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[00:35:23] <imightbestupid12> What word begins with N and ends with R that you never, ever want to call a black person?
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<stwalcher> Hey, I have a quick question about some style property binding on a template for Angular. I have an expression bound to [style.background-image] that I'm piping into a "safe" pipe to sanitize the image URL. For some reason, I'm getting this error: "url(SafeValue must use [property]=binding: url('/img/release_image.php?id=33511'); (see http://g.co/ng/security#xss))" and the value doesn't show when inspecti
[00:41:25] <stwalcher> ng the template. Anyone have an idea why I'm getting this?
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[00:53:03] <heartburn> stwalcher: post a plunker
[00:53:25] <stwalcher> I'll get one together and post it. Thank you.
[00:54:10] <stwalcher> Tried to do an upgrade to rc.6 to see if that would fix the problem and now I'm breaking down a SystemJS error.
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[01:18:25] <rlf> hello, is angular 2 a good choice for a creating a new application right now? or should i start it on 1 and port it later on?
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[01:19:54] <heartburn> *triggered*
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[01:54:31] <ZachLanich> Can someone in here help me with "locking/disabling" UI elements when a "background job" of a certain type is in progress in Angular2?
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[01:57:39] <zomg> ZachLanich: you just use some flag to determine whether they should be locked or not. Set it when the job starts, unset when done
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[01:58:42] <ZachLanich> zomg I definitely get, I guess I'm trying to figure out the best way to keep things decoupled and figure out "where" to put the identifiers & logic that determines what ui elements should be disabled for what "types" of jobs. Thoughts?
[01:58:48] <ZachLanich> get that*
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[02:00:10] <zomg> it kind of depends on how you want to set it up
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[02:00:23] <ZachLanich> I'm assuming I'll have a Model/Class & Service for "Jobs" that will get requested from the other Services. ie. WebsiteService.startBackup() would call JobService.startJob or something.
[02:00:25] <zomg> in a simple case, for example if you have a button which starts the job, you could probably just disable the button there and then
[02:00:36] <zomg> and use a promise or something from the job to determine when to put it back
[02:00:53] <ZachLanich> zomg There are dozens of UI controls that could start jobs, jobs being anything that need to be queued
[02:01:04] <zomg> okay, in that case it might be best to use some kind of an event mechanism
[02:01:10] <ZachLanich> And I'm also using Websockets and Observables for communication, jsuk
[02:01:23] <ZachLanich> Here's my workflow:
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[02:01:44] <zomg> I'm not super familiar with angular2 but you can usually solve it by using events or observables or something
[02:01:59] <zomg> Ie. in your service which performs the jobs you have a way to subscribe to be notified about jobs starting and ending
[02:02:10] <zomg> and in your code where you care about these events, you just subscribe to the relevant ones
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[02:03:15] <zomg> yeah sounds like you might already have the necessary bits in place :)
[02:03:25] <ZachLanich> zomg Ok, so you think the separation is good enough if say a BackupComponent with a "Start Backup" button could inject the JobsService and subscribe to Start & Complete events?
[02:03:26] <zomg> since you have those events going around, so you could probably just use those to determine whether to disable the ui
[02:03:45] <zomg> yes, that sounds reasonable to me
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[02:04:04] <zomg> you can always make it more fine grained if you want - for example, for your backup button, you could have a BackupService instead of a JobsService
[02:04:04] <ZachLanich> What I like to always double check with a second set of eyes is if I'm allowing certain parts of my apps to "know too much" about other parts of the app.
[02:04:34] <zomg> while the backup service can delegate the work to the jobs service, you can have it send out more fine grained events so that you can only disable the parts that care about the backup jobs
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[02:04:55] <ZachLanich> In my case (for now), the SitesService will have a .startBackup() method on it - Sites being a website that's hosted on our platform, which this UI is for
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[02:05:35] <zomg> In my experience unit tests can be helpful in finding potential holes in your designs :)
[02:05:37] <ZachLanich> I have thought about splitting up the services a bit more, but really, all the controls are directly related to/underneath the scope of a "Site", so idk yet...
[02:05:49] <zomg> If it's hard to write a unit test for some piece of code, it can often be a sign that it's too heavily coupled with something else
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[02:06:53] <ZachLanich> zomg Yeaaa. Unfortunately I haven't stepped into the world of Unit Testing "yet", but I know it's coming big time with this project. I've done a lot of websites in my day using CMSs, so Unit Testing wasn't much of a thing until I started building more interactive apps with more modular functionality
[02:07:23] <zomg> Yeah, it definitely becomes a lot more useful in larger scale and longer running projects
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<zomg> If you're interested, I've got a bunch of testing related stuff I've written in my blog here :) http://codeutopia.net/
[02:08:04] <ZachLanich> Hmm. This really gets me thinking about where to put the subscriptions for the websockets. I'm using Laravel + Laravel Echo.
[02:08:25] <zomg> How are you setting up the sockets now?
[02:08:46] <ZachLanich> Laravel Echo.
[02:08:52] <ZachLanich> + Pusher for now
[02:09:16] <zomg> ok I have no idea how that works =)
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[02:09:31] <ZachLanich> All you really need to know is this:
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[02:11:00] <ZachLanich> I can put those anywhere in the Angular app.
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[02:12:48] <zomg> Ah
[02:13:09] <zomg> I think it would probably make sense to have those centralized in a service or several services
[02:13:30] <ZachLanich> Yea
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[02:16:48] <stormbytes> evening
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[02:28:25] <ZachLanich> evening
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[03:59:23] <stormbytes> anyone around?
[03:59:41] <stormbytes> /join #javascript
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[04:20:56] <LurkAshFlake> Hi if I follow the quickstart install will it install angularjs globaly? My goal is to set up respond CMS that use angular2 as a dependency.
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[04:30:37] <LurkAshFlake> I get UNMET PEER DEPENDENCY @angular/core at 2 dot 0.0-rc.6 when I execute npm install within my respondcms directory
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[05:13:45] <tanjing> is this a robot?
[05:14:29] <tanjing> anyone here?
[05:14:40] <LurkAshFlake> tanjing: I am not anyone
[05:14:46] <LurkAshFlake> Beep beep boop what is life
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[05:16:37] <tanjing> who are u,lurkAshFlake?
[05:17:04] <LurkAshFlake> tanjing: Beep
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[05:17:25] <LurkAshFlake> No realy though what did you mean by "is this a robot"?
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[05:19:07] <tanjing> are you a really man like me,not an intelligent robot
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[05:20:23] * LurkAshFlake processing question
[05:20:39] <LurkAshFlake> tanjing: Define me; Define robot;
[05:21:13] <tanjing> it's my first time to come here
[05:21:19] <LurkAshFlake> on irc?
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[05:22:55] <tanjing> internet relay chat?yes,like this
[05:23:00] <LurkAshFlake> Yah
[05:23:23] <LurkAshFlake> What are you looking for?
[05:24:01] <LurkAshFlake> are you a chinese programmer?
[05:24:18] <tanjing> yes
[05:24:29] <LurkAshFlake> ./j #programming
[05:24:32] <LurkAshFlake> you'll like it there
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[05:24:43] <LurkAshFlake> type it without the dot
[05:24:54] <tanjing> how did you know that?
[05:25:02] <LurkAshFlake> your ip adresse
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[05:25:28] <LurkAshFlake> you are at less then 200km from Guangzhou I believe :)
[05:25:37] <LurkAshFlake> which irc client you use?
[05:26:03] <tanjing> is here safe?
[05:26:06] <tanjing> chrome
[05:26:32] <LurkAshFlake> btw on irc we usualy have to respect the topic of the channel but I've saw no one talk in here so until someone tell us to be quiet we can chat
[05:26:40] <LurkAshFlake> you use windows?
[05:27:25] <tanjing> yeah
[05:28:15] <LurkAshFlake> I believe irssi work on windows, it's a CLI irc client.
[05:28:38] <LurkAshFlake> If you are concern about safety, you should use it and I am one of those who like to chat so msg me anytime!
[05:29:11] <LurkAshFlake> Respect the authority of others, do not ask "is anyone here" or "can I ask a question"
[05:29:39] <LurkAshFlake> again usualy we aren't supose to spam a channel with chit-chat
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[05:37:32] <heartburn> yea man wtf
[05:38:00] <LurkAshFlake> lol sorry
[05:38:05] <LurkAshFlake> welcoming him
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[06:04:02] <tanjing> LurkAshFlake
[06:04:08] <tanjing> call LurkAshFlake
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[06:04:57] <tanjing> I am so happy that I can message you at anytime
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[06:14:00] <tanjing> in consideration of respecting others,don't spam a channel with chit-chat in here,could I get your usually contact way,LurkAshFlake?
[06:14:38] <tanjing> which irc client you use usually?
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[06:19:46] <heartburn> tanjing: /msg memoserv help
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[06:23:50] <tref> Anyone used Auth0
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<ki> hello Angular Js developers we are looking for your expert opinion about the framework can you please contribute to our study by filling the survey we prepared we have hosted our questionnaire at SurveyMonkey.com, the world's leading provider of web-based survey solutions. As a result, you do not need to get suspicious about the link we provide for the survey, which is: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Y8N7N26 We look forward to your answers
[07:33:25] <ki> thank you very much in advance
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[08:14:32] <Adam_> Hello
[08:14:34] <Adam_> how are u?
[08:14:50] <Adam_> what is the difference between Component and Directive ?
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[08:24:32] <arlekin> hey guys
[08:25:08] <arlekin> there is a big angular conference here in Warsaw, Poland at 21-22 November
[08:25:36] <arlekin> i'd like to invite you there on behalf of polish angularjs community
[08:26:21] <arlekin> first round of tickets (for the second, conferentional, day) is about 85 eur
[08:26:50] <arlekin> i'll be there so if anyone would decide to go, lemme know, it would be awesome to meet IRL
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[08:34:25] <jalnt> Is Poland a real country?
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[08:37:41] <JeyJH> Hey everyone
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[08:38:39] <arlekin> jalnt: we are still not quite sure
[08:38:58] <arlekin> seems interesting
[08:39:30] <Vill> hi guys
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[08:48:10] <JeyJH> could someone help me
[08:48:21] <JeyJH> i'm using ui-bootstrap to create a dropdown
[08:48:30] <JeyJH> and i want to disable a field in a certain case
[08:48:47] <JeyJH> here's a plunker of a similar case of what i've got
[08:49:15] <JeyJH> in my code the item in the dropdown are checkbox used to filter
[08:49:44] <JeyJH> and if there's no possible result i want to disable the filter
[08:49:59] <JeyJH> (i already got the number of result return by the filter)
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[08:55:47] <icebox> is it not enough modifying the items array contained in the dropdown on that condition?
[08:55:54] <icebox> JeyJH: ^
[08:56:33] <Vill> can anyone tell me how to call function of 1 module into another module using third module
[08:56:59] <JeyJH> icebox : i want to see the item but i could not click it
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[08:57:31] <icebox> JeyJH: sorry I don't understand
[08:57:42] <icebox> Vill: ng1 or ng2?
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[08:57:53] <JeyJH> did you see my plunker? there is 3 items in imagine those are filter
[08:58:02] <JeyJH> if the filter cannot show any result
[08:58:15] <Vill> ng2
[08:58:15] <JeyJH> i would like to disable the item
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[08:58:44] <icebox> JeyJH: I see
[08:59:02] <JeyJH> sorry for my bad english x:
[09:01:14] <JeyJH> cant help you will i'm new to angular x)
[09:01:25] <JeyJH> but i realy would like to know the answer too
[09:01:26] <icebox> Vill: import the module, import the provider, call the method
[09:01:56] <JeyJH> you import it like ui-bootstrap or smt like that?
[09:02:11] <Vill> thanks icebox but the modules are in the 3 different js files
[09:02:23] <icebox> Vill: sure... what is the problem? :)
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[09:04:24] <JeyJH> thanks !
[09:04:35] <Vill> my problem is i have 2 separate views in the first view i have a input box and 'add' button when i click 'add' button the data get stored in db, in 2nd view i have a table which displays all massages
[09:04:50] <icebox> Vill: I see
[09:06:18] <Vill> my issue is i can see the list when i refresh the page. when i click add i want to call getmessage function of 2nd module which set the list of table for display
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[09:07:10] <icebox> Vill: ok
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[09:08:02] <icebox> Vill: but I don't understand why you cannot call getmessage
[09:08:28] <Vill> so i have tried $controller where i injected 2nd module in 1st and trying to set the data of 2nd module
[09:08:44] <JeyJH> uhm ok the thing u gave me is working on my plunker but not on my real code -_-
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[09:08:53] <icebox> Vill: $controller?
[09:09:04] <icebox> JeyJH: cool!
[09:09:10] <Vill> yep
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[09:09:31] <icebox> Vill: better you provide a minimal working plunker reproducing your request
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[09:10:10] <JeyJH> could i change the class of an item with the controller?
[09:10:29] <icebox> JeyJH: angular is data oriented
[09:10:41] <icebox> JeyJH: you change the flag
[09:11:06] <Vill> k
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[09:11:45] <JeyJH> aww ok
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[09:11:51] <JeyJH> i see why i cant disable item
[09:11:56] <JeyJH> my list item is a checkbox
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[09:13:49] <icebox> JeyJH: the concept is the same
[09:14:21] <JeyJH> the class="disabled" is not working with my checkbox
[09:14:30] <icebox> JeyJH: you need to disable that element based on a condition via ng-class
[09:14:32] <JeyJH> but it works with a simple item
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[09:14:54] <icebox> JeyJH: eventually your question is how to disable a checkbox :)
[09:15:12] <icebox> JeyJH: (and it is not an angular question) :)
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[09:15:38] <JeyJH> maybe yeah x) but i thought as it was part of my dropdown if i disabled the item the checkbox in would be disabled too
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[09:16:40] <JeyJH> ok thanks i got it working :D
[09:16:51] <icebox> JeyJH: nice!
[09:17:12] <JeyJH> I thought my problem was different. Thanks for help ! :)
[09:17:18] <icebox> JeyJH: you are welcome
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[09:22:10] <icebox> Vill: but that is ng1, not ng2 as you said :)
[09:22:27] <Vill> sorry? X(
[09:22:45] <Vill> but what could be the soln
[09:22:46] <Vill> ?
[09:23:14] <icebox> Vill: [08:57] <icebox> Vill: ng1 or ng2? [08:58] <Vill> ng2
[09:23:27] <icebox> iamayam: anyway...
[09:23:32] <Vill> sorry for that
[09:23:33] <icebox> Vill: anyway...
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[09:24:57] <icebox> Vill: if I understand correctly you need to call a method of a service contained in another module?
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[09:26:24] <Vill> a actually i want to call method of 'list' -> getNotes() from 'edit' module which can set $scope.notes of 'list' module
[09:26:47] <Vill> so it does not matter if its through service or any other thing
[09:26:54] <icebox> Vill: ok
[09:27:58] <icebox> Vill: firstly to share data between components (controllers, directives, etc.) use services...
[09:28:10] <Vill> k
[09:28:35] <icebox> Vill: then add a method to that service like "setNotes"
[09:28:40] <Vill> k
[09:28:43] <eggzz> Hi! I'm trying to access a controller defined in a utility module from the html template, and it's not working. Is it impossible to use controllers from other modules, unless encapsulating them in a component first?
[09:28:54] <icebox> Vill: but be awware not to break the reference
[09:28:58] <icebox> Vill: *aware
[09:29:00] <eggzz> Googling isn't taking me anywhere :|
[09:29:09] <Vill> means?
[09:29:27] <icebox> Vill: $scope.notes = Response.data; // it breaks the reference
[09:29:38] <Vill> k
[09:30:00] <icebox> Vill: when you update an object (or array) in the scope, you need to be awre not to overwrite the old reference
[09:30:14] <Vill> k
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[09:33:49] <Vill> k you are saying use angular.extend(service.data4, { value: "Goodbye" }); inside service?
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[09:38:57] <Preuk> how would you setup AoT build chain for a non-angular CLI project?
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[09:39:48] <Preuk> for now i call ngc to output to packaging dir, send external web ressources, node_modules and call closure on non-ng2 js files
[09:40:25] <Preuk> any better way to do things? (non, i'm not a real frontend dev)
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[09:41:40] <icebox> Vill: better :)
[09:41:52] <Vill> k
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[09:42:12] <Vill> thanks for your help icebox :)
[09:42:20] <icebox> Vill: you are welcome
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[09:55:19] <arlekin> heartburn: almost a chuckle, but true regardless
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[09:56:25] <Pyrrhus666> looks like jeroom´s work :)
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[10:00:32] <arlekin> i mst here today ?
[10:00:51] <arlekin> mst: dude ?
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[10:09:38] <angularjs> hi
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[10:35:47] <angularjs> hi
[10:35:51] <angularjs> hi
[10:36:14] <uru> angularjs: Please clearly state the nature of your emergency
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[10:37:20] <Pyrrhus666> haha :)
[10:37:41] <arlekin> uru: Elarcis is still better at that than you
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[10:38:09] <arlekin> with his call-center reminding texts addressed to guys with indian nicknames
[10:38:30] <uru> arlekin: lol, I've not seen that
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[10:41:22] <arlekin> uru: the best thing is he didn't realize what he did till i pointed it out to him
[10:41:29] <uru> haha
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[10:49:16] <L0u1s> hey guys, anyway I can use the not operator inside a ng-model? Like so: <input type="checkbox" ng-model="!foo.bar">
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[10:49:56] <Pyrrhus666> L0u1s: seeing as you defining a binding, that would be very unlikely ?
[10:50:44] <ngWalrus> wouldn't it make more sense to either rename the variable or not it when doing the comparison
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[10:52:51] <ngWalrus> it appears it isn't possible
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[10:53:36] <stephen> Hello again all
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[10:53:59] <arlekin> i'd like to repeat my shoutout about big angular conference in Poland
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[10:55:45] <stephen> ngWalrus, demonstrating model binds to expressions vs variables?
[10:56:05] <stephen> Because that's a great one for it.
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[11:02:48] <Elarcis> Hi!
[11:02:56] <ngWalrus> also why doesn't js come out of the box with head, tail, init and last functions
[11:03:10] <ngWalrus> seems like a weird omission
[11:03:48] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
[11:04:13] <Elarcis> does anyone have deeper doc about 1.x components outputs? like why that syntax, or if it's possible to define parameters of the callback in the parent template, and override them in the component calling the callback?
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[11:05:24] <icebox> Elarcis: you may give a look at component code polyfill by Todd Motto
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[11:06:14] <Elarcis> icebox: thanks
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[11:07:56] <Elarcis> it seems that the behavior is defined by directives though, since component is just a subset of them
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[11:09:24] <icebox> Elarcis: do you mean "hijacked.directive"?
[11:10:26] <Elarcis> icebox: I suppose so
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[11:10:52] <icebox> Elarcis: and why does that change the game for your use case?
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[11:11:58] <Elarcis> icebox: well... I'm working on an improved slider component for our app
[11:12:28] <Elarcis> icebox: basically a wrapper around angularjs-slider with helper code to integrate it with our config
[11:12:38] <icebox> Elarcis: I see
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[11:13:56] <Elarcis> icebox: was wondering if it's possible to give the component a on-slide="specificCallback(localObject, value)" where 'value' is set by the slider component, and localObject is set in the scope of the parent controller (localObject is a ng-repeat instance, thus I can't just access it from specificCallback)
[11:14:02] <icebox> Elarcis: so the question is how to override a behaviour component, generally speaking?
[11:14:25] <icebox> Elarcis: *...of a component
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[11:14:43] <icebox> Elarcis: understood
[11:15:10] <Elarcis> icebox: I mean, I could send localObject as an input of the component and just return it in the callback
[11:15:20] <Elarcis> but that's probably not what I want
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[11:16:04] <icebox> Elarcis: if the component doesn't allow callback entry points (on-...) or events, I am afraid it is not possible
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[11:17:09] <icebox> Elarcis: well... you may get the instance of the component and you may tweak it, maybe... but it would be an hack, I suppose
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[11:17:30] <Elarcis> icebox: what? no
[11:17:49] <Elarcis> icebox: the component /has/ an on-slide binding, I coded it
[11:17:55] <icebox> Elarcis: ok
[11:18:16] <Elarcis> icebox: I just call it from the component like $ctrl.onSlide({value: newValue})
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[11:18:25] <icebox> Elarcis: ok
[11:19:15] <Elarcis> icebox: but localObject isn't much of the concern of the slider component, yet it is needed in the callback
[11:19:56] <icebox> Elarcis: you may add something like "locals"
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[11:20:31] <Elarcis> icebox: what do you mean?
[11:20:31] <Elarcis> ah
[11:20:33] <Elarcis> let's see
[11:22:06] <Elarcis> so it fetches members of the parent scope and injects them in the child controller?
[11:22:20] <Elarcis> interesting
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[11:23:32] <Elarcis> not really what I wanted to do, but interesting nonetheless
[11:23:36] <Elarcis> I'll let you know
[11:23:51] <icebox> Elarcis: just an idea
[11:25:02] <senayar> hey
[11:25:05] <icebox> hey
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[11:29:25] <arlekin> hey i need volunteers to give me opinion on my article before i publish it, article is about UI/UX best practices vs real world, and i'd like to know if its written okay and if the content is worth reading (ie it adds something to the world)
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[11:33:36] <icebox> arlekin: nice point: know your users, not ux best practices
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[11:34:10] <Pyrrhus666> arlekin: nitpick : Well, i am shocked <-- capital I
[11:34:13] <senayar> change "i" for "I" arlekin :p
[11:34:30] <senayar> i’am shocked
[11:34:46] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: thanks, fixed
[11:35:00] <Pyrrhus666> there are more : when i used Material
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[11:35:33] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: so, all i's should be capital ? (there are different rules for that than in my mother tongue)
[11:35:35] <Pyrrhus666> I literally seen -> I´ve literally seen
[11:35:50] <Pyrrhus666> yes, I denoting self is always I
[11:35:55] <arlekin> I know I certainly do. (both capital? )
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[11:36:01] <Pyrrhus666> yup
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[11:36:14] <arlekin> what about all the you's and we's ?
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[11:36:35] <Pyrrhus666> only capitalize at start of sentence. ¨I¨ is the exception.
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[11:37:26] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: ok, fixed all i guess
[11:37:36] <arlekin> *I guess
[11:37:37] <arlekin> ;P
[11:38:11] <arlekin> so guys, is it worth publishing ? or maybe all that was said already and everyone knows it ?
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[11:39:21] <icebox> arlekin: +1
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[11:40:04] <Pyrrhus666> I´am shocked -> superfluous ´
[11:40:13] <senayar> yes it's worth it reading it for a starter developer :p
[11:40:35] <arlekin> thanks, guys, and sorry for offtop
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[11:40:44] <senayar> who spend 300 hours fixing pixel margin than no body care
[11:40:47] <Pyrrhus666> arlekin: it´s something everybody having to do with UIs should know, so yes
[11:40:50] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: im gonna hire you as my editor :P
[11:41:04] <arlekin> senayar: iknowrite
[11:41:17] <Pyrrhus666> arlekin: you´re welcome ;)
[11:42:14] <Pyrrhus666> final nitpick : your ending sentence is missing a .
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[11:43:00] <arlekin> btw, i feel entitled to sometimes use community here for not-really-angularjs advice due to my work helping people here (not that i wouldn't otherwise but still) and im not sure if thats fair, thoughts ?
[11:43:19] <icebox> arlekin: fair
[11:43:23] <Pyrrhus666> arlekin: no problem here.
[11:43:27] <arlekin> Pyrrhus666: fixed ;) thanks
[11:43:40] <arlekin> icebox: im glad, no guilt not more
[11:43:43] <arlekin> *no
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[11:46:38] <JeyJH> Can someone give me some advice on Angular basics
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[11:47:21] <arlekin> JeyJH: angular is awesome (what do you want to know)
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[11:47:34] <JeyJH> I already got a little project
[11:47:46] <JeyJH> but i'm thinking that i'm doing it in the wrong way
[11:47:50] <JeyJH> i got an object
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[11:47:56] <JeyJH> and multiple controller want to acces it
[11:48:07] <JeyJH> should i put this object in the root scope
[11:48:30] <uru> JeyJH: You need a service
[11:48:38] <JeyJH> yeah that what i was thinking
[11:48:43] <JeyJH> so service is to access data
[11:48:49] <JeyJH> factory to modify it?
[11:48:53] <JeyJH> am I right?
[11:49:17] <arlekin> !tiarx
[11:49:24] <arlekin> nope, bot still dead
[11:49:45] <arlekin> to quote Fox: 'bot is a piece of shit'
[11:49:50] <arlekin> his words not mine
[11:49:53] <JeyJH> Thanks again Icebox :p
[11:50:06] <Elarcis> JeyJH: no, factories are just more advanced services, but nowaday they're pretty much not needed anymore
[11:50:12] <JeyJH> I need to rework the whole project :p
[11:50:13] <Elarcis> JeyJH: (in a nutshell)
[11:50:31] <JeyJH> so what do you use instead of factory?
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[11:50:38] <Elarcis> JeyJH: services
[11:50:38] <JeyJH> only service?
[11:50:42] <JeyJH> okok
[11:50:51] <Elarcis> Ook!
[11:51:11] <arlekin> Elarcis: Librarian ?
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[11:51:47] <Elarcis> some people here did their homework
[11:52:10] <Pyrrhus666> just give him a banana
[11:52:20] <icebox> bananaaaaaa
[11:52:29] <JeyJH> if you are talking about me
[11:52:29] <ngWalrus> :|
[11:52:31] <JeyJH> im not lol
[11:52:41] <JeyJH> working atm
[11:53:43] <arlekin> Elarcis: you are insulting me with that condescending 'homework' remark
[11:53:48] <arlekin> Elarcis: “Ah you think discworldness is your ally? You merely adopted the discworld. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!”
[11:53:57] <JeyJH> Thanks icebox
[11:54:05] <arlekin> Elarcis: in yo face
[11:54:30] <Elarcis> wow, way to go triggerlord
[11:54:35] <Preuk> arlekin: forgot your dried frog pills, right?
[11:54:53] <arlekin> Preuk: its all because of pickles
[11:54:57] <arlekin> they are watching me...
[11:55:07] * arlekin looks around paranoidally
[11:55:40] <Elarcis> you're reminding me that it's ben an awful lot of time since I've read a discworld book D:
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[11:55:52] <arlekin> Elarcis: haaa! traitor!
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[11:56:59] <Preuk> Elarcis: currently enjoying "making money", this serie has gone so far as to be mostly made from subtle self-reference
[11:57:35] <JeyJH> i'm not using classes atm
[11:57:51] <Elarcis> JeyJH: yes, but you can easily switch to them later
[11:58:13] <JeyJH> so i should definitly go for the service?
[11:59:16] <Elarcis> JeyJH: depends on your need. mostly yes
[12:00:13] <JeyJH> i only need to acces an array of object in different controller and share function between the controller
[12:00:27] <JeyJH> like adding refreshing display etc
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[12:05:20] <bala> HELP
[12:05:43] <arlekin> quick! who here knows how to perform CPR ?
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[12:05:55] <arlekin> weird...
[12:06:08] <arlekin> wierder and wierded
[12:06:11] <arlekin> *wierder
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[12:30:19] <Pyrrhus666> wireder ?
[12:30:40] <arlekin> derp
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[12:32:47] <Pyrrhus666> ermahgerd !
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[12:48:25] <njmo> hi can someone help me with integrating spring with angular2 typescript?
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[12:54:26] <Elarcis> njmo: what's spring?
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[12:54:56] <Elarcis> njmo: the java thing?
[12:55:03] <icebox> arlekin: me
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[12:56:09] <njmo> ye
[12:56:26] <njmo> Elarcis, but the problem isnt in spring
[12:56:28] <GreenJello> icebox, you're too late, they're already dead
[12:56:40] <icebox> GreenJello: I suppose
[12:56:45] <njmo> when i load page tomcat take me to my index.html file
[12:57:07] <njmo> and is there any way to compile my typescript angular app without nodejs
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[12:59:26] <GreenJello> njmo, you'll find that most web dev tooling runs on node, so don't try to avoid it
[12:59:30] <icebox> njmo: yes... you may give a look to live in example you find in docs
[12:59:55] <icebox> njmo: yes... you may give a look at live example you can find in docs
[13:00:07] <icebox> njmo: but it is not recommended
[13:00:30] <heartburn> is there any datepicker component that doesn't require fucking jquery/bootstrap/anything?
[13:00:30] <njmo> so should i have 2 different apps
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[13:00:43] <heartburn> just a datepicker, the calendar thing, with nothing else?
[13:00:44] <njmo> rest on backend with tomcat and front running on nodejs?
[13:00:52] <njmo> icebox,
[13:01:09] <arlekin> icebox: ??
[13:01:37] <icebox> njmo: two apps? two tiers... you should follow best practices for each tier
[13:01:48] <icebox> arlekin: about CPR
[13:01:58] <icebox> arlekin: a bit late, I know
[13:01:59] <njmo> by two apps i mean 2 http servers
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[13:02:25] <icebox> njmo: usually no... but that depends on your architecture
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[13:02:56] <icebox> njmo: I think you are confusing Node.js as tool for building frontend app.. and Node.js as framework to provide a backend layer
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[13:04:27] <njmo> on every tutorial in angular they are using node js to run angular
[13:04:41] <njmo> i thought i can run in my browser independly
[13:05:00] <zomg> njmo: all you need node for is to just compile typescript. Yes, you can definitely run angular independently after that has been done
[13:05:27] <zomg> (most modern JS tools are based on node, so you just need those to run them, similar to how you use the jvm to run your java based tooling)
[13:05:32] <njmo> i use tsc script on maven run
[13:05:37] <njmo> so it is compiled
[13:05:40] <icebox> njmo: yes... they use Node.js with those two means (tool and framework), but they are indipendent
[13:06:15] <njmo> can i give you link to github?
[13:06:27] <njmo> for u to look a it?
[13:06:56] <njmo> i can compile typescript when my spring app runs
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[13:10:23] <njmo> ah i find the problem
[13:10:34] <njmo> all works fine but there wrong path
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[13:10:47] <njmo> in index.html when including angular stuff
[13:10:52] <njmo> thanks for your time
[13:10:55] <njmo> i appreciate it
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[13:16:29] <Elarcis> oh god, didn't understand why I had infinite callstacks
[13:16:53] <Elarcis> bad luck combination of 'losing the context' and 'name conflicts'
[13:17:17] <Elarcis> function ended up calling the function that called it
[13:17:25] <Elarcis> HERP DERP
[13:18:45] <Pyrrhus666> ERMAHGERD !
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[13:29:03] <arlekin> gotta go guys, cya
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[13:29:50] <Elarcis> good riddance!
[13:29:53] <Elarcis> ha!
[13:30:05] <Elarcis> so I made my damn sliders work, icebox
[13:30:12] <icebox> Elarcis: very nice!
[13:30:15] <Elarcis> icebox: it was a full stupid epiphany
[13:30:28] <icebox> Elarcis: it happens
[13:30:49] <Elarcis> icebox: a.k.a. the localObject sent back actually is the config object for the slider...
[13:30:54] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis: the same ones as yesterday ?
[13:31:12] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: yesterday was design day, today is fix-this-shit day
[13:31:32] <Pyrrhus666> I thought you were already fixing the shit yesterday :)
[13:32:10] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: nah nah nah. I was /thinking/ about how to fix it
[13:32:39] <Pyrrhus666> taking time to prepare, nice ;)
[13:32:39] <Elarcis> icebox: oh, and also: you /can/ define a callback parameter from the parent scope, which is absolutely awesome
[13:33:14] <icebox> Elarcis: cool!
[13:33:17] <Elarcis> icebox: if you just specify part of the parameters when calling the callback, the rest will just be taken from the scope where the callback has been defined
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[13:41:22] <cyberbrai> how to convert a array object into json in angularjs
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[13:42:32] <cyberbrai> {"name": "User1","Number": "8888888888"},{"name": "User1", "Number": "8888888888"} i want to make something like that
[13:42:33] <Eugene_> Hey hey. Guys any reason, why using one $resource instance filled with custom requests is better, than creating new $resource instance per each custom method?
[13:43:18] <cyberbrai> tried but working
[13:44:23] <Pyrrhus666> that all good then :)
[13:44:31] <cyberbrai> also tried $scope.data.push({"name": $scope.formData[i].name, "Number": $scope.formData[i].Number}); but not working
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[13:46:11] <cyberbrai> $scope.formData is array object
[13:46:26] <icebox> cyberbrai: it seems you requested the same a few days ago, I replied you with the solution after you quit... (and generally speaking, this is a js question, not an angular one)
[13:46:50] <icebox> cyberbrai: you can find the link to the solution in the channel logs
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[13:50:37] <cyberbrai> no i don't think so question is different (remove double quotes outside json)
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[13:51:26] <icebox> cyberbrai: (no... I am sure... from the same ip address... anyway...)
[13:51:46] <cyberbrai> dude i check the log
[13:51:51] <icebox> cyberbrai: ( you know... there are logs) :)
[13:52:01] <cyberbrai> offcourse
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[13:54:06] <icebox> cyberbrai: the technique you need is similar to that
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[13:55:00] <cyberbrai> thanks icebox
[13:55:06] <icebox> cyberbrai: you are welcome
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[13:55:28] <Pyrrhus666> that isn´t even _close_ to the question ¨how to convert a array object into json in angularjs¨ :)
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[13:57:05] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: no... indeed the question was... how to extract a key from an array of objects creating an hash object as result...
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[13:57:49] <Pyrrhus666> I could never have guessed that from the initial question. oh well :)
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[13:58:10] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: well... I guessed :)
[13:58:27] <Pyrrhus666> your had insider information :P
[13:58:46] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, icebox: holy hell I'd never have guessed either
[13:58:49] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: :P
[13:58:50] <Pyrrhus666> or your cognitive skills are no match for mine...
[13:59:18] <Elarcis> icebox is our local gibberish translator
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[13:59:48] <Pyrrhus666> yes, all we normal mortals can rely on is google translate...
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[14:00:32] <icebox> Elarcis: many times we confuse json with object literals... then if we ask for an array transformation, the most common one is from array to hash object :)
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[14:01:30] <Pyrrhus666> we bow to your superior experience :)
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[14:01:53] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: nah... I am lucky
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[14:05:46] <Eugene_> Hey hey. Guys any reason, why using one $resource instance filled with custom requests is better, than creating new $resource instance per each custom method?
[14:05:46] <Elarcis> icebox: I'd be you I'd buy a lottery ticker
[14:06:00] <Elarcis> *tick tick tick*
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[14:07:16] <Elarcis> icebox: also, people will mistake one for the other even more easily since the current syntax is now valid: { first, second }
[14:08:14] <sankar> Hello, How can get the complete html of the current page displayed , we wanted to convert the current page (html) to pdf.
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[14:08:57] <Elarcis> sankar: F13, elements, right click on HTML and 'copy outerHTML content'
[14:09:22] <Elarcis> sankar: *F12
[14:09:34] <Elarcis> :P
[14:09:58] <Pyrrhus666> Eugene_: afaik a defined $resource serves as a link to a collection, so it feels natural to have all collection methods defined on that one instance. no idea if defining new instances is better or not, but it feels weird...
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[14:10:58] <icebox> Elarcis: agreed
[14:10:58] <sankar> <Elarcis> Can we get the current html from angularjs and passed it to the server .. when the export pdf button is clicked .. with in the scope of angular
[14:11:28] <Elarcis> sankar: ah, you need to do $document.documentElement.outerHTML I guess, then send it in your request
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[14:11:50] <Elarcis> sankar: ofc provided that you injected $document in your code
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[14:12:21] <bd-> i ended up using phantomjs on server to do export to pdf stuff from angular
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[14:14:11] <Elarcis> holy, I just realized I haven't finished my ElectroBOOM marathon yet
[14:14:18] <Elarcis> well, can't really call this a marathon anymore
[14:14:34] <bd-> your what now
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[14:15:34] <Elarcis> bd-: ElectroBOOM. basically a youtube guy who has succeeded in making both obviously fake and hilarious videos about electronics and him injuring himself
[14:16:15] <havarnov_> hi, in angular 1.5 should I use a component when I in 1.4 would have used a service? (for forward compatability...)
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[14:16:31] <sankar> Elarcis: ok will check
[14:16:42] <Elarcis> bd-: how to make an electric guitar with a wooden guitar and a power plug, how not to manipulate condensators, etc.
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[14:17:38] <Elarcis> bd-: the injuries are (mostly) fake, but it's still funny because they're unexpected
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[14:18:02] <Elarcis> bd-: well most of them are unexpected, but the more you watch him the more you expect anything to just go on fire
[14:18:33] <icebox> havarnov_: no... they are two different things.. usually a component is compared with a directive
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[14:19:19] <havarnov_> icebox: ok, thanks. I haven't look into angular2 yet. But as I understand it everything is a component in angular2?
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[14:19:35] <icebox> havarnov_: angular2?
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[14:19:43] <bd-> ah yea, i seen that guy before, he's quite funny
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[14:20:43] <icebox> havarnov_: in angular 2 there components, directives, classes and so on
[14:20:49] <icebox> havarnov_: *there are
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[14:22:30] <havarnov_> icebox: i thought that everything was a component in angular 2 and therefore one should use a component in 1.5 when possible. But it seems like I got it all wrong :/
[14:22:31] <Eugene_> @Pyrrhus666: that is true, but I need some more concrete reason why one is better over another approach.
[14:22:32] <Elarcis> HarryHallman: in angular 2 services are just classes with a @Injectable() annotation
[14:22:50] <Elarcis> sorry HarryHallman, meant havarnov_
[14:23:49] <Pyrrhus666> Eugene_: what´s your usecase that this might be important ?
[14:24:24] <icebox> havarnov_: also they allow a smooth upgrade to angular 2 (just in case)
[14:26:18] <havarnov_> icebox: hmm, i don't follow. I have started to migrate my directives to components in 1.5 for a smoother upgrade to 2. But not for services?
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[14:26:55] <icebox> havarnov_: see Elarcis's reply
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[14:28:06] <havarnov_> icebox: ok, thanks for the help
[14:28:30] <icebox> havarnov_: you are welcome
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[14:32:53] <ries> Apparently it can be added to a controller, but when I do so… $onInit doesn’t get fired, perhaps it only works on component controllers?
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[14:34:15] <ries> icebox: understood, but what about my controllers? eg .controller(' ….. it doesn’t have such hooks?
[14:34:29] <icebox> ries: no... component hook :)
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[14:34:38] <Elarcis> ries: components only
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[14:35:03] <ries> icebox: Elarcis ok… it would have been nice if that also worked on all controllers...
[14:35:22] <Elarcis> ries: yes it would, but it doesn't :/
[14:35:36] <Elarcis> ries: I believe because of possible name conflicts, or else
[14:35:44] <icebox> ries: no... it would be nice if the user used components :)
[14:35:53] <Elarcis> OOOOOOH
[14:35:57] <Elarcis> BUUUURN
[14:36:09] <icebox> :P
[14:36:19] <Eugene_> @Pyrrhus666: in short. App on what I'm working on is developed in iterations. Some iterations bring something new, that is either adopted or rejected. So the previous `$resource` usage was to inject factory, that had methods, where each created separate `$resource` instance even they worked with same BE REST controller. Now current suggestion is to create one `$resource` instance, where it is filled with these methods internaly.
[14:36:39] <keerthi> developing IOS mobile app, challenge facing is calling a method written in angular2 in objective c(using UIwebView) and vice versa. Please help!
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[14:36:57] <Eugene_> @Pyrrhus666: But for that new approach to exist I need to defend it with some concrete arguments. Why it is better and why time should be invested in it.
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[14:37:05] <icebox> ries: correct
[14:38:23] <Pyrrhus666> Eugene_: I see your point, but I can´t really come up with any arguments...
[14:38:46] <Pyrrhus666> Eugene_: other than the ´it feels weird´-one :)
[14:39:01] <Eugene_> Not too concrete :)
[14:39:08] <Pyrrhus666> I know :)
[14:39:21] <Eugene_> Maybe any performance pros/cons?
[14:39:25] <Eugene_> some*
[14:40:02] <keerthi> I know you guys are on conversation with some topic but if some one can help me on this topic please
[14:40:02] <Pyrrhus666> Eugene_: if you see $resource simply as a tool that builds REST-urls for you, the ´it feels weird´ argument is moot anyway.
[14:41:02] <Pyrrhus666> Eugene_: can´t see that having a major influence on performance, but reusing an instance is probably slight faster....
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[14:42:15] <icebox> keerthi: really it is a very specific question
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[14:42:43] <ries> icebox: nice read… I am personally have a terrible time to find a sane way to create single page applications such that they work well and are easy to develop against without jumping through hoops… Biggest issue is componens communicating with eachother..
[14:44:00] <icebox> ries: if you use services to share info between components (controllers, directives, other services, etc.) automagically angular propagates changes with two way data binding
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[14:45:13] <icebox> he quit
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[14:46:46] <Pyrrhus666> how rude.
[14:47:07] <icebox> Foxandxss: hey... found a typo in cheatsheet doc and I spent a few time to understand where is the source.... I didn't find it... json in firebase?
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[14:47:24] <Foxandxss> on a database in a bunker in vietnam
[14:47:36] <icebox> Foxandxss: ah ok :)
[14:48:01] <icebox> Foxandxss: so... do I open the issue without PR in angular.io repo?
[14:48:14] <Foxandxss> nah
[14:48:19] <Foxandxss> cheatsheet is not our responsibility
[14:48:27] <Foxandxss> which cheatsheet is it?
[14:49:02] <Foxandxss> which section, they are in separate places
[14:49:18] <icebox> Foxandxss: the second one... NgModules
[14:49:28] <Foxandxss> damn, I probably made that one
[14:49:37] <icebox> Foxandxss: ng.core.NgModule({declarations: ..., imports: ..., exports: ..., providers: ..., bootstrap: ...}).class({ constructor: function() {}})
[14:49:54] <icebox> Foxandxss: .Class (no .class)
[14:50:14] <Foxandxss> IIRC I Copied that from real code
[14:50:29] <Foxandxss> and I did it wrong
[14:50:35] <icebox> Foxandxss: well... I am sure it doesn't work with ".class" :)
[14:50:36] <Foxandxss> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[14:51:18] <Foxandxss> I don't need to
[14:51:28] <Foxandxss> copied it wrong
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[14:52:10] <icebox> Foxandxss: ok... thanks... I prepare a PR
[14:52:15] <Foxandxss> thanks
[14:52:25] <Foxandxss> we pull the cheatsheet from there
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[14:53:05] <icebox> Foxandxss: I see... I did the search in angular.io :)
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[14:57:41] <icebox> Foxandxss: I don't remember... can I make a direct PR or I need to open an issue?
[14:57:51] <Foxandxss> go ahead, no problem
[14:58:06] <Foxandxss> a typo (more if it is wrong code) is a no brainer
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[15:01:16] <njmo> icebox, can you tell what angular is looking for by using url '%3Cuser-form%3E%20%3C/user-form%3E]'
[15:01:37] <njmo> icebox, i have class user, user-form.component.ts and user-form.component.html
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[15:02:39] <njmo> or someone please
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[15:10:36] <icebox> njmo: from the devtools console: decodeURI('%3Cuser-form%3E%20%3C/user-form%3E]'); // it displays "<user-form> </user-form>]"
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[15:11:00] <icebox> njmo: however I have no idea why you are asking for that :)
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[15:11:37] <njmo> i know im stupid
[15:11:43] <njmo> i discovered that 5 minutes ago
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[15:11:56] <njmo> i was wondering what the hell means %3C
[15:11:58] <icebox> njmo: no problem :)
[15:12:07] <njmo> but i miss typed template with templateUrl
[15:12:17] <icebox> njmo: nice catch
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[15:15:27] <Foxandxss> icebox: for the first field, you don't need to put an X, it is a checkbox that you get after you post the issue
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[15:15:46] <icebox> Foxandxss: ah ok... sorry
[15:16:01] <icebox> Foxandxss: (and there is a trailing blank) :)
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[15:17:16] <Elarcis> wooh, it feels great to code a simple, small component for once!
[15:17:33] <icebox> Elarcis: at last :)
[15:17:45] <Elarcis> against the usual just-append-code-to-the-shithuge-spaghetti-directive
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[15:29:23] <senayar> I prefer one directive for the entire app Elarcis
[15:30:32] <Elarcis> senayar: you're a terrible human being.
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[15:34:02] <da_wunder> "one directive to rule them all!"
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[15:35:57] <Elarcis> senayar: now that you speak of it, my predecessor 'heard' that directives were bad practice, so he avoided them as much as possible
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[15:36:09] <Elarcis> senayar: that he told me
[15:36:29] <Elarcis> senayar: which explains why there are dozens of them in various folders names 'directives'
[15:36:54] <Elarcis> senayar: none with an isolated scope, mind you. everything is $watched manually
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[15:37:38] <senayar> hope it add a lot of broadcast and emit everywhere
[15:37:45] <senayar> he*
[15:37:46] <Elarcis> senayar: of course
[15:37:52] <senayar> :D
[15:38:01] <Elarcis> senayar: events go back and forth through the whole DOM
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[15:39:19] <Elarcis> senayar: like seriously. a text input generates a 'updateBlabla' event, which goes up to the main container, that then throws a 'updatedBlabla' (mind the 'ed') which does down to the same input
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[15:40:56] <clavecoder> Hello, believe it or not first time irc user.
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[15:41:42] <clavecoder> I'm trying to make a monorepo with typescript like ng2
[15:41:48] <senayar> dom event to propagate data change, it sound awesome Elarcis :p
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[15:42:05] <Elarcis> clavecoder: monorepo?
[15:42:19] <heartburn> i'm beginning to love this dude.
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[15:42:52] <clavecoder> Yea, multiple repos in one
[15:43:03] <Iron_MAn> how to change the font style using ng-style?
[15:43:06] <Elarcis> clavecoder: oh. haven't heard about it :D
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[15:43:17] <clavecoder> They use scoped packages @angular/...
[15:43:29] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: ng-style="{font-style: getFontStyle() }"
[15:43:30] <clavecoder> All the packages are sourced in one repo
[15:43:36] <clavecoder> angular-scrs
[15:43:41] <Elarcis> clavecoder: oh
[15:43:42] <clavecoder> but they publish mulitiple
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[15:44:06] <heartburn> Iron_MAn: ng-style simply applies an object with properties to a dom node
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[15:44:17] <Iron_MAn> am using like ng-style="myobj"
[15:44:21] <clavecoder> I was wondering where I can get some help on how/why they publish the way they do.
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[15:44:25] <senayar> don't use ng-style
[15:44:25] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: yes, this should work too
[15:44:28] <senayar> use ng-class Iron_MAn
[15:44:31] <Elarcis> senayar: it depends
[15:44:36] <heartburn> a lot
[15:44:51] <Elarcis> senayar: if the CSS is dynamically generated or fetched from the server, they can't use ng-class
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[15:45:34] <clavecoder> ty. Scope, yes. In particular they put their es6 code in an esm folder but the package index.js goes against es5 code.
[15:45:39] <heartburn> you can't have 100 different ng-classes and switch between them to move an element 100 pixels to the right.
[15:45:56] <Iron_MAn> heartburn correct
[15:45:58] <clavecoder> How can they do webpack 2 treeshaking
[15:45:59] <clavecoder> ?
[15:46:07] <heartburn> i mean, you can, but that's retarded.
[15:46:15] <icebox> clavecoder: so many questions :)
[15:46:44] <clavecoder> You'd think they'd have to tell people to import against @angular/core/esm, but I don't see it :(
[15:47:02] <icebox> clavecoder: what is your question?
[15:47:12] <heartburn> instead you do ng-style='$ctrl.produceOffsetStyle($ctrl.offsetValue)'
[15:47:43] <heartburn> which returns { right: $ctrl.offsetValue + 'px' }
[15:47:47] <clavecoder> I want to publish es5 and es6 code. NG2 does it and angular-cli has tree shaking but I can't see how it works
[15:48:42] <clavecoder> webpack 2 requires "import..." to do treeshaking. ng2 puts the es6 code that has "import"... in esm folders
[15:48:48] <Iron_MAn> elarcis font-family works not font-style :D
[15:48:58] <clavecoder> but there's no instructions to people to use it.
[15:49:18] <icebox> clavecoder: you need to give a look at deploy and release scripts (build)
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[15:49:41] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: then you're using font-style wrong :D
[15:49:48] <clavecoder> Ya. nary an "esm" in the codebase but there it is in the packages...
[15:49:58] <Iron_MAn> elarcis how? :D
[15:50:09] <Iron_MAn> but its working though
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[15:50:28] <icebox> clavecoder: if you fork the project and you build it, you can see how it works
[15:50:31] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: well invalid rule value, or invalid rule name
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[15:51:13] <icebox> clavecoder: then you can apply that knowledge to your project, if I understood your aim
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[15:51:36] <clavecoder> So you're sure they use build.sh on their servers? They've got some crazy "mary-poppins" service running to do their publishing.
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[15:52:02] <clavecoder> I don't think the actual publishing code is in the repo.
[15:52:18] <icebox> clavecoder: nothing is hidden :)
[15:52:40] <clavecoder> K. I'll give it a go, thanks!
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[15:53:27] <Iron_MAn> hmmmmmmm
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[15:53:40] <clavecoder> Hmmm. is there a way to logout of irc? Or do I just dissapear?
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[15:54:04] <Iron_MAn> ??
[15:55:39] <icebox> clamstar: it depends on your irc client
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[15:55:51] <icebox> clamstar: sorry... mistell
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[15:59:10] <Elarcis> icebox: nothing except the credentials to publish to npmjs :D
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[15:59:55] <icebox> Elarcis: yep
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[16:00:30] <icebox> Elarcis: but I think he was confused by build and deploy steps
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[16:30:42] <Iron_MAn> am creating a button by simply doing <button>Login</button> but its not appearing on screen,anyone plz tell me why?
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[16:32:51] <Iron_MAn> smart questions?really?
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[16:33:24] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: no, 'how to ask questions the smart way'
[16:33:32] <Elarcis> which will help you much more
[16:33:55] <Iron_MAn> but i gave full detail,what else do you need?
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[16:34:20] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: aaah
[16:34:22] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: sorry
[16:34:24] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: your button isn't appearing because it is not displayed
[16:34:34] <Elarcis> :P
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[16:36:36] <Iron_MAn> elarcis what do you mean?
[16:36:39] <Pyrrhus666> benprez: you mean the startup ? plunkr is slow with ts
[16:37:03] <benprez> no, I mean when you click load data it adds the loading class but it doesn’t update quickly enough
[16:37:34] <Pyrrhus666> hmm, it doesn´t do anything for me...
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[16:38:05] <benprez> there’s a style in style.css that should set the text colour to red.
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[16:38:20] <benprez> do you see the loading class in dev tools when you click the btn?
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[16:38:30] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: I gave as much details as I could given what you told us.
[16:38:48] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: if you want real help, we need way more details
[16:39:18] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: I mean 'simply doing <button>Login</button> but its not appearing on screen', it could be anything
[16:39:19] <Pyrrhus666> benprez: I see loading on the console (immediately), and some other stuff shortly after.
[16:40:05] <benprez> Pyrrhus666: for me the loading class gets applied immediately, but the text colour doesn’t change :( is there also a better way to do what I am trying to achieve here?
[16:40:20] <Iron_MAn> am not using any stylesheet,normal css and ng-style am using, the button i want to display is within <h1></h1>.
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[16:40:54] <Iron_MAn> ops i think i got it
[16:41:07] <Pyrrhus666> benprez: I see... weird. I think you have same bootstrap issue.
[16:41:23] <angrybacon> Iron_MAn Just make a codepen and paste it, more often than not you'll just fix your issue trying to replicate it in the codepen
[16:41:39] <benprez> Pyrrhus666: weird.. it changes eventually
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[16:42:05] <Pyrrhus666> benprez: not for me it doesn´t. something to do with an :active pseudoclass I guess
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[16:42:38] <benprez> Pyrrhus666: haha, yes I just noticed if I deselect the button it’s red! oops
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[16:44:03] <benprez> Pyrrhus666: that’s a bit more obvious, thanks! was working all along
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[16:44:19] <Pyrrhus666> benprez: yes, not a problem with your code, but with css ;)
[16:44:29] <benprez> :D
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[16:44:39] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: hey, you just gave us more details just by telling us that XD
[16:45:22] <Iron_MAn> so do you got any solution? XD
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[16:45:54] <Pyrrhus666> how about not putting a button in a heading ?
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[16:47:05] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: dunno, I can't reproduce your issue
[16:47:17] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: a <button> inside a <h1> works for me
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[16:47:49] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: and share it to us so we can help
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[16:48:17] <Pyrrhus666> icebox: both ng1 and ng2 being faster than react sounds a bit unbelievable though :)
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[16:49:21] <arnas> hey
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[16:50:26] <arnas> I have this: <input type="text" ng-model="customerFilter.name" /> and then I apply the filter like that: <tr ng-repeat="cust in customers | filter:customerFilter........ What I want is, I want to remove this .name from the input and add like let's say 4 radio buttons with different selections, like name, city, gender etc. How can I do that?
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[16:52:32] <icebox> off... bye
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[16:53:38] <Iron_MAn> elarcis its done :)
[16:53:50] <Iron_MAn> but thankyou all ;)
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[16:55:14] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: so what was it?
[16:55:46] <Iron_MAn> it will sound stupid so better to keep quiet now :D
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[16:56:48] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: file not saved?
[16:56:55] <Iron_MAn> nope
[16:57:15] <Elarcis> Iron_MAn: wrong place to look at?
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[16:57:59] <Iron_MAn> yesterday i was using bootstrap ,so i was trying to set some css technique on that button but later on forgot to remove it xD
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[17:22:02] <quansai> What's wrong with the using the pub-sub pattern implementation built into Angular? Was told that use of $on and $emit/$broadcast is bad practice.
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[17:28:05] <solexious> Hello all, I've currently got a simple restrict E directive the uses a template html. Inside of that template (among other things) is a html canvas. How can I run some code that attaches to the canvas when its created?
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[17:31:31] <Elarcis> solexious: that would be in the link() function of your directive
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[17:32:25] <Elarcis> solexious: you'd have to use jqLite (or native js) selectors to find your canvas and do manipulations on it
[17:33:03] <solexious> Elarcis: thanks, will have a search for link stuff
[17:33:45] <Elarcis> solexious: search for 'Creating a Directive that Manipulates the DOM'
[17:34:07] <solexious> brill :D
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[18:08:05] <tuna> hey guys, does it make sense to start a new project using angular 1?
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[18:08:48] <mst> we're still doing so happily
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[18:08:53] <mst> it's not going away any time soon
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[18:11:00] <tuna> thanks mst, what build system are you using?
[18:11:04] <MasterRex> on the flip side, should I start developing new start-up apps with ng2?
[18:11:45] <grug> haha startup apps
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[18:13:00] <mst> tuna: honestly, not sure, I mostly spend my time refactoring and debugging digest-cycle issues for the people who're actually good at UI work
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[18:15:33] <tuna> mst: ohh I see.. I'm picking up angular after years of wordpress and just got assigned to a new project that is being developed using angular 1. just looking for some common sense and maybe some resources to jump start
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[18:16:04] <mst> I learned angular by loading the source code onto my tablet and reading the entire thing over a week of evenings in the pub with a beer
[18:16:06]
<Seion> I am trying to update a scope variable via a custom HTTP Rest Handler. My Problem is that the on return function updates a scope variable, but changes to the scope variable do not reflect in the view when changed. The only way I found around this is to use $scope.apply(); inside the function that is doing the change: Here is example https://paste2.org/eI2fXCUY Is there a better way of doing this without calling scope.appy?
[18:16:21] <mst> so I'm probably not the best example of how to learn it :)
[18:16:58] <Preuk> mst: drunk training is actually pretty effective imho :)
[18:17:03] <da_wunde1> yep
[18:17:19] <tuna> mst: haha, that's a fun way to learn :)
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[18:17:37] <tuna> Preuk: how did you learn angular?
[18:17:53] <da_wunder> i learn it just starting to use it
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[18:18:54] <Preuk> tuna: read a few books, did tutorials and tried to fit current app features into it
[18:19:12] <Preuk> then refactoring 3 times after RCs (doing ng2 here)
[18:19:17] <da_wunder> personally i like to separate back- and frontends totally
[18:19:33] <tuna> Preuk: any particular books you can recommend?
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[18:31:49] <Preuk> tuna: had a pretty good one (french/english) from ninja squad, i found it to be a nice companion to official tutorial
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[18:32:50] <tuna> Preuk: thanks, I'll definitely check it out
[18:33:02] <Preuk> and quite a few demo projects found on github
[18:33:15] <quansai> anyone?
[18:33:17] <quansai> What's wrong with the using the pub-sub pattern implementation built into Angular? Was told that use of $on and $emit/$broadcast is bad practice.
[18:33:29] <Preuk> bye
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[18:33:41] <mst> people often use it for things where data binding and $watch would've worked better
[18:33:46] <mst> there's nothing wrong with it
[18:33:55] <mst> just people used to jquery seem to reach for it for everything
[18:34:01] <mst> even when angular already has more elegant approaches
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[18:34:20] <quansai> @mst What about having two components talk to each other?
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[18:34:47] <quansai> Is the "most elegant" way to depend solely on data binding?
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[18:38:13] <da_wunder> quansai: service
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[18:38:59] <quansai> da_wunder: And what's wrong with emit and broadcast?
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[18:39:22] <da_wunder> quansai: with service it's just so much simplier
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[18:49:15] <quansai> da_wunder I understand that, but does $emit and $broadcast "break the framework?" I was told it "breaks the framework" without explanation.
[18:49:43] <mst> quansai: I've no idea what the person who said that meant
[18:49:55] <mst> and given they didn't explain, I think you can just disregard it
[18:49:57] <da_wunder> same here
[18:49:59] <quansai> mst: Me either.
[18:50:15] <quansai> They also said that it's a bad pattern.
[18:50:21] <mst> what they probably *meant* was "emit and broadcast, if you try and use them as jquery style event connections, produce event soup, just like badly written jquery apps do"
[18:51:15] <quansai> mst That's probably what they just didn't know how to say.
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[18:51:47] <quansai> But something also tells me that if I were to ask them what problems arise out of that, they wouldn't be able to tell me.
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[18:53:55] <da_wunder> who are "they"
[18:54:22] <Cratyz> when i have a model created in Angular 2, where do i find it when inspecting the DOM in a browser?
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[18:54:47] <mst> quansai: I think, basically, "emit and broadcast work fine, but there's almost certainly a more elegant way" is a good interpretation
[18:54:49] <da_wunder> Cratyz: you might get better response from official ng2 gitter channel
[18:55:38] <quansai> mst: That's what I thought.
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[18:55:49] <quansai> They don't "break" anything.
[18:55:57] <quansai> Bold-ass lie.
[18:56:02] <mst> but they can be used to bypass the normal dataflow system
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[18:56:15] <mst> in a way that, to somebody who doesn't really understand what's going on a result
[18:56:21] <mst> probably looks pretty equivalent to 'broken'
[18:56:37] <mst> I don't think they were lying, I just don't think they really understood what had gone wrong
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[19:00:36] <SaltyCatFish> When i try to load based off of the _index file, the dependencies fail...
[19:01:04] <SaltyCatFish> Anyone do anything like this before? Trying to use require.js to load all compoenents(filters, services, etc.) from one file.
[19:01:33] <SaltyCatFish> so my main.js file would have the entry "'filters': '/public/filters/_index'
[19:01:34] <da_wunder> SaltyCatFish: i have used gulp / webpack to handle that
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[19:01:47] <SaltyCatFish> da_wunder: I'm using gulp, i'll check out webpack
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<Seion> I am trying to update a scope variable via a custom HTTP Rest Handler. My Problem is that the on return function updates a scope variable, but changes to the scope variable do not reflect in the view when changed. The only way I found around this is to use $scope.apply(); inside the function that is doing the change: Here is example https://paste2.org/eI2fXCUY Is there a better way of doing this without calling scope.appy?
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[20:37:46] <Sai_> hi all. just getting started on angular js version1.
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[20:38:03] <Sai_> does angular js version 1 supports working with HTML4 ?
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[20:39:21] <retrospectacus> of course
[20:39:58] <Sai_> all examples out there always use the html5 doctype declaration. so wasnt sure if html4 is supported.
[20:40:03] <patrick99e99> if I have a state/route like "foo.bar.baz" that gives me a url like myapp.com/foo/bar/baz.. is there an easy way from $state to get the parent name "foo", without having to split on '/' ?
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[20:46:33] <da_wunde1> Sai_: and why you can't use those html tags ?
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[21:03:41] <Sai_> da_wunde1: i have to do a drag and drop implementation. i want to make sure that after several days of coding with angularjs i dont find out that using html4 was a bad choice.
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[21:04:49] <Sai_> da_wunde1: simple angularjs seems to work with html4 doctype pages. but no sure about an entire application.
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[21:18:55] <da_wunder> don't understand how drag+drop is related to hmtl4 at anyway
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[22:18:27] <opiates> Is anybody here familiar with charting libraries, specifically Angular-Chart.js?
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[22:18:42] <opiates> I'm going absolutely mental trying to replace Flot...
[22:19:04] <opiates> Chartist.js doesn't offer the features I need, and C3-Angular-Directive is horrible for dynamic data.
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[22:19:24] <opiates> Chart.js seems to be the only viable option except it looks like it needs separate controllers per chart if I want to render more than one chart on the same page.
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[22:26:11] <amergin> depends on what charts you need
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[22:26:48] <amergin> I personally have liked dc.js because it's fairly customizable and d3-based
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[22:27:17] <amergin> but it has its drawbacks and its not exactly responsive
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[22:27:28] <opiates> Yeah I need some responsiveness at least
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[22:27:38] <opiates> mostly I need support for DATETIME on the x-axis
[22:27:46] <amergin> so if you just need some simple bar charts go with something else than dc.js
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[22:27:52] <opiates> line charts, mostly
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[22:28:19] <opiates> well, line with interpolation and area
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[22:28:47] <opiates> I'm gonna give Google Charts a shot...
[22:29:44] <opiates> well I guess my primary concern is because of the amount of data involved, and Chart.js's requirement for multiple controllers, I gotta figure out the best way to pass the data to a "child" controller
[22:29:58] <opiates> There are three charts (and therefore three controllers) on this one page.
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[22:30:56] <opiates> Unfortunately there's not really many examples available for Angular-Chart.js specifically, but I've already sunk 20+ hrs into this issue and I still haven't been able to churn out anything viable.
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[22:32:55] <opiates> I think it's silly that so few charting libraries have sufficient support for anything other than static data.
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[22:34:02] <amergin> that's why I liked dc.js so much.
[22:34:25] <opiates> Well, I need basic responsiveness at the least
[22:34:26] <amergin> it's built for dynamic filtering and playing between multiple charts
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[22:36:42] <opiates> amergin: did you use with angular? and did you just write your own directive or use a particular angular library
[22:36:43] <amergin> did you look at angular-nvd3?
[22:36:49] <opiates> yeah
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[22:37:47] <amergin> I wrote a directive
[22:38:00] <opiates> can't remember why i ruled out angular-nvd3
[22:38:15] <opiates> i think it was lacking one particular chart
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[22:40:35] <amergin> oh there's an angular directive for highcharts available
[22:40:53] <amergin> highcharts is veery extensive charting library
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[22:41:15] <opiates> licensing :/
[22:41:27] <amergin> yep
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[22:41:33] <opiates> I think the reason I ruled out the D3 ones was because I needed something with minimal configuration
[22:42:13] <opiates> idk, the entire codebase is pretty messy IMO (albeit better than projects i've had in the past)
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[22:42:32] <amergin> you could just write your own d3-based directives and be done with it
[22:42:55] <opiates> yeah that's what i said
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<lcmatt> I have an external json file (http://pastebin.com/199zqug5) which renders a list of images, what's the best way possible to pass the key/values if you want to show that specific information on another page?
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[22:43:23] <opiates> wat
[22:43:24] <lcmatt> Example: click on the image and it shows the description etc
[22:43:33] <opiates> write directives
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[22:44:21] <opiates> i'm in #angularjs, right
[22:44:22] <opiates> yeah
[22:45:04] <bosPierry> opiates, about directives, maybe i will do a mimic ng-repeat
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[22:45:39] <bosPierry> in fact a directive to choice ng-repeat or other directive
[22:45:46] <opiates> maybe not exactly depending on how many images we're talking
[22:45:56] <bosPierry> in ionic has a "collection-repeat" directive,
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[22:48:24] <bosPierry> someone has used a directive to choice between others things, fo my case I will use a directive to choose between ng-repeat or other like as directive
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[23:46:23] <SirBean> hello there?
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[23:47:11] <SirBean> can someone help me for expressjs and angular ?
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[23:49:56] <Foxandxss> just ask
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[23:58:37] <speeddragon> Anyone can help me with a "gulp" issue ?
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