:40] <ir7466> without having to install anything[08:35:06] <GreenJello> yeah, I've used portable firefox before when I was in school[08:35:24] <Elarcis> GreenJello: found the hacker in highschool libraries[08:35:44] <Elarcis> 'Don't do funny stuff with the computers!'[08:35:50] *** Garfield-fr <Garfield-fr!~Garfield-@unaffiliated/garfield-fr> has joined #angularjs[08:36:04] <GreenJello> I did regularly boot the computers into linux, so...[08:36:22] *** evilaliv3 <evilaliv3!~evilaliv3@93-41-19-219.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has joined #angularjs[08:37:04] <ir7466> http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable[08:37:27] *** Debnet <Debnet!~Marc@smtp2.sa-cim.fr> has joined #angularjs[08:37:35] <ir7466> is sourceforge safe to download from? i remember they used to be legit... but i seem to recall some scandal about them packaging adware or something?[08:38:41] <Elarcis> ir7466: I don't trust them, but if it's an installer you get, it's definitely not portable :D[08:38:55] *** icebox <icebox!5e5fe874@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.95.232.116> has joined #angularjs[08:38:58] *** Debnet <Debnet!~Marc@smtp2.sa-cim.fr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:39:06] *** Debnet <Debnet!~Marc@smtp2.sa-cim.fr> has joined #angularjs[08:41:12] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has joined #angularjs[08:41:31] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[08:43:23] *** antiPoP <antiPoP!~antiPoP@unaffiliated/antipop> has joined #angularjs[08:44:27] *** nr152522 <nr152522!~nr152522@my89-104-40-64.cust.relish.net> has joined #angularjs[08:45:35] <icebox> the usual links...[08:45:54] <icebox> Modernization of Reactivity: https://davidwalsh.name/modernization-reactivity[08:46:10] <icebox> Does ES6 Mean The End Of Underscore / Lodash? https://derickbailey.com/2016/09/12/does-es6-mean-the-end-of-underscore-lodash/[08:46:20] *** milkman_ <milkman_!~milkman@80.146.168.122> has joined #angularjs[08:46:46] *** rickmak_ <rickmak_!~rickmak@n219076246068.netvigator.com> has quit IRC (Quit: rickmak_)[08:49:50] <Elarcis> icebox: judging by the title of the second link, the answer is 'no'[08:49:51] <Elarcis> :D[08:50:47] <icebox> Elarcis: :P[08:51:21] <Elarcis> 'if your paper's title is a question, the answer's probably no.'[08:53:04] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #angularjs[08:54:12] <ir7466> he's on IE 11[08:54:13] <Elarcis> icebox: I, for one, never used lodash - mostly because I never bothered to try it in the first case x)[08:54:14] <ir7466> 2013 edition[08:54:21] <ir7466> does that provide any clues[08:54:31] *** bytespirit <bytespirit!~bytespiri@5.79.74.141> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[08:54:35] <icebox> ir7466: about what?[08:55:01] <ir7466> ah you joined a few minute after i asked the question :P[08:55:21] <ir7466> basically, a guy has called and said the page he's accessing won't load[08:55:24] <ir7466> it's the only page with angular[08:55:34] <icebox> nice[08:55:43] <icebox> I read the logs :)[08:55:45] <ir7466> and when he looks at F12 dev options / debugger mode in IE, instead of seeing page source he's seeing the angular.js file - all 30k lines of it[08:56:18] <ir7466> so the prevailing theory above was it was maybe IE8, and the angular bugs were causing the page load dramas[08:56:30] <ir7466> but IE11 is what he's on, so i'm not too sure why that would be a problem[08:57:39] *** Elisha <Elisha!~elisha@mail.triglif.si> has joined #angularjs[08:57:47] <Elarcis> ir7466: there's a possibility, that the script is crashing on a console.log or equiv.[08:57:58] *** enlightenmental <enlightenmental!~enlighten@c-73-5-140-85.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:57:59] <ir7466> how can I confirm?[08:58:14] <Elarcis> ir7466: in IE, console is only defined when the devtools are open, so console.log is throwing an error[08:58:23] *** enlightenmental <enlightenmental!~enlighten@c-73-5-140-85.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[08:58:24] <Elarcis> ir7466: have him reload the page while having the devtools open[08:58:49] <ir7466> i asked him to do that, he's saying nothing even appears in the Network bar[08:59:01] <ir7466> which i find very odd[08:59:06] <Elarcis> ir7466: network bar?[08:59:12] <ir7466> of dev tools[08:59:16] <ir7466> network tab[08:59:19] *** thomaspaulb <thomaspaulb!~Tom@D4B2706A.static.ziggozakelijk.nl> has joined #angularjs[08:59:27] <ngWalrus> and the site works on other browsers?[08:59:39] <Elarcis> ir7466: that's normal, the network tab only displays stuff when it's recording[08:59:53] *** fixl <fixl!~fixl@46.166.138.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:59:53] *** Doginal_ <Doginal_!~agriggs@unaffiliated/doginal> has joined #angularjs[08:59:53] <ir7466> yes, works fine for IE/Chrome/FF/Edge when i try it[09:00:01] <ir7466> it's only him that's noticed this[09:00:27] <ir7466> i dont think the IT admin has disabled javascript, because other pages have jquery and its fine[09:00:34] <ir7466> its just this one page with angular[09:00:41] *** Doginal <Doginal!~agriggs@unaffiliated/doginal> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:00:41] *** Doginal_ is now known as Doginal[09:00:52] *** bytespirit <bytespirit!~bytespiri@5.79.74.141> has joined #angularjs[09:01:01] *** milkman_ <milkman_!~milkman@80.146.168.122> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[09:01:06] *** Debnet`Work <Debnet`Work!~Marc@48.86.2.93.rev.sfr.net> has joined #angularjs[09:01:08] <icebox> ir7466: the point is not angular per se... the point is there is a js error on that page[09:01:17] *** fixl <fixl!~fixl@46.166.188.233> has joined #angularjs[09:01:26] <ir7466> if that was the case shouldn't every console see something?[09:01:31] <icebox> ir7466: no[09:01:43] *** Elisha <Elisha!~elisha@mail.triglif.si> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:02:12] <icebox> ir7466: in IE if the debug console is not opened, many times in the console there is not any message[09:02:37] <ir7466> what other troubleshooting steps do i have available to me, given i can only talk to this guy over the phone[09:02:37] <icebox> ir7466: if you open it *after" the app doesn't work[09:02:47] <icebox> ir7466: good luck :)[09:02:48] *** milkman_ <milkman_!~milkman@80.146.168.122> has joined #angularjs[09:02:54] <ir7466> @icebox: i've asked him to leave dev tools open the whole time[09:02:58] *** AndrewIsh <AndrewIsh!~andrew@mrboom.plus.com> has joined #angularjs[09:03:13] <icebox> ir7466: it is useles to talk with a user... they lie always[09:03:34] *** sbellina <sbellina!~sbellina@c-75-65-176-38.hsd1.ms.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:03:39] <ir7466> ah, this is a good guy - he's not going to purposely mislead me[09:03:42] <icebox> ir7466: you need to reproduce the issue on dev env :)[09:03:46] <ir7466> i know[09:03:54] <ir7466> but in order to do that i really need some clues from him[09:04:24] *** Debnet <Debnet!~Marc@smtp2.sa-cim.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[09:04:37] <icebox> ir7466: yes... but not tech info.. you need to ask, as user, which steps (clicks, typings, and so on) he is doing[09:04:51] <icebox> ir7466: to reproduce it on your side[09:04:58] <ir7466> this is happening on page load[09:05:13] <ir7466> type url, enter - doesn't load[09:05:20] <ir7466> sees the site header, but nothing else[09:05:38] *** akkonrad <akkonrad!~akkonrad3@gae109.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #angularjs[09:05:50] <ir7466> so fortunately it's not a unique sequence of events like clicking the third button after typing 10 characters or anything crazy like that[09:07:13] <icebox> ir7466: (generally speaking, see trackjs) :)[09:07:29] *** milkman_ <milkman_!~milkman@80.146.168.122> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:07:51] <icebox> ir7466: an event so catastrophic should be "easy" to catch it[09:07:55] <ir7466> if I open the doc in IE8 mode, through the emulator[09:07:59] <ir7466> it doesn't load[09:08:09] <ir7466> but if he's using IE11 i don't think that really proves anything[09:08:29] <icebox> ir7466: you know... firstly you need to have the same user env[09:08:43] <icebox> ir7466: browser, SO and so on[09:09:05] *** tomphp <tomphp!~tomphp@host86-170-198-213.range86-170.btcentralplus.com> has joined #angularjs[09:09:11] *** ycon_ <ycon_!~ycon_@121.209.3.211> has joined #angularjs[09:09:16] <ir7466> is there a setting in IE which forces the browser to load under a different document mode, if you are NOT in dev tools?[09:09:27] <ir7466> i'm wondering if maybe it's set to IE8 even though he's using IE11[09:09:34] *** Pyrrhus666 <Pyrrhus666!~Pyrrhus66@095-097-155-024.static.chello.nl> has joined #angularjs[09:09:34] <ir7466> or is that strictly a dev tools option[09:09:39] <icebox> ir7466: yes[09:09:58] *** tarnus <tarnus!~tarnus@108-202-169-121.lightspeed.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:10:01] <icebox> ir7466: there is browser simulation[09:10:15] <ir7466> i know there is in dev tools. but is it a general setting?[09:10:28] <icebox> ir7466: I don't remember[09:11:43] <icebox> ir7466: generally speaking, to understand if there is a problem with user env or with the browser, the user should try, for instance with another browser... that is the first step[09:12:23] <icebox> ir7466: if with another browser the app works, the problem is the browser (or the app is not cross browser compatible) :)[09:13:13] <icebox> ir7466: the second step is retrieving browser info and using locally the same browser to reproduce the issue[09:13:36] <ir7466> the issue is he's on a work site PC which is very restricted, i can't get him to try another browser[09:13:37] *** Pyrrhus6661 <Pyrrhus6661!~Pyrrhus66@095-097-155-024.static.chello.nl> has joined #angularjs[09:13:49] <ir7466> i am hoping the portable firefox browser might bypass that restriction[09:14:03] *** mangolisk_ <mangolisk_!~mangolisk@S0106848dc7ebaa06.vc.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:14:10] *** Pyrrhus666 <Pyrrhus666!~Pyrrhus66@095-097-155-024.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:14:16] <icebox> ir7466: if the app works locally with the offending browers, the problem is the specific profile of that user: this is the third step.[09:14:26] <ir7466> but he said he's using IE11, i'm also using IE11 - so how do I replicate his 2013 edition with my 2015 edition?[09:14:43] <icebox> ir7466: you need the *same* browser[09:14:57] <icebox> ir7466: virtual machine at the rescue[09:15:13] <icebox> ir7466: I know, it is very time consuming[09:15:46] <ir7466> i feel there must be a simpler way, and i'm not saying that to be dismissive[09:15:55] <ir7466> i just mean there must be a logical reason why this angular script is not loading[09:16:08] <ir7466> and it might be easier to work forwards from a theory, than backwards from his env[09:16:09] <Pyrrhus6661> browserstack has some different versions for IE11, but not much[09:16:18] <icebox> ir7466: again... you don't know what is the issue :)[09:17:03] <icebox> ir7466: here with IE11... angular works ok :)[09:17:44] <icebox> ir7466: 11.0.9600.18125[09:17:57] <icebox> ir7466: it is 2013 version[09:17:59] <ir7466> actually[09:18:05] <ir7466> maybe thats another thing to test[09:18:12] <ir7466> have him try another site that uses angular[09:18:30] <ir7466> that way it will narrow down if its a general "angular wont load" problem or if it's a script error specific to my app[09:19:43] *** ome <ome!uid36537@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-munklyvlhmhalcre> has joined #angularjs[09:20:39] *** rickmak_ <rickmak_!~rickmak@203186221114.ctinets.com> has joined #angularjs[09:21:28] <Elarcis> ir7466: do they have teamviewer? maybe you can do remote debugging x)[09:21:58] <ir7466> they can't install any programs[09:22:06] <da_wunder> for that join.me is awesome[09:22:11] <da_wunder> or just google hangouts[09:22:12] <ir7466> thats why i want to try the portable firefox[09:22:28] <Elarcis> ir7466: there's a quicksupport version that doesn't install anything[09:22:40] <ir7466> oh i didnt know that[09:22:45] <Elarcis> ir7466: provided that the proxy allows it, it's perfect for quick troubleshooting[09:22:47] <ir7466> that will be the next option then[09:22:56] <ir7466> ah thanks for that tip[09:23:00] <ir7466> i'll try that one tomorrow then[09:23:09] <ir7466> thanks for your help everyone[09:23:11] *** Preuk_away is now known as Preuk[09:23:42] <Elarcis> no problem![09:23:53] *** pdillinger <pdillinger!~pdillinge@77-52-194-150.static.umc.net.ua> has joined #angularjs[09:24:25] *** erol_ <erol_!~erol@cam44-h01-89-91-144-193.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[09:24:51] <Elarcis> hi icebox, by the way[09:25:08] <icebox> Elarcis: hey[09:25:41] <Preuk> hello[09:25:52] <Elarcis> vscode is pulling me some weird stuff. if I do import { MyClass } from 'myModule', I have no doc for MyClass (but I do for its properties, getter/setters, etc.), but if I do import * as myModule from 'myModule', I do have jsdoc for MyClass[09:26:10] <Elarcis> *myModule.MyClass[09:26:43] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[09:26:44] <GreenJello> Elarcis, so file an issue[09:26:56] <Elarcis> GreenJello: gonna, just dunno how to phrase it[09:28:45] *** pdillinger <pdillinger!~pdillinge@77-52-194-150.static.umc.net.ua> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:30:18] *** tomphp <tomphp!~tomphp@host86-170-198-213.range86-170.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[09:30:42] *** angularjsNewbie <angularjsNewbie!4eacc2cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.172.194.204> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:32:13] *** bsrd <bsrd!~ukk@0133902281.0.fullrate.ninja> has joined #angularjs[09:32:38] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #angularjs[09:33:15] *** amundj <amundj!~textual@185.13.92.20> has joined #angularjs[09:35:31] <Elarcis> GreenJello: done https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/12360[09:36:53] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:37:07] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has joined #angularjs[09:37:20] *** milkman_ <milkman_!~milkman@80.146.168.122> has joined #angularjs[09:37:46] <icebox> sigh... 2497 issues[09:38:01] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:38:07] <icebox> 9137 closed[09:38:24] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has joined #angularjs[09:38:34] <GreenJello> yeah... that's quite a lot[09:38:51] <Pyrrhus6661> icebox: with issues like ´It fucked up´ the total tends to rise quickly ;)[09:39:01] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:39:15] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has joined #angularjs[09:39:42] <GreenJello> wow, atom has a lot of issues too[09:39:48] <icebox> Pyrrhus6661: agreed... indeed the policy should be more restricted... if a no valid issue is opened then it is closed[09:40:05] <icebox> GreenJello: yep[09:40:13] *** bakirelived <bakirelived!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has joined #angularjs[09:40:21] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:40:23] <GreenJello> vim has 256 though :-p[09:40:38] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has joined #angularjs[09:40:48] <icebox> my point was not about a particular repo, it was about issue management... with many issues, there is too much noise[09:40:58] *** ankit_ <ankit_!2d7402fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.45.116.2.250> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[09:41:01] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:41:03] *** vitaly__ <vitaly__!~vitaly@ip-58-28-215-134.wxnz.net> has joined #angularjs[09:41:03] *** cyan__ <cyan__!~cyan@217.170.162.68> has joined #angularjs[09:41:05] <GreenJello> yeah, most of them are probably duplicates[09:41:23] <ngWalrus> I've noticed with js repos especially there's a lot of "how do you do X" issues[09:41:24] <GreenJello> some project devote more time to triage than others[09:41:33] <Pyrrhus6661> icebox: yup. although seeing as almost 4 times as much are closed, they´re not doing _too_ bad ;)[09:42:09] <icebox> for me... the perfect repo in management issue is eslint: that team is great, precise and disciplined[09:42:24] <icebox> Pyrrhus6661: no, indeed[09:43:03] *** vitaly_ <vitaly_!~vitaly@ip-58-28-215-134.wxnz.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:43:03] *** Admin__ <Admin__!~Admin@2001:8a0:e4f2:4501:e5ac:ea93:695b:8207> has joined #angularjs[09:43:07] *** Pyrrhus6661 is now known as Pyrrhus666[09:43:16] <icebox> and lately http://eslint.org/blog/2016/09/changes-to-issues-and-pr-policies[09:43:25] <ngWalrus> Pyrrhus6661 was a better nick imo[09:43:37] *** mastokley <mastokley!~mastokley@71.35.179.178> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[09:43:53] *** lnaia <lnaia!~lnaia@95.85.61.115> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:43:54] *** monbro <monbro!~monbro@x4e33f9d3.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #angularjs[09:44:07] *** Doginal <Doginal!~agriggs@unaffiliated/doginal> has quit IRC (Quit: Doginal)[09:44:27] <Pyrrhus666> ngWalrus: it felt like being a whole other person. didn´t like it ;)[09:44:28] *** lnaia <lnaia!~lnaia@luisnaia.org> has joined #angularjs[09:44:41] *** evilaliv3 <evilaliv3!~evilaliv3@93-41-19-219.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:46:28] <Pyrrhus666> (srsly though, freenode has the logo of my vpn provider on its homepage, but I can never log in when it´s active, SASL or no SASL)[09:47:56] *** tristanp <tristanp!~tristanp@c-73-19-36-48.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[09:48:05] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: btw, seeing as you too use vcode, does debugging work for you ? I keep having source-map issues with it.[09:49:31] *** Debnet`Laptop <Debnet`Laptop!~Marc@smtp2.sa-cim.fr> has joined #angularjs[09:50:48] *** erol_ <erol_!~erol@2a01:e35:2438:3ce0:82fa:5bff:fe15:214> has joined #angularjs[09:50:52] *** ki__ <ki__!~kwe@130.255.73.84> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:51:02] *** bengillies <bengillies!~bengillie@bengillies.net> has joined #angularjs[09:52:16] *** Debnet`Work <Debnet`Work!~Marc@48.86.2.93.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:52:22] *** ycon_ <ycon_!~ycon_@121.209.3.211> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:52:24] <ngWalrus> lol vscode[09:52:30] *** F1LT3R <F1LT3R!~F1LT3R@50.234.75.70> has joined #angularjs[09:53:19] <Pyrrhus666> ngWalrus: grumpy today ? ;P[09:53:37] *** tristanp <tristanp!~tristanp@c-73-19-36-48.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[09:54:07] <ngWalrus> hangover[09:54:30] <ngWalrus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkMNOlYcpHg[09:54:32] <ngWalrus> basically this[09:54:33] *** ki__ <ki__!~kwe@130.255.73.84> has joined #angularjs[09:54:37] *** ycon_ <ycon_!~ycon_@CPE-121-209-3-211.bqgp1.sa.bigpond.net.au> has joined #angularjs[09:55:27] *** ycon_ <ycon_!~ycon_@CPE-121-209-3-211.bqgp1.sa.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:55:33] *** NZSmartie <NZSmartie!~NZSmartie@103.247.154.222> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[09:55:53] <Pyrrhus666> ouch... good luck getting through the day then...[09:56:07] *** bengillies <bengillies!~bengillie@bengillies.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[09:56:55] *** donguston <donguston!~AdamPC@cpc12-sprt2-2-0-cust478.17-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:57:03] *** F1LT3R <F1LT3R!~F1LT3R@50.234.75.70> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:57:07] <ngWalrus> I need a miracle cure[09:58:23] *** arnas <arnas!~arnas@88-119-97-225.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:59:09] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:59:18] <Pyrrhus666> when I was younger, more alcohol worked like a charm. but it´s living on borrowed time...[09:59:40] <ngWalrus> but I'm still young[09:59:48] <ngWalrus> fucking grandpas can't drink worth shit[10:00:12] <ngWalrus> 6 more hours :|[10:00:15] <ngWalrus> lunch time I guess[10:00:23] *** NZSmartie <NZSmartie!~NZSmartie@103.247.154.222> has joined #angularjs[10:00:23] <Pyrrhus666> oh I can drink fine, it´s the day after that kills me :P[10:00:50] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #angularjs[10:01:12] *** joshontheweb <joshontheweb!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has joined #angularjs[10:02:21] <Preuk> Pyrrhus666: one option is not to get sober[10:02:55] *** Bnaya <Bnaya!~Bnaya@unaffiliated/bnaya> has joined #angularjs[10:03:11] <Pyrrhus666> yeah, that worked fine when I was a student. postpone it with more drinking until such time that you can sleep it off.[10:09:13] *** YoussF <YoussF!~Mutter@188.189.67.69> has joined #angularjs[10:10:52] *** monbro <monbro!~monbro@x4e33f9d3.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: monbro)[10:11:51] *** donguston <donguston!~AdamPC@cpc12-sprt2-2-0-cust478.17-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #angularjs[10:12:02] *** monbro <monbro!~monbro@x4e33f9d3.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #angularjs[10:12:47] *** marr <marr!~ccc@xdsl-5198.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl> has joined #angularjs[10:13:29] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:14:01] *** YoussF <YoussF!~Mutter@188.189.67.69> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:14:45] *** antiPoP <antiPoP!~antiPoP@unaffiliated/antipop> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[10:15:05] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has joined #angularjs[10:15:10] *** tomphp <tomphp!~tomphp@84-45-154-103.static.enta.net> has joined #angularjs[10:16:17] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #angularjs[10:17:00] *** antiPoP <antiPoP!~antiPoP@unaffiliated/antipop> has joined #angularjs[10:17:59] *** burzum <burzum!~burzum@p4FDF8631.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #angularjs[10:19:07] *** jae <jae!~jae@unaffiliated/jae> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:20:42] *** pdillinger <pdillinger!~pdillinge@77-52-194-150.static.umc.net.ua> has joined #angularjs[10:21:02] *** cotko <cotko!~ahmed@89-212-138-82.static.t-2.net> has joined #angularjs[10:21:20] *** YoussF <YoussF!~Mutter@188.189.67.69> has joined #angularjs[10:23:21] <Elarcis> 'don't hesitate to ask questions'[10:23:31] *** mrded <mrded!~mrded@84.207.252.242> has joined #angularjs[10:23:32] <Elarcis> the next day: 'ask yourself as few question as possible[10:24:00] <Pyrrhus666> sounds like orkplace directives ?[10:24:23] <ngWalrus> orkz?[10:24:41] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: we're doing a big and tricky thing, and I'm finding it more and more absurdly overengineered[10:24:45] <ngWalrus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxcq4I0kAo[10:25:16] *** YoussF <YoussF!~Mutter@188.189.67.69> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:25:27] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: can't right now[10:25:41] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: is this 'the expert'?[10:25:42] *** thomaspaulb <thomaspaulb!~Tom@D4B2706A.static.ziggozakelijk.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:25:47] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: so business as usual in techland ?[10:26:11] <Pyrrhus666> it´s da ork song :)[10:26:15] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: kind of, except I'm the only onsite dev and the tech expert is thinking way too hard for me[10:26:18] *** Industrial <Industrial!~tom@ip-213-127-153-19.ip.prioritytelecom.net> has joined #angularjs[10:26:28] *** Roeefl <Roeefl!Roeefl@37.142.202.220> has joined #angularjs[10:26:51] <Industrial> Hi.[10:27:03] <Industrial> I want to start to try angular2[10:27:07] *** iraj_ <iraj_!~iraj@91.107.181.129> has joined #angularjs[10:27:14] <Industrial> But I see it uses a complete package.json and project structure[10:27:30] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: meaning he´s taking the responsibility as well,right ? right ?[10:27:35] <Industrial> So it is not meant to work within existing Node.js projects inside a client/ directory?[10:28:56] <Elarcis> Industrial: it could, but mind that angular2 is a front-end framework, not just a small widget lib[10:29:02] *** tomphp <tomphp!~tomphp@84-45-154-103.static.enta.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…)[10:44:52] <star_prone> Hi all[10:45:09] <ngWalrus> hey there[10:45:41] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:45:56] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has joined #angularjs[10:48:04] <star_prone> question: I'm reading the documentation for $q (https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/service/$q) and wanted to try the code snippets I found there. the only two ways I know how to do it are: 1. using an online service like jsfiddle; 2. use an http server, write the script, include angularjs and run it in a browser; is there any other way, like for example writing the script and running it from the command line?[10:48:09] *** punknroll <punknroll!~Thunderbi@p83-219-165-60.snwdip.snw.at> has joined #angularjs[10:48:16] <star_prone> I'm using macos and linux[10:49:38] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:49:41] *** ellztop <ellztop!~ellztop@169.255.79.4> has joined #angularjs[10:49:45] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:50:11] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has joined #angularjs[10:50:14] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has joined #angularjs[10:50:35] <star_prone> did anyone answered smth? disconnected by mistake :([10:50:50] <Preuk> star_prone: nothing happened inbetween :)[10:51:03] <star_prone> thanks[10:51:05] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:51:24] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has joined #angularjs[10:51:40] <Pyrrhus666> star_prone: fiddling with snippets is easiest in plunkr, imho. it takes some getting used to but works fine.[10:51:46] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:51:57] *** sumit <sumit!~sumit@182.156.77.142> has joined #angularjs[10:52:24] <Pyrrhus666> I guess it´s either that, or install it locally with a starter and run it via npm (also pretty easy)[10:53:03] <sumit> Upgrading from 1.2.16 to version 1.3.0 or greater throws Argument 'LoadConfig' is not a function, got undefined[10:53:41] *** rickmak_ <rickmak_!~rickmak@203186221114.ctinets.com> has quit IRC (Quit: rickmak_)[10:53:55] <Pyrrhus666> sumit: have you checked https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/migration[10:54:35] <icebox> sumit: because you don't register the components (controllers, directives, etc.) and use directly the function (not recomended)... function foo()... vs. .controller("foo", foo)...[10:55:02] <icebox> sumit: just a guess... without any snippet :)[10:55:21] *** davi-lima <davi-lima!~Davi@191.250.192.76> has joined #angularjs[10:56:21] *** rickmak <rickmak!~rickmak@203186221114.ctinets.com> has joined #angularjs[10:56:28] *** toin0u|away is now known as toin0u[10:56:48] *** toin0u is now known as toin0u|away[10:57:23] *** toin0u|away is now known as toin0u[10:57:28] *** toin0u is now known as toin0u|away[10:57:32] *** h2baik <h2baik!~h2baik@90.63.244.57> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[10:57:43] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: +1 for you ^ :)[10:58:28] *** toin0u|away is now known as toin0u[10:58:29] *** moloch <moloch!~moloch@cpe-98-150-237-205.hawaii.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[10:58:44] <Pyrrhus666> icebox: having done 1.1->1.2->1.3->1.4->1.5 on my app I´ve used that. a lot ;)[11:01:03] *** ellztop <ellztop!~ellztop@169.255.79.4> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[11:01:28] <sumit> icebox: I moved all of my controlles/ directives, etc to the pattern suggested --- angular.module('myApp', []).controller('MyController'[11:01:36] *** angrybacon <angrybacon!~angrybaco@178.16.163.28> has joined #angularjs[11:02:50] *** Admin__ <Admin__!~Admin@2001:8a0:e4f2:4501:e5ac:ea93:695b:8207> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:03:55] <sumit> Pyrrhus666: Yes to a certain extent.[11:04:27] *** jae <jae!~jae@unaffiliated/jae> has joined #angularjs[11:05:18] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #angularjs[11:05:43] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@106.174.18.212.rev.vodafone.pt> has joined #angularjs[11:07:29] *** pwnd_nsfw <pwnd_nsfw!~pwnd_@cpe-2606-A000-FB05-3A00-0-0-0-1.dyn6.twc.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:07:53] *** pwnd_nsfw <pwnd_nsfw!~pwnd_@cpe-2606-A000-FB05-3A00-0-0-0-1.dyn6.twc.com> has joined #angularjs[11:08:28] *** msilva__ <msilva__!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has joined #angularjs[11:08:33] *** bakirelived <bakirelived!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[11:10:28] *** donguston <donguston!~AdamPC@cpc12-sprt2-2-0-cust478.17-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[11:10:32] <akkonrad> in angular2 I have issues with including different modules, eg. jkuri/ng2-uploader - I've installed it via npm install, then I've included that in my app.module.ts but I get those errors all the time[11:10:32] <akkonrad> http://storage3.static.itmages.com/i/16/0921/h_1474449056_2125640_286e3a58d7.png[11:10:38] *** tarnus <tarnus!~tarnus@108-202-169-121.lightspeed.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net> has joined #angularjs[11:10:44] *** toin0u <toin0u!~toin0u@185.14.186.176> has quit IRC ()[11:10:47] <akkonrad> 404 - ng2-uploader not found[11:10:51] *** toin0u <toin0u!~toin0u@185.14.186.176> has joined #angularjs[11:10:51] *** toin0u <toin0u!~toin0u@185.14.186.176> has quit IRC (Changing host)[11:10:51] *** toin0u <toin0u!~toin0u@unaffiliated/toin0u> has joined #angularjs[11:10:57] <akkonrad> how should I inculde it corectly?[11:11:33] *** master_op <master_op!29e02d02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.224.45.2> has joined #angularjs[11:11:42] <star_prone> Pyrrhus666: "install it locally with a starter and run it via npm" don't really get it :( what should I search for?[11:11:44] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@106.174.18.212.rev.vodafone.pt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:12:13] <Pyrrhus666> star_prone: read this https://github.com/preboot/angular2-webpack[11:12:21] <star_prone> thanks[11:12:58] <Pyrrhus666> star_prone: the only prerequisites you should have to install are node an npm, both are easy.[11:13:09] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence.cluster-d.websense.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:13:17] <star_prone> thank you[11:13:18] <Pyrrhus666> then just follow directions, and you´ll have something up and running you can play with[11:13:28] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence.cluster-d.websense.net> has joined #angularjs[11:14:10] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:14:17] <master_op> Hi, I have a question regarding angular $resource service[11:14:44] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has joined #angularjs[11:15:10] <master_op> When i request the first time my resource from the server, i bind the response to a variable in my scope[11:15:12] *** tarnus <tarnus!~tarnus@108-202-169-121.lightspeed.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:16:04] *** sterns <sterns!~matt@199.244.109.215> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[11:16:11] <master_op> when i try to make some other requests to the server, and the server respond with { response: true} for example[11:16:29] <master_op> i loose my object (and the binding by the way)[11:17:08] <master_op> is there any way to prevent angular from binding automatically any $resource response to my scope variable ?[11:17:18] <Elarcis> the system I have to implement is so overly complicated, it makes the error checker crash and tell me that my file is fine, while the compiler is just on its knees[11:18:14] <star_prone> thank you Pyrrhus666[11:18:38] <Elarcis> master_op: the only scope assignation that is made is the one you're doing via the use of '=', I fear I'm not following you[11:18:43] *** Shilon <Shilon!~Shilon@a79-168-104-17.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #angularjs[11:18:43] *** bengillies <bengillies!~bengillie@bengillies.net> has joined #angularjs[11:18:50] <Pyrrhus666> star_prone: just remembered : if you´re an absolute beginner, beginning with the quickstart might be better[11:19:04] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[11:19:11] <Pyrrhus666> star_prone: it´s almost the same installation procedure, just another git repo : https://github.com/angular/quickstart/blob/master/README.md[11:19:15] *** lyxus <lyxus!~lyxus@2601:647:4401:efce:d583:10e5:fd10:77bb> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[11:19:25] <star_prone> quickstart being the tutorial on angularjs official site, right?[11:19:46] <Elarcis> master_op: anyway, I feel you want to store your result inside /an object inside/ the scope, rather than just inside the scope[11:19:47] <Pyrrhus666> yes, but you can also run it locally as outline in the readme[11:20:06] <star_prone> ok[11:20:08] <star_prone> thank you[11:20:08] <Elarcis> master_op: so scope.resourceResults is always the same object[11:20:22] <Elarcis> master_op: but scope.resourceResults.yourResult can change[11:20:22] *** lyxus <lyxus!~lyxus@2601:647:4401:efce:d583:10e5:fd10:77bb> has joined #angularjs[11:20:34] *** lyxus <lyxus!~lyxus@2601:647:4401:efce:d583:10e5:fd10:77bb> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:20:59] <master_op> Elarcis: thanks for your response, but it's a little bit different[11:21:17] <Elarcis> master_op: we'll need to see your code, then[11:21:26] <Pyrrhus666> star_prone: after that, you can go on to the ToH tutorial : https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/tutorial/ which builds on the quickstart[11:21:43] <Pyrrhus666> (or just experiment yourself, of course)[11:22:00] *** nr152522 <nr152522!~nr152522@my89-104-40-64.cust.relish.net> has quit IRC (Quit: It's nap time...)[11:22:02] <star_prone> thank you![11:22:21] <master_op> Elarcis: lets assume i have user in the server, and i do User.get() and when success i do $scope.user = resultFromServer;[11:22:34] <icebox> master_op: that is breaking the reference[11:22:55] <icebox> master_op: Two way data binding pitfalls http://plnkr.co/edit/7anGLMoJZgMkJFX9d9IA?p=preview[11:23:16] *** rickmak <rickmak!~rickmak@203186221114.ctinets.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[11:23:52] *** naveenvalecha <naveenvalecha!~naveenval@unaffiliated/naveenvalecha> has joined #angularjs[11:24:01] <master_op> icebox: i didn't catch you idea ![11:24:12] *** iraj <iraj!~iraj@unaffiliated/iraj> has joined #angularjs[11:24:17] *** rickmak <rickmak!~rickmak@203186221114.ctinets.com> has joined #angularjs[11:24:24] <icebox> master_op: it is not my idea... it is how angular works :)[11:24:29] *** iraj_ <iraj_!~iraj@91.107.181.129> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[11:24:31] <icebox> master_op: I try to explain it[11:24:54] <master_op> icebox: yes please[11:26:26] *** Vipul_ <Vipul_!3d1081f2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.61.16.129.242> has joined #angularjs[11:26:31] <Elarcis> icebox: it is how JS works :3[11:26:34] <icebox> master_op: if user is an object (or an array), angular add automagically a watcher on that reference... if you update the object with $scope.myData = myNewData; // the old reference is gone, in the scope there is a new reference and the watcher is watching the old reference... result: the template is not updated[11:27:12] <icebox> Elarcis: you mean the reference part... but in angular there is also the observer pattern part :)[11:27:20] <Elarcis> icebox: yeah right[11:27:51] <Elarcis> icebox: I thought templates expressions weren't bound to references, but constantly evaluated?[11:27:54] <icebox> master_op: does it make sense?[11:28:11] <master_op> icebox: right, and i agree with that, i'm familiar (a little bit) with angularjs[11:28:28] <master_op> but the problem for me is more deeper than that[11:28:57] <icebox> master_op: stop here... better you provide a plunker reproducing the issue :)[11:29:26] <master_op> icebox: ok, i will do it now[11:30:04] <icebox> master_op: thanks... just to avoid any misunderstanding and to give a concrete help (and not only words) :)[11:30:43] <master_op> icebox: yes of course, i appreciate your help[11:31:52] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has quit IRC ()[11:32:04] <Vipul_> hi[11:32:33] <Vipul_> BreadcrumbService is giving error after upgrading to angular2 latest version.[11:32:50] <icebox> Elarcis: yes... dirty checking... but it is always related to observer pattern[11:33:05] *** senayar <senayar!~senayar@nat-hoche.poliris.net> 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or fork it and try to fix it yourself. these seems lke breaking changes created by the upgrade[11:36:30] *** squeakytoy2 <squeakytoy2!~squeakyto@h87-96-232-19.cust.se.alltele.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:36:47] <Vipul_> https://www.npmjs.com/package/ng2-breadcrumb[11:36:57] <Pyrrhus666> Vipul_: afaik all that points to the fact that the service uses deprecated stuff. it doesn´t exist anymore.[11:39:00] <Pyrrhus666> Vipul_: that lib hasn´t been updated in three months. it´s broken.[11:39:10] *** sumitsrv <sumitsrv!~androirc@106.51.227.44> has joined #angularjs[11:39:23] <Vipul_> I get that FORM_DIRECTIVES, ROUTER_DIRECTIVES are depricated now, but what is the replacement?[11:39:42] <Elarcis> Vipul_: holy hell, ng2 RC3 and router Alpha7, that is old[11:39:45] <Elarcis> Vipul_: I have no idea[11:39:46] *** thomaspaulb <thomaspaulb!~Tom@217.21.193.235> has joined #angularjs[11:40:13] <Elarcis> Vipul_: angular2's changelog probably tells it[11:40:22] <Pyrrhus666> Vipul_: check the docs/changelogs, it´s in there somewhere, but seeing as it´s so old, I´d give up and build it yourself.[11:40:39] *** ome <ome!uid36537@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-munklyvlhmhalcre> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[11:40:49] *** joshontheweb <joshontheweb!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:41:08] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has joined #angularjs[11:41:59] *** joshontheweb <joshontheweb!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has joined #angularjs[11:42:07] <Elarcis> ^[11:42:48] *** coder_2014 <coder_2014!~oh_yeah@124.red-79-146-190.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #angularjs[11:42:51] *** Wizek <Wizek!~Wizek@catv-89-132-132-110.catv.broadband.hu> has joined #angularjs[11:42:52] <ngWalrus> v[11:42:53] <coder_2014> good morning icebox[11:43:00] <Vipul_> Thanks![11:43:05] *** poikon <poikon!sid65299@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pbxlambqkgurybnq> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[11:43:26] <icebox> coder_2014: hey[11:43:47] <Pyrrhus666> Vipul_: a quick google got me this : https://gist.github.com/tbarisic/87fe3a867c359587303d5d0111660508[11:43:55] <Elarcis> Vipul_: seeing the source, there 100 lines of angular code, you can safely try to implement it from scratch by taking examples on the existing source[11:43:58] <Pyrrhus666> maybe it helps. at least it looks new :)[11:44:02] *** thevishy <thevishy!~thevishy@111.93.187.34> has joined #angularjs[11:44:30] *** OnkelTem <OnkelTem!~onkeltem@pppoe-62-84-112-224.dubna.ru> has joined #angularjs[11:44:45] <coder_2014> icebox: I'm getting zone.js:101 GET http://localhost:4200/node_modules/ag-grid-ng2/main.js 404 (Not Found) - I'm using the following import in my component: import {AgGridNg2} from 'ag-grid-ng2/main'; - and I've also added some mappings to the system-config.ts file - any clue what might be happening?[11:45:07] *** poikon <poikon!sid65299@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ddkjpohoiwtvkkjr> has joined #angularjs[11:45:56] <icebox> coder_2014: no idea... I don't use that setup[11:46:21] <coder_2014> ok[11:49:18] *** joshontheweb <joshontheweb!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[11:50:03] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@c-50-161-64-217.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:50:49] *** joshontheweb <joshontheweb!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has joined #angularjs[11:51:49] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has joined #angularjs[11:52:41] <senayar> coder_2014: look into your node_modules[11:52:49] <senayar> what is the structure or ag-grid-ng2 ?[11:55:01] *** compeman <compeman!~compeman@unaffiliated/compeman> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:55:15] *** compeman <compeman!~compeman@2607:f358:1f:ac:ac:47e1:e86:8a5c> has joined #angularjs[11:55:15] *** compeman <compeman!~compeman@2607:f358:1f:ac:ac:47e1:e86:8a5c> has quit IRC (Changing host)[11:55:15] *** compeman <compeman!~compeman@unaffiliated/compeman> has joined #angularjs[11:55:41] *** compeman <compeman!~compeman@unaffiliated/compeman> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:55:59] *** compeman <compeman!~compeman@88.247.45.8> has joined #angularjs[11:55:59] *** compeman <compeman!~compeman@88.247.45.8> has quit IRC (Changing host)[11:55:59] *** compeman <compeman!~compeman@unaffiliated/compeman> has joined #angularjs[11:56:16] *** akkonrad <akkonrad!~akkonrad3@gae109.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[11:57:09] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@unaffiliated/fuchstronaut> has joined #angularjs[11:58:32] *** mrded <mrded!~mrded@84.207.252.242> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:58:39] *** AlienCat <AlienCat!~workcat@unaffiliated/aliencat> has joined #angularjs[11:58:46] <AlienCat> Hey guys[11:59:11] *** mrded <mrded!~mrded@84.207.252.242> has joined #angularjs[12:00:34] *** bakirelived <bakirelived!~msilva@mail.hubel.pt> has joined #angularjs[12:00:58] *** antiPoP <antiPoP!~antiPoP@unaffiliated/antipop> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:01:08] <Preuk> can anyone tell what config changes are required when using ng2 components from npm packages (ng2-page-slider in this case), i can't figure out how to make it work consistently when using either tsc / JiT or ngc / AoT[12:02:15] *** autoboxer <autoboxer!~autoboxer@69.64.216.64> has joined #angularjs[12:02:28] <Preuk> this specific module won't transpile, so i keep getting 404 when using JiT[12:02:44] <ngWalrus> :O[12:02:52] *** msilva__ <msilva__!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[12:03:15] <Preuk> and AoT seems to ignore it altogether... but sometimes, with specific tsc/platformdynamic/ngc combination it ends up compiled just well[12:03:35] <Preuk> it's so weird... i'm going cray (crazier tbh)[12:05:07] <Preuk> wait... tsconfig: "exclude": [ "node_modules", ...[12:05:37] *** llwt <llwt!~textual@c-73-164-149-125.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[12:05:42] <Preuk> guess that's why, but i'm totaly lost there[12:06:15] *** llwt <llwt!~textual@c-73-164-149-125.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[12:06:33] *** autoboxer <autoboxer!~autoboxer@69.64.216.64> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[12:06:55] <bd-> welcome to ng2[12:07:36] <AlienCat> http://pastebin.com/MdyApD2Y the curgroup is not updated when I pick an option in select[12:08:15] <AlienCat> strange enough I can set curgroup to a values and the selected changes[12:08:25] <AlienCat> it only works one way[12:08:46] <Preuk> bd-: i've been using it for a few months, but that's one weird problem, probably not even ng2 related but TS/systemJS[12:08:50] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[12:11:22] *** Foxandxss <Foxandxss!~textual@angularjs/member/foxandxss> has joined #angularjs[12:11:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Foxandxss[12:12:06] *** nishu-tryinghard <nishu-tryinghard!~nishanth@183.82.99.106> has joined 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way?[12:22:13] *** pyios <pyios!~pyios@114.111.167.244> has joined #angularjs[12:22:35] *** h2baik <h2baik!~h2baik@90.63.244.57> has joined #angularjs[12:24:38] *** raijin <raijin!~raijin@unaffiliated/raijin> has joined #angularjs[12:25:04] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has joined #angularjs[12:25:13] *** akkonrad <akkonrad!~akkonrad3@gae109.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #angularjs[12:27:03] *** komal_ <komal_!67cbe178@gateway/web/freenode/ip.103.203.225.120> has joined #angularjs[12:27:08] *** komal_ <komal_!67cbe178@gateway/web/freenode/ip.103.203.225.120> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:27:15] *** evilaliv3 <evilaliv3!~evilaliv3@212.91.95.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[12:27:15] *** zeioth <zeioth!~zeioth@5.red-80-39-129.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #angularjs[12:27:47] <ngWalrus> AlienCat reference is broken[12:28:54] *** jhadvig <jhadvig!jhadvig@nat/redhat/x-kqqfmvzewmstqfgt> has joined #angularjs[12:29:07] <AlienCat> huh?[12:31:12] *** hugofirth <hugofirth!~hugofirth@cpc85756-newc19-2-0-cust132.16-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #angularjs[12:31:13] *** romerocesar <romerocesar!~cesar@c-73-97-145-30.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:31:14] <Pyrrhus666> AlienCat: Two way data binding pitfalls http://plnkr.co/edit/7anGLMoJZgMkJFX9d9IA?p=preview (shamelessly stolen from icebox)[12:31:31] <Pyrrhus666> see usage and comment in app.js[12:31:34] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence.cluster-d.websense.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:31:48] *** uru is now known as uru|away[12:31:52] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence.cluster-d.websense.net> has joined #angularjs[12:32:45] <AlienCat> I declare curgroup like this: $scope.curgroup = null;[12:33:28] <Pyrrhus666> AlienCat: could make a plunk showing the problem ?[12:33:56] <icebox> AlienCat: generally spekaing, https://www.undefinednull.com/2014/08/11/a-brief-walk-through-of-the-ng-options-in-angularjs/[12:35:50] *** evilaliv3 <evilaliv3!~evilaliv3@212.91.95.170> has joined #angularjs[12:35:53] *** anuj_ <anuj_!78485b14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.120.72.91.20> has joined #angularjs[12:36:02] <anuj_> join[12:36:14] *** raijin <raijin!~raijin@unaffiliated/raijin> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[12:36:44] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[12:37:34] <anuj_> angular js for andrioid[12:38:26] *** pbgc <pbgc!~pbgc@bl17-141-17.dsl.telepac.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/)[12:38:37] <icebox> anuj_: nativescript[12:40:39] <anuj_> Thanks[12:41:15] *** VeeWee <VeeWee!~VeeWee@lclbe-surf.cronos.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[12:42:48] *** plutoniix <plutoniix!~q@119-46-218-2.static.asianet.co.th> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:43:35] <ngWalrus> what do you guys use for making grids[12:43:48] <Pyrrhus666> tables and ng-repeat.[12:44:09] <ngWalrus> not featurful enough for my usecase :/[12:46:32] <Pyrrhus666> I´ve used ng-grid in the past (looks like it´s renamed to ui-grid now). worked OK, but I ran into some issues that were specific to my needs.[12:46:36] <bd-> trnggrid[12:46:48] <bd-> basically nggrid but tables instead of divs[12:46:50] *** VeeWee <VeeWee!~VeeWee@lclbe-surf.cronos.be> has joined #angularjs[12:48:37] <AlienCat> http://plnkr.co/edit/NAWY5k8aJeqVzv4UrFzn strange, I do not even see the select thing[12:49:38] <ngWalrus> I'm starting to fear, that I need to write my own functionality[12:49:44] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@unaffiliated/fuchstronaut> has quit IRC ()[12:49:48] <ngWalrus> blech[12:49:50] <ngWalrus> BLECH[12:49:51] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@unaffiliated/fuchstronaut> has joined #angularjs[12:49:53] *** cotko <cotko!~ahmed@89-212-138-82.static.t-2.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:49:53] *** cotko2 <cotko2!~ahmed@89-212-138-82.static.t-2.net> has joined #angularjs[12:50:27] *** iraj_ <iraj_!~iraj@91.107.181.129> has joined #angularjs[12:50:36] <Pyrrhus666> AlienCat: you have errors on the console.[12:50:39] *** iraj <iraj!~iraj@unaffiliated/iraj> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[12:50:41] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@c-50-161-64-217.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[12:51:15] <Pyrrhus666> AlienCat: your plunk uses angular 2, is that correct ?[12:51:36] <icebox> AlienCat: missing ng-app[12:51:47] <icebox> AlienCat: no... it is there[12:52:03] <AlienCat> no it should be[12:52:06] <AlienCat> angular 1[12:52:19] <Pyrrhus666> AlienCat: then there´s a problem :)[12:52:25] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has joined #angularjs[12:52:44] *** Lomex <Lomex!~lomex@213.61.34.42> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:53:15] <icebox> AlienCat: you can use the template in the topic[12:53:41] <ngWalrus> !help[12:53:41] <uru|away> ngWalrus: I am not a bot! (promise)[12:53:41] <angularjs_bot> AngularJS Plunker template http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS[12:54:20] <ngWalrus> I wonder how you'd actually do this[12:54:43] <ngWalrus> Basically I have a bunch of rows for the table, and there's a column that's an array[12:54:52] <ngWalrus> and I'm wondering how to display that intelligently[12:55:21] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has joined #angularjs[12:56:09] *** george_v <george_v!~george_v@178.128.119.69> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:56:25] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@c-50-161-64-217.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[12:57:26] <ngWalrus> would be easier if the data was just a simple number too[12:57:37] <ngWalrus> or a string or something[12:58:21] <Pyrrhus666> ngWalrus: a quick directive for that one type of cell, and a straight ng-repeat for the rows ?[12:59:18] *** bakirelived <bakirelived!~msilva@mail.hubel.pt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[12:59:59] *** star_pro_ <star_pro_!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has joined #angularjs[13:00:04] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[13:00:07] <ngWalrus> I think I need to generate multiple rows for that complex column(which is technically three columns, but I don't think it matters)[13:01:18] *** nr152522 <nr152522!~nr152522@my89-104-40-64.cust.relish.net> has joined #angularjs[13:02:23] *** milkman_ <milkman_!~milkman@80.146.168.122> has joined #angularjs[13:03:07] *** anuj_ <anuj_!78485b14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.120.72.91.20> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[13:03:32] *** ssad <ssad!78485b14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.120.72.91.20> has joined #angularjs[13:03:32] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:03:57] *** Lomex <Lomex!~lomex@213.61.34.42> has joined #angularjs[13:04:11] <AlienCat> oh great[13:04:20] <AlienCat> I broke the template already[13:04:20] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has joined #angularjs[13:04:24] *** leolrrj <leolrrj!~leolrrj@2601:580:c000:8ba:9477:e61f:e7fc:daa9> has joined #angularjs[13:04:39] <AlienCat> http://plnkr.co/edit/UwCFUQqcv6EYCFxkHTlw[13:04:56] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: maybe a foldable component for columns of type array? displays its content as a vertical list, so you don't have to nest tables?[13:05:40] <AlienCat> it wont parse {{foo.bar}}[13:05:40] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:06:14] *** plutoniix <plutoniix!~q@119-46-218-2.static.asianet.co.th> has joined #angularjs[13:06:21] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has joined #angularjs[13:06:51] <Pyrrhus666> missing ng-app ?[13:07:09] *** nya_ <nya_!~nya@210.135.96.135> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:07:36] <ngWalrus> Elarcis you are a smart man[13:08:11] *** ssad <ssad!78485b14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.120.72.91.20> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:08:15] <Pyrrhus666> AlienCat: with added ng-app it works as expected...[13:08:54] *** Lomex <Lomex!~lomex@213.61.34.42> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:09:01] <AlienCat> okay, apparently I had and ng-if in my code[13:09:01] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:09:14] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: not smart enough to understand massive reflection-exploiting Typescript patterns I have to work with[13:09:23] <Pyrrhus666> AlienCat: and that introduces a scope and breaks it...[13:09:33] *** stefanotorresi <stefanotorresi!~etienne`@84.222.150.11> has joined #angularjs[13:09:45] <ngWalrus> Elarcis but just smart enough to fix my issues[13:10:02] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has joined #angularjs[13:10:03] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: oh, sweet[13:10:43] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:10:56] <Elarcis> help me I've got the Frozen's snowman song stuck in the head[13:11:15] <ngWalrus> I haven't seen frozen[13:11:20] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has joined #angularjs[13:11:23] <AlienCat> anyways thats my issue, thank you[13:11:28] <AlienCat> :)[13:11:35] *** tarnus <tarnus!~tarnus@2602:306:ccaa:9790:1bd:f458:c311:b83e> has joined #angularjs[13:11:36] *** AlienCat <AlienCat!~workcat@unaffiliated/aliencat> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:11:43] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: it's nice if you like singing movies[13:11:53] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: otherwise it'll look like a bad musical[13:15:13] *** amcorreia <amcorreia!~amcorreia@2804:7f5:280:2459::1> has joined #angularjs[13:16:15] *** raijin <raijin!~raijin@unaffiliated/raijin> has joined #angularjs[13:16:17] <Pyrrhus666> but singing movies are musicals no ?[13:16:31] *** tarnus <tarnus!~tarnus@2602:306:ccaa:9790:1bd:f458:c311:b83e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[13:17:02] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: eeeehhhhh, I tend to think of musicals as more oriented on the musical and choregraphic experience[13:17:17] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: whereas singing movies are an actual cinematographic story, with songs in it[13:17:23] <Elarcis> (imho)[13:18:03] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: hmm, ok... for me, singing movies are always musicals, but musicals are not always singing movies.[13:18:23] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I don't know the exact definition[13:18:24] <Pyrrhus666> then again, I like neither (except maybe the rocky horror picture show)[13:19:00] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: me neither :)[13:19:07] <icebox> you are out :)[13:19:29] <ngWalrus> get banned[13:19:43] <ngWalrus> I'm pretty indifferent about musicals[13:19:47] <Pyrrhus666> for not liking musicals ?[13:19:50] <ngWalrus> yeah[13:19:59] <ngWalrus> it's in the channel code of conduct[13:20:06] <ngWalrus> "must like musicals"[13:20:08] <icebox> no flames about text editors... no flames about mvc... but don't touch RHPS :)[13:20:37] <Pyrrhus666> hmm, I´d expect this from /r/ainbow or somesuch place, but not this ;)[13:21:08] <Pyrrhus666> icebox: I said rhps was the positive exception, so no problem there, right ? ;)[13:21:23] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:21:24] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@unaffiliated/fuchstronaut> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:21:37] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: you still touched it[13:21:45] <nishu-tryinghard> i liked watching whiplash, does that count as musical?[13:22:04] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: darn, you got me on a technicality...[13:22:30] <Pyrrhus666> nishu-tryinghard: that´s what my dominatrix says too...[13:22:32] *** Shilon <Shilon!~Shilon@a79-168-104-17.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Shilon)[13:23:13] *** star_pro_ <star_pro_!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:23:42] <nishu-tryinghard> well that ... thats one way to put it[13:23:50] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has joined #angularjs[13:24:40] <nishu-tryinghard> how do you manage to get time to hangout here ?[13:25:15] *** angrybacon <angrybacon!~angrybaco@178.16.163.28> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Sorry, I'm not familiar with your setup[13:33:09] *** plutoniix <plutoniix!~q@119-46-218-2.static.asianet.co.th> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:33:31] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #angularjs[13:33:48] *** VeeWee <VeeWee!~VeeWee@lclbe-surf.cronos.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:34:10] *** littlebear <littlebear!~littlebea@CPE1cabc00e3113-CM1cabc00e3110.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined #angularjs[13:34:11] *** umdstu <umdstu!~umdstu@65.127.220.137> has joined #angularjs[13:34:13] *** raijin <raijin!~raijin@unaffiliated/raijin> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:34:29] <unseensoul> Angular 2 issue: I have this html line in a component's template '<div *ngIf="check()"></div>'. The problem is that the check() function is called multiple times during bootstrap to check for changes. How do I prevent that?[13:35:39] *** naveenvalecha <naveenvalecha!~naveenval@unaffiliated/naveenvalecha> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:35:41] <akkonrad> Elarcis, ok I've updated config in systemjs.config.js and when typing npm start it does not throws 404 errors any more. I had to add mapping and packages to that file[13:36:06] *** someone235 <someone235!~someone23@unaffiliated/someone235> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:36:53] *** bbankes <bbankes!~bbankes@2601:680:c402:3215:6c:8db:919f:f40f> has joined #angularjs[13:36:53] *** bbankes <bbankes!~bbankes@2601:680:c402:3215:6c:8db:919f:f40f> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:37:30] <Elarcis> akkonrad: seems legit[13:38:08] <Elarcis> unseensoul: well it's the expected behavior, that's how bindings work. You want check() to be ran only once ever?[13:38:31] <unseensoul> Elarcis: yes, only once[13:39:54] *** hugofirth <hugofirth!~hugofirth@cpc85756-newc19-2-0-cust132.16-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[13:40:35] *** leolrrj <leolrrj!~leolrrj@2601:580:c000:8ba:9477:e61f:e7fc:daa9> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:40:49] *** george_v <george_v!~george_v@193.92.17.194.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #angularjs[13:40:51] <Elarcis> unseensoul: apparently, one-time bindings have been removed from angular2, but you can either 1. make check() return either the stored result if it's defined, or make its check, store the result and return it (so check() runs multiple times, but the actual check is ran once), or 2. fiddle with ChangeDetectionStrategy[13:41:25] <Elarcis> unseensoul: if your check is slow, caching should be done anyway :D[13:41:31] *** Ramesh <Ramesh!74323bb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.116.50.59.180> has joined #angularjs[13:41:38] *** iraj_ <iraj_!~iraj@91.107.181.129> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:41:41] <Elarcis> *you should do caching anyway[13:41:59] *** iraj_ <iraj_!~iraj@91.107.181.129> has joined #angularjs[13:42:00] *** davi-lima <davi-lima!~Davi@191.250.192.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[13:42:19] <Pyrrhus666> and make sure a function called check() does not have side effects (if it has any...)[13:42:51] *** rickmak <rickmak!~rickmak@203186221114.ctinets.com> has quit IRC (Quit: rickmak)[13:43:02] <unseensoul> Elarcis: It looks like it's going to be a pain, since my template is more complex than that. But thank you for the input. I'll find a nice way of doing it :)[13:43:13] <ngWalrus> wait[13:43:15] <ngWalrus> WAIT[13:43:21] <Pyrrhus666> WAT[13:43:35] <ngWalrus> how am I supposed to display this fucking data[13:43:44] <unseensoul> LOL[13:43:56] <Pyrrhus666> {{data | json}}[13:44:08] <ngWalrus> sounds good[13:44:17] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: {{ data }}[13:44:19] <Pyrrhus666> oh sorry : {{ fuckingdata | json }}[13:44:30] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: {{ fuckingdata }}[13:44:46] <unseensoul> Hahaha[13:44:50] *** unseensoul <unseensoul!d98a345e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.138.52.94> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[13:44:55] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: even better: {{ fuckingdata | magic }}[13:45:03] <ngWalrus> I really should do that[13:45:08] <Pyrrhus666> ooh, I like that one...[13:45:16] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: if you're adventurous you can try moreMagic.[13:45:25] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@unaffiliated/fuchstronaut> has joined #angularjs[13:45:40] <ngWalrus> {{ fuckingdata | json | magic | moreMagic }} ???[13:45:41] <Pyrrhus666> {{ fuckingdata | magic : ¨black¨}}[13:45:54] <Pyrrhus666> ¨voodoo¨ is also a nice choice[13:46:17] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[13:47:07] *** llwt <llwt!~textual@c-73-164-149-125.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[13:47:35] *** drptbl <drptbl!~drptbl@213-241-25-178.static.ip.netia.com.pl> has joined #angularjs[13:47:44] <Elarcis> I love that story http://catb.org/jargon/html/magic-story.html[13:48:40] <ngWalrus> this table is going to be confusing[13:49:58] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: good one :)[13:50:44] *** ZxZcxzxc <ZxZcxzxc!ab3d990f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.61.153.15> has joined #angularjs[13:50:54] <ZxZcxzxc> hi[13:51:10] *** ZxZcxzxc <ZxZcxzxc!ab3d990f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.61.153.15> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:51:36] <Pyrrhus666> bye ![13:53:24] *** arlekin <arlekin!~arlekin@ip-81-15-241-52.kampinostelco.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)[13:53:59] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: wanna work on classes implementing other classes as interfaces, the latter having a constructor accepting an instance of the former and just copying all its member to its this?[13:54:04] *** F1LT3R <F1LT3R!~F1LT3R@50.234.75.70> has joined #angularjs[13:54:23] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: yes I find it's crazy, yet I'm not expert enough or haven't work enough on it to say if it's evil[13:54:39] *** raijin <raijin!~raijin@unaffiliated/raijin> has joined #angularjs[13:54:55] <Elarcis> previous nutjoberies, I could easily say it was stupid[13:55:06] *** tucan12 <tucan12!~tucan@ool-44c63a3d.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[13:55:14] <Elarcis> this stuff, made by a 10-years-of-experience tech expert, I can't as easily refute it[13:55:33] <Elarcis> I just know it makes the error checking tool drunk[13:56:12] <ngWalrus> Elarcis no thanks[13:57:28] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #angularjs[13:57:38] *** PaulCapestany <PaulCapestany!~PaulCapes@2604:5500:17:2ea:5415:c093:e98:94c1> has quit IRC (Quit: .)[13:58:31] *** drptbl <drptbl!~drptbl@213-241-25-178.static.ip.netia.com.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:58:52] *** Germanaz0 <Germanaz0!~Germanaz0@unaffiliated/germanaz0> has joined #angularjs[13:58:57] *** F1LT3R <F1LT3R!~F1LT3R@50.234.75.70> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[14:00:27] *** tarnus <tarnus!~tarnus@2602:306:ccaa:9790:c910:2dcb:557b:3730> has joined #angularjs[14:00:34] <coder_2014> I'm trying to use ag-grid in my Angular2 project and after importing the component and adding it as a directive (import {AgGridNg2} from 'ag-grid-ng2/main'; and directives: [AgGridNg2]) I get the following error in my browser: zone.js:101 GET http://localhost:4200/node_modules/ag-grid-ng2/main.js 404 (Not Found) - any help would be strongly appreciated[14:00:36] *** Lomex <Lomex!~lomex@213.61.34.42> has joined #angularjs[14:00:41] *** raijin <raijin!~raijin@unaffiliated/raijin> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[14:00:58] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has joined #angularjs[14:01:03] <ngWalrus> it can't find the file[14:01:10] *** drptbl <drptbl!~drptbl@213-241-25-178.static.ip.netia.com.pl> has joined #angularjs[14:01:11] *** PaulCapestany <PaulCapestany!~PaulCapes@2604:5500:17:2ea:c917:ff75:dc6c:bc99> has joined #angularjs[14:01:31] <coder_2014> but I've got ag-grid-ng2 under the node_modules/ folder[14:01:51] <Elarcis> coder_2014: you need to reference the ag-grid-ng2 module in your SystemJS config[14:02:29] <coder_2014> Elarcis: I've done that under the const map: any = { } section as 'ag-grid-ng2' : 'node_modules/ag-grid-ng2',[14:03:10] <Elarcis> coder_2014: please mind that I'm not omniscient, I have no idea what you're talking about since I can't see your computer screen XD[14:03:21] <coder_2014> xD[14:04:02] <Elarcis> coder_2014: also, it's not the right syntax if it's what I think[14:04:17] <Elarcis> coder_2014: it should be 'as-grid-ng2': 'npm:as-grid-ng2'[14:04:31] *** Ramesh <Ramesh!74323bb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.116.50.59.180> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[14:04:55] *** arnas <arnas!~arnas@88-119-97-225.static.zebra.lt> has joined #angularjs[14:05:02] <arnas> hey[14:05:03] <Elarcis> coder_2014: that's why I don't like SystemJS[14:05:10] <Elarcis> arnas: no, go away[14:05:14] <arnas> ?[14:05:32] <coder_2014> Elarcis: I copied it from https://www.ag-grid.com/best-angular-2-data-grid/index.php section where it says You will also need to configure SystemX for ag-grid and ag-grid-component as follows:[14:05:36] <Elarcis> arnas: you shall not bring apocalyptic previsions today[14:05:48] <Elarcis> SystemX?[14:05:51] <Elarcis> what[14:05:55] <Elarcis> I don't know[14:06:08] <arnas> is there anything like ng-minlength (but for checkboxes) for form validation?[14:06:09] *** PaulCapestany <PaulCapestany!~PaulCapes@2604:5500:17:2ea:c917:ff75:dc6c:bc99> has quit IRC (Quit: .)[14:06:10] <coder_2014> Elarcis: http://imgur.com/a/t3a1b that's my system-config.ts file[14:06:25] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:06:26] <coder_2014> Elarcis: the part where I"m definig the map and packages consts[14:07:33] *** autoboxer <autoboxer!~autoboxer@69.64.216.64> has joined #angularjs[14:07:43] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: that doesn´t make sense ?[14:08:10] *** vasoberu <vasoberu!1f9203ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.146.3.238> has joined #angularjs[14:08:11] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, you probably miss-understood me. I mean I need the form to have an error if the user didn't check the checkbox[14:08:26] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: so mark it mandatory ?[14:08:44] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, with required?[14:09:05] *** vasoberu <vasoberu!1f9203ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.146.3.238> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:09:09] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: yes.[14:09:42] *** nya_ <nya_!~nya@p7902c6f7.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp> has joined #angularjs[14:09:47] *** ngbot <ngbot!~ngbot@192.30.252.42> has joined #angularjs[14:09:47] <ngbot> [angular.js] gkalpak pushed 3 new commits to v1.5.x: https://git.io/viHoc[14:09:47] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.5.x 581d1ba Georgios Kalpakas: fix($resource): pass `options` when binding default params...[14:09:47] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.5.x d3e9fcf Georgios Kalpakas: refactor($resource): use local references of Angular helpers[14:09:47] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.5.x e2b7a57 Georgios Kalpakas: refactor($resource): use `route.defaults` (already merged `provider.defaults` + `options`)...[14:09:47] *** ngbot <ngbot!~ngbot@192.30.252.42> has left #angularjs[14:10:20] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, good thinking. Thanks :D[14:10:45] *** drptbl <drptbl!~drptbl@213-241-25-178.static.ip.netia.com.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: See you later!)[14:12:21] *** fbenoit_ <fbenoit_!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #angularjs[14:12:22] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:13:56] *** tomphp <tomphp!~tomphp@host81-149-57-43.in-addr.btopenworld.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[14:14:19] *** ngbot <ngbot!~ngbot@192.30.252.46> has joined #angularjs[14:14:19] <ngbot> [angular.js] gkalpak pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/viHoj[14:14:19] <ngbot> angular.js/master cf241c4 Joao Dinis: docs(guide/concepts): insert comma...[14:14:19] *** ngbot <ngbot!~ngbot@192.30.252.46> has left #angularjs[14:14:25] <Elarcis> coder_2014: no pm please, you'll get more help here[14:14:42] <Elarcis> coder_2014: also, it's normal to be new once :)[14:15:01] <andygmb> with angular.element(element) how can I check if its visible in a test scenario?[14:15:37] <coder_2014> Elarcis: any clue why it's not finding the import {AgGridNg2} from 'ag-grid-ng2/main'; ?[14:15:42] *** stoffus <stoffus!~stoffus@83.140.0.0> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[14:15:42] <Elarcis> coder_2014: I don't know crap about SystemJS, so I cannot help you much, I'm sorry[14:15:48] <coder_2014> ok[14:15:51] <coder_2014> no worries[14:16:25] *** autoboxer <autoboxer!~autoboxer@69.64.216.64> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:16:25] <Elarcis> coder_2014: if I were you, I'd use a starter project with a more flexible tool to learn angular[14:16:33] *** Alina-malina <Alina-malina!~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:16:39] <Elarcis> coder_2014: configuring systemJS seems to be a m-pita[14:17:26] <Pyrrhus666> coder_2014: do you use angular-cli ?[14:17:34] <coder_2014> Pyrrhus666: yes[14:17:35] *** tomphp <tomphp!~tomphp@host81-149-57-43.in-addr.btopenworld.com> has joined #angularjs[14:17:42] <coder_2014> Pyrrhus666: I created the project using Angular CLI[14:17:44] <Pyrrhus666> have you checked https://github.com/angular/angular-cli#3rd-party-library-installation[14:18:16] <coder_2014> Pyrrhus666: I haven't tried that[14:18:20] <Pyrrhus666> I think if you use angular-cli you should not manage the config yourself, but I´m not sure.[14:18:49] <coder_2014> ok, let me try that[14:18:50] <coder_2014> thanks[14:19:23] <Pyrrhus666> np, I noticed an angular-cli reference in your screenie.[14:19:48] <coder_2014> Pyrrhus666: I installed the ag-grid using npm anyways, but I didn't use the --save option....[14:20:03] <coder_2014> not sure if that'd make any difference really[14:20:06] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@c-69-139-16-116.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[14:20:12] <Pyrrhus666> coder_2014: that´s a major mistake :P[14:20:21] <coder_2014> :)[14:20:36] <Pyrrhus666> (actually : --save adds it to package.json. which is probably used by systemjs somewhere)[14:20:45] <Pyrrhus666> so this could be ´it´.[14:20:51] *** rocktop_ <rocktop_!~rocktop@105.158.17.36> has joined #angularjs[14:21:18] *** Alina-malina <Alina-malina!~Alina-mal@37.157.216.188> has joined #angularjs[14:21:20] <coder_2014> Pyrrhus666: could be, I had to add them to package.json manually - maybe I was missing something, fingers crossed ... I'm really desperated[14:23:16] *** iraj_ <iraj_!~iraj@91.107.181.129> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[14:23:51] *** ngbot <ngbot!~ngbot@192.30.252.46> has joined #angularjs[14:23:51] <ngbot> [angular.js] gkalpak pushed 1 new commit to v1.5.x: https://git.io/viH63[14:23:51] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.5.x 4266a9b Joao Dinis: docs(guide/concepts): insert comma...[14:23:51] *** ngbot <ngbot!~ngbot@192.30.252.46> has left #angularjs[14:24:56] *** Alina-malina <Alina-malina!~Alina-mal@37.157.216.188> has quit IRC (Changing host)[14:24:56] *** Alina-malina <Alina-malina!~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina> has joined #angularjs[14:26:44] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:26:59] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has joined #angularjs[14:27:32] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:27:55] *** csk <csk!~csk@190-21-98-234.baf.movistar.cl> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[14:28:41] *** angrybacon <angrybacon!~angrybaco@178.16.163.28> has joined #angularjs[14:28:44] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has joined #angularjs[14:28:45] <coder_2014> nah it didn't work[14:28:55] *** abnv <abnv!2d77878b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.45.119.135.139> has joined #angularjs[14:29:12] <abnv> ..[14:29:15] *** abnv <abnv!2d77878b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.45.119.135.139> has left #angularjs[14:29:36] <Pyrrhus666> coder_2014: bummer... I´m all out of ideas...[14:31:04] *** Shilon <Shilon!~Shilon@a79-168-104-17.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #angularjs[14:31:15] *** uru|away is now known as uru[14:31:23] *** asteele <asteele!~Cronoh@192.77.237.216> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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I don't know that[14:47:48] *** sumit <sumit!~sumit@182.156.77.142> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[14:47:53] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: nah, its scripted, not compiled. and platform independence kinda sucks ;)[14:47:54] <coder_2014> icebox: I think I'm using SystemJS ?[14:48:01] <coder_2014> icebox: if that helps...[14:48:05] <icebox> coder_2014: the point is you need to fit this https://github.com/ceolter/ag-grid-ng2-example with the setup https://github.com/angular/angular-cli[14:48:21] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[14:48:41] *** Debnet`Work <Debnet`Work!~Marc@48.86.2.93.rev.sfr.net> has joined #angularjs[14:48:45] <coder_2014> yeah[14:48:52] <icebox> coder_2014: if you don't know what you are doing, it is better to start without any tool[14:49:08] <icebox> coder_2014: configuring manually all the setup[14:49:26] *** csk <csk!~csk@190-21-98-234.baf.movistar.cl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:49:52] <icebox> coder_2014: and after any change you need to test the results... the path is longer but at least you can understand what happens behind the scenes[14:50:07] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: if you think of it, the web and Internet are a pretty amazingly crazy thing, though[14:50:17] *** soee <soee!~soee@user-164-127-151-70.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:50:56] <coder_2014> icebox: thanks, I'll keep investigating[14:51:06] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: yeah. I remember showing it to my friends in 199x, loading yahoo.co.jp and realizing the thing came from japan in real time...[14:51:12] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I'm ready to use scripted apps constrained to a browser if it means running programs and reading data written by strangers all around the world without having to install anything[14:51:23] *** encryptd_fractal <encryptd_fractal!~encryptd_@c-24-245-47-249.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[14:51:56] *** Debnet <Debnet!~Marc@smtp2.sa-cim.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[14:51:57] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: so, openening a webpage, essentially ? :)[14:51:59] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I also look at my phone screen and tell myself 'no way such a small thing can work and display text, there must be magic'[14:52:10] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: well yes[14:52:18] *** csk <csk!~csk@181.201.213.226> has joined #angularjs[14:52:21] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: wanted a more dramatic approach[14:52:29] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: no, _more_ magic ;)[14:52:36] <Elarcis> FLIP THE SWITCH[14:52:40] <Elarcis> A FLICK AND A FLIP[14:54:18] *** cacts|WAS <cacts|WAS!~cactus@c-174-51-80-218.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[14:55:36] <Elarcis> You give 'em a twist, a flick of the wrist, that's what the showman said ♪♫[14:55:58] <ngWalrus> I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts[14:56:51] <SaltyCatFish> there they are a standing in a row[14:57:33] *** siba <siba!~textual@60-242-28-48.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #angularjs[14:58:03] *** MattWelch <MattWelch!~MattWelch@cpe-107-15-134-63.nc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[15:00:41] *** MattWelch <MattWelch!~MattWelch@cpe-107-15-134-63.nc.res.rr.com> has joined #angularjs[15:01:10] *** Debnet`Laptop <Debnet`Laptop!~Marc@smtp2.sa-cim.fr> has joined #angularjs[15:01:22] <Elarcis> big ones, small ones, somes as big as ye head[15:04:34] *** mven <mven!~textual@cpe-173-174-112-125.austin.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[15:04:45] *** Debnet`Work <Debnet`Work!~Marc@48.86.2.93.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:06:16] *** Shilon <Shilon!~Shilon@a79-168-104-17.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Shilon)[15:06:39] <Elarcis> fgdb,vn,fghfdvghdv[15:06:48] <Elarcis> I HATE that thing I have to work on[15:07:00] <Pyrrhus666> a knife, a fork, a bottle and a cork...[15:07:03] *** pwnd_nsfw` <pwnd_nsfw`!~pwnd_@cpe-2606-A000-FB05-3A00-0-0-0-1.dyn6.twc.com> has joined #angularjs[15:07:19] <Elarcis> it was SIMPLE. EFFICIENT. It almost worked, providing a minor polymorphic concession was made[15:07:53] <Pyrrhus666> well there you have it. cannot have a consession...[15:08:00] *** F1LT3R <F1LT3R!~F1LT3R@50.234.75.70> has joined #angularjs[15:08:14] <Elarcis> 'ho no, let's make a completely overengineered mess that's horrendous to code, isn't working anymore, and for which the conceptor will only assist with one-liners e-mails like 'just create an interface''[15:08:42] *** krusty_ar <krusty_ar!~quassel@190.192.59.178> has joined #angularjs[15:08:44] *** joshontheweb <joshontheweb!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:09:11] <icebox> Elarcis: the beginning of the end[15:09:25] <Elarcis> the guy that's supposed to be able to code the thing (not a dev but a scientist) will find this awful, I'm encountering infinitely-stupid issues I can't comprehend how to fix, all of that because that expert is a maniac of JS reflection[15:10:01] *** pwnd_nsfw <pwnd_nsfw!~pwnd_@cpe-2606-A000-FB05-3A00-0-0-0-1.dyn6.twc.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[15:10:32] <zomg> just fix it[15:10:33] <zomg> :D[15:10:52] <Elarcis> oh yeah, and I'm done in one hour and the expert can't have my call before two[15:11:19] *** joshontheweb <joshontheweb!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has joined #angularjs[15:11:38] <Elarcis> I woke up earlier on purpose to leave earlier, not gonna wait for you today, especially since I'm absolutely not in the appropriate mental state to extend my day to deal with more of that madness[15:12:33] <zomg> you could just slowly start to replace the madness[15:12:35] <zomg> that's what I'd do :D[15:13:07] <Pyrrhus666> just grab some of those coconuts, fix yourself a coconut daiquiry (give one to ngWalrus as well) and relax.[15:13:59] *** chrs <chrs!d5808d54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.128.141.84> has joined #angularjs[15:14:31] <Elarcis> zomg: I can't, we have to talk this through first[15:14:51] <zomg> sounds fun[15:15:27] *** chrs <chrs!d5808d54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.128.141.84> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:15:56] *** Poeticode <Poeticode!~Prophesi@host-68-169-169-183.VABOLT2.epbfi.com> has joined #angularjs[15:15:58] <Elarcis> it's like 'hey, we did that! _yeaaah, about that I'm not sure that it's functionnally correct.... _okay, like this? _yeah, good! _nice, and it's simple to write too! wait, let me make it better... *gives back madness* ok, I haven't gone in all the detail yet but it should work! *leaves for several days, letting me the honour of testing if it works, and if not, how I am supposed to correct it*[15:16:31] *** soee <soee!~soee@user-164-127-151-70.play-internet.pl> has joined #angularjs[15:18:37] <zomg> I would just delete it all[15:18:48] <zomg> the original worked so what is this[15:18:48] <zomg> :D[15:18:56] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #angularjs[15:19:26] <zomg> this is what I do a lot in some ways[15:19:33] <zomg> someone in our company writes code *which works*[15:19:38] <zomg> but I'm like.. what the hell[15:19:51] <zomg> then sometime later I just write it all from scratch :p[15:20:14] <zomg> ok, the reason for writing it from scratch just so happened that we did two major refactors which gave me this opportunity[15:20:37] <zomg> but the difference between what was there and what I wrote is just so staggering[15:20:40] <zomg> I wish I knew how to articulate it[15:20:49] <zomg> How can I tell someone what I just did so they can do it too?[15:21:33] *** fbenoit_ <fbenoit_!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:21:33] *** Poeticode <Poeticode!~Prophesi@host-68-169-169-183.VABOLT2.epbfi.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:21:40] <zomg> They can definitely see the improvement in the code but so far I haven't really figured out what it is that sets it out from what was there[15:23:03] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@c-69-139-16-116.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> 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business' where there isn't the resources to hire more/better devs, the cost of maintaining technical debt can be far less than the cost of preventing it in the first place[15:27:21] <zomg> Pyrrhus666: and it can be learned and taught I'm sure[15:27:46] *** Debnet`Work <Debnet`Work!~Marc@48.86.2.93.rev.sfr.net> has joined #angularjs[15:27:50] <zomg> bd-: pretty much[15:28:12] <zomg> you can easily spot those who work in bigger and/or well funded companies[15:28:20] <zomg> because they're always the first to say "just hire someone better!"[15:28:21] <zomg> :D[15:28:34] <icebox> indeed I said also "investing"[15:28:39] *** ren0v0 <ren0v0!~ren0v0@5.80.247.93> has quit IRC (Quit: cya!)[15:28:39] <bd-> yea, some people think devs only exist in the enterprise and every project has 30 coders working on it[15:28:53] <bd-> whereas it's pretty common that you have one dev on 20 projects[15:29:34] *** edrocks <edrocks!~edrocks@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has joined #angularjs[15:29:55] *** ren0v0 <ren0v0!~ren0v0@5.80.247.93> has joined #angularjs[15:30:04] <soee> what would be the best way to check if string is not empty (only spaces also should be validated as an empty string) ?[15:30:12] *** realz <realz!~realz@unaffiliated/realazthat> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:30:15] <zomg> soee: regex[15:30:17] <Pyrrhus666> in my line of work it´s often cheaper to let the debt rise. custom stuff we build often has a shelf-life of a couple of years anyway.[15:30:41] *** Debnet`Laptop <Debnet`Laptop!~Marc@smtp2.sa-cim.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:30:49] <zomg> soee: /^\s?$/.test(yourString) would probably work[15:30:57] <icebox> soee: " ".trim() === ""[15:30:58] *** flyingrobot <flyingrobot!cc0b057d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.11.5.125> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[15:32:03] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: that is quite common[15:32:16] *** Poeticode <Poeticode!~Prophesi@host-68-169-169-183.VABOLT2.epbfi.com> has joined #angularjs[15:34:05] <Pyrrhus666> icebox: yeah. it´s often the pragmatic thing to do. and sometimes you find out the code you wrote, laden with debt it may be, is still running along fine.[15:35:15] <zomg> problem with having debt in our stuff is that it just becomes really hard to maintain and build new stuff[15:35:36] <zomg> the foundation was never laid properly so we need to do big refactors now which wastes time and keeps customers waiting on the promised new features[15:35:46] <zomg> yeah we might be able to slap some feature on a bit sloppily[15:35:49] <zomg> but the foundation needs to be good[15:36:11] <zomg> (ie. our core libraries)[15:36:14] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: as I said it is quite common... but I disagree[15:36:19] *** boann <boann!~BOANN@ip51ceb71a.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl> has joined #angularjs[15:36:43] <Pyrrhus666> icebox: I used to too :) now I´m on the pragmatic side...[15:36:51] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I second zomg: "but the foundation needs to be good", and generally speaking the code needs to be correct[15:37:04] <ngWalrus> I disagree with everyone[15:37:18] <Preuk> yes, but definition of "good" is not fixed[15:37:21] <Pyrrhus666> ngWalrus: how´s the hangover ;)[15:37:40] <icebox> Preuk: no... it is fixed... you know what is right or wrong[15:37:48] <icebox> Preuk: immediately[15:37:53] <Preuk> it changes as time passes, scope changes, and sall features start hoarding on said base[15:37:55] <bd-> i lean more towards the pragmatic than the 'correct' too, but then i'm pretty constrained on time/money/resources[15:38:21] <Pyrrhus666> icebox: your client doesn´t care as long as it is stable and works as expected. the idealist in me has died in the previous millennium ;)[15:38:28] <Preuk> on the pragmatic side, the best imho is to be able to rework some of the foundations as time goes, along other changes[15:38:53] <zomg> Preuk: that's true, but the problem is if the foundation is a ball of shit[15:38:58] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: and I burned the consultant in me :)[15:39:01] <zomg> then you need to be able to separate all the fiber from the rest[15:39:02] <zomg> :D[15:39:12] <Pyrrhus666> something someting good intentions :)[15:39:38] <zomg> by a good foundation / good base, it doesn't mean you need to build it to support all your future features[15:39:50] <Pyrrhus666> Preuk: +1. that´s what we did in a couple of iterations on old code.[15:39:54] <Preuk> zomg: then start molding this ball of metabolic residues to something vaguely modular[15:40:02] <zomg> if you build it for your current reqs, but following good engineering practices, it's gonna be a lot easier to extend in the future[15:40:06] <Preuk> and start externalizing stuff, brick by brick[15:40:12] *** naveenvalecha <naveenvalecha!~naveenval@unaffiliated/naveenvalecha> has quit IRC ()[15:40:18] <zomg> exactly[15:40:33] <icebox> agreed[15:40:59] <bd-> i've found in practice that even if you think carefully about all your current and future requirements... something will come up along the line you never thought of and you'll need to do a rewrite, or more work than would be worth it[15:41:04] <Preuk> that's what we're doing right now, migrating tiny bits of front code from GWT to ng2, the rest will follow in due time when "new" foundations are laid (while migrating the easy bits)[15:41:14] <Preuk> bd-: amen that[15:41:22] <zomg> bd-: yeah[15:41:25] <Pyrrhus666> bd-: yup[15:41:34] <zomg> the rewrite is gonna be a lot easier if you modularized your original code though[15:41:42] <Preuk> "i want a coffee pot" -> done[15:41:45] <zomg> you'll be able to keep using those parts which don't warrant change[15:41:54] <Preuk> "nice, but i like iced coffee too" -> done[15:42:03] *** PaulCapestany <PaulCapestany!~PaulCapes@2604:5500:17:2ea:54be:94ab:7e72:1328> has joined #angularjs[15:42:09] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@73.81.117.2> has joined #angularjs[15:42:18] <Preuk> 20 iterations later, you're no more building a coffee pot but a starbucks[15:42:19] <bd-> sometimes, but even writing codel ike that has it's own additional cost[15:42:26] <icebox> Preuk: :P[15:42:30] *** evilaliv3 <evilaliv3!~evilaliv3@212.91.95.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[15:42:49] <zomg> bd-: yeah, you don't usually need to think of modularity right off the bat because you don't need it[15:42:58] <zomg> hell you can write stuff into a single function a lot of the time[15:43:03] <zomg> and that's exactly what I do[15:43:10] <zomg> but then I write a new function which needs to do a part of that[15:43:15] <zomg> which is when I modularize =)[15:43:30] <zomg> or, not necessarily even modularize, but rather just create a new function into the same module[15:43:37] <Preuk> and then there is protoduction syndrome, if you don't account for it in your roadmap, you're done[15:43:38] <zomg> (which is not generally exported)[15:43:46] <icebox> once: copy&paste, twice: refactoring :)[15:43:47] <bd-> the time involved to copypaste old code and findreplace some bits is often smaller than the time to modularise it properly[15:44:07] *** soee <soee!~soee@user-164-127-151-70.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:44:20] <zomg> yeah that's because it was never built to support that[15:44:30] <ngWalrus> 15 minutes[15:44:32] <bd-> it's similar to gamedev... do you build a game or an engine[15:44:32] <zomg> I can see how that can be the case in systems using <script> tags and "dumb" bundling[15:44:42] <zomg> but I think modern bundling tools solve that problem[15:44:56] <zomg> instead of copy paste, new file amazing-module.js put your code in there, insert call to amazing-module.js[15:44:57] <bd-> game you end up with things tightly coupled, but you can do it all a lot quicker than coding for possibilities you may not even need[15:44:59] <zomg> done[15:45:17] <Preuk> business will only want us to release new stuff asap, bugfixing and refactoring is not something they can sell so they don't care. And at the end of the day, if you don't sell features, you're not paid[15:45:30] <bd-> zomg: yea but consider that wasn't really a thing 5 years[15:45:37] <bd-> and it probably won't be a thing in 5 years time, we'll have moved to something else[15:45:41] <Pyrrhus666> Preuk: yup[15:45:46] <zomg> Preuk: which is why you need a strong technical leader who can put things like that into a business perspective[15:45:49] <ngWalrus> we'll have moved away from js modules?[15:45:56] <bd-> probably[15:46:00] <zomg> bd-: yeah[15:46:23] <bd-> the rate ecosystems evolve it's quite tricky to build anything that won't be using old obsolete techniques in the future[15:46:32] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@73.81.117.2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[15:46:53] <Preuk> it boils down to "gotta pay the bills, gimme something new" vs. "make it right so support cost decreases by 50% but miss half of sale opportunities"[15:47:06] *** PaulCapestany <PaulCapestany!~PaulCapes@2604:5500:17:2ea:54be:94ab:7e72:1328> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:47:17] <ngWalrus> if you're writing javascript in 5 years you'll probably be using js modules[15:47:24] <zomg> Preuk: it rarely is as black and white as that :)[15:47:29] <bd-> but what type?[15:47:41] <bd-> we had amd, and then require and now import[15:47:44] <ngWalrus> since it is an upcoming js feature[15:47:44] <Pyrrhus666> zomg: for us it is. depends on where you operate...[15:47:47] <Preuk> zomg: sure, but that's the two extremes we're living between[15:47:51] <ngWalrus> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Statements/import[15:48:10] <bd-> in 5 years time there may well be something that supeceedes import modules[15:48:20] <zomg> Pyrrhus666: allocating time to improving the code doesn't mean allocating 100% of the time[15:48:21] *** PaulCapestany <PaulCapestany!~PaulCapes@2604:5500:17:2ea:54be:94ab:7e72:1328> has joined #angularjs[15:48:33] <bd-> maybe instead of js modules, using 'microservices' will be the 'correct' way to do things[15:48:36] <bd-> who knows[15:48:36] <Pyrrhus666> lets hop in 5 years there´s something that superseeds javascript.[15:48:44] <ngWalrus> ^[15:48:48] <zomg> Preuk: yeah, the balance needs to be found somewhere between the two[15:48:56] <Preuk> zomg: sure, but there are a lot of places where being able to improve stuff is a victory :)[15:49:25] *** tristanp <tristanp!~tristanp@c-73-19-36-48.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[15:49:27] <Pyrrhus666> zomg: the problem is nobody is willing to pay for that allocated time.[15:49:40] *** cyan__ <cyan__!~cyan@217.170.162.68> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:49:51] <Preuk> that's my current dilema... not even money-driven, but HR-limited :/[15:50:02] <zomg> Pyrrhus666: I get the feeling you might be lacking the leadership required for making the case then[15:50:29] <zomg> which is a problem with a lot of companies I think, especially those not traditionally dev oriented[15:50:51] *** rho <rho!~rho@drupal.org/user/114058/view> has joined #angularjs[15:50:56] <Preuk> I know what could be improved, what new stuff could be done, i can secure financing but it's so hard to find good hiring candidates :([15:50:56] *** rud <rud!~r@unaffiliated/rud> has quit IRC (Quit: rud)[15:51:13] <Pyrrhus666> zomg: that´s not my business, I just code. I get time allocated by someone else ;)[15:51:35] *** [1]David <[1]David!~David@cpc65147-nmal17-2-0-cust206.19-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #angularjs[15:51:42] <zomg> Pyrrhus666: exactly my point... it's gonna require someone to step up and stop "just coding"[15:52:20] *** joshontheweb <joshontheweb!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[15:52:22] <zomg> of course I get that not everyone might be interested in doing that but personally I think it's often worth it[15:52:36] <Preuk> zomg: that's a dangerous way to go, you might end managing instead of coding[15:52:45] *** jr3 <jr3!~jr3@172-124-11-222.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #angularjs[15:53:13] <Pyrrhus666> zomg: I have 40 hours a week to code, I get little to no time to do cleanup, no matter how good my case is. it´s often a matter of staying afloat as a company.[15:53:16] <zomg> Preuk: I doubt that, if they don't have someone already managing this then clearly they need the coders coding[15:53:24] <zomg> I mean yeah it's possible you'll end up doing *some* management[15:54:11] <Preuk> *some* quickly becomes *too much* for sanity[15:54:11] <zomg> Pyrrhus666: we're on a tricky balance with the same but I still get my way :D[15:54:16] *** joshonth_ <joshonth_!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has joined #angularjs[15:54:28] *** arne_ <arne_!~arne@p57852E78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #angularjs[15:54:32] *** arne_ is now known as Bish[15:54:49] <Bish> can somebody tell me if the angular material doc page is outdated, when it ocmes to dialogs?[15:54:53] <Pyrrhus666> zomg: then you´re luckier than me. the only times I get to do cleanup if is there´s no work (which can also be a tricky thing)[15:55:14] <zomg> Pyrrhus666: well you did say you just code, so if that's what you do then that's what you do :)[15:55:20] <Bish> https://material.angularjs.org/latest/demo/dialog <= this tells me to wrap my templates in a md-dialog container, but if i use it, there will be 2, killing each other[15:55:35] <zomg> Don't get me wrong - if that's what you enjoy the most and you don't really have a problem with the way things are in the company with this regard[15:55:41] <zomg> then that's fine[15:55:45] *** Debnet`Work <Debnet`Work!~Marc@48.86.2.93.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:55:45] <[1]David> Hey im creating a directive and trying to follow someone elses code. In bindToController they have '=?' i understand '=' but what does the ? do?[15:56:02] <zomg> What I mean is that you can do more than you think to affect the situation :)[15:56:05] *** Debnet <Debnet!~Marc@48.86.2.93.rev.sfr.net> has joined #angularjs[15:56:27] <zomg> For some reason a lot of devs seem to think they have to keep suffering with the terrible code they were given[15:56:43] <zomg> I don't think that's right at all and I've almost always worked in companies where the code was terrible to begin with[15:57:03] <Preuk> zomg: you're so right: let's make our followers suffer even more with our code :)[15:57:04] <Pyrrhus666> zomg: I have no aspirations to ´manage´. as it is, I often do the technical design (even in the sales-part), which I like, and after that I just code :)[15:57:59] *** siba <siba!~textual@60-242-28-48.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[15:58:10] <zomg> Pyrrhus666: basically what it just requires is being able to talk to managers and convince them, it doesn't actually require you to manage anything (except you might fall into a team lead type position by accident, but that generally doesn't involve management either unless you want to)[15:58:13] <Pyrrhus666> zomg: over time though, that means pragmatic coding (as things come along nobody though of, as bd- said) because the client wants instant coffee, uh, gratification.[15:58:50] <Pyrrhus666> zomg: no teams here. 2 programmers, each with their own projects. my technical debt is wholly my own ;)[15:59:08] <Pyrrhus666> and one manager/sales person. and one designer.[15:59:19] <zomg> yeah by team lead I mean a sort of senior / go to guy for any problems[15:59:38] *** naveenvalecha <naveenvalecha!~naveenval@unaffiliated/naveenvalecha> has joined #angularjs[15:59:57] <Pyrrhus666> zomg: I have my colleague for rubber ducking, and vice-versa :)[16:00:01] *** bytespirit <bytespirit!~bytespiri@5.79.74.141> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[16:00:27] <zomg> ya[16:01:02] *** ndury <ndury!5bb795ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.183.149.238> has joined #angularjs[16:01:38] <zomg> we've got a few devs and some design peeps (who mostly work on customer production stuff)[16:01:46] <zomg> I'm the CTO but I spent the majority of my time coding[16:01:49] <Pyrrhus666> I wouldn´t actually mind a sort of senior position or being that go-to guy for a larger team. troubleshooting and thinking about solutions are the most enjoyable parts of my work :)[16:01:58] <zomg> my role mostly involves just being a go to between the dev stuff and the CEO :P[16:02:16] *** sumitsrv <sumitsrv!~androirc@1.39.20.6> has joined #angularjs[16:02:21] <Pyrrhus666> zomg: sounds like a pretty cool position to be in actually.[16:02:51] <zomg> yeah[16:03:03] <zomg> I'm involved a lot in dealing with the sort of product design issues[16:03:03] <ndury> Guys i got something weird going on.. Not sure if you'll be able to help but i'm quite sure it's angular related. This is my use case: I'm using a debian virtual machine on a win7 host to do some web developement, i have a Django API front end controller by angularJS. When I open the link to the local address in my host box I can reach the website but it returns "Controller is not a function, got undefined". When opening the websit[16:03:09] <ndury> whatsoever and the controller is fully functional[16:03:10] <zomg> that's probably the biggest time sink outside of coding[16:03:13] <ndury> What exactly is going on???[16:03:16] *** dcherman <dcherman!~dcherman@164.55.254.106> has joined #angularjs[16:03:31] <zomg> but if you like building software then you would probably like product design stuff too, which is basically just "okay our customers wanna do this, how can we best put it into our app"[16:03:57] <Bish> we won't be talking about angular here any time soon, right?[16:04:07] <Pyrrhus666> zomg: that reminds me that when I graduated my prof actually mentioned me being the goto guy. because I graduated 2 years late by helping everybody else (plus I didn´t really want to gradaute)[16:04:16] <zomg> Bish: I saw your question but unfortunately I have no idea about material :)[16:04:47] <zomg> Pyrrhus666: heh :)[16:04:49] *** abhinav <abhinav!~Abijith@unaffiliated/abhinav> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:04:52] *** amundj <amundj!~textual@185.13.92.20> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[16:05:41] <Pyrrhus666> [1]David: it means the binding is optional and doesn´t have to exist[16:06:10] <[1]David> Pyrrhus666: cool thanks[16:06:39] <ndury> Has nobody encountered this issue before? I'm totally baffled.[16:07:25] *** ekinmur <ekinmur!~ekinmur@va01.cvent.com> has joined #angularjs[16:07:33] <zomg> ndury: I think your message cut off at "When opening the websit"[16:07:33] *** map_reduce <map_reduce!~arek@89-74-37-28.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #angularjs[16:07:37] <Pyrrhus666> ndury: your (long) question got cut off for me[16:07:42] <Preuk> Bish: i guess so[16:07:48] *** bsrd <bsrd!~ukk@0133902281.0.fullrate.ninja> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[16:07:51] <ndury> I'll rephrase[16:08:02] <map_reduce> did everyone move to ng2 yet[16:08:04] <map_reduce> ?[16:08:47] *** shinnya <shinnya!~shinnya@245.144.137.133.dy.bbexcite.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:09:07] <ndury> I'm not 100% sure my question is angularJS related but i'll go for it. Use case: I'm programming on a deb8 VM on a win7 host. I have a Django API back-end, front-end is handled by angularJS. When I open the link to the site on my host box I can reach the website just fine but getting an error message "Controller is not a function, got undefined". When opening the site on deb8 VM I get no errors whatsoever and site is fully function[16:09:09] <zomg> map_reduce: nope[16:09:21] <zomg> ndury: it still got cut off :D "site is fully function"[16:09:24] <Pyrrhus666> ndury: still cut off.[16:09:32] <ndury> derp.[16:09:35] <zomg> ndury: just type out the rest into another message[16:09:40] *** edrocks <edrocks!~edrocks@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:09:48] <ndury> I'm not 100% sure my question is angularJS related but i'll go for it. Use case: I'm programming on a deb8 VM on a win7 host. I have a Django API back-end, front-end is handled by angularJS. When I open the link to the site on my host box I can reach the website just fine but getting an error message "Controller is not a function, got undefined". When opening the site on deb8 VM I get no errors whatsoever and site is fully function[16:09:51] <ndury> What is going on here?[16:09:58] <ndury> That's the entire question.[16:10:12] *** mischat_ <mischat_!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:10:21] <Pyrrhus666> still cut off at ´fully function´. its an IRC limit I guess[16:10:23] <zomg> so let me see if I understood this correctly[16:10:32] <Bish> Preuk: how comes?[16:10:32] <zomg> you have a VM on your computer and the stuff is running there[16:10:48] <zomg> connecting via the host machine using http://vm-ip-address/ it doesn't work[16:10:52] <ndury> zomg:correct[16:10:55] <zomg> but when inside the vm, using http://localhost/ it works?[16:10:57] <ndury> zomg:incorrect, it does work[16:11:13] <ndury> zomg: the site is 100% reachable and displayed on host/vm.[16:11:27] <zomg> ok so when does it not work?[16:11:27] <ndury> zomg: The issue is, on the deb8 vm the site + angularJS is fully functional, it is not on the host.[16:11:53] <zomg> yes, so using it from inside the vm, it works? but not from outside the vm?[16:11:53] *** marc_v92 <marc_v92!~marc_v92@unaffiliated/marc-v92/x-6202358> has joined #angularjs[16:12:00] <ndury> zomg: yes.[16:12:14] <icebox> and displaying "Controller is not a function, got undefined"?[16:12:15] <marc_v92> Having an issue using ngModel with a contenteditable divs...I've got a number of them on one page, and I'm using this snippet: http://dpaste.com/26FG4SC[16:12:24] <ndury> Tried in both chrome/FF[16:12:28] <zomg> ndury: that could indicate that one of your script files isn't loading[16:12:29] <marc_v92> All of the contenteditable elements are pointing to different ngModel objects.[16:12:51] <marc_v92> But when I type into ANY of the divs, ALL of the contenteditable divs on the page update with the value I'm typing.[16:12:55] <ndury> If i look in the django logs all sites/scripts are loaded with a 200 OK response status.[16:12:57] <zomg> ndury: for example, if your files are served with the full host, then obviously trying to load with localhost/to/to/script won't work outside of the VM[16:13:16] *** angularjsNewb <angularjsNewb!4eacc2cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.172.194.204> has joined #angularjs[16:13:29] <marc_v92> I've managed to work out that "ctrl.$render" is firing for every single item, even when only one is updating. It seems the "link" function is not creating new controller instances for each item, but rather sharing one across all.[16:13:39] <angularjsNewb> hi pals looking for a typeahead solution, what do you use[16:13:51] <zomg> ndury: other than that, pretty hard to say... you could try using console.log to dump out some of the relevant values and see how they differ between host and vm[16:14:16] <marc_v92> I've been fighting this for like 6 hours overall now, about to rip my hair out, lol. Any ideas on how I can fix this?[16:14:28] <Pyrrhus666> angularjsNewb: ui-bootstrap´s typeahead.[16:14:42] *** raijin <raijin!~raijin@unaffiliated/raijin> has joined #angularjs[16:15:15] <Pyrrhus666> angularjsNewb: https://angular-ui.github.io/bootstrap/#/typeahead[16:15:24] <angularjsNewb> thx[16:15:26] <ndury> zomg: I think that's where the issue lies, I have a NavbarController which works just fine in the VM. the .js file get's fetched by the browser correctly (as far as i can see, returning a HTTP 200 OK). however the js/layout/navbar.controller.js is returned with a HTTP 200 OK aswell yet I get angularJS error: "NavbarController is not a function, got undefined".[16:16:11] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@216.1.23.10> has joined #angularjs[16:16:57] *** evilaliv3 <evilaliv3!~evilaliv3@212.91.95.170> has joined #angularjs[16:17:25] <Elarcis> great, I woke up two hours earlier this morning, but I'll only be able to leave one hour earlier[16:17:31] <Elarcis> I've been conned[16:17:54] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: the cake was a lie, and there was no spoon...[16:18:11] <Elarcis> fucking """""expertise"""""[16:18:54] <Elarcis> he left me with a half assed wip concept that ignores half our needs, I'm stuck and I have more and more to do at the same time[16:19:29] <Preuk> Pyrrhus666: you forgot to add that Han shot first[16:19:45] <Pyrrhus666> Preuk: oh god, how could I... thx :)[16:20:00] <Preuk> you're welcome[16:20:04] *** jrdnmdhl <jrdnmdhl!3f50e142@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.80.225.66> has joined #angularjs[16:20:19] <Elarcis> I'm definitely going to be the first to shoot someone[16:20:42] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[16:21:29] * Pyrrhus666 reminds himself to check for work-related shootings in france later.[16:21:41] <Elarcis> It's ok that I only have 2 years of experience. I disagree but I listen to what seniors have to say and do what they say, tell them if something's objectively wrong in their doing[16:22:10] <zomg> ndury: yep, maybe check if the same file gets fetched at all on the host?[16:22:18] *** nishu-tryinghard <nishu-tryinghard!~nishanth@183.82.99.106> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:22:32] <Elarcis> but hell, give me a few more years of experience, I'll tell that guy to fuck off with his madness and my opinion will at last have more weight[16:22:46] *** Harsha <Harsha!a5e16840@gateway/web/freenode/ip.165.225.104.64> has joined #angularjs[16:23:09] <Harsha> i need help on isolated scopes in a custom directives[16:23:12] <Elarcis> what point is there in providing a design if 0% of the dev team can use it, or even build on it?[16:23:17] <ndury> zomg: just diffed both files, 100% identical[16:23:23] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has joined #angularjs[16:23:30] <Elarcis> Hi Harsha , what's your issue?[16:23:51] <icebox> Elarcis: I remember you you are busy :)[16:23:53] <zomg> ndury: strange. Could it be a timing issue with file loading?[16:24:02] *** vuoto <vuoto!~vuoto@n9pl7d.static.netgroup.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:24:06] <ndury> zomg: not sure, i'll look into that.[16:24:08] <Elarcis> icebox: I'm not, I've finished my day and am waiting 40min at least for a phone call[16:24:12] <Harsha> i have a md-tab with custom directive in loop.Means tab gonna generate with same directive template[16:24:25] <Elarcis> icebox: I'm done with my task, I can't mentally work on it for now[16:24:33] <icebox> Elarcis: :P[16:24:33] <Harsha> when i change any element in one tab it is reflecting in all the tabs[16:25:09] <Elarcis> Harsha: is that the expected behavior, or the issue?[16:25:17] <icebox> ah... usually here in the channel we deal with the opposite issue... changes are not propagated :)[16:25:30] <Harsha> expected behaviour is different tabs different scopes[16:25:41] <Elarcis> Harsha: if all tabs have the same template, are you sure you're actually changing the tab? :D[16:25:46] <Harsha> i will save data invidually tab wise[16:25:54] <Harsha> yes[16:25:57] *** eago <eago!~eago@CPEbc4dfbf3d093-CMbc4dfbf3d090.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined #angularjs[16:26:01] *** edrocks <edrocks!~edrocks@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has joined #angularjs[16:26:15] <Elarcis> Harsha: is your data in the tab's parent scope? I suppose it is not since you've mentionned isolated scope[16:27:01] <Harsha> <md-tabs md-selected="settings.childSelectedIndex" md-border-bottom> <md-tab ng-repeat="tab in tabs" label="{{tab.title}}"> <div style="padding: 25px; text-align: center;"> <reg-Tab data="tabData"></reg-Tab> <md-button class="md-fab md-fab-bottom-middle" aria-label[16:27:11] <Elarcis> Harsha: no code in the chat please, this is not exploitable[16:27:22] <Harsha> angular.module('app') .directive('regTab', function(profileService,$http, $state, $timeout, $rootScope) { //debugger; return { restrict: 'E', scope: { data: '=' }, replace: true, templateUrl: 'app/components/shared/tab-template.html', link: function(scope, elem, attrs) {[16:27:23] <Elarcis> Harsha: use pastebin instead, or better, you can try setting up a plunkr[16:27:36] <Harsha> okay okay[16:27:42] <Elarcis> Harsha: look at it, no one can read that XD[16:27:54] <Harsha> :([16:28:05] *** Arunkumar <Arunkumar!31cd9c3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.205.156.59> has joined #angularjs[16:28:49] <Harsha> i will try to make a plunkar example[16:28:50] <icebox> Harsha: the point you are using the same template for all the tabs[16:28:56] <Harsha> yes[16:28:58] <Arunkumar> difference between this and scope[16:29:18] <jrdnmdhl> Hi all! I'm working on an angular 2 app with multiple module, one of which has basic components/services/classes to be used throughout the other modules. In app module, I have imported this secondary module, but not sure how to get the service(s) from the secondary module injected into the app module.[16:29:26] *** Garfield-fr <Garfield-fr!~Garfield-@unaffiliated/garfield-fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com)[16:29:35] <jrdnmdhl> I am on RC6 atm[16:29:52] <Elarcis> Arunkumar: About 22,200,000 results (0.54 seconds)[16:29:53] <Harsha> icebox: Yes[16:30:09] <icebox> Harsha: so that is the expected behavior[16:30:28] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@216.1.23.10> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:30:37] <Elarcis> Arunkumar: I mean of course the idea is to go straight to the point, but 'hi', proper sentences and 'please' are always appreciated[16:30:51] <icebox> Harsha: what is your aim?[16:31:03] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@109.109.143.238> has joined #angularjs[16:31:07] <Harsha> icebox: Individual tab save[16:31:21] <icebox> Harsha: no... what is your functional aim?[16:31:24] <Elarcis> Arunkumar: anyway, when using controllerAs, all the scope's content is put into this[16:31:41] <Harsha> icebox: but when i change any dropdown in one tab it not to be reflected in other tabs[16:32:01] *** joshonth_ <joshonth_!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[16:32:03] <Elarcis> Arunkumar: which makes injecting $scope unnecessary in most (good practices using) controllers, and allows controllers to be classes and be written nicely[16:32:18] *** davi-lima <davi-lima!~Davi@191.250.192.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:32:27] <icebox> Harsha: no... sorry, I don't follow you... please, provide a minimal working plunker reproducing your request[16:32:29] *** aniketh_ <aniketh_!uid171160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ksmpjovckozhnnjr> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[16:32:33] *** rud <rud!~r@unaffiliated/rud> has joined #angularjs[16:32:39] <Harsha> icebox: okay[16:32:44] <Arunkumar> thanks for your reply, when i use type script means that is difficult ot understand[16:32:54] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence.cluster-d.websense.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:33:11] <Arunkumar> thank you Elarcis.[16:33:12] *** ndury <ndury!5bb795ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.183.149.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:33:21] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@85.115.60.180> has joined #angularjs[16:33:40] <Elarcis> Arunkumar: are you using ng1 ou 2?[16:33:44] <icebox> coder_2014: always in the channel, not in private messages :) otherwise you need to send me a paycheck :)[16:33:46] <Elarcis> *or 2, sorry[16:33:50] *** Arunkumar <Arunkumar!31cd9c3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.205.156.59> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[16:33:55] <Elarcis> plfffrt[16:35:08] <icebox> coder_2014: changing the loader doesn't change the game[16:35:35] <icebox> coder_2014: the diff it is if you are used for one or for another[16:36:00] <Elarcis> icebox: heh, they could switch for one that is more intuitive[16:36:24] <icebox> Elarcis: yep[16:37:03] *** lihaibh <lihaibh!~lihaibh@bzq-82-80-134-76.static.bezeqint.net> has joined #angularjs[16:37:40] <Elarcis> icebox: like... wwwwweeeeeeeeeeeb...sorry, can't remember the name, webcrate or something[16:38:19] <icebox> Harsha: I think there you missed md-tabs + ng-switch... I mean, one tab / one view / one controller per view[16:38:20] *** Harsha <Harsha!a5e16840@gateway/web/freenode/ip.165.225.104.64> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[16:38:27] *** joshontheweb <joshontheweb!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has joined #angularjs[16:38:35] <icebox> Elarcis: webpack?[16:39:14] <Elarcis> icebox: that can't be right[16:39:51] <icebox> Elarcis: the name?[16:40:10] <Elarcis> icebox: nvm[16:40:44] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has joined #angularjs[16:40:53] *** heartburn <heartburn!~heartburn@213.21.33.24> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:41:10] *** ekinmur <ekinmur!~ekinmur@va01.cvent.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[16:41:19] *** jsightler_afk is now known as jsightler[16:41:43] *** RangerRick <RangerRick!~quassel@cpe-65-190-131-207.nc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:42:09] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:42:24] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has joined #angularjs[16:42:48] *** ekinmur <ekinmur!~ekinmur@va01.cvent.com> has joined #angularjs[16:43:40] *** nadoneves <nadoneves!~Thunderbi@177.131.144.72> has joined #angularjs[16:43:50] <icebox> it seems requesting a plunker is an entry barrier getting help... suggestions?[16:44:54] *** heartburn <heartburn!~heartburn@213.21.33.24> has joined #angularjs[16:45:01] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@216.1.23.10> has joined #angularjs[16:45:09] <angrybacon> I hate plnkr, codepend is maybe less scary[16:45:12] <angrybacon> codepen[16:45:31] <zomg> What about jsfiddle?[16:45:52] <zomg> plnkr and codepen are both a bit fiddly imo, plnkr in particular seems to have a UI that confuses people[16:46:06] * SaltyCatFish wonders if he dc'd[16:46:13] <angrybacon> Codepen recently added completion with ctrl+spc btw[16:46:14] <icebox> well... plunker, codepen or jsfiddle or whatever... it seems requesting a working minimal live snippet is an entry barrier[16:46:18] *** pimlu <pimlu!~pimlu@128.172.35.9> has joined #angularjs[16:46:35] * SaltyCatFish realizes he has not, he paged up a while ago and forgot[16:46:43] *** rocktop_ <rocktop_!~rocktop@105.158.17.36> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:46:46] <zomg> icebox: eh, then that's really the person's fault who's too lazy to do that :p[16:46:48] <angrybacon> entry barrier to?[16:46:59] <icebox> getting help[16:47:10] <jrdnmdhl> Hi all! I'm working on an angular 2 app with multiple module, one of which has basic components/services/classes to be used throughout the other modules. In app module, I have imported this secondary module, but not sure how to get the service(s) from the secondary module injected into the app module.. Currently on RC6.[16:47:17] <zomg> if a problem is too difficult to describe to the level of getting an answer without a live example[16:47:18] <icebox> zomg: yes (and no)[16:47:24] <zomg> then I don't think the problem can be solved without a live example[16:47:29] <angrybacon> Well other, than remote controlling the guy's machine I don't think that's avoidable[16:47:32] *** davi-lima <davi-lima!~Davi@191.250.192.76> has joined #angularjs[16:47:43] <Preuk> i must say, being quite noob with angular, that for this kind of big setup, extracting a minimal example is daunting; i didn't even understand half of what the quickstart asked me to configure at first[16:47:44] <zomg> you can certainly try educated guesses or guiding the asked verbally to provide more useful descriptions[16:47:49] <angrybacon> No idea why I put that comma though[16:47:51] <zomg> or give them steps they can follow to debug it themselves[16:47:56] <zomg> but that's pretty time consuming[16:48:15] <angrybacon> zomg They'll just go and ask over ##javascript then[16:48:19] <zomg> Preuk: pretty much yeah[16:48:27] *** m8 <m8!~m8@unaffiliated/m8> has joined #angularjs[16:48:29] <zomg> angrybacon: and on ##javascript they'll be told !xy and !paste[16:48:52] *** cacts|works <cacts|works!~cactus@209.116.186.146> has joined #angularjs[16:48:54] <zomg> or whatever the bot command was for "provide a code sample that works"[16:49:20] <zomg> Preuk: I've been meaning to write more about debugging[16:49:30] <zomg> because a lot of people don't seem to really know how to do that efficiently[16:49:43] <icebox> jrdnmdhl: update to final and use ngmodules[16:50:25] *** eago <eago!~eago@CPEbc4dfbf3d093-CMbc4dfbf3d090.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:50:52] <coder_2014> icebox: ok sorry about that[16:51:08] <icebox> coder_2014: no problem... you get more help in the channel :)[16:51:24] <jrdnmdhl> icebox: in final, do I get access to the components, services, etc... just by importing the module then?[16:51:59] <icebox> jrdnmdhl: yes[16:53:04] <icebox> jrdnmdhl: https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/guide/ngmodule.html[16:53:34] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:53:44] *** RangerRick <RangerRick!~quassel@cpe-65-190-131-207.nc.res.rr.com> has joined #angularjs[16:53:45] *** donguston <donguston!~AdamPC@cpc12-sprt2-2-0-cust478.17-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:53:56] *** marc_v92 <marc_v92!~marc_v92@unaffiliated/marc-v92/x-6202358> has quit IRC (Quit: Probably either lunch time or home time.)[16:54:11] *** Debnet`Work <Debnet`Work!~Marc@smtp2.sa-cim.fr> has joined #angularjs[16:54:13] <pyios> is this channel talking angular1 or angular2?[16:54:18] <icebox> so... do you think it is legit asking for live snippet?[16:54:22] <icebox> pyios: yes, it is[16:54:35] *** F1LT3R <F1LT3R!~F1LT3R@50.234.75.70> has joined #angularjs[16:54:36] <pyios> 1 or 2?[16:54:40] <icebox> pyios: both[16:54:45] <pyios> ok[16:55:23] <pyios> angular2 is published . so should I migrate my project from angular1 to angular2 ?[16:56:15] <icebox> pyios: yes, but that depends on your project... architecture, team skills, due date and so on... and why?[16:56:46] *** Foxandxss <Foxandxss!~textual@angularjs/member/foxandxss> has joined #angularjs[16:56:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Foxandxss[16:56:51] <pyios> so typescript will replace javascript ?[16:56:54] <bd-> unless you have a reason to migrate, i wouldn't bother otherwise[16:57:12] *** Vipul_ <Vipul_!3d1081f2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.61.16.129.242> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:57:17] <icebox> pyios: no... you may use angular 2 also with ES2015[16:57:27] *** map_reduce <map_reduce!~arek@89-74-37-28.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:57:30] *** Debnet <Debnet!~Marc@48.86.2.93.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:57:30] <coder_2014> icebox: should I see the ag-grid dependencies under the /vendor/ folder ??[16:57:36] <pyios> icebox: why[16:57:42] *** mrsilva <mrsilva!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:58:00] <icebox> coder_2014: I don't think so... that lib should be in node_modules[16:58:12] <icebox> coder_2014: if you are using npm...[16:58:32] <icebox> pyios: why? I second bd-'s comment[16:58:36] *** Pyrrhus666 <Pyrrhus666!~Pyrrhus66@095-097-155-024.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:58:40] *** mangolisk <mangolisk!~mangolisk@S0106848dc7ebaa06.vc.shawcable.net> has joined #angularjs[16:58:49] <icebox> off... bye[16:58:56] <coder_2014> icebox: I mean when it gets transpiled from .ts to .js so it's understood by the browser...[16:59:02] *** RangerRick <RangerRick!~quassel@cpe-65-190-131-207.nc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[16:59:15] <icebox> coder_2014: that depends on your configuration :)[16:59:45] <coder_2014> well, given that my configuration is not working... that's why I'm asking[16:59:45] <icebox> coder_2014: if the file are concatenated in one file in the folder vendor[16:59:47] <Preuk> any idea why an external module (ng2-page-slider) is suddently refusing to compiler, either with tsc or ngc?[17:00:04] *** cacts|WAS <cacts|WAS!~cactus@c-174-51-80-218.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[17:00:12] <coder_2014> I see other folders there i.e. @angular, but I don't see the ag-grid one[17:00:23] <icebox> coder_2014: that is a problem[17:00:26] *** rscata <rscata!~cata@5.2.202.145> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:00:29] *** donguston <donguston!~AdamPC@cpc12-sprt2-2-0-cust478.17-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #angularjs[17:00:38] *** gain_ <gain_!~Gianni@101.9.61.188.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has joined #angularjs[17:00:52] <icebox> coder_2014: but I have no idea because it is "vendor" and not "node_modules"[17:01:00] <icebox> bye[17:01:05] *** icebox <icebox!5e5fe874@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.95.232.116> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[17:01:20] *** poosanth <poosanth!prasanthv@nat/ibm/x-eqohhwzmaiqzlslm> has joined #angularjs[17:01:24] *** zorgate <zorgate!90a0e25f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.160.226.95> has joined #angularjs[17:01:25] *** RangerRick <RangerRick!~quassel@cpe-65-190-131-207.nc.res.rr.com> has joined #angularjs[17:01:31] *** xcesariox <xcesariox!~xcesariox@103.252.203.32> has joined #angularjs[17:01:38] *** poosanth <poosanth!prasanthv@nat/ibm/x-eqohhwzmaiqzlslm> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:01:39] <coder_2014> well, as far as I know typescript code gets transpiled to javascript and it's placed into the /dist/ folder[17:01:44] <pyios> how do I make a component behaviour as a directive ?[17:01:49] <coder_2014> third party libraries are placed under /dist/vendor[17:02:03] *** naveenvalecha <naveenvalecha!~naveenval@unaffiliated/naveenvalecha> has quit IRC ()[17:02:13] <Elarcis> pyios: you mean you want to convert a directive into a component, or the opposite?[17:02:44] <pyios> Elarcis: component could be a directive ,isn;t it ?[17:02:56] <Foxandxss> a component IS a directive[17:03:00] <Elarcis> ^[17:03:01] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:03:14] *** poosanth <poosanth!prasanthv@nat/ibm/x-omhsfexfrcrxtqzl> has joined #angularjs[17:03:23] <Elarcis> pyios: a component in angular1 is just a preset for a directive, to simplify stuff[17:03:35] <Preuk> coder_2014: don't know if it wwsas meant as an answer to my problem, but you at least gave me something to try[17:03:44] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has joined #angularjs[17:03:45] *** eago <eago!~eago@CPEbc4dfbf3d093-CMbc4dfbf3d090.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined #angularjs[17:03:46] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:04:10] <pyios> Elarcis: what is the exact meaning of preset[17:04:32] *** PitPanda1 <PitPanda1!~patrick.b@p57978573.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[17:04:35] <Elarcis> pyios: most of the directive's config is preset[17:04:48] <pyios> how to config[17:04:50] <Elarcis> pyios: like 'set ahead of the coder'[17:05:00] <pyios> how it is configed?[17:05:07] <coder_2014> Preuk: I'm glad I did, I didn't mean to answer your question but I hope you've got more luck than me[17:05:09] *** greengriminal <greengriminal!~greengrim@206.47.143.138> has joined #angularjs[17:05:20] <Elarcis> pyios: well it's angular that defines it, but you can always override it like for any directive[17:05:28] <Elarcis> pyios: (although it's often recommended not to)[17:05:42] <Elarcis> pyios: have you read angular's doc regarding components? It's quite helpful to understand better what components are[17:05:51] <pyios> Elarcis: i.e: ngfor?[17:05:56] <Preuk> coder_2014: i'm struggling with a module provided as npm dependency that usualy refuses to transpile, i understadn your pain[17:05:58] <Elarcis> pyios: please remember though, that components are not made to replace completely directives[17:06:12] *** sumitsrv <sumitsrv!~androirc@1.39.20.6> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[17:06:21] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has joined #angularjs[17:06:49] <Elarcis> pyios: components should be seen as layout bricks, adding a widget, showing stuff. directives should be seen as adding a behavior to an element[17:07:21] *** rho <rho!~rho@drupal.org/user/114058/view> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:07:24] *** bayousoft <bayousoft!~textual@130.70.12.3> has joined #angularjs[17:07:49] *** jimklo <jimklo!~jimklo@192.12.16.110> has joined #angularjs[17:07:55] <pyios> I find that angular ,component can set selector to be a directive’s name[17:08:05] <pyios> in angular2[17:08:17] *** eago <eago!~eago@CPEbc4dfbf3d093-CMbc4dfbf3d090.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:08:18] <Elarcis> pyios: yes, although it's not recommended[17:08:55] <Elarcis> pyios: you could see components as stuff that could select a specific tag name, like <my-component></my-component>[17:09:19] <Elarcis> pyios: and directives as stuff that could select attributes, like <my-component my-directive></my-component>[17:09:26] *** Limarson1 <Limarson1!~marcel.cr@p57978573.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[17:09:30] <pyios> is my-component here called directive?[17:09:33] *** Limarson <Limarson!~marcel.cr@p57978573.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #angularjs[17:09:51] <Elarcis> pyios: no, it's a component[17:10:08] <Elarcis> pyios: my-directive is a directive[17:10:12] <pyios> soory ,i got confused of them[17:10:28] <pyios> here my-directive used for what[17:10:31] <Elarcis> pyios: ok ,you shouldn't migrate to ng2 yet then[17:10:35] *** shinnya <shinnya!~shinnya@245.144.137.133.dy.bbexcite.jp> has joined #angularjs[17:11:11] <Elarcis> pyios: try to get up to speed with current angular 1.5 concepts and components, then in a few weeks/months, you can consider upgrading your app :)[17:11:46] <pyios> good plan[17:11:57] <Elarcis> pyios: I dunno, changing the background color of any element it is attached to, i.e.[17:12:08] <Elarcis> pyios: or logging every user click on the component[17:12:30] <Elarcis> pyios: a directive defines a reusable behavior that's not related to the layout[17:12:32] *** joshontheweb <joshontheweb!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:12:49] <Elarcis> pyios: a component defines a reusable piece of layout[17:13:24] <Elarcis> pyios: a breadcrumb is a component, a widget is a component, your main menu is a component[17:13:33] <pyios> copy that[17:14:16] <Elarcis> pyios: a tooltip is a directive, a cursor-changing utility is a directive, something that hides-shows your element (like ngIf) is a directive[17:14:50] *** joshontheweb <joshontheweb!~joshonthe@223.205.206.206> has joined #angularjs[17:14:52] *** zerd <zerd!~quassel@bat.slash.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[17:15:16] <jrdnmdhl> icebox: I have updated to angular2 final, my app module is now importing the secondary modules, but it is not finding the components/services from there: 'Cannot find name[17:15:37] <jrdnmdhl> The secondary module does export the components/services I am trying to use[17:15:42] *** george_v <george_v!~george_v@193.92.17.194.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:15:53] <jrdnmdhl> (they are in the exports array in the ngmodule decorator[17:16:06] *** tarnus <tarnus!~tarnus@2602:306:ccaa:9790:c910:2dcb:557b:3730> has quit IRC ()[17:16:22] <Elarcis> jrdnmdhl: if you want to use your services from outside their module, you have not only to import your secondary module into your main one, but import the services classes as well in the files you want to use them in :)[17:16:59] <jrdnmdhl> also true of the components?[17:17:00] *** fixl <fixl!~fixl@46.166.188.233> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:17:01] <Elarcis> jrdnmdhl: or import them in your module and put it into the providers property of it, I don't know, I'm not there yet[17:17:11] <Elarcis> jrdnmdhl: I don't think so for components, no[17:18:49] *** bakirelived <bakirelived!~msilva@mailpri.hubel.pt> has joined #angularjs[17:19:26] *** zerd <zerd!~quassel@bat.slash.no> has joined #angularjs[17:19:47] *** plutoniix <plutoniix!~q@118.174.204.82> has joined #angularjs[17:19:59] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@216.1.23.10> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:20:16] *** djboz <djboz!~djboz@216.1.23.10> has joined #angularjs[17:21:18] *** squeaky-clean <squeaky-clean!~squeaky-c@162.213.148.250> has joined #angularjs[17:21:57] *** Germanaz0 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The module definitely has that services in the exports array[17:28:38] *** lavalamp <lavalamp!~lavalamp@unaffiliated/lavalamp> has joined #angularjs[17:29:24] *** mrded <mrded!~mrded@84.207.252.242> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:30:22] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@100-83-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[17:30:32] *** mrded <mrded!~mrded@84.207.252.242> has joined #angularjs[17:31:16] *** eago <eago!~eago@CPEbc4dfbf3d093-CMbc4dfbf3d090.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined #angularjs[17:31:29] *** mrded <mrded!~mrded@84.207.252.242> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:31:50] *** Roeefl <Roeefl!Roeefl@37.142.202.220> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[17:32:02] *** mrded <mrded!~mrded@84.207.252.242> has joined #angularjs[17:32:11] *** Bish <Bish!~arne@p57852E78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[17:32:39] *** nadoneves1 <nadoneves1!~Thunderbi@200.142.120.210> has joined #angularjs[17:32:45] *** poosanth <poosanth!prasanthv@nat/ibm/x-omhsfexfrcrxtqzl> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[17:33:37] *** shinnya <shinnya!~shinnya@245.144.137.133.dy.bbexcite.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:34:16] <ries> Is it in general a good idea that a directive handles it’s own resource calls to get data from the server, or is it a better idea to give it a datasource with it’s data?[17:34:17] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[17:34:20] *** mastokley <mastokley!~mastokley@71.35.179.178> has joined #angularjs[17:36:24] *** edrocks <edrocks!~edrocks@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[17:36:30] *** nadoneves <nadoneves!~Thunderbi@177.131.144.72> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:36:30] *** nadoneves1 is now known as nadoneves[17:36:38] <Elarcis> seeya[17:36:42] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@85.115.60.180> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:36:43] *** F1LT3R <F1LT3R!~F1LT3R@50.234.75.70> has joined #angularjs[17:36:59] *** arnas <arnas!~arnas@88-119-97-225.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[17:38:35] *** edrocks <edrocks!~edrocks@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has joined #angularjs[17:39:15] *** similian <similian!~ternai@p5098ef89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #angularjs[17:39:20] <jrdnmdhl> If anyone could help w/ exporting components/services from one module to another, that would be appreciated. I am currently getting error messages of '<myModule> has not exported member <myComponent>. The module I am importing from has those components/services in its exports array in the decorator. I am on angular2 final[17:39:26] *** Doginal <Doginal!~agriggs@unaffiliated/doginal> has joined #angularjs[17:39:29] *** rand0m <rand0m!~quassel@host86-139-27-149.range86-139.btcentralplus.com> has joined #angularjs[17:40:04] <similian> hello folks iam trying to refactor a component library to angular2.RC2 to angular2-final, yet it does not work -[17:40:19] *** akkonrad <akkonrad!~akkonrad3@gae109.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has left #angularjs ("Leaving")[17:40:34] <similian> the new angular introduced an additional module.ts[17:40:34] *** nadoneves1 <nadoneves1!~Thunderbi@177.131.144.72> has joined #angularjs[17:40:58] <similian> how would i change the quickstart project - so that it is exported as a lib[17:41:24] <similian> i created two component files and had them compiled before ( for version RC4)[17:41:29] <similian> (RC2)[17:41:37] <similian> posting the files ... sec[17:42:50] *** itamarjp <itamarjp!~itamar@fedora/itamarjp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:43:25] *** 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reset by peer)[18:04:47] *** vassagus_ <vassagus_!~vassagus@186.4.2.162> has joined #angularjs[18:04:48] *** RangerRick <RangerRick!~quassel@cpe-65-190-131-207.nc.res.rr.com> has joined #angularjs[18:05:41] *** sh1znc <sh1znc!~sh1znc@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-rwxcyphcfbreiutv> has left #angularjs ("Leaving")[18:05:45] *** vassagus_ <vassagus_!~vassagus@186.4.2.162> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:06:00] <Preuk> any idea why two subsequent ngc invocations (no change inbetween) have different results?[18:06:10] *** vassagus <vassagus!~vassagus@186.4.2.162> has joined #angularjs[18:06:22] *** nadoneves <nadoneves!~Thunderbi@177.131.144.72> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:06:54] <Preuk> first one is ok ,second one fails transpiling *ngfactory* from first build[18:07:00] *** Shilon <Shilon!~Shilon@a79-168-104-17.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #angularjs[18:07:18] *** senayar <senayar!~senayar@unaffiliated/senayar> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection 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I am attempting to build an incremental counter and for some reason the expressions are not working in page. here are the pastebins for the code:[18:21:23] *** fedenunez <fedenunez!~fede@r167-61-60-30.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy> has joined #angularjs[18:21:28] <cerbervs> http://pastebin.com/zuY9rVJ5[18:21:31] <cerbervs> http://pastebin.com/Ztud8Lx[18:22:05] *** dodobrain <dodobrain!~dodobrain@unaffiliated/freakabcd> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[18:22:25] *** blackwind_123 <blackwind_123!~IceChat9@117.192.145.198> has joined #angularjs[18:23:57] <cerbervs> and directory structure as I am using an npm installed version of angular 1.5.8: http://pastebin.com/XqMGJwC0[18:24:38] *** jhadvig <jhadvig!jhadvig@nat/redhat/x-kqqfmvzewmstqfgt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[18:25:02] <jdummy> cerbervs: another tip, if you put this together in a plunkr, it'll be *much* easier for someone to debug. Then they can do the work of assisting with debugging instead of the work of rebuilding your app[18:25:05] *** RangerRick <RangerRick!~quassel@cpe-65-190-131-207.nc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:25:38] <cerbervs> never heard of plunkr. I'll check it out right now[18:26:25] <AlexZan> wow when was Angular2 final released?[18:26:35] <jdummy> it can be a bit of a hassle to put together a "reduced test case" of your problem, but it's a hassle that either you or the person helping usually has to do[18:26:54] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@188.25.21.209> has joined #angularjs[18:27:06] <cerbervs> okay. let me put it together[18:27:52] *** RangerRick <RangerRick!~quassel@cpe-65-190-131-207.nc.res.rr.com> has joined #angularjs[18:28:41] *** jr3 <jr3!~jr3@172-124-11-222.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: jr3)[18:29:30] *** thevishy <thevishy!~thevishy@111.93.187.34> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:30:18] <cerbervs> https://plnkr.co/edit/fPKaNzqT2yU4pqUJ7DAj?p=info[18:30:32] *** romerocesar <romerocesar!~cesar@c-73-97-145-30.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[18:31:16] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@188.25.21.209> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[18:31:28] *** mastokley <mastokley!~mastokley@75-172-35-204.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #angularjs[18:31:30] <cerbervs> hopefully that helps[18:32:15] *** ansimation <ansimation!~textual@208.185.232.10> has joined #angularjs[18:36:46] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has joined #angularjs[18:37:56] *** ciroque <ciroque!~swagner@sea02-v600-nat.marchex.com> has joined #angularjs[18:40:04] *** PitPanda <PitPanda!~patrick.b@p57978573.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[18:41:34] *** mischat <mischat!~mischat@62.252.235.234> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:43:34] <jdummy> cerbervs: this works: https://plnkr.co/edit/Rgj9D7dsfnYxdPXQGO0t?p=preview[18:44:19] *** tomphp <tomphp!~tomphp@host81-149-57-43.in-addr.btopenworld.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[18:44:49] <jdummy> cerbervs: ng-app was missing - that's necessary for angular to bootstrap. There were a few other errors in the console that took some swirling around... but if you compare that plunkr to what you have you should be able to see the differences[18:45:07] *** llwt <llwt!~textual@c-73-164-149-125.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:46:45] *** evilaliv3 <evilaliv3!~evilaliv3@212.91.95.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[18:46:50] *** encryptd_fractal <encryptd_fractal!~encryptd_@c-24-245-47-249.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:48:38] *** heartburn <heartburn!~heartburn@213.21.33.24> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:48:41] *** fedenunez <fedenunez!~fede@r167-61-60-30.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[18:49:47] *** orionstein <orionstein!~orionstei@ec2-52-90-30-33.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:50:14] *** jiggerypokery <jiggerypokery!~jerome@host31-53-134-219.range31-53.btcentralplus.com> has joined #angularjs[18:50:16] *** mrded <mrded!~mrded@84.207.252.242> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:51:19] *** PitPanda <PitPanda!~patrick.b@p57978573.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #angularjs[18:51:28] *** orionstein <orionstein!~orionstei@ec2-52-90-30-33.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #angularjs[18:51:33] <jiggerypokery> hello, I'm debugging a directive (I don't know angular) and the ctrl.$viewValue is undefined[18:52:19] *** jr3 <jr3!~jr3@172-124-11-222.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #angularjs[18:52:25] <jiggerypokery> There are no assignments to ctrl.$viewValue in the directive. Is this something handled by the framework? What should it do/be?[18:52:27] *** davi-lima <davi-lima!~Davi@191.250.192.76> has joined #angularjs[18:53:18] *** kuadrosx_ is now known as kuadrosx[18:54:33] *** heartburn <heartburn!~heartburn@213.21.33.24> has joined #angularjs[19:01:48] *** erol_ <erol_!~erol@2a01:e35:2438:3ce0:82fa:5bff:fe15:214> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[19:03:20] *** angrybacon <angrybacon!~angrybaco@178.16.163.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:05:21] *** pimlu <pimlu!~pimlu@128.172.35.15> has joined #angularjs[19:06:12] *** PitPanda <PitPanda!~patrick.b@p57978573.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[19:06:17] *** milkman_ <milkman_!~milkman@80.146.168.122> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:07:05] <SaltyCatFish> Hello, unit testing with jasmine and karma. How can i call a function on a controller that isnt on its scope? 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ZZZzzz…)[19:43:05] *** moloch <moloch!~moloch@cpe-98-150-237-205.hawaii.res.rr.com> has joined #angularjs[19:44:43] *** gvhoecke <gvhoecke!~gvhoecke@106.195-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.3 - http://znc.in)[19:45:34] <jdummy> andygmb: I'm guessing that happens without angular[19:45:44] <jdummy> * without angular's knowledge[19:46:22] <jdummy> essentially you're using jQuery to touch the DOM... angular doesn't know that anything on the scope has changed[19:46:25] <andygmb> hm, can't say I know enough about angular's internals to diagnose that[19:46:28] <andygmb> i see[19:46:29] *** Garfield-fr <Garfield-fr!~Garfield-@unaffiliated/garfield-fr> has joined #angularjs[19:46:47] <jdummy> why do you need to manually trigger a blur?[19:46:52] <andygmb> for tests[19:47:06] <andygmb> asserting a validation error happens if a <select> is touched but no value selected[19:47:13] <andygmb> er, validation error is shown*[19:47:38] <andygmb> the thing is, this works with a normal numeric input[19:48:05] <andygmb> so presumably <selects> are treated differently somehow[19:48:09] *** edrocks <edrocks!~edrocks@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[19:48:32] <SaltyCatFish> chiming in here, its STRONGLY discouraged to use anything that manipulates the DOM when using angular. Like jdummy said, any changes (lets say jQuery) makes will not be recognized by angular[19:48:44] <jdummy> does this imply that if the user tabs onto and then off of the select, it should be validated?[19:49:14] <jdummy> andygmb: maybe you should trigger the change event instead[19:49:22] *** nexus2911 <nexus2911!~nexus2911@75-132-44-61.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #angularjs[19:49:30] <andygmb> yes, that's correct jdummy[19:49:50] <andygmb> and i've triggered in this order: focus, change, blur[19:49:55] <andygmb> none work on select[19:49:59] *** ngbot <ngbot!~ngbot@192.30.252.41> has joined #angularjs[19:49:59] <ngbot> [angular.js] alexeagle force-pushed g3_v1_5 from 4745fec to e8e8186: https://git.io/vnxvZ[19:49:59] *** ngbot <ngbot!~ngbot@192.30.252.41> has left #angularjs[19:50:04] <andygmb> also SaltyCatFish even in a test it's discouraged?[19:50:22] <andygmb> this is using JQLite which I thought was builtin to angular[19:50:42] <SaltyCatFish> andygmb: Oh didnt see you were using JQLite[19:50:44] *** gvhoecke <gvhoecke!~gvhoecke@106.195-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has joined #angularjs[19:50:45] <andygmb> im not sure how else I could run jasmine tests without doing at least some DOM manipulation[19:50:54] <SaltyCatFish> andygmb: My bad, that should be fine then[19:50:59] <andygmb> sorry, i just assumed angular.element() meant it uses JQLite[19:51:44] *** greengriminal <greengriminal!~greengrim@206.47.143.138> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[19:51:47] <andygmb> this is probably the point at which I should create a plunkr to extract the issue and see if its repeatable[19:54:10] *** nexus2911 <nexus2911!~nexus2911@75-132-44-61.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:55:08] *** romerocesar <romerocesar!~cesar@c-73-97-145-30.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:55:39] *** zorgate <zorgate!90a0e25f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.160.226.95> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[19:57:26] *** jr3 <jr3!~jr3@c-98-194-199-12.hsd1.tx.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[20:01:45] *** moloch <moloch!~moloch@cpe-98-150-237-205.hawaii.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:02:31] *** rand0m <rand0m!~quassel@host86-139-27-149.range86-139.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:03:26] *** edrocks <edrocks!~edrocks@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has joined #angularjs[20:05:01] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@unaffiliated/fuchstronaut> has joined #angularjs[20:06:33] *** demio <demio!~eldemio@ool-18e4a4f2.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[20:07:20] *** realz <realz!~realz@unaffiliated/realazthat> has joined #angularjs[20:08:39] *** SET002 <SET002!~SET@193.111.241.153> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:08:58] *** Zodd <Zodd!5e639724@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.94.99.151.36> has joined #angularjs[20:09:08] *** SET002 <SET002!~SET@193.111.241.153> has joined #angularjs[20:09:30] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@unaffiliated/fuchstronaut> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[20:10:25] <Zodd> does angular 2 download the bootstrap components and its child components included using their selectors(directives)? and does angular 2 lazily load components that are specified by the router through router outlets?[20:10:49] *** alex1a <alex1a!~alex1a@a81-84-38-221.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #angularjs[20:10:56] <Zodd> does angular 2 download the bootstrap component and its child components included using their selectors(directives)? and does angular 2 lazily load components that are specified by the router through router outlets?[20:13:13] <Zodd> what the fuck is the point of this channel?[20:13:54] <Zodd> y'all act like you fuckers masters of the universe and come to here waiting for your grandeious questions to prove to the hidden creator that you are its equal[20:13:59] <Zodd> fuck this shit haha[20:14:34] <Zodd> y'all act like you fuckers are the masters of the universe and comin' here waiting for your grandeious questions to prove to the hidden creator that you are its equal[20:14:49] <Zodd> well, let me tell you something[20:15:04] <Zodd> go and take a bath you filthy stinking mortals[20:15:21] <Zodd> we're all in the same boat[20:15:36] *** Zodd <Zodd!5e639724@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.94.99.151.36> has left #angularjs[20:16:07] *** bengillies <bengillies!~bengillie@bengillies.net> has joined #angularjs[20:16:08] *** harha_ <harha_!harha_@y55.ip4.netikka.fi> has joined #angularjs[20:17:58] <zomg> What the hell was that?[20:18:26] <zomg> That was possibly the most ridiculous rage fit I've ever seen in response to not getting your question insta-answered[20:18:28] *** nk121 <nk121!~nk121@104.232.117.79> has quit IRC (Quit: moo)[20:21:34] *** bengillies <bengillies!~bengillie@bengillies.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[20:22:24] <heartburn> Zodd, dudebro, you're so cool and authentic, may i suck your dick please?[20:23:11] <heartburn> as for your question, try #angular2[20:24:40] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has joined #angularjs[20:25:08] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:27:43] *** chrisg_ <chrisg_!~chrisg@host86-142-34-130.range86-142.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in)[20:27:46] *** raijin <raijin!~raijin@unaffiliated/raijin> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:27:49] *** pwnd_nsfw <pwnd_nsfw!~pwnd_@cpe-2606-A000-FB05-3A00-0-0-0-1.dyn6.twc.com> has joined #angularjs[20:28:06] *** flwico <flwico!~vare@182.69.237.206> has joined #angularjs[20:28:07] <flwico> o[20:28:46] *** soee <soee!~soee@user-164-126-167-123.play-internet.pl> has joined #angularjs[20:30:55] *** pwnd_nsfw` <pwnd_nsfw`!~pwnd_@cpe-2606-A000-FB05-3A00-0-0-0-1.dyn6.twc.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:31:47] <SaltyCatFish> Mustve been Zodd from Superman II. Still a dick.[20:33:02] *** dlam <dlam!~user@2602:306:36c8:f400:441c:5b5d:5c19:6483> has joined #angularjs[20:34:10] <dlam> is ngResource only usable with factory-style services? i wonder cuz it looks like it works by returning something like... $resource("/api/userprofiles/:id");[20:34:10] <dlam>[20:34:26] <flwico> new[20:34:39] <heartburn> flwico: buddy are you feeling alright?[20:34:45] <heartburn> you need help?[20:34:49] *** evilaliv3 <evilaliv3!~evilaliv3@93-41-19-219.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has joined #angularjs[20:36:23] <heartburn> dlam: ngResource can be used in whatever fashion you like. it just returns promises. the factory/service approach is a good practice though, since all the shared stuff should live in factories/services in ng.[20:37:23] <heartburn> meanwhile, looks like they found a frigde on phobos. http://i.imgur.com/vIQQN7B.jpg[20:38:27] *** jr3 <jr3!~jr3@c-98-194-199-12.hsd1.tx.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: jr3)[20:38:43] *** asteele 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<ReScO> SaltyCatFish: i need realtime performance :([21:14:45] *** thomaspaulb <thomaspaulb!~Tom@217.21.193.235> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:14:56] <jdummy> angular will not stop you from displaying realtime data[21:15:08] <jdummy> ReScO: where will the data come from?[21:15:33] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@2600:1010:b066:299:addf:5710:bd99:ced> has joined #angularjs[21:15:36] *** jtimon <jtimon!~quassel@150.110.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[21:16:04] <jdummy> angular wants to manage your view for you. If you're pushing data into your app without angular knowing, it will not update the view[21:16:14] <jdummy> the solution is simply to tell it to update the view[21:16:25] <ReScO> jdummy: a python script, it comes in randomly i guess.[21:16:54] <jdummy> but how will JavaScript get the data? polling http requests?[21:16:57] <jdummy> websockets?[21:18:17] <ReScO> websockets probably, if possible Redis?[21:18:29] <ReScO> could just pump WS data to AngularJS[21:18:39] <jdummy> yep, you just do it[21:19:28] <jdummy> if you're pushing new data onto a controller $scope *outside* of an angular event or async function, you'll just need to tell angular that something has changed. Usually $timeout works well for that purpose[21:19:55] <jdummy> in your controller: $timeout(function(){ // fetch some data and push it into a scope array })[21:20:10] <ReScO> I haven't ever worked with Angular yet, but i'm trying to decide what will give me a GUI for what i'm making[21:20:48] <ReScO> I saw React and Angular2 going head to head according to the internet, but i'm not even sure it's going to work for what i'm trying to do[21:21:19] <jdummy> my opinion is that angular experience will do well for you in the long run. but react is great engineering as well (I don't have experience with react though)[21:21:54] <mst> I have had much joy with angular 1.x[21:21:55] <ReScO> Basically, i'm trying to make a tradebot in python, but the GUI stuff from python is terrible, so i want to use something different, and "real-time" fast for when i push data from, i guess, the websocket[21:22:05] <mst> and am current dithering because angular2 and react both look awesome[21:22:14] <Aliks> mst: I'm in the same boat[21:22:30] <Aliks> mst: I am going with Angular because I don't want to have to think about plugging in a bunch of other libraries to get a full framework[21:23:03] <mst> I was looking at react+mobx+fetch[21:23:33] *** cuebix <cuebix!~cuebix@161.215.108.190-cust.enetworksgy.com> has joined #angularjs[21:25:06] <SaltyCatFish> Unit testing with jasmine and karma. I have to constructor classes in a service that i need to inject into the controller Spec... anyone have an article or direction they can point me in?[21:25:20] <SaltyCatFish> I dont want to mock[21:25:26] <SaltyCatFish> The constructors do a lot[21:25:50] <SaltyCatFish> to=two[21:26:24] <zomg> Can you give an example of how it works?[21:26:43] <zomg> Like, service.constructorA and service.constructorB and you want to test controllerZ which uses A and B?[21:27:23] <SaltyCatFish> I have controller A, which requires Service "Project" and service "Subtask"[21:27:37] <SaltyCatFish> These services parse JSON data into dates, etc. etc.[21:27:53] <SaltyCatFish> turn the results into objects with methods on the prototype[21:28:44] <SaltyCatFish> http://pastebin.com/hD5CkGwx[21:28:46] *** pimlu <pimlu!~pimlu@128.172.35.15> has joined #angularjs[21:29:05] <zomg> Okay makes sense, and you're trying to test the controller and the problem is..?[21:29:06] *** Garfield-fr <Garfield-fr!~Garfield-@unaffiliated/garfield-fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com)[21:29:35] <SaltyCatFish> I need to get the services to parse the jsons so I can work with the actual objects to test them...[21:29:37] *** AnarchyAo <AnarchyAo!~andrew@8.18.217.202> has joined #angularjs[21:29:57] <ReScO> So why do you guys love Angular anyways?[21:30:00] <SaltyCatFish> I have the controller injected into the spec, not seeing a clear way to get the service in[21:30:05] <ReScO> Where lies it's power, and why Angular?[21:30:22] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: Did you ever try making a single page application from scratch?[21:30:34] <ReScO> SaltyCatFish: nope[21:30:46] <ReScO> Always been a PHP guy[21:31:02] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: Its hard... angular makes it easy. Brings really nice separation of concerns and modularity to the project.[21:31:11] <SaltyCatFish> Just stay away from require.js =)[21:31:14] <zomg> SaltyCatFish: ah, unfortunately I'm not hugely familiar with how angular's injection in the tests work.. but isn't it the same as injecting any other service?[21:31:51] <SaltyCatFish> zomg: Yeah, im not that familiar either. I'm seeing a lot of stuff on $provider, but no lightbulbs are going off. I'll keep digging.[21:31:55] *** ekarlso- <ekarlso-!~ekarlso@85.17.207.6> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:31:55] *** ekarlso- <ekarlso-!~ekarlso@unaffiliated/zykes> has joined #angularjs[21:32:24] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: Honestly, I'm just finishing up my 1st project in Angular now...[21:32:34] *** fdev <fdev!~fdev@x4d0cd0ec.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #angularjs[21:32:41] <zomg> SaltyCatFish: if you see here, doesn't it work like this? https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ngMock/function/angular.mock.inject[21:32:46] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: Once you get everything wired up, which there isnt that much, it make everything much easier[21:33:33] <SaltyCatFish> zomg: I was trying to find something like that, the same way _controller_ is done, thanks man![21:33:38] <zomg> For me angular's advantage was that it allows fairly fast UI prototyping / building[21:33:44] <ReScO> So it's entirely possible to display a live graph in Angular as long as i implement the right code?[21:33:55] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: Of coruse[21:33:58] <SaltyCatFish> course*[21:34:05] <ReScO> Streaming graph, rather, but eh[21:34:15] <zomg> SaltyCatFish: yep :) I really should dig into this more and write about it as it seems a lot of people are asking about this (both here and via email to me personally)[21:34:27] <ReScO> basically all i want to do is send datapoints over, and other messages to update in the UI[21:34:43] *** iraj <iraj!~iraj@91.107.171.39> has joined #angularjs[21:34:43] *** iraj <iraj!~iraj@91.107.171.39> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:34:43] *** iraj <iraj!~iraj@unaffiliated/iraj> has joined #angularjs[21:35:00] *** iraj_ <iraj_!~iraj@91.107.171.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:35:08] <ReScO> completely seperately, and they'll arrive at random intervals, it's crucial i get the data as soon as it comes in[21:35:26] <ReScO> s/get the data/get the data on the screen/[21:36:17] *** phil22 <phil22!~filippo@81-174-40-232.v4.ngi.it> has joined #angularjs[21:37:22] <ReScO> But is it easy to learn? i'm used to frameworks like Symfony3/PHP, i tried using Python to serve webpages but that was a no-go too[21:37:46] *** demio <demio!~eldemio@ool-18e4a4f2.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #angularjs[21:44:38] *** theskillwithin <theskillwithin!~theskillw@unaffiliated/theskillwithin> has joined #angularjs[21:44:41] *** pimlu <pimlu!~pimlu@128.172.35.15> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[21:45:27] <zomg> ReScO: if you've never used javascript, or just a little, I would avoid angular until you're more comfortable with JS[21:45:42] *** jdummy <jdummy!620aab14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.10.171.20> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:45:51] <zomg> if you like the concept of binding data into your html via JS, KnockoutJS is similar but a lot easier to understand library[21:45:53] <ReScO> zomg: i can find my way around JS pretty well[21:45:53] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@2600:1010:b066:299:addf:5710:bd99:ced> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:46:18] *** demio <demio!~eldemio@ool-18e4a4f2.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[21:46:18] *** umdstu <umdstu!~umdstu@65.127.220.137> has quit IRC (Quit: umdstu)[21:46:31] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@2600:1010:b066:299:addf:5710:bd99:ced> has joined #angularjs[21:46:39] <mst> there is also vue.js and riot.js which both seem to be well liked by people who find angular too much[21:46:40] <zomg> okay, in that case it should be fairly easy to learn the basics. There's some things like custom directives which may be tricky at first, but they're not something you need to worry about when you're getting started[21:47:21] *** leolrrj <leolrrj!~leolrrj@50-243-248-21-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC ()[21:47:35] <ReScO> i don't really care for "too much", anything can be learned[21:47:37] *** edrocks <edrocks!~edrocks@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[21:48:38] *** edrocks <edrocks!~edrocks@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has joined #angularjs[21:49:33] *** leolrrj <leolrrj!~leolrrj@50-243-248-21-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #angularjs[21:49:43] *** geoid <geoid!~geoid@95.144.61.100> has joined #angularjs[21:50:54] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@2600:1010:b066:299:addf:5710:bd99:ced> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:51:12] *** flwico <flwico!~vare@182.69.237.206> has left #angularjs[21:51:13] *** arguros <arguros!~arguros@12.172.180.2> has joined #angularjs[21:52:16] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: You said this is for the stock market though right?[21:52:48] *** ciroque <ciroque!~swagner@sea02-v600-nat.marchex.com> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[21:53:06] *** ciroque <ciroque!~swagner@sea02-v600-nat.marchex.com> has joined #angularjs[21:53:37] <geoid> How can I create a generic directive that can control a type of element on the page but provide different states for each? E.g. http://jsbin.com/xahapuseju/2 I want the drop-downs to be independent of one another.[21:54:01] <geoid> by drop-downs I mean accordion / collapsible type elements.[21:54:47] <ReScO> SaltyCatFish: cryptocurrency yeah[21:54:55] *** fees <fees!~fees_@d54c22e1c.access.telenet.be> has joined #angularjs[21:54:59] *** wtzy <wtzy!d519ce42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.25.206.66> has joined #angularjs[21:55:19] <ReScO> trying to make an "app"-like webpanel that shows me all i need to know about my system[21:55:51] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: Thats a lot of data changing rapidly.[21:56:14] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has joined #angularjs[21:56:15] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: Thinking out loud(typing), i'm sure you figured that already. =D[21:56:19] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@2600:1010:b066:299:7ded:636c:cb23:210d> has joined #angularjs[21:57:29] <ReScO> SaltyCatFish: yeah, it's not just one currency pair[21:57:34] <ReScO> it's -all- the market data[21:58:04] *** encrypt__ <encrypt__!~encryptd_@c-76-17-241-27.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[21:58:30] <SaltyCatFish> ambitious![22:00:08] <SaltyCatFish> zomg: Hly sht that worked...[22:00:55] *** encryptd_fractal <encryptd_fractal!~encryptd_@c-76-17-241-27.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:01:30] <zomg> oh cool :)[22:02:28] *** greengriminal <greengriminal!~greengrim@206.47.143.138> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[22:02:43] *** greengriminal <greengriminal!~greengrim@206.47.143.138> has joined #angularjs[22:02:47] <SaltyCatFish> thanks! really needed that link![22:02:59] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@2600:1010:b066:299:7ded:636c:cb23:210d> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:03:15] *** w2r5 <w2r5!~textual@c-69-242-232-38.hsd1.az.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[22:03:15] *** w2r5 <w2r5!~textual@unaffiliated/w2r5> has joined #angularjs[22:03:21] <zomg> Did I tell you to download this yet? :P http://codeutopia.net/go/sinon-pdf[22:03:30] <zomg> I seem to remember telling someone to download that recently[22:03:31] <zomg> :D[22:03:34] *** greengriminal <greengriminal!~greengrim@206.47.143.138> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:03:37] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@2600:1010:b066:299:7ded:636c:cb23:210d> has joined #angularjs[22:03:40] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@2600:1010:b066:299:7ded:636c:cb23:210d> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:04:18] <SaltyCatFish> nope never heard of sinon.js[22:04:30] *** demio <demio!~eldemio@ool-18e4a4f2.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #angularjs[22:04:53] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@c-67-180-35-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[22:04:56] <zomg> ah, you'll want to learn about that then :)[22:05:04] <zomg> basically the best stubbing/mocking lib out there[22:05:16] <SaltyCatFish> sweet thanks![22:05:35] <SaltyCatFish> dl'ing now[22:05:54] *** kegster <kegster!~kegster@unaffiliated/kegster> has joined #angularjs[22:06:18] *** w2r5 is now known as zeezey[22:06:23] *** zeezey <zeezey!~textual@unaffiliated/w2r5> has quit IRC (Changing host)[22:06:23] *** zeezey <zeezey!~textual@unaffiliated/zeezey> has joined #angularjs[22:06:25] *** greengriminal <greengriminal!~greengrim@206.47.143.138> has joined #angularjs[22:06:35] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@unaffiliated/fuchstronaut> has joined #angularjs[22:08:21] <ReScO> SaltyCatFish: per chance, what's the best way to pass data to Angular?[22:09:14] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: Check with zomg, he's much more well versed. I'm sending everything via JSON through PHP scripts.[22:09:30] <SaltyCatFish> Angular has a built in $http for ajax requests.[22:09:40] <SaltyCatFish> And def start looking into promises if you havent already[22:10:35] *** sagerdearia <sagerdearia!~necrodear@unaffiliated/necrodearia> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:10:42] *** mistralol <mistralol!~james@82-69-71-106.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk> has joined #angularjs[22:10:56] <mistralol> would anyone be able to tell me why this does not work in angular? http://pastebin.com/prZRnMcS[22:11:21] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@unaffiliated/fuchstronaut> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:11:46] <SaltyCatFish> what doesnt work?[22:12:20] <mistralol> its throws out angular.js:38Uncaught Error: [$injector:modulerr] http://errors.angularjs.org/1.5.8/$injector/modulerr?p0=app&p1=Error%3A%20%…0%20%20at%20c%20(http%3A%2F%2F127.0.0.1%3A8080%2Fangular.min.js%3A20%3A390)[22:12:21] <SaltyCatFish> you dont have $http on line 18[22:12:39] *** wtzy <wtzy!d519ce42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.25.206.66> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[22:12:42] <da_wunder> mistralol: plunker would help on these[22:12:58] <mistralol> plunker?[22:13:04] <da_wunder> !help[22:13:04] <uru> da_wunder: I am not a bot! (promise)[22:13:04] <angularjs_bot> AngularJS Plunker template http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS[22:13:10] <SaltyCatFish> You're using $http in your controller, but you have to declare it alongside '$scope'[22:13:10] <da_wunder> mistralol: see that link[22:13:50] <ReScO> zomg, mind if i PM you?[22:13:57] <zeezey> duude[22:13:59] <da_wunder> and that is why i can't belive that someone is still using ['foo', function(foo) { ... } ] syntax[22:14:15] <da_wunder> just use some build tools and @ngInject[22:14:49] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@109.109.143.238> has joined #angularjs[22:14:54] <mistralol> da_wunder: it was a copy paste. I also don't know anything about angular ;)[22:14:56] <SaltyCatFish> da_wunder: yeah but in all honesty as someone still learning this framwork, its tough. Everything seems to become so outdated so quickly[22:14:59] <mistralol> da_wunder: what is the better syntax?[22:14:59] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@188.25.21.209> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:15:15] <SaltyCatFish> da_wunder: Went to John Pappa's guide, turned everything upside down.[22:15:37] <da_wunder> mistralol: depends on your build tool[22:15:43] <ReScO> What IDE do you use for Angular?[22:15:58] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: don't =D[22:16:05] <geoid> greetz y'all :)[22:16:26] <da_wunder> ReScO: Php/WebStorm[22:16:28] <ReScO> SaltyCatFish: i have Jetbrains WebStorm, PhpStorm AND i use PyCharm >_>[22:16:32] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: Best advice I can give you, go to youtube, watch the videos[22:16:47] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: I see a lot of people use WebStorm.[22:16:57] *** cspotcode <cspotcode!uid80131@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hkraoeyrttrxugxs> has joined #angularjs[22:17:00] <ReScO> Seems to be geared towards Angular[22:17:01] <SaltyCatFish> ReScO: I use Sublime[22:17:10] <geoid> would anyone be able to tell me why my $watch doesn't run when the "Click me" elements are clicked here?: http://jsbin.com/dajuyuxori/7/edit?html,css,js,output[22:17:17] <mistralol> da_wunder: started using webstorm today to see what its like[22:17:18] <da_wunder> mistralol: eg. like this https://github.com/tarlepp/Angular-Firebase-Material-Demo/blob/master/src%2Fapp%2Ftodo%2Ftodo.controller.js#L9-L27[22:17:49] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[22:17:54] <da_wunder> mistralol: but that really depends _how_you_build_ your application[22:18:41] *** bengillies <bengillies!~bengillie@bengillies.net> has joined #angularjs[22:18:42] <da_wunder> in that project i use gulp and one of its plugins to make those ['foo', function(foo) { ... } ] injections to work like that[22:18:55] <mistralol> da_wunder: I don't as such yet it staticly loaded from web server into chrome[22:18:56] *** Germanaz0 <Germanaz0!~Germanaz0@unaffiliated/germanaz0> has quit IRC (Quit: Me fui a dormir)[22:19:12] <da_wunder> mistralol: you should use some build tools[22:19:21] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@109.109.143.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:19:36] <mistralol> da_wunder: yeah can i learn 1 thing at a time? ;)[22:19:47] <ReScO> so, when starting with Angular, hop straight into Angular 2?[22:19:48] <da_wunder> and if you have just started, eg. you could take a close look of this https://github.com/tarlepp/angular-material-webpack-seed[22:19:49] *** theskillwithin <theskillwithin!~theskillw@unaffiliated/theskillwithin> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:20:06] <da_wunder> mistralol: with that you can use es2015 stuff in your js[22:20:10] <da_wunder> which is just nice[22:20:39] <mistralol> da_wunder: thats great but it doesn't help me with getting a really basic app to work ;)[22:21:03] <da_wunder> mistralol: that is "basic" app working[22:21:19] <da_wunder> mistralol: live example there http://wunder.sytes.net:3000/[22:23:00] <geoid> ReScO I understood that Angular2 wasn't intended to replace Angular1.. that it's specifically for mobile app development ( I stand to be corrected ).[22:23:18] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has joined #angularjs[22:23:32] *** mastokley <mastokley!~mastokley@71.35.179.178> has joined #angularjs[22:23:37] <da_wunder> geoid: ng2 is not only for mobile[22:23:39] *** step1step2 <step1step2!~step1step@p57A455B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[22:23:43] *** bengillies <bengillies!~bengillie@bengillies.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[22:24:34] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:24:55] *** OnkelTem <OnkelTem!~onkeltem@pppoe-62-84-112-224.dubna.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[22:25:55] <ReScO> So.... Angular2 + TS2 then?[22:26:09] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@mal59-2-88-165-162-143.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #angularjs[22:27:54] <geoid> what is TS2?[22:28:00] <ReScO> TypeScript[22:28:32] <mistralol> da_wunder: ok different question. When I have angular.module("app", []).controller('QuoteController', function ($scope, $http) {}); I get an erro that says QuoteController does not exist when I have another call to register a different controller In exactly the same way....[22:28:48] <mistralol> When I remove the 2nd call the error goes away[22:28:58] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has joined #angularjs[22:29:09] <mistralol> likewise if i reverse the order of the calls the error goes away[22:30:08] <geoid> mistralol this might answer your question: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39044175/nested-modules-in-angularjs/39044295#39044295[22:31:15] *** fbenoit <fbenoit!~fbenoit@mal59-2-88-165-162-143.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[22:31:45] <geoid> Can anyone help with this? http://jsbin.com/dajuyuxori/7/edit?html,css,js,output,console – I don't understand why the $watch runs on load but not on click.[22:32:10] *** fakingfantastic_ <fakingfantastic_!~franklaka@ool-2f10acf5.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #angularjs[22:33:13] *** raijin <raijin!~raijin@unaffiliated/raijin> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[22:33:15] <fakingfantastic_> Hey guys, I have a simply <form> that the client wants a little block inside of with a PayPal button (which is also a form). Clicking the paypal button is submitting the parent form rather than its own form. How do I tell angular to ignore the parent form, and just submit the child paypal form?[22:33:25] <fakingfantastic_> simple*[22:35:21] <rand0m> hmm.. I have a question for you guys[22:35:33] <rand0m> how do you go on build an application when you're given a question?[22:36:18] <rand0m> I mean, do you dive in directly build the controller and then create view and then routes, and restructure project[22:36:32] <rand0m> or do you have a plan or boilerplate that you use[22:37:59] <geoid> rand0m depends on the project[22:38:17] *** {DV8} <{DV8}!~Deviate@135-23-110-43.cpe.pppoe.ca> has joined #angularjs[22:38:37] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[22:38:45] <rand0m> I'm actually tasked with a project, but I'm stuck at the start point :|[22:39:13] *** step1step2 <step1step2!~step1step@p57A442E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #angularjs[22:42:49] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has joined #angularjs[22:44:44] *** keemyb <keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-jsabvatttxsiyquj> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:45:28] *** sbellina <sbellina!~sbellina@c-75-65-176-38.hsd1.ms.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:45:40] *** wrkrcoop <wrkrcoop!~martee@adsk-nat-ip4.autodesk.com> has joined #angularjs[22:45:46] <wrkrcoop> does this ngInject https://gist.github.com/ellismarte/3fac776f69ccc68b198f9d990fde0199[22:45:54] <wrkrcoop> just make $scope available to the function?[22:49:45] *** raijin <raijin!~raijin@unaffiliated/raijin> has joined #angularjs[22:50:27] *** nexus2911 <nexus2911!~nexus2911@75-132-44-61.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #angularjs[22:51:16] *** sergey <sergey!~sergey@46.98.250.226> has quit IRC ()[22:51:37] *** mven <mven!~textual@207.91.176.135> has joined #angularjs[22:53:05] *** u0m3 <u0m3!~u0m3@5-12-97-245.residential.rdsnet.ro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:54:52] *** tomphp <tomphp!~tomphp@host86-170-198-213.range86-170.btcentralplus.com> has joined #angularjs[22:55:03] *** zerd <zerd!~quassel@bat.slash.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:55:29] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@c-67-180-35-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:56:08] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@c-67-180-35-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[22:56:09] <fakingfantastic_> wrkrcoop: just do class HomepageController { ..} … then `export default HomepageController;`[22:56:43] *** {DV8} <{DV8}!~Deviate@135-23-110-43.cpe.pppoe.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:56:58] *** galileopy <galileopy!~galileopy@181.121.77.227> has joined #angularjs[22:57:12] <wrkrcoop> fakingfantastic_: i thought about doing this: https://gist.github.com/ellismarte/3fac776f69ccc68b198f9d990fde0199#file-asdf-js-L1-L18[22:57:18] <wrkrcoop> is this ok? im just getting back into angular[22:57:53] *** Coldblackice <Coldblackice!~anonz@unaffiliated/coldblackice> has joined #angularjs[22:57:56] *** map_reduce <map_reduce!~arek@89-74-37-28.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #angularjs[22:57:58] *** jiggerypokery <jiggerypokery!~jerome@host31-53-134-219.range31-53.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:58:33] *** raijin <raijin!~raijin@unaffiliated/raijin> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[22:58:51] *** {DV8} <{DV8}!~Deviate@135-23-110-43.cpe.pppoe.ca> has joined #angularjs[22:59:14] <geoid> rand0m I generally start with a boilerplate / framework and then flesh out the app from there... but each setup has it's pitfalls.[23:00:04] <geoid> there's a webpack seed link above which is a good starting point. Yeoman isn't bad either.[23:00:25] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@c-67-180-35-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:00:46] <rand0m> I see[23:00:54] <rand0m> Thanks I'll look in to it[23:01:07] <ReScO> i've been putting off stuff like Angular for a long while[23:01:13] <ReScO> it seems to be easy..[23:01:46] <map_reduce> ReScO: angular is easy?[23:01:47] *** zerd <zerd!~quassel@bat.slash.no> has joined #angularjs[23:01:55] *** bayousoft <bayousoft!~textual@130.70.12.3> has quit IRC ()[23:01:55] <ReScO> map_reduce: *seems*[23:02:31] <map_reduce> ReScO: coolio[23:02:43] *** nexus2911 <nexus2911!~nexus2911@75-132-44-61.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:02:51] <ReScO> :P[23:04:02] <geoid> ReScO no. IMHO It's hard. It's a whole new way of thinking. Stuff that's easy in jQuery can be really, really hard in angularJs.[23:04:36] <geoid> However once you get it, it's faster to work in than jQuery for building apps. What's it's not as good at is building widgets. (again IMHO).[23:04:39] *** Aliks <Aliks!~aliks@c-67-180-35-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[23:04:43] <ReScO> Fair enough, we'll see what happens :P[23:05:16] <ReScO> So, when creating a design, can i just create a base HTML template and slowly add ng tags to them and whatever?[23:05:32] <geoid> take my jsbin link above for example. I'm trying to build a really simple collapsible element in AngularJS. I've spent ALL DAY on it and it's still not working. It would take me half an hour in jQuery.[23:05:57] <geoid> ReScO not really no... like I said - different way of thinking.[23:05:58] *** despai <despai!~despai@ip5658b122.direct-adsl.nl> has joined #angularjs[23:06:36] *** nya_ <nya_!~nya@p7902c6f7.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:07:21] <ReScO> geoid: so i can't mock together a base style?[23:07:26] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@p2003005BED2C0E007C8D214BBD14E6E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #angularjs[23:07:43] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@p2003005BED2C0E007C8D214BBD14E6E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[23:07:43] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@unaffiliated/fuchstronaut> has joined #angularjs[23:07:44] <geoid> I mean sure, it's all HTML but more often than not the structure of the application is not at all like what one is used to with jQuery apps. So you're more likely to take your HTML and split it up into smaller components / files / bits. And yes you can start with a mock.. how else :)[23:07:45] *** edrocks <edrocks!~edrocks@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:07:54] <geoid> I just mean that it's more than just adding tags to an HTML page.[23:08:31] <ReScO> ahh[23:08:50] <ReScO> Well, how do you guys mock anyways?[23:09:05] <ReScO> just use bootstrap or something like that?[23:09:10] <geoid> Also getting help is quite hard. e.g. ask a question about $watch and be deafened by the silence :P[23:09:40] *** raijin <raijin!~raijin@unaffiliated/raijin> has joined #angularjs[23:10:09] *** iraj <iraj!~iraj@unaffiliated/iraj> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:10:12] <ReScO> geoid: i found some stuff on stack overflow about collapsing/expanding a diff, but i guess you've found that already :P[23:10:22] <ReScO> div *[23:10:24] <geoid> ReScO link?[23:10:26] <ReScO> it's getting late[23:10:57] *** iraj <iraj!~iraj@91.107.171.39> has joined #angularjs[23:10:57] *** iraj <iraj!~iraj@91.107.171.39> has quit IRC (Changing host)[23:10:57] *** iraj <iraj!~iraj@unaffiliated/iraj> has joined #angularjs[23:11:13] *** milkman_ <milkman_!~milkman@62.80.122.52> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[23:11:37] *** fuchstronaut <fuchstronaut!~fuchstron@unaffiliated/fuchstronaut> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:11:42] <geoid> ReScO tx but that's bootstrap... I'm trying to learn how to do with without plugins.[23:13:35] *** zerd <zerd!~quassel@bat.slash.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:13:37] <ReScO> geoid: and this? http://fiddle.jshell.net/Jackpot/yq9waq2a/[23:13:47] *** zivester <zivester!~zivester@pool-100-35-226-28.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net> has joined #angularjs[23:14:20] *** keemyb <keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ycwlxoiivcczgbyz> has joined #angularjs[23:14:43] <geoid> ReScO that might help, tx.[23:17:25] *** autoboxer <autoboxer!~autoboxer@69.64.216.64> has joined #angularjs[23:17:48] *** zerd <zerd!~quassel@bat.slash.no> has joined #angularjs[23:18:38] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…)[23:35:52] <Unitiser1> Hey there, im trying to make a small feature that format the content of the text box as you type. It works ok, but i have 1 issue. When you update the value with FormControl.patchValue(), it resets the cursors position. Does anyone have a workaround for that? (I cant provide exemples right now, im on my phone, ircs are blocked from corporate network >.<)[23:36:06] *** jhadvig <jhadvig!~jhadvig@ip-37-188-130-76.eurotel.cz> has joined #angularjs[23:37:37] *** galileopy <galileopy!~galileopy@181.121.77.227> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:37:48] *** riku <riku!riku@theorycraft.fi> has joined #angularjs[23:37:55] *** eago <eago!~eago@CPEbc4dfbf3d093-CMbc4dfbf3d090.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:38:16] <map_reduce> Unitiser1: is that ng1?[23:38:30] *** eago <eago!~eago@CPEbc4dfbf3d093-CMbc4dfbf3d090.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined #angularjs[23:38:49] <Unitiser1> Nop, ng2. Am i in the wrong channel xD?[23:39:08] <map_reduce> Unitiser1: nope, its just hard to tekk[23:39:11] <map_reduce> tell[23:40:14] *** zerd <zerd!~quassel@bat.slash.no> has joined #angularjs[23:41:14] <Unitiser1> Ahah, my bad, i tought the reference to the class was a sufficient indicator. Its almost 6 now my brain is melting :P[23:41:31] <map_reduce> Unitiser1: 6am?[23:42:36] <Unitiser1> Pm, days almost over![23:42:51] *** bayousoft <bayousoft!~textual@130.70.12.3> has joined #angularjs[23:43:30] <map_reduce> Unitiser1: nice to see people already work with ng2[23:44:45] <Unitiser1> Weve been working with ng2 for 4 months now, we had some minor drawbacks with all the rc, but it wasnt too bad[23:47:41] *** jhadvig <jhadvig!~jhadvig@ip-37-188-130-76.eurotel.cz> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:48:05] <dodobrain> when i use $location.path('/foo') in a $uibModal controller method, it doesn;t work and gives me an error:[23:48:09] <dodobrain> Failed to execute 'write' on 'Document': It isn't possible to write into a document from an asynchronously-loaded external script unless it is explicitly opened.[23:48:13] *** jr3 <jr3!~jr3@c-98-194-199-12.hsd1.tx.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: jr3)[23:50:03] *** grug <grug!~grug@tunnelsnak.es> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[23:50:06] *** mven <mven!~textual@207.91.176.135> has joined #angularjs[23:50:45] *** dcherman <dcherman!~dcherman@164.55.254.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[23:53:58] *** nexus2911 <nexus2911!~nexus2911@75-132-44-61.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:54:18] *** bayousoft <bayousoft!~textual@130.70.12.3> has quit IRC ()[23:56:03] *** map_reduce <map_reduce!~arek@89-74-37-28.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:56:13] *** wrkrcoop <wrkrcoop!~martee@adsk-nat-ip4.autodesk.com> has quit IRC (Quit: wrkrcoop)[23:56:21] *** c17r <c17r!~c17r@c-76-111-82-24.hsd1.va.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:57:25] *** jsightler is now known as jsightler_afk