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[00:03:52] <nomoney4me> hi all, i am having problem with cross-origin $http call. it seems that it wants jsonp method rather than get/post. But with JSONP, I am getting Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token. Can anyone help?
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[00:12:19] <peabnuts123> Wow this is a large channel!
[00:12:38] <peabnuts123> Howdy all
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[00:14:50] <peabnuts123> building angular.js; 'grunt package' tells me my dependencies are "stale" ... is this any kind of unusual issue? Seems to build okay otherwise
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[00:27:21] <nomoney4me> can anyone help me with this CORS issue with http?
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[00:36:54] <happyhappy> Someone please help me out with this one...thanks.
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[00:37:18] <happyhappy> If i have a model and a few different ng-views that depend on this model...
[00:37:38] <happyhappy> how do i make sure that changes to the model propagate to all the views tied to it?
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[00:45:13] <nomoney4me> happyhappy, you probably will have to either have the same controller for all the scopes or have a service that stores that data
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[00:50:38] <oste> would offer a substantial bounty for this one if i could https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router/issues/2837
[00:50:58] <oste> seems that parallel states like this are not possible with new v1 router :(
[00:51:04] <oste> ui-router
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[00:52:10] <zomg> I thought the new router was supposed to solve parallel states etc.
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[00:53:06] <oste> one would think because it is such a common use case
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[00:53:37] <oste> check out the plunker http://plnkr.co/edit/wAtuqUf3KEL3CNRUt9gb?p=preview
[00:54:12] <oste> its very close by returning false in the onEnter
[00:54:30] <oste> only thing it is missing is actually updating the url to ‘/parallel'
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[00:54:46] <oste> maybe i just need to do that manually somehow
[00:54:57] <peabnuts123> back
[00:55:16] <happyhappy> nomoney4me, maybe im just reiterating...but this is the way i learn....so, if all the views are under the same scope, and the scope has a model that is updated...those changes will propagate to each view under that scope?
[00:55:59] <nomoney4me> yes
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[00:56:15] <happyhappy> nomoney4me, im not at the service part yet. im a noob to angular...not to coding. so ill try what you said first. and see if that works. thanks. :)
[00:56:40] <nomoney4me> np
[00:56:47] <peabnuts123> I posted on here earlier... grunt package is saying my dependencies are "stale". Seems to build okay, but is this anything unusual?
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[01:12:46] <w3bcrawler> does anyone here use angular-ui-router? i don't see the advantage it provides - the only difference i've seen is that instead of using $routeProvider, I use $stateProvider, and rather than use .when() i use use .state().. seems to have all the same parameteres.. url, templateUrl, controller, etc
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[01:13:53] <nomoney4me> multiview is what i use it for
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[01:15:20] <w3bcrawler> nomoney4me: so for having views within views?
[01:15:25] <nomoney4me> yup
[01:15:46] <w3bcrawler> i've been just using ng-include inside the HTML file specified in templateUrl, is that bad?
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[01:16:26] <nomoney4me> for example my index has the home view. then nav bar has ui-sref to the different view. in each of those routes, there are other views
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[01:16:37] <w3bcrawler> ie <div ng-include='"/templates/footer.html"'></div>
[01:17:10] <nomoney4me> idk what the best practice is, but what works for me was <div ui-view></div>
[01:17:23] <nomoney4me> i have a routes.js which has templateUrl for each state
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[01:17:39] <nomoney4me> which controls the ui-view based on the state
[01:17:45] <w3bcrawler> hmm
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[01:18:43] <nomoney4me> w3bcrawler, http://pastebin.com/Ec1efUN5
[01:18:48] <nomoney4me> heres an example of the routes.js
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[01:20:37] <nomoney4me> thats a basic route. a more complex route is something like this: http://pastebin.com/GUpmSX0u
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[01:23:50] <w3bcrawler> ok.. so within the state system, i could for instance have a controller for the whole page itself, and within that page, perhaps a controller for the navbar and another controller for the side panel
[01:24:18] <w3bcrawler> (if i understand correctly)
[01:25:03] <nomoney4me> you could potentially have a shared controller by not assigning anything, like what i did. or you can specifically tell it to have its own controller.
[01:25:45] <nomoney4me> just have to be careful with the inheritance when you're dealing with specific scopes
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[01:33:03] <HookerJuggernaut> what is the difference between using $scope and varname = this?
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[02:45:09] <Qorpus> so I have a question, im using ng-model, with the appropriate dot notation i.e. ng-model="data.myValue" -- but I can't reference it with $scope, they are using the came controller as well
[02:45:41] <Qorpus> also, i found it odd, that I can't reference it in the ng-click of a few buttons in the same sort of space
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[02:47:38] <Qorpus> I would expect it to be available as - $scope.data.myValue
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[03:07:32] <canolucas> hi, I'm running some code that implements a rest api, both the client and the server using angular2 + express.js. for the interface to start, I run from the command line 'npm start' at the project root directory. for the server to start running i use 'cd app' and then 'node express.js'. is there a way to start the server and client at the same time when running 'npm start' at the project's root directory ?
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[03:07:40] <canolucas> here is the code in case you want to check it out: https://github.com/canolucas/rest-api
[03:07:49] <canolucas> thanks in advance !
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[03:09:38] <xochilpili> hi all
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[03:10:12] <xochilpili> i have some issues with uib-typeahead i got [filter:notarray] but i got an array !!
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[03:14:35] <xochilpili> solved
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[03:17:41] <explore> hi guys, i am reading Adam Freeman’s book on AngularJS, I have only started but I find it a very good book. Having said that, I just want to ask if there are even better books out there I should buy. I like books that explains “so what” or “why”, not just regurgitate APIs. Do you think there are even better books out there? Thanks man for any help.
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[03:20:56] <Qorpus> so to answer my own question
[03:21:17] <Qorpus> I was using ng-repeat to generate the <li> with the ng-click's
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[03:21:32] <Qorpus> so I just have to reference the parent scope ($parent)
[03:21:40] <Qorpus> to access the model
[03:21:43] <Qorpus> easy!
[03:21:51] <Qorpus> only took me like 5 hours :(
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[04:26:08] <enri> hi, anyone has a good tutorial for best practices for organizing an angular app in mean stack? I want to refactor my code but have not found a good tutorial/video to do so.
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[04:30:37] <Darken-> in "mean stack" ?
[04:31:29] <enri> <darken> yes. MEAN stack
[04:31:45] <explore> Darken- doesn’t know what’s MEAN stack lol
[04:31:52] <explore> google it
[04:32:18] <enri> explore - any ideas?
[04:32:45] <enri> I found this link: https://scotch.io/tutorials/angularjs-best-practices-directory-structure
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[04:33:10] <enri> not quite sure if this is legit.
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[04:33:39] <Darken-> mean stack is the equal of hipsters online , i see
[04:34:16] <enri> darken - MEAN = Mongo, Express, Angular, Nodejs
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[04:36:57] <explore> Darken-: i see, you are not just ignorant, you are a dickhead
[04:38:40] <cuppy> Hahaha - It's good to be back on IRC
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[05:13:52] <explore> guys would you ever want to make websites without AngularJS? :)
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[05:15:57] <cuppy> explore, yes
[05:16:06] <Darken-> do you always need a size 12mm socket to make a car?
[05:16:10] <Darken-> that's a dumb question
[05:16:17] <Darken-> use the right tool for the right job
[05:16:25] <Darken-> only amateurs try to use 1 tool for every job
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[05:17:59] <Darken-> also explore, if I am the asshole, then you are always going to be the idiot and I'd rather be an asshole than an idiot
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[05:18:08] <Darken-> to answer your statement earlier
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[05:36:16] <sahbeewah> what would cause $stateParams to be out of sync with the query parameters
[05:36:21] <sahbeewah> for ui-router
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[06:02:37] <iateadonut> PEAN!
[06:02:54] <iateadonut> i'm cooler than a hipster with my PEAN stack
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[06:04:04] <iateadonut> i have a problem. i have a checkbox - ng-model=t ng-false-value="0" ng-true-value="1"
[06:04:32] <iateadonut> doing $scope.t = 1; checks the box on my localhost, but for some reason, it doesn't work when i upload it to a server.
[06:05:04] <iateadonut> (be back after i make a plunker)
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[06:08:38] <boneskull> anyone have decent knowledge about karma's guts? trying to figure out why all of a sudden it's pulling in a socket.io that uses UInt8Array
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[06:26:11] <iateadonut> this plunkr doesn't work: http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS?p=preview
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[06:26:51] <iateadonut> at least for me it shows: Hello {{foo.bar}}! instead of hello world
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[06:31:13] <iateadonut> you need a 12mm socket to do anything because it's a good luck charm
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[06:33:49] <iateadonut> http://jsfiddle.net/Lvc0u55v/6182/
[06:34:18] <iateadonut> here if i set $scope.t to 1, it does not update the checkbox, but if i click the checkbox it updates $scope.t
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[06:44:22] <iateadonut> i had to add this: ng-checked='t == 1'
[06:44:34] <iateadonut> to the checkbox. strange that it works on my localhost though
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[06:51:10] <Darken-> put it in a plunker
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[07:11:50] <ron_frown> anyone alive? should ng model options updateOn: blur work on a input type number
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[07:19:59] <Frenchiie> hey guys, i'm trying to have my backend(django) serve the javascript files from the angular2 tutorial but when the html page gets loaded along with main.js, things like app.component.js cant be found because the browser is trying to fetch without the .js extension
[07:20:04] <Frenchiie> how the heck do i fix this
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[07:27:35] <Frenchiie> wish this channel was more active :/
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[07:27:54] <Frenchiie> i can never find help here it seems :(
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[07:43:18] <Spot__> Frenchiie: Try the Webpack guide from angular.io :)
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[07:44:34] <Frenchiie> i was using webpack before but it was too complex for my liking...
[07:44:44] <Frenchiie> i just wanted to use basic npm
[07:45:01] <Frenchiie> and then have the js version of my ts files to be served by the backend.
[07:45:07] <Frenchiie> but my god the difficulty.
[07:45:22] <Frenchiie> even running the angular2 tutorial is a nightmare
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[07:45:36] <Frenchiie> nothing but errors after errors
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[07:48:50] <Spot__> Frenchiie: It is possible to get SystemJS working. It finds the .js files when the extension has been specified. You have to define, however, the default path for the files.
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[07:50:10] <Spot__> Frenchiie: Generally I have found SystemJS something that doesn't work well in production (we had customer campaign with SystemJS and load times averaged from 5sec to 2min).
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[07:51:15] <Spot__> For plunks systemjs is good :)
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[07:51:29] <Spot__> As well as rapid prototyping
[07:51:33] <ab_> hey
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[07:51:45] <ab_> every one
[07:51:49] <Spot__> But also webpack-dev-server rocks good :)
[07:51:50] <ab_> i need help
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[07:52:06] <Guest41758> what
[07:52:16] <Guest41758> i ab unable to understand
[07:52:22] <Guest41758> what u said
[07:52:24] <Frenchiie> Spot__: do you have a link to a basic starter kit?
[07:52:34] <Guest41758> ??
[07:52:39] <Guest41758> he bravos
[07:52:45] <Guest41758> can anyone help me
[07:53:00] <Frenchiie> Spot__: like loads all the basic angular2 things that i would need, lets me do webpack build and then i can just drag my js files to my backend
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[07:53:24] <Frenchiie> Spot__: the one i was using was part of this other tutorial and it came quite complex
[07:53:42] <Frenchiie> which was the reason why i wanted to start over using only npm
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[07:58:49] <Spot__> Frenchiee: I've done usually systemjs stuff in plunker, and it works right off like that when putting it to any backend.
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[07:59:59] <Guest23175> :o
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[08:00:31] <Spot__> Frenchiee: You could take for example https://angular.io/resources/live-examples/quickstart/ts/plnkr.html and if you just put it to the Django side it should work as is
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[08:02:33] <Spot__> Frenchiee: The usual problems are on systemjs.config.js (yes, it's nowadays as complex as Webpack config...)
[08:03:32] <Spot__> Frenchiee: Basically the "packages" object sets the default types, in another words you don't have to specify then the extension (I know you use already transpiled stuff with ".js" -extension, but that example uses ".ts" files as is).
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[08:07:25] <soee_> where would you guys pyt some small helper functions ? in some shared factory ?
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[08:15:39] <Nagen> hi
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[08:16:59] <Nagen> i am using var request = $http({ method: "get", url: url, headers: { 'Content-Type': 'application/json' } });
[08:17:23] <Nagen> for hybrid mobile application
[08:17:33] <Nagen> for IOS
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[08:18:10] <Nagen> Apps are reviewed on an IPv6 network. Please ensure that your app supports IPv6 networks, as IPv6 compatibility is required.
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[08:18:47] <Nagen> can anyone help me
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[08:19:01] <DocMika> hi all
[08:19:08] <Nagen> hiii
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[08:19:25] <Nagen> i have an issue can anyone help me out >????
[08:19:46] <DocMika> don't ask to ask
[08:19:53] <DocMika> tell your issue and if someone can help you he will
[08:20:05] <Nagen> oky
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[08:21:54] <DocMika> ho no icebox today
[08:21:56] <DocMika> rare
[08:22:19] <Nagen> i hav done one Hybrid apps using Ionic & Angular JS. and using $http for webservice call . But Apple review team rejected my release with the following error "Apps are reviewed on an IPv6 network. Please ensure that your app supports IPv6 networks, as IPv6 compatibility is required."
[08:23:36] <DocMika> THat doesn't look like an angular problem, it might not be the good place to ask
[08:24:01] <DocMika> I am totally unable to help you, but you might ask again a bit later , some people coming here are very good and might know what your problem is
[08:24:38] <Nagen> Thanks DocMika
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[08:24:57] <DocMika> was your app accepted before you added $http?
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[08:25:21] <DocMika> cause as far as I've read on IPv6, this is related to the protocol
[08:25:51] <Nagen> yes, this was working fine before June 1st
[08:26:45] <DocMika> Yes, but that's the date Apple started to support only Ipv6, so it might be that your app already wasn't compliant to that
[08:27:17] <Nagen> yes, u r correct
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[08:30:32] <DocMika> Do you know anything about that IPv6? cause I only read a few lines right now on wikipedia :D
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[08:33:03] <robot_> hi
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[08:33:29] <Nagen> As per my knowledge , in native ios it can be solve by using NSURLSession and CFNetwork APIs , but its the hybrid and i am using $http service to access any Webservice
[08:33:57] <Nagen> NSURLSession and CFNetwork APIs by-default support ipv6
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[08:34:26] <DocMika> I never worked with Ios, precisely for those kind of reasons ^^"
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[08:35:19] <Nagen> No issue DocMika, Thanks for your conversation
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[08:35:50] <DocMika> Nagen: ^-^ you are welcome. I suggest you find a chan specialised on apple dev, otherwise you might come here in half an hour, there are often people quite skilled at that time
[08:35:54] <icebox> Nagen: is there any ip address in the app?
[08:36:00] <DocMika> haaaaaa :D
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[08:36:34] <Nagen> yes
[08:36:40] <turion> hi
[08:37:05] <DocMika> plop turion
[08:37:08] <Nagen> i am using hard-coded IP addresse
[08:37:18] <turion> plop means?
[08:37:21] <DocMika> ( Nagen icebox is one of the badass I spoke of)
[08:37:26] <DocMika> turion: it's a greeting
[08:37:33] <turion> tnx :)
[08:37:35] <icebox> Nagen: that may be an issue
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[08:37:41] <Nagen> i think so
[08:37:49] <Nagen> then what i have to do ?
[08:37:52] <turion> foobar
[08:38:37] <icebox> Nagen: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/NetworkingInternetWeb/Conceptual/NetworkingOverview/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Transition/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Transition.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40010220-CH213-SW23
[08:39:21] <turion> why main() is made public?
[08:39:22] <icebox> DocMika: hey :)
[08:39:45] <DocMika> icebox: ;-) not often that I connect before you
[08:39:46] <Nagen> icebox:Thanks
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[08:39:52] <icebox> Nagen: you are welcome
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[08:40:46] <icebox> OT: d3 v4 is out :)
[08:40:59] <DocMika> heu
[08:41:15] <DocMika> I guess you are not speaking about diablo 3 but about the tool for graph?
[08:41:29] <icebox> DocMika: yep
[08:41:34] <turion> el diablo is an awesome car
[08:42:40] <DocMika> it's a car? ._.
[08:42:53] <DocMika> I thought el diablo was a mexican catcher of la Lucha Libre
[08:43:07] <DocMika> wrestler* catcher is the french word
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[08:44:42] <turion> yes made by lamborghini
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[08:46:01] * DocMika learns things everyday.
[08:47:21] <Mavericks> why is $scope.worldpollutant undefined in http://plnkr.co/edit/JMST9V4LLlXnFyaTWZWE?p=catalogue
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[08:47:48] <Mavericks> ng-selected looks good i think
[08:48:26] <turion> concentrate
[08:49:02] <DocMika> Mavericks: your last > is colored, so I'd say you have a problem with your quotes
[08:49:30] <DocMika> (that or my screen's resolution is very messy )
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[08:50:22] <turion> where is darken
[08:50:38] <turion> elimpse
[08:50:41] <Mavericks> spotted a mistake with assigning value in expression for ng-selected
[08:50:43] <Mavericks> still undefined
[08:51:00] <icebox> Mavericks: where is pollutants defined? what syntax is [pollutant.pollutant_id]]?
[08:51:22] <soee_> icebox: hi
[08:51:23] <turion> how to tag someone here?
[08:51:31] <icebox> turion: no way
[08:51:45] <icebox> soee_: hey
[08:51:48] <soee_> icebox: did you ever used this approach to define env configuration http://www.jvandemo.com/how-to-configure-your-angularjs-application-using-environment-variables/ ?
[08:52:07] <Mavericks> icebox: let me define it there in file. [[ after interpolation for {{
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[08:52:34] <icebox> soee_: no
[08:52:51] <icebox> Mavericks: ah ok... so that is not a working plunker
[08:53:07] <soee_> icebox: any other you can suggest?
[08:53:22] <DocMika> turion: you write their name
[08:53:31] <turion> yesterday someone did it
[08:53:50] <turion> docmika
[08:53:54] <icebox> Mavericks: providing not working plunker is not nice (without notice)... I spent a few minutes to investigate
[08:53:56] <turion> docmika:
[08:54:23] <DocMika> yes :) yes :) let IRC flow through you
[08:54:34] <icebox> soee_: if I don't use it, it doesn't mean it is not ok :)
[08:55:01] <Mavericks> icebox: will get working plunker and let you know
[08:56:37] <turion> :D
[08:56:51] <turion> anyone did core java here before js?
[08:57:08] <DocMika> I sometimes feel plnkr is the best debug tool ever, cause when you want to submit a problem and you have to reproduce it on plunker, you solve it half the time.
[08:57:16] <DocMika> turion: no, I'm beginning java :D
[08:57:27] <turion> lol me too
[08:57:33] <DocMika> and I know a bit of C#
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[08:57:51] <turion> i know c,c++
[08:58:17] <turion> do u declare main() in c#?
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[08:59:00] <icebox> turion: why?
[08:59:17] <icebox> turion: and I suppose there is java channel :)
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[08:59:41] <DocMika> turion: yes you do :)
[08:59:48] <DocMika> icebox: yes there is one but you must be invited to get in
[08:59:59] <DocMika> icebox: which is kinda hard since you can't know who's inside...
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[09:00:36] <arieluya> ?
[09:00:47] <DocMika> ,
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[09:00:57] <icebox> DocMika: no... you need to be registered in irc, not invited
[09:00:59] <arieluya> +2
[09:01:13] <arieluya> why not controllers in v1_
[09:01:18] <icebox> DocMika: I am in now
[09:01:23] <DocMika> #java Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited
[09:01:24] <DocMika> ahem
[09:01:40] <arieluya> ppl say better not to use
[09:01:54] <icebox> DocMika: are you logged in?
[09:02:32] <DocMika> That is an intriguing notion, as the people telling me yesterday to get "a proper client" without ever telling me what the fick that would mean
[09:02:42] <icebox> DocMika: you need to have a registered nick
[09:02:46] <DocMika> I have a nick, isn't that enough ?
[09:02:51] <icebox> DocMika: no
[09:02:53] <turion> docmika: what's its syntax?
[09:03:00] <DocMika> what is a "registered nick" ?
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[09:03:14] <arieluya> is this #irc-help?
[09:03:17] <registeredDocMik> I guess this isn't enough :D
[09:03:24] <turion> icebox: we are not bothering you,you can focus on ur ang :)
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[09:03:45] <icebox> DocMika: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
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[09:04:40] <turion> icebox: tell me that java channel
[09:04:41] <turion> :D
[09:04:48] <DocMika> "java
[09:04:54] <DocMika> #java sorry
[09:05:03] <turion> #java
[09:05:10] <turion> mmm
[09:05:16] <Gor_> Whats the JSON those 2 input fields produce, based on the code: <input id="user.plainPassword.first" name="user.plainPassword.first" class="form-control" type="password" ng-model="user.plainPassword.first" /> <input id="user.plainPassword.second" name="user.plainPassword.second" compare-to="user.plainPassword.first" class="form-control" type="password" ng-model="user.plainPassword.second" />
[09:05:21] <Gor_> ..and the code: $scope.submit = function () { var formData = { fos_user_registration_form: $scope.user };
[09:05:33] <turion> how to go there?
[09:05:34] <icebox> Gor_: never paste the code in the channel
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[09:05:53] <soee_> where aould you put some helper function ?
[09:06:01] <icebox> turion: you need to type "/join #java"
[09:06:08] <arieluya> what's a directive?
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[09:06:26] <turion> ok :)
[09:06:27] <arieluya> is there a way to do angular without the ugly html ng- stuff?
[09:06:29] <Gor_> icebox: where should i then paste it?
[09:06:39] <icebox> Gor_: paste service
[09:06:57] <turion> icebox nothing happened
[09:07:07] <arieluya> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14994391/thinking-in-angularjs-if-i-have-a-jquery-background
[09:07:10] <DocMika> turion look in status window
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[09:07:26] <DocMika> Gor_: try plnkr or pastie.org
[09:07:43] <turion> its saying u must be invited
[09:07:53] <icebox> turion: no... you need to register the nick!
[09:07:54] <turion> ma ki ankh inki
[09:08:07] <turion> how to do that
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[09:08:22] <icebox> turion: I published a link above (!)
[09:08:23] <DocMika> turion: read the link icebox pasted for me a few minutes before
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[09:08:40] <Mavericks> does this answer at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31051420/angularjs-select-option-value-as-default
[09:08:41] <Gor_> Here is the code: http://pastebin.com/USBJpMQ8 ...what does this produce as JSON? ...i dont use angular but would need to know the JSON this produces
[09:08:41] <Mavericks> is that still valid ?
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[09:10:07] <turion> ok":)
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[09:10:44] <arieluya> how to do a class toggle on a click?
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[09:12:32] <turion> how to change nick now
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[09:13:14] <icebox> turion: type "/nick" and "/msg NickServ identify <password>"
[09:13:42] <icebox> reading docs is out of fashion
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[09:15:54] <snappy_> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER snappy_ dtijklzcyeno
[09:16:27] <DocMika> hi snappy, thanks for your password, we really appreciate :D
[09:16:40] <snappy_> lol
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[09:17:58] <snappy_> what was that java command?
[09:18:09] <snappy_> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER snappy_ dtijklzcyeno
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[09:19:41] <icebox> snappy_: please, be aware about leading space in the command line... better executing commands in status window
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[09:19:58] <DocMika> icebox: he left
[09:20:38] <finfort> Hello guys, anybody here? Can someone help with this question? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38069590/how-can-i-use-angular-1-5-service
[09:21:04] <icebox> finfort: and what is the question?
[09:21:53] <icebox> finfort: Todd Motto's recent posts may help you with angular 1.5 and ES2015
[09:22:24] <icebox> finfort: about that SO... http://stackoverflow.com/help/mcve
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[09:24:14] <finfort> @icebox already read toddmotto's guide it's awesome, thanks for the link on stackoverflow
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[09:25:18] <zug_> Is there a better way to prevent multiple requests from firing than this pattern? : https://plnkr.co/edit/o1hmjVKlNzW30TYRdjYI?p=preview
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[09:26:14] <icebox> zug_: yep.. the point is not the subscription.. it is how you create the observable :)
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[09:27:09] <icebox> zug_: an hint... you need to use ".share()"
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[09:30:48] <soee_> when rendering user image i often have to render defautl image when there is no image set for profile. Is it good idea to write some code to be reused to do the check each all just use ng-if each time in template?
[09:30:57] <zug_> Ah, I've seen that before, that's from rxjs right?
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[09:31:21] <zug_> Thanks icebox, will look into it
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[09:33:21] <DocMika> yes zug_ observables are in rxjs for angular 2
[09:33:54] <DocMika> soee_: why don't you set a default image that is replaced if the user as a personal one,
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[09:34:33] <soee_> DocMika: how exactly ?
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[09:35:27] <icebox> soee_: giving a default value in the value?
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[09:35:54] <baba_> hi
[09:36:00] <icebox> soee_: focus on data, not on dom :)
[09:36:11] <icebox> soee_: (and you know that) :P
[09:36:15] <baba_> how to set new password for a registered account?
[09:36:17] <icebox> baba_: hey!
[09:36:32] <icebox> baba_: this is not irc support :)
[09:36:40] <baba_> lol
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[09:36:47] <icebox> baba_: read irc freenode docs :)
[09:36:58] <baba_> but please tell me if anyone can help
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[09:37:15] <soee_> icebox: atm. i have this in my component template http://pastebin.com/BK01CdSU
[09:37:18] <baba_> it won't take any long to write a single line
[09:37:57] <uru> baba_: https://superuser.com/questions/220245/how-do-i-register-a-nickname-on-freenode-s-irc-network-using-colloquy
[09:38:21] <uru> Should be more than enough information ;)
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[09:38:31] <baba_> ok uru :)
[09:38:34] <baba_> thanks :)
[09:39:09] <DocMika> soee_: can't see your link, work policy blocks those
[09:39:26] <soee_> oh ? :D
[09:39:49] <xzr> work policy blocks pastebin? uhuh
[09:39:51] <DocMika> but you should simply define that "user image" is always "pic1", then when user connects, if user has registered image != "pic1", use that
[09:40:09] <DocMika> xzr: yeah they block everything looking like chat/file sharing etc
[09:40:14] <DocMika> but they allow IRC
[09:40:17] <DocMika> whatever u_u"
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[09:40:49] <soee_> DocMika: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18083170/
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[09:41:07] <xzr> heh
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[09:41:42] <DocMika> soee_: doesn't that work?
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[09:43:26] <soee_> DocMika: it works, the thing is i have to use it in several places/templates. Now i wonder if always use this or extract it somewhere to reuse it
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[09:46:17] <snappy_> ..
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[09:48:49] <DocMika> soee_: well, I see 2 main use case you might need it, one on the main page of your app, so your user knows if he's authenticated or not, and one in the "forums" if you have any to indicate who write a message
[09:49:05] <DocMika> soee_: (obv without domain knowledge of your app this is hard to tell)
[09:49:29] <DocMika> soee_: but you might place that code in those two templates and it might be enough, no?
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[09:50:06] <soee_> DocMika: yes more or less :)
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[09:50:26] <soee_> What is teh best way to set focus on some field when link is clicked ?
[09:51:03] <soee_> and scroll to it if out of view area
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[09:52:47] <DocMika> soee_: why not use an anchor?
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[09:53:09] <soee_> DocMika: will it set focus on field ? :)
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[09:54:56] <DocMika> soee_: it will scroll to that field at least :D
[09:55:19] <DocMika> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14833326/how-to-set-focus-on-input-field
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[09:57:25] <DocMika> hi arlekin
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[09:57:54] <arlekin> hi guys
[09:58:05] <arlekin> hi mika (notice lack of the 'p' word)
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[09:59:03] <DocMika> è_é
[09:59:12] <DocMika> I had to explain it again this morning
[09:59:19] <DocMika> wondering if that was you teasing me
[09:59:48] <DocMika> aaaand it's knowledge transfer time. Today : find the missing DLL's of a program whose destruction is already planned -.-"
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[09:59:56] <arlekin> DocMika: i wasn't, but there you go, slang which isn't popular enough ain't no slang, just bunch of weird words at inappropriate time
[10:00:14] <DocMika> arlekin: well it's perfectly popular enough in my crew
[10:00:23] <DocMika> you guyz ain't cool enough to hang with me, that is
[10:00:46] <arlekin> DocMika: its internet brah, your cute local dialects are irrelevant here
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[10:04:01] <DocMika> arlekin: that's sad
[10:04:16] <arlekin> DocMika: do you see me smiling ?
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[10:04:42] <DocMika> I can even hear you laughing
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[10:11:00] <arlekin> DocMika: that wasn't me, i swear
[10:11:09] <arlekin> dude... you've got to believe me
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[10:23:24] <verwilst> Hi guys! With <a [routerLink]="['/item/' + item.name ]"> and item.name being "abc:123", why does angular2 convert it to /item/123 ?
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[10:23:41] <verwilst> how do i make it :-agnostic? :-)
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[10:26:59] <verwilst> Even <a [routerLink]="['/item/abc\:123' ]"> gives me /item/123
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[10:31:22] <soee_> icebox: from you experiane, is it safe to name authentication service just: auth ?
[10:31:34] <angrybacon> verwilst Is is considered sane to have colons in the URL and if so, why do you need it? (curious)
[10:31:51] <verwilst> not sure about the sanity
[10:31:57] <verwilst> it's to show advisories
[10:32:08] <icebox> soee_: safe?
[10:32:46] <angrybacon> verwilst I'm not native english, what do you mean with advisories?
[10:32:54] <icebox> soee_: for naming convention you may read some code syle guide
[10:33:00] <verwilst> and debian has DSA-0000-0, but redhat/centos have CESA-2016:1139 for example
[10:33:31] <verwilst> so if you want to look up one advisory ( security report ), then i want to do it by advisory name :-)
[10:33:35] <verwilst> hence the :
[10:33:51] <snap> hey i registered 2 days back
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[10:34:05] <verwilst> maybe i'll just replace the : to . and back :-p
[10:34:18] <verwilst> or underscore
[10:34:23] <soee_> icebox: to be sure it wont collide with some core/other services names
[10:34:25] <snap> sorry 12 hours back but now its showing password is not valid
[10:35:03] <icebox> soee_: I see... I suppose that service is in your module
[10:35:17] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: from the rfc : unreserved characters = ALPHA / DIGIT / "-" / "." / "_" / "~"
[10:35:31] <Pyrrhus> I guess a colon is out :)
[10:35:35] <soee_> icebox: yes part of 'authentication' module
[10:35:43] <verwilst> .replace(':', '_') is implemented ;-)
[10:35:47] <verwilst> on to the next issue :-)
[10:35:58] <snap> soee: do u know how to fix or change a pswrd?
[10:36:08] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: ah yes, the colon is reserved for the users:password trick in urls
[10:36:14] <soee_> snap: fix or change ?
[10:36:18] <verwilst> aah idd Pyrrhus
[10:36:26] <snap> change
[10:36:33] <soee_> snap: but where ?
[10:36:34] <snap> i forgot it
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[10:36:51] <snap> registered user account
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[10:37:10] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: are you using child-routing by any chance ? I couldn´t get that to work at all with the alpha router.
[10:37:50] <snap> of registered account soe:
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[10:39:14] <soee_> snap: something like https://freenode.net/news/user-enabled-sendpass
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[10:39:27] <snap> ok let me see
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[10:41:07] <snap> soee:
[10:41:15] <snap> what to write in account?
[10:41:22] <snap> username or mail id?
[10:41:27] <snap> soee:
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[10:43:02] <snap> its showing your not registered :D
[10:43:17] <snap> bloody hell
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[10:44:23] <snap> well thanks soee :) thankyou ;)
[10:44:43] <soee_> it worked ?
[10:44:53] <soee_> if not jump to #freenode and ask stuff for help
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[10:45:11] <snap> i contacted support now
[10:45:35] <snap> well if account is not registered then its not a big deal :D
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[10:45:51] <snap> i was worried about if someone misused it
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[10:46:10] <verwilst> Pyrrhus: child-routing?
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[10:46:30] <verwilst> i only do 18+-routing
[10:46:53] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: hehe
[10:47:19] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: I mean having a route with an array children that routes to child components.
[10:47:46] <snap> verwilst: ... what is the need of binding in angjs?
[10:48:04] <verwilst> i just do <a [routerLink]="['/item/' + item.name.replace(':', '_') ]"> :-)
[10:48:18] <verwilst> snap: say what now?
[10:48:43] <snap> tell me verwilst:
[10:48:55] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: I´m talking about the definition of the routes in your .ts that those link to ;)
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[10:49:12] <Pyrrhus> but I guess you´re not doing childrouting...
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[10:49:56] <verwilst> { path: 'advisory/:id', component: AdvisoryComponent}
[10:50:05] <verwilst> i still don't get the childrouting thing hehe
[10:50:22] <snap> pyrrhus: the basic concepts of verwilst are not clear and he is talking about 18+ :D
[10:50:26] <Pyrrhus> it´s further along in the docs ;)
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[10:51:30] <Pyrrhus> well that was weird...
[10:52:09] <arlekin> well... we do have planty of weird here
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[10:52:14] <arlekin> and often
[10:52:30] <angrybacon> I have a controller and a service, the controller exposes a boolean that is changed within the service. However the change doesn't appear in the HTML partials. Is there something I missed?
[10:52:32] <Pyrrhus> yeah, you´re around almost every day ;)
[10:52:41] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: true :D
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[10:53:35] <Pyrrhus> angrybacon: are you sure you shouldn´t have it the other way around ? the service exposes it to the controller(s) who sees changed values ?
[10:54:10] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: that was the snappy guy from yesterday I think
[10:54:31] <verwilst> hehe it was :-D
[10:54:51] <angrybacon> Pyrrhus I meant the controller exposes the value to the HTML partials
[10:54:57] <Pyrrhus> with a different nick then ?
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[10:55:31] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: well, he said he couldn't register anymore
[10:55:41] <Pyrrhus> angrybacon: so from service -> controller -> view ?
[10:55:49] <DocMika> but on the other hand, at his first connection this morning, he failed twice in a row and revealed his password to the whole chan
[10:55:53] <angrybacon> Pyrrhus Yeah
[10:56:26] <Pyrrhus> angrybacon: sounds like somewhere the reference is lost, so updates don´t propagate. better plunk it so we can see.
[10:56:29] <DocMika> verwilst: child routing is (unless I am wrong) routing in a child component
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[10:57:06] <angrybacon> Pyrrhus I'll tried to replicate but couldn't, too many things going on. Will try again
[10:57:11] <verwilst> a child component.. must have missed that class
[10:57:16] <verwilst> i only have components
[10:57:31] <DocMika> verwilst: well, you have Hero and hero-detail right?
[10:57:36] <DocMika> hero-detail needs to know about hero
[10:57:45] <DocMika> so we could say it's a "child" component
[10:57:53] <verwilst> ah ok
[10:57:54] <DocMika> (but I might be wrong, again)
[10:58:25] <DocMika> and so the routing from hero-list to hero-detail would be a child routing
[10:58:38] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: you´re right. the heroes example works, but when I tried it with my own setup (slightly different) I couldn´t get it to work.
[10:58:43] <verwilst> i would just do the above :-)
[10:58:56] <verwilst> <a [routerLink]="['/item/' + item.name.replace(':', '_') ]">
[10:59:03] <Pyrrhus> adding a child route broke the parent route (as in ´no such route´)
[10:59:23] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: yeah, I struggle a lot in january when I wanted to do it with "articles" instead of "heroes"
[10:59:44] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: I switched to ngrx/router. works well.
[11:00:01] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: i switched to other technologies, waiting till ng2 is mature :D
[11:00:20] <DocMika> I really loved the structure of ng2 routing
[11:00:27] <DocMika> but I can't relearn everything every week
[11:00:33] <verwilst> hehe
[11:00:44] <verwilst> but it's a release candidate!
[11:00:47] <verwilst> :-D :-D
[11:00:56] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: ngrx/router is almost the same, only the tags are different
[11:01:09] <Pyrrhus> yeah, an alpha rc. who ever heard of that ;)
[11:01:13] <DocMika> verwilst: right, meaning it only has around 12 month late.
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[11:01:43] <DocMika> was supposed to be released in 2015 -.-
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[11:02:27] <verwilst> hehe
[11:02:29] <Pyrrhus> yeah, like php6 was supposed to be released in 2013 :P
[11:02:43] <Pyrrhus> and perl6 in 2010 :)
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[11:03:07] <verwilst> the ngrx/router thing has a subdocument for children.. what's the difference with having a path per url? one for /blog, one for /blog/:id?
[11:03:27] <DocMika> my favorite is SOAP1.2
[11:03:33] <DocMika> which has been in beta since 2001
[11:04:20] <DocMika> verwilst: well you need a path to tell the app which template to load
[11:04:41] <DocMika> it can't guess if your user want to see dashboard, profile pics or kittens topic
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[11:05:24] <verwilst> ah, i only have item/:id now, no item/
[11:05:29] <verwilst> maybe that's why it works?
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[11:06:27] <DocMika> verwilst: well do you have a template with the list of all items?
[11:07:42] <Pyrrhus> and more importantly : do you want to display said list together with a selected item ? if yes, you _nee_ childrouting.
[11:07:54] <Pyrrhus> _need_ that is
[11:07:56] <DocMika> ha
[11:08:04] <DocMika> wasn't fast enough to ask
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[11:08:55] <verwilst> ah no, i have a 'HomeComponent', and i load some items through a rest json thingy and show em on that page
[11:09:20] <verwilst> when you click on a link containing their id ( /item/:id ), then you go to another view with routerLink
[11:09:59] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: if you have nested <router-outlet>s, then your actually using childrouting.
[11:10:03] <DocMika> how do you display those item on homecomponent?
[11:10:07] <verwilst> but the heroes tutorial uses child components then, no? that worked in the tutorial
[11:10:13] <DocMika> yes it does verwilst
[11:10:13] <verwilst> ah ok, no i'm not :-)
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[11:10:59] <verwilst> DocMika: well it does in the first few chapters, but in the end they're split up, right
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[11:11:48] <DocMika> verwilst: coudl'nt say, didn't try the tuto since may
[11:12:16] <DocMika> verwilst: but I think there's a router-outlet in the maincomp then another one in "hero" for "hero-detail"
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[11:12:27] <DocMika> (same with crisis, if that still exists)
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[11:13:23] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: yes, it´s still there. with crisis and heroes showing 2 ways of parent-child relations.
[11:14:13] <verwilst> hm, must of missed that
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[11:14:43] <cristatus> hi all
[11:14:53] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: it´s not in the actual tutorial, but in the docs (which actually just continue the tutorial)
[11:15:04] <cristatus> I am facing one strange issue with new router api in rc3
[11:15:16] <cristatus> I have an app based on ng2 beta
[11:15:31] <cristatus> where I have a root container component
[11:15:36] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/guide/router.html
[11:15:40] <cristatus> that loads some common data from server
[11:15:51] <cristatus> and then renders main app as it's child
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[11:16:04] <iateadonut> on 1.5.x is there a way to define the model based on html?
[11:16:08] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, yes I read it
[11:16:14] <cristatus> let me explain first
[11:16:24] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: that was for verwilst ;)
[11:16:34] <cristatus> :)
[11:16:36] <iateadonut> so if i do something like <input ng-value=2 ng-model=something > then $scope.something = 2; ?
[11:16:41] <cristatus> so now with rc3
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[11:16:54] <cristatus> I have to provide routes during bootstrap
[11:16:58] <cristatus> and this is causing issue
[11:17:32] <cristatus> as <router-outlet> is still not available
[11:17:39] <cristatus> in root component
[11:17:58] <cristatus> it's in actual app component
[11:18:16] <cristatus> which is rendered once data is loaded in root component
[11:18:34] <verwilst> seeing the router is 'alpha' release is kinda scary knowing what they call rc :-)
[11:19:03] <cristatus> verwilst, yes I agree
[11:19:19] <cristatus> changes from beta to rc are dramatic
[11:19:29] <verwilst> even between rc's :-D
[11:19:30] <cristatus> I don't understand why it can be called rc
[11:19:32] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: the router is not core angular, or so they say ;)
[11:19:42] <zug_> Can I interpolate "window.location.href" in a template?
[11:19:56] <Pyrrhus> zug_: maybe via $window ?
[11:21:08] <zug_> Pyrrhus: Cannot read property 'location' of undefined
[11:21:08] <cristatus> verwilst, I tried to move the provideRouter at component level
[11:21:26] <zug_> angular2, btw
[11:21:29] <cristatus> but then router fails to render initial route
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[11:22:01] <verwilst> i've only been doing angular2 since last week wednesday
[11:22:02] <Pyrrhus> zug_: $window is a service that needs to be injected into the controller first.
[11:22:07] <verwilst> i might not be the person to ask hehe
[11:22:13] <Pyrrhus> zug_: ah.
[11:22:17] <cristatus> verwilst, I see
[11:22:30] <Pyrrhus> zug_: then $window doesn´t exist :)
[11:22:36] <DocMika> cristatus: verwilst : you guyz are facing the problem that stopped everybody for now : routing
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[11:22:49] <DocMika> I stopped a month ago because I had to use "router-deprecated"
[11:22:58] <zug_> Ah :) I guess I'll be needing the route then?
[11:23:01] <verwilst> well, i actually have no issues now since i don't do child routing
[11:23:01] <Pyrrhus> switch to ngrx/router ! :)
[11:23:27] <Pyrrhus> zug_: depending on what you actually want : yes :)
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[11:23:31] <verwilst> is child routing like when you have 2 divs, each 50% in width, and you want to have like 2 mini-apps, one in each div?
[11:23:40] <DocMika> verwilst: no
[11:23:56] <zug_> Well, I'm using svg's xlink, which doesn't work well with relative paths and a base href
[11:23:56] <verwilst> that when you click on a child in div1, it loads the child page in that div alone
[11:23:56] <DocMika> verwilst: or actually, it might
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[11:24:19] <zug_> So I need to provide the absolute path in the xlink
[11:24:26] <DocMika> verwilst: Child routing is when you need to use routing inside a component that already was accessible via routing
[11:24:31] <cristatus> DocMika, it's crazy to make such a big change when ng2 is approaching stable
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[11:24:42] <cristatus> old router was working fine
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[11:24:57] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: we´re all wrong in thinking rc means it´s approaching stable ;)
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[11:25:24] <DocMika> verwilst: meaning that if you are on startpage and you follow a link, you are in routing. If that link then send you to another link, it's child routing. I guess.
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[11:25:31] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: upthis
[11:25:41] <Pyrrhus> as long as you stay away from angular/router (and forms ?) it´s fine.
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[11:26:08] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: yeah, cause you can do so many app's without routing and forms.
[11:26:11] <cristatus> but this is a big problem
[11:26:14] <arlekin> nested $watch'es - is it a bad practice ? feels like it...
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[11:26:27] <Pyrrhus> icebox said release should be in september, guess router (and forms ?) will not be included
[11:26:29] <cristatus> we have a big app based on beta
[11:26:45] <DocMika> cristatus: that's a bad idea;
[11:26:47] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: just add another router. it´s modular ;)
[11:26:48] <cristatus> and now we see such a big change
[11:26:54] <cristatus> yes, may be
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[11:27:08] <cristatus> actually, we were the early adopter of angular1
[11:27:31] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: yeaaaaaah but if I have to add another router, another form-manager and another way to deal with whatever thing it is, I might also stuck with another framework ^^
[11:27:39] <cristatus> and it was good experience overall
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[11:27:48] <arlekin> dudes, i literally stopped coding due to this doubt, anyone ?
[11:27:53] <cristatus> during alpha to beta to stable
[11:28:22] <arlekin> (sorry for being rude, zone)
[11:28:36] <cristatus> DocMika, fully agreed
[11:28:48] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: you might. then again : I´m just experimenting, so it´s not a really big deal to switch back and forth. a lot of the basics are the same everywhere.
[11:28:59] <cristatus> btw, I think deprecated router was good at defining routes are component level
[11:29:01] <DocMika> cristatus: icebox shared an interview of ng2 dev explaining ng1 was the good solution at the good moment, which is why it worked well
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[11:29:27] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: no sure, for experiments it's sweet, doc is well written, and everything "in place" is working just fine
[11:29:57] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: but for people as cristatus that are in prod, it's soooooo much trouble, you never know if your syntax will still work after the week end
[11:29:59] <cristatus> DocMika, so do you mean it's not a good time for ng2?
[11:30:15] <cristatus> then we are in trouble
[11:30:23] <DocMika> cristatus: I don't have any idea, but the people in the interview seemed to say it's not as good a period as it was for ng1
[11:30:26] <icebox> cristatus: Will Angular 2 take off? https://t.co/BFzrAPHY0X
[11:30:40] <DocMika> !icebox should definitely be a thing
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[11:30:57] <arlekin> DocMika: hahahahaha good one
[11:31:02] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: agreed. I´ve been bitten by the ´oh, it´s almost stable, lets just use it´ shite that I´m never falling for that again. wait for 1.1, and then use it in production :)
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[11:31:27] <arlekin> also i'd like to note that afaik the picture in the article is actually from SpaceX launch
[11:31:35] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: ^-^ that's what I felt in january
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[11:31:58] <cristatus> icebox, thanks for sharing it, will check
[11:32:06] <Pyrrhus> also : I´m learning about TS and the whole ecosystem (webpack and whatnot), so I can still use that when I switch to react :P
[11:32:09] <DocMika> arlekin: I think no one believed it was ng - related
[11:32:28] <cristatus> but don't you think it's a problem for those who started big on beta?
[11:32:31] <arlekin> DocMika: im just showing off my nerdiness, dont mind me :P
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[11:32:39] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: ^-^ yeah right, I learned a lot that has helped me understand node
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[11:32:46] <cristatus> let me repeat, we are using ng1 since it was introduced
[11:32:57] <cristatus> so we are expecting to migrate or do new apps on ng2
[11:33:05] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: never ever base a product on a beta. that´s what you learned now...
[11:33:27] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, we did a large project based ng1 alpha :)
[11:33:30] <DocMika> cristatus: well.... starting big projects on beta is never a good idea, it worked well for you with ng1 and taht's great, but even if it's google behind, one may never know if a beta will ever reach release.
[11:33:42] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: you got lucky that time, I guess ;)
[11:33:45] <verwilst> aaah it's only not childrouting if you click on the links in your app.component.html
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[11:33:50] <cristatus> and it was in really a good shape
[11:33:51] <icebox> cristatus: I think 1.5.x, with best practices explained recently in Todd Motto's blog, is great
[11:33:57] <verwilst> since those links are above the router-outlet
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[11:34:26] <arlekin> do we moved over the fact that Pyrrhus said he will move to react eventually ??
[11:34:31] <DocMika> yeah but the fact I landed a double salto while on my rollerblade once doesn't mean I should tempt it again eyes folded while juggling with chainsaw
[11:34:32] <arlekin> traitor!
[11:34:33] <icebox> cristatus: angular 2 is another kind of beast
[11:34:49] <icebox> cristatus: it is quite explained in that interview
[11:35:03] <Pyrrhus> icebox: do you perchance know of a starter/seed that is based on that styleguide _and_ uses TS ?
[11:35:12] <DocMika> arlekin: no no, i noted that so I can ask him to explain it in the end
[11:35:37] <icebox> Pyrrhus: 1.5.x and Typescript? no... 1.5.x with ES2015? yes
[11:35:43] <cristatus> icebox, yes I can see ng2 is very different
[11:35:44] <arlekin> DocMika: 'ask' ]:->
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[11:35:54] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: couldn't find any good TS-using tuto's for ng1
[11:35:55] <Pyrrhus> icebox: pity. I <heart> TS now...
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[11:36:37] <icebox> Pyrrhus: at the moment this is state of art https://github.com/toddmotto/angular-styleguide
[11:36:57] <cristatus> we have one project that uses ng1 expresses with dynamic templates
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[11:37:02] <cristatus> we migrated this app to ng2
[11:37:31] <cristatus> seeing beta in good shape
[11:37:32] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: arlekin: I´m experimenting, and like angular, but I´m not sold on using it in production. my colleague does react, and it´s also nice. not sure which is the right tool for any projects in my future.
[11:37:43] <cristatus> but now big changes are done
[11:38:09] <cristatus> but now we are seeing this router issue
[11:38:15] <cristatus> it's not that big though
[11:38:23] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: No idea. afik react isn't a framework but a frontend helper, with a learning curve similar to a cliff : you're either up top, or down bottom.
[11:38:23] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: im joking obviously, its just personally im soooo sold on angularjs that i cannot comprehend why one would want react
[11:38:26] <Pyrrhus> icebox: I´ve seen that link dozens of times now (and read it ;)) es2015 looks nice, but TS looks nicer :)
[11:38:27] <verwilst> hm,i'm using routerLinks, but in the tut they use (click)="gotoDetail(hero)" for example.. shouldn't i use something similar for the <a> tag?
[11:38:30] <cristatus> but simply don't understand why such big changes from beta to rc
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[11:39:07] <DocMika> verwilst: the a tag has a href which works that way already
[11:39:17] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: react + redux + redux-router == a framework not unlike angular.
[11:39:20] <DocMika> verwilst: except you can't really pass arguments in it
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[11:39:37] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: yeah but then i have to learn three things.
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[11:39:57] <arlekin> now, can someone, please, tell me if declaring $watch inside another $watch is bad practice ? (given ofc im unregistering it in the same watch)
[11:40:09] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: it´s all javascript ;) angular´s router uses different syntax for other angular modules as well.
[11:40:17] <DocMika> arlekin: As Jon Snow once said, "I don't know"
[11:40:25] <nishu-tryinghard> iam using ui-bootstrap carousel in my page i want to get the scope of it from my controller. how can i get it?
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[11:40:37] <verwilst> DocMika: ok, so if you have a list of items, each being an <a> tag, how would you go to the details of an item?
[11:40:44] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: also, I´ll probaby go with ngrx/store too, which is redux for angular.
[11:41:04] <verwilst> <a [routerLink]="['/item/' + item.name.replace(':', '_') ]"> ?
[11:41:07] <arlekin> icebox: ? you are kinda guru here anyway
[11:41:25] <verwilst> or <a ([item])shizzle >
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[11:41:59] <icebox> arlekin: I don't think so... why?
[11:42:03] <DocMika> verwilst: you'd have to pass informations about the item in the url in the href (like the id or something), and that url should lead to a template with the details of the item bound to that id
[11:42:13] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: or route via a function ;) it´s in the docs ;)
[11:42:31] <arlekin> icebox: regardless - declaring watch inside watch - hot or not ?
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[11:42:45] <icebox> arlekin: ah... I vote against :)
[11:42:55] <arlekin> icebox: ok, why ?
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[11:43:42] <icebox> arlekin: firstly because there is only one use case to use $watch... listening attrs in a directive
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[11:44:26] <arlekin> icebox: lemme explain my usecase - i need to set validation flag based on value of model of the widget
[11:44:33] <icebox> arlekin: then I don't see any advantage to nest watchers
[11:44:50] <nishu-tryinghard> how can i call functions of the uib carousel controller from my controller, is it the correct way to do or any other way?
[11:44:55] <arlekin> and the problem is i can use one widget, or based on checkbox another widget
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[11:45:15] <arlekin> so when checkbox is set i'd like to start watching for changes on the newly shown widget
[11:45:23] <icebox> arlekin: if you need a shared state, use services :)
[11:45:36] <arlekin> therefor i watch the checkbox value, and then optionally watch widget value
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[11:45:55] <arlekin> icebox: it may be error in my picturing of it but i dont see shared state
[11:45:58] <arlekin> in that case
[11:47:36] <icebox> arlekin: I understood you depend on a checkbox value and conditionally you would apply that logic in another widget... that is a shared state
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[11:47:53] <arlekin> icebox: not in widget, on widget
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[11:48:10] <arlekin> you know, lets ditch widgets and simplify iy
[11:48:16] <arlekin> say i have two inputs
[11:48:22] <arlekin> and checkbox
[11:48:29] <arlekin> input1 and checkbox are visible
[11:48:41] <arlekin> checking checkbox disables input1 and shows input2
[11:48:54] <arlekin> so i have validation based on input1
[11:48:55] <icebox> arlekin: ok
[11:49:01] <arlekin> but i watch checkbox
[11:49:19] <arlekin> and if it is true, then i show input2 and start watching it for changes
[11:49:29] <icebox> arlekin: no need for watchers for that... no?
[11:49:55] <arlekin> icebox: it may well be, but im still kinda fuzzy on digest cycle im afraid
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[11:50:17] <DocMika> arlekin: he means you don't need any watcher to have two ng-show
[11:50:26] <DocMika> (I think)
[11:50:50] <arlekin> DocMika: first im using visibility css rule, second its not about showing
[11:51:09] <nishu-tryinghard> if you use $scope.var then digest will be called implicitly no need to watch so you can create a variable name $scope.validationFlag and make its value true or false based on the checkbox
[11:51:33] <arlekin> nishu-tryinghard: yeah i know that
[11:51:42] <arlekin> maybe i wasn't clear
[11:51:59] <arlekin> my validation is based on the widgets and not on checkbox
[11:52:07] <icebox> arlekin: if you put data (model) in a service and you work with the references, it is enough ng-if/ng-show in the template
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[11:52:48] <nishu-tryinghard> arlekin, so can you tell more about your use case?
[11:53:25] <arlekin> nishu-tryinghard: it will take some time, but in the spirit of comradery...
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[11:53:49] <arlekin> so user has to be able to specify timespan
[11:54:10] <icebox> arlekin: I think our concern is the validation process...
[11:54:11] <nishu-tryinghard> sry i was logged out just now can you paste it here again
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[11:54:22] <arlekin> nishu-tryinghard: waited for you
[11:54:43] <arlekin> anyway the most common case is that the timespan is single month from beginning to end
[11:54:57] <arlekin> so i have a widget allowing selecting month and year
[11:55:24] <arlekin> but there is strong case for being able to specify custom start and end date
[11:55:44] <icebox> arlekin: if I understood correctly, you use watchers as surrogate of ngModelOptions of https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngModelOptions
[11:55:44] <arlekin> so i have a checkbox disabling month/year part and showing two datepickers
[11:56:05] <arlekin> icebox: i didn't understand you right now
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[11:56:42] <arlekin> although the more i think about it
[11:56:51] <icebox> arlekin: I think you are using watchers as entry point for validation process, when you should use ngModelOptions
[11:57:29] <arlekin> icebox: validation may be strong word, more like ensuring all required fields are filled before enabling save button
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[11:58:08] <icebox> arlekin: well... I am trying to follow your words.. when you say "my validation is based on the widgets and not on checkbox" :)
[11:58:18] <arlekin> also the problem is i have the custom date (the two datepicker) in kosher way as component where as the month and year fields are as is by hand
[11:58:33] <arlekin> and im starting to think if i wrap month/year in component also
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[11:58:55] <arlekin> i could have both this widget ng-model to the same var, and don't have to deal with anything
[11:59:04] <arlekin> alright
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[11:59:07] <arlekin> sorry for mess
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[11:59:29] <Pyrrhus> can someone take a look at http://plnkr.co/edit/ONezVxOCBawynmxixDeJ?p=preview and tell me why the 2-way binding isn´t working ? (click the button, both ´foo´ should become ´baz´)
[11:59:38] <arlekin> im rarely asking quesitons here, but when i do its usually wrong type in wrong way, sorry guys, and thanks for patience
[11:59:46] <Pyrrhus> it´s driving me crazy, prolly smt. simple :(
[11:59:48] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: checking
[11:59:58] <icebox> arlekin: no problem... that are always good questions :)
[12:00:46] <DocMika> arlekin: you don't ask much because you already know things. And you ask "wrong type use wrong way" because you're good at what you do but sometimes you think twisted
[12:00:53] <icebox> Pyrrhus: here it works
[12:01:12] <arlekin> DocMika: wow... that was like the nicest thing i heard all week, thanks
[12:01:12] <icebox> off... for a break
[12:01:16] <Pyrrhus> icebox: wut ? you get ´outside baz´ ?
[12:01:36] <DocMika> icebox: buon appetito
[12:01:37] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: im not using TS nor ng2 but i think it might be the fact you are changing this.foo
[12:01:55] <icebox> Pyrrhus: no... but you didn't explained what you expected :)
[12:02:10] <DocMika> icebox: he said "both" foo :)
[12:02:13] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: like, your toggle function in now way changes anything external
[12:02:16] <Pyrrhus> icebox: I said both ´foo´ should become ´baz´ ;)
[12:02:18] <arlekin> *no way
[12:02:29] <icebox> Pyrrhus: I see...
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[12:02:47] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: well, this.foo is bound via Input(), or so I thought...
[12:02:56] <icebox> Pyrrhus: (easy) see you later
[12:03:19] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: im really blindly trying to help by instinct, since as i said im not using neither ts nor ng2
[12:03:25] <Pyrrhus> icebox: you´re gonna leave me hanging, right ? ;)
[12:03:35] <DocMika> he's hungry
[12:03:39] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: np, thanks for trying :)
[12:03:45] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: the [(foo)] notation ? what does that mean in ng1 terms ?
[12:03:49] <angrybacon> peut pas le voir
[12:04:24] <Pyrrhus> ´banana-in-a-box´ notation is 2-way binding. [] is one way, () the other, banana-in-a-box is both.
[12:04:50] <Pyrrhus> (I love that term : banana-in-a-box)
[12:04:56] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: so basically for some reason your binding ain't working ?
[12:05:02] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: I think i know it
[12:05:03] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: yup
[12:05:16] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: your button with the toggle, it's in the test-component thingy right
[12:05:18] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: can't you declare it more explicitely just for test ?
[12:05:24] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: yup
[12:05:26] <DocMika> but the outside foo is not in the "test" selector
[12:05:30] <DocMika> it's before that
[12:06:14] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: outside foo is a property of app.component. bound via [(foo)]=¨foo¨ to the inside version. or so it should...
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[12:06:32] <DocMika> yeah but toggle is a method of test.component
[12:06:46] <Pyrrhus> initially, app.component sets inside foo to ´foo´ (one way of the binding)
[12:07:06] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: as it should be. I want the changed var to be exposed.
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[12:08:00] <nishu-tryinghard> arlekin, so you can just bind those value and in your controller have a function which is triggered on clicking save, and in this function you can check if the values are correct and filled and also you can initiate save in itself and return error message if field is empty.
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[12:08:20] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: no, you have two different foo'
[12:08:32] <arlekin> nishu-tryinghard: yup i know, but also we dropped the subject already ;) thanks anyway tho
[12:09:02] <DocMika> one you init in app.component (foo: string ="foo") and the other you define in "test.component"
[12:09:53] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: the app.component foo is bound via [(foo)] = ¨foo¨ to test.foo via the @input annotation in test.component. right ?
[12:10:10] <DocMika> Not sure at all
[12:10:18] <DocMika> I think
[12:10:24] <nishu-tryinghard> can anyone help me with this, iam using uib-carousel and i made my own indicator bar so i want to initiate select(slide) of the uib-carousel controller from my controller,
[12:10:29] <DocMika> you ought to put that "input" annotation in the app.component
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[12:10:46] <DocMika> nishu-tryinghard: no sorry I don't know that :(
[12:10:50] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: trying to make it work with different var names to make it clear, but that´s not working either...
[12:11:09] <nishu-tryinghard> DocMika, ty for your concern :)
[12:11:20] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: ^-^"
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[12:11:54] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: http://plnkr.co/edit/X5BppKXeAnuC3mHuNFKf?p=preview
[12:12:00] <Pyrrhus> same behavior, better names :)
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[12:13:13] <Pyrrhus> you can clearly see the binding from app -> test working (testfoo=´foo´). but not the reverse.
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[12:13:50] <DocMika> I received exactly the same as first time
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[12:14:21] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: that´s why I said same behavior :)
[12:14:47] <Pyrrhus> but I´m still expecting ´outside baz´ after a click.
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[12:15:15] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: no i mean even the name are the same
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[12:16:35] <Pyrrhus> please try again http://plnkr.co/edit/X5BppKXeAnuC3mHuNFKf?p=preview maybe I forgot to save...
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[12:17:13] <Pyrrhus> should be appfoo and testfoo (depending on context) bound via [()]
[12:18:23] <Pyrrhus> ah dammit. I´m missing an emitter...
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[12:19:26] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: what I wonder is why you'd want to define the value of your string in app.component, but have the method changing it in another component, instead of an event listener
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[12:20:35] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: because TestComponent will change the initial value, and the outside world (AppComponent) should be aware of that.
[12:21:05] <Pyrrhus> (the real component is a tree exposing the selected node to its parent)
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[12:22:00] <Pyrrhus> http://plnkr.co/edit/X5BppKXeAnuC3mHuNFKf?p=preview
[12:22:08] <Pyrrhus> working not, with an output emitter :)
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[12:22:50] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: yeah so we say the same thing : you need an event
[12:22:51] <DocMika> ^-^
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[12:26:37] <sravan> how to add css files
[12:26:49] <sravan> in the angular
[12:26:54] <sravan> priyotrity
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[12:28:01] <DocMika> sravan: whut?
[12:28:10] <DocMika> sravan: why would you add them any differently as usual?
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[12:28:52] <nishu-tryinghard> sravan, dom manipulation?
[12:29:10] <sravan> dom manipulations means
[12:29:26] <DocMika> x'-)
[12:29:28] <nishu-tryinghard> you want to change the css using angular is that what you want?
[12:30:20] <sravan> i want to keep the page responsive
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[12:31:01] <cristatus> icebox, Pyrrhus, DocMika: http://plnkr.co/edit/7MYmKgb8on2cphZ2YxmI?p=preview
[12:31:07] <cristatus> this is what I am doing with new router
[12:31:08] <sravan> fixing of sizes may vary the web site from dicvice to device
[12:31:23] <cristatus> see main.ts and app.component.ts
[12:31:53] <sravan> ok tq
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[12:32:12] <cristatus> in main.ts
[12:32:23] <cristatus> I create an AppContainer
[12:32:32] <cristatus> which is supposed to load some initial data from server
[12:32:44] <cristatus> once this data is loaded, it will render the real app component
[12:32:59] <cristatus> I think it's a bug in new router
[12:33:14] <cristatus> you can see the app renders but child route components don't
[12:33:21] <cristatus> you have to click on one of the link
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[12:33:40] <cristatus> then router starts working
[12:33:51] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: what do I have to click to see the problem in action ?
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[12:34:20] <DocMika> cristatus: why would this be a problem?
[12:34:22] <cristatus> crisis center, heroes
[12:34:23] <Pyrrhus> (also: routerv3 and childrouting equals misery, it did for me at least)
[12:34:55] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: those are working as expected ?
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[12:35:08] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, no they don't
[12:35:12] <cristatus> if you have noticed
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[12:35:21] <cristatus> when app renders
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[12:35:30] <cristatus> they is only header and nav links
[12:35:46] <cristatus> default route component is not rendered
[12:35:49] <DocMika> cristatus: yeah but the template from app.component doesn't contain anything else
[12:35:49] <Pyrrhus> ah, you mean the default route is not working.
[12:35:56] <verwilst> https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13532868_10154168413503260_1775643476885783898_n.jpg?oh=2d8cf23c6b2b977e19c741ce9ebde66b&oe=57FE3259 < this is the same for me when learning languagues, for example with angular2, i'm now deeply in the through of sorrow
[12:35:56] <DocMika> what default route?
[12:35:57] <verwilst> hehe
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[12:36:39] <cristatus> DocMika, Pyrrhus see this original plunker https://angular.io/resources/live-examples/router/ts/plnkr.html
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[12:37:06] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: what have you changed from that ?
[12:37:09] <DocMika> cristatus: excuse me but your plunker contains like a thousand of files, would you simply point at which contains your "default route"?
[12:37:22] <cristatus> I changed 2 files
[12:37:28] <cristatus> main.ts and app.component.ts
[12:37:56] <cristatus> DocMika, yes I choose this to show the difference in default behavior
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[12:39:58] <Pyrrhus> your default route is not defined on the main level, so it doesn´t show. why do you want to do that ?
[12:40:19] <Pyrrhus> sounds like it´s working fine, but you expect something different.
[12:40:35] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: ^
[12:41:17] <Pyrrhus> you could always functionally route to something in the ngOnInit of a later component, I guess.
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[12:41:37] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, see app/crisis-center/crisis-center.routes.ts
[12:42:01] <cristatus> default route is defined with '/crisis-center'
[12:42:17] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: yes, I´ve seen it. but I guess it simply doesn´t work like that if you don´t route on the default level.
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[12:42:32] <Pyrrhus> (still don´t understand why you don´t want to do that)
[12:42:52] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, this is same as original plunker
[12:43:01] <cristatus> only changes I made are
[12:43:06] <cristatus> creating a container component
[12:43:08] <cristatus> loading data
[12:43:15] <cristatus> and rendering app once data is loaded
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[12:43:42] <cristatus> and move route provides from bootstrap to AppComponent
[12:43:43] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: if differs on a crucial level :)
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[12:43:57] <Pyrrhus> and that´s why it doesn´t work.
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[12:44:06] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, I see
[12:44:13] <cristatus> so how we can do that?
[12:44:17] <DocMika> well instead of providing the routes when it creates the app, you provide it once it has loaded everything
[12:44:19] <Pyrrhus> you could route in the ngOnInit of your AppComponent I guess, if you wanted to.
[12:44:31] <cristatus> with the example, you should have idea what I am trying
[12:44:39] <Pyrrhus> smt. like router.navigate(´wherever´);
[12:44:46] <cristatus> actually, with beta it was working fine
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[12:45:37] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: I´m not sure if this will ever work again, it looks like it needs the routes on bootstrap (it even says so in the docs I think)
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[12:45:53] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, I see
[12:46:08] <cristatus> almost all our apps follow this structure
[12:46:19] <cristatus> there is an app container that load initial data
[12:46:23] <cristatus> and renders main app
[12:46:40] <cristatus> so if it's not going to work with RC3 onward
[12:46:44] <cristatus> we are in big trouble
[12:47:09] <Pyrrhus> can´t you simply export all routes and use them with ...ExportedRoutes like in the example ?
[12:47:30] <cristatus> I don't see any difference
[12:47:32] <cristatus> here you can see
[12:47:35] <cristatus> app.routes.ts
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[12:47:47] <cristatus> is aggregating all routes
[12:47:59] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: difference is the routes are available at bootstrap ;) quite a critical diff...
[12:48:11] <cristatus> I see
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[12:48:58] <cristatus> I feel the new router is designed like react-router
[12:49:12] <cristatus> routes are configured at once place only
[12:49:35] <DocMika> cristatus: but why is it so important for you to load all data before ? I thought one of teh major advantages of angular was to be able to preload things before rendering
[12:49:36] <cristatus> but doesn't allow deferred rendering of routes
[12:49:40] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: well, imported at one place...
[12:49:42] <cristatus> with react we can do that
[12:49:50] <cristatus> not all data
[12:50:04] <cristatus> we load some data like, logged in user profile, app settings etc
[12:50:17] <cristatus> all other data is loaded only when required
[12:50:42] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: simply move your route imports to main.ts and be done with it ?
[12:50:49] <cristatus> no
[12:50:53] <DocMika> well why would that loading stop you from showing start page of the app?
[12:51:15] <cristatus> as <router-outlet> is not there in container component
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[12:51:32] <cristatus> so router is throwing error
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[12:52:10] <cristatus> DocMika, well we can do router.navigate in ngOnInit of app component
[12:52:35] <cristatus> but what if we reload with browser refresh button?
[12:52:38] <cristatus> or with F5?
[12:53:16] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: simply add a dummy router-outlet ? it doesn´t really matter that you don´t use it.
[12:53:32] <DocMika> I don't get it.
[12:53:33] <Pyrrhus> or change your app so it _is_ used at least for the default route
[12:53:40] <DocMika> yeah
[12:53:51] <DocMika> just have a start page in "app.component.ts"
[12:54:06] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, yes can do that
[12:54:24] <cristatus> but see if we are on some another route
[12:54:31] <cristatus> and refresh the entire app
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[12:54:35] <cristatus> with F5
[12:54:54] <cristatus> the dummy outlet will show that
[12:54:57] <cristatus> we want to make sure
[12:55:05] <cristatus> no route is rendered before data is loaded
[12:55:07] <cristatus> even default
[12:55:23] <verwilst> what would the components be for items/ and items/:id?
[12:55:32] <DocMika> verwilst: item?
[12:55:34] <verwilst> ItemsComponent and ItemComponent?
[12:55:41] <DocMika> verwilst: (and item detail)
[12:55:42] <Pyrrhus> itemList and itemCOmponent
[12:55:54] <verwilst> ItemListComponent then?
[12:55:55] <Pyrrhus> choices choices :)
[12:55:59] <DocMika> ^^
[12:56:23] <verwilst> i'll have to use children after all!
[12:56:25] <verwilst> :-)
[12:56:39] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: you need something like the old router´s resolve functionality to block routing then :)
[12:56:52] <cristatus> :(
[12:56:52] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: good luck with that :P
[12:56:52] <verwilst> ItemsComponent and ItemDetailComponent
[12:57:16] <verwilst> i'll quickly switch to your suggestion though, the ngrx thingy
[12:57:17] <cristatus> actually, I think the old router was better designed
[12:57:20] <verwilst> when it starts failing
[12:57:36] <DocMika> cristatus: well, if I understand correctly, you want the app to be loaded as much as possible before rendering. I think ng2 allows pre-loading of some pages so that you precisely don't have to show blank pages filling in.
[12:57:52] <DocMika> cristatus: yeah, we all agree on that
[12:58:38] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: you might be able to block loading with the CanDeactive guard (see docs) on your default route
[12:58:56] <cristatus> yes
[12:59:06] <cristatus> but that's only for child routes
[12:59:10] <cristatus> what about main app template?
[12:59:20] <cristatus> we want to show some data in header/footer for example
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[13:00:17] <cristatus> DocMika, no I don't want to load entire app
[13:00:27] <cristatus> just some global data
[13:00:36] <cristatus> like logged in user profile and app settings etc
[13:00:54] <cristatus> so I can configure header/footer with this initial data
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[13:02:05] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: maybe you need a childRouter in your component. it exists, but I see no examples.
[13:02:26] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, I see
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[13:02:56] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: also, functional routing gives you a promise, which you can use to resolve needed data.
[13:03:10] <DocMika> out for lunch
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[13:03:35] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, but I doubt it can solve my issue
[13:03:48] <cristatus> as in all cases, it's all about child routes
[13:03:54] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: dunno, it´s all too alpha :)
[13:03:56] <cristatus> what I want is
[13:04:03] <Pyrrhus> maybe check out ngrx/router ?
[13:04:08] <cristatus> data is ready before main app template is rendered
[13:04:17] <cristatus> so that in main app template I can configure few things
[13:04:21] <cristatus> like header/footer etc
[13:04:25] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: yes, that´s the old ´resolve´ feature.
[13:04:39] <cristatus> so no such feature in new router api?
[13:05:15] <Pyrrhus> dunno. maybe you can do without for now ? you will see uninitated content, but it´ll probably work.
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[13:05:38] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, may be
[13:05:45] <Pyrrhus> or go the functional way : your default route loads a blank component, which resolves data, and re-routes after.
[13:05:46] <cristatus> will file a bug report about this
[13:05:58] <cristatus> to us it's very important
[13:06:10] <cristatus> I think it's very common use case
[13:06:19] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: I can imagine. I ´ve use the resolve feature a lot as well
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[13:13:45] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/guide/router.html#!#register-providers
[13:13:57] <cristatus> see the note bellow
[13:13:59] <cristatus> `We must register router providers in bootstrap. We cannot wait to do it in AppComponent.`
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[13:14:05] <cristatus> means end of road for us?
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[13:14:32] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: no, but you will need to do some restructuring.
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[13:16:14] <cristatus> may be move main app at '/' route
[13:16:27] <cristatus> and make all it's children routes
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[13:16:55] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: that might work. resolve all you data there and then route to the children.
[13:17:15] <cristatus> yes, may be
[13:17:17] <cristatus> will try
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[13:20:44] <Dalip> help
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[13:21:26] <Dalip> HELP
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[13:22:03] <Dalip> Hi
[13:22:34] <Pyrrhus> please state the nature of your medical emergency ?
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[13:22:58] <Pyrrhus> (I always wanted to say that)
[13:23:03] <Pyrrhus> oh, how rude...
[13:23:12] <uru> Pyrrhus: Clearly a mental issue preventing the subject from explaining their problem ;)
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[13:23:41] <Pyrrhus> uru: that must surely be it :)
[13:23:50] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, yes it worked :)
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[13:23:58] <cristatus> but I am seeing another issue
[13:24:13] <cristatus> ngOnInit of app component is called twice
[13:24:38] <cristatus> can deal with it
[13:24:41] <cristatus> not a big issue
[13:24:45] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: that probably means the route is triggered twice
[13:24:59] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, no
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[13:25:15] <cristatus> it's called twice when app loads
[13:25:30] <cristatus> I think because of html5 push state?
[13:25:45] <cristatus> as the server will fist load '/'
[13:25:54] <cristatus> and then angular will do routing
[13:26:02] <cristatus> say if I have this url
[13:26:19] <cristatus> localhost:8000/me
[13:26:27] <cristatus> where /me is showing user profile data
[13:26:44] <cristatus> so push state fallback of server
[13:26:48] <cristatus> may be causing this
[13:27:01] <cristatus> but it's fine
[13:27:07] <cristatus> not big issue
[13:27:14] <cristatus> as our main problem is resolved
[13:27:20] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, thanks for everything
[13:27:41] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: np ;)
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[13:28:53] <verwilst> if i have an item.service.ts, if i want to list all items on one page, i can use ItemService.getItems(), what about i want to display the 5 greatest items on another, do i create another method? ItemService.getGreatestItems(limit) for example?
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[13:29:06] <verwilst> which calls another api URL maybe
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[13:29:35] <verwilst> http://api/items and http://api/items/greatest/:limit ?
[13:29:49] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: depends. if you want to filter the entire set clientside, just do that :)
[13:30:06] <Pyrrhus> or do you expect ginormous sets ?
[13:30:18] <verwilst> might be
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[13:30:50] <Pyrrhus> via backend is always safe if you expect huge sets.
[13:31:08] <verwilst> the way i did it above you mean
[13:31:28] <Pyrrhus> clientside is often easier (just call another method on you service that already holds the set)
[13:31:30] <verwilst> clientside = always use http://api/items and throw away everything but a few after sorting
[13:31:41] <Pyrrhus> yup.
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[13:31:52] <verwilst> i'd rather do it serverside :-)
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[13:32:28] <Pyrrhus> but then you´d deny the scrapers an easy way to download all of your items ! ;)
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[13:33:35] <verwilst> what about when i need subitems for each item.. do it with a lot of calls? get a SubitemService->getSubitem(id) for each item i get?
[13:33:56] <verwilst> or http://api/items_with_subitems ? :-p
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[13:34:15] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: lazy loading of subsets.
[13:34:24] <verwilst> http://api/items?include_subitems=1
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[13:34:33] <verwilst> lazy loading? how?
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[13:34:53] <verwilst> so with separate calls
[13:35:05] <Pyrrhus> lazy as in only load them when needed. my tree only loads it´s leaf-nodes when a node expands.
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[13:35:43] <Pyrrhus> so the service has a getNode() to get one node, and a getNodeChildren() to get the kiddies (which are also nodes)
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[13:36:34] <Pyrrhus> and when the node is collapsed again, discard the childnodes.
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[13:39:04] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: this is a rough version of what I did (with nested items and a service providing the data) http://plnkr.co/edit/GcMT1o0xXW9OgETdWvwn?p=preview
[13:39:06] <cristatus> Pyrrhus, so that double ngOnInit issue is resolved too with nested router-outlet
[13:39:27] <Pyrrhus> cristatus: nice !
[13:39:56] <cristatus> so now I can see new router api as good as old
[13:40:01] <cristatus> :)
[13:40:03] <cristatus> but not well documented
[13:41:41] <cristatus> only one downside
[13:41:51] <cristatus> the app dom structure is changed
[13:42:11] <cristatus> we have one more nesting
[13:42:15] <cristatus> but it's obvious
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[13:45:36] <DocMika> re all
[13:46:41] <Pyrrhus> plop DocMika :P
[13:47:01] <Kiss> hi!
[13:47:58] <iateadonut> i'm grabbing some data from the DOM, so i'm wondering does angular wait for the document to load before it executes?
[13:48:06] <iateadonut> or do i need to do something like onload()?
[13:48:11] <Kiss> Can anyone help me? How could I see when data in my form has been changed? from controller?
[13:48:41] <iateadonut> ng-change='function()'
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[13:49:12] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: the form has a ´dirty´ property if anything has changed.
[13:49:12] <iateadonut> so one of your input fields is: <input id='field1' ng-change='ft()' >
[13:49:32] <Kiss> iateadonut, it doesn't work for form tag
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[13:49:54] <iateadonut> and then you define your functions $scope.ft = function() { do stuff here; }
[13:49:57] <iateadonut> for form tag?
[13:50:08] <iateadonut> i thought you were talking about any input field
[13:50:35] <Kiss> iateadonut, yes I need just detect any changes in all inputs
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[13:51:09] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: the form has a ´dirty´ property if anything has changed.
[13:51:25] <Kiss> Pyrrhus, I'm using components with isolated scop
[13:51:59] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: if you built your components correctly, the parent form should still be marked dirty on a change.
[13:52:51] <Kiss> Pyrrhus, problem that I have two components like siblings
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[13:53:56] <Kiss> I know how to track parents changes, but what if I have http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38082520/angularjs-1-5-how-could-i-get-event-when-something-changes-inside-template-compo/38087126#38087126
[13:53:59] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: that´s no different from having two regular inputs :)
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[13:55:08] <DocMika> :)
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[13:55:46] <Kiss> so I need to watch if my form will have changes, I need to call function in my Controller
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[13:56:35] <pacMakaveli> Hey guys, I can't find anything on AngularJS official documentation ( or maybe I'm not looking in the right place ) about the selector 'method'? inside the @Component .. what exactly is it and does it do? angular2 btw.. thanks!
[13:57:04] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: I´d say your form controller has to watch for the dirty state to be set by one of its children :) what do you want to achieve ?
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[13:58:12] <Kiss> Pyrrhus, how I could watch dirty state?)
[13:58:46] <Pyrrhus> with a $watch ? my ng1 knowledge is a bit rusty...
[13:59:14] <Pyrrhus> normally, I´d check the dirty state in something like a submit handler.
[13:59:27] <Pyrrhus> but it depends on what you want to do...
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[14:00:49] <Pyrrhus> pacMakaveli: what do you mean by ´selector method´ ?
[14:01:23] <pacMakaveli> @Component({ selector: 'my-whatever-this-means-selector' })
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[14:01:58] <Pyrrhus> pacMakaveli: that´s the component´s DOM tag.
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[14:02:16] <Pyrrhus> like <my-custom-component></my-custom-component>
[14:02:32] <pacMakaveli> ooohh..
[14:02:44] <pacMakaveli> *quits internet*
[14:02:52] <Kiss> Pyrrhus, I will try again, but seems it won't work correctly in isolated scope
[14:02:52] <pacMakaveli> Pyrrhus: thanks!
[14:02:53] <Pyrrhus> it´s not a method btw, but a property ;)
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[14:03:29] <pacMakaveli> Pyrrhus: any guidance in regards to documentation? I'm very new to AngularJS and the way I'm picking it up is by creating an Ionic2 app..
[14:04:00] <Pyrrhus> pacMakaveli: follow the tutorial, the whole set of docs keeps on referencing that.
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[14:04:25] <Pyrrhus> it works very well as a dev-guide, but less so as a reference guide....
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[14:04:55] <DocMika> Plop senayar
[14:04:56] <Pyrrhus> (´it´ being the whole set of docs)
[14:05:07] <senayar> yop yop, hey :)
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[14:05:21] <pacMakaveli> Pyrrhus: many thanks! Will do so
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[14:06:16] <verwilst> Pyrrhus: makes sense, go by isExpanded
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[14:06:25] <verwilst> i will use pagination, so that will be alright probably
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[14:06:46] <verwilst> is it possible to use stuff like draggable en droppable and sortable ( jquery ) in angular2?
[14:07:45] <DocMika> verwilst: yes, you can add that kind of thing
[14:08:25] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: I´d add that last. adding jQuery is an extra level of misery ;)
[14:08:27] <iateadonut> sorry to post twice; i think my question got lost in the form discussion - i think my i'm grabbing some data from the DOM, so i'm wondering does angular wait for the document to load before it executes? or do i need to do something like onload()?
[14:08:45] <DocMika> verwilst: Pyrrhus was fastest than me
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[14:09:01] <DocMika> iateadonut: your question is unclear
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[14:09:41] <DocMika> iateadonut: and you should not "grab data from the dom", you should have inputs and data that you know you'll use ^-^
[14:10:18] <icebox> DocMika: please, repeat it twice :P
[14:10:30] <DocMika> icebox: ? :o
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[14:10:51] <icebox> DocMika: that statement... :)
[14:10:53] <DocMika> icebox: Did I say something stupid?
[14:11:00] <icebox> DocMika: no... it is very important
[14:11:01] <iateadonut> i mean to say i have a element with data created by html. i want to use the value from that element in a angular function.
[14:11:08] <iateadonut> (i asked twice so you should answer twice)
[14:11:10] <DocMika> icebox: :)
[14:11:31] <bee> anyone using django rest auth with angular
[14:11:54] <DocMika> iateadonut: html doesn't "create" data. Could you provide a plnkr with your example?
[14:11:56] <iateadonut> i want to make sure that the function does not execute before the body of the html document has loaded
[14:12:23] <bee> iateadonut: is it in a controller?
[14:12:32] <iateadonut> the function is in a controller
[14:12:46] <bee> you can use a resolve method I think
[14:12:58] <bee> it runs the code before the controller is initiated
[14:14:05] <Kiss> Pyrrhus, it works just once, after second changes doesn't worlk *(
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[14:18:19] <verwilst> ah so you still have to use jquery for it?
[14:18:24] <verwilst> you can't do it in angular? ;-)
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[14:24:52] <DocMika> verwilst: you might do it with a directive, but this is precisely the kind of thing jquery is still a good idea for
[14:25:09] <Kiss> hey)
[14:25:35] <DocMika> don't reinvent the wheel, all that, and this kind of directive only adds tons of bs to write while being absolutely not interesting for the model
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[14:27:32] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: http://www.primefaces.org/primeng/#/dragdrop
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[14:28:08] <icebox> verwilst: or http://bevacqua.github.io/angular-dragula/
[14:28:32] <Pyrrhus> icebox: not ng2 ?
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[14:28:44] <Pyrrhus> mine is :P
[14:29:21] <icebox> Pyrrhus: :)
[14:29:46] <icebox> Pyrrhus: did you resolved it?
[14:29:48] <Pyrrhus> icebox: thanks for dropping the @Output hint btw :P
[14:29:56] <icebox> Pyrrhus: ah ok :)
[14:30:24] <Pyrrhus> icebox: well yes, in my plunk. but IRL there´s an observable involved and it won´t (yet) work...
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[14:37:47] <Kiss> Pyrrhus
[14:37:55] <Kiss> Pyrrhus, please
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[14:38:26] <verwilst> instead of <div *ngFor="let item of items">{{ item.name}}</div>, could i do <div *ngFor="let item of getItems()">{{ item.name}}</div> ?
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[14:38:41] <Kiss> Pyrrhus,I tried do this $scope.$watch('ctrl.slotEditor.$dirty', function(newValue, oldValue) { ctrl.slotEditor.$setDirty(); });
[14:38:48] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: I can´t really do anything else without a plunk demonstrating what you want.
[14:39:12] <verwilst> i tried, but it seems to be looping then
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[14:39:47] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: you do understand that the dirty flag only gets set once for the form right ? once its marked dirty, it´s done.
[14:40:12] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: but you still havent told me what it actually is that you´re trying to achieve.
[14:41:08] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: dunno, but if the first one works, just stick with it. it´s just one assignment :)
[14:41:22] <Kiss> Pyrrhus, ok I need call function in controller when something happen in my form - data changed in one of input
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[14:42:10] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: yes, but why ? for validation purposes, the dirty flag is ´it´, but what do you want to do when the data changes ?
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[14:44:54] <Kiss> no I need call to update another controller through the service method
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[14:45:54] <Kiss> Pyrrhus, when something happen in ,y controller's form so I need always watch it
[14:45:59] <Pyrrhus> if both see the same value in the service, it´s updated automatically through 2-way binding right ?
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[14:46:19] <Pyrrhus> so you can just $watch it ?
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[14:46:45] <Kiss> Pyrrhus, yes I need watch changes
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[14:47:11] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: it´s getting too hard this way, please plunk it so we can see...
[14:47:33] <Kiss> Pyrrhus. it's not easy..
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[14:48:36] <Pyrrhus> it isn´t for me either, trying to figure out your problem ;)
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[14:50:41] <icebox> Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.
[14:50:49] <DocMika> icebox: nice formula
[14:51:37] <Pyrrhus> icebox: does that refer to actually trying to use ng2 ? :P
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[14:52:11] <icebox> Pyrrhus: no... about people working in the vacuum.
[14:52:47] <Pyrrhus> yeah, I kinda got that ;)
[14:52:57] <verwilst> i'm thinking of putting my services under app/services and my model classes under app/models
[14:53:01] <verwilst> what'yall think
[14:53:02] <verwilst> :-)
[14:53:14] <Pyrrhus> like me saying ´that damn eventemitter is still not working, plz to fix ?´
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[14:53:20] <verwilst> now item.ts and item.service.ts are under shared/
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[14:54:04] <DocMika> verwilst: well, it seems pretty obvious and thus very logical
[14:54:05] <Pyrrhus> verwilst: afaik shared stuff should still be in shared. the styleguide has something to say about that.
[14:54:23] <verwilst> ok :-p
[14:54:35] <DocMika> otherwise, just putt everything in a folder named "stuff"
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[14:55:22] <DocMika> personnally I'd love seeing "ordering by features" being a thing
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[14:55:26] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: that´s already the name of the project, and thus the root directory ;)
[14:55:35] <DocMika> :D
[14:55:40] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: that ´s also in the styleguide !
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[14:56:12] <Kiss> https://plnkr.co/edit/RgYApV5NQwX0jeMjIW3v?p=preview
[14:56:17] <Pyrrhus> but if it´s a reused (shared) feature, it should probably still be in shared :)
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[14:56:25] <Kiss> Pyrrhus
[14:56:38] <Kiss> Pyrrhus,https://plnkr.co/edit/RgYApV5NQwX0jeMjIW3v?p=preview
[14:57:12] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: your plunk crashed my firefox...
[14:57:25] <Pyrrhus> trying chrome :)
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[14:57:51] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: That is always a good start when you try to help someone.
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[14:58:29] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: more an FF problem methinks :)
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[14:59:19] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: ok, I see two inputs and a controller. what should happen when I do something ?
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[15:00:13] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: FF has no known problem to man, especially since they started to do multi core :)
[15:00:47] <Pyrrhus> it has just as many problems as chrome, in the sense that both sometimes crash on me ;)
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[15:01:27] <icebox> Kiss: if you are trying communication between components... One-way dataflow in components http://plnkr.co/edit/hsmQV2j8tHs1ANYed1pS?p=preview
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[15:01:59] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: the watch for the dirty state also works. but I still don´t know what you want to achieve when one of the inputs changes ?
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[15:04:34] <Kiss> Pyrrhus,icebox - i just need every time when you typing something in both inputs call function in controller - any - in example call console.log
[15:04:45] <Kiss> is it clear? or not ^)
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[15:05:16] <Pyrrhus> so put a watch on both variables ?
[15:05:50] <icebox> Kiss: I think there is an example in the docs... and there are a few resources googling... what is the concern?
[15:05:54] <Pyrrhus> but what´s the bigger picture ? what do you want to achieve ?
[15:05:57] <Kiss> yes, it is way to solve goal but if I have 6 inputs?
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[15:06:54] <icebox> Kiss: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngKeyup
[15:07:15] <Kiss> I don't know how many inputs will be in future so I want watch form in like parent scope of all of this inputs
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[15:07:51] <icebox> Kiss: no need for watchers
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[15:08:05] <Kiss> icebox, thanks) but also in will be some manipulations with mouse
[15:08:17] <icebox> Kiss: sorry?
[15:09:07] <Kiss> icebox, if I will have checkbox or radio buttons or select
[15:09:14] <icebox> Kiss: what for?
[15:09:26] <icebox> Kiss: I am afraid we are talking about different things
[15:09:27] <Kiss> icebox,inside my form
[15:09:47] <Pyrrhus> icebox: he means changes in all kinds of form elements, not just texts.
[15:09:54] <Kiss> yes
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[15:10:24] <icebox> Pyrrhus: same thing for mouse events... usually reading docs helps
[15:10:35] <Kiss> and $drity - is nice approach but it works just one time after - always true
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[15:12:20] <suresh_> hi
[15:12:32] <icebox> Pyrrhus: and I agree I didn't understand the aim
[15:12:41] <icebox> suresh_: ciao
[15:12:53] <suresh_> hello
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[15:13:18] <suresh_> is there any one
[15:13:35] <icebox> no
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[15:13:39] <DocMika> xD
[15:13:43] <Pyrrhus> haha :)
[15:14:30] <Kiss> Pyrrhus, icebox, aim very complex, in this case i Just need watch changes in my element's form and call some function ( could be alert - does't matter)
[15:15:11] <icebox> Kiss: very complex? nowadays if you cannot exlpain it in 140 chars, it doesn't exist :)
[15:15:23] <Pyrrhus> icebox: brutal :)
[15:15:53] <icebox> Pyrrhus: well... brutal against tw fashion :)
[15:16:18] <Pyrrhus> Kiss: what I´ve done in the past : put all form values in a single object (model) and track changes on that with $watch.
[15:16:29] <Pyrrhus> presto. done.
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[15:17:31] <icebox> Kiss: did you try custom model update triggers? https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/forms
[15:17:47] <Kiss> Pyrrhus, i read my mind )) I thinking about it.But thought it will be not very well
[15:19:39] <sweb> i using FileSaver for save response angular http response ... i config responseType as blob ... download file using curl will work well but using $http response.data and using Blob and savefile file seems be corrupted
[15:19:49] <Kiss> *You read
[15:20:06] <Kiss> icebox, will check Thanks)
[15:20:17] <icebox> Kiss: you are welcome
[15:20:57] <Pyrrhus> sweb: have you checked what´s actually in the (corrupt) file ?
[15:21:37] <sweb> http://pastebin.com/s4FWEDC4
[15:22:12] <Pyrrhus> that´s not the contents of the downloaded file, is it ?
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[15:22:24] <bencc> in angular2 in typescript, how do I import a js file like moment.js?
[15:23:06] <icebox> bencc: the question is... how to import js libs in typescript?
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[15:23:44] <icebox> bencc: as usual
[15:24:12] <sevcsik> bencc: check out the typings project
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[15:24:15] <sweb> Pyrrhus: response.data has blob content 'wired characters'
[15:24:22] <icebox> bencc: load js file with your preferred loader, use typings and so on
[15:24:42] <bencc> icebox: I'm using systemjs. what's the syntax to impot js lib?
[15:25:02] <icebox> bencc: perfect... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33938561/how-to-use-momentjs-in-typescript-with-systemjs
[15:25:36] <icebox> bencc: (and it is not angular affair) :)
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[15:25:38] <Pyrrhus> sweb: and what´s the content of myfiles.xls after downloading ?
[15:26:08] <Pyrrhus> (´wired characters´ does sound like an invalid xls file btw)
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[15:26:56] <sweb> Pyrrhus: valid file is 6K and saving using blob give me 11K file
[15:27:08] <sweb> Encoding or etc problem ?
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[15:27:40] <Pyrrhus> sweb: dunno, examine the contents of the 11K version and see if the original 6K is there, to start with :)
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[15:28:14] <Pyrrhus> maybe there´s 5K of whitespace before the valid file headers :)
[15:28:38] <icebox> sweb: what is the curl command you say it is ok?
[15:28:55] <sweb> Icebox: yeah CURL request is ok
[15:29:04] <icebox> sweb: what is it?
[15:29:19] <sweb> seems be encoding problem ... start of both file is same "PK"
[15:29:26] <Pyrrhus> zipfile.
[15:29:29] <icebox> sweb: if the curl is ok, you can reproduce with a similar $http call
[15:29:33] <sweb> yeah zip file
[15:29:44] <Pyrrhus> so the corrupt bit is at the end ?
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[15:30:54] <Pyrrhus> like say, twice the same blob ? just guessing...
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[15:31:02] <sweb> valid file : https://i.imgsafe.org/3cd8dd6179.png
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[15:31:23] <sweb> invalid file : https://i.imgsafe.org/3cda3a929f.png
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[15:31:47] <sweb> entirely different :/
[15:31:53] <icebox> sweb: use this one https://github.com/alferov/angular-file-saver
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[15:32:37] <dsdeiz_> not possible to do this {{ Object.keys(someObject).length }}?
[15:32:48] <Pyrrhus> icebox: I was under the impression he already was...
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[15:33:04] <Pyrrhus> dsdeiz_: no.
[15:33:10] <icebox> Pyrrhus: well... I tried it and it works ok...
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[15:33:44] <Pyrrhus> icebox: whachu talkin bout willis ?
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[15:33:56] <Pyrrhus> the file-saver ?
[15:33:59] <icebox> Pyrrhus: kimberly? :)
[15:34:08] <icebox> Pyrrhus: yep
[15:34:22] <Pyrrhus> no, diff´rent strokes. I´m ancient ;)
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[15:34:34] <icebox> Pyrrhus: there is an example in the README
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[15:34:54] <Pyrrhus> file-saver works for me too, I´ve used it in the past.
[15:35:07] <sweb> icebox: problem is not about the Filesaver ... it seems be encoding or somthing else
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[15:36:26] <icebox> sweb: not an angular affair.. because it works like curl :)
[15:36:46] <icebox> sweb: more... exactly the same... http protocol :)
[15:37:37] <sweb> icebox: problem is between clients ... CURL and angualar $http
[15:37:52] <icebox> sweb: sorry... I don't follow you
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[15:39:02] <icebox> sweb: if your curl call is ok, you can do the same with a $http call
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[15:42:07] <icebox> Pyrrhus: it is not nice... that Object.keys fails silently
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[15:43:08] <Pyrrhus> icebox: like anything that interpolation doesn´t do, right ?
[15:43:26] <Pyrrhus> you´re right though, I forgot about that answer. sorry dsdeiz_
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[15:44:40] <icebox> Pyrrhus: interesting http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18490199/issue-with-ngshow
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[15:46:06] <icebox> Pyrrhus: then adding $scope.Object = Object... I get https://docs.angularjs.org/error/$parse/isecobj?p0=Object.keys(foo)%20%7C%20json
[15:46:19] <Pyrrhus> oh wow. I wouldn´t have expected that to work in a million years :)
[15:46:38] <icebox> Pyrrhus: me too
[15:46:54] <Pyrrhus> I never do much more than check for bools or use >,< and = in expressions...
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[15:47:12] <icebox> Pyrrhus: agreed, me too
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[15:58:34] <Pyrrhus> wtf >
[15:58:39] <Pyrrhus> srsly ?
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[15:59:10] <Pyrrhus> the name of the eventemitter is magic and must be <myvarname>Change or it won´t even fire ?
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[16:00:03] <dsdeiz_> so like easiest is to create a new method that would evaluate that expression?
[16:00:06] <Pyrrhus> (spent 2 hours looking over a extra ´d´ as in fooChanged: EventEmitter = new EventEmitter
[16:00:26] <Pyrrhus> dsdeiz_: yes, that´s what I do.
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[16:00:40] <Pyrrhus> just make it return the length for comparison.
[16:00:55] <Pyrrhus> grrr... I HATE magic keywords...
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[16:02:07] <dsdeiz_> gotcha. thx!
[16:02:16] <Pyrrhus> dsdeiz_: np !
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[16:12:34] <DocMika> well :) learning is fun but tiring
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[16:14:24] <Pyrrhus> it is yes, especially in these magic keyword cases :(
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[16:15:16] <Pyrrhus> why not simply define the emitter like foo.onChange(myEventEmitter). as a method. not a goddamn postfixed ´Change´.
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[16:15:49] <Pyrrhus> imho that´s just crap design, pardon my french.
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[16:16:03] <DocMika> è_é french is not only for vulgarity
[16:16:13] <DocMika> even if that's kind of what we are best at
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[16:17:24] <Pyrrhus> hmm, makes me wonder where ´pardon my french´ as an expression comes from...
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[16:17:41] <Pyrrhus> probably english hatred of everything french...
[16:17:55] <Pyrrhus> (I´m not brittish though)
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[16:18:41] <Pyrrhus> still, you should never ever attribute behaviour to a magic postfixed keyword. no matter you nationality...
[16:19:06] <DocMika> what the heck are you talking about? i was on a meeting and missed the last hour
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[16:21:34] <Pyrrhus> if you use @Input() foo:string;, the accompanying output annotation should read @Output() fooChange: EventEmitter = new EventEmitter();
[16:21:58] <DocMika> yes
[16:22:01] <Pyrrhus> notice the postfixed `Change` on the variable name. name it anything else, and everything breaks.
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[16:22:03] <DocMika> is that not the case?
[16:22:09] <DocMika> wait
[16:22:17] <DocMika> you MUST add "Change" to your var name
[16:22:18] <DocMika> ?
[16:22:18] <DocMika> oO
[16:22:22] <Pyrrhus> yes.
[16:22:46] <Pyrrhus> that´s the rant. took me two hours to notice I had called it `Changed`.
[16:23:00] <DocMika> but didn't it work sooner in your plunker?
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[16:23:23] <Pyrrhus> yup, but I made that typo in my real project, so it broke.
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[16:23:47] <Pyrrhus> still, I think its bad design to use magic postfixes.
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[16:24:35] <DocMika> that's a bit errorProne, and having to add "@OUTPUT" before and importing that annotation is quite enough (in my mind) to realise that "hey, this is an output"
[16:25:09] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: thing is, you can have multiple @input and @output, angular has to know which belong together.
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[16:25:20] <Pyrrhus> but a postfix is a shitty solution
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[16:26:23] <Pyrrhus> I have nothing against annotations, java is full of them (and even php nowadays), but this takes the cake.
[16:26:30] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: yeah but if you call every input the same way, it's not a generic prefix that will fix it
[16:26:32] <Pyrrhus> which is a lie, btw. there is no cake.
[16:26:38] <DocMika> what cake?
[16:26:42] <DocMika> this was a triumph
[16:26:44] <Pyrrhus> NO CAKE ! :)
[16:26:48] <DocMika> I'm making a note here
[16:26:51] <DocMika> huge success
[16:27:01] <DocMika> for the goooood of all of us
[16:27:04] <DocMika> except the one who are dead
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[16:27:18] <DocMika> but there's no sense crying over every mistake
[16:27:23] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: what do you mean by ´not a generic prefix that will fix it ?
[16:27:25] <DocMika> you just keep on trying till you run out of cake
[16:27:49] <Pyrrhus> true. but this is not my mistake, it´s angulars dev teams mistake ;)
[16:28:05] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: well, if I have "@input test" and "@output test", it is clear the second is the output of the first okay?
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[16:28:53] <DocMika> So if I have "@input test", "@input test2", @input test3" and the corresponding @output test1 , @output test2 and @output test3 it's easy
[16:28:57] <DocMika> but if I have
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[16:29:18] <senayar> How you manage bindings.value.currentValue !== bindings.value.previousValue because on first call it will always be true as previousValue is a constructor with : UNINITIALIZED_VALUE
[16:29:27] <DocMika> "@input test", "@input test", @input test" and the corresponding @output testChange , @output testChange and @output testChange
[16:29:33] <senayar> this thing is stupid
[16:29:40] <DocMika> having added "change" at the end suxxxxx
[16:29:50] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: my point exactly
[16:29:56] <icebox> senayar: there is a property isFirstChange
[16:30:05] <senayar> wow =
[16:30:06] <DocMika> senayar: or pristine
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[16:30:25] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: yes, I agreed with you. But you then asked for explanation.
[16:30:32] <DocMika> as if you didn't understood your own point.
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[16:30:41] <icebox> senayar: https://toddmotto.com/angular-1-5-lifecycle-hooks#using-isfirstchange
[16:30:49] <Pyrrhus> DocMika: something was probably lost in transit :)
[16:31:01] <Pyrrhus> I bet it was the cake...
[16:31:09] <senayar> nice thank you icebox you rocks
[16:31:11] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: no, it was the companion cube
[16:31:26] <icebox> senayar: you are welcome
[16:31:27] <DocMika> never felt so much attachment so quick for a non speaking, non animated npc in a game.
[16:31:28] <Pyrrhus> what, it fell through the portal ?
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[16:31:52] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: no, silly if it did we would find it on the other side
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[16:32:19] <Pyrrhus> vertically stacked portals so it keeps falling ?
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[16:33:11] <Pyrrhus> (although I loved the gameplay, I couldn´t play the actual game. it felt so lonely)
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[16:34:52] <DocMika> Pyrrhus: The first game was 3hours long, the second was multi. You're bad and you should feel bad
[16:35:07] * Pyrrhus feels bad
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[16:36:06] <diphtherial> spoiler alert, it was incinerated. more specifically, you incinerated it, 'it' being your best friend
[16:36:11] <diphtherial> your only friend, in fact
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[16:36:35] <Pyrrhus> so, still lonely. I was right after all.
[16:36:57] <diphtherial> never really got around to playing the second one, but the gradual escalation to never walking more than a step or two without portals was magnificent
[16:37:06] <diphtherial> (in the first one)
[16:37:37] <Pyrrhus> diphtherial: true. hence I loved the gameplay, but not the actual game...
[16:37:43] <DocMika> diphtherial: I actually got stuck once in the game
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[16:37:57] <DocMika> I couldn't open any portal and was really wondering how to get on the other side of the room
[16:38:11] <DocMika> my roommate entered, saw me stuck, asked me what I was doing
[16:38:22] <Pyrrhus> so you gave up and walked ?
[16:38:23] <DocMika> I answered "well it's very hard here, can't find where to place the exit portal"
[16:38:51] <DocMika> he looked at me, sighed, took my controller, walked my character near the exit door, gave it back to me and said "yeah, portal are addictives, but still. "
[16:39:00] <Pyrrhus> hehe :)
[16:39:31] <DocMika> I was like....... and couldn't resign telling him I had been stuck there for almost one hour without even THINKING about walking
[16:39:38] <DocMika> u_u" that game was AWESOME
[16:40:23] <DocMika> That was DocMika, back to the studios! I'm leaving
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[16:41:49] <Pyrrhus> so, popuating a component instance via a service : constructor or ngOnInit ? and why ?
[16:42:33] <Pyrrhus> should be an extra ´l´ in there. populating.
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[16:43:33] <Pyrrhus> I had it in ngOnInit, but now I have a subscription to an observable in the constructor (so that´s not empty anymore). best move them together ?
[16:43:53] <icebox> Pyrrhus: it is explained here https://toddmotto.com/angular-1-5-lifecycle-hooks#using-oninit
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[16:44:10] <icebox> Pyrrhus: (yes, you can apply the explanation also to angular 2) :)
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[16:49:05] <Pyrrhus> icebox: I understand that anything to do with bindings should be in ngOnInit. but it doesn´t really say anything else (the ´ almost think of $onInit as some kind of constructor ´ feels a bit weird in ng2/TS context)
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[16:49:41] <Pyrrhus> I also read for ng2 not to do ´heavy lifting´ in the constructor. but what´s heavy ? (apart from the binding stuff, you need ngOnInit for that)
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[16:50:58] <Pyrrhus> so, I guess it´s the accepted style to have an empty constructor and do everything in ngOnInit ?
[16:51:06] <icebox> Pyrrhus: yes
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[16:51:44] <Pyrrhus> I can live with that :)
[16:52:51] <icebox> Pyrrhus: due to http://www.drdobbs.com/cpp/data-attribute-notation-in-c/184409291
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[16:54:47] <icebox> Pyrrhus: cit. At this point, there are no surprises: A class is defined in terms of its components, or "attributes."
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[16:55:38] <icebox> Pyrrhus: in ngOnInit the "attributes" or the components are less coupled than in the constructor with the class itself
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[16:56:28] <ivegotasthma> I used npm-check-updates to update the dependencies of my angular2 project, any idea what to do about the angular core problems?
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[16:57:05] <Pyrrhus> but using TS, we have already defined the class properties before the actual constructor, right ? (that doesn´t hold for pure js I guess)
[16:57:14] <icebox> Pyrrhus: don't forget the lifecycle of the component... when the constructor is called and when OnInit... also that is relevant
[16:58:07] <Pyrrhus> icebox: yes, I should read some more about that. I have a tentative grasp, but not a firm hold...
[16:58:08] <icebox> Pyrrhus: pure js... hoisting :)
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[16:59:59] <Pyrrhus> icebox: ah yes, I ´ve heard that mentioned earlier :) I´ve done too little js (apart from some jquery and ng1) to actually be very familiar with that.
[17:00:17] <Pyrrhus> gotta run now.... laterz !
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[17:00:24] <icebox> p0k0: bye
[17:00:41] <icebox> p0k0: ops... mistell sorry
[17:00:44] <icebox> off... bye
[17:00:56] <p0k0> Bye
[17:01:06] <p0k0> :)
[17:01:08] <icebox> :P
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[17:08:39] <sam__> hi
[17:09:15] <sam__> can anyone help me out in downloading and installing angular js on my new laptop
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[17:11:37] <ivegotasthma> could someone tell me how to debug this missing load? `Error loading http://localhost:3000/symbol-observable as "symbol-observable" from http://localhost:3000/node_modules/rxjs/Observable.js` should I modify my systemjs builder or downgrade my dependencies?
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[17:14:02] <sam__> k;
[17:14:08] <sam__> ??
[17:14:58] <verwilst> Hm, i'm getting ORIGINAL EXCEPTION: TypeError: Cannot read property 'name' of undefined, when i do {{ item.name }} in item-detail.component.html.. My Component has a item: Item; entry in the class, and i do this.itemService.getItem(id).then(item => this.item = item);
[17:15:16] <verwilst> putting console.log() stuff in the constructor of Item shows everything just fine..
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[17:16:51] <verwilst> why is it undefined then? :'(
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[17:25:01] <Guest_84757> Allah is doing
[17:25:14] <Guest_84757> sun is not doing Allah is doing
[17:25:23] <Guest_84757> moon is not doing Allah is doing
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[17:25:44] <Guest_84757> stars are not doing Allah is doing
[17:26:03] <Guest_84757> planets are not doing Allah is doing
[17:26:19] <diphtherial> fascinating
[17:26:54] <diphtherial> not really a convincing argument unless you already believe it, though
[17:27:21] <ivegotasthma> ^
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[17:27:56] <Guest_84757> galaxies are not doing Allah is doing
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[17:28:23] <ivegotasthma> doing what?
[17:28:36] <diphtherial> plus, this is a channel about angular; i'm sure your efforts would be more productive elsewhere
[17:28:48] <uru> Indeed, we are all Angulans here
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[17:29:21] <uru> May we all be acute!
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[17:29:44] <verwilst> Allah seems like a busy guy, with all that doing
[17:29:47] <Guest_84757> oceans are not doing Allah is doing
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[17:30:04] <diphtherial> we get the picture
[17:30:22] <diphtherial> let me know if there's something Allah is not doing
[17:30:22] <verwilst> so, anyone knows why my item is undefined? :-D
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[17:31:36] <Guest_84757> mountains are not doing Allah is doing
[17:31:48] <Guest_84757> trees are not doing Allah is doing
[17:31:49] <verwilst> it might be .then(response => new Advisory(response.json()))..
[17:31:55] <Limarson1> verwilst: Are you doing the service-call on init or in the constructor?
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[17:32:09] <verwilst> ngOnInit()
[17:32:24] <verwilst> it gets called because i've put a console.log() in there
[17:32:32] <ivegotasthma> I've been fighting his HTTP error for a couple of hours, any idea why it crashes when it reached .subscribe on an Observable? The error is too cryptic for me at this stage. The stacktrace from my code begins from line 19. https://dpaste.de/f73Q
[17:32:33] <verwilst> and in the constructor of the object
[17:33:04] <Limarson> verwilst: try to use {{item?.name}} instead, so it should only be evaluated when item arrived from the service
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[17:33:54] <Guest_84757> mom is not doing Allah is doing
[17:34:02] <Guest_84757> dad is not doing Allah is doing
[17:34:10] <verwilst> {{ item?.name }} works Limarson!
[17:34:26] <Limarson> verwilst: If that doesn't work, try to print out {{item | json}} to see if it's filled
[17:34:28] <verwilst> why do all my other http.get'ed objects work then?
[17:34:29] <Limarson> verwilst: nice :()
[17:34:30] <ivegotasthma> Guest_84757: listen, can Allah fix my code because I don't like bacon that much anyway.
[17:34:39] <verwilst> pure coincidence?
[17:34:45] <uru> verwilst: It could be because you are not assigning an initial value to the variable, so it is undefined until you give it a value
[17:35:34] <Limarson> verwilst: The service call might be async, so item is not filled on load when angular is already evaluating the expression, so you could set an initial value or use the ?-operator to make sure item is set before the expression gets evaluated
[17:36:05] <verwilst> ah yeah
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[17:36:10] <Guest_84757> boss is not doing Allah is doing
[17:36:11] <verwilst> my other classes have Item[]
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[17:36:19] <verwilst> so they get an empty list first
[17:36:24] <Guest_84757> job is not doing Allah is doing
[17:36:28] <verwilst> and a few ms later it returns the rest
[17:36:38] <verwilst> which makes it work like a charm
[17:36:43] <Guest_84757> dollar is not doing Allah is doing
[17:36:56] <verwilst> can somebody kick Guest_84757 ? :-)
[17:37:00] <Guest_84757> degree is not doing Allah is doing
[17:37:15] <Guest_84757> medicine is not doing Allah is doing
[17:37:29] <Guest_84757> customers are not doing Allah is doing
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[17:38:03] <diphtherial> ignore works as well
[17:38:14] <Guest_84757> you can not get a job without the permission of allah
[17:39:00] <uru> Is it still going? lol. Ignore is working very well
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[17:39:30] <ivegotasthma> Can anyone give me some advice for the HTTP error?
[17:40:17] <Guest_84757> you can not get married without the permission of allah
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[17:41:32] <Guest_84757> nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah
[17:41:39] <Limarson> ivegotasthma: Do you have import 'rxjs/Rx'; in your bootstrap file?
[17:41:46] <Limarson> ivegotasthma: That fixed some things for me
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[17:42:56] <Guest_84757> light is not doing Allah is doing
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[17:43:07] <Guest_84757> fan is not doing Allah is doing
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[17:43:30] <Darken-> what the fuck is this idiot talking about
[17:43:39] <ivegotasthma> Phahaha
[17:43:57] <Limarson> ivegotasthma: Got a solution?
[17:44:13] <ivegotasthma> Limarson: I'm receiving an Observable as object
[17:44:23] <ivegotasthma> but the moment I subscribe I get an error.
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[17:44:28] <Darken-> what is your question ivegotasthma?
[17:44:37] <Darken-> post a plunker of your issue reproduced
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[17:45:44] <ivegotasthma> I'm too much of a noob to be able to reproduce it right now, I can't reduce the complexity. I can give you a stacktrace, my code begins from line 19. https://dpaste.de/f73Q
[17:45:54] <ivegotasthma> Also an image of the firefox console https://i.imgur.com/HyloXin.png
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[17:46:18] <Guest_84757> businessess are not doing Allah is doing
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[17:46:31] <Guest_84757> america is not doing Allah is doing
[17:46:54] <Guest_84757> fire can not burn without the permission of allah
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[17:47:55] <ivegotasthma> Limarson: I `import 'rxjs/Rx';` in the bootstrap file but I keep getting the same thing
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[17:48:54] <Limarson> ivegotasthma: where does "updateOrders()" in your ngOnInit come from?
[17:49:03] <Guest_84757> knife can not cut without the permission of allah
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[17:49:25] <Limarson> ivegotasthma: Was it meant to be this.service.updateOrders() ?
[17:49:38] <ivegotasthma> Limarson: It's a function of the component, it's a line down.
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[17:49:58] <Limarson> ah I'm burned out lol it's right under the oninit
[17:49:59] <Limarson> lol
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[17:51:28] <Guest_84757> rulers are not doing Allah is doing
[17:52:04] <Limarson> ivegotasthma: It looks like it executes the XHR, so what does the request give back? is it maybe not valid json or something?
[17:52:14] <Limarson> ivegotasthma: And yes, the error is cryptic ;)
[17:52:39] <Guest_84757> governments are not doing Allah is doing
[17:52:53] <Darken-> ivegotasthma if you can't take the time to reproduce your issue, I can't take the time to help you :)
[17:52:53] <ivegotasthma> Limarson: This is the service, it's an almost carbon copy of the one from the `HTTP Client` guide, the difference is in the URL. https://dpaste.de/k8Sh
[17:53:25] <ivegotasthma> Darken-: I can't reproduce it because of the lack of ability
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[17:53:37] <Guest_84757> sleep is not doing Allah is doing
[17:53:38] <ivegotasthma> If I could reproduce it I would be able to fix it.
[17:53:50] <Darken-> not true
[17:53:59] <Darken-> you can rebuild the problem without knowing a solution to the problem
[17:54:04] <ivegotasthma> If I could reproduce it I would know where the problem is.
[17:54:12] <Darken-> not true
[17:54:19] <Limarson> ivegotasthma: I'd say "handleError" logs the exception to the console, so I'd guess the request returns crap
[17:54:24] <Darken-> if you can't reproduce the problem, then you didn't build the code
[17:54:31] <Darken-> if you didn't build the code, ask the person who did
[17:54:34] <Limarson> ivegotasthma: Does the net tab show you the result of the request?
[17:54:39] <Guest_84757> hunger is not doing Allah is doing
[17:54:45] <ivegotasthma> Darken-: It's from the angular website, that's why I'm here :)
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[17:55:28] <Guest_84757> food does not take away the hunger Allah takes away the hunger
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[17:55:53] <Guest_84757> water does not take away the thirst Allah takes away the thirst
[17:56:24] <icfantv> Guest_84757: hey man. there are venues for religious expression and i'm all for that. can you please keep it out of our technical chat room? thanks.
[17:56:26] <Guest_84757> seeing is not doing Allah is doing
[17:57:31] <ivegotasthma> Limarson: doesn't look like a request is going out
[17:58:06] <Lecht> ivegotasthma: Try it in chrome and see what message you get
[17:58:25] <Darken-> are there any ops to ban Guest_84757?
[17:58:41] <Limarson> Darken-: /ignore does the job :)
[17:58:52] <Guest_84757> hearing is not doing Allah is doing
[17:59:06] <Darken-> id rather him be banned
[17:59:09] <Darken-> or oper killed
[17:59:14] <Guest_84757> seasons are not doing Allah is doing
[17:59:40] <Guest_84757> weather is not doing Allah is doing
[17:59:51] <Guest_84757> humans are not doing Allah is doing
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[18:00:10] <Darken-> Guest_84757 i hope you crash :(
[18:00:15] <Guest_84757> animals are not doing Allah is doing
[18:00:25] <icfantv> Guest_84757: i'm asking you politely to please stop or we will need to remove you from the channel
[18:00:37] <Darken-> it's a rogue bot man
[18:00:40] <Darken-> not a person
[18:00:49] <Darken-> that thing needs banned from the network lol
[18:00:49] <Guest_84757> the best amongst you are those who learn and teach quran
[18:00:50] <icfantv> we'll boot him, one sec
[18:00:52] <ivegotasthma> Lecht: :O
[18:00:53] <m712> Voting leave
[18:00:54] <ivegotasthma> :O
[18:00:56] <ivegotasthma> :O
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[18:01:05] <m712> 51% keave
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[18:01:16] <Darken-> hehe
[18:01:24] <Darken-> if we could vote on people to leave that would be awesome
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[18:01:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Foxandxss
[18:01:34] <icfantv> nah, you just have to know the right people
[18:01:39] *** Foxandxss sets mode: +b *!779f3ee3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.119.159.62.227
[18:01:39] *** Guest_84757 was kicked by Foxandxss (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.)
[18:01:39] <icfantv> and here he comes
[18:01:41] <m712> I COULD WRITE A MODULE FOR MY BOT LIKE THAT
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[18:01:52] <Darken-> thank you whoever had the power to ban that bot
[18:01:52] <icfantv> Foxandxss: thank you sir
[18:02:00] <Darken-> m712 I'd cry
[18:02:06] <Darken-> please don't
[18:02:12] <m712> Darken-: #TextSiri
[18:02:14] <icfantv> Darken-: you just need to know the right people. Foxandxss is the right people
[18:02:18] <uru> Foxandxss: Thanks, but a better kick message would have been "kicking is not doing..." ;P
[18:02:37] <Foxandxss> automatic message
[18:02:41] <m712> A better one would be "User is banned from channel"
[18:02:56] <Darken-> I can't believe irc is still around
[18:02:56] <m712> simple and descriptive
[18:03:06] <m712> Darken-: it ain't going away either
[18:03:11] <ren0v0> Hi all, i've read and read about angular SEO and i still have no idea what is the best way to handle it. Google is currently not rendering my page properly, i've looked prerender.io but dislike the caching/backend checks that'll effect all users not just google's bots. What are my options?
[18:03:14] <m712> we just need nntpIRC
[18:03:18] <Darken-> I remember writing code for hybrid ircd 15 years ago
[18:03:25] <Darken-> and I'm happy to see it still surviving
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[18:03:57] <icfantv> ren0v0: are you just talking about SEO in that you want to be found by search engines?
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[18:04:21] <ren0v0> icfantv, probably should have said that, i mean for it to be rendered by google's bots
[18:04:27] <ivegotasthma> Lecht: TIL js can't do requests outside of it's origin.
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[18:05:09] <icfantv> ren0v0: so there's a difference between SEO and just a webcrawler finding stuff on your site
[18:05:18] <icfantv> subtle difference
[18:06:17] <ren0v0> icfantv, currently its rendering like this https://unsee.cc/zebanudi/
[18:06:21] <m712> ivegotasthma: you can always use a php proxy with curl
[18:06:42] <ivegotasthma> m712: how?
[18:06:43] <m712> that'll submit all post requests to the URL you desire
[18:06:55] <icfantv> ren0v0: rendering for you or for googlebot?
[18:07:01] <ren0v0> googlebot
[18:07:07] <oste> can anyone help with parallel states using v1 ui-router? https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router/issues/2837
[18:07:29] <icfantv> ren0v0: you can see how googlebot would see your page?
[18:07:38] <m712> ivegotasthma: read up on using php-curl, it's very easy. just pass all _POST variables to curl and do the request
[18:07:39] <ren0v0> icfantv, i thought i'd read that google has smartened up its bots for ajax etc recently, and that there may be no need for pre rendering static pages
[18:07:49] <ren0v0> icfantv, yes, using fetch as google..
[18:07:55] <icfantv> yes, but SEO and searches are for websites, not web applications
[18:08:04] <icfantv> angular is for web applications
[18:08:58] <ren0v0> icfantv, i think i'm missing your point. There are 100s of articles on this around the interwebs
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[18:09:14] <ren0v0> even whole services based on the topic > https://prerender.io/
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[18:10:08] <icfantv> ren0v0: let's step back. what's your site and what do you want to be searched?
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[18:11:51] <ren0v0> if you check google for the PM you'll see how its creating meta data for example
[18:12:05] <ren0v0> if google can't render it, no content will be indexed
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[18:32:51] <Pardhu> Hi Guys, Going to start with Angular JS. Please suggest some good framework to start.
[18:33:00] <Pardhu> As am new to Angular JS
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[18:33:28] <omenius> I would suggest Angular JS
[18:33:56] <Pardhu> :)
[18:34:23] <Pardhu> how abt Angular UI bootstrap Framework ?
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[18:34:56] <da_wunder> i would use angular material
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[18:36:59] <angrybacon> Pardhu angular-ui if dealing with IE, angular-material if not
[18:38:06] <Pardhu> Why angular -ui wont compatible with IE?
[18:38:12] <Pardhu> is der any specific reason
[18:38:18] <angrybacon> Pardhu Old IE I meant
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[18:38:54] <angrybacon> Pardhu angular-material uses flexbox IIRC
[18:39:01] <da_wunder> yep
[18:39:02] <Pardhu> oh..then Angular Material is compatible with All latest browser
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[18:39:14] <da_wunder> both of those are
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[18:40:00] <da_wunder> but if you're dealing with old IEs don't use angular-material, because it uses flexbox which is not supported with older browsers
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[18:41:07] <angrybacon> Still surprises me that I have to write JS to be run on IE7
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[18:41:18] <Pardhu> So please suggest me which one is better..As my Lead told we wll start with Angular1.x. But i told will start with Angular material. Suggest me which one is btr
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[18:41:38] <angrybacon> Pardhu Use both
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[18:41:51] <angrybacon> Angular1.x and angular-material
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[18:42:04] <da_wunder> angular-material is just a "plugin" to get some UI stuff
[18:42:12] <Pardhu> We can use both ? Sounds good
[18:42:21] <da_wunder> angular-material needs angular
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[18:42:42] <da_wunder> angular is the _main_ library, and angular-material is just a plugin for that
[18:43:23] <Pardhu> Got it... Thanks for your help guys...Bacon and Wunder ..
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[18:45:56] <angrybacon> Pardhu I would recommend opening a codepen and play with flexbox a bit beforehand though
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[18:46:21] <da_wunder> http://flexboxfroggy.com/ that is good for that
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[18:50:22] <Darken-> team outsourced to india strikes again
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[18:51:29] <ivegotasthma> m712: life saviour
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[18:56:08] <kakashiAL> I am using webpack and angular2, at the moment I am using this for my templates (HTML-LOADER)
[18:56:11] <kakashiAL> template: require('./foo.html')
[18:56:37] <Arf> I'm trying to import a library (Sortable.js) into an Angular 2 project. Can someone help me out with that? I'm not very clear about importing modules. http://plnkr.co/edit/z8VzCDYNrQR4KzpTVqI7?p=preview
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[18:57:16] <Darken-> angular2 uses 'components' :P
[18:57:24] <Arf> yep
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[18:57:57] <kakashiAL> is there are way in agnular2 and webpack to use templateUrl?
[18:58:07] <Darken-> yes, you can use templateUrl
[18:58:09] <Darken-> exactly like that
[18:58:47] <kakashiAL> Darken-: if I use templateUrl: 'foo/bar.html'
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[18:58:55] <kakashiAL> Darken-: it doesnt find the html file
[18:59:09] <Darken-> in your @Component constructor you can use templateUrl
[18:59:21] <Darken-> kakashiAL you might not be including the correct relative directory reference
[18:59:24] <kakashiAL> Darken-: even the angular2 docs recommend my way, if you work with webpack
[18:59:32] <Darken-> are you specifying a base URL?
[19:00:00] <kakashiAL> Darken-: I have two folders, one src and one dist folder
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[19:00:11] <kakashiAL> in my src folder that is the whole app
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[19:00:28] <Darken-> in your main html file, that loads angular/etc
[19:00:35] <kakashiAL> src/app/user/user.component.ts and user.componentn.html
[19:00:37] <Darken-> do you have a <base href="."> or similar?
[19:00:49] <kakashiAL> Darken-: no
[19:00:49] <Darken-> tell me, do you have a base href tag in your head for the main html
[19:00:53] <Darken-> ok, do that
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[19:01:10] <kakashiAL> hmm..okay, give me a second
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[19:01:37] <Darken-> i made an angular2 project a week ago and had to do that
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[19:02:17] <kakashiAL> Darken-: also using webpack?
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[19:03:31] <Darken-> I am not using webpack, but we are discussing angular loading a template via a url
[19:03:33] <Darken-> :P
[19:03:40] <Darken-> which should not matter webpack or not
[19:06:45] <kakashiAL> Darken-: it works even witout href="."
[19:07:02] <kakashiAL> but in that case I have to add this:
[19:07:05] <kakashiAL> templateUrl: 'src/app/app.component.html'
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[19:13:47] <Darken-> kakashiAL ok, well that is the relative reference where your html files are served from then
[19:14:20] <Darken-> you can have a directory structure for your angular app, that does not mean you have to contain your templates there as well
[19:14:34] <Darken-> you can though, just update relative links accordingly
[19:15:25] <kakashiAL> Darken-: as I know you can do it with moduleId somehow
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[19:16:25] <dfdsf> hello
[19:16:29] <dfdsf> I am angular js
[19:16:38] <Arf> any ideas? importing should be a pretty straightforward thing. i'm just new to it and not getting it to work. here's an example where they import sortablejs into a project. i suspect there is another file with some other information i don't know about https://github.com/RubaXa/Sortable/issues/713#issuecomment-175461372
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[19:20:57] <Arf> the Angular plunks demonstrate importing project files and Angular files, but not 3rd party ones like Sortable
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[19:25:03] <m712> ivegotasthma: glad i could help.
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[19:27:58] <kakashiAL> Darken-: it looks like webpack neglects "moduleId"
[19:28:24] <kakashiAL> why does webpack neglects moduleId: module.id? it is communJS
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[19:37:42] <NashDev> Angular2 superstars.. need help with a login guard issue.. I have an authguard for routes setup but it's not waiting on the asynch auth to happen, it reads initial value of isLoggedIn and then doesn't watch for change to that value... can someone help me? https://gist.github.com/sethdorris/e23dfc1bad8b2f860dc680a6b27fae17
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[19:57:50] <ivegotasthma> is it possible to clear the parameters from the url after a form submit?
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[19:58:15] <Darken-> with a redirection sure
[19:58:49] <Darken-> or do you mean angular parameters which are stored in the hash
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[19:59:01] <Darken-> those aren't real url parameters and can be changed whenever
[19:59:21] <ivegotasthma> the url parameters that are left there after a form has been submitted
[19:59:38] <ivegotasthma> I submit the form and nagivagate to another url, the params are still there
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[20:03:59] <ivegotasthma> Darken-: ?
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[20:06:04] <Darken-> how are you navigating to another url
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[20:08:42] <ivegotasthma> this.router.navigate(['url/url']);
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[20:10:05] <Bent0> I have a ng-repeat flight in flights. Then I have an input field with ng-model="flight.date". How can I access that flight.date inside my controller? $scope.flight.date does not exist.
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[20:35:13] <Nasp> kakashiAL You never subscribe to your observable?
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[20:41:02] <redblacktree> Is this an appropriate channel to ask questions about Angular 2? (If not, is there another you can recommend?)
[20:41:27] <mst> yes
[20:41:42] <mst> it's fasirly quiet though, so be aware it may be a little while before somebody'll reply
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[20:42:31] <redblacktree> Great! (Angular 2 with Typescript) I have a selector string, and I want to load a Component Type (for use with resolveComponent()). I can't find anything in the docs about how to start with a selector and get a Type
[20:42:36] <redblacktree> Thanks, mst
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[20:45:43] <mediachicken> any idea why as soon as I add routes to my angular app, i get an $injector:modulerr error?
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[20:45:59] <asku> Hi
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[20:46:19] <asku> Hello anybody there?
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[20:46:38] <ivegotasthma> how can I add the lodash library to my application?
[20:47:23] <ivegotasthma> I keep getting 'cannot find library "lodash"', it's in the typings, in packages.json, config'ed in the systemjs.config.js
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[20:52:47] <freeport> Anyone know why Angular 2 http services/observables make error's challenging to catch? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/dcba788baf7fda03c1cae026f0c5f83e
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[20:59:46] <dcherman> freeport: https://angular.io/docs/ts/latest/guide/server-communication.html#!#error-handling
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[21:03:24] <ivegotasthma> how do I install lodash?
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[21:04:39] <ivegotasthma> I can import it with import 'lodash' but not with import * as _ from 'lodash';
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[21:15:32] <vcv> Hi ,I need a framework to create a web supporting desktop, mobile and ipad
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[21:16:06] <vcv> is angular framwork good for web,ipad and mobile
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[21:17:21] <ivegotasthma> yes
[21:17:26] <ivegotasthma> especially angular2
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[21:18:45] <vcv> does it support in ipad and phone of all sizes?
[21:18:54] <ivegotasthma> it sure does
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[21:28:19] <cagomez> Why isn't my controller referencing API_Service? http://paste.ubuntu.com/18120129/
[21:28:48] <pLaToOn> moin
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[21:31:42] <zomg> cagomez: you forgot to include it in the injections array
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[21:34:17] <cagomez> zomg: I have included it, in quotes and wihtout, and I'm now getting: https://docs.angularjs.org/error/$injector/undef?p0=API_Service
[21:34:44] <zomg> it was missing at least in the paste you linked
[21:34:48] <zomg> what does it look like now?
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[21:35:25] <zomg> oh, that's a different error then :)
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[21:35:36] <zomg> look at the code example on that page it links
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[21:40:15] <thebishop> hi all, i'm trying to make a filter like "! filter:dontshow:true", except if dontshow is not a property of the object, I *want* it to show, however this causes an error because it's trying to get the value of a null value
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[21:40:44] <thebishop> can this be done in line, or should i make a function?
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[22:02:39] <cagomez> So Service vs Factory, a Service can returns a reference to a function whereas a Factory returns a result (eg the result of what a Service may produce... an int, a string, etc)
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[22:11:16] <Nasp> Wut
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[22:19:40] <icfantv> services and factories basically do the same thing…the only difference is how they're constructed
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[22:20:22] <icfantv> services are constructed via 'new' whereas factories have a function that is executed once and thus, must return an object that contains the methods/properties that are to be accessible
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[22:20:29] <icfantv> both are singletons
[22:20:36] <prometh> hi, how can i get access to $compile ?
[22:20:47] <icfantv> prometh: you inject it like any other service
[22:21:07] <prometh> $compileProvider is not necessary ?
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[22:21:23] <icfantv> $compileProvider is what gives you the $compile service
[22:21:38] <icfantv> providers are just a way of configuring something before angular boots
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[22:21:43] <prometh> ah
[22:21:45] <prometh> thank you
[22:22:22] <icfantv> rather…..as part of the boot process, but before most everything else
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[22:26:07] <prometh> now for a really basic question
[22:26:20] <prometh> i'm trying to create a web component (element directive)
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[22:26:40] <prometh> and it initiates but never renders the template
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[22:28:10] <prometh> http://pastebin.com/nGGMGuLZ
[22:28:22] <prometh> any idea what i'm missing?
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[22:30:53] <prometh> icfantv: still there?
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[22:34:01] <prometh> popp
[22:34:03] <prometh> poop
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[22:37:29] <prometh> even transclude doesn't fix it
[22:37:42] <prometh> i don't want replace, adn it's deprecated anyway
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[22:38:01] <prometh> is my quesetion that dumb that i'm being ignored?
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[22:43:45] <icfantv> prometh: yea, but i can't chat. in the middle of 3 different things: writing unit tests, on a phone call, and Slack-ing
[22:43:56] <prometh> ok
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[22:52:12] <prometh> it says that the server threw a 404 on the template, yet the error contains my template's html source
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[22:58:07] <prometh> does anyone else know how to use angular?
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[23:23:30] <prometh> template works but templateUrl does not
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[23:23:45] <prometh> it tells me that the path is a 404... yet it shows my template's source code in the error
[23:23:59] <prometh> http://pastebin.com/nGGMGuLZ
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[23:29:21] <kikero> Hello!
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[23:31:28] <prometh> useless channel
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[23:53:28] <bodqhrohro> ng2. I have a component specific css template compiled to string by angular2-template-loader:
[23:53:28] <bodqhrohro> ".ui.vertical.menu {\n\tmax-width: 100%;\n}\n\n.content {\n\ttext-overflow: ellipsis;\n\toverflow: hidden;\n\twhite-space: nowrap;\n}\n"
[23:53:28] <bodqhrohro> But these styles are not applied to tags inside the component tag. How the Shadow DOM emulation works and what am I doing wrong?
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