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[00:07:18] <tapia> Hi! I'm trying to write a service method that returns an observable from the inside of another observable response
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[00:08:52] <tapia> for example, I make a http.get request, and from that observable response, I make another request, and must return that observable
[00:08:57] <tapia> how can I do that?
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[00:18:25] <clocKwize> I'm playing with angular2, trying to add an extra npm library, msgpack-lite. I've added it to my package.json and systemjs.config.js but when i import { encode} from 'msgpack-lite/index' it errors saying it can't find it any idea what i should do
[00:18:43] <m0ltar> Hey y'all. I think I broke my brain trying to figure this out already ... https://plnkr.co/edit/fxV2Ri2lROZHWuTsUI1h -- How can I get FOO1 and FOO2 into option label? The values may change and that is why they are stored in a separate variable... I was thinking to eval with something like lodash with _.get(obj, key) .. but can't get that to work also. are expressions inside ng-repeat not supported? any clues? PLEASE!
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[00:45:04] <trhwjwrw> Why would my angular 2 not recognize [routerLinkActiveOptions] ?
[00:45:15] <trhwjwrw> but it recognizes [routerLink]=
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[00:46:03] <Foxandxss> I never heard about that attribute
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[00:53:34] <ZachLanich> Anyone around know much about BehaviorSubjects, etc?
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[04:46:10] <lurkashflake> I've installed angularjs via npm but still get UNMET PEER DEPENDENCY @angular/core at 2 dot 0.0-rc.5
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[04:55:23] <zomg> lurkashflake: someone else who was having the same problem manually ran `npm install name-of-missing-dependency` and that fixed it
[04:55:41] <zomg> apparently npm v3 doesn't install peer deps by default or something like that
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[04:58:30] <nivag> lurkashflake, rc6 is out
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[04:58:58] <nivag> of angularjs 2
[04:59:14] <lurkashflake> okay thanks!
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[06:46:54] <hell_lord_> hi
[06:47:31] <hell_lord_> i'm having an issue with using rxjs bufferTime. for some reason, it emits the exact same array every 100 ms even though the observable has only called next() 5 times
[06:50:40] <hell_lord_> NEVERMIND I FIGURED IT OUT
[06:51:04] <hell_lord_> the subscribe call was actually nested inside the observable
[06:51:12] <hell_lord_> here's to 2 space tabs HOORAH
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[06:52:24] <hell_lord_> or not.
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[07:14:31] <wand> hi
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[07:14:35] <wand> can we create two forms on single page?
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[07:21:07] <heartburn> sure
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[07:22:26] <wand> but the second form am creating is not displaying
[07:25:57] <ZachLanich> Is there an RxJS specific IRC channel? There's like no one in #reactivex, ever lol
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[07:35:51] <heartburn> wand: try beying more specific bro. the way you're describing your issue isn't very informative.
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[07:39:21] <wand> heartburn hmm,i think its because of css ,if its not i will share the code here
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[07:40:11] <jiggliemon> Hi. New to Angular 2/Typescript. Is it best practice to keep the ts & js files together in the same dir?
[07:40:34] <jiggliemon> or do you have a seperate ts dir, and js dir - similar to how is common w/ scss/less?
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[07:41:18] <heartburn> grouping everything by feature is a very nice way to organize your codebase generally.
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[07:42:09] <jiggliemon> heartburn you mean /app/feature/module[.ts, .js, .js.map] ?
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[07:42:33] <heartburn> yes, as well as .html, .css, .spec, README.md
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[07:42:56] <kumaran> Hi Avarsh
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[07:43:08] <kumaran> This is kumaran from India
[07:43:46] <kumaran> are you there?
[07:44:06] <wand> he left from India
[07:44:11] <wand> xD
[07:44:49] <kumaran> Hi Wand
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[07:45:08] <kumaran> good morning
[07:45:11] <kumaran> how are you?
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[07:45:31] <wand> do you have any question? facebook is there for chit chat
[07:45:35] <kumaran> I am beginner of AngularJS
[07:46:00] <kumaran> yes. I am having question about angularjs projects
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[07:46:35] <kumaran> I am working as web developer in PHP with mysql technologies
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[07:47:05] <kumaran> could you share real time application based concepts and examples
[07:47:29] <kumaran> I will develop my end and improve my skills please help me
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[07:47:57] <wand> you can download them from google, and please learn from beginning!
[07:48:07] <wand> follow docs!
[07:48:32] <wand> making an application is not difficult if your concepts are clear
[07:49:06] <kumaran> okay. Please share any specific books and videos to learn angularjs
[07:49:17] <kumaran> its more helpful for me
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[08:33:26] <arlekin> good morning
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[09:01:59] <Elarcis> Hi!
[09:02:04] <arlekin> hi there
[09:02:12] <Elarcis> Who's there?
[09:02:18] <Elarcis> I don't know that guy
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[09:02:35] <arlekin> What guy ? Is there anyone else here ??
[09:02:49] <icebox> :P
[09:02:51] <arlekin> Don't hug me Im scared
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[09:04:29] <Elarcis> arlekin: yeah, you should be
[09:04:45] <arlekin> Elarcis: are you threatening me ?
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[09:05:00] <Elarcis> arlekin: no. the world is just scary
[09:05:06] <arlekin> Elarcis: true
[09:07:05] <ngWalrus> ugh
[09:07:12] <ngWalrus> I've been too productive at work >:(
[09:07:20] <ngWalrus> already closed like three tickets after just one hour
[09:07:27] <arlekin> ngWalrus: poor guy
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[09:09:25] <ngWalrus> also Ronda, Spain looks like a cool place to visit
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[09:17:59] <arnas> Elarcis, why is the world a scary place?
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[09:33:07] <digitalenthusias> hello world
[09:33:28] <arlekin> digitalenthusias: world is a scary place
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[09:33:47] <Elarcis> arlekin: that's MY line.
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[09:34:06] <oderfla> Hello
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[09:34:13] <Elarcis> , world!
[09:34:32] <arlekin> Elarcis: you were late to the punch
[09:34:51] <Pyrrhus666> re the discussion yesterday regarding email validation : https://hackernoon.com/the-100-correct-way-to-validate-email-addresses-7c4818f24643
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[09:35:04] <Pyrrhus666> fun read, and good morning people !
[09:35:11] <oderfla> is there a place where you can ask technical questions about angular? something like a forum. SOmething like stackoverflaw. I asked something there but couldnt get any help.
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[09:35:14] <arlekin> mornin'
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[09:35:27] <arlekin> oderfla: here, actually
[09:35:36] <arlekin> oderfla: SO sucks, dont worry
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[09:35:44] <oderfla> ok thanks
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[09:35:47] <oderfla> arlekin
[09:36:13] <sl33k_> Can someone tell me what code I need to include to open a simple modal? https://plnkr.co/edit/?p=preview
[09:36:24] <arlekin> oderfla: sooo, i assume you have some questions
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[09:36:59] <Pyrrhus666> sl33k_: empty plunk !
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[09:37:07] <arlekin> sl33k_: nice of you to provide a plnkr, shame its empty, you sure that was what you wanted ?
[09:37:17] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: how utilitarian
[09:37:19] <oderfla> I have this angular app. There are multiple controllers. Im trying to add a new one. I create: the controller, the view, I add the path into router. The html file is loaded. The js.controller too. But the "contructor" is never executed.
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[09:37:41] <arlekin> oderfla: first of all, state your version of angular
[09:37:48] <Pyrrhus666> arlekin: sorry, my wit-service is down until the third cup of coffee ;)
[09:37:54] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: thanks for validating my point :D
[09:37:56] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: pussy
[09:38:00] <arlekin> ;P
[09:38:15] <sl33k_> Pyrrhus666: https://github.com/angular-ui/bootstrap/tree/master/src/modal
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[09:38:32] <sl33k_> Scroll down to modal section here: https://angular-ui.github.io/bootstrap/
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[09:38:52] <Preuk> hello
[09:39:00] <Preuk> Pyrrhus666: thanks for the coffee-reminder
[09:39:00] <arlekin> Preuk: hi
[09:39:03] <Pyrrhus666> sl33k_: I know ui-bootstrap, I use it myself. the plunk in the docs should explain all, not ?
[09:39:09] <oderfla> arlekin: 1.5.8
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[09:39:16] <Pyrrhus666> morning Preuk :)
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[09:39:43] <arlekin> 2 words, fuck tmux
[09:39:56] <sl33k_> Pyrrhus666: there is ModalInstanceCtrl then there is component in javascript
[09:39:57] <heartburn> no fuck you
[09:40:00] <heartburn> tmux is <3
[09:40:13] <Preuk> arlekin: by the power of ^B I command thee!
[09:40:14] <arlekin> heartburn: woah, ive hurt some feelings, sorry
[09:40:24] <oderfla> arlekin angular version is 1.5.8
[09:40:34] <arlekin> heartburn: dont hate me, im using it after all
[09:40:36] <heartburn> it's k, i'm not being serious, just in case you think i am.
[09:40:47] <Preuk> my current tmux session has been running for 2 months
[09:40:54] <arlekin> oderfla: ok, what did you mean with 'constructor' ?
[09:41:03] <ngWalrus> What's wrong with tmux
[09:41:07] <heartburn> nothing.
[09:41:07] <arlekin> heartburn: well ppl tend to be pretty protective
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[09:41:24] <ngWalrus> other than having to configure the key combo to be ^A
[09:41:30] <arlekin> ngWalrus: nothing, it just when i somehow accidentaly used unknown shortcut to me...
[09:41:39] <arlekin> weird things happened
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[09:42:03] <heartburn> you can't hate on a terminal multiplexor that has a clock, afterall.
[09:42:09] <oderfla> arlekin: I create this new controller. It is referred as "myCtrl" in other places (like in stateProvider). Now, in my.controller.js I have a function named "myCtrl". It is never executed.
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[09:42:16] <arlekin> heartburn: i know right ?:D
[09:42:21] <heartburn> the thing just cannot be nad by definition.
[09:42:41] <heartburn> b*
[09:42:45] <oderfla> I see that other controllers are using the same way to get initiated. And they are initiated. The "constructor" is executed for them. But not for the one I created.
[09:42:46] <arlekin> oderfla: ok, we reached the point when i need to see your code
[09:42:58] <oderfla> sure. can i post it here?
[09:43:07] <arlekin> oderfla: in some plnkr or fiddle
[09:43:08] <heartburn> plnkr.co
[09:43:13] <Pyrrhus666> sl33k_: it´s just different ways of doing a modal. for regular use, just go with the first method I guess ?
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[09:43:24] <arlekin> oderfla: there is a link in channel subject to plnkr set up with angular etc already
[09:44:01] <arlekin> oderfla: also, just so you know, one never paste code into irc channel, one always paste it in some dpaste.de or make a plnkr and then paste a link
[09:44:27] <sl33k_> Pyrrhus666: I'm assuming only this much code: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23149161/
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[09:45:01] <oderfla> thanks arlekin. The app is huge. It is not very easy to put a working example into plnkr. But I guess it has to be a working code example?
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[09:45:45] <arlekin> oderfla: not really, best thing here would be to just copy and paste offending controller for instance here: dpaste.com
[09:45:48] <Pyrrhus666> sl33k_: that looks like it. just make sure you have $uibModal injected in the controller.
[09:45:49] <arlekin> *dpaste.de
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[09:46:11] <oderfla> oh thats great i will give it a try thanks
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[09:50:11] <oderfla> arlekin could you have a look a this? https://dpaste.de/jUNL
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[09:51:18] <arlekin> oderfla: quick question, what the fuck is define() ?
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[09:52:08] <arlekin> oderfla: cuz it seems like you are defining your controller function in the scope of the function passed to the define function
[09:52:39] <arlekin> oderfla: i dont see really how angular should know about it, unless define function somehow has something in common with angular
[09:53:18] <arlekin> oderfla: you have some pattern / lib there i havn't seen / used before so i'd need some support from you about that
[09:53:59] <icebox> arlekin: require.js loader
[09:54:06] <arlekin> icebox: just googled that
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[09:54:48] <arlekin> oderfla: ok, so angular has its own module system so you dont need to wrap it in require js like that
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[09:55:12] <arlekin> oderfla: it is possible i guess, but since i don't know require.js i can't really speak to how to do that
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[09:55:39] <icebox> arlekin: (it is used for loading on demand)
[09:56:12] <oderfla> arlekin: I think it is using a library called "require" and also "underscore"
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[09:56:32] <arlekin> oderfla: but from what you have shown us i guess the least you'd have to do is to put in your route the result of the define method, because as of now the controller method is in isolated scope of a function passed to the define
[09:56:52] <arlekin> icebox: is there a case to put angular parts inside require.js ??
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[09:57:33] <oderfla> mmm im not sure i undersand what you mean :)
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[09:57:47] <icebox> arlekin: (for me it is a terrible idea, but it is only my opinion... old and out fashion nowadays)
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[09:59:43] <oderfla> as the app is quite big, I have tried to emulate what is done with an other working contrller. To me I have added all the necessary things. Bot in creating files (html and js) and in putting reference to them in other files (like require/main etc)
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[10:00:52] <oderfla> I wonder how I can debug this. The strange things is that: 1 - i never see any reference to "ng-controller" and 2 - the other controllers are executed even if they are never called explicitly, like "myCtrl()"
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[10:01:29] <icebox> oderfla: you know, there is something wrong in loading process... you should narrow the issue removing parts... the controllers are loaded via routing
[10:02:41] <oderfla> icebox: yes. probably i must narrow all of this. the new controller is inside the routing but it doesnt help.
[10:02:58] <icebox> oderfla: you should double check the routes... are you sure the url matches with the route loading the offending controller?
[10:03:40] <Elarcis> welp, today I'm gonna buy myself a new screen
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[10:04:27] <icebox> oderfla: you need to separate the parts... loader, routing and the rest... and check each part separately
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[10:06:02] <arlekin> icebox: did you look at the oderfla's code ?
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[10:06:36] <arlekin> icebox: to me the routes are defined in some weird way (but i assume its just soe ui-router or something)
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[10:07:09] <arlekin> icebox: but also in the route the controller is passed by name, but it is defined in anon function passed to the require.js define function
[10:07:28] <oderfla> is there anything else I could paste and that could be helpful guys?
[10:07:52] <icebox> arlekin: visually it seems ok... but the evil is in the details (and in the context)
[10:08:00] <arlekin> icebox: and i think that from purely js point of view there is no way that the code in route file has defined function with that name
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[10:08:11] <arlekin> oderfla: maybe full main.route.js file ?
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[10:08:44] <arlekin> oderfla: or even better, to test my assumption, paste the myCtrl function (alone) in the route file
[10:09:16] <arlekin> oderfla: cause i assume the route changes correctly, and the appropriate html is displayed
[10:09:27] <oderfla> arlekin here is the route: https://dpaste.de/Fxtd
[10:09:40] <oderfla> (myCtrl is actually named alfCtrl)
[10:10:14] <arlekin> oderfla: and how does the route know where to find this alfCtrl ?
[10:10:20] <icebox> oderfla: named views... did you forget the name of the view in html?
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[10:11:06] <oderfla> and this is alfCtrl: https://dpaste.de/5NF5
[10:11:25] <arlekin> scratch that, how does main.module.js gets access to the myCtrl function
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[10:11:45] <icebox> arlekin: <div ui-view="alf"></div>
[10:11:56] <arlekin> icebox: explain
[10:12:10] <icebox> oderfla: did you write the code?
[10:12:29] <arlekin> oderfla: icebox: sorry if im mudding the waters, im just not using ui-router nor require.js
[10:12:32] <oderfla> icebox: yes, I just wrote a controller that emulated the others
[10:12:39] <icebox> arlekin: no problem :)
[10:13:01] <oderfla> i mean: the new one is created by me. all the aother app by someone else
[10:13:07] <icebox> oderfla: yes... but it seems you have no idea how it works routing or require... and I am sorry if I am rude
[10:13:22] <arlekin> icebox: i just don't see how the module gets access to the controller function definition - i would expect to be some requiring for the defined controller
[10:13:32] <oderfla> yes im quite a newbie
[10:13:39] <icebox> oderfla: ok...
[10:13:41] <keemyb> oderfla, somewhere you need angular.module('someModule, []).controller(require(myFile.js));
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[10:14:30] <arlekin> keemyb: he/she has a controller attached to module alright, im just wondering how does the .controller() gets access to controller function which is wrapped in define()
[10:14:54] <oderfla> keemyb: it is referenced somewhere else, in a file called main.js
[10:14:57] <arlekin> at least to my understanding that seems to be a culprit
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[10:16:11] <arlekin> oderfla: do you require what you defined in your controller file in your route file ?
[10:16:12] <keemyb> angular.module('someModule, []).controller('controllerName', require(myFile.js));. Sorry I made a typo. That doesn't make sense to me, and honestly is not an anuglar issue. If the controller is registered than angular would have no problem finding it
[10:16:34] <keemyb> Does not matter how the function gets there
[10:16:43] <icebox> oderfla: "home" contains multiple views... in home html page there are named views... and you need to add there the new view "alf"
[10:16:57] <arlekin> keemyb: but it has to get there somehow
[10:17:05] <arlekin> keemyb: https://dpaste.de/jUNL
[10:17:16] <arlekin> keemyb: look at main.module.js section
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[10:18:20] <oderfla> icebox: you mean i need to add a new html file called alf.html? the answer would be: i did. Ot you mean that in main.html i would reference to alf.html?
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[10:18:53] <arlekin> oderfla: could you paste whole module file ?
[10:19:02] <Elarcis> hi fox
[10:19:31] <oderfla> yes arlekin
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[10:20:22] <keemyb> Only thing I can think of is that mainModule is being overwritten somehow
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[10:20:32] <oderfla> arlekin: you mean the one where all the controller are called i guess? in that case: https://dpaste.de/dXNn
[10:20:36] <keemyb> with the array syntax
[10:20:48] <icebox> oderfla: no
[10:20:50] <arlekin> keemyb: but how doest the controller arrives to the module ?
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[10:21:11] <icebox> oderfla: see https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router/wiki/Multiple-Named-Views
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[10:22:47] <keemyb> Okay, so here https://dpaste.de/jUNL#L33, in the //main.module.js, replace mainModule with var mainModule = angular.module('msisMain');
[10:23:19] <icebox> oderfla: if you "copied" the approach of the working controllers, I suppose js part is correct... if the view is not loaded (and the controller is not called), it is because there is not he view in html
[10:23:59] <arlekin> ok im out, i'll leave the matter to the better informed not to mess the discussion
[10:24:34] <oderfla> keemyb: it already has that code?!? it looks like this now: var mainModule = angular.module('msisMain',[]);
[10:24:43] <oderfla> arlekin: thank you for your help
[10:24:46] <icebox> oderfla: we can stay here for hours... but if you don't narrow the issue, reducing the rolling parts, we cannot give you a concrete help... plase, take your time experimenting with the code
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[10:25:36] <arlekin> oderfla: the code you just posted creates new module
[10:25:53] <arlekin> oderfla: instead of getting existing one, remove the ,[] part
[10:26:55] <arlekin> oderfla: unless of course thats the point, but thats not what keemyb asked for so...
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[10:27:52] <oderfla> ok ok. thanks for your help. i think i need to experiment a little.
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[10:44:34] <Elarcis> urh, battle lost. I still have to implement that 'no item selected' selectable item
[10:44:50] <arlekin> Elarcis: you thought you could avoid that ?
[10:44:59] <Elarcis> arlekin: yesterday that's what we agreed on
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[10:45:20] <arlekin> Elarcis: there is no spoon
[10:45:22] <Elarcis> arlekin: and today the PM just came back to it, but now it makes a bit more sense
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[10:45:47] <Elarcis> arlekin: it won't be a 'no item selected', it will be a 'pointless item'
[10:45:48] <zomg> I'll tell you what's the best feature I was ever asked to implement
[10:45:59] <zomg> So you know how mobile apps have these menu bars with different buttons for different views
[10:46:02] <arlekin> zomg: you are alive!
[10:46:13] <zomg> I was working at Nokia on this social media app for S60
[10:46:24] <zomg> So of course we also had that sort of a button bar
[10:46:41] <zomg> For some insane reason the UI guys came to us and told us to put the buttons in a different order on each page
[10:46:44] <zomg> That's right
[10:46:49] <zomg> They would change order depending on which page you were on...
[10:47:04] <zomg> As a joke I implemented it so that it just randomized the button order on every page change
[10:47:04] <arlekin> zomg: thats some messed up UX right there
[10:47:07] <zomg> :D
[10:47:19] <zomg> Thankfully they came to their senses
[10:48:28] <arlekin> zomg: you could go meta on their asses, and put empty button bar arguing that if order doesn't matter there is a case in which none of the buttons are "first in order" therefore no visible buttons
[10:48:47] <Elarcis> zomg: holy hell
[10:48:52] <icebox> arlekin: lateral thinking :)
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[10:49:05] <Elarcis> 'well the page you're in should appear first, that's common sense! trust me, I'm a UX guy'
[10:49:16] <arlekin> icebox: sometimes its just what you need
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[10:52:29] <zomg> arlekin: that's way too philosophical lol
[10:52:42] <zomg> but everyone in the dev team had a good laugh at the randomized button order...
[10:52:45] <zomg> :D
[10:52:51] <zomg> unclear what the UI team thought
[10:52:52] <zomg> lol
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[10:53:03] <arlekin> zomg: there is no such thing, from your story it didn't immediately result that there was a hard requirement of actually showing the buttons
[10:53:45] <arlekin> zomg: i would change UI team that would come with such idea
[10:54:02] <arlekin> zomg: i mean in what world is that a good design ??
[10:54:04] <zomg> such was life at Nokia
[10:54:29] <zomg> you can kinda see why the company failed even without elop's guiding hand :p
[10:54:37] <Elarcis> zomg: it's always nive to have form fields with a toggle button to make them editable/read-only
[10:54:41] <arlekin> zomg: i do see it now :D
[10:55:11] <zomg> infact our social media app project was canceled at the end
[10:55:19] <arlekin> thank god
[10:55:20] <zomg> because Nokia's division in Germany was building the same thing
[10:55:31] <zomg> and they decided to use the german app instead, even though ours was technically better
[10:55:35] <zomg> internal politics ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[10:55:40] <arlekin> zomg: was it though ?
[10:55:44] <zomg> Yeah it was
[10:55:55] <zomg> The UI team wasn't that bad, they just had weird ideas sometimes
[10:55:56] <zomg> :D
[10:55:56] <arlekin> zomg: prolly germans had a better design
[10:56:21] <Elarcis> DEUTSCHE QUALITAT
[10:56:32] <arlekin> zomg: UI is like a joke, if you need to explain it, its probably not that good
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[10:56:40] <Elarcis> ^
[10:56:42] <Elarcis> we need to explain ALL of our UI
[10:56:50] <Elarcis> (in the current project)
[10:56:59] <zomg> yeah german quality like the part in my car's engine which broke due to water pressure from the heater..
[10:57:05] <Elarcis> i'd show it to you, but it's under a NDA
[10:57:09] <zomg> engine repair guy was like I have *never* seen this piece break
[10:57:10] <zomg> :D
[10:57:55] <arlekin> Elarcis: now you have me curious
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[10:58:21] <zomg> we have some UI which needs to be explained as well
[10:58:23] <Elarcis> arlekin: app for a private lab
[10:58:40] <zomg> it's mostly because it's a complex application and in order to do complex things you need a complex UI
[10:58:41] <arlekin> Elarcis: and what your users say about it ?
[10:58:58] <zomg> I mean, some parts of it are not super intuitive, but once the user knows how to use it, then it's not complex :)
[10:59:00] <Elarcis> arlekin: they're lost, that's why we need to explain it XDD
[10:59:19] <arlekin> zomg: calculating things on CPU is complex, and we have really simple UIs for it...
[10:59:32] <Elarcis> arlekin: they're so desperate for clarity, if I didn't have my word on it they'd smother the users with modals, tutorials tours and popovers
[10:59:34] <arlekin> Elarcis: so why don't you make it better ?
[10:59:42] <zomg> arlekin: sure, but it probably might not be intuitive to someone who hasn't used it before
[10:59:58] <Elarcis> arlekin: we're working on it, but I can only give suggestions, it's the customer who decides
[11:00:10] <arlekin> zomg: thats the whole reason ppl from UI/UX are getting paid, ain't it ?
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[11:00:16] <Elarcis> arlekin: and the customer is ALL about 'yeah, pop-up a modal to ask the user what they want'
[11:00:28] <zomg> arlekin: sure, but some things just aren't intuitively understandable at a glance
[11:00:38] <Elarcis> arlekin: (even for a small, unsignificant automatic calculation that's supposed to be autonomous and easy)
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[11:00:59] <zomg> arlekin: there was a good quote about that sort of UIs somewhere... it doesn't need to be easy to use, it needs to be easy to learn :)
[11:01:12] <zomg> it probably wasn't exactly like that
[11:01:14] <arlekin> Elarcis: im currently working on third iteration of my program for similar audience, and after much feedback i feel like i just know have all the knowledge and awareness to do it right
[11:01:23] <Elarcis> computation failed? ask the user! importing files? ask the user! syncing files? ask the user!
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[11:01:54] <zomg> our app is basically a WYSIWYG ad builder
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[11:02:09] <zomg> much of it works in a drag and drop fashion, but some things are more complex than others
[11:02:11] <arlekin> zomg: i kinda agree, but we have all those neat concepts like discoverability etc
[11:02:31] <zomg> the biggest not-very-intuitive aspect of it has been the positioning system
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[11:02:46] <arlekin> zomg: i mean for sure there are some things you cant jump over, but you should acknowledge those things and do everything to help users with them
[11:02:47] <zomg> because it uses CSS positioning, and you can "anchor" things to top/right/bottom/left
[11:03:12] <arlekin> also whatever you do, ui shouldn't be surprising
[11:03:21] <zomg> for someone who understands CSS, placing an element with position absolute and right: 0 probably is easy to understand
[11:03:30] <zomg> ie. if you make the container smaller, the element will stick to the right edge
[11:03:41] <zomg> but this can be hard to communicate purely from the UI
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[11:05:02] <jhadvig> hey, is it possible to use the same controller for a standalone page and also for a modal ?
[11:05:20] <arlekin> jhadvig: sure
[11:05:27] <ngWalrus> ui-should be very surprising
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[11:05:36] <arlekin> ngWalrus: you kiddin right ?
[11:05:38] <ngWalrus> I feel that's the best way to keep users on their toes
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[11:05:42] <arlekin> ngWalrus: lol
[11:05:56] <ngWalrus> good ways to do that is randomly change the placement of buttons and input fields
[11:06:13] <arlekin> ngWalrus: zomg: so that was the idea of an UI team
[11:06:21] <ngWalrus> constantly break the theming of the website
[11:06:43] <Pyrrhus666> ngWalrus: as an analogue to that, lets randomize the behavior of cli tools as well, to keep devs on their toes ;)
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[11:06:48] <ngWalrus> and buttons that look the same should never do similar things
[11:06:55] <jhadvig> arlekin, let s say that I use the controller for creating a resource. and I want to have use it on the stanadlone page and on the modal as well... but I need that the modal will be closed after creating and the standalone page will be redirected
[11:07:00] <jhadvig> but not sure how to do it
[11:07:14] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: lets randomize the keyboard input to make things funnier
[11:07:34] <Pyrrhus666> randomize all the bits !
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[11:08:06] <arlekin> jhadvig: well in that case dont pass controller, pass only the thing you want to have both in page and the modal
[11:08:21] <arlekin> jhadvig: the good way to do that would be to use some service
[11:08:54] <ngWalrus> Pyrrhus666 all functions should randomly choose between camelBackCase CamelCase under_scores and dash-seperation, similar functions should take arguments in different orders splice(array, index, count) slice(index, count, array) etc.
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[11:08:59] <ngWalrus> I could go all day
[11:09:07] <ngWalrus> I'm a design master
[11:09:23] <arlekin> ngWalrus: are you drunk ? or just bored :P
[11:09:25] <jhadvig> arlekin, hey so I thought.. just wasnt sure if there is some magic that could solve it
[11:09:25] <Pyrrhus666> ngWalrus: you´re evil. I like that.
[11:09:30] <jhadvig> arlekin, thanks :)
[11:09:45] <ngWalrus> arlekin very bored
[11:09:53] <ngWalrus> can't be drunk at work
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[11:10:21] <arlekin> ngWalrus: well if you are bored at work then go out and get drunk
[11:10:27] <ngWalrus> oh! I forgot
[11:10:36] <arlekin> ngWalrus: half of the times it works everytime
[11:10:37] <ngWalrus> Remember to always mix spaces and tabes
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[11:10:46] <ngWalrus> tabs*
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[11:10:54] <arlekin> ngWalrus: and change indentations size
[11:11:02] <ngWalrus> of course
[11:11:10] <arlekin> ngWalrus: and apply hotfixes only on minified code
[11:11:14] <Pyrrhus666> nice, I don´t do python, so I dont really care :)
[11:11:19] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: why mix spaces and tabs when you can remove all indentation
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[11:11:37] <arlekin> Elarcis: that would be too easy, no indentation is better than bad one
[11:11:46] <Elarcis> arlekin: I beg to differ
[11:11:52] <arnas> what's the difference between directive and component in ng1?
[11:12:04] <Elarcis> arnas: a component is a directive, but the opposite is false
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[11:12:22] <arlekin> arnas: actually the component is kinda specialized wrapper over directive
[11:12:25] <arnas> :D so it's like simpler version of a directive (not so powerful)?
[11:12:34] <Elarcis> arnas: components can't do DOM manipulations, but are simpler to create
[11:12:46] <Elarcis> arnas: you got it
[11:12:56] <arlekin> arnas: kinda, it removes some boilerplate and set some defaults for making specific type of directives (components)
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[11:13:17] <Elarcis> arnas: apparently the convention is that directives should only do DOM manipulations and not have a template anymore, that thing should be dedicated to components
[11:13:37] <arlekin> Elarcis: well components sucks since they dont have replace: true
[11:13:40] <Elarcis> (correct me if I'm wrong)
[11:13:40] <arnas> Elarcis, you do DOM manipulation in the directives inside the "link" parameter?
[11:13:46] <Elarcis> arlekin: replace: true is cancer
[11:13:53] <Elarcis> arnas: yes
[11:14:01] <arnas> I see, thanks
[11:14:02] <arlekin> arnas: on the other hand they have some real convenient methods
[11:14:19] <arnas> arlekin, but don't they have everything that directive has?
[11:14:20] <arlekin> Elarcis: oh, why so ? i remember someone told me once there was performance issue
[11:14:51] <Elarcis> arlekin: it mixes DOM elements weirdly, and is no longer supported
[11:15:00] <arlekin> arnas: no, the other way around, directive can do all the component can do, but not the other ways around
[11:15:10] <arnas> arlekin, that's what I meant :D
[11:15:11] <Elarcis> arlekin: which means that it could break at any angular update and you'd have to cry alone
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[11:15:15] <arlekin> Elarcis: oh, could you elaborate, or provide some link ?
[11:15:24] <arlekin> Elarcis: i always cry alonr
[11:15:26] <arlekin> *alone
[11:15:33] <Elarcis> arlekin: http://stackoverflow.com/a/24195251
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[11:15:40] <arlekin> my crying tends to be a lonely activity
[11:15:42] <arnas> so I should use component if I am not planning on using DOM manipulation? And if I am, then I should use directive?
[11:15:49] <arlekin> arnas: basically
[11:16:22] <arnas> k, got it
[11:16:30] <arnas> btw is it a bad thing that I am learning ng1? :/
[11:16:30] <Elarcis> arnas: you should be using components in that case, yes
[11:16:37] <arnas> and not ng2
[11:16:53] <Elarcis> arnas: if you want to do DOm manipulations, see if you can isolate that DOM logic in a dedicated directive, and use that directive in your component
[11:17:08] <Elarcis> arnas: NG1 is a good start
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[11:17:23] <Elarcis> arnas: though it is crucial that you follow good practices if you want a smooth transition to NG2
[11:17:25] <arnas> Elarcis, but it won't be used pretty soon, am I wrong? ng2 is coming up soon
[11:17:37] <Elarcis> arnas: NG2 is not a replacement for NG1
[11:17:45] <arlekin> ^
[11:17:50] <arnas> I know, it's totally different, but from what I've heard it's a lot better than ng1
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[11:17:57] <Elarcis> arnas: It's like saying that The Sims 2 is a replacement for The Sims :D
[11:18:01] <arlekin> arnas: also there is trmendous momentum in angular 1
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[11:18:24] <arlekin> its not like all those companies wih all those products will suddenly rewrite all the things
[11:18:38] <Elarcis> arnas: well yes it does thing better, otherwise I don't see why they'd make it XD
[11:18:47] <arnas> arlekin, well, yea, that's the case for me. The project that I'll be working on is already using ng1, so they told me to learn in
[11:18:54] <zomg> zero plans on moving to ng2 here tbh :P
[11:18:58] <zomg> waaaaaay too much work
[11:18:58] <arlekin> also i listened to podcast in which someone from angular team said, that despite differences those knowing ng1 should feel at home in ng2
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[11:19:16] <zomg> plus I see zero benefit from moving to ng2
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[11:19:27] <arlekin> what zomg said
[11:19:33] <Elarcis> zomg: I regret that we implemented NG2's code in our app, we're not using it yet
[11:19:36] <arnas> zomg, performance?
[11:19:36] <Elarcis> zomg: silliest thing
[11:19:52] <bd-> performance is worse on ng2 for me so far
[11:19:55] <arlekin> till someone figures out how to do really smooth transition i think there won't be that much migration
[11:20:02] <arnas> I see
[11:20:12] <arnas> so it's a good thing to learn ng1
[11:20:13] <arnas> great
[11:20:14] <zomg> arnas: performance hasn't been an issue for us at all even though we have a fairly complex app
[11:20:26] <zomg> oh actually it was at one point but we solved it quite easily
[11:20:34] <icebox> arlekin: the point is not migrating angular code, but, for instance, widget one
[11:20:35] <arlekin> Elarcis: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/commit/eec6394a342fb92fba5270eee11c83f1d895e9fb
[11:20:37] <zomg> we had some problems where we just had too many digests going on when you did certain things
[11:20:45] <zomg> so it would run a digest loop like I dunno 20 times :P
[11:20:50] <arlekin> icebox: yup, but still
[11:20:59] <Elarcis> bd-: you mean because you're making 1,000,000 loops in functions from the template? :D
[11:21:12] <bd-> no
[11:21:23] <arlekin> Elarcis: comments about deprecating replace
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[11:21:37] <bd-> in my actual app it was just the datepipe, i said that
[11:21:43] <arlekin> Elarcis: and also, long story short, makes responsive design PITA
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[11:21:58] <bd-> but that wasn't even what i was talking about, it's when ng2 decides to zone change detection constantly
[11:22:11] <bd-> so tab just sits using 25% cpu doing fuck all
[11:22:30] <bd-> pretty difficult to find the cause of it other than commenting random shit and hope it stops
[11:22:38] <zomg> what do you think of the [blah]=stuff syntax in ng2?
[11:22:50] <zomg> I mean there's like what, five different ways of saying this is a databinding that does something
[11:22:53] <Elarcis> zomg: I like it
[11:22:56] <zomg> that always looked weird to me =)
[11:22:59] <Elarcis> zomg: makes it clear what you have to put in it
[11:23:01] <bd-> i thought ng1 method was fine
[11:23:06] <bd-> dunno why they had to overcomplicate it
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[11:23:26] <Elarcis> bd-: ng1 method was that all attributes had the same syntax, regardless of what they expected
[11:23:26] <Foxandxss> zomg: way better
[11:23:27] <zomg> yeah I guess the problem was it was unclear what was accepted
[11:23:32] <bd-> yea and that was fine
[11:23:37] <zomg> tbh it seems like it should just be an expression and that's it?
[11:23:38] <Foxandxss> that wasn't fine
[11:23:49] <Elarcis> bd-: not it's really easy to tell that (end) expects a function call
[11:23:59] <zomg> Foxandxss: btw I've noticed a lot of peeps asking about unmet peer dependencies errors with ng2, not sure if this is a documentation issue :)
[11:24:08] <Foxandxss> zomg: here?
[11:24:11] <zomg> yeah
[11:24:11] <Elarcis> bd-: and that [(fruit)] will do two ways binding
[11:24:18] <Foxandxss> zomg: any example?
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[11:24:31] <zomg> > I've installed angularjs via npm but still get UNMET PEER DEPENDENCY @angular/core at 2 dot 0.0-rc.5
[11:24:45] <Foxandxss> oh, that one sounds like an old NPM version
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[11:24:49] <zomg> someone was asking this before and he said something about npm v3 not installing peer deps by default
[11:24:57] <zomg> and he ran npm install for it manually which fixed it
[11:25:03] <Foxandxss> ping me if you see me here and I don't read
[11:25:13] <Foxandxss> about [syntax]
[11:25:21] <Foxandxss> when you had to maintain a library used by thousand of companies
[11:25:27] <Foxandxss> you will start to love [syntax]
[11:25:51] <zomg> heh
[11:25:53] <Foxandxss> lot of issues everyday of "this doesn't work, pls fix" and you see people trying to use {{ }} where they shouldn't
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[11:26:02] <Foxandxss> people trying to use an string directly when they should use {{ }}
[11:26:06] <Elarcis> ^
[11:26:08] <Foxandxss> people doing both at the same time ¿?
[11:26:09] <zomg> yeah that was the problem
[11:26:09] <bd-> isn't that just they don't know what {{ }} does?
[11:26:15] <Foxandxss> no
[11:26:17] <Foxandxss> absolutely not
[11:26:20] <bd-> how's that different to them misunderstanding what the new syntax does
[11:26:24] <Foxandxss> no
[11:26:26] <zomg> it seems like they'd probably confuse the different [](){} syntaxes too tbh
[11:26:26] <zomg> :D
[11:26:36] <zomg> well, I dunno
[11:26:38] <Elarcis> bd-: no, sometimes you have to use "{{ }}" with '@' bindings
[11:26:42] <Foxandxss> there is NO WAY of knowing if an attribute receives an string (a property in the scope) or an interpolation
[11:26:42] <zomg> the whole expression thing wasn't explained very well
[11:26:53] <bd-> well the docs usually say
[11:26:57] <zomg> yeah, so why don't they just all accept an expression?
[11:26:59] <Elarcis> ^foxandxsss
[11:27:08] <arnas> Um, let's say I create a component called helloWorld. What's the "official" way to use that component in HTML? <hello-world></hello-world> or <h1 hello-world></h1> ?
[11:27:08] <Foxandxss> bd-: sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't
[11:27:16] <Elarcis> bd-: well the docs also say what {{ }} does
[11:27:18] <Elarcis> :D
[11:27:37] <Foxandxss> if there is no doc, you need to look into the source YES OR YES to know what input it accepts
[11:27:43] <Foxandxss> (arnas I will help you in a sec)
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[11:27:54] <bd-> or you just try it and if it doesn't work use the other one
[11:28:04] <bd-> easy
[11:28:05] <Foxandxss> and that is lovely
[11:28:12] <Foxandxss> with [syntax] you don't need to "just try"
[11:28:15] <Foxandxss> there is just one way
[11:28:19] <Foxandxss> and only one
[11:28:23] <Foxandxss> so you will never fail
[11:28:27] <Foxandxss> you will never have to look at the docs
[11:28:33] <bd-> no people will try it, get and error then change it
[11:28:37] <Foxandxss> and you don't get angry users that doesn't know how to use it
[11:28:45] <Pyrrhus666> you know what I love ? the name ´banana-in-a-box´ for ´[(´ :)
[11:28:51] <Foxandxss> I tell you that that isn't true bd-
[11:28:53] <Foxandxss> I am sorry
[11:29:07] <flemeur> Hi. Anybody here using RC6 experienced problems with FormControl where the control name contains a dot? I'm trying to figure out how to work around the fact that the dot is being used as a delimiter for looking up controls using .get()
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[11:29:10] <Foxandxss> the reality is hundred of people here and in the issue tracker doing stuff like
[11:29:16] <Foxandxss> ng-click="{{foo()}}"
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[11:29:31] <Foxandxss> because they tried with "foo()" for some reason that didn't work so they try the other way
[11:29:34] <Foxandxss> is like a pendrive
[11:29:50] <Foxandxss> you try, no, it doesn't, you try the other way, no, it doesn't so you try again
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[11:30:04] <Foxandxss> they try "foo()" for some reason it fails (wrong scope, they had foa instead of foo...
[11:30:12] <Foxandxss> so they try "{{foo()}}" and fails again
[11:30:14] <Foxandxss> so they ask
[11:30:27] <Foxandxss> https://angular-ui.github.io/bootstrap
[11:30:34] <Foxandxss> here I had to put badges in all the docs
[11:30:40] <Foxandxss> to say if that accepts something from the scope or a string
[11:30:46] <Foxandxss> that is bad
[11:30:51] <zomg> Yeah so is there some reason everything couldn't just accept an expression?
[11:31:11] <zomg> (say like react does it)
[11:31:13] <bd-> and what exactly prevents people fucking up the syntax in ng2 again?
[11:31:29] <zomg> bd-: I dunno, to me it seems like they'll just try all the new syntaxes until one sticks :D
[11:31:39] <Foxandxss> that is pretty clear of what an attribute does
[11:31:47] <zomg> but I mean, I don't really know, the only reason it looks so weird to me is probably because I have absolutely no idea why it is there or what it does =)
[11:32:15] <bd-> yea i don't think most people will bother learning the differences
[11:32:24] <Foxandxss> arnas: is pretty much about using an element when you want your directive to "Create something", say a calendar, a grid... and an attribute when it modifies the behavior of the element
[11:32:43] <Foxandxss> so far people have been doing ok with the syntax
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[11:32:52] <Elarcis> Foxandxss, bd-: you're both discussing about two different things. Foxandxss is talking about intuitivity, and bd- is discussing about stupid coders
[11:32:58] <Foxandxss> and I don't get people misusing them, which is nice
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[11:33:07] <Foxandxss> stupid coders will always exist
[11:33:13] <arnas> Foxandxss, but I was wondering what's the proper way to use component/directive, is it <hello-world></hello-world> or <h1 hello-world></h1>
[11:33:18] <Foxandxss> but at least this time we are not giving them "fuel" to do it wrong
[11:33:21] <Elarcis> Foxandxss, bd-: and I feel that bd- is always ranting about NG2 not fixing stupid developers
[11:33:36] <Foxandxss> arnas: first one is an element directive, second one is an attribute directive, now go back to my sentence
[11:33:44] <Elarcis> arnas: semantics
[11:33:52] <Foxandxss> Elarcis: he was ranting about ng2 since day 1
[11:34:05] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: day 1? really? :D
[11:34:09] <bd-> and i'm a big proponent of ng1, once ng2 is better than ng1 i will stop complaining
[11:34:09] <Foxandxss> yes
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[11:34:49] <Elarcis> bd-: you forgot to mention that 'better' is totally subjective
[11:35:01] <bd-> yep, once i find it better, i will stop complaining
[11:35:02] <Elarcis> bd-: and I feel like you'll always want to dislike something about it :D
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[11:35:24] <arnas> Foxandxss, oh, so if there's no DOM manipulation, we should use <hello-world></hello-world>, but if there's DOM manipulation, then we should add the attribute directive?
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[11:35:45] <Elarcis> bd-: like the other day where you purposely went to break it and ranted about it breaking while it didn't break angular 1.x :D
[11:35:58] <bd-> what did i break?
[11:36:00] <bd-> i don't recall
[11:36:01] <Elarcis> arnas: quite
[11:36:08] <Elarcis> bd-: the 1,000,000 loop
[11:36:12] <arnas> ok, thx
[11:36:33] <bd-> yes, a loop to simulate a slow running function for a plunkr
[11:36:43] <Elarcis> arnas: also, dunno if Foxandxss is with me on that, but try to have the directive only do DOM edits
[11:36:44] <bd-> how is that breaking it
[11:36:59] <lmatteis_> guys
[11:37:02] <lmatteis_> whenever i get Uncaught Error: [$injector:modulerr] http://errors.angularjs.org/1.3.13/$injector/modulerr?p0=
[11:37:06] <lmatteis_> how do i debug it :(
[11:37:08] <Foxandxss> Elarcis: you mean that all directives should do DOM edits?
[11:37:24] <Foxandxss> lmatteis_: not using angular.min for development for starters
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[11:37:39] <arnas> Foxandxss, directives for DOM manipulation and components for cases where there's no DOM manipulation
[11:38:01] <Foxandxss> I have no idea about components, I left angular 1 before that happened
[11:38:22] <zomg> arnas: that seems like a reasonable approach. Use components where you have... a component
[11:38:25] <zomg> :)
[11:38:41] <arnas> Foxandxss, so are you using ng2 now?
[11:38:41] <icebox> arnas: https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/component there is a comparison between component and directive definition
[11:38:50] <Foxandxss> arnas: I work for the ng2 team, so yes
[11:39:02] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: in angular 2, directives can't have templates, right?
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[11:39:09] <Foxandxss> right
[11:39:14] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: so I guess it's better to not make them have templates in angularjs 1.x as well
[11:39:19] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: to ease the upgrade
[11:39:22] <arnas> Foxandxss, "work for ng2 team" as in you're the developer of ng2 or as in "I work on a project that's using ng2"?
[11:39:25] <Foxandxss> sounds reasonable
[11:39:36] <Foxandxss> arnas: I am part of the angular 2 team
[11:39:44] <Foxandxss> that makes angular 2 possible
[11:39:46] <lmatteis_> @Foxandxss ok
[11:39:49] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: so if a directive doesn't have a template, it'll only add behaviorr and/or do DOM edits
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[11:40:03] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: components are layout, directives are behavior
[11:40:05] <Foxandxss> sounds reasonable as well
[11:40:13] <Elarcis> o/
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[11:40:47] <lmatteis_> Foxandxss: ok im getting this error: Uncaught (in promise) undefined
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[11:42:49] <angularjs875> hello
[11:42:54] <Elarcis> angularjs875: hello!
[11:42:59] <arnas> Foxandxss, nice :)
[11:43:10] <angularjs875> how are you?
[11:43:11] <Elarcis> angularjs875: please state the nature of your emergency
[11:43:28] <angularjs875> i have got some question with Factories
[11:43:33] <Elarcis> angularjs875: getting a new 23" screen tonight, so fine thx
[11:43:40] <angularjs875> nice :
[11:43:41] <angularjs875> :D
[11:43:41] <Elarcis> angularjs875: ask 'em :D
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[11:44:26] <MadFish> hey guys. I have a question related to angular 1.5.8. I came here from PhoneCat tutorial and in that tutorial all angular files (javascript files) are `connected` in entry point index.html. The question is are those files loaded all at once (when user loads any page at the first time) or angular loading only those files which are needed to render the page and other files is lazyloaded or something?
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[11:45:13] <angularjs875> https://plnkr.co/edit/rpVwzwYINehQpGm4Yywt?p=preview
[11:45:27] <angularjs875> my problem is at line 212
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[11:45:48] <Pyrrhus666> MadFish: if they´re in the index, they are loaded.
[11:46:05] <angularjs875> i want to create a dico object
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[11:46:51] <Elarcis> angularjs875: dico is not a type, it's avariable name
[11:46:55] <Suriya> hi can any one from here help me to fix this. posted my problem in this link http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39385571/what-is-wrong-with-this-angularjs-code-in-browser-code-editor-nodejs
[11:46:57] <Elarcis> angularjs875: so you can't do new dico()
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[11:47:28] <Elarcis> angularjs875: you can only do new with functions and classes
[11:47:30] <angularjs875> Elarcis: i can do it in my controllers actualy i want to use this var in multiple controllers so I decided to put it in a factory
[11:47:31] <Foxandxss> Elarcis: 23"? Or we back in the early 00s?
[11:47:40] <Foxandxss> lmatteis_: that is not helpful either
[11:47:44] <Elarcis> angularjs875: you're misunderstanding what 'new' does
[11:48:02] <angularjs875> maybe x:
[11:48:16] <Suriya> am new to angularjs kindly someone ping me to fix my problem please..!!!
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[11:48:20] <Elarcis> angularjs875: what's the value of dico you're getting in your function?
[11:48:21] <MadFish> Pyrrhus666: so if I'm having huge huge project with lots of pages, js files etc, the all will be loaded and it will take significant time for the first load?
[11:48:23] <Suriya> am new to angularjs kindly someone ping me to fix my problem please..!!!
[11:48:24] <Suriya> am new to angularjs kindly someone ping me to fix my problem please..!!!
[11:48:25] <Suriya> am new to angularjs kindly someone ping me to fix my problem please..!!!
[11:48:26] <Elarcis> angularjs875: is it an array?
[11:48:44] <Elarcis> Suriya: NO need to copy paste your messages!
[11:48:44] <Elarcis> Suriya: NO need to copy paste your messages!
[11:48:45] <Elarcis> Suriya: NO need to copy paste your messages!
[11:49:03] <Suriya> yeah ..okay but none consider me
[11:49:05] <Elarcis> angularjs875: is it an object?
[11:49:13] <angularjs875> Elarcis: you mean my "dico"?
[11:49:23] <Elarcis> Suriya: you're not the only one here asking for help
[11:49:29] <arlekin> Suriya: that was like 9 seconds...
[11:49:33] <Elarcis> angularjs875: yes, is it a custom object?
[11:49:39] <Elarcis> arlekin: three minutes actually
[11:49:40] <Pyrrhus666> MadFish: usually, the pages (html templates) are not linked from the index. but essentially yes, everything that is linked from index.html is loaded at boottime. it´s just the way the browser works.
[11:49:50] <arlekin> Elarcis: horrible...
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[11:50:02] <angularjs875> Elarcis: dico is an object having 2 functions
[11:50:11] <Suriya> confussed... who talk with whom ?
[11:50:21] <angularjs875> and i'm adding item in this object
[11:51:00] <Elarcis> angularjs875: yep: you can't do new on your object, you need to do new on the FUNCTION that creates a dico
[11:51:07] <zomg> I wonder what it is with indians and the complete lack of patience and the expectation that their problem should be attended to for free right away
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[11:51:14] <Elarcis> angularjs875: do you know a bit of OOP?
[11:51:46] <arlekin> zomg: let's not call the nations, okay ?
[11:52:02] <angularjs875> Elarcis : yeah but i'm new to JS and AngularJS btw
[11:52:26] <zomg> arlekin: sure, it's just that indians very often behave in that fashion, so it's hard to not notice it
[11:52:27] <arlekin> zomg: i mean as much as i appreciate and share your frustration, lets not bash on ppl
[11:52:40] <zomg> hell, I've even been told the same by other indians :D
[11:52:44] <arlekin> zomg: lol
[11:52:46] <arnas> in the PhoneCat tutorial's "Directory and File Organization" section they say we need to organize the files by feature. But they don't create separate folders for controllers, modules, views, services etc. Is this file organization common in real world apps?
[11:52:48] <Pyrrhus666> Suriya: just ask your question, and someone might respond ;)
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[11:53:09] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666 - the good cop of this channel
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[11:53:29] <Pyrrhus666> arlekin: I only follow icebox´s excellent example ;)
[11:53:34] <Suriya> zomag: gentleman pls. dont talk about indian or something else.. i just here to seek help only
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[11:53:36] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: kissass
[11:53:41] <MadFish> Pyrrhus666: oh.. one more question to make it clear. I have modular structure (1 folder = 1 feature = js files, html file, css file for that feature). But all my js files are connected in index.html. That means that they are all loaded on bootstrap (which equals to `more logic = more time to bootstrap`)? Right?
[11:54:03] <Suriya> @pyrrhus666 : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39385571/what-is-wrong-with-this-angularjs-code-in-browser-code-editor-nodejs this is my problem
[11:54:04] <Pyrrhus666> arlekin: aw, grrrl, you know me so well ;)
[11:54:06] <Preuk> Suriya: please explain your problem here too
[11:54:20] <Elarcis> angularjs875: ok, this is the syntax you need https://plnkr.co/edit/ykWEGREQO7omFRTNnbIa?p=preview
[11:54:20] <arlekin> Suriya: ok, first tidbit of help: never ask to ask, be bold and ask directly about a problem
[11:54:25] <angularjs875> Elarcis: my real question is why in my controller i can do a monthsDict = new myfactories.dico() and i cant do the same thing in my factory
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[11:54:31] <Elarcis> angularjs875: however I'd recommend you to follow tutorials on OOP in JS
[11:55:03] <Pyrrhus666> MadFish: yes, correct. unless you use some lazy loading addon (they exist), everything needed to boot the app is loaded.
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[11:55:38] <Suriya> arlekin: yeah sure man.. this is wat lil encouragement.. thanks for that... but tell me before that. how to talk to the person by private
[11:55:39] <MadFish> Pyrrhus666: do you mean something like webpack?
[11:55:39] <angularjs875> i need to put my object outside of the factory?
[11:55:53] <Suriya> because am confused about who talk with whom
[11:56:02] <Preuk> Suriya: welcome to IRC :)
[11:56:13] <Elarcis> angularjs875: basically your issue is that dico was a property of your factory, but it wasn't accessible directly from it
[11:56:17] <arlekin> Suriya: well we usually just start the message with the nick of the one we address
[11:56:25] <Pyrrhus666> MadFish: no, that ´just´ packs everything together. but there´s stuff like https://oclazyload.readme.io/ (no experience)
[11:56:32] <arlekin> Suriya: in most irc clients it triggers some notification or highlight
[11:56:43] <angularjs875> Can't i put it out from the return? and still inside my factory?
[11:56:49] <Elarcis> angularjs875: so what I did is name your function 'Dico' so that it's inside of your factory, but exposed via the 'dico' property, and still accessible from other functions
[11:56:51] <arlekin> Suriya: therefore its easier to notice if someone talks directly to you
[11:56:56] <Elarcis> angularjs875: it's outside of your return
[11:57:02] <arlekin> Suriya: like im doing right now with you
[11:57:22] <Suriya> like this @arlekin hi
[11:57:23] <Elarcis> angularjs875: the return ends just above function Dico
[11:57:32] <arlekin> Suriya: other times there is a common discussion where everyone talks with everyone so we just read the chat
[11:57:38] <angularjs875> Elarcis: nevermind i thought it was out of factory x)
[11:57:49] <arlekin> Suriya: yup, like that, and sometimes its a big mess, like right now
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[11:58:01] <angularjs875> Elarcis : thanks for help i'll try to do it like that
[11:58:23] <MadFish> Pyrrhus666: awesome. thanks for help. gonna investigate that part. have a nice day!
[11:58:32] <arlekin> Suriya: anyway, regarding your quesiton, piece of advice, format your code better (8-space tabs, seriously ?) so it would be easier to read, especially on SO
[11:58:56] <Pyrrhus666> MadFish: you´re welcome :)
[11:59:07] <Suriya> yeah sure wait a sec
[11:59:14] <arlekin> Suriya: and to the problem: how to compile input from python ? i don't know, and since it doesn't apply to angularjs i wouldn't count on finding helpe here
[11:59:30] <Elarcis> arlekin: perhaps 8-spaces tab is the convention of their tea
[11:59:32] <Elarcis> *team
[11:59:51] <Suriya> ho thats sad... but its okay gentleman.. thanks for your quick response..
[11:59:57] <arlekin> Elarcis: good point, may well be, still terribly hard to read in narrow space on SO
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[12:00:45] <arlekin> Suriya: and your question title doesn't really relates to the contents, therefore you ruin your chances of getting answers
[12:00:53] <arlekin> Suriya: and even risk downvotes
[12:01:26] <Suriya> actually am new to technical area really dont know how to ask questions
[12:01:30] <Suriya> :(
[12:01:56] <arlekin> Suriya: thats common provlem, fortunately its common enough you should easily find some resources
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[12:02:46] <Suriya> i tried to learn by myself with self interest. actually trying to help some middle level school
[12:02:52] <angularjs875> Elarcis : a last question if i create a var outside the return can i return it ?
[12:03:02] <arlekin> Suriya: the best practices for asking questions include (but not limit to): just simply asking, being respectful, doing (and showing that you've done) some resarch and trying on your own,
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[12:03:15] <Suriya> just want everyone to learn everything..
[12:03:25] <Bish> can i have parameterized providers/injections?
[12:03:39] <arlekin> Suriya: start with one person, one thing, then aim higher
[12:03:40] <Elarcis> angularjs875: yes but you have to create it before the return
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[12:03:57] <arlekin> Bish: what do you mean exactly ?
[12:03:58] <Suriya> Arlekin : will take your advice strongly in my mind :)
[12:03:59] <Elarcis> angularjs875: what I usually do is local vars before the return, and functions after, to not clutter the code
[12:04:23] <Bish> arlekin: a.e. i want to have a translate injections, which gives me the translations for the component
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[12:04:29] <Bish> arlekin: and only for the component
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[12:04:43] <arlekin> Suriya: ;) sorry, we can't really help you with your issue, though don't hestitate to hang out here and ask in future
[12:04:47] <Bish> i imagine something like i inject "translations('my.component.name')
[12:05:10] <Suriya> yeah sure man.. :) i never stop asking ;P
[12:05:11] <arlekin> Bish: so you want to inject transaltion conditionally ?
[12:05:12] <Bish> i could easily generate a dozens of providers for that, or use a service
[12:05:39] <Bish> arlekin: i use angular-translate right now, where i have a huge constant having all translations "pathed"
[12:05:42] <Bish> like
[12:05:46] <Bish> some.component.does.something
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[12:05:57] <arlekin> Bish: not sure if get you but there is an $inject method that allows you to do angular DI injection in your controller
[12:06:01] <Bish> and i don't want to drive this massive string over and over and over, so i want it to be tanslations.something, maybe
[12:06:25] <Bish> arlekin: that could be helping yeah, i will look into it
[12:06:40] <Suriya> does any one here use codemirror or ace editor with angularjs (comiple and execute code)?
[12:06:49] <arlekin> Bish: well, it would be reasonable to put it in some .value, and have it injected in controllers (in regards of not having to copypaste massive value between parts)
[12:06:54] <angularjs875> Elarcis : thanks ok
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[12:08:00] <arlekin> Suriya: well, there is somthing for ace editor under angular-ui lib
[12:08:13] <arlekin> Suriya: http://angular-ui.github.io/ui-ace/
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[12:09:05] <arlekin> Suriya: compilation / interpretation seems like a harder part, but i guess, unless until it proves not good enough, you could try to embed some existing solution like plnkr or something alike
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[12:09:20] <Suriya> yeah i tried with this already but dont how to use 'eval' to compile for the output . has have came across lots of answer.but couldn't make it efficiently
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[12:10:07] <arlekin> Suriya: how many languages do you want to support, and how many have you done already ?
[12:10:32] <Suriya> arlekin .. so far i completed to compile and execute for HTML,CSS,Javascript coding part easily. but couldnt makt it for Python and R porgramming
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[12:11:08] <Suriya> need to support only python and R programming as per high school requirement
[12:11:09] <arlekin> Suriya: i imagine that trying to compile python in a browser would be a big project in and of itself
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[12:11:41] <Suriya> arlekin. yeas you're right.
[12:11:49] <arlekin> Suriya: what i think you should do is to take the code, send it to the server, then validate and interpret / compile it there, and then send output back to browser
[12:12:23] <arlekin> Suriya: obviously you'd need to sandbox it enough so that some student dont break your service
[12:12:27] <Suriya> but am taking this project for free of cost as this school management are not affordable buy from someone else
[12:13:11] <Bish> arlekin: how does that inject method work?
[12:13:24] <arlekin> Suriya: don't know your situation bro, and i generally think that doing things for education is a noble goal, but piece of advice from fellow dev: don't ever work for free
[12:13:45] <Suriya> actually. i got stacked about how to set env variable to node to run front code with backend server python interptr
[12:14:58] <arlekin> Bish: my bad, its "$injector" actually: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/auto/service/$injector
[12:15:00] <Suriya> 100% you're right but can i do if they told about they cant afford it frankly.. note in that school they're having only one machine to teach
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[12:15:11] <Suriya> *what can i do
[12:15:26] <Suriya> all i can do is something for free
[12:15:34] <arlekin> Suriya: as i said, personally i think its noble goal
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[12:15:43] <Bish> arlekin: i read that but i don't get quite how can i define what gets injected into my controller
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[12:15:58] <Suriya> Thank you bro
[12:16:15] <Bish> arlekin: i want it kinda like ngResource did it with "resolves"
[12:16:19] <arlekin> Bish: i see how it can be confusing, the way i use it usually i inject it into the controller normally
[12:16:50] <arlekin> Bish: and then in your controller you can do: $injector.get('stringNameOfThingToInject')
[12:16:53] <Bish> so i cannot "define" what gets inejcted, i rather have to use it bymself :(?
[12:17:28] <arlekin> Bish: not sure i understood
[12:17:51] <Bish> i thought i can simply "add" things to the things that get injected into my controller
[12:17:58] <Suriya> arlekin wer u from?
[12:18:02] <arlekin> Suriya: Poland
[12:18:08] <arlekin> Bish: well you can
[12:18:11] <Suriya> thats nice :)
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[12:18:38] <arlekin> Bish: i think that we don't really share a common vision of your issue, could you try and explain it from the start to me ?
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[12:19:22] <arlekin> Suriya: i guess... we are The East for the West countries, and The West for the East countries, kinda peculiar position
[12:19:49] <Suriya> any one here handled codemirror or ace editor (compile and run codes for python) with anularjs?
[12:19:51] <Bish> arlekin: i am aware of the fact that i can do $injector('something') to inject "something"
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[12:20:01] <Suriya> Lols, yeas you're right man
[12:20:12] <Bish> but i would rather be able to have an "inteceptor" for injections, which can add injections for certain controllers
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[12:20:59] <arlekin> Bish: ok, so if i understood correctly you would want to dynamically, during injection of something, inject something in that something being injected ?
[12:21:16] <arlekin> Bish: so kinda dynamically compose thing to be injected
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[12:22:25] <arlekin> Bish: correct ?
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[12:24:03] <Suriya> any one here handled codemirror or ace editor (compile and run codes for python) with anularjs?
[12:24:17] <Suriya> any one here handled codemirror or ace editor (compile and run codes for python, Rprogramming) with anularjs?
[12:24:39] <arlekin> Suriya: pro-tip dont spam, post again after your message disappears from your screen
[12:24:54] <arlekin> Suriya: people will get anoyed at best, and ban you at worst
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[12:25:15] <Suriya> ho.. extremlly sorry for that
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[12:25:23] <arlekin> Suriya: also neither of those things seems to do any compilation
[12:25:23] <Suriya> just post it for new joiners
[12:25:38] <Suriya> sorrrrrrryy for that
[12:25:47] <Suriya> i understand
[12:25:55] <arlekin> Suriya: still, better to keep some new joiner none the wiser, than annoy those already joined ;)
[12:26:07] <arlekin> anyway, did you check the link i gave you ?
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[12:26:13] <Suriya> oops..
[12:26:19] <Suriya> yeas already
[12:26:35] <Suriya> i mean couple of wk ago
[12:26:53] <arlekin> Suriya: actually, what i did was google: "aceeditor angular" and "codemirror angular"
[12:27:08] <Suriya> tryied with lots of available example, demo, step by step description .. lols
[12:27:16] <arlekin> Suriya: and seems that both editors have something ready-made on angular-ui
[12:27:40] <arlekin> Suriya: also the docs and examples on angular-ui are quite enough
[12:28:15] <arlekin> Suriya: https://angular-ui.github.io/ui-ace/
[12:28:22] <Suriya> yeas actually what they're doing is just highlight the syntax for available programming languages, providing some core error packs as well
[12:28:27] <arlekin> Suriya: https://angular-ui.github.io/ui-codemirror/
[12:28:43] <Suriya> thanks man lemme check and get back
[12:28:47] <arlekin> there you have it for working inside angularworld
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[12:29:37] <murosai> is it illegal to have span with ng-click inside a button? seems like ng-click is not triggered
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[12:29:56] <arlekin> murosai: depends what really gets clicked
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[12:30:14] <arlekin> murosai: it is entirely possible that you are actually clicking button and not span
[12:30:19] <ngWalrus> ^
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[12:30:35] <arlekin> murosai: regardless, thats kinda terrible idea, why would you want to do that
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[12:31:23] <ngWalrus> not good ux if you have to click on the button text and the event doesn't trigger on the whole button
[12:31:50] <arlekin> ngWalrus: not only not good, but actually actively bad
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[12:32:49] <murosai> arlekin: dunno im trying to maintain old code
[12:32:59] <arlekin> murosai: hahaha
[12:33:13] <arlekin> murosai: sorry, i mean that 'dunno' totally broke me
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[12:33:19] <murosai> :p
[12:33:34] <murosai> i'll try to move the click to button maybe that's enough
[12:33:50] <arlekin> murosai: well, should be, if not show us the code
[12:34:14] <arnas> in the PhoneCat tutorial's "Directory and File Organization" section they say we need to organize the files by feature. But they don't create separate folders for controllers, modules, views, services etc. Is this file organization common in real world apps?
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[12:34:56] <arlekin> arnas: hard to say, but by feature doesn't mean separate folders for controllers etc
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[12:36:08] <arnas> arlekin, but how to people organize their files in real world apps? Don't they create separate folders for controllers, modules, views etc?
[12:36:22] <ngWalrus> It depends
[12:36:27] <ngWalrus> whatever works
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[12:36:41] <Suriya> arlekin : everything is fine here.. its just simply projects the editor only but i need to show the output . as you can it codechef
[12:36:47] <Suriya> http://plnkr.co/edit/?p=preview check this
[12:36:52] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: maybe this is enlightening ? https://github.com/angular/angular-phonecat/tree/master/
[12:37:21] <arlekin> Suriya: empty plnkr, be sure to click save button before sharing
[12:37:36] <Bish> arlekin: correct
[12:37:38] <Suriya> arlekin: type there with console.log("test"); with javascript mode
[12:37:53] <arlekin> Suriya: well i know what plnkr does
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[12:38:26] <arlekin> Bish: not sure if thats possible in any sane way, and why would you want that ? maybe there is angular way to satisfy your need
[12:38:26] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, https://github.com/angular/angular-phonecat/tree/master/app so yea, for example wouldn't it be better to just move for example phone-list.component.js file fomr phone-list folder to a components folder?
[12:38:36] <ngWalrus> no
[12:38:47] <ngWalrus> you'll have to jump around folders a bunch
[12:38:58] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: that would defeat the ´by feature´ rule
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[12:39:19] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, I know, but isn't it better?
[12:39:22] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: the phone-list is a feature, so all code is there.
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[12:39:29] <arlekin> arnas: no it isn't
[12:39:37] <arnas> so for every new directive I need to create a new folder?
[12:39:37] <arlekin> for the same reasons mvc is absurd
[12:39:47] <arlekin> arnos nope, for every new feature
[12:39:59] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: from experience : jumping around the find partials, controllers and modules that define a feature is HORRIBLE.
[12:40:01] <arnas> arlekin, so where do I put a new directive?
[12:40:06] <ngWalrus> what Pyrrhus666 said
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[12:40:20] <arlekin> arnas: and even if - you create folder once, you are moving around codebase constantly
[12:40:26] <ngWalrus> I might make a subfolder for partials and shit if I get a lot of them
[12:40:31] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: don´t make the same mistake I made 2 years ago ;)
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[12:40:58] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, what mistake? creating folder for controllers, components etc.? :D
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[12:41:36] <arlekin> arnas: yup
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[12:41:50] <arnas> arlekin, so you don't like mvc?
[12:41:51] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: organizing by type first, and usage second. so all partials are in a /partials/* structure for example. it sucks.
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[12:42:34] <Pyrrhus666> I created a monster, and have no other excuse than that I didn´t know any better...
[12:42:35] <arlekin> arnas: its not i dont like it, i just think its pointless
[12:42:43] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, okay, but as I said, what if I create new directive for example, where should I put it?
[12:42:49] <arnas> arlekin, so what do you prefer then?
[12:42:51] <arlekin> arnas: an empty buzzword
[12:43:26] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: that depends. is it a separate feature, or is it a core thing that will be reused ?
[12:43:35] <arlekin> arnas: well i like the componentized approach, but i wouldn't say it instead mvc, but along it
[12:44:23] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, let's say a core feature that will be used once
[12:44:40] <arlekin> arnas: my complaint here is: mvc doesn't really mean that much - whatever you do you take from or store to something your data (model) you have some interface to that (view) and some plumbing between those things (controller, or viewmodel or whatever)
[12:44:45] <arnas> wait.. what's the difference between separate feature and core feature? :D
[12:44:55] <arlekin> arnas: so it doesn't really bring anything to the table
[12:45:08] <arnas> arlekin, well, you have to organize your files somehow..
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[12:45:20] <Pyrrhus666> I did not use the term ´core feature´ ;P
[12:45:34] <arnas> so what's "core thing"
[12:45:35] <arnas> ?
[12:45:41] <arlekin> arnas: and dividing your code horizontally like that is just plain stupid - you very rarely work on some controller only, rarer still on all controllers
[12:46:02] <arlekin> arnas: when you do something you do it for some real world reason, you change or add some functionality
[12:46:08] <Pyrrhus666> if it´s a basic directive that is reused, but does not define a feature, put it in core. otherwise define it with the feature where it is actually used.
[12:46:18] <arnas> so that course on Udemy by Dan Wahlin was probably bad, because that's exactly what he suggested - create separate folder for controllers, views etc.
[12:46:46] <arlekin> therefore, details aside, you should structure your code in a way that allows for easy work with particular feature
[12:47:00] <arnas> arlekin, makes sense
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[12:47:21] <arlekin> arnas: so at least in my opinion vertical beats horizontal
[12:47:43] <arlekin> arnas: you do have the horizontal separation by nature - database code, api, frontend
[12:48:13] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: check out https://github.com/toddmotto/angular-styleguide#scalable-file-structure
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[12:48:37] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: heard good things about John Papa's one
[12:48:38] <Pyrrhus666> (just read the whole thing while your at it ;)
[12:48:50] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, so common folder is like core?
[12:49:06] <Pyrrhus666> arlekin: true. this one is more geared towards component() and an upgrade path to ng2
[12:49:22] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: yes.
[12:49:30] <arlekin> arnas: well there is no golden standard AFAIK, just use something reasonable that works for you/ your team
[12:49:46] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: althoug icebox has a thing or two to say about that ;)
[12:50:22] <arnas> arlekin, I want to start using/learning ng1 well and make as few mistakes as possible
[12:50:34] <icebox> arlekin: Todd Motto and John Papa code style guide are very worthy reading
[12:50:40] <icebox> arnas: Todd Motto and John Papa code style guide are very worthy reading
[12:50:45] <icebox> arnas: sorry... mistell
[12:50:55] <arnas> I know :P
[12:51:14] <icebox> arnas: no errors, no learning
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[12:51:30] <arnas> icebox, well, I am discussing right now and learning from it
[12:51:42] <arnas> but I agree, errors is a good way to learn, too
[12:51:54] <icebox> arnas: the answers are in those guides
[12:52:26] <Pyrrhus666> icebox: didn´t you have some post about the horrors of using a ´common´ folder in your project layout, or was that someone else ?
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[12:53:54] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I don't remember
[12:54:20] <Pyrrhus666> icebox: could be someone else, but I remember having a discussion about it here months ago :)
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[12:54:58] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: common folder and common module is ok here: https://github.com/toddmotto/angular-styleguide
[12:55:36] <Pyrrhus666> icebox: I know, that´s how the discussion got started ;) ah well, this way is better than most imho :)
[12:55:51] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: "common" means app dependent code, where "component" means reusable component in another app
[12:56:09] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: in that context
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[12:56:30] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: *"components"
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[12:57:55] <Pyrrhus666> ah yes. imho that´s pretty irrelevant in most cases. most code will never be reused ´as-is´ in other project. and if it is, you make it a dependency and it will end up in /vendor/ or somesuch directory...
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[13:00:39] <arnas> https://github.com/angular/angular-phonecat/blob/step-5/app/phone-list/phone-list.template.html shouldn't query be available inside phone-list's constructor as this.query?
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[13:01:37] <arnas> controller I mean
[13:01:44] <icebox> arnas: maybe... but it is used only in the template
[13:01:50] <arnas> because right now if I do console.log(this.query) it prints undefined
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[13:03:42] <arnas> icebox, so how can I access it in the controller?
[13:03:52] <icebox> arnas: add it to the controller
[13:03:58] <icebox> arnas: if you use it
[13:04:12] <arnas> icebox, like through arguments or what?
[13:04:18] <icebox> arnas: no
[13:04:43] <icebox> arnas: this.query = "";
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[13:05:21] <arnas> icebox, but how do I access the value that's inside the input?
[13:05:35] <icebox> arnas: are you kidding me?
[13:06:12] <arnas> icebox, this just creates a new variable inside the controller. It doesn't let me to access the input
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[13:06:34] <arnas> oh, it actually does. :D
[13:06:34] <icebox> arnas: $ctrl.query in the template?
[13:06:48] <arnas> I just wrote this.query = "aaa"; and it put the aaa inside the input
[13:06:55] <icebox> arnas: please, read docs and take your time to play with thte code
[13:06:58] <arnas> but shouldn't the controller be called everytime I type in something?
[13:07:09] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: the magic bit is $ctrl = this ;)
[13:07:17] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, I know that
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[13:07:24] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: no, this is just variable binding.
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[13:08:54] <SamuelX> are there any people here?
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[13:09:03] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, so is it possible to access the value after I type in to the input field?
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[13:09:18] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: it would be interesting a bot searching text in channel logs :)
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[13:09:44] <Pyrrhus666> icebox: certainly :)
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[13:10:25] <SamuelX> I want to understand @component deco in angular 2. What I am understanding is that @Component comes with the imported Component module (class) and that the class is preceded by a @component without parentheses?
[13:10:36] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: yes. the value in the input is bound to $ctrl.query, which is essentially this.query as seen from the controller. it is bound 2-way, so whereever you change it, it will reflect on the ´other side´
[13:11:11] <SamuelX> When we import the component module we use the decorator expression @Component and give it an object literal with properties?
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[13:11:14] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, but if I write console.log(this.query) inside the controller, it prints the value only once
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[13:11:21] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: if you put {{$ctrl.query}} somewhere in the template you can see the value change as you type.
[13:11:29] <Elarcis> SamuelX: yes
[13:11:32] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, I know, already tried that
[13:11:36] <SamuelX> my question is, how does the imported component recognize the component class at the bottom?
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[13:11:43] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: yes, because the controller is called once, as it is contstructed.
[13:12:06] <icebox> arnas: if you need to do something when the value is changed, you may use ng-change
[13:12:08] <Elarcis> SamuelX: the role of a decorator is basically to run code to register your component, and add metadata to the classes to which you prepend the decorator
[13:12:22] <icebox> arnas: or a key handler
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[13:12:35] <arnas> icebox, oh, so like ng-change="foo()" and then create a function foo inside the controller?
[13:12:37] <frappy> hi
[13:12:50] <Elarcis> SamuelX: decorators are a typescript (orES6?) specific syntax, but basically your components are identified by type in this case
[13:12:54] <frappy> how to set the label within a text field?
[13:13:15] <Foxandxss> frappy: I don't follow
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[13:13:26] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: yes.
[13:13:34] <arnas> ok, thanks :) it makes sense now
[13:13:38] <Elarcis> SamuelX: it would equal to do something like angular.registerComponent({your metadata}, YourComponentClass), except using anotations it's more sexy
[13:13:39] <SamuelX> Elarcis but how does angular recognizes the class in which we put the logic in?
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[13:14:02] <Elarcis> SamuelX: because that's the class that directly follows the decorator
[13:14:13] <Foxandxss> SamuelX: a decorator gets applied to the next sentence
[13:14:16] <frappy> am creating a form in that i don't want separate labels,i want to display label within the square block
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[13:14:23] <SamuelX> so that's part of the decorator expression syntax?
[13:14:24] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: the controller sets up the scope as it is constructed, with variables and function etc. after it´s constructed, that´s all available from the template.
[13:14:25] <Foxandxss> so if the next sentence is a class, it gets applied to the class
[13:14:32] <Elarcis> SamuelX: @Component(...)
[13:14:48] <Elarcis> SamuelX: have you done Java or C# before?
[13:14:49] <frappy> am creating a form in that i don't want separate labels,i want to display label within the square block foxandxss
[13:14:55] <SamuelX> yes
[13:14:56] <Foxandxss> I don't follow
[13:15:18] <SamuelX> I tried to understand decorators through the ts guide
[13:15:19] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, and where would be a "correct" place to define a function that I would use for ng-change? inside the controller?
[13:15:21] <frappy> i don't use twitter even
[13:15:24] <Elarcis> SamuelX: it is the same than putting @Override in Java, or [annotation] in C#
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[13:15:56] <Elarcis> SamuelX: basically decorators are syntaxic sugar for a piece of code that wraps the instruction next to it
[13:16:01] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: yes. because the controller+template defines the scope in which this function is used.
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[13:16:16] <SamuelX> what i got is that the decorator customizes the already existent class with metadata that can be added later, and that to add meta data you have to use the decorator as an expression (like this @component() )
[13:16:34] <Foxandxss> angular reads that metadata to do stuff
[13:16:44] <Elarcis> SamuelX: well no, metadata is not added later, it's read at runtime, once
[13:16:48] <frappy> anyone here who can help me?
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[13:16:51] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, what if I am going to use this function in 3 different templates? It would be stupid to define the same function in 3 different controllers
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[13:17:03] <Foxandxss> frappy: I don't understand your question
[13:17:04] <SamuelX> Elarcis: I get that but how does the decorator expression @Component({}) recognizes the component after it
[13:17:16] <Elarcis> SamuelX: because it's right after it
[13:17:22] <SamuelX> ok i get it now
[13:17:23] <Foxandxss> SamuelX: that is a language feature
[13:17:29] <Elarcis> SamuelX: unless you be more specific, we're not getting what you don't understand
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[13:17:37] <Foxandxss> is like asking "how javascript knows that `var a = 10` is for creating a variable?
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[13:17:42] <SamuelX> no no
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[13:18:30] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: then you´d probably make a directive of the whole thing (controller logic + template) and reuse _that_.
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[13:18:42] <frappy> foxandxss see the form below line "it's free and always will be" https://www.facebook.com/ ......i want to do something like this
[13:18:50] <Elarcis> SamuelX: read this for more details on how decorators know their stuff https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/decorators.html
[13:18:51] <Pyrrhus666> arnas: for now, I wouldn´t yet concern yourself with that :)
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[13:19:03] <Foxandxss> frappy: where?
[13:19:04] <SamuelX> last question, does import work similarly to other language like java and c# or c++? does it copy the component into the source importing it?
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[13:19:15] <ccc> hello friends
[13:19:18] <frappy> click on that link :D
[13:19:33] <icebox> frappy: that is html... "placeholder" attr
[13:19:45] <SamuelX> does it copy the module i mean Elarcis?
[13:19:55] <Foxandxss> frappy: I don't have a facebook
[13:19:58] <Elarcis> SamuelX: no, it's getting a reference to the thing, not including it
[13:20:07] <arnas> Pyrrhus666, fine :D thanks
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[13:20:22] <Elarcis> SamuelX: you don't get heavier code by importing more stuff
[13:20:43] <Elarcis> SamuelX: well unless you install libraries of course
[13:20:51] <frappy> icebox angular don't have separate attr for it?
[13:21:10] <Foxandxss> ohh
[13:21:13] <Foxandxss> I get you know frappy
[13:21:16] <Foxandxss> and yes, placeholder
[13:21:17] <SamuelX> I get everything right now!
[13:21:21] <SamuelX> thanks Elarcis
[13:22:08] <icebox> frappy: angular is a mvc framework not a widget one
[13:22:23] <frappy> ok bro thanks!
[13:22:34] <frappy> foxandxss finally xD
[13:22:57] <SamuelX> so you import the component, angular instantiates it, then the decorator registers the metadata you specify plus an instance of your component class. I my understanding correct?
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[13:23:43] <Elarcis> SamuelX: almost
[13:23:51] <Elarcis> SamuelX: the metadata is associated with your class, not the object
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[13:24:19] <SamuelX> alright
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[13:24:32] <Elarcis> oh well
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[13:30:02] <Elarcis> wow; sleepy irght now
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[13:30:40] <Elarcis> like yoooo, just wanna flop on the gorund
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[13:31:03] <angularjs875> Hey again
[13:31:03] <xochilpili> hi all,
[13:31:14] <xochilpili> i have this issue: https://plnkr.co/edit/EnolunhTpEql25N4l9R4?p=preview
[13:31:23] <Pyrrhus666> so what´s keeping you upright in your chair then Elarcis ?
[13:31:46] <frappy> maybe glue pyrrhus666
[13:31:53] <angularjs875> https://plnkr.co/edit/ykWEGREQO7omFRTNnbIa?p=preview
[13:31:55] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: its back
[13:31:56] <angularjs875> does someone can help me
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[13:32:15] <angularjs875> line 62
[13:32:18] <angularjs875> i got an error
[13:32:21] <angularjs875> dico is undefined
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[13:32:39] <Elarcis> angularjs875: there's no dico line 62
[13:32:56] <xochilpili> with ng-repeat, please, select on room, 1 adult, and 2 kids, then in the age section, the index 0 is working fine, but age 1 when selected, then adds a new array outside: [ages: {id:1,age:x}] insteead of assinged into the array
[13:33:24] <Elarcis> angularjs875: it's line 184, and you have to put a new Dico()
[13:33:34] <Elarcis> angularjs875: not new dico()
[13:34:05] <angularjs875> wrong link x)
[13:34:06] <angularjs875> https://plnkr.co/edit/rpVwzwYINehQpGm4Yywt?p=preview
[13:34:08] <xochilpili> angularjs875, qu'est ce que?
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[13:34:50] <xochilpili> some help?
[13:34:54] <Elarcis> angularjs875: well it's pretty obvious then, you're sending undefined into the dico parameter
[13:35:14] <Pyrrhus666> dicodicodico dicodicodico
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[13:35:40] <xochilpili> https://plnkr.co/edit/EnolunhTpEql25N4l9R4?p=preview << ng-repeat add a new array "ages" into the object "hab"
[13:36:06] <angularjs875> Elarcis: i cant access it like that?
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[13:36:31] <Elarcis> angularjs875: you're again mistaking a type with a variable
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[13:37:00] <Elarcis> angularjs875: you're calling the dico variable, which is a parameter of your function
[13:37:24] <Elarcis> angularjs875: if you want to call the class Dico, write it correctly. JS is case sensitive
[13:37:59] <grug> please tell me "dico" is pronounced "dicko"
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[13:38:11] <angularjs875> it is
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[13:38:35] <xochilpili> please, some help with this...
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[13:38:51] <angularjs875> Elarcis : line 200 monthsDict isnt a var?
[13:39:01] <Elarcis> angularjs875: you said line 62
[13:39:42] <Elarcis> angularjs875: no, monthsDict is an object's property and but Dico is not
[13:39:46] <Elarcis> *and Dico is a class
[13:40:04] <angularjs875> the problem is line 62 after the call line 201
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[13:40:23] <Elarcis> angularjs875: wait no, dico here is undefined because it's a property of your factory object which you can't access from there, how you've done it
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[13:40:39] <Elarcis> angularjs875: oh I see
[13:40:41] <angularjs875> Elarcis: how could i acces it? i have to put it out of the return?
[13:40:45] <Elarcis> angularjs875: you can't use 'this' like that
[13:41:07] <Elarcis> angularjs875: 1. name your functions, and put them out of the return
[13:41:07] <angularjs875> Elarcis : aww x:
[13:41:29] <angularjs875> Elarcis: even if i want to use them outside?
[13:41:31] <Elarcis> angularjs875: then in your return, replace your functions by just their name. like add: add, taille: taille, etc.
[13:41:41] <angularjs875> oh ok
[13:41:43] <Elarcis> angularjs875: it's not pretty but if you're doing ES6 you can just do add, taille, etc.
[13:42:06] <angularjs875> Elarcis: No ES6 x)
[13:42:09] <Elarcis> angularjs875: you can then access these functions from the inside of your factory
[13:42:31] <Elarcis> angularjs875: you can also save monthsDict in a var before the return and also use it in your factory
[13:43:00] <Elarcis> angularjs875: property of your return object can't be accessed because you're currently in it
[13:43:18] <Elarcis> angularjs875: a /simpler/ solution might be to store your return object in a var, and then return that object
[13:43:41] <Elarcis> so that everything can be accessed in that var
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[13:44:54] <angularjs875> yeah that what i was doing before but this factory is from one of my mate
[13:45:03] <angularjs875> before i was creating a var exactly like this return
[13:45:09] <angularjs875> then returning the var
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[13:49:47] <Elarcis> angularjs875: doing that is fine
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[13:55:06] <angularjs408> Elarcis: so it should work like that ? : https://plnkr.co/edit/rpVwzwYINehQpGm4Yywt?p=preview
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[13:56:08] <Elarcis> awww <3
[13:56:39] <Pyrrhus666> you can keep it, it´s f*cking hot here anyway ;)
[13:56:51] <angularjs408> Elarcis: so it should work like that ? : https://plnkr.co/edit/rpVwzwYINehQpGm4Yywt?p=preview
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[13:57:47] <Elarcis> angularjs408: yes, but please. NAME your function, there's no need to assign them to variables, it's just begging for bugs
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[13:58:12] <Elarcis> (bugs and hard to maintain code)
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[13:59:20] <angularjs408> Elarcis: uhm how? x)
[13:59:39] <Elarcis> function sortData() { }
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[14:00:45] <angularjs408> oh ok i thought that naming was puting em into a var
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[14:02:00] <ngWalrus> Sometimes it's best to not overthink things
[14:02:36] <ngWalrus> Massive headaches on how to get a mixed list of new values without IDs and ones with IDs to play along nicely in an ng-repeat
[14:02:40] <angularjs408> btw i didnt knew that i was puting them into var
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[14:03:03] <ngWalrus> Spoiler alert: not worth the trouble
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[14:08:47] <angularjs408> Elarcis: i dont have any error anymore sadly if i modify my var test my actions is not modified x:
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[14:14:16] <LIERO> stupid question of the day
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[14:15:23] <LIERO> I have a directive that records audio, I want to access the recorded audio blob to write it to disk.
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[14:16:34] <ngWalrus> is the question "how"
[14:17:04] <Pyrrhus666> wasn´t there a filewriter of sorts for this ?
[14:17:20] <LIERO> can I pass the blob to my controller or should I call a factory from within the directive
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[14:17:28] <LIERO> yeah
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[14:19:17] <Pyrrhus666> I think I´m confused with serving a download of a blob... writing files locally from js is a different beast.
[14:20:02] <LIERO> right, it´s node+angular
[14:20:10] <LIERO> nwjs, specifically
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[14:21:46] <ngWalrus> I think Pyrrhus666 has it right
[14:21:48] <Pyrrhus666> in node you can probably access the filesystem, but I have no idea how, I don´t use node
[14:22:01] <ngWalrus> Yeah in node you can access the file system
[14:22:02] <LIERO> i know how to write a file
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[14:22:05] <ngWalrus> in browser you can't
[14:22:14] <LIERO> you can with node webkit
[14:23:02] <ngWalrus> also writing directly to disk from a webpage is pretty shit
[14:23:12] <ngWalrus> (as in to the client's disk)
[14:23:18] <LIERO> my idea is, do I have to edit the directive code so it passes the blob to factory and declare the factory as a dependency, or is there a way to pass the ¨value of the blob¨ (<-if that´s a thiing) to a $scope.something in my controller
[14:23:44] <LIERO> I would prefer the latter, because this guy´s code is cryptic to me and I don´t want to break it by editing his directive
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[14:24:16] <Pyrrhus666> this is what I was referring to : https://alferov.github.io/angular-file-saver/
[14:24:17] <ngWalrus> if you already have the blob just grab it's data.url and serve it as a download
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[14:25:20] <LIERO> hm
[14:25:44] <LIERO> i want to write it to disk so then I can do other things to it, I don´t want a save prompt
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[14:26:05] <LIERO> in particular, send it to Google Speech API
[14:26:13] <Pyrrhus666> LIERO: that would limit you to saving it server-side.
[14:26:17] <LIERO> which may actually just take the blob, no need to writeto disk? >.>
[14:26:24] <Preuk> LIERO: if you want to perform stuff on user machine, maybe a web app is not the right choice...
[14:26:25] <Pyrrhus666> and you know how to do that you said ;)
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[14:27:14] <LIERO> i didn´t invent NWJS you know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[14:27:24] <Preuk> :D
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[14:28:36] <Pyrrhus666> LIERO: but it was your choice to use it ;)
[14:28:45] <ngWalrus> or a legacy project
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[14:28:59] <Pyrrhus666> ngWalrus: you´re right. could be.
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[14:29:27] <Elarcis> outch, teaching regexes to my PM
[14:29:44] <Elarcis> well regexes are fun, but
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[14:29:54] <Preuk> Elarcis: now you have 2 problems.
[14:29:54] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: you have a prime minister ? wow ;)
[14:29:54] <ngWalrus> so is ur mum
[14:29:57] <ngWalrus> fffuuu
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[14:31:00] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: project manager, silly
[14:31:13] <Elarcis> was gonna say 'you ding dong', but not sure how offensive that is
[14:31:20] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: so, same thing essentially :)
[14:31:33] <Pyrrhus666> just say dico dico.
[14:32:08] <Elarcis> XDD
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[14:32:48] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I vote for having 'dicodico' our new local slang for 'silly'
[14:32:59] <Pyrrhus666> +!
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[14:33:04] <Pyrrhus666> +1
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[14:33:52] <Preuk> /0
[14:33:56] <Pyrrhus666> oh, bother.
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[14:37:50] <Elarcis> Preuk: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
[14:39:04] * Elarcis disappears in a swirl of void and unexistence under the pressure of the infinite improbabilities engendered by this division by zero
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[14:41:59] <Pyrrhus666> which oddly enough reminds me of http://idiom.ucsd.edu/~bakovic/camba_files/misc/ll/babelfish.html
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[14:42:32] <angularjs891> hello folks
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[14:43:42] <Preuk> Elarcis: rebooted your universe?
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[14:44:04] <Elarcis> Preuk: thanks TO YOU
[14:44:05] <Pyrrhus666> Preuk: no, that´s after dividing by cucumber.
[14:44:08] <Elarcis> Preuk: >:c
[14:44:45] <Elarcis> +++MELON MELON MELON+++
[14:44:59] <Pyrrhus666> ¨speak friend and enter¨
[14:45:14] <Elarcis> friend! [enter]
[14:45:31] <Pyrrhus666> sorry, needs to be in elvish.
[14:45:46] <Elarcis> DAMMIT
[14:45:55] <Preuk> nice try
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[14:49:53] <Elarcis> I hate everything today
[14:50:24] <Pyrrhus666> :(
[14:50:36] <Elarcis> yes Pyrrhus666, even you
[14:50:50] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: that blanket was fooling nobody
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[14:51:06] <Pyrrhus666> dammit... another plan foiled...
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[14:54:51] <Preuk> got a minor issue with ngModule; we've our app updated to RC6 but only one module (just encapsulated all of our components in "app" module)
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[14:55:37] <Preuk> but then i can't use both JiT and AoT, as JiT requires resource path from app root
[14:56:01] <Preuk> like "templateUrl: 'app/login/login.html',"
[14:56:15] <Preuk> but AoT uses links local to the component
[14:56:19] <Elarcis> Preuk: damn
[14:56:21] <Preuk> what am i doing wrong?
[14:56:28] <Elarcis> Preuk: it does?
[14:56:31] <Elarcis> Preuk: AT LAST
[14:56:38] <Preuk> (that's templateUrl: './login.html',)
[14:56:50] <Preuk> (yes, finaly got AoT working with 0.6.0 :p)
[14:57:04] <Elarcis> Preuk: using a bundler?
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[14:57:17] <Preuk> only systemJS setup from quickstart
[14:57:23] <Elarcis> Preuk: damn
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[14:57:43] <Elarcis> Preuk: I suppose inline templates aren't a reasonnable option?
[14:58:26] <Preuk> nope, not everywhere
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[15:00:48] <frappy> can padding be done with ng-style?
[15:01:54] <icebox> frappy: ng-style injects css... so the question is... can I set padding with css? yes, you can (and it is a css question) :)
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[15:02:56] <frappy> that group is almost silent,thanks anyways :)
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[15:03:36] <icebox> frappy: you are welcome
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[15:05:30] <frappy> padding is not working:/
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[15:08:35] <icebox> frappy: here it works :)
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[15:11:21] <frappy> i located my form to desired position by using "left" and "top" giving pixels to them, and now when am trying to resize the form its not working :/
[15:11:38] <icebox> frappy: you css is broken
[15:11:52] <frappy> ohh
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[15:12:13] <frappy> its actually shifting the form to left not resizing it
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[15:12:50] <Elarcis> frappy: yes, this is not padding
[15:13:16] <frappy> so what should i do now?
[15:13:21] <icebox> Elarcis: well... it is padding... in responsive layout :)
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[15:13:50] <Elarcis> frappy: learn CSS?
[15:14:06] <frappy> you too :D
[15:14:39] <icebox> yes, all we need to learn something :P
[15:14:52] <Elarcis> at the difference that I don't have issues with CSS :D
[15:15:10] <icebox> frappy: but here it is #angularjs not #css
[15:15:18] <Elarcis> I'd like to learn Haskell though
[15:15:22] <Elarcis> seems like a cool language
[15:15:38] <frappy> icebox elarcis ok buddies will try it on my own :D
[15:16:09] <frappy> haskell is scripting language?
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[15:29:13] <Elarcis> GOODBYE STRANGER
[15:29:18] <Elarcis> IT'S BEEN NICE
[15:29:59] <icebox> Elarcis: ?
[15:30:10] <Elarcis> listening to supertramp
[15:30:11] <Preuk> supertramp -_-'
[15:30:32] <Elarcis> WHAT
[15:30:53] <Preuk> this thing won't go out of my mind for the rest of the day. thanks a lot.
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[15:34:44] <Elarcis> you're welcome Preuk
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[15:40:28] <Pyrrhus666> nothing a quick 30 seconds of nyan cat won´t cure :)
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[15:41:27] <Preuk> Pyrrhus666: i'm with Elarcis on this one : i hate you. gimme my brains back
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[15:44:51] <Elarcis> is there a simple way to add classes to the host of a component in angularjs 1.x?
[15:45:05] <Pyrrhus666> Preuk: take this then : https://youtu.be/Ebm69gW9UlI?t=1m24s and enjoy at least the first part
[15:45:16] <Elarcis> I need classes to be applied to the component's host element due to strict CSS rules, and I don't want to have to make a directive for that...
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[15:46:09] <Preuk> Pyrrhus666: won't fall for that
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[15:47:00] <Pyrrhus666> Preuk: both sfw and actual good music no rickroll anyhting. listening myself too ;)
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[15:48:15] <Pyrrhus666> Preuk: it´s ¨Spring 1¨ from ¨reimagining vivaldi¨ by max richter.
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[15:49:01] <icebox> Elarcis: do you mean for "component's host element" the element defined by the selector?
[15:49:31] <Elarcis> icebox: exactly, except I'm in angularjs 1.x
[15:49:43] <Preuk> Pyrrhus666: thanks, bookmarking it for later, can't listen to it now
[15:49:53] <intruder> how to call a function which is in another js file from a view with another controller attached to it?
[15:49:54] <icebox> Elarcis: ok... the name of the component
[15:50:07] <Elarcis> icebox: my component is a menu item, and I need to add classes to it depending on its state
[15:50:09] <Elarcis> icebox: what?
[15:50:18] <bd-> hmm i had to do that for something
[15:50:37] <bd-> you cna't use ng-class on it?
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[15:50:51] <intruder> ?
[15:50:55] <Elarcis> icebox: yes, if I had this component <my-component></my-component>, I'd want its controller to add classes to the <my-component> tag
[15:50:58] <icebox> Elarcis: ...defined by the selector... in ng1 the name of the component
[15:51:07] <icebox> Elarcis: ok
[15:51:22] <Elarcis> icebox: because fuck Semantic-UI's strict CSS rules
[15:51:35] <icebox> Elarcis: maybe there is a "style" properrty
[15:53:26] <Elarcis> icebox: apparently we used to be able to inject $element in the controller, but I can't find it in the doc
[15:53:51] <bd-> why don't you get element from the link function?
[15:54:12] <icebox> bd-: no link function in the component
[15:54:21] <bd-> so make it a directive
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[15:56:29] <icebox> For reference: Component versus Directive in AngularJS - https://gist.github.com/toddmotto/5b4de6c777d3e446e6410fdadb824522
[15:57:25] <bd-> > Use a Directive for binding custom behaviour to existing DOM.
[15:57:31] <bd-> so isn't using component the wrong choice then?
[15:57:45] <Elarcis> icebox: ok, so apparently I can use the $postLink hook to be run after the link()
[15:57:57] <Elarcis> icebox: and I can anyway inject $element which points to the host
[15:58:22] <bd-> wait, inject $element into the controller?
[15:58:36] <Elarcis> bd-: it's a layout component, it's just that these freakin CSS classes need to be applied on the very component
[15:58:50] <Elarcis> bd-: I'd rather not do it indeed
[15:58:54] <Elarcis> bd-: or have a directive manage it
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[15:59:12] <icebox> Elarcis: ok
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[15:59:25] <bd-> so everyone said don't do dom in controller... but now it's recommended to do dom in controller?
[15:59:28] <Elarcis> bd-: but that'd mean having to manage the item state at root level, so more calls going back and forth
[15:59:39] <Elarcis> bd-: that's why I'm not hot about it
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[16:00:30] <argshook> bd-: hey i maybe missed your initial problem but for adding classes you should be able to use ng-class, no?
[16:00:33] <bd-> can you do it with scope inheritance?
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[16:01:37] <bd-> i think that's what i ended up doing for something similar a while ago
[16:01:55] <bd-> or used .parent() in link function of the child
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[16:02:28] <argshook> bd-: wait, you need to add css class on parent depending on some child action?
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[16:02:56] <bd-> no, i don't need to do anything
[16:03:02] <bd-> it's Elarcis
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[16:04:13] <Elarcis> argshook: not on 'parent', on the host element
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[16:04:37] <Elarcis> argshook: which is the element containing the component's template
[16:04:40] <bd-> is the host the parent though?
[16:04:46] <Elarcis> bd-: no it's not
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[16:04:50] <bd-> are we talking <parent><child/><child/></parent> ?
[16:05:11] <Elarcis> bd-: no, we're talking about <child></child>
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[16:05:19] <Elarcis> bd-: ok. a component has a template, right?
[16:05:23] <bd-> yes
[16:05:29] <Elarcis> bd-: well I'm talking about the very element that wraps that template
[16:05:48] <bd-> right, so the parent of the top of the template?
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[16:06:03] <zibaldone> Hello there
[16:06:06] <Elarcis> bd-: it's not parent, because that element is part of the parent
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[16:06:38] <zibaldone> sorry maybe a newbie question here: is it possible to implement browser history when navigating through tabs that are not linked to html pages?
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[16:07:06] <Elarcis> zibaldone: yes it is
[16:07:16] <Elarcis> zibaldone: but you may want to have a routing module to manage that
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[16:08:01] <zibaldone> mm a routing module..? where should I look Elarcis? (sorry quite new to angular)
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[16:08:14] <Elarcis> zibaldone: angular 1 or 2?
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[16:08:21] <zibaldone> angular 1
[16:08:22] <Elarcis> zibaldone: if 1, uiRouter
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[16:09:07] <bd-> i don't really understand what the problem is then Elarcis, sounds like a directive is the correct thing to do
[16:09:07] <argshook> Elarcis: what is the reason you need the component element (and not it's template root element)?
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[16:09:12] <icebox> zibaldone: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22247294/how-do-i-get-the-back-button-to-work-with-an-angularjs-ui-router-state-machine
[16:09:24] <argshook> Elarcis: because it seems to me you could just use ng-class
[16:09:36] <Elarcis> argshook: strict CSS rules, if I apply the class to a child element, it won't be selected by CSS
[16:09:38] <zibaldone> ok thank you Elarcis and icebox
[16:10:13] <Elarcis> argshook: no, I can't just use ng-class like I'd want to
[16:10:36] <bd-> how come you can't you use ng-class?
[16:10:38] <argshook> Elarcis: ah, you don't have control of CSS
[16:11:00] <Elarcis> argshook: no, I'm using Semantic-UI, which you should avoid
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[16:12:36] <eggzz> Do someone know why the declaration of a component breaks ng-repeat, in this example? http://plnkr.co/edit/NN4WrxMJIFlwmlXOb1o8
[16:12:47] <Elarcis> Oh
[16:12:48] <Elarcis> OOOOH
[16:12:50] <Elarcis> OOOOOOOOH
[16:12:54] <Elarcis> I can do something
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[16:13:27] <Elarcis> I'll make a menu-item directive, that does the DOM edits
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[16:13:43] <Elarcis> then in my component, I'll require that directive, and call its edit functions from there
[16:13:46] <Elarcis> piece o' cake
[16:13:49] <icebox> eggzz: errors in console... please, fix them
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[16:14:16] <icebox> Elarcis: nice
[16:14:17] <eggzz> icebox: ok, missed that
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[16:16:15] <Elarcis> stoopid question
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[16:16:44] <Elarcis> if I add a function to the scope via the link function
[16:16:51] <Elarcis> is that function accessible from the controller?
[16:16:53] <bd-> yes
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[16:17:16] <Elarcis> thanks, a big mystery of the universe has been solved for me
[16:18:02] <bd-> i don't know if you'd want to tohugh
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[16:20:16] <Elarcis> I definitely want
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[16:20:19] <Elarcis> this is ok in my book
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[16:22:17] <Pyrrhus666> everything is allowed in the battle against any css framework ;)
[16:23:29] <frappy> can i import script within a body?
[16:23:41] <Pyrrhus666> frappy: yes
[16:23:47] <Elarcis> frappy: yes you can
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[16:24:06] <Elarcis> frappy: but why import it in a script tag when you can just run it?
[16:24:30] <frappy> i don't get you
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[16:24:55] <Elarcis> frappy: what do you want to do?
[16:24:57] <Pyrrhus666> nobody does ;)
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[16:25:52] <Elarcis> ;u;
[16:25:55] <icebox> frappy: for lazy loading?
[16:26:10] <frappy> am making two forms in my file,one is simple and another is a bit cool so i want to import bootstrap for second form
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[16:26:29] <frappy> or is there any other way without importing it?
[16:26:47] <Elarcis> frappy: ah. if you're downloading the bootstrap's JS script, just download the file and eval() it I guess?
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[16:27:33] <frappy> icebox ya i know it will increase the loading time ,so what's the better option?
[16:27:50] <bd-> create script tag element, set source to bootstrap js then append it to body
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[16:27:51] <Elarcis> frappy: include it from the beginning is your only other option
[16:27:51] <bd-> don't eval it pls
[16:28:00] <Elarcis> bd-: won't change a thing :D
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[16:28:38] <bd-> won't change what?
[16:28:44] <Elarcis> bd-: security
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[16:29:02] <Elarcis> bd-: in any case your script is downloaded, and can be fiddled with before running it
[16:29:22] <bd-> well you can't xmlhttpreq to get the bootstrapjs from a cdn as far as i'm aware
[16:29:45] <bd-> because security
[16:30:01] <Elarcis> bd-: maybe they're not using a cdn
[16:30:11] <bd-> maybe they are
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[16:30:45] <icebox> frappy: don't add complexity to the app (at least at the beginning)... if you have not hundreds of modules, you can load the js as usual
[16:31:03] <frappy> ya cool then
[16:31:09] <bd-> yea just load it from cdn then it'll possibly be cached on the client anyways
[16:31:15] <bd-> so not really any additional burden
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[16:32:17] <icebox> frappy: next step would concatenate js files using a build process
[16:32:18] <frappy> but its changing my whole setting
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[16:32:38] <icebox> frappy: but you can see that a bit later :)
[16:32:48] <frappy> ok bro
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[16:33:32] <icebox> frappy: sooner or later you need to deal with routing and building :)
[16:33:55] <frappy> haha yup
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[16:34:18] <frappy> but currently this bootstrap stylesheet is ruining my whole web page
[16:34:38] <bd-> won't it ruin it if you include it at runtime too though?
[16:34:45] <frappy> even after using it within a body
[16:34:56] <bd-> there's not really much you can do about that
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[16:35:18] <bd-> either bootstrapify everything or change all your markup to not get messed by with by bootstrap
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[16:35:50] <frappy> ya i have to go for any other option
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[16:35:55] <argshook> frappy: you could use sass version of bootstrap and import only the parts of bootstrap that you need
[16:36:18] <star_prone> hi
[16:36:36] <frappy> argshook i don't know that much about bootstrap,i only used it in making forms
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[16:37:15] <Elarcis> frappy: you could use iframes!
[16:37:22] <frappy> these css kinda things sucks ,i can program 100 webpages in angular but designing them sucks a lot
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[16:37:46] <star_prone> I have a button on which I have defined an ng-click; the ng-click calls a function and passes as an argument the relative path to where I'm trying to navigate
[16:37:47] <Elarcis> frappy: gotta get used to it, styling is also a front-end job :D
[16:37:50] <argshook> frappy: you can read upon it here: http://getbootstrap.com/css/#sass
[16:37:50] <Pyrrhus666> frappy: don´t do what Elarcis does and include a framework just to declare war at it. use it completely, or look for other solutions...
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[16:38:16] <argshook> frappy: also, if your form is relatively simple, i guess you cold just style it yourself :)
[16:38:16] <star_prone> in the function called, I pass the value received to $location.path()
[16:38:26] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I didn't chose Semantic-UI!
[16:38:40] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: If I had the choice it'have been homemade CSS!
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[16:39:01] <star_prone> the idea is that when I click the button it will redirect me to what I have defined on .otherwise in ng-route
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[16:39:15] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: but the previous dude 'didn't want to fiddle CSS' so they chose semantic-ui and added style attributes EVERYWHERE to counter the framework
[16:39:47] <star_prone> does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong?
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[16:39:54] <bd-> tbh i just use bootstrap or material cause i don't want to fuck about with css
[16:40:02] <bd-> who does, really
[16:40:05] <frappy> manually styling is cool but am having trouble in widening the writable text area in form,the borders are getting wider ,so i am looking for stylesheets
[16:40:15] <Elarcis> bd-: I like it
[16:40:19] <Elarcis> bd-: thanks
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[16:41:02] <icebox> star_prone: no code, no party... :) (don't paste the code here)
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[16:41:10] <star_prone> :)))
[16:41:10] <Elarcis> star_prone: first thing you're doing wrong is writing your question one sentence at a time, so I have to scroll through the whole window to read all the pieces :D
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[16:41:31] <frappy> am stuck with the kind of forms otherwise i will too prefer bootstrap,its easy
[16:42:00] <star_prone> Elarcis: :( sorry about that. I will paste some code. what is the preferred tool to paste code?
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[16:42:10] <Elarcis> star_prone: plunkr.
[16:42:20] <Elarcis> star_prone: *minimal working plunkr.
[16:42:26] <icebox> Elarcis: :P
[16:42:44] <Elarcis> icebox: I'm preemptive, like you
[16:43:04] <star_prone> minimal working plunkr...
[16:43:05] <star_prone> hmmm
[16:43:34] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: ah, so the predecessors had already started the war, you´re just continuing it ;)
[16:43:43] <icebox> star_prone: you should narrow the issue and provide a minimal working plunker reproducing the issue
[16:43:47] <Elarcis> !plunkr
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[16:44:02] <icebox> Elarcis: no bot, no mech... nothing
[16:44:04] <Elarcis> star_prone: http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS
[16:44:07] <Pyrrhus666> bits of broken bot everywhere
[16:44:30] <Elarcis> cry cry cry
[16:44:47] <icebox> we can write a bot and deploy it on "no" host (zeit.co)
[16:44:58] <icebox> *"now"
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[16:48:01] <star_prone> I won't be able to reproduce the issue in plunkr, but I have pasted some code here https://plnkr.co/edit/4lKK0XlewyCcF1argYWY?p=catalogue
[16:48:52] <Elarcis> icebox: isn't that thing expensive?
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[16:49:11] <icebox> Elarcis: no... it is free
[16:49:26] <icebox> Elarcis: twenty deploys at month
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[16:49:51] <Elarcis> icebox: oh
[16:49:54] <Elarcis> Oh.
[16:49:57] <Elarcis> OOOOOOOOH *-*
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[16:51:10] <icebox> Elarcis: https://zeit.co/now#pricing
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[16:51:55] <icebox> Elarcis: and with this we have no problems with password https://zeit.co/blog/environment-variables-secrets
[16:52:23] <Elarcis> icebox: can we also remove old deploys?
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[16:53:09] <icebox> Elarcis: yes
[16:53:12] <Elarcis> icebox: because I see the free plan has limited disk space
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[16:53:38] <icebox> Elarcis: no... a file cannot be greater than 1Mb
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[16:53:59] <Elarcis> icebox: '1GB FREE storage'
[16:54:03] <icebox> Elarcis: ok.. 1Gb cap... ok
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[16:54:12] <Elarcis> icebox: HEH
[16:54:20] <icebox> Elarcis: an app doesn't fill that space :)
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[16:54:32] <Elarcis> icebox: ah, it's 1GB per app?
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[16:54:52] <star_prone> any ideas?
[16:55:07] <icebox> Elarcis: I think it is per user
[16:55:21] <Elarcis> plunkr can manage routes, why won't you be able to reproduce the issue?
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[16:55:49] <Elarcis> icebox: node_module folder included or not? :'D
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[16:56:25] <icebox> Elarcis: good question... I think it is included... anyway 1Gb is a 1Gb :)
[16:56:46] <Elarcis> icebox: yeah, but it's not 1GB
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[17:00:44] <icebox> off... bye
[17:00:51] <Elarcis> bye
[17:00:54] <Elarcis> DIE HAPPILY
[17:00:58] <Elarcis> hm hm, sorry
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[17:07:31] <stormbytes> spent a week on ng2 "exploration". This thing is either a professional grade product (pro developers, degree in engineering, cs, etc) or the most poorly developed consumer technology I've every seen
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[17:08:17] <stormbytes> holy hell... just getting your head around installing/configuring this thing (nevermind actually *building* software) is akin to compiling Arch Linux on a Raspbery pi
[17:08:22] <stormbytes> i'm back to ng2
[17:08:24] <stormbytes> err
[17:08:26] <stormbytes> ng1
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[17:13:13] <Elarcis> stormbytes: aim for the professionnal product
[17:13:29] <stormbytes> Elarcis: hey :)
[17:13:44] <stormbytes> Just FTR, this is NOT a continuation of my rant from several days back
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[17:14:06] <Elarcis> stormbytes: well it really sounds like it
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[17:14:23] <stormbytes> I went through a tutorial, set up a basic ng2 sandbox, familiarized myself (to a degree) with module loading, etc
[17:14:46] <stormbytes> I know.. but that was really nonsensical
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[17:14:54] <stormbytes> I'm not saying ng2 is "useless'
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[17:15:29] <keepa> Should i use TypeScript on Angular 1`?
[17:15:36] <Elarcis> stormbytes: strange, I find it mostly straight forward, probably because angular 1.x is pretty 'barebone' and that most things you'd have to install later to have a decent app are downright required to make an ng2 one
[17:15:39] <stormbytes> i'm saying its far too complicated to be useful to most developers -- the learning curve requires a lot of investment, several orders greater than what was required for ng1
[17:15:48] <stormbytes> keepa: yes i think so
[17:15:53] <Elarcis> keepa: you definitely can, Typescript is a very nice tool
[17:16:10] <herberzt> using ng1 I am trying to make a dropdown selector that runs off of ng-options but has two default options. You can take a look at my SO post here. Any help is appreciated. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39394342/html-select-using-ng-options-with-multiple-default-options
[17:16:15] <Elarcis> stormbytes: I prefer to say it's the same thing than a space elevator
[17:16:22] <keepa> Are there good Tutorials/Examples for Angular 1 using TypeScript ?
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[17:16:47] <stormbytes> Elarcis: historically speaking, the more opinionated a given system is about how you *should* use it, the greater the level of built-in needless complexity
[17:16:56] <Elarcis> stormbytes: regular rockets are expensive but currently affordable, a space elevator will cost a HELL LOT of money right from the start, but'll make space travel incredibly cheap right away
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[17:17:29] <Elarcis> stormbytes: counter-argument: http://elm-lang.org/
[17:17:43] <stormbytes> Elarcis: space elevators aren't marketed to the mainstream consumer
[17:18:04] <Elarcis> stormbytes: nor are front-end frameworks :D
[17:18:10] <keepa> i am searching a angular 1 example app material design typescript
[17:18:28] <Elarcis> stormbytes: also I believe space elevator would be publicly accessible
[17:18:32] <stormbytes> Elarcis well, i mean "mainstream" in the context of web developers
[17:18:53] <stormbytes> Elarcis and NG2 is right there with you on that ride :)
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[17:19:24] <stormbytes> its about as 'accessible' as a space elevator
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[17:19:43] <bd-> and most people don't even need to go to space, just the country next door
[17:19:58] <stormbytes> with ng1 you dropped ONE FILE into your index.html and you were off to the races
[17:20:09] <Elarcis> stormbytes: that was my point, actually
[17:20:20] <stormbytes> you needed routing, you grabbed the file. needed other stuff, went back to the well.
[17:20:26] <stormbytes> it was a buffet.
[17:20:37] <Elarcis> stormbytes: except you didn't get a production ready app like that
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[17:21:12] <Elarcis> stormbytes: well unless you had a shitton of external tool to not have dozens of files to download and such
[17:21:27] <stormbytes> here, you need to understand a ridiculously complicated modules library and somehow "know" what piece gets imported from what file, its downright absurd... if you're trying to appeal to the same consumer audience
[17:21:29] <herberzt> anybody willing to take a look at this and give me some advice/guidance? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39394342/html-select-using-ng-options-with-multiple-default-options
[17:21:36] <Elarcis> stormbytes: I think you're missing the point that NG2 is not a replacement for NG1
[17:21:48] <stormbytes> i would make a bet that ng2 never gets off the ground
[17:22:04] <Elarcis> stormbytes: we'll see that in a few years
[17:22:07] <bd-> yeah, i don't think ng2 will ever be as popular as ng1
[17:22:21] <bd-> it will launch get a bit of traction then something easier will come along and it will be the fad of the day
[17:22:26] <Elarcis> I think you're still missing an important point here
[17:22:45] <stormbytes> Elarcis I think you just made the point exceedingly well. NG2 is NOT ng + "2". It coopts a name it has nothing to do with. NG1 is NG-ONLY.
[17:23:30] <Elarcis> stormbytes: well except it's the same team, the same principles, the same historical features, just made more modern and paradoxically simpler to code
[17:24:15] <stormbytes> the lifecycle of technology is very simple nowadays: You develop your platform, launch and wait for adoption. If you don't generate interest ("traction") with your "grand opening" momentum, you'll be very hard pressed to succeed. The hype will fizzle out. Other competing products will emerge, etc
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[17:24:36] <stormbytes> Elarcis the same can be said of the Ford Focus and the Ford Mustang GT
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[17:24:56] <bd-> ng2 is more academic but concequently, less pragmatic
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[17:25:06] <stormbytes> bd- well put
[17:25:26] <stormbytes> its *academically correct*, and Elarcis makes this point exceedingly well
[17:25:28] <Elarcis> stormbytes: this is not exact. 'launch and wait for adoption' is a sure way to fail. Ng2 has been receiving feedback for quite a while and based itself on ng1's experience to provide something sturdier
[17:25:57] <Elarcis> stormbytes: I do not know the numbers, but it's not like NG2 didn't already have a growing following and lots of positive reviews
[17:26:07] <Elarcis> stormbytes: except for the ones that prefer the simplicity of ng1
[17:26:09] <stormbytes> Elarcis ng2 borrows some concepts from ng1, thats hardly being 'based' on it.
[17:26:28] <stormbytes> Elarcis so does Arch Linux on the Raspberry PI
[17:26:51] <Elarcis> stormbytes: seems like an obsessing idea with you :D
[17:27:12] <stormbytes> its just a good analogy, i find
[17:27:26] <stormbytes> Arch is a terrific distribution. Everything is so ridiculously well through out :)
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[17:27:49] <stormbytes> mass adoption (like... Debian) ? non-existent.
[17:28:11] <Elarcis> Arch is EXACTLY angular2. it's 'install it yourself, if you have a problem fix it yourself, we don't sacrifice cleanliness for the sake of simplicity'
[17:28:28] <stormbytes> Elarcis my point exact :)
[17:28:30] <bd-> > if you have a problem fix it yourself
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[17:28:34] <bd-> that couldn't be more true given the shitty errors
[17:28:36] <Elarcis> I'd love to continue debatting pointlessly, but I have a screen to buy, using the money I've been given to say positive things about Angular 2
[17:28:40] <stormbytes> but they don't call Arch "Windows-11"
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[17:28:50] <stormbytes> lol
[17:28:53] <stormbytes> screen?
[17:28:53] <Elarcis> stormbytes: this, is a stupid analogy though
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[17:29:06] <Elarcis> stormbytes: because angular 1 isn't React
[17:29:08] <stormbytes> Elarcis that was :) i conced
[17:29:11] <stormbytes> concede
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[17:29:28] <stormbytes> React is lame, but not nearly as complicated !!
[17:30:35] <bd-> once you add redux and reflux and whatever other dozen libraries people say you need for react it becomes pretty complicated
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[17:31:03] <stormbytes> bd- point is, that's *once* you add those libs, but you don't have to right out of the gate
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[17:31:25] <stormbytes> the ng2 module system makes it so crazy complicated to setup it defeats its own purpose
[17:31:58] <stormbytes> the level of boilerplate knowledge you need as a developer is like that rocket scientist kid that always talked about shit no one else understood
[17:32:30] <stormbytes> i find it too high level "academic" for most developers
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[17:37:32] <j_herb> hey folks
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[17:38:24] <j_herb> is it possible to use ng-options in a select while specifying multiple option tags within the select?
[17:38:34] <j_herb> I am trying to do this now with not much luck
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[18:54:13] <fernandozueet> I would like to know if you like to invez to generate only 1 file in the build to generate multiple files, for I am not developing a single page but several php pages. Thank you
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[18:56:53] <fernandozueet> I would like to know if you like to invez to generate only 1 file in the build to generate multiple files, for I am not developing a single page but several php pages. Thank you
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[19:01:06] <chinkara> if we set border:none; then how to increase or decrease the height of form?
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[19:32:22] <saltycat1ish> Does anyone know of good resources on how to unit test angular with requirejs?
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[20:53:55] <joshin4colours> hi everyone
[20:54:16] <joshin4colours> I have a question about the Protractor framework. Is this a good place to ask?
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[20:56:14] <ngbot> [angular.js] Narretz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vi8C5
[20:56:14] <ngbot> angular.js/master 4941e04 Martin Staffa: docs($compile): link to sections from properties in example
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[20:56:44] <ngbot> [angular.js] Narretz pushed 3 new commits to v1.5.x: https://git.io/vi8CA
[20:56:44] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.5.x 92d4dd2 Martin Staffa: docs($compile): link to sections from properties in examples
[20:56:44] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.5.x 963ce68 sethbattin: docs($resourceProvider): include '$' in di in example...
[20:56:44] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.5.x 027486f Austin O'Neil: docs(guide/component): clarify when to use directives instead of components...
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[21:02:43] <SaltyCatFish> Has anyone come across the karma error "Delaying execution, these browsers are not ready"
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[21:27:10] <ngbot> angular.js/master 0b22173 Lucas Galfaso: feat(ngSwitch): allow multiple case matches via optional attribute ngSwitchWhenSeparator...
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[21:37:03] <jose_leeto> someone knows how can I display the placeholder instead the current date in md-datepicker?
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[22:03:58] <angijs> Hello, I would like to display names loaded from a json file using ng-repeat. Could anybody help me please editing my plunkr? https://plnkr.co/edit/HPQ2fvS0WUcvMXrTojhy?p=preview
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[22:11:02] <angijs> Anybody, please?
[22:11:10] <SaltyCatFish> karma is a piece of shit
[22:11:14] <SaltyCatFish> that is all
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[22:13:11] <da_wunder> angijs: https://plnkr.co/edit/SkPhk9vILwcy89ckhhq7?p=preview
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