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[00:59:50] <Arf> hi folks. checking back in. anyone have suggestions for getting my import of the Sortablejs library into an Angular2 project? http://plnkr.co/edit/z8VzCDYNrQR4KzpTVqI7?p=preview
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[01:00:06] <Arf> to work
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[01:49:44] <bodqhrohro> I needed `:host >>>`. Is this still actual solution or there are a new way to style children components?
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[02:07:44] <QssT> new angularjs student here. What are some good objectives and goals for someone learning angularjs? Making some bullet points here, would love to hear you guys advice.
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[02:18:33] <__nurby__> hi. I'm trying to format a date in Angular2 using the date pipe but it's not displaying anything. My dates are in the format - ' 2016-06-29T00:00:00'. Am I doing something wrong? I've tried - myDate | date:'dd/MM/yyyy'
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[03:15:57] <armlesshobo> if I want to use an external api for data in my web app, what is the best way to do it so as to avoid same-origin errors?
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[03:26:06] <zomg> armlesshobo: well you really have two options.. either have the api use the correct CORS headers to allow for cross-origin access, or set up a script on your server to proxy requests to it
[03:26:40] <armlesshobo> oh, ok.
[03:26:45] <armlesshobo> so nothing crazy, then.
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[04:14:00] <earational> hey
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[04:45:55] <CoderAbsolute> Am starting a new JS project, the project should be live by end of this year. I have not much of experience in JS (backend guy), safe to start exploring the Angular2 or stick with Angular 1.5?
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[04:55:03] <Logitec> Hello everyone, I'm trying to use TypeAhead which is in the Angular UI Bootstrap package, followed the installation instructions (using Visual Studio/NPM) but keep getting the message: 'Module 'ui.bootstrap' is not available'
[04:55:12] <Logitec> any tips on how to proceed?
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[04:55:37] <Logitec> error obviously comes from this line: angular.module('moduleName', ['ui.bootstrap'])
[04:57:06] <Logitec> maybe it has something to do with not loading the correct .js file?
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[05:51:59] <CoderAbsolute> Logitec: Have you installed the package?
[05:53:07] <CoderAbsolute> If you are using npm, then 'npm install angular-ui-bootstrap' would be helpful.
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[05:56:53] <himanshu> Hi
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[07:41:32] <ivegotasthma> hello, in angularjs I am subscribing to an observable and I have a function to handle the received data, inside the closure of that function, how can I reference `this.property` of the component it is in, instead of the closures' own scope?
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[08:17:10] <ngWalrus> var vm = this
[08:17:22] <ngWalrus> vm.property
[08:17:25] <ngWalrus> something like that
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[08:37:36] <docMika> hey yo yo yo hey yo
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[08:37:43] <docMika> (since Plop isn't recognised)
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[08:39:07] <docMika> Ho I'm first of the pack
[08:39:09] <docMika> fun
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[09:03:11] <DocMika> re all
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[09:11:26] <icebox> hey
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[09:14:15] <Ruzzy> I got an odd problem with my angular app in chrome
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[09:16:25] <Ruzzy> I'm using angular UI router as well
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[09:17:30] <Ruzzy> so when one of the partials appears, it updates some values on the page (correctly) but even though those changes are finished, they are not reflected in the print dialog until I print for the SECOND time
[09:17:59] <Ruzzy> in other words, partial loads and values update, i click print and the preview shows all of those values empty, then i cancel and click print again
[09:18:16] <Ruzzy> then that second time, the values are there as they should be
[09:18:44] <Ruzzy> why isn't that markup appearing correctly on the first attempt at printing and is there a way to fix it?
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[09:20:10] <icebox> Ruzzy: I understand you see the page correctly rendered, but the print preview page not
[09:20:46] <Ruzzy> icebox: I can't tell if I see it correctly in the viewport, because it's all hidden using CSS for the display
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[09:21:28] <Ruzzy> it has display: none; for the screen
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[09:23:23] <soee_> s there some ready ti use fucntin to check if array contains some item ?
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[09:25:38] <Pyrrhus> like Array.indexOf ?
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[09:27:10] <DocMika> soee_: or .exists ?
[09:27:16] <DocMika> or contains
[09:27:28] <DocMika> (plop Pyrrhus)
[09:27:49] <Pyrrhus> plopperdeplop DocMika ;)
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[09:28:36] <DocMika> can't wait for tonight *_* opening a box of mtg : eternal masters
[09:28:56] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: those two aren´t native though ? lodash or jquery ?
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[09:29:08] <oelewapperke> how do you enable rich error messages for angular ?
[09:29:15] <Pyrrhus> is mtg even still a thing ? :P
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[09:31:02] <Pyrrhus> oelewapperke: errors on the console or for the user ?
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[09:31:20] <Pyrrhus> and what do you mean by rich ?
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[09:32:30] <Vijayvithal> I am having some issues with my routing code in NG2 RC3 can some one take a quick look and tell me what I am doing wrong...
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[09:32:43] <icebox> oelewapperke: use toastr
[09:33:01] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: good question, I might be confused with c#
[09:33:09] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: yes it is
[09:33:10] <Vijayvithal> My code is at https://github.com/jahagirdar/ng2-test
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[09:34:01] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: and this box is a reedition of old cards whose value are up to a hundred bucks each, with new arts and for some a "foil" first-time-ever edition, meaning the box can reimburse itself on some of the cards.
[09:34:02] <Vijayvithal> in my dashboard I have the following code
[09:34:03] <DocMika> :D
[09:34:04] <Vijayvithal> <tr *ngFor="let hero of heroes" (click)="gotoDetail(hero)">
[09:34:26] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: I remember the first time I saw it in, like, 1985 or something. when WotC still did good things :)
[09:34:27] <icebox> Vijayvithal: it would be better you provide a minimal working plunker, narrowing the issue
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[09:34:57] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: :) if you still have cards from that period you might sit on a lot of money
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[09:35:10] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: (some are up to 30K $)
[09:35:50] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: I know, but I was never a player. I saw it because it was all the rage amongst tabletop D&D-ers (which I did)
[09:35:55] <Vijayvithal> I am a newbie at plunker, I tried creating one at https://plnkr.co/edit/bAOEfhQh6Mfjn5ER2dW but It is not working :(
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[09:36:57] <icebox> Vijayvithal: sure... it is empty :)
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[09:37:43] <Vijayvithal> I am not sure how to get the transpiling log @ plunker
[09:37:54] <Vijayvithal> icebox: sorry I did not freeze it.
[09:38:02] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: well, try to find some of your old adventurers pal, and ask them. And if you have a good state first edition book of d&d, that's cash too
[09:38:19] <icebox> Vijayvithal: unlikely there is someone debugging a whole app for you... you need to narrow the issue
[09:38:19] * DocMika is totally OT, again.
[09:38:43] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: I know these people. they do not part with any of their books, ever ;)
[09:38:56] <icebox> Vijayvithal: !help
[09:38:56] <angularjs_bot> AngularJS Plunker template http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS
[09:38:59] <icebox> !help2
[09:38:59] <angularjs_bot> Angular 2 plunker template: http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:Dxivp0ifECa9UK3fZ0xH
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[09:39:10] <Vijayvithal> I have narrowed down the code to just the one with the issue...
[09:39:12] <icebox> Vijayvithal: ^ template for angular 2
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[09:39:38] <icebox> Vijayvithal: is this your narrowed code? https://github.com/jahagirdar/ng2-test
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[09:40:22] <icebox> Vijayvithal: for me narrowing an issue, it is a snippet with about ten lines of code
[09:40:39] <icebox> Vijayvithal: of course, your mileage may vary
[09:40:53] <Vijayvithal> yes It is the narrowed down code.
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[09:43:34] <Vijayvithal> Is the plunker at https://plnkr.co/edit/bAOEfhQh6Mfjn5ER2dWP?p=preview visible now?
[09:44:29] <icebox> Vijayvithal: yes... but there are many errors in the console.. please check devtools console
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[09:46:07] <Pyrrhus> Vijayvithal: also, it looks like you´re using router-deprecated. are you sure you want to continue using that ?
[09:46:26] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: still works better than the new router ;-)
[09:46:43] <Vijayvithal> How do I check teh transpiler log message in plunker?
[09:46:53] <Pyrrhus> which is still worse than ngrx/router ;)
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[09:47:20] <Pyrrhus> Vijayvithal: normally, on the browser´s console (dev tools)
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[09:49:01] <Vijayvithal> The browsers console log is showing me series of 404 messages for the @angular files @ the CDN...
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[09:49:51] <Vijayvithal> Looking at the CDN I do not find any of the RC[1,2,3] versions there.
[09:49:55] <DocMika> Vijayvithal: if it's from the "router-deprecated" that's normal
[09:51:28] <Vijayvithal> Yes These are from the router :(
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[09:53:09] <DocMika> Vijayvithal: well use the new router
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[09:54:26] <Vijayvithal> I tried creating a testcase with the new router, looks like it does not accept link parameters at the top level.
[09:56:49] <Pyrrhus> Vijayvithal: it looks like your project is a modified quickstart. maybe it would be easiest to get the new quickstart (with new router) and add your components to that.
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[09:59:37] <Vijayvithal> Let me try that...
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[10:28:01] <DocMika> there's a girl named "Emily Ho" in our company. Email are auto-created with "lastname+initial of first name@companyName"
[10:28:13] <DocMika> it's kinda disturbing to receive mail from "hoe#company"
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[10:28:39] <Pyrrhus> hehe :)
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[10:32:52] <Phaneendra> hi
[10:33:01] <Phaneendra> I have an issue with ng-if
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[10:37:58] <DocMika> that's sad
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[10:45:42] <Pyrrhus> so far I´ve based all my experiments on the preboot starter. do people here feel angular-cli is the way to go for building projects from scratch ?
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[10:47:20] <icebox> Pyrrhus: no...
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[10:47:50] <Pyrrhus> icebox: not mature enough ? other reasons ?
[10:48:24] <icebox> Pyrrhus: https://medium.com/ at martin_hotell/angular-cli-and-real-development-productivity-4ba3c1865eda# dot ah8heo26i
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[10:52:09] <Elarcis> hurray, I'm now doing Typescript!
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[10:52:42] <icebox> Elarcis: sigh :P
[10:52:53] <Elarcis> even better, thanks to Webpack, I can do Typescript anywhere and don't worry about compatibility between modules!
[10:53:01] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: welcome to the light side ;)
[10:53:06] <Elarcis> icebox: you're jealous, I know it~
[10:53:22] <Elarcis> We may not have cookies, but we have strongly typed variables!
[10:53:36] <Pyrrhus> ... at compile time ;)
[10:54:10] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: yeah, at dev time too thanks to code editors x)
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[10:55:41] <icebox> Elarcis: maybe... for sure I don't miss build step :)
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[10:56:07] <Elarcis> icebox: was it so slow?
[10:56:59] <icebox> Elarcis: no... but if I need that step, well I use another language... c, c++
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[10:57:52] <Elarcis> but...who 'needs' a build step? if I could do C/C++ without bothering to build it, it would be so cool :D
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[10:58:02] <icebox> Elarcis: of course, my point is quite stretched, because for large projects is unavoidable using a build step... but still it is annoying
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[10:58:55] <Elarcis> icebox: welcome to the world of 1-second on-change builds and browser realoads with Webpack
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[10:59:03] <Tritian_> Hello - I have a directive used twice in the same template, and I want to set it's controllerAs property so I can reference the two independently in the template
[10:59:08] <Tritian_> how can I do that from the HTML?
[10:59:21] <icebox> Elarcis: ah... and the most annoying part is "module" spec is not implemented yet... and we rely on external libs (read fragmentation)
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[10:59:47] <Elarcis> icebox: it litterally takes more time to switch to the browser than to build everything again
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[10:59:52] <Elarcis> icebox: module spec? what do you mean?
[11:00:16] <icebox> Elarcis: ES2015 module loader is not implemented
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[11:00:33] <Tritian_> something like <my-directive controllerAs="foo"></my-directive><my-directive controllerAs="bar"></my-directive> <div ng-show="foo.complete && bar.complete">DONE!</div>
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[11:00:36] <icebox> Elarcis: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/web/javascript/reference/statements/import
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[11:01:43] <Elarcis> icebox: well isn't it why people code in ES6+Babel/Typescript? To use them and benefit of polyfills, then to transpile to true ES6 later, when implementations are acceptable?
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[11:09:44] <Pyrrhus> icebox: thx for the angular-cli link. I think I´ll stay away from it :)
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[11:15:14] <Pyrrhus> when I build a reusable ´feature´ in ng2 that depends on a service, is that service actually a part of the feature ? each instance of the feature might need a slightly reworked version of the service to be able to function ( because it communicates with a backend, and puts the data into a format that the feature can use)
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[11:16:20] <Pyrrhus> or should it define an interface that needs implementing for each instance ?
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[11:18:52] <Tritian_> any ideas regarding my issue about a way to programmatically define the controllerAs for a directive from a template
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[11:20:35] <icebox> Pyrrhus: it depends if the component is steteful (smart/container component) or stateless (dumb/presentational components)
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[11:21:39] <Pyrrhus> icebox: in this case it´s dumb. it just presents a way of interacting with a data-set that is managed by the service.
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[11:22:06] <Pyrrhus> the interface way kinda attracts me...
[11:22:52] <icebox> Pyrrhus: at last both are coupled with the component
[11:23:27] <icebox> Pyrrhus: I think I suggested it yesterday... you may read https://github.com/toddmotto/angular-styleguide#stateful-components
[11:23:58] <icebox> Pyrrhus: anyway it is a grey zone :)
[11:24:02] <Pyrrhus> icebox: ah yes, I read that. I was now looking at the ng2 styleguide (and seeing no obvious answer)
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[11:24:27] <Pyrrhus> icebox: what do you mean by ´at least both are coupled´ ?
[11:26:12] <icebox> Pyrrhus: where do you store the physical file? in components/myfeature/myfeature.service.js or in common/utils/myadapter.service.js?
[11:26:21] <Pyrrhus> (as to the definition : the component itself (not the service) has well defined bindings, and only exposes on item from the data-set to the outside world. however, that _is_ in the same format as defined in the service.... maybe I´d better reduce it to an ID)
[11:26:32] <icebox> Pyrrhus: generally speaking, in the components :)
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[11:26:44] <Pyrrhus> for now its all in /shared/feature-name/
[11:26:56] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: you can also make services extend others :D
[11:27:11] <icebox> Pyrrhus: that is the point... shared should not exist :)
[11:27:45] <icebox> Pyrrhus: components are features you may copy to another projects
[11:27:50] <Pyrrhus> icebox: yes, I know, but for now just read /shared/ as /common/ ;)
[11:27:59] <icebox> Pyrrhus: (yes, I understood that)
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[11:28:45] <icebox> Pyrrhus: shared (or common) at last of the day should not contain anything... because all the code is reusable in the components
[11:28:49] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: that´s a possibility. in this case it would not be very different from the interface way.
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[11:29:00] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: I imagine so
[11:29:13] <icebox> Pyrrhus: of course, in an ideal world :) as I said... it is a grey zone
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[11:29:32] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: basically in an angularjs project we had our own ajaxProvider, that defined common settings to make requests to the (WCF) backend
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[11:29:46] <DeviloperOO5> hello any body know angular 2.0 am stuck with a issue
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[11:29:59] <Pyrrhus> icebox: in practice, I see the dividing line between features that are actually reused in other projects and custom features for a project ;)
[11:30:15] <icebox> Pyrrhus: yep... it is not an easy task :)
[11:30:16] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: then each webservice had its own service, like new Ajax('myService.svc'), so it was easy to just call a method from a webservice :D
[11:30:56] <DeviloperOO5> please try to answer my question
[11:30:57] <DeviloperOO5> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38099523/how-to-add-and-remove-select-box-options-if-other-select-box-options-changes-to
[11:31:03] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: of course this isn't about reusability here, more about refactoring, but I liked the stuff
[11:31:55] <Pyrrhus> icebox: nope, it isn´t. I´ve peeked at primeNG
[11:32:05] <Pyrrhus> ´s stuff, and the way they do it.
[11:32:46] <Pyrrhus> but they just make a feature that depends on a custom data-format. you have to build your own service to deliver that.
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[11:33:25] <Pyrrhus> (i.c. threir datatree which depends on and communicates in instances of a treenode object)
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[11:34:20] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: yeah, you´re providing a reusable abstraction, which simplifies life :)
[11:35:04] <Pyrrhus> DeviloperOO5: your plunk has tempate errors.
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[11:36:51] <icebox> it should be (code1 + dep1 + dep2) < (code2 + dep1) otherwise dep2 has meaningless... at the moment it is the opposite :)
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[11:37:38] <Pyrrhus> icebox: wut ? reference lost error...
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[11:38:34] <icebox> after refactoring d3 code without using a third party lib, I noticed d3 pure code is shorter than using third party lib
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[11:39:18] <Pyrrhus> icebox: btw reading toddmoto´s guide, a stateful component ´communicates through a service´, but he says nothing about whether the service is part of the component (which I read as ´feature´)
[11:39:31] <icebox> OT: https://www.nczonline.net/blog/2015/12/why-im-not-using-your-open-source-project/
[11:39:33] <Pyrrhus> icebox: haha, yes, that explains it :)
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[11:40:21] <icebox> Pyrrhus: agree... it seems there is an issue explaining that
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[11:40:48] <Pyrrhus> icebox: which is the core of my original question, dammit :)
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[11:41:57] <icebox> Pyrrhus: well.. I understood your original question... I suppose all we are struggling with that question... but I think there is not a strong rule
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[11:45:00] <Pyrrhus> I know, which is exactly why I asked it. I need guidance ;) for now, I think I´ll go for the interface way, implementing a service based on that should be pretty trivial. also, it´s a nice way to abstract future features (like actully modifying the data-set managed by the service instance)
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[11:45:18] <icebox> Pyrrhus: in the past I thought on it and my point is the following: the service without the view doesn't make sense, because data should be displayed... the point is not if the service might be reused in another context, but the point is that service needs another kind of view to display data... so the granularity of that service is not implemented correctly... maybe you need two different services... this is the reason, usually, t
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[11:45:50] <icebox> Pyrrhus: coupled with the component
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[11:46:20] <icebox> Pyrrhus: I mean, you should cut the service until that part of code is component related
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[11:46:30] <icebox> Pyrrhus: I hope it makes sense
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[11:47:11] <Pyrrhus> that means I´d make the component dependant on a data-structure to be delivered regardless of how you do it. that could work.
[11:47:28] <icebox> Pyrrhus: yes
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[11:48:13] <icebox> Pyrrhus: only services without a vide, without the need to display data, so called utils, are "true" services... and they would lay in common/shared folder
[11:48:16] <Pyrrhus> that´s what the primeNG people do.
[11:48:25] <icebox> Pyrrhus: *without a view
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[11:50:19] <Pyrrhus> well, in its most basic form the service only fetches the data-set, so it has no view. even features like adding/removing/editing items in the set could be implemented without a view.
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[11:50:42] <Pyrrhus> what you do with the data is up to you...
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[11:51:13] <Pyrrhus> s/editing/modifying/
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[11:52:22] <icebox> Pyrrhus: yes... but the data set is related to a view... I mean... if the service contains a, b, c and view1 displays a and b.... maybe the service is too big... and maybe you need two services: service1 with a,b for view1 and service2 with c for view2
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[11:52:58] <DocMika> re all
[11:53:29] <icebox> Pyrrhus: anyway this is arbitrary... because there are other factors... maybe the cost of the call to retrieve a,b,c....
[11:53:56] <icebox> Pyrrhus: for that reason I said it is an opionionated task and grey zone
[11:55:34] <Pyrrhus> icebox: we agree on that :)
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[11:56:51] <icebox> Pyrrhus: anyway if you are aware about this "problem", any choice is good :)
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[11:58:18] <soee_> where woudl you put 2-3 function resposible for mass deleting or activatng user accounts that are used by commands or controllers ?
[11:58:48] <soee_> sorry wrong channel :)
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[12:00:20] <pippo> hello, I have a question...I'm building a cross responsive site and I noted that $http on ios safari mobile not working...I don't receive the respose why?
[12:00:23] <pippo> thanks!
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[12:02:10] <Pyrrhus> pippo: it should work on the latest safari/IOS. is it too old ?
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[12:04:26] <pippo> I have a problem only on http get querystring
[12:05:27] <Pyrrhus> if it works everywhere else, I have no answer, sorry. my best guess is to update IOS...
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[12:11:05] <zug_> Does angular2 have a helper method to parse {"foo": "bar", "bar: "baz"} -> '?foo=bar&bar=baz' ?
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[12:14:40] <angrybacon> zug_ https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/service/$httpParamSerializer probably
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[12:14:53] <bd-> zug_: nope, you need to use URLSearchParams
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[12:15:04] <marcin> Hi i have question to definition of contoller
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[12:15:07] <bd-> also the router doesn't support ? style query strings, unless they changed that recently
[12:15:16] <marcin> what is a diffrence betwween
[12:15:33] <marcin> parking.controller("parkingCtrl", function ($scope) {
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[12:16:11] <marcin> and this
[12:16:12] <marcin> .controller('MyController', ['$scope', function($scope) {
[12:16:37] <marcin> packing.controller('MyController', ['$scope', function($scope) {
[12:17:00] <marcin> why table as parameter?
[12:17:25] <zug_> bd-: Is that object passable to Http?
[12:17:32] <zug_> The docs on the subject confuse me
[12:18:24] <bd-> the docs are bad
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[12:19:14] <angrybacon> zug_ Use $httpParamSerializer
[12:19:30] <zug_> angrybacon: I use angular2
[12:19:31] <bd-> you can't pass to http i think you have to manually build a string with '?'+encodeURI(urlparamsobj.toString())
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[12:20:02] <zug_> Ah, that makes sense
[12:20:31] <zug_> Thanks bd-, I'll try it out
[12:20:57] <bd-> i'm not sure you can pass it a {foo:'bar'} object either
[12:21:02] <marcin> maybe someone can tel me diffrence:
[12:21:02] <bd-> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/URLSearchParams
[12:21:03] <marcin> packing.controller('MyController', ['$scope', function($scope) { }]); VS parking.controller("MyController", function ($scope) { });
[12:21:15] <bd-> marcin: the former is for minifiers
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[12:21:40] <marcin> in app i have packing.controller('KnowledgeController', ['$scope', '$compile', '$window', '$http', 'ModalService', 'GlobalService', '$timeout', function ($scope, $compile, $window, $http, ModalService, GlobalService, $timeout) {
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[12:22:06] <marcin> why table and what it mean
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[12:22:30] <marcin> anybody?
[12:23:05] <bd-> marcin: it stops minifiers from rewriting the dependency injection and breaking it
[12:24:29] <angrybacon> marcin https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/di
[12:27:29] <marcin> bd-, angrybacon, tnx, it was difficult to find any materials about it having just code
[12:28:05] <angrybacon> marcin Well, I googled "angular dependency"
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[12:34:28] <Phaneendra> Hi
[12:34:33] <Phaneendra> I have an issue with ng-if
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[12:34:42] <Phaneendra> in developing an custom directive
[12:35:01] <Phaneendra> im developing a datepicker
[12:35:05] <Phaneendra> using an directive
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[12:35:25] <Phaneendra> when parent div has ng-if child element are not working for jquery datepicker()
[12:35:30] <Phaneendra> can any one help me
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[12:41:37] <senayar_> yes Phaneendra do plunkr
[12:41:39] <senayar_> !help
[12:41:39] <angularjs_bot> AngularJS Plunker template http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS
[12:41:48] <Phaneendra> ok
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[12:42:24] <Phaneendra> !help
[12:42:24] <angularjs_bot> AngularJS Plunker template http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS
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[12:51:28] <trudko> Hi, whats general approach for sharing models between controllers and directives? In my case I have controller and page with multiple directives, each of these directive have checkbox and I need to track state of these checkbox in the controller.
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[12:52:13] <trudko> should I use double bind and pass the controller variable for checbox(lets say array containing identifiers of checkboxes, or some object) and let directives updated them whenever user checks / unchecks the box?
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[12:53:23] <Pyrrhus> hmm, reading the ng2 styleguide, I see the notices for interfaces, but the example exports a class, not an interface. is this on purpose (i.e. their ´interface´ is not a TS interface ?)
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[12:57:48] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: classes are interfaces with methods :D
[12:57:57] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: (at least in every OOP I know)
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[12:58:44] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: true, but this is a definition question ;) the interface construct exists in TS, but is (apparantly) not used in defining an ng2 ´interface´ ;)
[12:59:07] <trudko> I guess the prefered way is really to pass down the array from controller to each of directives through isolated scope and simply updated it from there?
[12:59:15] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: dunno, really, as I recall they used an interface in their quickstart
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[13:01:28] <trudko> guys / girls am I correct?
[13:01:40] <scarlet> hi
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[13:02:05] <scarlet> am making an angular program will anyone help me out
[13:02:08] <trudko> or I can use broadcast which personally seems nicer ot me
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[13:02:50] <Pyrrhus> trudko: ng1 is a while back, but can´t you expose the checkbox status of the instances of the directive to the parent scope, like the real checkbox does ?
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[13:03:21] <trudko> Pyrrhus: what do you mean by exposes the checkbox status ?
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[13:03:29] <trudko> the checkbox is inside of directive
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[13:04:22] <trudko> I mean what I will have to do is call method everytime checkbox is checked , because I need to either add element if checkbox is checked or removed it if its unchecked
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[13:05:25] <Pyrrhus> add/remove where ? inside or outside of the directive ?
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[13:06:01] <trudko> outside I have controller which tracks values of checkboxes inside of directives
[13:06:21] <trudko> so controller needs to know about the state of these checkboxes
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[13:06:43] <Elarcis> any idea how I can make a glob selector in Karma to select both .js and .ts?
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[13:07:01] <trudko> one easy way would be to emit an event from directive every time checkbox value changes
[13:07:27] <trudko> another one would be to pass variable and let the directives update it by them self
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[13:07:42] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: *.[t|j]s ?
[13:08:08] <trudko> although in that case I would have basically same update function for all directives (the update function would be simple, just change value to true or false for given checkbox)
[13:08:39] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: trying it
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[13:11:48] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: thanks, was so simple, but I was trying (j|t) instead
[13:11:57] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: I guess regexes make too much sense XD
[13:12:02] <Pyrrhus> regex :)
[13:12:21] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: well in a regex it would be [tj] trully
[13:12:26] <Elarcis> *truly
[13:12:59] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: no, because that would also match ´´ or ´tj´.
[13:13:32] <Pyrrhus> or does it ? oh well, it works. regex makes for headaches :)
[13:15:18] <DocMika> regex must only be used to parse html.
[13:15:22] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: uh? https://regex101.com/r/eR1hS8/1
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[13:16:56] <Elarcis> I like this site, it's the perfect tool to try and share regexes
[13:17:05] <Inge-> ome people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems.
[13:17:08] <Inge-> some*
[13:17:29] <Elarcis> Inge-: some people know how to use regexes >:D
[13:17:35] <Inge-> ;)
[13:17:43] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: question is whether we should trust its outcomes ;) is it preg, ereg, regular reg ?
[13:18:00] <Pyrrhus> yes, Jamie Zawinski knows his shit...
[13:18:17] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: I set it to JS, so I guess it's whatever JS uses as default regex standard?
[13:18:41] <Pyrrhus> ah yes, hadn´t noticed that :)
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[13:27:40] <trudko> Pyrrhus: sorry what do you think about the solution? pass the variable from controller to each directive or emit and update of checkbox from directives to controller or some other approac
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[13:35:08] <Pyrrhus> trudko: I still think you should expose the directive instances state to the outside world, so the controller can check/watch that like a regular checkbox´s ´checked´ property.
[13:35:56] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: hey, I am configurating karma-remap-istanbul, but I've got a weird behavior: it seems the coverage-final.json is generated AFTER karma-remap tries to read it, so each time I run my tests, karma-remap only uses the JSON generated last time
[13:36:20] <Pyrrhus> so in the scope section of your directive you should have somering like scope: { checked: ´=´ } to two-way bind the ´checked´ property
[13:36:53] <Pyrrhus> but as I said, my ng1 is rusty, and you haven´t really explained your use-case :) can you plunk it ?
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[13:38:07] <trudko> Pyrrhus: so you mean instead of passing some listOfCheckedDirectives to each of directives , each directive would have checked variable which would be updated through double bind and controller would simply watch it?
[13:38:21] <Pyrrhus> trudko: yes.
[13:38:47] <Pyrrhus> the directives should not know of the other instances. or so I think :)
[13:39:02] <trudko> Pyrrhus: ok and then given that I need to know which checkbox exactly was updated, the checked variable would be maybe object with { checkboxId: 1234, state: true/false} ?
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[13:40:03] <Pyrrhus> trudko: but you don´t want to know which _checkbox_ was updated, but which _instance_of_the_directive_ had its state changed, right ?
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[13:41:13] <Niks> Hi Can anyone tell me how can i do bundling in Angular JS project
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[13:41:26] <Niks> ??
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[13:42:02] <Niks> How can i do bundling like MVC in angular js project
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[13:42:12] <DocMika> what?
[13:42:18] <trudko> Pyrrhus: well the use case is that I have checkboxes for each directive and I have bulk action button in controll of controller so lets say I have table with rows, each row is directive and I want to delete several rows at once so I check them and hit action button
[13:42:33] <DocMika> Niks: what do you mean? angular is an mvvm framework, so it works as mv and you have controller if you need them
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[13:42:56] <trudko> and I need to send identifiers of these rows/ directives to the server (so yeah technicall checkboxId wouldn't be checkboxId but id of that row)
[13:43:05] <trudko> that row / directive
[13:43:20] <Niks> DoMica- like i have 20 script and all i need to include in my html page
[13:43:29] <Pyrrhus> trudko: so on a bulk delete, you have the parent loop the rows, and delete those who have their delete property set to true ?
[13:43:33] <Niks> i want know any way to budle them
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[13:44:15] <Pyrrhus> trudko: and that property is _controlled_ by the checkbox internally in the directive.
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[13:44:43] <DocMika> Niks: https://colinmackay.scot/2013/07/15/getting-started-with-angularjs-bundling-the-files/
[13:45:41] <Niks> Hey this way i know but i am lookin if i am not using MVC or Vs TO DEVLOP ANGUALR
[13:45:53] <trudko> on bulk delete I would simply go through the controllers checked variable(which would be updated as you propesed through $watch) , take their ids and send it to server, I dont have to have object simple list of strings with ids to delet ecould be neough
[13:45:55] <Niks> any plug-in or any ng- support keyword
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[13:46:00] <Pyrrhus> trudko: but that´s my opinion of course. you could also emit an event that signals the parent to add/remove the row from the ´toBeDeleted´ queue of course :)
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[13:47:56] <Pyrrhus> trudko: ´updated through $watch´ makes no sense...
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[13:49:24] <Pyrrhus> trudko: also, it seems like you´re talking about CRUD on a set of items, is that your use-case ?
[13:49:54] <trudko> well I meant that controller would be watching 'checked' -> $scope.$watch('checked', function(newValue) { checkedDirectives[newValue.id] = newvalue.state} ....
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[13:50:10] <trudko> Pyrrhus: not crud there are some custom actions
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[13:51:48] <Pyrrhus> trudko: if your view reflects items in a collection, you also might just set a tobedeleted flag on an item by checking the checkbox, and on a bulk action just loop the collection to see what needs to be done....
[13:52:20] <Pyrrhus> (so your controller doesn´t check/loop the directive, but the item models)
[13:52:52] <Pyrrhus> but this is all highly speculative :) can you plunk what you have ?
[13:53:23] <trudko> Pyrrhus: well thats what my plan is no ?: P $scope.$watch('checked', function(newValue) { checkedDirectives[newValue.id] = newvalue.state} .... checkedDirectives being collections of object {directiveId, state} which would be updated and then when I hit submit I would go through that and send id for those items which state is true(checkbox was checked)
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[13:54:57] <Elarcis> uh
[13:55:20] <Pyrrhus> trudko: $watching an arbitrary amount of instances sounds unclean and inefficient though...
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[13:55:49] <trudko> so how would you update collection in controller when one of checkboxes gets checked?
[13:56:53] <Pyrrhus> trudko: if the propery is 2-way bound to the directive, it´s done automagically...
[13:57:12] <Pyrrhus> that´s the beauty of it...
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[13:57:33] <trudko> well yes but it would be bind between directive view and directive controller, not the main controller
[13:57:57] <trudko> for that I would have to pass main controller variable to the scope of directive
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[13:59:02] <trudko> I though that if I have directive checked: '=' in side of directive that the controller outside of that directive can watch it and updated although , now thinking about this, this can't be done no?
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[13:59:19] <trudko> should have make plunker demo...
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[13:59:39] <trudko> let me do one quickly
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[14:02:18] <senayar_> Foxandxss: what do you thing about the stack of angularclass ? Do you use only angular2-cli to create your app from the start :o
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[14:07:08] <Pyrrhus> senayar_: icebox had a nice writeup about that : https://medium.com/ at martin_hotell/angular-cli-and-real-development-productivity-4ba3c1865eda# dot ah8heo26i
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[14:08:54] <trudko> Pyrrhus: https://plnkr.co/edit/BCTbzYaNYmnFJoaeOWDs?p=preview
[14:09:30] <trudko> this is pretty much what it looks like to me so let sa yI want to check last two rows and have that info in bulkAction function for TeenController
[14:10:02] <trudko> btw only difference which I ommited is that in this case there is only one directive but in my app I have three because of three different types of rows
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[14:10:37] <trudko> lol icebox is Czech ? :P
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[14:10:55] <senayar_> thank you Pyrrhus but it's only about CLI :) and webpack :)
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[14:12:48] <trudko> Pyrrhus: does the example make sense?
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[14:14:52] <Pyrrhus> trudko: https://plnkr.co/edit/NLFJiHl84xjMRR5FcliK?p=preview
[14:15:02] <Pyrrhus> that´s what I mean
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[14:16:20] <trudko> Pyrrhus: i see in my case the happy isn't really there and would be arbitrary though
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[14:16:42] <Pyrrhus> trudko: just add it via your service as a transient property or smt.
[14:16:49] <trudko> in this example which I just randomly found the checkbox is state of the model (teen happy) in my case not so much and would be undefined.
[14:17:10] <Pyrrhus> undefined is false, so that´s fine for a checkbox :)
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[14:17:30] <trudko> Pyrrhus: yeah just tried that
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[14:17:58] <Pyrrhus> still, in the service you can simply transform the data to fit your model/view, without it being a reflection of a ´real´ property in the backend.
[14:18:04] <trudko> yeah this would be easiest although seems like a bit unbvious
[14:18:15] <Pyrrhus> that´s what the service abstraction is for.
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[14:18:58] <Pyrrhus> trudko: well, when thinking $resource and collections, it´s a really obvious solution to me :)
[14:19:04] <trudko> Pyrrhus: I do have services tthats true, so I would iterate over result in $http call and add bulkAction variable?
[14:19:25] <Pyrrhus> trudko: for example, yes.
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[14:19:48] <Pyrrhus> again, my opionion, no absolute truths here :)
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[14:25:23] <trudko> Pyrrhus: heh thanks
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[14:27:28] <Pyrrhus> trudko: np ;)
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[14:39:09] <Foxandxss> Elarcis: I don't know, that shit is problematic tbh
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[14:39:48] <Foxandxss> senayar_: I have access to angularclass stack but I don't really like it for new projects. It is overly complicated imo
[14:40:00] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: agreed
[14:40:01] <Foxandxss> for me is more of "what webpack can do for you" than something to start with
[14:40:21] <Foxandxss> I personally maintain my own stack (https://github.com/preboot/angular2-webpack)
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[14:40:32] <Foxandxss> but the CLI is soon to catch us up and will be awesome
[14:41:06] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: awesome how? just creating components seems light to me, are there other benefits?
[14:41:20] <Foxandxss> it covers the entire lifecycle of an app
[14:41:25] <Foxandxss> creating it, developing it, deploying it
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[14:44:58] <DocMika> Foxandxss: how can you "develop" with the webpack?
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[14:45:09] <Foxandxss> explain
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[14:46:06] <Elarcis> "the" webpack?
[14:46:19] <DocMika> yeah, webpack sorry
[14:46:24] <DocMika> bit sick here, hard to think
[14:46:28] <Foxandxss> still
[14:46:29] <Foxandxss> explain
[14:46:30] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: so...there'll be no need for webpack anymore?
[14:46:32] <DocMika> EXPLAAAAIN
[14:46:35] <Foxandxss> that sentence can mean lot of different things
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[14:46:42] <DocMika> well
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[14:46:54] <DocMika> you said one can create/develop/deploy with webpack
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[14:47:00] <DocMika> create I understand, deploy also
[14:47:19] <DocMika> but develop need one to write file with his own modules, so how can you do that with webpack?
[14:47:52] <cxz> I'm updating a list in an object, but it isn't reflected once the promise completes. It looks like this: '$scope.mylist[item] = data.item'. Ideas?
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[14:48:03] <Limarson> DocMika: As far as I saw, It'll create components etc. for you via command
[14:48:17] <cxz> Is it not possible to update a scope variable from inside a promise?
[14:48:20] <Elarcis> DocMika: webpack provides an API you can use in your code
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[14:48:38] <DocMika> Elarcis: that will write my component
[14:48:39] <DocMika> ,
[14:48:42] <DocMika> ?$
[14:48:45] <Limarson> :D
[14:48:48] <Foxandxss> I got lost sorry
[14:48:59] <Foxandxss> Elarcis: new CLI will use webpack, not 100% sure but 95
[14:49:18] <Elarcis> DocMika: No, but that will allow you to define globals accessible in your code to know which environment you're running, and it also provides a require.context feature that's quite handy
[14:49:30] <DocMika> well, via CLI, can I create a component and import the things that component need and define it's properties etc?
[14:49:30] <Elarcis> DocMika: You're mixing Foxandxss's talk about angular CLI and webpack
[14:49:30] <DocMika> ha
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[14:49:35] <DocMika> yeah
[14:49:36] <DocMika> indeed
[14:49:49] <DocMika> I'm sick, it feels like drunk but I didn't get to drink alcohol
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[14:49:59] <DocMika> that's like the biggest scam of history
[14:50:44] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: ugh, I'll stay with having code coverage of transpiled JS for now
[14:51:02] <icebox> cxz: yes, you can... likely duriung the update you broke the reference :)
[14:51:37] <cxz> icebox: could you elaborate a bit? I'm trying to figure out where it went wrong
[14:53:21] <cxz> icebox: i'm using this inside $q.all([p1, p2]).then()
[14:53:25] <icebox> cxz: angular add automagically a watcher to the objects (or arrays) - and this is the reason not to use primitives, because the watcher is not added - if you change the reference, when you update the object (or array) the template is not update because it has the old reference
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[14:53:46] <icebox> cxz: Two way data binding pitfalls http://plnkr.co/edit/7anGLMoJZgMkJFX9d9IA?p=preview
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[15:01:58] <Elarcis> The phone rings. 'Hi, I'd like to confirm your appointment fo'-click. That moment when you can recognize spam the instant they didn't start by introducing themselves :D
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[15:05:45] <Elarcis> Foxandxss: you were right, istanbul is a pita
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[15:17:36] <CoderAbsolute> Am starting a new project, it should be in the product by end of 2016. Am not an expert in JS (Backend guy), should I start with Angular 1.5 or 2?
[15:17:43] <dan2k3k4> hmm trying to pre-fill/populate a text input value, any idea?
[15:17:51] <dan2k3k4> ng-model?
[15:18:05] <CoderAbsolute> Am starting a new project, it should be in the production* by end of 2016. Am not an expert in JS (Backend guy), should I start with Angular 1.5 or 2?
[15:18:30] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: repeating the sentences doesn't help to be quicker :)
[15:19:10] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: 1.5
[15:19:36] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: https://toddmotto.com/rewriting-angular-styleguide-angular-2
[15:19:48] <CoderAbsolute> Am repeating because there was a typo Production*
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[15:21:08] <CoderAbsolute> icebox: I will stick with 1.5 and thanks for the link, it will be helpful.
[15:21:42] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: if you have any issues, we are here :)
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[15:22:06] <CoderAbsolute> Many thanks for the assurance! =)
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[15:23:06] <angrybacon> dan2k3k4 Yeah, set you ng-model to the value you wish
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[15:26:41] <CoderAbsolute> icebox: Wondering, do you have a startup template to get started based on a new style guide?
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[15:27:14] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: no... it is very recent... a few days old :)
[15:27:29] <CoderAbsolute> No worries...
[15:27:37] <DocMika> Elarcis: not the best time period to call istanbul a pita
[15:27:53] <Elarcis> DocMika: Oops
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[15:32:33] <prometh> is there anything wrong with `scope: { something:false }` ?
[15:32:46] <Elarcis> prometh: yes
[15:32:57] <prometh> such as?
[15:33:25] <Elarcis> prometh: such as scope is used to defined bindings and not default values, you should read the doc for angular components/directives
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[15:33:41] <prometh> there is no binding
[15:33:44] <prometh> it's just a true/false var
[15:33:52] <Elarcis> prometh: then don't use scope :D
[15:34:04] <prometh> how else can i use it with ng-class ?
[15:34:15] <Elarcis> scope: {} is used to link a scope variable to a HTML attribute
[15:34:22] <prometh> oh
[15:34:29] <Elarcis> prometh: if you need specific behavior, you need a controller
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[15:34:37] <angrybacon> Or a link
[15:34:37] <prometh> ok, tahnks
[15:34:41] <DocMika> if you only have a bool, shouldn't you use ng-if ?
[15:34:52] <Elarcis> prometh: if it is a constant, you don't really need a ngClass dependig on it :D
[15:35:01] <prometh> not a constant
[15:35:12] <prometh> `ng-class="{ valid: valid }"`
[15:35:15] <Elarcis> prometh: how are you intending to modify its value?
[15:35:19] <Elarcis> prometh: in the controller?
[15:35:23] <prometh> yeah
[15:35:34] <prometh> i need a model
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[15:35:37] <prometh> but i dunno if angular does that
[15:35:39] <Elarcis> prometh: if you're using $scope in your controller, just do $scope.something = false then
[15:35:40] <IvelfanFr> Hello everyone
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[15:35:52] <DocMika> salut IvelfanFr
[15:36:01] <prometh> Elarcis: i have a link function
[15:36:04] <Elarcis> prometh: if you're using vm = this; use vm.something = false instead
[15:36:12] <Elarcis> prometh: that shouldn't go in the link function
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[15:36:20] <prometh> i have a $watch
[15:36:33] <Elarcis> prometh: unless all code already is in it, in that case you're screwed because that's terrible design :D
[15:36:34] <prometh> and want to set a var for the template to use
[15:36:44] <Elarcis> prometh: I think we'll need you to share your code at this point :D
[15:36:50] <prometh> ok
[15:36:59] <IvelfanFr> I have a trouble with an HttpInterceptor. I check if I have network (it's a cordova application) and if I don't, i cancel the request : http://pastebin.com/YujsRCHM
[15:37:21] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: https://github.com/toddmotto/angular-styleguide/issues/75
[15:37:36] <IvelfanFr> It works well, but when I try to include "SVG" with ng-include, the request is canceled too !
[15:37:56] <DocMika> icebox: that link sends to a comment, is that normal?
[15:37:59] <IvelfanFr> All the request of ng-include on HTML file are sage.
[15:38:09] <IvelfanFr> safe*
[15:38:25] <CoderAbsolute> icebox: Thanks, am reading through the document. Looks like quite a bit of improvements I see that needs to be carefully implemented.
[15:38:27] <icebox> DocMika: that is an issue with only one comment
[15:38:30] <IvelfanFr> Do you have an idea with SVG request file are canceled but not HTML request file ?
[15:38:33] <prometh> Elarcis: http://pastebin.com/erAtR5aL
[15:38:41] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: as usual in js :)
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[15:39:20] <CoderAbsolute> JS guys like changes =)
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[15:39:58] <CoderAbsolute> Maybe, I should say improvements...
[15:40:00] <DocMika> they don't have choice
[15:40:24] <DocMika> icebox: yes, and that's why I don't really understand your share of the link :o
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[15:40:44] <IvelfanFr> That's my problem : http://pastebin.com/4x3dgkkk
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[15:41:02] <Elarcis> urgh prometh, you really should read the doc for angular form validation, and replace that link function with a proper controller
[15:41:26] <prometh> Elarcis: well, i need link to do this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31908934/angularjs-pass-all-attributes-on-a-directive-to-the-view
[15:41:31] <Elarcis> prometh: https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/forms
[15:41:56] <Elarcis> prometh: no you don't, use scope: {}
[15:42:09] <Elarcis> prometh: and a controller
[15:42:20] <prometh> Elarcis: that will copy bindings for ng-controller etc ?
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[15:43:11] <Elarcis> prometh: also don't use ng-controller. use a controller ihn your declaration of the directive. ng-controller at the root of a directive is considered bad practice by many
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[15:43:30] <Elarcis> (mainly because you get a lot more code to do simple things)
[15:43:32] <prometh> `<my-input ng-controller="asdf"/>` should become `<my-input><input ng-controller="asdf"></my-input>`
[15:43:37] <icebox> DocMika: CoderAbsolute asked for a seed project... the title of the issue is "any example source?"... the point is... there is not one yet and there is an issue pointing out that
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[15:43:52] <Elarcis> prometh: please, read the doc for angularjs directives
[15:44:03] <DocMika> icebox: ho okay. As you said it before, I was wondering if there was any added value in that link
[15:44:05] <Elarcis> prometh: this is all explained very well, it's a common task
[15:44:06] <prometh> what is wrong with using ng-controller ?
[15:44:45] <prometh> bad practice because?
[15:44:55] <icebox> DocMika: ok... the value is saving time to fill a new issue asking a seed... if you have any comment about the topic, that is the issue :)
[15:45:11] <Elarcis> prometh: ng-controller breaks the hard link between the view and the logic. the view only works if there's the right ng-controller, and your controller can't access properties of a directive, unless you use scope inheritance, which is also bad practice because it breaks everything even more
[15:45:41] <DocMika> icebox: no no sorry just trying to follow :) as stated I'm a bit sick today so I might be even less-than-usual able to think
[15:45:47] <prometh> how do you create reusable components if the controllers are always hard wired ?
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[15:45:50] <Elarcis> prometh: in a nutshell, there's a good way, and a bad way that forces you to do increasingly bad things until your code isn't anything more than a pile of random junk you can't maintain
[15:45:57] <icebox> DocMika: I see... no problem :P
[15:46:04] <DocMika> icebox: thanks :)
[15:46:20] <DocMika> Elarcis: that's MY way :D
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[15:47:05] <Elarcis> prometh: if the controller controls the view, do you think your component isn't reusable anymore? I for one think your controller isn't reusable, because it depends on its parent context to run properly
[15:47:13] <IvelfanFr> No one for my problem :) ?
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[15:47:32] <prometh> Elarcis: `<div ng-controller="ExampleController">` is on the page you linked me to
[15:47:32] <DocMika> IvelfanFr: sorry not my level
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[15:47:41] <IvelfanFr> Okay :)
[15:47:47] <IvelfanFr> DocMika: Thanks :)
[15:48:04] <Elarcis> prometh: defining a directive that has a controller and a template, meanwhile, should make it reusable, because everywhere you implement your directive, everything works without having a rogue controller includeable somewhere else that won't work because of missing parent scopes
[15:48:19] <Elarcis> prometh: yes, it's bad practice doesn't mean it's not documented
[15:48:20] <angrybacon> prometh If you need an entirely different behavior, you need another directive. Directives are reusable but to some extend, you should avoid writing superdirectives that do everything
[15:48:36] <angrybacon> extent*
[15:48:45] <DocMika> IvelfanFr: i actually spent time here only to see who's good, then I note nicks so I can search the log easily later to find good things
[15:48:52] <Elarcis> prometh: read this one instead, it should provide everwthing you need https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/component
[15:48:54] <icebox> DocMika: (maybe I was a bit zealous but the aim was giving up the quest of a seed, there is not one) :)
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[15:49:15] <DocMika> icebox: Yeah, you let your love for link sharing take you away :D
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[15:50:02] <prometh> nice.. i didn't know about component
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[15:52:02] <icebox> prometh: and the companion... https://toddmotto.com/exploring-the-angular-1-5-component-method/
[15:52:17] <prometh> thanks
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[15:52:43] <CoderAbsolute> Thanks for sharing the links!
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[15:52:56] <icebox> prometh: component is the state of art of angular 1 and it brings the framework (1.5.x) to a second life
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[15:54:29] <CoderAbsolute> Redux is adding a bit of complexity for me to get my head around...
[15:54:43] <Elarcis> prometh: but I agree with you, it's hard to know what's best and what's terrible in angularjs, luckily there is this IRC
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[15:55:45] <DocMika> Elarcis: mainly icebox is great and I am terrible
[15:55:48] <Elarcis> prometh: until now, the amount of code I've helped with respecting good practices... is approx. 10 lines :D
[15:56:15] <Elarcis> prometh: mostly because I believe people who respect good practice likely don't ask for much help here
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[15:56:42] <prometh> why not?
[15:56:46] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: agreed... it is not the same thing, but I recommend using ui router (vs the default ngRoute)
[15:57:09] <Elarcis> prometh: pure observation, since I have only help a very few cases of fine styled code :D
[15:57:14] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: ui router supports nested and multiple views https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router/wiki/Multiple-Named-Views
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[15:57:19] <CoderAbsolute> Yes, I have previously used ui-router and a bit familiar with it.
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[15:57:57] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: another big decision for the stack is the widget lib :)
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[15:58:28] <prometh> Elarcis: angular is not my first choice, but have no choice.... as a result, i know little about it and it's overly complicated
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[15:58:55] <CoderAbsolute> Noted icebox.
[15:59:03] <prometh> i try to go forward based on how the existing app has been writen
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[15:59:15] <Elarcis> prometh: usually like that when you begin with it, and only want to use the thing as few as necessary :D
[15:59:19] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: I think angular 1 fulfills classic SPA requirements... with reactive ones the patterns are a bit forced
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[15:59:32] <prometh> yes.. which is where component is very nice.. reminds me of ember or canjs
[16:00:08] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: if you stay with the classic patterns, it is ok... otherwise you are asking troubles in terms of hackish code or performance
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[16:01:04] <icebox> prometh: ember and canjs is totally another MVC family :)
[16:01:15] <CoderAbsolute> I think component based approach is not bad!
[16:01:24] <prometh> i know, but i'm more familiar with their syntax and component is now in angular
[16:02:07] <icebox> prometh: indeed there are three families: Ember, programmatic approach, Angular 1, html decoration, and Backbone, raw level
[16:02:23] <icebox> prometh: just a list https://mvstar.firebaseapp.com/ :)
[16:02:52] <prometh> angular 1 was a disaster
[16:03:04] <CoderAbsolute> I will try to keep the things very simple in this project. Will be starting with bootstrap, ui-router and ng-table..
[16:03:08] <icebox> prometh: disagree
[16:03:33] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: for the table... https://www.ag-grid.com/
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[16:05:12] <icebox> prometh: and the proof is component approach :) you cannot build something so powerful, if the foundations doesn't rock :)
[16:05:37] <prometh> component approach looks like sugar to me
[16:05:41] <Elarcis> prometh: components are totally a feature that was doable in angular 1, basically angular.component() is an angular.directive() call with some predefined parameters
[16:05:41] <CoderAbsolute> I may be building commercial software, hopefully people would buy and start using in the near future. =)
[16:06:07] <icebox> CoderAbsolute: cool
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[16:06:35] <CoderAbsolute> Startup craze, you know.. :)
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[16:07:28] <prometh> Elarcis: what if the rest of the app uses `ng-controller` ?
[16:07:34] <icebox> prometh: no, it isn't.. see lifecycle hooks https://toddmotto.com/angular-1-5-lifecycle-hooks
[16:07:35] <Elarcis> oops, wondered why I had a volumic mass of 125kg/m3, turns out I misconfigured the thing and used the function that computes the cost
[16:07:36] <prometh> can i still write a component that can accept it?
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[16:07:46] <Elarcis> (which proves the thing is the most modular thing ever)
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[16:08:23] <Elarcis> prometh: don't use ng-controller, and it shouldn't disrupt the rest of the app nor the internals of your component
[16:08:39] <prometh> i cannot rewrite the entire app
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[16:09:33] <prometh> oops... i've been saying `ng-controller` when i meant `ng-model`
[16:09:55] <icebox> rule 42: someone, before or after, pays the technical debt :)
[16:10:08] <prometh> i'm not paying it today
[16:10:30] <Pyrrhus> rule 43: ... rule 44: profit !
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[16:11:59] <prometh> today i'm taking out a loan ;)
[16:12:13] <prometh> or, no... paying an installment
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[16:16:16] <DocMika> I quit for today guyz
[16:16:24] <DocMika> if I don't connect tomorrow it's that I am dead sick
[16:16:27] <DocMika> so pray for me
[16:16:43] <DocMika> and laugh cause who f¨*cking get a cold in the last days of june -.-"
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[16:18:28] <Pyrrhus> prometh: so you´re a student then ;)
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[16:18:44] <prometh> one never ceases to be a student
[16:18:59] <prometh> student loan, mortgage, etc
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[16:19:05] <prometh> always learning new stuff
[16:19:23] <Pyrrhus> prometh: hehe, true.
[16:19:44] <prometh> and some people never stop drinking
[16:19:58] <Pyrrhus> sometimes I think that learning new stuff is the only really good part of this job. the rest just needs doing.
[16:20:22] <Pyrrhus> drinking is not optional, imho ;)
[16:20:24] <instant> hey is that ryt that don't make code so early in job ,take twice the time to make it and then give it to your boss otherwise he will make you a working robo :D
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[16:21:32] <angrybacon> instant The exact reason I read IRC at work
[16:21:45] <instant> lmao :D
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[16:22:07] <prometh> i turned myself into a working robo
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[16:22:13] <prometh> so many side projects
[16:22:38] <instant> so my sir is guiding me in a ryt way :D
[16:23:28] <senayar_> guys I have a question, when you do unit testing do your write your fakeObject inside a beforeEach or outside it ?
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[16:24:51] <prometh> Elarcis: how would i add a watch on a component?
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[16:25:07] <prometh> i need to watch for ng-valid/etc class names
[16:25:43] <Elarcis> prometh: you're not supposed to add watchers
[16:26:00] <prometh> cuz they're slow, i guess
[16:26:16] <Elarcis> prometh: ALSO, you're not supposed to watch ng-valid and such, because you need to look at the doc for angular form validation
[16:26:19] <prometh> but how else can i add "valid" to the <input>'s container ?
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[16:27:13] <Elarcis> prometh: no, because that's taking unimaginable pain to take a slight peek to the result of a feature provided by angular, when you can MUCH simply, much cleaner and much better directly use the feature
[16:27:27] <prometh> use what feature?
[16:27:31] <prometh> i'm talking about css class names
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[16:27:45] <Elarcis> prometh: what CSS class name are you talking about?
[16:28:00] <prometh> <input type=text class="ng-dirty ng-empty ng-invalid">
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[16:28:11] <prometh> i need to add those to the parent element
[16:28:15] <prometh> for styling
[16:28:18] <Elarcis> that is a class generated by angular when a form input is invalid. you can use form validation natively here waterPorosity: {
[16:28:18] <Elarcis> computed: false,
[16:28:18] <Elarcis> },
[16:28:18] <Elarcis> gasPermeability: {
[16:28:18] <Elarcis> computed: false,
[16:28:19] <Elarcis> },
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[16:28:21] <Elarcis> chlorideDiffusivity: {
[16:28:23] <Elarcis> computed: false,
[16:28:25] <Elarcis> },
[16:28:27] <Elarcis> carbonationDepth: {
[16:28:29] <Elarcis> computed: false,
[16:28:31] <Elarcis> }
[16:28:32] <prometh> careful
[16:28:33] <Elarcis> oops
[16:28:35] <prometh> yeah
[16:28:35] <Elarcis> https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/forms
[16:28:37] <Elarcis> this is the right thing, please ignore the sciencey stuff
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[16:29:03] <DieguezZ> hi, is it better to have the main $http.get resources (will load by default) inside $onInit, or outside it?
[16:29:26] <Elarcis> prometh: anyway, when you have ng-* classes added to components, that's merely the result of an angular feature that you can simply use, instead of relying on delayed information
[16:29:28] <prometh> Elarcis: what am i looking for on that page?
[16:29:34] <prometh> ah
[16:29:37] <prometh> which feature?
[16:29:57] <Elarcis> prometh: that, I don't know, like waiting for dust to appear on the cover of a book to deduce that your friend has finished reading it, instead of just asking them
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[16:30:14] <prometh> yeah, i do hate reading
[16:30:18] <Elarcis> prometh: Angular Form Validation
[16:30:42] <Elarcis> prometh: if you ask me what feature again, I swear I stop helping you right now :D
[16:30:53] <prometh> $validations ?
[16:30:59] <Elarcis> bvn,cbcxvnbhjbcfljkhb
[16:31:01] <Elarcis> prometh: https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/forms
[16:31:13] <prometh> $validators, rather
[16:31:13] <Elarcis> last help bit, sorry, you broke your contract
[16:31:19] <prometh> :) ok
[16:31:41] <Elarcis> also you clik on that link and read what's written, and stop guessing things without reading
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[16:34:13] <umdstu> i have an ng-if in my template that calls a function. The function in the controller is called ten times. but the controller is only loaded once. the ng-if is not inside of an ng-repeat either. any thoughts?
[16:34:51] <Pyrrhus> something is calling $apply ?
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[16:35:44] <Elarcis> umdstu: is that function a one-ime use, or is its return subject to change after controller initialization?
[16:35:49] <Elarcis> *one-time use
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[16:36:01] <umdstu> Pyrrhus: i’ll search around to check
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[16:36:05] <umdstu> Elarcis: one time
[16:36:09] <Elarcis> umdstu: like is the ng-if supposed to definitely hide or show the item, or will it change later?
[16:36:25] <umdstu> never change for that session
[16:36:38] <EuRoBosch> Guys, using ES6 classes in a service, how do I reflect the changes in the controller?
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[16:37:00] <Elarcis> add '::' before your call, then ng-if="::(myFunction())"
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[16:37:14] <prometh> Elarcis: i'm still not sure how to use existing $validators to craft custom class names... what event do i use?
[16:37:22] <Elarcis> umdstu: the ng-if will only be evaluated at most two times, and never again
[16:37:41] <Elarcis> prometh: last help bit, sorry, you broke your contract
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[16:38:21] <prometh> Elarcis: i think that you're misunderstanding my question ?
[16:38:35] <umdstu> Elarcis: :( still called ten times. or at least, the console.log() within the function is logged 10 times
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[16:39:05] <Elarcis> umdstu: weird. :: just removes the binding when it returns the same result twice in a row
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[16:39:44] <umdstu> i thought :: was to turn of two way binding
[16:39:48] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: umdstu: if something keeps $apply-ing, the ng-if is probably re-rendered.
[16:40:02] <Elarcis> umdstu: no, it turns on one-TIME binding, not one-way :P
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[16:40:10] <umdstu> gotcha
[16:40:29] <umdstu> ahh
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[16:40:39] <verwilst> hellooo
[16:40:58] <umdstu> well, no change. i’ll leave it, because it only needs binded once, but i will search for the $apply causing the issue
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[16:41:44] <verwilst> if i have a packages: Package[]; in a class, i guess i can add to it in the constructor through this.packages.push(new Package(...)); right?
[16:41:52] <verwilst> it says it can't do push on undefined..
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[16:42:43] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: only if you do packages: Package[] = [];
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[16:42:52] <Pyrrhus> (notice the initialization)
[16:42:55] <verwilst> oh..
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[16:43:51] <Pyrrhus> if you define the class property this way, it will always initalize, so the property will always exist. afaik.
[16:44:29] <EuRoBosch> ES 2015 & Services, need some help with classes
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[16:45:27] <Pyrrhus> EuRoBosch: read the question, but I don´t really understand it. have plunk ?
[16:45:42] <EuRoBosch> not yet but it’s simple:
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[16:46:01] <EuRoBosch> I have a service defined as a class with getItems method
[16:46:15] <EuRoBosch> I first call getItems() from controller and display the values
[16:46:45] <EuRoBosch> but in the meanwhile i change the Items in the Service (from controller2, let’s say)
[16:46:56] <EuRoBosch> how do they reflect back in controller1?
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[16:47:07] <umdstu> Pyrrhus: found it i think, by accident. ui-layout binds to mouse click, everytime i click the page anywhere, the function is called
[16:47:20] <Pyrrhus> if everything is 2-way bound, automatically ?
[16:47:40] <Pyrrhus> umdstu: ah, nice catch :)
[16:47:55] <EuRoBosch> meaning the $digest will call the getItems() method everytime I change something?
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[16:48:56] <Pyrrhus> EuRoBosch: no. if getItems returns references to the items that the service has, any change in the value will reflect in all controllers using the references vars.
[16:49:18] <Pyrrhus> if you use copies, it´s uncoupled, you´re sort of screwed.
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[16:50:30] <jak> For Angular2, when a Component's Input updates, is there something there an event in the component?
[16:50:59] <EuRoBosch> Pyrrhus: https://jsfiddle.net/yf9hs0k8/
[16:51:07] <jak> *"is there an event that fires in the component?"
[16:51:08] <Pyrrhus> jak: only if you also have defined an @Output (if I understand you correctly)
[16:51:24] <Pyrrhus> a corresponding @output, that is
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[16:52:32] <jak> Pyrrhus: say I have a component that takes a numeric input, adds to it, and sets a variable (?) used in the template
[16:52:45] <jak> if the parent component changes the value, does the whole chain just update?
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[16:53:13] <jak> I should just try it
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[16:53:28] <prometh> what does "@?" mean in a scope ?
[16:53:31] <Pyrrhus> EuRoBosch: I´m not sure, I think it should work. have you tried ?
[16:53:33] <EuRoBosch> Pyrrhus, when you have the time, take a look at the bottom of the fiddle, getItems()
[16:53:37] <EuRoBosch> nope :)
[16:53:37] <mani_> Hi can any one help to fire unload event to a controller
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[16:54:25] <EuRoBosch> Pyrrhus: and if I call the data from the API and I get a new array, then it will basically kill the reference, right?
[16:54:31] <mani_> I had used this $scope.$on('$destroy',function(){})
[16:54:53] <Pyrrhus> EuRoBosch: I´m about to pack it in for the day, so I can´t really assist you now... sorry
[16:55:13] <Pyrrhus> EuRoBosch: if the service keeps the array and constantly returns that, it should be a reference...
[16:55:19] <prometh> what's the difference between "@" and "@?" ?
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[16:57:49] <prometh> Elarcis: you haven't really helped me ewhit this, dude.. i read the damn page
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[16:58:41] <CoderAbsolute> https://toddmotto.com/stateless-angular-components/ <----- This is really a cool feature
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[17:00:29] <Elarcis> prometh: https://scotch.io/tutorials/angularjs-form-validation
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[17:02:47] <prometh> ok, so i have to use angular.element
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[17:03:48] <prometh> but still, you've led me astray
[17:04:10] <prometh> i wanted to know when angular change those values
[17:04:25] <EuRoBosch> question about ES6 classes, need some advice
[17:04:36] <CoderAbsolute> What's the best way to use for REST Api interaction for Angular 1.5?
[17:04:49] <prometh> or are you saying to do `ng-class="{ valid: -field.$valid }"` ?
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[17:05:26] <prometh> i can't use the field's name because i dont' know what it is
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[17:06:03] <EuRoBosch> how can I use ES6 model classes to pass data between controllers and services?
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[17:06:28] <prometh> Elarcis: do i need to pay you?
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[17:07:54] <prometh> Elarcis
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[17:08:07] <Limarson> Does anyone know how to get the current route fragment with Angular2 Router 3?
[17:09:05] <icfantv> Limarson: what are you trying to do?
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[17:09:56] <Limarson> icfantv: I have a route like /item/:type/:id and want to make a breadcrumb navigation, I thought it might be possible to get the fragments of the current routing to build that up
[17:10:18] <senayar_> mani_: if you need to destroy with $scope.$on in controller it will be need to be a directive or a component http://blog.thoughtram.io/angularjs/2016/03/29/exploring-angular-1.5-lifecycle-hooks.html
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[17:10:26] <icfantv> wait
[17:10:29] <icfantv> ng1 or ng2
[17:10:30] <icfantv> ?
[17:10:34] <senayar_> don't do DOM manipulation inside basic controller mani_
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[17:10:40] <Limarson> icfantv: I just found out that I'm able to get the url via Router-Component, so I will most likely parse it myself :)
[17:10:50] <icfantv> oh. ng2
[17:10:51] <Limarson> icfantv: Angular 2 Router 3-Alpha
[17:11:08] <prometh> icfantv: how can i write a component that can copy calss names from an validating form field to a parent element ?
[17:11:18] <Limarson> icfantv: just needed to migrate because I couldn't find the rc2-documentation anymore :D
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[17:11:28] <prometh> so, copy "ng-dirty ng-empty ng-invalid", etc
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[17:11:37] <prometh> as they change
[17:11:37] <icfantv> Limarson: the other thing you might be interested in is `routerLinkActive`
[17:11:42] <alzi_> how to find a alpha apache cruze?
[17:12:30] <Limarson> icfantv: I wasn't even thinking about that ;) But yes, I have to take care about this 2...later...
[17:12:31] <Limarson> :D
[17:12:43] <icfantv> Limarson: the docs releases have been behind a little. best to look at the source code and the spec test files to see
[17:12:46] <Elarcis> mani_: you can use $scope.$on('$destroy') in a controller. i.e.: to cancel intervals and timeouts, unregister events listener, etc. just don't use it for DOM manipulation, and don't trigger the $destroy event manually
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[17:13:37] <icfantv> prometh: the beauty of angular forms is that you don't have to - nested forms propagate that upwards to the top level form
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[17:13:50] <Elarcis> mani_: also please note that if you're using components, there are predefined functions that you can code to automagically hook to the lifecycle of your component
[17:14:06] <Limarson> icfantv: Will do, thank you very much :)
[17:14:10] <prometh> icfantv: i need it per field
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[17:14:25] <prometh> icfantv: http://pastebin.com/SAD1ij0j
[17:14:39] <icfantv> prometh: and you should be looking at form state, not specific class names. each form element (and the form as a whole) keep track of their state (touched, dirty, valid, etc…)
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[17:15:05] <icfantv> prometh: you get that for free as soon as you add a name attribute on your form field element
[17:15:29] <prometh> icfantv: this is for styling
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[17:15:52] <ronaldlanda> Hi all. I noticed something funny in Angular 2. I have a ngFor loop with a [ngForTrackBy]="customMethod". Within this customMethod I put a console.log(1). When I open the app, it logs the '1' to the console indefinately, up to 100.000 times, and then it crashes
[17:15:57] <icfantv> doesn't matter - the properties are there
[17:16:05] <icfantv> prometh: ^^
[17:16:31] <prometh> i don't know how to get them
[17:16:32] <prometh> http://pastebin.com/04yFuxqT
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[17:16:51] <ronaldlanda> The app doesn't crash, only the console, and when I take out the console.log it works fine. But it bothers me that this method is fired so many times
[17:16:52] <prometh> i cannot hardcode the name into the template as that can change
[17:17:09] <Elarcis> prometh: https://scotch.io/tutorials/angularjs-form-validation
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[17:17:16] <icfantv> you don't have to
[17:17:18] <prometh> Elarcis: you're annoying
[17:17:42] <icfantv> prometh: formName[formField].$valid, etc...
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[17:17:50] <Elarcis> prometh: ^
[17:17:56] <prometh> again, i cannot hardcode formname into a reuseable component
[17:18:24] <Elarcis> this.[formName][formField].$valid
[17:18:28] <Elarcis> this[formName][formField].$valid
[17:18:42] <prometh> where does formName come from?
[17:18:58] <prometh> i have to define that on the component tag ?
[17:19:01] <Elarcis> if you can't hardcode it, it's a parameter you gave to your component
[17:19:06] <prometh> that's bloating
[17:19:10] <prometh> there must be a better way
[17:19:15] <Elarcis> but you can totally hardcode a subform for that field
[17:19:21] <prometh> no
[17:19:24] <prometh> all sloppy solutions
[17:19:25] <Elarcis> because subforms are totally a thing
[17:19:27] <icfantv> prometh: is your label a separate component from your form field?
[17:19:40] <prometh> icfantv: it encapsulates the form field for styling purposes
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[17:20:15] <Elarcis> prometh: copying classes and trying to bend the framework the jQuery way isn't any better, but dynamic forms always come at a price
[17:20:18] <icfantv> prometh: you realize you're trying to do exactly what angular-formly does?
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[17:20:43] <ronaldlanda> Hi all. I noticed something funny in Angular 2. I have a ngFor loop with a [ngForTrackBy]="customMethod". Within this customMethod I put a console.log(1). When I open the app, it logs the '1' to the console indefinately, up to 100.000 times, and then the console crashes. When I take out the console.log it works fine, but it bothers me that this method is fired so many times.
[17:21:05] <prometh> icfantv: i need custom html structure.. i don't use `placeholder`
[17:21:47] <icfantv> prometh: i don't follow. angular-formly lets you write custom HTML templates - i do it all the time
[17:22:11] <Elarcis> (I devd a fully dynamic form engine in AngularJS, but I'm gonna pass on this, I'm clearly too tired)
[17:22:29] <prometh> i think that's over-complicating my problem.. all i need is a simple input component
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[17:22:43] <prometh> i don't[ need a whole system
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[17:23:15] <Elarcis> a simple *reusable, *dynamic-named input component *in a dynamic-named form, which isn't the same ;)
[17:23:31] <prometh> i'm sure there is a simple solution.. you're just a quitter
[17:23:57] <icfantv> prometh: insulting people is not really a good way to get help - just a thought
[17:23:58] <prometh> you just keep dropping urls that don't answer anything
[17:24:06] <prometh> he's been insulting me for the past little while
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[17:24:22] <icfantv> Elarcis: please behave or i'll ask a mod to intervene
[17:24:23] <Elarcis> prometh: no, we're giving you simple solutions, you're just waving them off because they're not fitting your definition of a fit solution in angular :)
[17:24:29] <Elarcis> :c
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[17:24:37] <prometh> i read the urls
[17:24:52] <prometh> and when i had questions, you just repeat the same urls
[17:24:55] <icfantv> Elarcis: i'm sure you mean well, but he asked you to stop
[17:24:55] <prometh> that does not help at all
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[17:25:28] <ronaldlanda> Hi all. I noticed something funny in Angular 2. I have a ngFor loop with a [ngForTrackBy]="customMethod". Within this customMethod I put a console.log(1). When I open the app, it logs the '1' to the console indefinately, up to 100.000 times, and then the console crashes. When I take out the console.log it works fine, but it bothers me that this method is fired so many times. Does anyone have any idea if this is normal behavi
[17:25:33] <prometh> i didn't actually ask him to stop, though
[17:25:48] <Elarcis> icfantv: I stopped giving him these links though, and I'm trying to tell him our solution not pleasing him doesn't mean our solution aren't adapted :/
[17:25:57] <icfantv> prometh: hang on, need to research something
[17:27:03] <Elarcis> also prometh, you need to define a precise functional scope. Why can't your field name be hardcoded in your template, since it's isolated in an InputComponent ?
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[17:27:23] <Elarcis> prometh: you can totally define an output attribute to your InputComponent so that you can make it reusable
[17:27:28] <prometh> <my-input name="firstName"/>
[17:27:36] <prometh> hmm
[17:27:37] <Elarcis> prometh: something like that yes
[17:29:16] <Elarcis> prometh: you can even imagine having <my-input name='firstName' ng-model='form.firstName' />
[17:29:20] <prometh> i'd rather not haev to use onUpdate()
[17:29:42] <prometh> `<button ng-click="$ctrl.onDelete({hero: $ctrl.hero})">Delete</button>`
[17:29:46] <Elarcis> prometh: and to go further, have that <my-input> in a ng-repeat so each property you need in an InputComponent is defined in an array and that's it
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[17:30:15] <prometh> it feels like beating around the bush with extra definitions
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[17:30:47] <icfantv> prometh: i'm assuming you don't want to use $compile?
[17:30:54] <Elarcis> prometh: it's factorisation, adding proxy-definitions so everything is written once in the end
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[17:31:10] <prometh> icfantv: i was originally going to do that, but then i came across component
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[17:31:39] <prometh> this will be the first part of the app not using regular directives
[17:31:45] <prometh> so i wanna nail it simply
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[17:32:05] <Elarcis> also icfantv I'm pretty pissed off at you, but I'm pretty pissed off in general today, so I guess my current behavior isn't the most appropriate, sorry 'bout that
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[17:32:36] <icfantv> Elarcis: um…..k
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[17:35:06] <prometh> i'm still not sure ewhat to do :S
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[17:35:22] <prometh> i'm bombarded with information
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[17:36:18] <icfantv> prometh: hang on, looking at some angular source code
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[17:36:25] <prometh> ok, thank you
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[17:39:48] <angrybacon> icfantv I would argue that helping too much is counter productive and is not helping (in the end), but yeah different people different ways :-)
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[17:41:18] <Elarcis> angrybacon: in the meantime, I wished my problems were so simple and well documented, because having exotic configuration issues make me think I'm a martian working on a decombubofibrilator
[17:41:30] <icfantv> angrybacon: oh, totally agreed. but we've not really helped prometh yet. we've told him to use a 3rd party library
[17:41:50] <Elarcis> icfantv: actually I didn't
[17:41:57] <icfantv> that that doesn't make sense unless you intend on using a bunch of the library
[17:42:05] <icfantv> Elarcis: the collective "we"
[17:42:36] <prometh> Elarcis: gave me links that didn't help.. then in the end suggested inputs and outputs
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[17:42:52] <prometh> i'm hoping there's something simpler
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[17:43:33] <icfantv> prometh: i don't see how you're going to make this work reliably in ng1 without either using the compile service or some gross DOM navigation in your directive controller
[17:43:38] <icfantv> (or linker function)
[17:43:40] <Elarcis> prometh: actually the second link I gave you explained how to access the validation properties of your form fields when you told icfantv you didn't know how to access them, but there's no need to come back on this since we're beyond that now
[17:44:04] <prometh> i don't have a field name
[17:44:20] <icfantv> prometh: but you can pass that in
[17:44:24] <icfantv> just like the form name
[17:44:33] <Elarcis> yeah, the thing is that in JS reflection allows dynamic names :)
[17:44:34] <prometh> `[{{$ctrl.name}}].$valid` ?
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[17:44:53] <icfantv> prometh: no, these are directive attributes you pass in
[17:45:09] <icfantv> formName: '@'
[17:45:10] <prometh> yes, i have `name: "@"`
[17:45:17] <icfantv> and fieldName: '@'
[17:45:22] <prometh> i don't want to pass formName, though
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[17:45:50] <icfantv> prometh: ok so you have two other options then: 1) use the $compile service, or 2) traverse the DOM
[17:46:07] <Elarcis> prometh: I think you're misunderstanding the nature of subforms. It's not a dirty hack you know, this can totally be done in your InputComponent :)
[17:46:09] <icfantv> the template for your directive encapsulates both the label element and the form field element
[17:46:28] <prometh> icfantv: yes
[17:46:38] <prometh> Elarcis: ok, but it looks gross
[17:46:38] <icfantv> Elarcis: are you suggesting wrapping each form field in an ng-form? ick....
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[17:47:07] <Elarcis> icfantv: we're very well wrapping a lot of directives inside others, that's not very different :D
[17:47:18] <icfantv> i know, but the overhead…..
[17:47:27] <armlesshobo> does the same-origin policy only refer to browsers?
[17:47:37] <armlesshobo> or are there other cases?
[17:47:44] <icfantv> prometh: honesly, i would just pass in the form and field name and not think twice
[17:47:54] <icfantv> it's the cleanest solution that still allows you to use 1.5 components
[17:48:00] <prometh> there must be a way wihtout the formname
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[17:48:17] <prometh> i do need the fieldname, though... at least, that's what the rest of the app has been doing
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[17:48:35] <icfantv> prometh: you could do an angular.element(…) to get the input element
[17:48:43] <icfantv> but that's equally gross
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[17:49:11] <prometh> we're talking about doing this in ng-class, right ?
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[17:49:38] <Elarcis> icfantv: when you've worked in ASP.NET where you can only have ONE form in your whole web page, so you make dirty JS hacks to simulate forms, nested forms in angularjs (like such http://www.angularjshub.com/examples/forms/nestedforms/) are a real pleasure :D
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[17:49:44] <icfantv> prometh: no. you first need to get the form field state - and that only lives on the form field or the wrapping form.
[17:49:54] <icfantv> prometh: once you have that, you can do what you want
[17:49:59] <prometh> icfantv: but what event do i use?
[17:50:05] <prometh> $onChanges didn't work
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[17:50:13] <icfantv> prometh: no events
[17:50:22] <prometh> i need these classes to change in realtime
[17:50:23] <icfantv> these are properties on the element
[17:50:26] <Elarcis> prometh: oh but hey, this can make a nice example of exploiting subforms, you just have to replace ng-bind with your my-input :D http://www.angularjshub.com/examples/forms/nestedforms/
[17:50:34] <icfantv> and i've never tried to retrieve an input element to see what properties it has
[17:50:36] <icfantv> one sec
[17:50:38] <Elarcis> *ng-include
[17:51:38] <prometh> quick question: what's the difference between "@" and "@?" ?
[17:51:42] <prometh> i couldn't find anyting with google
[17:52:10] <prometh> `bindings: { type: "@?" }`
[17:52:40] <icfantv> prometh: ? means optional
[17:52:50] <prometh> what is its value if undefined ?
[17:53:03] <prometh> or does it not even add it with an undefined value ?
[17:53:11] <icfantv> then the value in the component is undefined
[17:53:19] <angrybacon> prometh That right there, I truly believe this is the klind of thinfs you shouldn't ask
[17:53:28] <prometh> angrybacon: ...
[17:53:33] <icfantv> optional arguments require that you test for their existence, validity
[17:53:34] <angrybacon> prometh Just try it and see what happens :-)
[17:53:39] <prometh> if we skip out on defining `type`, it's still `undefiend`
[17:53:42] <prometh> so i don't see a difference
[17:53:59] <prometh> or does `has` not work with "?" ?
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[17:54:09] <icfantv> prometh: there's a reason the attrs argument is available on a component controller/linker function
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[17:54:51] <prometh> with "@" and `<my-input/>`, type will be `undefined`
[17:54:59] <prometh> with "@?", it's still undefined
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[17:56:06] <prometh> but anyway.. it's not important right now
[17:56:31] <icfantv> i don't think angular.element is going to work
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[17:56:38] <icfantv> unless you just retrieve the class names
[17:56:54] <prometh> but when are they retrieved ?
[17:57:17] <icfantv> you'd have to watch them for changes
[17:57:34] <prometh> yeah, that's what i was going to do
[17:57:40] <prometh> and Elarcis said that no one does that
[17:57:50] <icfantv> or angular.element(…).hasClass()
[17:58:03] <prometh> icfantv: yes, but when?
[17:58:10] <prometh> if we do that on link, it only happens once
[17:58:22] <prometh> when the state of the field changes, the classes are not updated because ther's no event... unless we use a watch
[17:58:51] <icfantv> prometh: depends, if you use ng-class and an expression then the digest cycle will force a re-evaluation of the expression
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[17:59:17] <prometh> can the expression contain an angular.element() ?
[17:59:18] <icfantv> if that expression is a function call that looks a the classes of an element, then it will happen automagically
[17:59:36] <icfantv> it can contain a function call
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[17:59:51] <prometh> cool, i'll try that
[17:59:56] <prometh> though, it's a lot of selector queries
[17:59:58] <prometh> (slower)
[17:59:58] <icfantv> the digest cycle will be triggered on each keypress inside the input element
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[18:00:10] <icfantv> prometh: yep - which is why you'd be better off using $compile
[18:00:29] <icfantv> actually
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[18:00:36] <icfantv> either way, it's going to be a watch
[18:00:52] <icfantv> the only difference is your code is cleaner
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[18:01:12] <prometh> compile is cleaner?
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[18:02:00] <prometh> what abouat $onChanges ?
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[18:02:19] <prometh> docs mentioned one-way binding changes... i guess that doesn't include user typing ?
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[18:02:23] <icfantv> is that a property on the input element?
[18:02:32] <prometh> the controller
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[18:03:00] <icfantv> i'm not using components because i'm just migrating my stuff to ng2
[18:03:09] <prometh> i already need to add dom event listeners for a "focus" state.. so i may just go with dom work
[18:03:11] <icfantv> i'm not migrating to components and then to ng2
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[18:03:23] <prometh> unfortunately, i'm not the lead engineer
[18:03:25] <icfantv> i'm only rewriting that shit once….not twice
[18:03:33] <prometh> they're sticking with ng1
[18:03:49] <prometh> if i were the lead, i wouldn't have gone with angular to begin with, but oh wel
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[18:17:48] <prometh> why is `.$postLink = function(){ console.log( $element.find('.child') ) }` empty?
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[18:18:33] <prometh> i see the element in web inspector
[18:18:42] <prometh> why is it not available on postLink ?
[18:18:46] <umdstu> Elarcis: well, those $apply’s dont’ appear to be the culprit for the initial 10 function calls on page load
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[18:19:24] <umdstu> Elarcis:
[18:19:31] <umdstu> just the subsequent ones
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[18:28:17] <prometh> :(
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[18:29:47] <umdstu> found it woo
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[18:30:27] <prometh> is there any reason why dom elements would not be accessible $postLink ?
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[18:30:57] <alzi_> no reason whatsoever man
[18:31:04] <prometh> even using angular.element('input') skips all of my component's inputs
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[18:31:23] <alzi_> will always do so
[18:31:33] <prometh> why?
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[18:32:14] <alzi_> i dunnow man
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[18:32:24] <prometh> so you're just spouting nonsense, then?
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[18:32:42] <alzi_> yeah
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[18:32:45] <prometh> k
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[18:33:21] <prometh> icfantv: can i pay you to help me figure out my retardedness?
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[18:34:06] <prometh> cuz i'm confused as fuck
[18:34:13] <umdstu> prometh: do you have any gists
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[18:35:37] <prometh> http://pastebin.com/N7Es4swp
[18:35:44] <prometh> umdstu: ^
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[18:41:50] <verwilst> {{ item[0]?.name }} < Shouldn't this work?
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[18:42:00] <verwilst> the name of the first element in an array
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[18:43:18] <umdstu> prometh: not seeing anything unusual, but i dont use components yet.
[18:43:28] <umdstu> do you have a plunkr that reproduces the behavior?
[18:43:45] <umdstu> verwilst: whats the ? for
[18:44:01] <verwilst> to only load it when the promise is fulfilled
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[18:44:09] <umdstu> interesting
[18:44:11] <umdstu> never used that
[18:44:31] <verwilst> item is fetched as a promise through http, so it's not always there when the page loads
[18:44:47] <umdstu> right
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[18:45:03] <umdstu> so what isn’t working
[18:45:06] <umdstu> it can’t access .name
[18:45:13] <umdstu> or it can’t access item[0]
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[18:47:25] <neredsenvy> https://dpaste.de/4BKN Why does my controller get loaded two times ? Like if I put a console.log('RUNS'); in base of my controller and look at console log in the browser I will get it outputed twice
[18:47:29] <umdstu> can anyone help me understand what about this causes my controller to be called multiple times? https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-layout/blob/master/src/ui-layout.js#L649
[18:48:01] <Bladesfist> I'm getting a typescript error from reflect-metadata (Angular 2) Build:Overload signatures must all be ambient or non-ambient. 19 of these coming from reflect-metadata.d.ts, I can resolve it by deleting the lib and adding it back again but the next time I load visual studio the typescript compile will fail again. Interestingly in-between restarts typescript will compile fine, anyone have any ideas?
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[18:54:29] <armlesshobo> neredsenvy: what does the template look like?
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[18:54:48] <armlesshobo> neredsenvy: nothing catches my eye in that module you pasted
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[18:55:48] <neredsenvy> Found the issue I was double initializing the controller once in tempalte once in router
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[18:56:14] <armlesshobo> that'll do it
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[18:56:40] <verwilst> umdstu: well, if i do {{ items }}, it shows [object Object], and in console i can see it has 1 item.
[18:57:04] <umdstu> json?
[18:57:08] <verwilst> doing {{ items[0] }} gives me TypeError: Cannot read property '0' of undefined
[18:57:22] <verwilst> well, i created an Item[] thing
[18:57:38] <verwilst> items: Item[];
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[18:59:29] <umdstu> what’s item[0] show?
[18:59:47] <verwilst> nothing
[18:59:50] <verwilst> only the error
[19:00:37] <Bladesfist> I figured out my typescript / visual studio compilation issue, because I can't access my node_modules location I have been copying them across to a lib folder, but that lib folder was not excluded in my tsconfig and visual studio was recompiling the lib on start and not again because it did not see a change
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[19:01:11] <umdstu> hmmm. idk
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[19:02:45] <nitro-n> hi all!
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[19:04:24] <Bladesfist> I dislike how the test setup shown here will throw errors by design https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/guide/testing.html. Anyone know of a better way of loading jasmine after systemjs has started running?
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[19:11:25] <Arf> upon reflection, i think that most of my struggle in trying to learn to code has been related to dependency reference problems. Anyone else have that?
[19:12:33] * Bladesfist is glad that learning to code was a very separate process to learning about magical binding craziness and dependency injection
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[19:18:21] <cagomez> with $http.get, having a successful callback is successful in that the GET request was served, right? Although the response data itself (the payload) could still not be useful
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[19:19:08] <deepy> I never succeeding in making an Android application because of how dependency works there
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[19:33:45] <Arf> i think everyone doing things differently and not being willing to give up their way is a big part of it. CommonJS, AMD, SystemJS, Webpack, nuget, npm, bower, blah blah blah
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[19:36:44] <Bladesfist> I know some of those words.
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[19:38:37] <prometh> am i missing something?: https://jsfiddle.net/prometh/pdamaxpm/
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[19:39:26] <prometh> Arf: commonjs+npm+browserify are good.. systemjs is good too
[19:39:29] <Arf> it sucks too because if you have a dependency reference problem, the whole app does not work and it keeps you from learning anything else
[19:39:43] <prometh> check out stealjs
[19:39:55] <prometh> it's built on systemjs and can load commonjs, amd and es6
[19:40:14] <Arf> i'm sure they're all good, but i don't need things to work awesome. i just need them to work at all
[19:41:00] <Arf> the stack is determined by which starter you use: angular-cli, angular2-seed, blah blah blah
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[19:42:19] <Arf> i'm curious what part of your total struggle in learning do dependency reference problems take up
[19:42:43] <prometh> like i said, use stealjs
[19:42:50] <kakashiAL> I am using webpack and angular2, everything works so far but moduleId: module.id and templateUrl doesnt work, it compiles and it finds module.id
[19:42:58] <kakashiAL> but only template: require() works
[19:43:21] <kakashiAL> is that normal because of webpack or do I have to do something special?
[19:44:01] <Arf> i appreciate your offer of solutions, but at the moment, i'm just curious about how typical my learning process is. are dependency reference problems the biggest hurdle for you?
[19:44:28] <prometh> i don't use ng2
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[19:44:34] <prometh> i'm forced to use ng1
[19:44:43] <prometh> and if i had my way, i'd use something else
[19:45:04] <Arf> nope, that doesn't answer my question either
[19:45:05] <prometh> something tiny and modular.. then use stealjs to avoid issues with other libs
[19:45:16] <prometh> to answer it, dependency reference is not a problem
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[19:46:03] <prometh> will someone help me, please?: https://jsfiddle.net/prometh/pdamaxpm/
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[19:47:03] <prometh> umdstu: ^^
[19:47:20] <Arf> weird. i was disconnected. now i'm back
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[19:49:25] <Arf> @prometh: the last comment of yours I read was "something tiny and modular.. then use stealjs to avoid issues with other libs"
[19:49:52] <prometh> "to answer it, dependency reference is not a problem [for me]"
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[19:50:16] <Arf> i envy that
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[19:51:31] <srish> hello
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[19:56:01] <prometh> someone fuckin help me, darnit: https://jsfiddle.net/prometh/pdamaxpm/
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[19:56:57] <sdsadsdsad> hello
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[19:58:22] <prometh> hello
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[20:00:23] <mrtAkdeniz> Howdy!
[20:00:31] <mrtAkdeniz> what is the proper way to send data between routes?
[20:00:48] <mrtAkdeniz> data is like a path, so i can't use routeparams
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[20:05:37] <arek> when will we get something like react-native for angular?
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[20:06:51] <immutable> i know there is nativescript, but to say the least its as completed as material2
[20:07:10] <immutable> and as serious
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[20:11:29] <Bladesfist> Will we ever get to a point where angular 2 is just one dependency. Manual setup is pretty painful.
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[20:14:07] <immutable> Bladesfist: unlikely but its still way better than angular 1
[20:15:58] <Bladesfist> immutable: it is? I have nearly 10 dependencies being loaded instead of just angular.js
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[20:16:21] <Bladesfist> granted a lot of that stuff is due to using es6 stuff
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[20:17:02] <immutable> Bladesfist: i use typsecript actually, some are webpack related too probably
[20:18:00] <Bladesfist> I'm mildly aware of webpack but am using Systemjs as it's all new to me
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[20:19:56] <prometh> hello?
[20:20:15] <prometh> why is my app not initiating?: https://jsfiddle.net/pdamaxpm/5/
[20:20:20] <immutable> Bladesfist: anyways ng2 is change for much better
[20:20:30] <prometh> https://jsfiddle.net/prometh/pdamaxpm/5/
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[20:21:52] <Bladesfist> immutable: yup, I'm sure it's just early learning pain but it does worry me a bit. When it all works it's awesome and I am enjoying the big structural changes over angular 1, it's really just the setup I take issue with.
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[20:23:08] <immutable> Bladesfist: i think You are not alone here, tooling has always been a pain, but i think its worthwile
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[20:23:23] <immutable> except after webpack there soon comes something else
[20:23:42] <immutable> Bladesfist: thats irritating a bit seen quite a few already
[20:24:20] <Bladesfist> I'm integrating with visual studio and .net core which makes a few things trickier
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[20:24:55] <Bladesfist> and by a few things I really just mean anything node related
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[20:28:32] <immutable> Bladesfist: node is cool, though i prefer vert.x
[20:28:51] <jason__> does anyone know a good resource to look at if i'm going to make a like counter on a web site?
[20:29:39] <Bladesfist> immutable: I've not heard of most of these things, I'm a Microsoft stack guy diving into the open source world.
[20:29:51] <NomadJim> do I need to learn angular 1 if I'm starting angular? Or can I just go all 2
[20:30:04] <NomadJim> I'm about 3/4 through tour of heroes
[20:30:17] <jason__> you could go straight into 2 if that's what you want to learn
[20:30:23] <jason__> they are quite a bit different
[20:30:30] <NomadJim> I'm looking to be making web apps for people with it
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[20:30:51] <NomadJim> is angular 1 going to be something I won't be able to modify for people
[20:30:56] <NomadJim> if I just learn angular 2?
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[20:31:20] <jason__> if you're making the web apps you can just do 2, if you are trying to work in an already developed web app thats in angular 1
[20:31:23] <jason__> you might want to know it
[20:31:32] <NomadJim> roger
[20:32:40] <Bladesfist> AFAIK angular 2 is not backwards compatible so if you had any angular 1 tools in mind they probably wont work in angular 2 until they are ported across
[20:33:07] <Bladesfist> On that note, are their any decent ui-grid alternatives for angular 2?
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[20:34:46] <Bent0> Could someone help me with date stuff please? Look at this example: https://plnkr.co/edit/SGa2xy7M2OuFYOVkeuYe?p=preview
[20:35:32] <Bent0> Im in GMT +2 right now. When I select today the 30th the time is converted back to UTC and 2 hours is subtracted from the time (which is midnight as you only select the date) and then it thinks its yesterday
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[20:48:08] <gho5t> I want to create some custom validation on my input
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[20:48:34] <gho5t> can I have a function trigger myField.$error = to be true and set a message to show up in ng-messages
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[20:52:09] <prometh> something like this.$validators.$error = function(){}
[20:52:26] <prometh> about all i know at this point
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[20:53:10] <NomadJim> any of you guys use angular 2 with djangO?
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[21:01:44] <asd> asd
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[21:02:57] <mst> asd!
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[21:07:49] <Foxandxss> RC 4 is out, enjoy
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[21:08:41] <omenius> whee
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[21:09:06] <pLaToOn> moin
[21:09:25] <Bladesfist> are there release notes somewhere?
[21:10:01] <Bladesfist> ah found them if anyone else needs a link https://github.com/angular/angular/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md
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[21:14:02] <NomadJim> didn't know it was still in RC stage
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[21:22:02] <cagomez> what exactly is in the data property of $http.get? when I return a string like "cat" from my ASP.net controller, ng-repeat of results prints every letter on a new line. is "data" an array?
[21:22:37] <immutable> cagomez: depends
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[21:25:26] <pippo> hello, I have a question...I'm using ui.router and I have a state with this url: url: '/engagement/{value}'
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[21:25:57] <pippo> if I reload the state from url it don't refresh the page
[21:26:01] <pippo> why?
[21:26:04] <pippo> thanks
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[21:27:49] <NomadJim> I was just doing https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/tutorial/toh-pt3.html and had a typo in hero-detail.component.ts where I had *ngIf="Hero" instead of *ngIf="hero"
[21:27:59] <NomadJim> is there a way to debug that and see an error message?
[21:28:10] <NomadJim> Like error Hero does not exist
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[21:32:32] <Foxandxss> it doesn't complain?
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[21:37:02] <NomadJim> It just says the file changed and then a bunch of 200 and 304s https://gist.github.com/TheJimFactor/afe5eeaf77bb4df8f920574b12d36300
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[21:37:15] <NomadJim> When I put the typo back in
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[21:38:33] <Bladesfist> any runtime errors in the browser?
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[21:44:54] <NomadJim> I'll check after I finish up the services tutorial
[21:45:07] <NomadJim> in a broken state atm
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[21:45:43] <gho5t> haven't touched ngModel in a while and as usual I'm confused
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[21:45:57] <gho5t> do I use $modelValue when accessing the value in my directive?
[21:46:09] <nate_> Can someone tell me how to fix this: "Error: Unexpected request: GET todo/todo.html" ``` // data.service.js (function(){ 'use strict'; function dataService($http){ var service = { getTodos: getTodos, }; return service; function getTodos(cb){ return $http.get('/api/todos').then(cb); } dataService.$inject = ['$http', '$q']; angular.module('app').factory('dataService', dataService); })(); //data.service.spec.js
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[21:46:55] <wonder95> did I win?
[21:46:56] <wonder95> oops wrong window
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[21:59:10] <NomadJim> Bladesfist: nothing in the browser
[21:59:23] <NomadJim> looked in chrome and firefox console for js errors
[21:59:26] <gho5t> hey when using Date().toLocaleString(), what do I need to do to get it to look like I'm in the UK on Windows to test this?
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[22:00:15] <NomadJim> wow trippy, my firefox browsers actions are picked up in chrome
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[22:03:40] <cagomez> I'm using ASP.net for the backend and made a web api. Should I be parsing the QueryString in Angular or just send a GET request with the whole URL and parse it in my Web API controller?
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[22:04:27] <armlesshobo> cagomez: i would go with the latter
[22:05:27] <cagomez> armlesshobo: right now I use $http.get('api/ticker/' + tickerSymbol) , how would I reference the local machine? eg perform a GET on the full URL
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[22:07:05] <armlesshobo> set it in the Host field?
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[22:07:51] <armlesshobo> Host: your.machine.com
[22:08:21] <armlesshobo> or you can put the full URL before "/api/ticker/"
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[22:09:02] <cagomez> is there some portable way to do that? I don't know where it will end up being hosted
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[22:10:32] <armlesshobo> I'm not sure if you need the full URL
[22:10:38] <armlesshobo> I feel like the browser would put it in place for you
[22:11:06] * armlesshobo is a total noob to this
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[22:11:14] <armlesshobo> that's my official disclaimer
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[22:42:03] <NomadJim> what database is most common with angular apps?
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[22:42:54] <immutable> NomadJim: :)
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[22:46:22] <angili> Hello. I would like to set a class with ng-class. How can I write a condition AND a function in ng-class? I would like to have "{true: 'enabled', false: 'disabled disabled'}[current.isActive]" AND "isValid()" in ng-class and I don't know how to combine them.
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[22:49:23] <prometh> https://jsfiddle.net/prometh/hrr6zank/ please help
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[22:49:59] <prometh> angili: your code confuses me
[22:50:45] <prometh> but i think that you're trying to do `ng-class="{ 'disabled': current.isActive && isValid() }"`
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[22:53:52] <prometh> HELLO? ANYONE?
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[23:12:42] <NomadJim> Is this solution still legit for a broken router error - https://github.com/angular/angular/issues/9344
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[23:12:51] <NomadJim> npm install @angular/router at 3 dot 0.0-alpha.7 --save // will install the latest router
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[23:14:35] <NomadJim> nm doesn't work
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[23:29:26] <Arf> it would be cool if there were a panel above this one with one row per unresolved problem of someone in the chatroom. that way, the attention one gets is not determined by the pace of other people's conversations that push his request off the screen
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[23:45:03] <prometh> indeed
[23:45:18] <prometh> i ended up getting help in ##javascript
[23:45:23] <prometh> it's a much more active channel than this one
[23:45:31] <prometh> this one is probably full of n00bs
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[23:52:42] <Arf> thanks. i'll give that a try
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