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[00:15:19] <rr_> hi
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[00:29:24] <rikki> hello
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[00:30:02] <Guest81388> i have question
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[00:31:01] <keemyb> just ask
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[00:32:44] <ericchu> These people who just join and leave... don't really understand irc lol
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[01:16:18] <ben29392> on production angularjs works fine in a rails app, on dev/staging it doesn't seem to work at all (no errors, just no execution of angular code). no gems are involved, angularjs libraries are included in application.js (and it is being compiled in application.js). anyone have a clue why the angular app in rails isn't working? since i get no error and know little of angular i'm a bit confused as to how to investigate.
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[02:20:08] <ambienthack> hello guys. i wonder, is there a (good) reason why directive's "require" only allows to target parent directives, but not child ones?
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[04:57:43] <TheoMurpse> So I'm having an issue with Angular having the maximum recursion reached issue because I have an object in scope that is a tree with parent and child nodes, which leads to circular references. Does anyone have tips for tracking down where in my code this object is being checked for changes? I can't find any $scope.$watch I've written that watches this property. Thanks.
[04:58:25] <TheoMurpse> The watching for changes is what causes the recursion error since it's comparing new and old versions of the object, and since the object has circular references, it recurses up and down and up and down those same nodes until it hits the max depth and errors out.
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[05:11:42] <jiam> Yayay
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[05:17:04] <angularjs861> Yayayay
[05:17:10] <angularjs861> jiam i think you look very fine!
[05:17:14] <jiam> ohhhh thanks
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[05:17:32] <jiam> i go to sleep
[05:17:36] <angularjs861> good night
[05:17:45] <jiam> c u tommorow guys!
[05:17:47] <angularjs861> cu!
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[06:16:49] <mohanjp> Hi all
[06:17:45] <mohanjp> can anyone help me with: "TypeError: Cannot read property 'insertBefore' of null"
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[07:52:51] <sysRPL> hello
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[07:53:02] <sysRPL> so i'm having a problem with extending existing types like String and Date. maybe someone could tell me what's wrong with this ...
[07:53:09] <sysRPL> http://www.getlazarus.org/typescript/
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[07:56:53] <kathir> Hello All
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[08:11:14] <usingSystem> hi I'm trying to use ng-repeat with a filter and a search input field. I'm not able to filter the list would anyone be able to please cast their eyes on this I've attempt to create a fiddle for this at http://jsfiddle.net/z2stbsqt/2/
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[08:49:35] <Aristy> Hey guys, new to AngularJS. Is it possible to resolve a controller and inject some data from outer scopes?
[08:49:51] <Aristy> I asked this question on SO a day ago but didn't get satisfable replies: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39451673/accessing-angular-services-in-an-interchangeable-way
[08:50:26] <Aristy> Basically, what I want to do is, whenever an event in my socket service occurs, I want to update $scope.users variable on a certain controller
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[08:54:35] <icebox> Aristy: you need to use a different approach.. a socket service listening the socket events: when an event is received, the socket service refresh the service(s), injected as a dep, callinga method, for instance, foo.update();... then the changes are automagically propagated from the update service(s) to the controllers using that reference
[08:55:37] <icebox> Aristy: that would follow best practice and there would not be not any circular issue
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[08:57:11] <icebox> Aristy: another detail... when you refresh the services, due to an event, you need to play with the digest cycle, otherwise data is not updated
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[08:58:48] <Aristy> @icebox: Like my SocketService updates XService and I need to use XService on controllers?
[08:59:00] <Aristy> @icebox: Sorry, couldn't understand that well
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[09:00:04] <MobLurker> Question: So I have an angular file (http://pastebin.com/Fn8ckqxE) that needs to make an HTTP Get call to an API backend I'm going to get
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[09:00:19] <icebox> Aristy: partial code: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/efa424adb429df7939add46d9d038b1e
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[09:00:50] <MobLurker> The call returns a json object that contains everything to be filled in across multiple controllers
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[09:01:37] <MobLurker> eg http://pastebin.com/1nPSThfh
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[09:02:18] <MobLurker> How would I go about getting the data from this call to the 3 different controllers that need it without making 3 calls?
[09:02:26] <Aristy> @icebox: So basically, I have a service called streamService. Whenever an event occurs in streamService, it updates the values in quotesService. And in your QuotesController, you do $scope.quotes = quotesService.get(); ?
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[09:03:14] <Aristy> @icebox: So instead of injecting data into controllers directly, you rely on a seperate shared service, if I understood correctly
[09:03:17] <icebox> Aristy: in controllers you have references for "quotesService", "activityService", "tradesService", and so on... when you call ".update" method, data is updated in the service and reference of that object is contained in the contrller and bound to the view...
[09:03:24] <icebox> Aristy: correct
[09:04:17] <Aristy> @icebox: Would controllers cache the value though? Or they would call activityService.get() each time they are initialized?
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[09:05:39] <icebox> Aristy: it is based on two-way binding :)
[09:06:13] <icebox> Aristy: no cache, no reinitialization
[09:06:33] <Aristy> @icebox: Okay mate. If you want to make an answer on SO, I can upvote and pick it as the answer. :)
[09:06:56] <icebox> Aristy: no account there :)
[09:07:25] <Aristy> @icebox: Okay, I will answer it myself and give credits to you then, so other people may also find the solution in the future
[09:08:12] <MobLurker> anyone with suggestions for my thing
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[09:09:13] <icebox> Aristy: no problem... credits to angularjs community on irc :)
[09:09:30] <icebox> MobLurker: here we are
[09:09:56] <icebox> MobLurker: use a service
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[09:14:27] <arlekin> hi guys
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[09:14:54] <kathir> Hello Friends, Please anyone explain - $scope.$apply() vs $scope.$apply(fn) differences???
[09:16:14] <icebox> arlekin: hey
[09:18:21] <arlekin> btw, and i swear im not a bad dev, could anyone explain to me how should script tags look like when there is build process in place ?
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[09:19:36] <arlekin> i mean, in the end, in head element there should be reference to post-build files, but what about during development ? am i supposed to perform full build each time i want to see changes in browser ? or manually replace script tags for production, or what?
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[09:19:57] <Elarcis> Hi
[09:20:11] <arlekin> Elarcis: yo
[09:20:44] <Elarcis> is anyone using VSCode and having the same issue as I with Typescript? My documentation shows up when I hover my type while in the same file, but when I import it elsewhere, there's no doc at all, this is mildly annoying
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[09:29:14] <icebox> Elarcis: hey!
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[09:30:39] <icebox> arlekin: (generally speaking, script tags always before the closing body tag, not in the head one)
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[09:31:53] <icebox> kathir: http://jimhoskins.com/2012/12/17/angularjs-and-apply.html
[09:33:16] <arlekin> icebox: yeah i heard about that, but never really understood why, i mean i guess it kinda ensures that angular stuff runs last, but then again when i have clients over LAN and the app is very client-side...
[09:34:12] <icebox> Aristy: a minor detail... don't break the reference: SharedDataService.data = res;
[09:34:27] <icebox> Aristy: Two way data binding pitfalls http://plnkr.co/edit/7anGLMoJZgMkJFX9d9IA?p=preview
[09:34:53] <arlekin> icebox, Elarcis: hey, guys, come to poland in november for big angular conf, wouldn't ya ?
[09:35:00] <icebox> Aristy: be aware how to update the reference... angular.extend or angular.merge help there...
[09:35:14] <arlekin> it'd be awesome to meet IRL and share a beer
[09:35:15] <icebox> arlekin: no
[09:35:22] <arlekin> icebox: well that was harsh
[09:35:38] <arlekin> icebox: why not ?
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[09:35:48] <icebox> arlekin: vacation days close to zero :)
[09:36:23] <arlekin> icebox: it ain't vacation, its big conference about angular, there will be guys from google and whatnot
[09:36:39] <arlekin> icebox: im sure you could spin it like that
[09:36:49] <arlekin> icebox: maybe even go on company budget
[09:36:50] <icebox> arlekin: from the point of view of the company, it would be a vacation day
[09:36:58] <icebox> arlekin: no company budget
[09:37:06] <arlekin> icebox: your company is stupid then, no offense
[09:37:37] <arlekin> icebox: http://xplor.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/CFO.jpg
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[09:38:22] <arlekin> Elarcis ?
[09:38:49] <icebox> arlekin: yes, I know it... but it is not so simple when you work for a big company (with 25000 employees)... there are policies to respect
[09:39:03] <arlekin> icebox: if it helps i could vow you will have no fun whatsoever
[09:39:08] <arlekin> icebox: i feel you bro
[09:39:36] <Aristy> @icebox: What should I do instead icebox? I don't understand how I shouldn't break the reference
[09:39:40] <Aristy> Brb quick
[09:40:05] <icebox> Aristy: ok... I explain it when you are back
[09:41:45] <Aristy> I'm back @icebox
[09:41:50] <icebox> Aristy: ok...
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[09:42:04] <Aristy> Preparing dinner so I should have a look at the oven time to time :)
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[09:42:43] <Elarcis> arlekin: can't move much this year as well, sorry
[09:43:20] <icebox> Aristy: when you have an object (or array) reference in the controller, you cannot update that reference in the service as data = newData; // because you overwrite the old reference with a new one
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[09:44:04] <icebox> Aristy: imagine to reset that array... the first attempt would be data = []; // but this breaks the reference, because [] creates a new array
[09:44:28] <icebox> Aristy: and the automatic watcher was added on the old reference
[09:44:36] <icebox> Aristy: data is not updated anymore
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[09:44:49] <icebox> Aristy: better angular.extend(data, newData);
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[09:44:59] <icebox> Aristy: off for a quick break
[09:45:06] <arlekin> Elarcis: shame :(
[09:45:24] <Aristy> @icebox: Me too, will be back in 10 minutes
[09:45:31] <arlekin> icebox: Elarcis: then be sure guys to check materials from conf, should be interesting studd
[09:45:33] <arlekin> *stuff
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[09:47:21] <Elarcis> arlekin: I hope so! Hi Foxandxss
[09:47:28] <Foxandxss> hey
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[09:49:16] *** Foxandxss changes topic to "http://angularjs.org/ | Docs: http://docs.angularjs.org/ | Latest release: 1.5.8 / 2.0.0-rc7 | Code Of Conduct: http://goo.gl/m7MHxk | Provide a working example here: http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS | #ionic for Ionic questions | http://splintercode.github.io/is-angular-2-ready/ | Channel logs: http://goo.gl/8Wwttq | Be polite! ☃"
[09:49:39] <arlekin> yarc!
[09:49:43] <arlekin> Foxandxss: hi fox
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[09:49:51] <arlekin> Yet Another RC :P
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[09:50:52] <Preuk> \o/
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[09:53:17] <arlekin> Foxandxss: btw fox, is there some place to check current state of affairs with ng2 ? i mean, im not using it myself, but sometimes ppl come by and ask questions like "we are starting a new project, we go into production in 8 months, which angular we should go with"
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[09:53:45] <Foxandxss> No
[09:53:53] <arlekin> Foxandxss: shame
[09:53:55] <Foxandxss> but release will be (should be) this month
[09:54:04] <arlekin> Foxandxss: woah, like really ?
[09:54:11] <arlekin> Foxandxss: like the 2.0
[09:54:20] <arlekin> with capital 2 and capital 0 ?
[09:54:25] <arlekin> (and capital dot ofc)
[09:54:25] <Foxandxss> rc6 was supposedly the latest beta, but there was some minimal bugs (forms and AoT) so RC7 was released today
[09:54:34] <Foxandxss> now if this doesn't fail, will be renamed to final
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[09:55:18] <arlekin> Foxandxss: wow, i got so used to ng2 being some distant dream i always put it of for later, but now it seems i should start really checking it out like right now
[09:55:48] <Foxandxss> ng2 is done (of course more features to come after release)
[09:56:13] <arlekin> Foxandxss: im particularly glad, since i planned major rewrite of our product, and now i know i can do it straight into ng2
[09:56:32] <arlekin> (which will get the transition problem out of my hair)
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[09:56:54] <icebox> arlekin: back... does it make sense?
[09:57:02] <icebox> arlekin: sorry mistell
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[09:57:05] <Foxandxss> yes, it is a good moment
[09:57:11] <icebox> Aristy: does it make sense?
[09:57:13] <Foxandxss> also the community is working hard on third party stuff
[09:57:23] <arlekin> Foxandxss: christmas comes early this year!!!
[09:57:42] <arlekin> Foxandxss: im not particularly dependant on third parties ;) im pretty vanilla guy
[09:57:47] <icebox> arlekin: well... there is a google doc
[09:58:09] <arlekin> icebox: Fox already spread The Good News
[09:58:24] <arlekin> developer evangelism gets totally different meaning right now :P\
[09:58:39] <icebox> arlekin: l mean... about state of affairs... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rC5dz7AkCZP813daT_bccbS-20OLmXgBVi50CSKx148/pub
[09:59:03] <icebox> arlekin: ah ok... you asked for something different
[09:59:12] <arlekin> Foxandxss: quick question though - do all those awesome things promised really work already ? like angular cli and stuff ? i hear ppl had various mileage with that
[09:59:28] <Foxandxss> angular-cli will arrive shortly after release
[09:59:33] <Foxandxss> but is wonderful
[09:59:38] <arlekin> icebox: ;) btw you didn't answer me why put script tags on the bottom
[09:59:40] <Foxandxss> lazy loading by default
[09:59:48] <Foxandxss> AoT (offline compilation...)
[10:00:04] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: ♥
[10:00:11] <arlekin> Foxandxss: dude... you say those things... i'd follow you to black van without second thought just to know more
[10:00:24] <icebox> arlekin: missed that... because script tag blocks the loading of the page... better at the end
[10:00:37] <arlekin> icebox: i see
[10:00:45] <Aristy> @icebox: Yes it makes sense, so I need to use Angular.extend to prevent watchers from disappearing?
[10:00:49] <Foxandxss> that being said, third party starters will have all of that too
[10:00:52] <icebox> Aristy: yep
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[10:01:28] <icebox> Aristy: like in pitfalls link I suggested above
[10:01:46] <Aristy> @icebox: How do you empty an array with extend? Angular.extend(this.data, [])?
[10:01:50] <NYTimes> hello I am using $location.path(view); to change view in my controller so it goes from localhost/ to localhost/#/view and I want it to go to localhost/view
[10:02:03] <icebox> Aristy: myArray.length = 0; // :)
[10:02:06] <NYTimes> how do I delete the # ?
[10:02:45] <icebox> NYTimes: htm5 mode?
[10:02:56] <Aristy> @icebox: Okay :)
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[10:02:58] <NYTimes> icebox: sorry ?
[10:03:12] <icebox> NYTimes: set html5 mode
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[10:03:37] <NYTimes> ok I'll look into that
[10:03:53] <icebox> NYTimes: https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/$location
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[10:04:39] <NYTimes> icebox: $locationProvider.html5Mode(true).hashPrefix('*');
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[10:09:06] <icebox> Foxandxss: in npm it is not published rc.7 yet
[10:09:33] <Foxandxss> it is
[10:09:59] <icebox> Foxandxss: really? here it is not
[10:10:16] <arlekin> Foxandxss: im reading the quickstart on ng2 and i wonder, i invested some time and work into getting pretty good understanding on how ng1 does things etc, is there some resource which would explicitely allow me to harness this knowledge ? like some parallel explanation ?
[10:10:22] <Foxandxss> icebox: try installing it, no fear
[10:10:23] <Foxandxss> :P
[10:10:46] <Foxandxss> not officially arlekin
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[10:11:41] <icebox> Foxandxss: I am afraid package.json contains ... version: '2.0.0-rc.6'... but there is '2.0.0-rc.7' ], in versions
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[10:12:00] <Foxandxss> I don't understand
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[10:12:40] <arlekin> Foxandxss: well, officialy i could find it by myself couldn't i ;)
[10:12:47] <icebox> Foxandxss: npm view @angular/core... 'dist-tags': { latest: '2.0.0-rc.6', next: '2.0.0-rc.7' },
[10:13:00] <icebox> Foxandxss: version: '2.0.0-rc.6',
[10:13:24] <Foxandxss> yeah, that is weird because you can actually install .7
[10:13:37] <arlekin> ehh... i really wish that ng2 didn't support this 'class' madness
[10:14:03] <icebox> Foxandxss: yes... but you cannot see the update... if you installed rc.6 and then execute "npm out", there is not any message
[10:14:26] <Elarcis> I don't like the principle of 'index.js/ts/whatev'
[10:14:36] <Elarcis> they could have chosen a filename that puts it at the beginning
[10:14:36] <icebox> Foxandxss: devs need to update dist-tags
[10:14:41] <Elarcis> like __init__
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[10:14:51] <Foxandxss> update dist-tags?
[10:15:01] <Preuk> icebox: sure you didn't ask for exact version rc6?
[10:15:07] <Preuk> in package.json
[10:15:58] <Preuk> (stupid mistake i made during rc5 upgrade, took me a moment to realize i was missing a "^" one dependency)
[10:16:06] <Foxandxss> no, he is right
[10:16:13] <Foxandxss> oficially it appears rc.6 to be the latest
[10:16:17] <Foxandxss> even if you can install rc.7
[10:16:28] <icebox> Preuk: you are right, but it is another (minor) issue
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[10:16:33] <icebox> Preuk: on my side
[10:16:47] <icebox> Preuk: the point is npm view @angular/core
[10:17:14] <Preuk> hum... indeed rc7 is flagged "next", but it did update just right for me...
[10:17:29] <Preuk> guess my conf was already broken then
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[10:20:49] <arlekin> is picking up typescript on the go, along with discovering angular 2 spreading oneself thin ? i mean it all depends, surely, but whats your opinion ?
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[10:21:42] <arlekin> Elarcis: and what was that bundler you are always so fangirl about ? webpack ?
[10:22:04] <Elarcis> aryes
[10:22:07] <Elarcis> arlekin: yes
[10:22:12] <arlekin> cool
[10:23:07] <icebox> Foxandxss: I am afraid that is DOA... if I install rc.7, npm complains -- UNMET PEER DEPENDENCY rxjs at 5 dot 0.0-beta.12 due to npm WARN @angular/router at 3 dot 0.0-rc.2 requires a peer of rxjs at 5 dot 0.0-beta.11 but none was installed.
[10:23:20] <icebox> Foxandxss: but https://github.com/angular/angular/commit/cc7780adf7c15005cac313beb34a08ef01b5c8fd
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[10:23:55] <icebox> Foxandxss: I know those changes due to https://github.com/angular/angular/issues/11300
[10:24:19] <Foxandxss> install new router
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[10:24:42] <Foxandxss> rc3 one
[10:24:43] <Foxandxss> not rc2
[10:24:50] <Foxandxss> and bump rxjs and zone
[10:25:18] <icebox> Foxandxss: router... lates in npm... version: '3.0.0-rc.2',
[10:25:27] <Foxandxss> same issue as before
[10:25:32] <icebox> Foxandxss: yep... I see
[10:25:32] <Foxandxss> latest is rc.3
[10:25:43] <Foxandxss> compiler-cli is 0.6.1
[10:25:48] <Foxandxss> the rest is rc7 as normal
[10:25:59] <icebox> Foxandxss: what a mess... need to fill an issue about this?
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[10:26:46] <Foxandxss> it is not a mess
[10:26:54] <Foxandxss> rc7 was released an hour ago
[10:27:12] <Foxandxss> I put a message on the angular slack
[10:27:17] <icebox> Foxandxss: ok... thanks
[10:27:19] <Foxandxss> we have a channel for this kind of stuff
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[10:27:50] <Gobi_> Hi
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[10:36:20] <icebox> Foxandxss: migrated to rc.7 from rc.6. :) all is ok... only change: ng.core.Injectable().Class (in ES5) to ng.core.Class... nice api change
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[10:37:55] <uru> Foxandxss: Just updated here too with no issues rc.5 to rc.7
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[10:40:04] <earational> hey
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[10:46:12] <Preuk> still have this weird path resolution inconsistency between JiT and AoT mode, but rc7 runs fine here
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[10:48:20] <Foxandxss> icebox: you know (in a different project) how to push tags to git?
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[10:48:26] <Foxandxss> I need to create a version tag and also a latest tag
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[10:49:34] <icebox> Foxandxss: git push --tags
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[10:50:00] <Foxandxss> but I need to create them first, right?
[10:50:25] <icebox> Foxandxss: yes... git tag v1.0.0 and then git push --tags
[10:50:33] <Foxandxss> technically git tag is deprecated
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[10:51:01] <Foxandxss> nvm
[10:51:10] <icebox> Foxandxss: ah... good to know
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[10:51:14] <Foxandxss> no
[10:51:15] <Foxandxss> is npm tag
[10:51:19] <Foxandxss> different things
[10:51:27] <Foxandxss> git tag is not deprecated
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[10:51:49] <icebox> Foxandxss: ah ok :)
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[10:52:22] <icebox> Foxandxss: I played once with npm tags and dist-tags... I need to call npm admins to fix things :)
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[10:53:34] <Preuk> haha! looks like i'm not the only one wondering how templateUrl resolution works; from directives.d.ts: <!-- TODO: what's the url relative to? -->
[10:54:18] <icebox> Preuk: :P
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[11:03:37] <pier> !list
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[11:05:39] <arlekin> TJ... well fuck that guy
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[11:05:50] <arlekin> (but i mean, in the good way)
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[11:06:26] <arlekin> heard recently about stylus... im checking it out, scrolling down and who is the author ?
[11:06:40] <arlekin> of course TJ fucking Holowaychuk
[11:07:20] <arlekin> i wonder, maybe he invented a time-machine, or he is living in some place where a day lasts 30 hours or something...
[11:07:59] <arlekin> you can run from bugs, you can run from frameworks, you can even run from IE, but you can't run from TJ's code
[11:08:05] <arlekin> its everywhere
[11:08:12] <arlekin> THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!
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[11:09:26] <Pyrrhus666> nah, TJ is the cake.
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[11:09:56] <arlekin> TJ is a lie
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[11:10:15] <arlekin> i think maybe the person called TJ is just a frontman for a whole team of devs
[11:10:27] <arlekin> and its one big prank on the dev community
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[11:10:40] <arlekin> that would actually be awesome
[11:10:49] <Pyrrhus666> haha, yeah it would :)
[11:11:09] <Pyrrhus666> but who cares where the code comes from, it´s there to be used...
[11:13:10] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: true
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[11:18:32] <arlekin> on another note: fuck django's csrf handling
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[11:30:16] <arlekin> writing code is like having children
[11:30:29] <arlekin> in both cases you can fuck something into existence
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[11:34:04] <Pyrrhus666> also, in both cases you can fuck thing _up_.
[11:34:26] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: yUP
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[11:35:36] <Preuk> the problem with parenting is that we don't have unit testing, nor a test environment
[11:35:51] <Preuk> it's protoduction, can't be helped
[11:36:05] <arlekin> protoduction ?
[11:36:27] <arlekin> well, testing in production is well established tradition, ain't it ?
[11:36:28] <Pyrrhus666> from prototype directly to production ?
[11:36:33] <Preuk> prototype that goes to production, standard industry business pattern
[11:36:41] <arlekin> 'sides you can always make another version
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[11:37:02] <Pyrrhus666> pity it´s illegal to kill off the bug-ridden versions...
[11:37:03] <Preuk> arlekin: sometimes you have concurrent releases, maintenance is more complex
[11:37:43] <Preuk> Pyrrhus666: nor can you with most software :(
[11:37:54] <Pyrrhus666> all in all, there´s way too many releases...
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[11:38:23] <Pyrrhus666> ha, true. but the consequences are less dire. you can simply abandon...
[11:39:24] <Preuk> sometimes a new maintainer will take over
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[11:40:40] <Pyrrhus666> for a lot of instances that leads to a meager existence though
[11:41:03] <Pyrrhus666> have we taken this far enough now ? ;)
[11:41:32] <Preuk> ;)
[11:42:00] <Pyrrhus666> killing software seems possible thoughm just saw this : https://madfileformatscience.garymcgath.com/2016/09/08/libtiff-offline/
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[11:43:57] <Preuk> more JS-related, remember the leftpad drama (or was it rightpd? can't remember)
[11:44:16] <Pyrrhus666> haha, yes. I think it was leftpad.
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[11:48:26] <NYTimes> icebox: thank you
[11:48:53] <icebox> NYTimes: you are welcome
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[12:28:34] <cybertim> anyone has any experience with using angular2 in an extension (chrome, ff etc.) ? can't seem to figure out how to keep injectables persistent in the background and show views with the browser_action
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[12:30:41] <andygmb> Why does this behaviour happen with radio buttons? surely once you uncheck a radio button, the ng-value is unset on the ng-model and should be false..?
[12:30:41] <andygmb> http://plnkr.co/edit/Yv2wHlZ0MmXsjJOF2j5w?p=preview
[12:32:07] <andygmb> what fundamental thing am i misunderstanding here?
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[12:35:49] <Pyrrhus666> andygmb: a _set_ of radiobuttons should bind to _one_ model.
[12:36:11] <Pyrrhus666> what you´re doing here makes no sense...
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[12:36:40] <andygmb> how come?
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[12:37:14] <Pyrrhus666> because that´s what a radio-set is for. it represents _one_ value, or undefined if none is selected.
[12:38:26] <andygmb> is there somewhere in the docs you could point me to that explains this? sorry, just i've ran into this issue before and your answer is of course 100% correct but it's the first time i've seen it
[12:39:22] <Pyrrhus666> andygmb: it´s basic HTML. also it´s in the docs https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/input/input[radio]
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[12:40:41] <andygmb> I don't see anything there saying it should bind to one model?
[12:40:53] <Pyrrhus666> check the example
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[12:41:35] <andygmb> right but it's not said outright - I realise this may come off as stupid from myself but it just wasn't clicking for me that the set should have a single model
[12:42:02] <Pyrrhus666> it should have a single model _because_, as per HTML standard, a set represents _one_ value.
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[12:43:07] <andygmb> I realise that may be immediately obvious to yourself but it isn't to everyone
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[12:44:57] <Pyrrhus666> then they should read up on what a radio-set is _for_, from a UI perspective ;)
[12:47:40] <andygmb> shouldn't the documentation at least mention this rather than expecting people to infer it from the example? (I am creating a PR to add this clarification to the docs)
[12:48:55] <Preuk> andygmb: it is not related to angular, as Pyrrhus666 said it's standard HTML, you're supposed to know HTML to build UI
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[12:52:55] <Pyrrhus666> I just realised : in html you bind the set by name, in ng it seems it´s bound by the model. having both, and both defining a different set makes things go schizo :)
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[12:58:54] <lpkapil> where to get the angular js complete crud ?
[12:59:56] <icebox> Dependency Injection in Angular 1 and Angular 2: https://vsavkin.com/dependency-injection-in-angular-1-and-angular-2-d69589979c18#.gmh62noe6
[13:00:04] <Pyrrhus666> lpkapil: angular´s built-in $resource, or external libs like Restangular
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[13:01:12] <Foxandxss> $resource is bad
[13:01:13] <Foxandxss> dont use it
[13:01:45] <Pyrrhus666> I use restangular, but why is resource bad ?
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[13:03:55] <Foxandxss> more like an experiment to me
[13:04:10] <Foxandxss> but at the end is really inflexible
[13:04:23] <Foxandxss> $http is simply better
[13:06:30] <Pyrrhus666> it´s certainly more flexible, but $resource as a very simple subset of $http doesn´t sound ´bad´. but granted, the added value over simply using $http is small to non-existent.
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[13:07:21] <icebox> lpkapil: generally speaking, https://www.sitepoint.com/creating-crud-app-minutes-angulars-resource/
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[13:25:29] <daedeloth> greetings
[13:25:39] <daedeloth> is there a way to use forms without two way databinding a model?
[13:25:44] <daedeloth> (talking angular2 here)
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[13:33:49] <Pyrrhus666> can´t you simply bind with either () or [] instead of [()] and have it one way ? dunno why you´d want too...
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[13:37:26] <Elarcis> can't believe ng2 release is so soon <3
[13:37:53] <arlekin> Elarcis: the hype is real
[13:37:57] <Pyrrhus666> can´t wait for any post-release breaking changes :P
[13:38:09] <arlekin> Elarcis: i expect there would be some mini-io for thata
[13:39:03] <Elarcis> I hope the doc's up to the challenge though, I've stopped reading about ng2 since RC2 because I' don't have much time for it for now...
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[13:39:17] <arlekin> we all have faith in Foxandxss
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[13:40:02] <Foxandxss> post release BC, that will surely happen
[13:40:05] <Foxandxss> like in any other lib
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[13:41:02] <Pyrrhus666> true. but seeing as most of RC was actually alpha, I´ll treat the .0 release as beta :P
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[14:21:38] <anil> \join
[14:21:49] <anil> hello
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[14:22:29] <Pyrrhus666> 12 seconds must be some kind of record...
[14:22:56] <senayar> ;)
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[14:24:58] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: nah, we had better
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[14:34:34] <xinming> Hi, I'm stuck on understaind the tutorials on HTTP about "Subject and Observer interactions", Anyone here would clarify for me?
[14:34:47] <xinming> What I mean is for internal.
[14:35:22] <xinming> "Subject and Observable"
[14:36:07] <xinming> It's easy to understand that each time we call search on heroService, It'll try to access the url, and return an observable.
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[14:38:43] <xinming> But for Subject, this.searchTerms.debounce(..).distinctUntilChanged().swtichMap(...); The searchTerms attribute is initialized only once. How does searchTerms to initialized the heroes: Observable<Hero[]> multiple times?
[14:39:05] <xinming> This part is really confusing, Though I know what it does. But I can't think how that was handled internally.
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[14:43:44] <Elarcis> xinming: it's all about timeouts :D
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[14:45:09] <roadrunneratwast> Hey I am going to switch my backend to Flask, which uses the Jinja templating system, which uses{{ for variable interpolation. This conflicts with Angular 1.x. I can reset the delimiters in Flask, but I don't know what are safe characters to use in Angular 2.x, which uses "[" and perhaps other characters too as delimeters. Any suggestions?
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[14:47:21] <Pyrrhus666> other than really exotic characters (like the UTF8 snowman or pile-of-poo) I don´t know what could be considered ´safe´. having multiple levels of interpolation always makes my head hurt :)
[14:47:47] <Pyrrhus666> doesn´t flask support escaping of th {} that should be spared for angular to see ?
[14:48:14] <Pyrrhus666> I guess escaping would be ´safest´.
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[14:48:42] <ngWalrus> []()*#{}
[14:48:54] <ngWalrus> are the ones I know ng2 uses
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[14:55:20] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: or basically any character that could pair in any part of the template
[14:56:02] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: so any operator: !?:=<>, etc.
[14:56:16] <roadrunneratwast> Pyrrhus666: what do you mean by "escaping"?
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[14:56:42] <roadrunneratwast> like literally escape-bracket-escape-bracket for the interpolations?
[14:56:46] <Pyrrhus666> roadrunneratwast: using an escape character to signal flask it should not interpolate.
[14:56:58] <roadrunneratwast> but flask does interpolate
[14:57:09] <roadrunneratwast> oh i see
[14:57:19] <roadrunneratwast> like tell the server to wait for the client
[14:57:20] <roadrunneratwast> ugh
[14:57:20] <roadrunneratwast> no
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[14:58:04] <roadrunneratwast> ngWalrus: what else is left. yuck.
[14:58:20] <roadrunneratwast> tilde?
[14:59:43] <Pyrrhus666> {{ '{{' }}
[14:59:57] <Pyrrhus666> that´s what flask gives you. congrats, it sucks ;)
[15:00:13] <Pyrrhus666> s/flask/jinja/
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[15:00:23] <Pyrrhus666> http://jinja.pocoo.org/docs/dev/templates/ search for ´escaping´
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[15:01:20] <Pyrrhus666> ah, see. {% raw %} {{angularfoo}} {% endraw %} will also work... not much better
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[15:02:37] <angrybacon> roadrunneratwast Back when I was dealing with Django + AngularJS I think I just used [[ ]] in AngularJS
[15:02:58] <nimomo> Hi, I've changed my AngularJS app to work with html5mode and now I'm trying to cause to nodejs web server to run "localhost:8000/dashboard/2" instead of "localhost:8000/index.html/#!/dashboard/2" as before. Could anyone please assist how to make it? Here is the web-server script - https://dpaste.de/m0OG
[15:03:44] <roadrunneratwast> angrybacon, you can't use the '[' anymore, because it is a special character in angular 2. can you use the
[15:03:46] <roadrunneratwast> [[
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[15:04:23] <roadrunneratwast> Will the lexer recognize the '[[' as not '['<angular statement>
[15:04:24] <angrybacon> roadrunneratwast Oh sorry, didn't realize it was ng2
[15:04:32] <angrybacon> I was using ng1
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[15:05:55] <Elarcis> roadrunneratwast: or use ng-bind instead of {{ }} :D
[15:06:03] <Elarcis> roadrunneratwast: ah, ng2
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[15:06:57] <Elarcis> roadrunneratwast: I believe you have a wai in jinja to change the interpolation operator
[15:07:02] <Elarcis> *way
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[15:10:37] <nimomo> How do you run Angularjs app on localhost? what are the web servers you use?
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[15:11:50] <smiche> if you're using npm you can try express or lite-server
[15:11:52] <icebox> nimomo: modejs
[15:12:02] <icebox> nimomo: nodejs, express
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[15:12:36] <nimomo> icebox: could you please share with me an example for running angularjs app?
[15:12:52] <nimomo> for some reason it works for me just on hashtag mode
[15:13:18] <icebox> nimomo: it is one line... app.use(staticFiles(routes.config.staticFiles));
[15:13:55] <nimomo> icebox: I use this - https://dpaste.de/m0OG#L11 . Should I change it?
[15:14:13] <nimomo> and I'm not sure how to use this line
[15:14:15] <icebox> nimomo: where staticFiles is express.static, and routes.config.staticFiles contain the route definitions
[15:14:29] <icebox> nimomo: no idea... too long to read, sorry
[15:14:59] <nimomo> so I have to install also Express in addition to nodejs?
[15:15:36] <icebox> nimomo: but there is not any special configuration for using or not using hash char
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[15:15:48] <ngWalrus> 2,6k lines of css code that I have to go through
[15:16:02] <ngWalrus> fun fun fun
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[15:16:32] <nimomo> icebox: when I use #! it redirect to the right page but on html5mode it doesn't find the page.
[15:16:49] <icebox> nimomo: don't use #!
[15:17:24] <nimomo> It's what I'm trying to do.. to remove the #! from the application
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[15:17:46] <icebox> nimomo: I mean, you url don't need to conaint #!
[15:17:54] <icebox> nimomo: *yourl urls
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[15:18:05] <nimomo> but the app was developed with this
[15:18:10] <nimomo> and now I'm trying to remove
[15:18:20] <icebox> nimomo: you need to change that if you need to remove #!
[15:18:25] <nimomo> and when I remove the #! from the URL the page is not found
[15:18:37] <nimomo> to change what?
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[15:18:43] <icebox> nimomo: the url
[15:18:59] <nimomo> what are you talking about? the url in the browser?
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[15:19:12] <icebox> nimomo: ?
[15:19:26] <icebox> nimomo: recap...
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[15:19:49] <icebox> nimomo: I understand you have configured the app to work with localhost:8000/dashboard/2
[15:20:09] <nimomo> While I run http://localhost:8000/dashboard/2 I get an error that the page is not found.
[15:20:14] <icebox> nimomo: but you see localhost:8000/index.html/#!/dashboard/2
[15:20:25] <icebox> nimomo: ok
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[15:20:36] <icebox> nimomo: if you get that error it is because the routes are not configured correctly
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[15:20:47] <nimomo> no, sorry. Before that the app worked with #!
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[15:21:11] <icebox> nimomo: the reply is the same :) the routes are not configured correctly
[15:21:46] <nimomo> the routes in the $routeProvider config?
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[15:22:05] <icebox> nimomo: not found is not found... you need to debug it... give a look at devtools network tab... to see the real url called
[15:22:22] <nimomo> I need a way to cause it to call to index.html
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[15:22:51] <icebox> nimomo: checkpoints: routes on frontend, endpoints on backend, rewrite rules
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[15:24:36] <nimomo> icebox: Before the change I could include the index.html before the hashtag and the server know to redirect it properly.. now it's not clear for me where should it be included
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[15:26:22] <nimomo> How can I call to index.html?
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[15:27:04] <icebox> nimomo: http://localhost:8000/ ?
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[15:28:02] <icebox> nimomo: https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/$location
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[15:33:48] <Preuk> haha! GWT did package a new RC too!
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[15:34:14] <Preuk> ... one year late, with nothing but compatibility fixes and deprecation of useful stuff
[15:35:21] <Pyrrhus666> gwt ? I thought that was all but abandoned ?
[15:35:36] <Preuk> Pyrrhus666: "I'm not quite dead yet!"
[15:35:37] <Pyrrhus666> the idea was cool at the time though...
[15:35:46] <Pyrrhus666> Preuk: hehe, yeah :)
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[15:36:31] <Preuk> we still have our frontend based on GWT, that's why I'm pretty eager to see ng2 final release :)
[15:37:00] <Preuk> we're migrating some specific parts of the application, but most of it is yet to rewrite
[15:37:05] <Pyrrhus666> you´re alread building it, aren´t you ?
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[15:37:14] <Pyrrhus666> +y
[15:37:19] <Preuk> but we lack "real" frontend devs
[15:37:54] <Preuk> Pyrrhus666: yes, we're about to release some external read-only part of the app with ng2
[15:38:50] <Pyrrhus666> nice :)
[15:39:10] <Preuk> that's the problem when you start a new project and use "mature" tech; by the time your project is "mature", support tech is obsolete
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[15:39:53] <Pyrrhus666> haha, yeah, that tends to happen with the more volatile stuff like ui frameworks.
[15:40:08] <Preuk> ergo, ng2
[15:40:29] <Preuk> we should go live in a month or two, so we're in sync[3~
[15:40:50] <Pyrrhus666> your app should be good for about a year or two then :P
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[15:42:04] <Preuk> maybe ... not even sure we can manage, we can't find good frontend devs around here
[15:42:45] <Pyrrhus666> heh, can´t find good backend devs either ;) where´s ´here´ for you ?
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[15:44:33] <Preuk> eastern France, but pretty far from main dev areas (between Luxembourg and German/Swiss border)
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[15:44:59] <Pyrrhus666> isn´t that the jura area ?
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[15:45:38] <icebox> we should constitute an angular community remote team :)
[15:46:02] <Preuk> Pyrrhus666: Lorraine, Nancy to be accurate
[15:46:16] <Preuk> 100km from 2 big employment areas, we're dry ;)
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[15:47:49] <Preuk> icebox: could be nice ... but I'm afraid we're not ready for pure remote
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[15:48:51] <Pyrrhus666> ah, more to the north. been in nancy in my youth, en route to vosges national parc.
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[15:49:25] <Preuk> yeah, love Vosges too, nice place to hike
[15:50:46] <Pyrrhus666> it´s been 30 odd years, but from what I remember it was very nice. my parents dragged me to a lot of ´parc national´s (and I loved it)
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[15:52:56] <Preuk> Vercors parc is amazing too
[15:53:25] <Pyrrhus666> been there. in my memory I loved vanoise the most. so incredibly beautiful and desolate.
[15:53:38] <Preuk> a bit too rocky for me ;)
[15:54:19] <Pyrrhus666> haha, yes, certainly compared to vosges :) I like my mountains high and bald ;)
[15:55:01] <Pyrrhus666> (compensating for living in flatland, a.k.a. the netherlands....)
[15:55:33] <Elarcis> switching a lot of the app's code to Typescript and true OOP architecture
[15:55:44] <Elarcis> it's a bliss <3
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[15:57:46] <Preuk> Elarcis: first shot is always free
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[16:07:14] <frappy_> hI
[16:07:17] <frappy_> is there any working channel for selenium?
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[16:09:52] <icebox> frappy_: no
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[16:10:05] <frappy_> ok thanks
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[16:15:50] <boxmein> hey. i'm obviously doing something wrong but I really want to reimplement <select multiple> by doing <div ng-repeat="option in userSelection"><select ng-options="option.name for option in allAvailableOptions | filter:notUsedYet"></select></div>
[16:16:30] <boxmein> when the user selects anything from the <select>, a local digest happens and the local value updates, however the userSelection value doesn't
[16:16:43] <boxmein> so I added ng-change="updateUserSelection($index, value)" which just assigns to userSelection
[16:17:31] <boxmein> now it updates the userSelection too, but after removing and re-creating the <select>, the <select> has the "?" value selected by default, not the model's actual value
[16:17:47] <boxmein> while rendering any object in JSON here shows the correct value
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[16:26:24] <icebox> boxmein: generally speaking, https://www.undefinednull.com/2014/08/11/a-brief-walk-through-of-the-ng-options-in-angularjs/
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[16:27:02] <icebox> boxmein: you may provide a minimal working plunker reproducing the issue
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[16:28:00] <CuriousJack> hello everyone, one quick question, if there is anyone who knows, for how long is angular 1.5 going to be supported
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[16:28:18] <icebox> CuriousJack: until there is interest :)
[16:28:47] <Pyrrhus666> icebox: s/until/as long as/ ;)
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[16:28:59] <angrybacon> "We'll continue releasing Angular 1 releases until the vast majority of you migrate to Angular 2,"
[16:29:07] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: thanks
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[16:29:21] <CuriousJack> I see
[16:29:27] <Pyrrhus666> it´ll be a long while yet, I suppose...
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[16:29:54] <icebox> angrybacon: thanks... written in a blog post... http://angularjs.blogspot.it/
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[16:30:35] <icebox> CuriousJack: in terms of time... I think at least for two years
[16:30:41] <angrybacon> Just C/P from a SO answer, most likely taken out of this
[16:30:57] <icebox> CuriousJack: what is your concern?
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[16:31:34] <CuriousJack> well we are deciding on frontend framework for long term project
[16:32:03] <CuriousJack> and we are somewhat scared of angular 2 introducing instabilities on updates
[16:32:23] <mst> so you're scared of angular1 because it's stable, and scared of angular2 because it isn't
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[16:32:26] <CuriousJack> and front end work begins in a month
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[16:32:28] <Preuk> CuriousJack: ng2 is not yet released, it was expected that beta/RC would break things
[16:32:44] <Preuk> (maybe not as mush, but still ;))
[16:32:45] <CuriousJack> i know that :D
[16:33:11] <icebox> CuriousJack: go for ng1... at the moment, out there, devs are skilled on ng1...
[16:33:54] <CuriousJack> I think that is what is going to happen
[16:33:58] <icebox> CuriousJack: you can write ng1 apps following best practices, where the upgrade may be smoothly in the future
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[16:34:27] <icebox> CuriousJack: I recommend to read Todd Motto's code style guide
[16:34:49] <icebox> CuriousJack: https://toddmotto.com/rewriting-angular-styleguide-angular-2
[16:35:11] <[1]David> hi, is it common practice to have a controller for the structure of your application - navbars etc and then a separate controller for each view?
[16:35:29] <icebox> [1]David: yes, it is
[16:35:37] <[1]David> cool thanks
[16:36:47] <angularjs991> i'm not a fan of dependency injection in es6 classes, muddies up my constructor fn. is there a cleaner way of injecting >5 angular dependencies? was thinking a decorator pattern of some kind...not sure
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[16:37:16] <CuriousJack> thanks icebox for the link
[16:37:18] <icebox> angularjs991: do you mean using ES5 with angular 2?
[16:37:22] <angularjs991> es6 with 1.5
[16:37:24] <icebox> CuriousJack: you are welcome
[16:37:47] <icebox> angularjs991: the state of art is https://toddmotto.com/rewriting-angular-styleguide-angular-2
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[16:38:50] <angularjs991> yeah i've read it. todd motto has some great stuff. i just haven't been able to find a clean way of doing DI with es6 classes yet. work in an enterprise setting with massive amounts of dependencies
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[16:39:42] <icebox> angularjs991: if you don't like DI, you need to use an anti pattern... whatever it is...
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[16:40:06] <icebox> angularjs991: this is the latest resource about DI: Dependency Injection in Angular 1 and Angular 2: https://vsavkin.com/dependency-injection-in-angular-1-and-angular-2-d69589979c18#.gmh62noe6
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[16:42:21] <angularjs991> icebox: thanks! it's looking like i'll have to implement a custom decorator pattern to get what i want.
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[16:45:58] <icebox> angularjs991: maybe you may fill an issue in Todd Motto's repo about that (very legit) need... just to get a different opinion
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[16:48:22] <icebox> sigh... he quit... I found https://github.com/toddmotto/angular-styleguide/issues/85
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[16:53:33] <icebox> off... bye
[16:53:44] <Pyrrhus666> bye !
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[17:01:07] <durin_> hey guys i need your experience. wich case is better? http://pastebin.com/eiAu42Gf
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[17:01:25] <sparrow5> can you run typescript without systemjs or commonjs?
[17:01:42] <sparrow5> I mean just like regular javascript
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[17:02:17] <Preuk> sparrow5: as long as you transpile to js first, i'd say yes
[17:02:19] <sparrow5> I am trying to make atom transpile a .ts file but it shows Oudated JS
[17:02:48] <Preuk> caching issue?
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[17:03:03] <sparrow5> https://thepb.in/p/vghOJOlMBynF3
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[17:03:58] <sparrow5> I copied the above form the typescript official website Preuk
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[17:05:16] <durin_> you can see, the first way, is my normal way to do chaining but, my promise is never going to be resolved, and the function then(null,null,notiy..) is very ugly
[17:05:17] <[1]David> i keep getting TypeError: UserService.GetCurrent is not a function, i call it in one of my controllers which for some reason is different to the rest. it has $injection for UserService
[17:05:20] <[1]David> any ideas?
[17:05:44] <durin_> the second one is not able to chaining, and its different to all my others functions
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[17:05:53] <durin_> and the third one is, very spooky
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[17:13:13] <sparrow5> atom builds a ts file successfuly and all is green yet .ts file doesn't transpile to .js file?
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[17:15:47] <Preuk> sparrow5: have you looked in filesytem for your tsc.js file?
[17:15:54] <Preuk> you might have a context issue
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[17:20:52] <durin_> !help
[17:20:53] <uru> durin_: I am not a bot! (promise)
[17:20:53] <angularjs_bot> AngularJS Plunker template http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS
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[17:23:24] <durin_> http://pastebin.com/eiAu42Gf i hpoe paste bin is good as well
[17:23:34] <Preuk> uru.then(greet());
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[17:26:42] <uru> :)
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[17:27:14] <durin_> why all flirt with bots?
[17:27:37] <uru> Because bots are sexy?
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[17:56:38] <Naruki> Howdy
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[17:57:07] <Naruki> Trying to follow the Quick Start guide (https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/quickstart.html) and getting stymied right off the bat
[17:57:28] <Preuk> Naruki: how so?
[17:57:38] <Naruki> Running Xenial (16.04), and the node "installer" is just a tarball
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[17:58:07] <Naruki> so I download it, extract to my dev folder, add ~/dev/node/bin to my path, and NPM won't work
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[17:58:44] <bd-> i would install nvm
[17:58:48] <Naruki> after looking around and trying things, ran an apt install of some sort that I think re-installed node to the global
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[17:58:50] <bd-> https://github.com/creationix/nvm
[17:58:56] <Preuk> "won't work"?
[17:59:00] <bd-> remove global node/npm install
[17:59:09] <bd-> and then install nvm and use that to manage node/npm installs
[17:59:18] <da_wunder> nvm is just great
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[17:59:24] <da_wunder> just like ncu
[17:59:25] <Preuk> bd-: i could use that, i usualy setup my env by hand
[17:59:34] <mst> I just extracted the tarball under ~/local/
[17:59:56] <bd-> nvm is great but.... it makes it take longer to spawn a bash shell and it doesn't work too well with fish shell
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[18:00:23] <Naruki> but then @mst, I use ~/dev, but the same thing I think
[18:00:30] <mst> yes
[18:00:34] <Naruki> (sorry about "but then")
[18:00:57] <Naruki> I saw references to an install script that I didn't have in the tarball
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[18:02:15] <Naruki> this was one of the steps I used that I think finally got npm working: sudo apt-get install build-essential libssl-dev curl
[18:02:50] <Naruki> would have really helped if they had installation instructions there, but...
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[18:04:14] <Naruki> in any event, npm seems to be working, and I progressed down that quick start guide to the part where you create 4 files and run npm install
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[18:05:17] <Naruki> that one throws a bunch of "EventEmitter memory leak" warnings as well as several "UNMET PEER DEPENDENCY" errors
[18:05:51] <Naruki> at this point I give up and come here
[18:05:53] <Naruki> :-)
[18:06:19] <da_wunder> Naruki: that guide contains links how to install node
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[18:06:35] <Naruki> yes, I followed those links
[18:06:55] <Naruki> If I were on Windows or Mac I'd probably be okay
[18:06:55] <da_wunder> Naruki: and if you want a real head start with ng2 i recommend https://github.com/mgechev/angular2-seed/
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[18:07:55] <Naruki> I'll check that one out next, da_wunder
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[18:08:08] <Cartesianfox> Hi there
[18:08:19] <xinming> mst: Could you explain the internal of Subject/Obsersable thing please?
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[18:08:28] <xinming> I just don't understand how they worked internally.
[18:08:48] <xinming> I asked question several horus ago, but sleep at the computer. :-S
[18:09:01] <da_wunder> Naruki: and really i recommend of usage of nvm
[18:09:10] <mst> xinming: I'm not sure I entirely understand the question
[18:09:28] <xinming> and when I woke up, the people answered "all about timeout", and I can't find him
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[18:09:56] <da_wunder> quick install 1) open shell 2) sudo curl -sL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/creationix/nvm/v0.31.0/install.sh | bash 3) close shell and reopen shell 4) nvm use 6
[18:10:09] <xinming> But for Subject, this.searchTerms.debounce(..).distinctUntilChanged().swtichMap(...); The searchTerms attribute is initialized only once. How does searchTerms to initialized the heroes: Observable<Hero[]> multiple times?
[18:10:13] <Naruki> da_wunder, I'm not sure if you saw that I AM using npm
[18:10:18] <xinming> This is where I got confused
[18:10:34] <da_wunder> Naruki: i'm talking about nvm
[18:10:45] <xinming> I get confused on how this.heroes are initialized correctly.
[18:10:47] <Naruki> oh, I misread that
[18:10:55] <Naruki> thought it was "nevermind"
[18:11:40] <da_wunder> :D
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[18:12:05] <xinming> mst: Did you read the tutorial?
[18:12:07] <Naruki> hmm, it's already installed in ~/.nvm
[18:12:19] <mst> xinming: I think the last angular2 tutorial I read has had everything renamed since
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[18:12:47] <xinming> mst: Ok, WIll wait someone who read that can answer my question. :-)
[18:12:51] <mst> link the current one?
[18:12:52] <xinming> Thanks anyway for your time.
[18:12:57] <xinming> https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/tutorial/toh-pt6.html
[18:14:11] <Cartesianfox> Hi there, sorry to pop in during your discussion, but I'm seeking for some help, about angular's resolve. Here's my problem : https://pastiebin.com/57d82579c3904
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[18:15:18] <xinming> The confusing part is about the Observable and Subject.
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[18:15:31] <xinming> I know what they do, But I'm curious how they worked internanly
[18:15:36] <xinming> internally*
[18:15:51] <Naruki> @da_wunder, is nvm just for managing versions of node? That won't help me fix the problems with the quickstart guide, I think
[18:16:28] <da_wunder> Naruki: it might be depending on some node version
[18:16:42] <da_wunder> and also that guide might be a bit outdated
[18:16:55] <da_wunder> that's why i linked you that angular2-seed project
[18:16:56] <Naruki> Heh. It's their own website
[18:17:06] <Naruki> okay, I'll try that now, then
[18:17:53] <da_wunder> Naruki: and if you want the latest docs just use https://github.com/angular/angular.io
[18:17:59] <Naruki> man, I must have half a dozen projects started and then have to abandon them. I'm never gonna learn this crap. :-)
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[18:18:13] <da_wunder> because actual angular.io site is always behind that git repo
[18:19:20] <Naruki> Thanks! I'll get right on it
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[18:32:47] <tristanp> so i know i can create an element with angular goodness using `$compile`. but can i take an existing normal dom element and add angular goodness? in this case i want to add ng-style to an existing part of a non-angular widget
[18:33:18] <mst> xinming: ok, so what're you confused by?
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[18:35:05] <mst> xinming: (keyup)="search(searchBox.value)" <- calls the search method, which adds the new search to the stream, which propagates through the observable stuff to make a new search
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[18:35:44] <xinming> mst: I udnerstand this part. Since searchTerm is not changed a all.
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[18:35:52] <mst> sorry?
[18:35:59] <xinming> What I'm confused is, ngOnInit
[18:36:04] <mst> searchTerm is the stream of terms, the .next() call in search pushes a new term into it
[18:36:06] <xinming> the heroes are initialized to the Subject result.
[18:36:16] <xinming> mst: I understand this part.
[18:36:36] <xinming> But here, How is this.heroes automatically reflected to new things?
[18:36:37] <mst> heroes is initialized to an observable
[18:36:58] <mst> so will be recalculated when the observable's source changes, which happens when searchTerm gets a new event
[18:37:47] <mst> it's not just returning an array of hero, it's returning an Observable.of<Hero[]>
[18:37:59] <mst> so angular ... observes it
[18:38:00] <xinming> I can follow ATM
[18:38:01] <bd-> xinming: something calls .next(...) on a Subject and that new value gets propagated to all the Obervables's listeners via the subscribe callback
[18:38:31] <mst> xinming: so this.heroes is the observable, not just an array.
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[18:38:39] <mst> xinming: so things using it, subscribe to it, so they're notified on change
[18:38:42] <xinming> but there is something I'm still in confusing.
[18:38:55] <xinming> I can't tell. but let me think for a while.
[18:39:09] <mst> it's a bit mind bending to get used to
[18:39:19] <mst> async stream composition is awesome
[18:39:25] <mst> but, yeah, your brain hurts to start with
[18:40:21] <xinming> Actually, I do understand, that subject handles, when to "start/stop" queue of the events. And Observable to handle the real job. This is what I can understand.
[18:40:32] <xinming> Where I'm confused is, how do they achive this internally
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[18:41:15] <xinming> This is where I feel confusing. And I'm kind of person who can't use it well if I don't know the internal.
[18:41:36] <bd-> hold an array of subscribers, dispatch new values to each subscriber via a callback
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[18:42:21] <bd-> xinming: it uses rxjs if you want to go look at that and see how it works https://github.com/Reactive-Extensions/RxJS
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[18:44:42] <xinming> bd-: Thanks. :-)
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[18:45:10] <xinming> I think I'm get confused with the event loop.
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[19:01:07] <g_> hello
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[19:12:43] <dessm> Hi there, I am using angular 1.58 together with rails and ui-router and am trying to figure out how I can redirect to a different state without rendering a template. I tried using preventDefault but ui-router/angular still seems to look for a template (which I don't need, since the whole purpose of this particular state is to redirect to another). Any help or pointers on where I could learn more about this (aside from the official do
[19:12:48] <dessm> would be greatly appreciated
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[19:17:01] <sparrow5> Preuk_away: it does the job but it the built folder is located elsewhere
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[19:34:26] <notarobot> do people actually talk here
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[19:34:42] <sparrow5> notarobot: no
[19:34:54] <notarobot> ah cool
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[19:35:09] <notarobot> guess I'll leave. peace!
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[19:35:13] <sparrow5> notarobot: I think that most people have adopted some form of behavior that has no logical basis. Mimicry if you say.
[19:36:01] <sparrow5> I think westerners have got bored with too much rational approach to life they like to deviate from their establish common behavior by doing nonsense
[19:36:21] <sparrow5> like running an irc channel without serving the purpose it's been created for?
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[19:52:59] <lacrymology> I need a consistent way of handling the brand button: it's supposed to a) if I'm in a different view than the index view, change to the index view (and update the URL accordingly), and b) if it's in the index view, which has some search parameters, clear all search parameters. Almost but not all views have their own URL, so setting the $location is not enough (which is what we're doing now)
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[20:24:24] <tomzx> hello, I have a bit of text in a scope variable which I’d like to use as if it was interpolable, so for example $scope.x = ‘some of {{my}} content’; where I’d like {{my}} to be interpolated based on the scope’s value, what should I do with $scope.x to make that possible (if it is)?
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[20:55:29] <Guest15002> hey guys just wondering if anyone could help answer the question https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39462319/angular-1-5-routingngroute-refresh-reload-issue-in-mvc-5/39462494?noredirect=1#comment66266015_39462494
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[21:24:27] <Sagar> hi
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[21:26:41] <Sagar> anyone up?
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[21:26:47] <Sagar> how do we validate ng length?
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[21:34:06] <da_wunder> Sagar: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngMinlength ?
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[21:34:51] <da_wunder> Sagar: and if you need to validate array length see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22153552/angularjs-validate-form-array-length
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[21:37:43] <Sagar> da_wunder i want to check
[21:37:46] <Sagar> at the side of function
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[21:38:16] <Sagar> <input ng-model="user.phone" name="phone"><button ng-click="check(user)"></button>
[21:38:24] <Sagar> if (user.phone.length < 8) { show error }
[21:38:39] <da_wunder> 22:34 < da_wunder> Sagar: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngMinlength ?
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[21:39:18] <Sagar> That will do the side of form and not angular script
[21:39:33] <Sagar> i want to do that in $scope.user = function(user) { if (user.phone.length < 8) { show error } }
[21:39:43] <Sagar> i want to do that in $scope.check = function(user) { if (user.phone.length < 8) { show error } }
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[21:46:15] <da_wunder> Sagar: something like this https://plnkr.co/edit/X7l8ZtPeuAtPM5cWR0Mn?p=preview
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[21:47:13] <Sagar> da_wunder: i am ok on the site of angular on my host
[21:48:07] <da_wunder> what ?
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[21:48:14] <Sagar> i want to validate it via the function
[21:48:20] <Sagar> like this $scope.check = function(user) { if (user.phone.length < 8) { show error } }
[21:48:20] <da_wunder> why ?
[21:48:34] <da_wunder> did you see that plunker that i just give you
[21:48:38] <Sagar> Yes
[21:48:44] <da_wunder> it has the functionality what you're looking for
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[21:49:10] <Sagar> da_wunder: i want to check it at both end
[21:49:13] <Sagar> because
[21:49:21] <da_wunder> in both end ?
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[21:49:38] <da_wunder> submit button is disabled as long as the form is in invalid state
[21:49:56] <Sagar> see that is ok
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[21:50:05] <Sagar> but the ajax requests is called via check() function
[21:50:11] <Sagar> which can be run via calling it in console
[21:50:19] <Sagar> that is why i want to validate the things in $scope as well
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[21:51:29] <da_wunder> then ng-click="check()" and in your controller $scope.check = function() { $http.post().then(function(response) { console.log('success'); }).catch(function() { console.log('error'); });
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[21:51:56] <da_wunder> or just make custom async validation on that input
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[21:52:40] <da_wunder> like this https://plnkr.co/edit/?p=preview
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[21:54:08] <Sagar> da_wunder: like i told u, chekc() is accessable via console
[21:54:14] <Sagar> i want to make validation in check() as well
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[21:54:37] <da_wunder> Sagar: that ng-disabled handles that for you...
[21:54:52] <da_wunder> you _cannot_ submit that form _if_ form is in invalid state
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[21:55:09] <Sagar> da_wunder: i am taking about the hacker way
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[21:55:28] <Sagar> Hackers can easily make use check() function
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[21:55:37] <Sagar> so i want to secure that as well, that is what i want saying
[21:55:47] <da_wunder> Sagar: you need to make final check _always_ on your backend
[21:55:54] <Sagar> I have made that
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[21:56:39] <da_wunder> so if someone "hacks" that check function, backend will fail, and then your $http request should get error and success
[21:56:57] <Sagar> :|
[21:56:59] <da_wunder> and not success
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[21:57:06] <Sagar> Can't u help me witht he check as well?
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[21:59:05] <da_wunder> 22:51 < da_wunder> then ng-click="check()" and in your controller $scope.check = function() { $http.post().then(function(response) { console.log('success'); }).catch(function() { console.log('error'); });
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[21:59:53] <Sagar> thanks!
[21:59:54] <Sagar> :|
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[22:13:31] <ARandomFurry> Herro!
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[22:15:40] <ARandomFurry> [Angular2, TypeScript]: I'm having trouble handling changes to an objects in an array, KeyValueDiffers isn't seeing the changes.
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[23:00:22] <Rolenun> oh angular2 RC7, how you mock me! let me count the ways...
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[23:00:56] <ARandomFurry> Rolenun; is that a pun, saying they finally added ngMock for testing?
[23:01:12] <Rolenun> lol, no, but that's funny :D
[23:01:53] <Rolenun> they broke my nested components...now it comes up with recursion errors (firefox only, the rest just hang) hehehe
[23:02:28] <Rolenun> so technically, it could be infinite ngMocks :D
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[23:02:57] <ARandomFurry> Darn!
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[23:06:38] <ARandomFurry> oh hey; Rolenun. Mayhaps you could help me?
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[23:07:25] <ARandomFurry> I'm passing an array of objects [{}, {}, {}] to a component (@input), but I'm having some issues with change detection when properties of those objects change.
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[23:15:31] <Rolenun> ARandomFurry: http://plnkr.co/edit/?p=preview See the Counter Spy example
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[23:22:14] <ARandomFurry> Rolenun; Thanks!
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[23:22:35] <ARandomFurry> Rolenun; However, I think that's the wrong link.
[23:22:49] <Rolenun> nah, there's just a ton of components heh
[23:23:04] <ARandomFurry> I mean; that's the generic url for plnkr.
[23:23:04] <Rolenun> check the left side and look for spy.component.*
[23:23:17] <Rolenun> oh, LOL
[23:23:26] <ARandomFurry> :)
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[23:23:42] <Rolenun> https://angular.io/resources/live-examples/lifecycle-hooks/ts/plnkr.html
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[23:24:17] <ARandomFurry> Thanks!
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[23:26:19] <Rolenun> er, counter.component.ts....it sends change updates between the parent and child components
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[23:26:46] * ARandomFurry giggles a bit.
[23:26:48] <ARandomFurry> Tired?
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[23:27:21] <Rolenun> been chasing my tail for the better part of 10 hours....my IDE keeps telling me directives were removed lol
[23:27:35] <ARandomFurry> Which ide?
[23:27:43] <Rolenun> visual studio :D
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[23:28:09] <ARandomFurry> Nice split.
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[23:28:21] <ARandomFurry> Rolenun; Ah! How is that? I'm using WebStorm.
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[23:29:12] <Rolenun> I'm a huge VS fan, though with the lack of quality guides, it can be challenging for someone new :)
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[23:30:54] <Rolenun> my build is VS 2015 + angular2 RC7 + webpack + angular2-material. fun to test dev the code :)
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[23:31:31] <Rolenun> ARandomFurry: the community version is free btw, so feel free to try it
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[23:32:15] <ARandomFurry> Rolenun; We use Webstorm at work, and I happen to enjoy it a lot :)
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[23:32:21] <Rolenun> great!
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[23:33:36] <Rolenun> I've heard webstorm is quite good too, I've just used VS for too many years....I cant leave lol
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[23:34:17] <ARandomFurry> I understand!
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[23:36:24] <fellayaboy> is angularjs suppose to be similar to php & asp? - a dynamic server side scripting language?
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[23:37:57] <mst> no
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[23:52:41] <kami> Good evening.
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[23:54:51] <kami> I'm having a hard time wrestling with a radio button and ng-change.
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[23:55:01] <kami> the ng-change event is not firing: http://pastebin.com/f6UjP9qT
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[23:56:05] <ARandomFurry> kami; does http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13077320/angularjs-trigger-when-radio-button-is-selected not work for you?
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[23:57:07] <kami> ARandomFurry: didn't think of ng-click. Let me try.
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[23:57:53] <kami> ARandomFurry: no, doesn't work.
[23:58:13] <ARandomFurry> $watch works, you could also turn your value into a setter/getter (and let ngModel know that in its options).
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