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[02:39:45] <shane_> Hey :) I'm trying to dump absolute URLs of all the states in an app running ui-router. Is there a way to, from a state, get an object of all of the parameters that state is expecting? Right now, it looks like my best bet is to parse them off the url for the state
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[02:40:38] <shane_> (I realize I can call $state.href to generate the URL once I actually have the params)
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[03:11:39] <diphtherial> hey, so is there a consensus about angular 2 vs 1? i realize that might be a contentious question
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[03:12:05] <diphtherial> i'm creating a little research tool, so it doesn't need to be extremely performant; the main concern is ease of development at the moment
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[04:16:15] <zomg> diphtherial: angular 2 is probably ok if you're the type of coder who can figure out problems yourself
[04:16:33] <zomg> since it's not been around for long, there's less docs, articles and people who know about it, so if you run into problems, you won't find help as easily
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[04:20:19] <diphtherial> is there any particular advantage to using it in terms of development speed?
[04:20:54] <diphtherial> e.g. are more addons targeting v2 or v1, and/or will they be moving to v2 shortly?
[04:21:21] <diphtherial> i've been burned by ember's breaking changes between versions in the past
[04:21:30] <diphtherial> (pun not initially intended)
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[05:20:05] <netameta> How do you go back a state - consider the state is being saved in history ( like clicking back)
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[05:22:34] <zomg> diphtherial: yes - you'd definitely have more addons / libraries for angular 1 than 2, same reason as for docs/support
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[06:57:26] <K> Hello Everyone
[06:57:39] <K> I'm here to ask a simple query please
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[06:58:15] <K> Should an ideal Angularjs application, supports page postbacks?
[06:58:48] <K> Should an ideal Angularjs application, supports page postbacks? #angularjs
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[07:00:44] <K> anyone?
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[07:05:01] <mms_> hi I see that route to tab does not work
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[08:08:13] <dharma_> Hi!, Increasing number of scope object in each controller will make browser down?
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[08:16:39] <ngWalrus> what
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[08:23:40] <Mask_> hello all
[08:23:51] <Mask_> what is the best developer tool of angular?
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[08:32:51] <Elarcis> ...Hi!
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[08:52:08] <cbzkit> I want to use inline svg from a trusted source. how can i overcome `Error: $sce:insecurl Processing of a Resource from Untrusted Source Blocked` ?
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[08:54:55] <atul> help
[08:55:11] <atul> I have module named myapp with few dependency
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[08:55:17] <ngWalrus> it's one of those days again
[08:55:36] <atul> no i want to add more depedency at runtime. HOw can I do that ?
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[08:55:51] <atul> I have module named myapp with few dependency. now i want to add more depedency at runtime. HOw can I do that ?
[08:56:44] <cbzkit> atul: AFTER creating your app module?
[08:56:50] <atul> yes
[08:57:17] <atul> on some condition later in my app. I want to do that.
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[08:57:28] <cbzkit> i've used ocLazyLoad
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[08:58:04] <atul> that one i am trying right now. Is there any built in solution for that in angularjs
[08:58:27] <cbzkit> No - pretty sure.
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[08:58:35] <ngWalrus> is this what you mean
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[08:59:26] <atul> thanks cbzkit
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[08:59:43] <cbzkit> atul: ngWalrus may have a good point.
[09:00:33] <atul> @ngWalrus i am checking your link
[09:02:01] <Elarcis> cbzkit: have you checked tghe doc for $sce?
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[09:04:02] <arlekin> hi guys
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<cbzkit> Elarcis: yes. i am attempting to use `$sceDelegateProvider.resourceUrlWhitelist['self', 'https://storageservice/**]` but I still get the same error.
[09:04:42] <cbzkit> sorry, that should be a function call. i did not copy/paste.
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[09:08:15] <Elarcis> cbzkit: I'm so tired I didn't even notice
[09:08:35] <cbzkit> heh
[09:09:01] <atul> :D
[09:09:57] <cbzkit> i have route fragments coming from objects in an ngRepeat, and i pass the full route to ngInclude. ngInclude does not like the source. :(
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[09:15:55] <Elarcis> cbzkit: you must trust the source
[09:16:08] <Elarcis> cbzkit: look up $sce.trustAsHtml
[09:16:46] <cbzkit> Elarcis: cool. i've used that before, but the docs made it look like i could whitelist an entire source.
[09:17:05] <Elarcis> cbzkit: I'm not sure it does the same
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[09:17:38] <cbzkit> i guess i'll make my template call a controller function that wraps the source as trusted.
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[09:19:30] <Elarcis> cbzkit: I like this one
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[09:19:50] <Bjorn> Good morning.
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[09:20:18] <Elarcis> Bjorn: Yes it is
[09:20:20] <Guest41413> Any tips on tracking where "Events" (EventEmitter<>) are being listened to within the Angular2/Typescript app?
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[09:20:36] <cbzkit> Elarcis: perfect! i was looking for something built-in. i'll steal this.
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<cbzkit> Elarcis: i think this is funny - i defined $scope.trustMe = function(resource) { return 'https://storageservice/' + resource; } and angular is happy now. still, the browser is complaining that my storageservice is not adding ACAO headers.
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[09:26:09] <Guest41413> Any tips on tracking where "Events" (EventEmitter<>) are being listened to within the Angular2/Typescript app?
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[09:27:45] <Elarcis> cbzkit: what the heck are ACAO headers
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[09:27:57] <Elarcis> ah, this
[09:28:03] <cbzkit> access control allow origin
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[09:28:43] <Elarcis> cbzkit: strange, these headers should be added server-side afaik
[09:29:06] <cbzkit> definitely. i just need to get that server to add them.
[09:29:24] <cbzkit> the weird part is that angular no longer has trust issues, and i did not use $sce.
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[09:29:30] <Elarcis> cbzkit: ha, storageService is server-side, I thought it was angular. again, I am very tired
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[09:31:43] <icebox> Pyrrhus: hey
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[09:31:59] <Pyrrhus> gooodmorning :)
[09:32:03] <icebox> Pyrrhus: resolved? because at last the plunker worked
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[09:32:46] <Pyrrhus> last I saw was the error : resolve is not defined (after the ngOnInit typos)
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[09:33:21] <icebox> Pyrrhus: that was fixed :) ^
[09:33:40] <Elarcis> hi icebox, hi Pyrrhus!
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[09:35:14] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
[09:35:23] <Pyrrhus> so I see, great :) now to see if I can figure out what was changed :)
[09:35:32] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: good morning
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[09:36:11] <Guest41413> Any ways I can trace where the EventEmitters are going to in Angular2?
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[09:36:49] <Guest41413> Or track where @Output() is going?
[09:37:03] <Pyrrhus> icebox: I guess the magic was in the service definition, with the changed `return new Promise()` ?
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[09:37:46] <icebox> Pyrrhus: yep
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[09:42:08] <Pyrrhus> icebox: strange, because that snippet was a straight copy from the he ToH tutorial... but I´m gonna see if I can get my vscode project to run with these modification... thx for the help :)
[09:42:41] <icebox> Pyrrhus: thanks to you.. I learned a lot of things :)
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[09:43:08] <Pyrrhus> yeah, I´m glad I´ve got a fully functioning TS plunk now, good for future questions ;)
[09:43:31] <icebox> Pyrrhus: agreed... indeed we should have an angular 2 template :)
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[09:58:32] <Elarcis> so hungry, but the vending machine is out of order
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[09:59:17] <ngWalrus> hurrah lunchtime
[09:59:24] <ngWalrus> but I don't feel like eating
[10:00:27] <Elarcis> I hate you already
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[10:00:32] <icebox> :P
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[10:06:04] <Jeroen2> I use this: <span ng-repeat="problemItem in problemsAtDay[$index] track by $itemIndex">, but that gives the error: Error: ngRepeat:dupes Duplicate Key in Repeater. Anyone knows how to get this working?
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[10:06:36] <icebox> Jeroen2: $itemIndx is not unique
[10:07:12] <Jeroen2> Yeah as it's in another repeat. :/
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[10:07:36] <Jeroen2> So you can't repeat in a repeat? :/
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[10:12:55] <Jeroen2> icebox: Do you know a solution how to fix that?
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[10:13:19] <Jeroen2> I've got an array with in it arrays. So I first want to repeat through the first, and then to the second what makes that you won't have unique ID's
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[10:15:07] <ngWalrus> posting a minimal plunkr with the problem would help in debugging
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[10:24:02] <Elarcis> CSS Frameworks are a plague
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[10:24:35] <Pyrrhus> I disagree. so there ;)
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[10:26:07] <Elarcis> especially grids. they're a politically correct way of using tables as layout, whereas 80% of the time I see one, there's a much cleaner (and responsive too) solution
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[10:26:29] <arlekin> Elarcis: agreed
[10:26:57] <Pyrrhus> no framework forces you to use their grid.
[10:26:58] <Elarcis> I just removed three levels of divs grid/row/column because the guy couldn't be bothered to use a simple position: absolute to align his icon to the right
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[10:27:35] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: no one forces you to have a bootstrap-themed site either, yet here we are :D
[10:27:53] <Pyrrhus> ah, so it´s not the framework that´s to blame. your guy hadn´t heard of ´pull-right´ ;)
[10:28:00] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: true :)
[10:28:09] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: Elarcis: you are both wrong
[10:28:17] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: I'm not using bootstrap
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[10:28:34] <arlekin> the css is just a sad fact of life that we have to deal with
[10:28:48] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: every framework has a pull-right (or similar), right ?
[10:28:56] <arlekin> and no amount of css-framework, opium-for-masses solution won't change that
[10:29:07] <arlekin> its like anti-aging cream
[10:29:08] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: I just think they're usually bad-practice enablers, because they don't push you to think of a good solution, they just go 'hey, we have a class that pushes your item to the right! sometimes. in good conditions.'
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[10:29:23] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: I just conform to the framework and have zero problems. you just accept that you can´t do certain things.
[10:29:24] <arlekin> 60% of the effect is that one feels better about oneself
[10:29:33] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: that´t true
[10:29:46] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: yup, its basically "pick your poison" kind of thing
[10:29:51] <Elarcis> "you just accept that you can´t do certain things." tell that to the client I'm dealing with XD
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[10:30:05] <arlekin> Elarcis: thats the art of customer service
[10:30:07] <ngWalrus> you can't really blame a framework for people misusing it
[10:30:08] <arlekin> basically
[10:30:18] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: yup. but if you conform, it´s bliss. come on, come to the dark side. we have cookies.
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[10:30:50] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: no, but I can blame a set of framework for encouraging CSS-bothering
[10:30:54] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: you have cookies, i want to have low body fat
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[10:31:32] <Pyrrhus> we also have low-fat low-carb tasteless cookies, especially for you ;)
[10:31:33] <Elarcis> arlekin: probably why I'm getting fat
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[10:31:59] <ngWalrus> Elarcis never heard of that term
[10:32:01] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: i don't _really_ care, i was making a point
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[10:32:12] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: I just made it up
[10:32:23] <ngWalrus> it would be useful if you defined it
[10:32:31] <ngWalrus> because I have no idea what you mean
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[10:33:11] <ngWalrus> also everyone should start using flexbox because it pretty much fixes everything ever with css
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[10:33:20] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: just putting CSS classes together without putting much thinking into it, having a bloated DOM just to comply with a generic framework, whereas you could solve your problem with 5-times less CSS rules.
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[10:33:46] <arlekin> Elarcis: true, that realisation made me ditch bootstrap
[10:33:47] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: pretty much like a time where 'doing JS' meant 'searching for snippets on the web and copy-pasting them on my site without any second thought'
[10:34:00] <ngWalrus> fair enough
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[10:34:16] <arlekin> once i realized that i can do css by hand and have less headache than trying to force bootstrap
[10:34:19] <ngWalrus> there are lighterweight options available
[10:34:35] <ngWalrus> and I haven't really run in to bloated dom with bootstrap
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[10:34:49] <arlekin> also i had an css epiphany once i realized the meaning of display: block and display:inline
[10:34:50] <ngWalrus> other than navbars
[10:34:52] <ngWalrus> fuck navbars
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[10:35:04] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: I may have mistaken 'botchering' for 'botching'
[10:35:06] <arlekin> the basic thing to understand if you want to set up any layout
[10:35:13] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: well it still works :D
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[10:36:20] <ngWalrus> also with angular I hide my stuff inside directives so I can just look at easily understandable bitesize chunks
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[10:36:33] <arlekin> ngWalrus: its sooo good ain't it ?
[10:36:38] <ngWalrus> it's very nice
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[10:36:44] <ngWalrus> but I wish it was a bit more performant
[10:37:05] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: brace yourself, web components are coming
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[10:37:24] <arlekin> ngWalrus: ng2 has some neat solutions for faster loads, server side rendering and so on
[10:37:30] <ngWalrus> yup
[10:37:37] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: great, then we´ll have (n+1) standards, all crap ;)
[10:37:40] <ngWalrus> I've read up on some of the stuff and it seems neat
[10:37:58] <ngWalrus> Also I'll be happy if I never have to use bootstrap again
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[10:38:54] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: well, i never heard anywhere to be only one standard as a result of not being any more than one
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[10:39:14] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: it usually evolutionary emerges the best one
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[10:39:42] <ngWalrus> icebox has had enough
[10:39:48] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: and for that it needs to have some things which existance purpose would be to go extinct
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[10:40:03] <Pyrrhus> yes, and in five years we´ll look back and agree that that standard was a bad idea. the more things evolve,, the more they stay the same.
[10:40:06] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: things like react :P
[10:40:10] <ngWalrus> why is my model not updating when my model updates >:(((
[10:40:24] <arlekin> ngWalrus: because your model updating is broken
[10:40:32] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: or ng1 ;) remember $scope hell ?
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[10:41:06] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: do i remember ?! i lived in in, i was mold in it, i didn't use controllerAs syntax till i was a grown man
[10:41:12] <arlekin> *mold by it
[10:41:19] <ngWalrus> the variable is updating just fine but it's not firing the watch even for some reason
[10:41:32] <arlekin> ngWalrus: "code or it didn't happen'
[10:41:44] <arlekin> ngWalrus: u using some funky ngModel magic ?
[10:41:48] <ngWalrus> nop
[10:41:58] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: I´ve done this for almost 20 years (15 years professionally), and I´ve seen the perfect solutions come and go. I just go with it. in a couple of years it´ll all be redundant ;)
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[10:42:34] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: im much less experienced, but for what i know, there are some technologies that we managed to kill after all
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[10:42:35] <icebox> resistance is futile :)
[10:42:36] <Pyrrhus> just as long as the current prefect solution lives at least as long as my project implementing it
[10:42:37] <arlekin> like perl
[10:42:46] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: I remember pretty well, I'm still dipped in it up to the knees
[10:42:52] <Pyrrhus> perl is far from dead ;)
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[10:43:25] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: yeah well... let me draw you a paralel - there are still hunter-gatherer communities in the world
[10:43:27] <Pyrrhus> icebox: yes, I´ve learned that the hard way ;)
[10:43:37] <pagios> hi all so i have an input type=":file" i want to catch the filename in angular ng-model does not return the filename how can i do that
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[10:44:05] <ngWalrus> lets all switch to COBOL
[10:44:25] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: it´s dead for the web, true. it was replaced by even worse thing though, like vbscript. which was replaced and so on...
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[10:44:47] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: let me rephrase, so i sound less ignorant, old technologies die hard obviously, but despite the fact that still writing in ASM is viable in some cases and industries, doesn't mean that your average codder can't know mainly python
[10:44:56] <pagios> icebox: purpose is not to upload a file to a server, i want to select a file and use that file as a background in a div
[10:45:11] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: true.
[10:45:32] <Pyrrhus> my point : replacing things rarely results in something better, just different.
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[10:45:41] <icebox> pagios: indeed I didn't say to use it... I said you may give a look at it just to see how it handles that case
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[10:45:56] <ngWalrus> also you don't actually have to upload the file
[10:45:58] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: so there is n+ standards, but the amount of relevant standards and technologies at any given point in time seems constant
[10:46:00] <pagios> icebox: ok, but how can i get the filename of a file input
[10:46:04] <ngWalrus> it does come with a pretty nice wrapper for the file api
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[10:46:25] <icebox> pagios: no idea... but you get a few hints if you give a look at that lib
[10:46:27] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: i read great article related to this a while back, lemme find it for you
[10:46:45] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: that sounds about right. and none of them is inherently better than its predecessors
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[10:47:36] <Pyrrhus> anybody remember delphi ? ;)
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[10:48:39] <Elarcis> ok, I hate the world now. replace: true is causing stupid class bugs.
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[10:58:34] <pagios> ($('#fileSelected').val()); returns c;\fakepath\... why
[10:58:34] <pagios> <pagios> i need to point to the correect directory
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[11:01:28] <mms_> route to tab any one got it working ?
[11:01:39] <arlekin> hi mms_
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[11:01:51] <arlekin> mms_: i thought a little a bout it
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[11:02:07] <arlekin> and the solution is simple, have service in which you will store current tab
[11:02:24] <arlekin> and have it checked on init of the controller of the page with tabs
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[11:02:34] <arlekin> also you need to set it on tab change
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[11:02:42] <mms_> AlexejK: hi
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[11:02:48] <arlekin> but otherwise you should be golden
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[11:03:11] <Elarcis> arlekin: not using uiRouter with a URL per tab?
[11:03:19] <arlekin> Elarcis: he is not
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[11:03:31] <arlekin> Elarcis: and routeparams is kinda PITA
[11:03:31] <Elarcis> arlekin: ok, then I second you
[11:03:39] <Pyrrhus> I do a resolve in the route (using ngRoute). works a charm.
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[11:03:47] * Elarcis googles PITa-nope okay, I got it
[11:03:54] <mms_> I have done some cleanup and now the update_backup.html loads content
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[11:04:11] <mms_> Pyrrhus: link shared please guide
[11:04:21] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: well then, maybe take a look, gotta warn you that its kinda big bplnkr compared to the issue
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[11:04:31] <arlekin> mms basically put chunk of the app there
[11:04:31] <mms_> I am lost because when I use route param its not working
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[11:04:55] <mms_> arlekin: its small now as I removed mostly unused controller
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[11:05:09] <arlekin> mms_: thats better then
[11:05:26] <mms_> just see how it works like load page, see tabs, choose backup list, choose edit, do back and you see broke
[11:05:32] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: I´ve seen his plunk...
[11:05:57] <mms_> I just do not get why it would not work
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[11:06:13] <mms_> guys some one needs to help understand
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[11:06:38] <mms_> no one gave me understandable reason
[11:07:02] <mms_> it like I have page and I load page with params and try to init the tab as per it and it does not work
[11:07:05] <mms_> why ?
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[11:08:45] <mms_> actually if all feel it should have worked then we should escalate it to some one and get answers
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[11:09:27] <Elarcis> mms_: I'm pretty sure it's not an angular bug ;)
[11:09:36] <Pyrrhus> mms_: what is your current problem ? I see the plunk at least sort of works now.
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[11:10:07] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: his problem is that he wants to be able to go back (either with custom button, or browser one) to the page
[11:10:20] <arlekin> on which he has tabs, and he want it to go back to specific page
[11:10:21] <mms_> Pyrrhus: do steps I said. basically cannot use that back button or any way to directly go to 2nd tab
[11:10:25] <arlekin> *specific tab
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[11:11:05] <arlekin> mms_: btw why you have such exotic design with "new" form as a tab and item list as a tab ?
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[11:11:56] <Elarcis> mms_: this'll allow you to dynamiclaly go to the previous state you were in, without having to manipulate window.
[11:12:01] <mms_> arlekin: well I just thought to group things some how but point is that we all felt the back button logic should work but does not
[11:12:23] <mms_> Elarcis: let me take look
[11:12:56] <arlekin> mms_: i keep telling you, it works exactly like it should and exactly as expected
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[11:13:21] <Elarcis> mms_: please note that you need ui-router-extras to use it
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[11:13:27] <arlekin> mms_: i thought i explained it yesterday, how it works, and why it doesn't do what you want
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[11:15:07] <arlekin> mms_: cause i had time yesterday, and basically i feel for you, especially since you seemed to fight with the problem for several days, but in other case you need to ask better questions
[11:15:18] <arlekin> actually...
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[11:16:35] <mms_> guys we are not focussing on problem i feel
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[11:17:04] <mms_> Elarcis: i will need some more baby steps to get to use based on your link
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[11:17:06] <arlekin> mms_: we are, are you willing to listen is another matter
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[11:18:08] <Elarcis> mms_ easy as pie. inject $previousState, in your back() function, $previousState.go(), done.
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[11:18:30] <arlekin> Elarcis: i feel, mms_ feels confused about whole "using another router" thing
[11:18:47] <Elarcis> arlekin: but he's already using it
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[11:18:57] <Elarcis> arlekin: it's in his plunkr
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[11:19:07] <mms_> ok let me try
[11:19:21] <arlekin> Elarcis: wait, what ??
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[11:19:47] <Elarcis> arlekin: OH NO MY BAD
[11:19:57] <arlekin> Elarcis: yup ;>
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[11:20:11] <Pyrrhus> he´s using ngRoute, isn´t he ?
[11:20:12] <Elarcis> mms_: what I gave you won't work, sadly, I didn't see you were using ngRouter and not uiRouter
[11:20:17] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: yep he is
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[11:21:12] <Pyrrhus> I still don´t see the use-case for tabs here anyway. it´s a crud interface.
[11:21:31] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: well i don't see it either
[11:21:52] <arlekin> but i make a point of trying to help with ones problem, not to criticize design
[11:22:06] <arlekin> especially since i ain't no designer
[11:22:13] <Elarcis> ^
[11:22:18] <Elarcis> ^
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[11:22:24] <Elarcis> v
[11:22:29] <arlekin> and while good design is always better
[11:22:37] <Elarcis> v
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[11:22:42] <arlekin> we all know that sometimes we have no choice
[11:22:44] <Elarcis> aw, damn
[11:23:01] <arlekin> Elarcis: i thought you are agreeing with me "up front" :P
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[11:23:56] <mms_> ok seems need to brain storm more
[11:24:00] <Elarcis> arlekin: I'm practicing my psychic abilities. as you can see, it's still highly hypothetical
[11:24:03] <mms_> I am new to angularjs
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[11:24:40] <arlekin> mms_: as Pyrrhus pointed out, you should ditch tabs altogether in that case, it would both circumvent your problem and made for better ux
[11:25:14] <arlekin> mms_: but if you dont want to, or have no choice, then the easiest way is using service, as i wrote just after you joined channel today
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[11:25:22] <Pyrrhus> mms_: normally, with a crud-interface like this, you have the list of items with edit/delete. on that same page (or route) you should have a ´new´ button to create a new instance.
[11:25:25] <arlekin> mms_: so maybe try that
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[11:25:53] <Pyrrhus> editting / creating shows the input in another view / route. disposing that view (by saving or cancelling) routes back to the list.
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[11:26:51] <Pyrrhus> all this could very well be contained in one tab, the other tabs routing to different functionalities.
[11:27:07] <Pyrrhus> but that´s step two (or three :))
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[11:27:22] <mms_> I am trying to learn and not design so I really have not need to submit this to any one so I would prefer to experiment a bit
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[11:27:34] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: alternatively he could have nav as tabs, and simply put <ng-view> in the content of tab
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[11:28:18] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: yeah, that was the last option i described, sort of
[11:28:18] <arlekin> mms_: well, webdev is pretty interdisciplinar, so while web deisgn is kinda its own field, its good to have some understanding
[11:28:19] <Elarcis> alternatively, he could farm potatoes in east Kazakstan
[11:28:27] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: oh, true
[11:28:43] <arlekin> Elarcis: feeling punny, are we ?
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[11:29:22] <Elarcis> arlekin: Always, when I need to hide the fact that I want to murder people
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[11:29:30] <Pyrrhus> where I work, the alternative is usually to do either gardening or washing windows :)
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[11:29:45] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: and where is it >/
[11:29:45] <mms_> migrating to ui routers is going to be lot of work ?
[11:29:47] <arlekin> ?
[11:30:00] <mms_> Pyrrhus: non idea where it comes from
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[11:30:19] <Pyrrhus> mms_: I wouldn´t do that until you have a better grasp of angular, but YMMV.
[11:30:21] <arlekin> Elarcis: its sad that in 21st century garbage collection works so badly
[11:30:33] <arlekin> Elarcis: world seems to be written in bad langage
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[11:30:47] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: YMMV ?
[11:30:55] <Pyrrhus> your mileage may vary
[11:31:01] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: lol
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[11:31:12] <Elarcis> arlekin: the world is written in a completely random language, that improved itself (again, randomly) over billions of years
[11:31:33] <arlekin> Elarcis: not quite, but i see what you mean
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[11:31:51] <Elarcis> arlekin: you're just the result of the worst developer ever, to whom we gave unlimited time to make things survive
[11:32:14] <arlekin> Elarcis: last time i checked it was called XP
[11:32:15] <arlekin> ;P
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[11:33:05] <Pyrrhus> so much for intelligent design then... ;)
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[11:33:32] <arlekin> come on guys, that was funny remark
[11:33:45] <arlekin> why aint no one laughin' :/
[11:33:50] <arlekin> irc is broken
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[11:34:08] <arlekin> (HN much)
[11:34:21] <Pyrrhus> language barriers combined with sense of humour incompatibilities ;)
[11:34:46] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: language barrier my ass, we all speak english here after all
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[11:35:33] <Pyrrhus> yes, but´s humor is difficult for non-native speakers sometimes. I guess most of us are non-native speakers (I am)
[11:35:43] <m0ltar> Hey, y'all! I have an ES6 service with a getter to get a list of objects. In the controller, I basically set it "this.objects = Service.list". But when I append new items to the list elsewhere, the data on screen is not update. Why is that?
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[11:36:08] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: well, me too, but there wasn't nothing tricky, i reffered to eXtreme Programming
[11:36:19] <m0ltar> I know ES6 gets converted to a function, so I'm guessing it is not being called, because no other changes on page happen, so angular has no need to start the digest.
[11:36:31] <m0ltar> So the question is then, how do I force it to start the digest?
[11:36:36] <Pyrrhus> arlekin: hmm, I thought windows XP. so hence the confusion ;)
[11:36:37] <senayar> because objects is not a list
[11:36:38] <senayar> :p
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[11:36:51] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: oh... didn't see that coming
[11:36:59] <arlekin> senayar: but list is kinda object
[11:37:37] <senayar> is it angular 1 or 2 m0ltar ?
[11:37:42] <m0ltar> senayar: 1
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[11:38:16] <m0ltar> My other option is to broadcast a rootScope event from the service and catch it in the controller.
[11:38:22] <senayar> how do you add another object to the list ?
[11:38:25] <senayar> of course not
[11:38:28] <senayar> don't do this
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[11:38:44] <m0ltar> senayar: let's say it's loaded async via an $interval
[11:39:01] <m0ltar> (in the service itself)
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[11:39:29] <m0ltar> it polls a remote API and if it finds a new item, it appends it to the list.
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[11:39:39] <senayar> did you console.log your new list into your service when object added ?
[11:39:42] <m0ltar> ES6 getter is basically this: get list() { return this._items }
[11:39:52] <senayar> lol
[11:39:54] <senayar> so...
[11:40:01] <senayar> Service.list() ?
[11:40:29] <m0ltar> in the controller constructor { this.list = Service.list }
[11:40:50] <senayar> you are binding the function not the return
[11:40:59] <senayar> or... I miss some info
[11:41:06] <m0ltar> But I understand that in ES5 it becomes: this.list = function() { Service.... }
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[11:41:13] <m0ltar> Yes, it's a function, technically.
[11:41:24] <senayar> plnkr
[11:41:29] <m0ltar> And I understand that it will not trigger a digest, because of that.
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[11:41:31] <m0ltar> Because ng cannot watch a function for changs
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[11:41:36] <Elarcis> arlekin: I also thought you meant Windows XP
[11:41:39] <m0ltar> But I'm wondering then how to do it better
[11:41:50] <senayar> do a plnkr
[11:41:52] <senayar> !help
[11:42:08] <senayar> !shared
[11:42:13] <senayar> !command
[11:42:13] <arlekin> Elarcis: dang it, and it was sooo funny,
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[11:42:29] <senayar> icebox:
[11:42:30] <arlekin> !commands
[11:42:42] <senayar> do you have the url for shared service I made ? :p
[11:42:42] <arlekin> senayar: yw
[11:42:47] <senayar> thanks you :)
[11:43:03] <senayar> !services-sharing
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[11:43:59] <Elarcis> ^
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[11:45:02] <arlekin> !tiarx
[11:45:02] <angularjs_bot> "There Is Always a Relevant XKCD"
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[11:45:25] <arlekin> :P
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[11:46:10] <Elarcis> not so relevant
[11:46:20] <arlekin> Elarcis: "relevantest" there was
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[11:46:41] <arlekin> Elarcis: besides, is it not ? senayar couldn't find a command, so he kinda "fought with bot"
[11:47:21] <ngWalrus> oh boy, refactoring code sure is fun
[11:47:45] <arlekin> ngWalrus: the amount of fun is proportional to advancement of your IDE
[11:48:00] <arlekin> ngWalrus: and language ofc
[11:48:18] <ngWalrus> angular + sublime
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[11:48:39] <arlekin> oh...
[11:48:57] <arlekin> c'est la vie...
[11:49:03] <ngWalrus> shouldn't be too hard
[11:49:06] <Elarcis> sublime, really?
[11:49:11] <ngWalrus> what's wrong with sublime?
[11:49:19] <Elarcis> arlekin: je vois la vie en roooose
[11:49:47] <arlekin> Elarcis: something "is life" something "rose" ??
[11:50:22] <arlekin> senayar: there is always a relevant commmitstrip ?
[11:50:26] <Pyrrhus> i see life through rose-tinted glasses ?
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[11:50:45] <ngWalrus> tutte la frut
[11:50:59] <Elarcis> TIARC
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[11:51:01] <senayar> bot pattern :P
[11:51:08] <arlekin> i feel like #angularjs is kinda french dominated
[11:51:10] <Jeroen2> icebox: fixed it :) lost internet connection sorry.
[11:51:17] <Elarcis> found the french
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[11:51:30] <senayar> where is the french ?
[11:51:32] <senayar> :P
[11:51:35] <arlekin> senayar: yup, send it to me in french, great idea
[11:51:50] <Elarcis> arlekin: found the polish
[11:51:53] <Jeroen2> Anyway, I got another problem. I got an error on "a loop" in my code. But I can't find where it's going stuck on. What's the best way to find the right part?
[11:51:56] <arlekin> senayar: luckily im keeping on top of my CS
[11:52:04] <Jeroen2> vendor.js:107 TypeError: Cannot read property 'timeslot' of undefined
[11:52:17] <Elarcis> Jeroen2: search for '.timeslot'
[11:52:24] <arlekin> Elarcis: since content is mostly CS related, i wouldn't stand any other lang than english
[11:52:30] <senayar> timeslot look undefined
[11:52:31] <senayar> :P
[11:52:39] <Jeroen2> Elarcis: Can it also be in the html? (so class="timeslot")?
[11:52:47] <senayar> hu
[11:52:47] <ngWalrus> but what's wrong with sublime ;-;
[11:52:48] <arlekin> Jeroen2: doubt it
[11:53:06] <Elarcis> Jeroen2: do you think HTML can throw you undefined errors?
[11:53:19] <ewet> hi, how long will 1.x still be devolped/supported, at which point will a change to 2.x be obligatory?
[11:53:28] <Elarcis> ewet: RIGHT NOW
[11:53:29] <arlekin> ngWalrus: i guess its because, all them rich kids in big companies go with webstorm or something
[11:53:34] <Jeroen2> no but my HTML calls methods in Angular
[11:53:36] <Jeroen2> Which can..
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[11:53:55] <Elarcis> arlekin: I'd like to try Webstorm, but right now VS Code isn't too bad either
[11:54:06] <arlekin> ewet: i do think you don't have to worry
[11:54:20] <ngWalrus> but I can do everything I want and probably a lot more too with sublime
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[11:54:41] <arlekin> Elarcis: well i used VSCode, but i got fed up with it (too used to sublime shortcuts and too lazy to change)
[11:54:50] <m0ltar> so it seems like the relevant bit here is the map function.
[11:55:01] <m0ltar> I'm guessing because it returns a new array which never changes :/
[11:55:04] <arlekin> Elarcis: but when i will move to use TypeScript im gonna switch to vscode i guess
[11:55:07] <m0ltar> makes sense now...
[11:55:15] <m0ltar> but how to solve that problem?
[11:55:25] <Elarcis> arlekin: they're also planning on implementing intellisense into angular2 templates
[11:55:33] <ewet> Elarcis: are you serious or are you just voicing your opinion?
[11:55:40] <Elarcis> arlekin: still a draft, but they got the POC working
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[11:55:49] <Elarcis> ewet: I am joking
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[11:56:03] <m0ltar> Actually, it doesn't make sense. Why would it not call the function and see if there is a new data coming out via map?
[11:56:11] <Elarcis> ewet: also, I'm always serious when voicing my opinion :D
[11:56:40] <ewet> Elarcis: ahh, I see ...
[11:56:53] <Jeroen2> Bleh got it
[11:57:05] <Elarcis> m0ltar: you just coded the same problem, differently
[11:57:30] <m0ltar> Elarcis: the same problem, as what?
[11:57:32] <ewet> arlekin: is there a roadmap or anything I can read/quote?
[11:58:02] <Elarcis> m0ltar: Items.list() is only ran once, at controller's initialization
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[11:58:09] <arlekin> ewet: how about you tell us why you asking and what you really want, that way we can be better help
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[11:58:26] <Elarcis> m0ltar: I suggest you re-read the plunkr on service sharing we sent you, you definitely missed the important part
[11:58:43] <m0ltar> Elarcis: oh, i didn't see that, as I was building my own plunkr :)
[11:58:50] <senayar> fixed
[11:59:08] <senayar> it's because list does not return items but a mapping function of items
[11:59:25] <Elarcis> senayar: it's not, he's asking for refresh
[11:59:31] <senayar> yes
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[11:59:56] <Elarcis> senayar: also, it's not returning a mapping function, but an array
[12:00:10] <senayar> ok I let you help him
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[12:00:34] <arlekin> since when '/' in javascript on two ints results in float ??
[12:01:05] <senayar> the binding is lot with the map function
[12:01:09] <senayar> *lost
[12:01:29] <senayar> because it create a new array
[12:01:38] <senayar> so ... the push work but the value is not updated
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[12:01:51] <ewet> arlekin: this is a simple question about the longevity of a future Angular 1.x project: How long will it take until 1.x will not be supported anymore. Or: is Angular 2.0 nowhere near and there's no issue? I know very little about Angular and the sources I searched are not very clear about it.
[12:02:07] <senayar> your does not work Elarcis
[12:02:08] <senayar> mine does
[12:02:24] <Elarcis> fdnk;lf
[12:02:35] <arlekin> ewet: well, depends who you ask, for all i know Angular 2 becomes viable and production ready
[12:02:58] <arlekin> ewet: but naturally ng1 is much more mature, and has wider ecosystem of libs and directives
[12:02:59] <m0ltar> Elarcis: ah, so wrap around in another function?
[12:03:19] <Elarcis> m0ltar: yes, so you always get the current reference to the list in the template
[12:03:29] <m0ltar> yeah totally makes sense now!
[12:03:35] <arlekin> ewet: so i'd say if you will work for long time on product and want it to be edgy, then go with ng2
[12:03:35] <Elarcis> m0ltar: alternatively, you can write this function in the service, and call it from the controller
[12:03:38] <m0ltar> Elarcis, senayar: Thank you for your assistance!
[12:03:49] <arlekin> ewet: but if you want to be safe it would be safer to go with ng1
[12:03:52] <m0ltar> so wrap internals of the list?
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[12:04:09] <arlekin> ewet: BUT, if i were you i'd got more opinions before making decision
[12:04:11] <m0ltar> get list() { return () => { map(..) } }?
[12:04:38] <senayar> do your math and return your result :p
[12:04:50] <Elarcis> m0ltar: see my updated version
[12:05:21] <Elarcis> gotta eat
[12:05:28] <Elarcis> AT LAST
[12:05:32] <m0ltar> Elarcis: have a good meal
[12:05:38] <m0ltar> and thanks for the help
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[12:06:37] <ewet> arlekin: thanks
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[12:17:04] <aravind_> JOIN
[12:17:41] <aravind_> can anyone please answer this question?
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[12:31:44] <Elarcis> senayar: no, because you overwrite items with its mapped double in the process each time you call list().
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[12:41:47] <Don> <tr ng-repeat="day in days track by $index"> <td> <input ng-disabled="true" class="form-control" ng-model="weekdays[$index]"></td><td ng-repeat="period in periods track by $index"><input type="text" ng-model="timetable.subject[[$parent.$index][$index]]" name="name" uib-typeahead="onesectionsubject as onesectionsubject.subjectMaster.subjectName+'/'+onesectionsubject.subjectTeacher.firstName
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[12:42:02] <arlekin> lol
[12:43:39] <icebox> sigh... pasted the code and quit
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[12:45:39] <danny_> hi
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[12:47:49] <FrogmanV> why sigh? icebox
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[12:48:10] <FrogmanV> or more specifically, what about it
[12:48:20] <ngWalrus> because posting code in irc is dumb
[12:48:27] <arlekin> icebox: didn't even left contact info :P
[12:48:30] <ngWalrus> also leaving straight away is??
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[12:48:44] <FrogmanV> lol .... couldnt figure out which aspect of the paste n go made you sigh
[12:48:48] <FrogmanV> i could figure a few
[12:48:52] <arlekin> all of them
[12:48:56] <ngWalrus> like most of them
[12:49:05] <ngWalrus> that code makes me sigh
[12:49:38] <FrogmanV> ++
[12:49:57] <arlekin> icebox: try !howtoask
[12:49:58] <FrogmanV> (my new shorthand convention for IRC likes)
[12:50:11] <arlekin> icebox: your welcome ;P
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[12:50:45] <ngWalrus> !xyproblem
[12:51:19] <arlekin> icebox: also i figured that if we would start having too much bot commands, we could organize them in directory like structure, which would also simplify naming problems - having convention
[12:51:23] <icebox> arlekin: nice command
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[12:51:36] <arlekin> icebox: frankly i had no idea how to name it
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[12:57:33] <FrogmanV> found your guy, guys
[12:57:37] <FrogmanV> lol
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[12:58:08] <arlekin> who even uses mailing lists anymore
[12:58:17] <Elarcis> oh my god, this is like a super-combo of pasting code, not asking any real question, and leaving right after that, I'm amazed
[12:58:22] <Elarcis> this was just art.
[12:58:47] <Elarcis> arlekin: apparently this one does
[12:58:59] <arlekin> FrogmanV: you do have way too much time on your hands mister
[12:59:14] <Jeroen2> How do I only get the day from new Date()?
[12:59:23] <FrogmanV> nah im actually going through all my TABS and closing them to clean up (im a tab-whore)
[12:59:29] <Jeroen2> .getDay returns 2 (day from week)
[12:59:40] <ngWalrus> tab whoring is great
[12:59:51] <FrogmanV> and i just happened to scan the mailing list one and WILDLY recognized the code
[13:00:14] <FrogmanV> people crack on my tab-whoring, but really i dont want to losing info
[13:00:21] <Jeroen2> thanks Elarcis
[13:00:22] <FrogmanV> i end up bookmarking everything
[13:00:34] <Elarcis> Jeroen2: you could have googled for it
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[13:00:43] <arlekin> FrogmanV: one word: getpocket
[13:00:43] <ngWalrus> w3schools is shitgarbage
[13:00:46] <icebox> Elarcis: the question is how to create an unique id to track by :)
[13:00:50] <arlekin> ngWalrus: it is
[13:00:54] <FrogmanV> arlekin :: googling
[13:01:01] <Jeroen2> I did :p
[13:01:08] <Jeroen2> icebox: I did fix that already
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[13:01:21] <icebox> Jeroen2: nice
[13:01:32] <ngWalrus> w3schools hider is the best addon
[13:01:48] <arlekin> ngWalrus: there is such thing ??
[13:01:59] <ngWalrus> yup
[13:02:07] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: dunno, just picked the first google result because I have time to laze on IRC but not to help people
[13:02:08] <ngWalrus> both for chrome and firefox
[13:02:39] <FrogmanV> ya might use this arlekin, seems like a quick way out of my large tab #s, effectively making me a buffer/queue to file/organize later (bookmarking)
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[13:02:53] <arlekin> ngWalrus: the reviews are so funny given the functionality of an addon
[13:03:07] <FrogmanV> actually read something about such a system for improving productivity, much like that
[13:03:28] <Elarcis> onetab?
[13:03:33] <arlekin> FrogmanV: its best for articles, since it auto strips all sidebars, ads etc, and have great mobile app
[13:03:50] <arlekin> Elarcis: just wrote that and was going hit enter... :P
[13:04:07] <Elarcis> I know, I'm psychic remember?
[13:04:12] <Elarcis> arlekin: also, bless you
[13:04:34] <arlekin> Elarcis: as i said, you certainly are different from the rest of the kids in class
[13:04:42] <arlekin> Elarcis: but don't worry
[13:04:51] <Elarcis> HEY
[13:04:56] <arlekin> Elarcis: they just don't understand you
[13:05:05] <arlekin> and why exactly bless me ?
[13:05:16] <icebox> ahahah
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[13:05:31] <arlekin> Elarcis: just kidding, you are perfectly, boringly average
[13:05:34] <arlekin> pick one
[13:05:40] <FrogmanV> utoh, onetab > getpocket ??
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[13:05:48] <Elarcis> Charizard
[13:05:51] <arlekin> FrogmanV: complementary imho\
[13:05:57] <arlekin> Elarcis: touche
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[13:07:17] <FrogmanV> i'm actually afraid to use onetab, seems overwhelming to just see my tabs disappear! I'll try it on a less risky trial/test, first.
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[13:07:27] <Elarcis> arlekin: honestly, my boss already told me that I'm strange, but not in a very good way
[13:07:30] <arlekin> FrogmanV: it has one-click restore
[13:07:45] <FrogmanV> i get that, i just am afraid to see it fail me
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[13:07:53] <arlekin> Elarcis: i do hope you know that im just teasing, we all here love you <# :*
[13:07:57] <FrogmanV> too much data right now to trust it for the first time
[13:08:05] <arlekin> FrogmanV: pussy
[13:08:08] <FrogmanV> ;)
[13:08:12] <FrogmanV> hahaha
[13:08:14] <arlekin> FrogmanV: ;>
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[13:08:37] <Elarcis> FrogmanV: found the Linux users
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[13:09:35] <ngWalrus> who doesn't use linux
[13:09:42] <Elarcis> ...me T_T
[13:09:52] <Elarcis> ...actually I use it, only for my server
[13:10:03] <ngWalrus> deving is so much better on linux
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[13:10:09] <ngWalrus> for one you have a better terminal
[13:10:16] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: ah, this I agree
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[13:10:45] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: I'd just love to have just terminator, or at least tmux, available on windows
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[13:10:52] <arlekin> ngWalrus: the terminal is basically the only reason i use linux
[13:11:00] <arlekin> i do am curious about mac
[13:11:15] <arlekin> since it has proprietary goodness with good terminal
[13:11:17] <icebox> Elarcis: we have... with Bash on Windows :)
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[13:11:24] <arlekin> good = normal
[13:11:28] <Elarcis> arlekin: If you want to try mac, just swallow a cyanure pill, it's less expensive for the same side effects
[13:11:42] <Elarcis> icebox: yeah, but I'm not using an insider build
[13:11:59] <Elarcis> icebox: (and the company laptop is on Windows 7)
[13:11:59] <ngWalrus> I still assert that bash on ubuntu on windows is the dumbest name ever
[13:12:00] <arlekin> icebox: i just read 'bash on ubuntu on windows' and im defeated, ain't clicking
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[13:12:08] <icebox> Elarcis: sigh
[13:12:09] <arlekin> ngWalrus: my man !
[13:12:18] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: agreed, but so cool
[13:12:25] <Elarcis> arlekin: Slow down!
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[13:12:52] <icebox> Elarcis: ok... workaround.. use conemu :)
[13:13:23] <Elarcis> icebox: I'm going to wait for Bash on Windows and the Windozs 10 upgrade
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[13:13:41] <arlekin> Elarcis: i ain't going nowhere ?
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[13:13:48] <Elarcis> icebox: also, I think I'll try a terminal dev env at home, with vim probably
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[13:13:58] <ngWalrus> also why zsh > bash
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[13:14:11] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: well YES BUT
[13:14:33] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: give a bit of time to people and I'm almost sure they'll find out how to make zsh run as well
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[13:15:48] <Pyrrhus> but why not ksh ?
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[13:16:37] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: better xiki :P
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[13:17:09] <ngWalrus> also ubuntu is ass, that's a thing too
[13:17:44] <Pyrrhus> that´s too modern for me I guess. (t)(c)sh, ksh, bash, zsh I know.
[13:18:17] <Pyrrhus> ubuntu is just a way of holding my terminals. it does that pretty well. as does debian or openbsd for that matter ;)
[13:18:29] <Elarcis> Omegash ftw
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[13:19:02] <ngWalrus> being a hipster neckbeard is hard :(
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[13:19:29] <Elarcis> ngWalrus: "lol the neckbeards are out"
[13:19:35] <Pyrrhus> ngWalrus: I´m too old for that, I´ve given up on the whole idea ;)
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[13:22:20] <Elarcis> Please, I'm too young, you are scaring me
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[13:24:32] <Pyrrhus> Elarcis: sorry. as a thrice decorated warveteran (editor, desktop and browser) I tend to forget that I scare people ;)
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[13:25:05] <icebox> consultant reply: thanks for the suggestion, I am open to any opportunity, I will choose in a few days :)
[13:25:41] <Pyrrhus> I bet he´ll choose what´s best for his wallet.
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[13:26:44] <ngWalrus> why didn't I choose a better css frame for my project aargh
[13:26:53] <ngWalrus> I could've gone with something cool and fancy
[13:26:58] <ngWalrus> but instead I went with bootstrap
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[13:30:58] <arlekin> ngWalrus: niener niener
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[13:34:40] <mms_> Elarcis: I checked ui-route and it also does not quite well fit into tab of bootstrap
[13:35:30] <Pyrrhus> I could´ve gone with something cool, but instead I went with ng... (struggling with every line of code I type)
[13:35:39] <mms_> Elarcis: it needs the tab to be partials instead of children in tabset
[13:36:11] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: troll ?
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[13:37:49] <Pyrrhus> no. the whole ng2 struggle is getting me down. it´ll pass I guess...
[13:38:21] <Pyrrhus> all them brackets and braces, man, it´s like perl magic.
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[13:39:27] <Pyrrhus> yeah, that about explains it :)
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[13:40:05] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: give it time, you will start to grok ng2 soon
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[13:40:19] <Pyrrhus> <I> [guess] (it) [(will)] {{pass}}
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[13:40:57] <Pyrrhus> on the plus : I like TS. unlike some :)
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[13:41:09] <arlekin> Pyrrhus: is it specified 'some' ?
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[13:42:07] <Pyrrhus> I´ve seen people both on and off this channel bash on TS relentlessly. but so far I like it.
[13:43:12] <arlekin> ,32mn b<472/4poki
[13:43:25] <arlekin> SORRY, CLEANING KEYBOARD
[13:43:30] <arlekin> **sorry for caps
[13:43:53] <arlekin> +
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[13:47:29] <Limarson> Hey guys, I have a conceptual problem with a component based application and I hope you can give me some insights: I have an application where you can configure lists that can be attached to fields that can be attached to panels. Now I need to provide some administrative gui where you could change the lists, fields,... . If a list item changes, it needs to change in the whole configuration tree. How would you arrange your components? W
[13:47:41] <Limarson> Wow that was long, sry ^^"
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[13:48:58] <ngWalrus> in a way that works :^)
[13:49:21] <arlekin> ^
[13:49:22] <Limarson> :o)
[13:49:46] <arlekin> Limarson: well, your question outlines it kind nicely, don't you think ?
[13:50:02] <Limarson> I think it should not only work but also be maintainable long-term
[13:50:17] <Limarson> arlekin: Does it?
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[13:50:41] <ngWalrus> break everything in to the absolute minimum size of piece possible
[13:50:42] <arlekin> well, there might by some catch in implementation details, but from what you wrote it looks alright
[13:50:44] <Limarson> arlekin: Maybe I'm blind because I'm thinking for quite some time now about it
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[13:51:12] <arlekin> Limarson: you have simple hierarchy with good definition of relations, im not sure what you want more
[13:51:22] <ngWalrus> a GUI mockup would also help visualize
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[13:51:35] <arlekin> Limarson: maybe i didn't understand
[13:51:41] <arlekin> what he said
[13:51:47] <Limarson> I think the main possibilities I have is to use a service and only provide "flat" hierarchies to the partials or to have one root component everyone is talking to when a change occurs
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[13:52:29] <ngWalrus> speaking in such abstract terms :(
[13:52:43] <arlekin> ngWalrus: come on, we are supposed to be smart guys here
[13:52:50] <ngWalrus> I'm trying
[13:52:54] <arlekin> rotfl
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[13:52:55] <ngWalrus> but I'm also trying to write a directive
[13:52:57] <Limarson> Yeah I will try to get some mockups or something to come up with :)
[13:53:05] <arlekin> Limarson: you do that
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[13:53:18] <ngWalrus> I should really write a snippet for these components
[13:53:20] <icebox> Limarson: you need to think about "has-a" and "is-a" relationship
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[13:53:46] <Limarson> icebox: I have has-a relations like all the time
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[13:54:25] <icebox> Limarson: ah well... so you resolved your conceptual concern
[13:54:46] <Limarson> icebox: But I don't know how to pass changes back to the parent, let's say I attach a list to 2 fields and I change the name of a list item - how can the "field" configurator be informed that the list it has has to be changed?
[13:55:23] <Limarson> I c, I'm too abstract - I need to get something visual to explain what I'm struggling with :)
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[13:55:37] <icebox> Limarson: no... it is clear... I have a link about it :)
[13:55:42] <Pyrrhus> Limarson: $broadcast / $emit ?
[13:55:50] <Limarson> icebox: I'd love to read that
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[13:56:20] <Limarson> Pyrrhus: Would be one option - at least the equivalent in angular2 ;)
[13:56:39] <Pyrrhus> ah, ok. I thought we were talking ng1 :)
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[13:57:04] <Limarson> Pyrrhus: Doesn't matter - angular2 components are pretty much like ng1 directives ;)
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[13:57:21] <Pyrrhus> if you have cross-relations like that (´pointers´ if you will) then an event-based thing sounds easiest.
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[13:58:13] <Limarson> icebox: That looks like what I'm thinking of, thank you very much :)
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[13:59:14] <icebox> Limarson: you are welcome
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[13:59:58] <arlekin> why there is no replace: true in angular 1.5 components
[13:59:59] <arlekin> ?
[14:00:14] <arlekin> i meant in theory it implicitly is, but not really
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[14:02:50] <icebox> arlekin: there is a long thread about it in the issues... tldr; it creates more problems that advantages
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[14:03:33] <arlekin> icebox: well, but why don't they expose it similar to the way it was with directives ?
[14:03:47] <arlekin> icebox: it is particulary sucky when used with ng-material
[14:04:20] <arlekin> since you either need to totally idiotically put flex directives again on your components declarations
[14:05:13] <arlekin> weechat sucks with multiline links
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[14:06:07] <arlekin> icebox: its frustrating, but then again reasonable code is probably less important than performance gains
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[14:06:32] <arlekin> i'll learn to love to hate it then, i guess
[14:08:40] <Elarcis> arlekin: replace is shit, I'm encountering a trucload of issues with these
[14:09:00] <arlekin> Elarcis: you mean conceptually or implementation-wise ?
[14:09:17] <Elarcis> bug-wise
[14:09:27] <arlekin> cause i ain't defending implementation, but concept is reasonable imho
[14:10:10] <Elarcis> also, in lots of place I can't remove them because Semantic-UI uses the '>' CSS selector everywhere
[14:11:10] <arlekin> Elarcis: "A bug is never just a mistake. It represents something bigger. An error of thinking. That makes you who you are."
[14:11:46] <Elarcis> "A bug pisses you off."
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[14:12:31] <Elarcis> also, these bugs were put there by a colleague who no longer works here
[14:12:35] <ngWalrus> kek
[14:12:38] <ngWalrus> those are the best
[14:12:53] <Elarcis> I'd like these bugs to be like this guy: to go away.
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[14:14:07] <Elarcis> he didn't like working for an IT consulting company and having constraints, decided to go for the startup-way for a friend
[14:14:14] <Elarcis> *with a friend
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[14:17:52] <Pyrrhus> transclusion right ? still having cold sweats when that gets mentioned.
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[14:19:37] <Elarcis> I don't want to work. anybody wants to distract me?
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[14:23:34] <someone235> hi, I know it's not directly related, but I'm pretty lost: $ionicScrollDelegate.scrollTop() doesn't work at all for me. someone knows what can I do about it?
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[14:25:06] <icebox> someone235: $timeout(function(){$ionicScrollDelegate.$getByHandle('productContent').scrollTop(false); },50)
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[14:25:28] <icebox> someone235: $timeout is relevant
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[14:26:13] <icebox> someone235: that issue happens when you navigate between views
[14:26:16] <someone235> icebox, it doesn't fix ita
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[14:26:48] <someone235> icebox, the $timeout isn't relevant only when you scroll on loading view?
[14:27:13] <someone235> icebox, I call the scroll from ng-click
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[14:29:07] <Elarcis> I go on Google. Today's doodle is Karl Landsteiner, discoverer of the first blood types. On his wikipedia page is stated that, June the 14th is International Blood Donation Day. I think to myself "Oh, funny, it's today!"
[14:29:12] <Elarcis> I might be a bit stupid at times
[14:29:30] <icebox> Elarcis: ahahahah :)
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[14:30:21] <someone235> icebox, yes
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[14:30:58] <someone235> Elarcis, lol
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[14:31:31] <ngWalrus> Google doodles are the best
[14:31:57] <icebox> someone235: well... of course there is something different in your use case... because that works
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[14:34:33] <icebox> someone235: also with animations and modals it has a few issues
[14:35:32] <someone235> icebox, it doesn't work with 'true' either
[14:35:38] <mralex> if I smash together an plunker is anyone up for helping me?
[14:36:10] <icebox> mralex: is it the opposite true? :)
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[14:36:40] <Elarcis> ...back.
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[14:37:03] <mralex> heh
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[14:37:39] <icebox> mralex: what is the topic of the question?
[14:37:55] <Elarcis> ...BACK.
[14:38:04] <icebox> Elarcis: noticed :)
[14:38:04] <mralex> $scopes and services
[14:38:10] <icebox> mralex: ah nice :)
[14:38:23] <icebox> mralex: and what is your concern?
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[14:38:46] <someone235> icebox, it looks like the github issue you were linking is about scrolling on load, and not on ngClick
[14:39:28] <mralex> I am trying to update the value of an input box based on the value of an object property that resides within an ng-repeat with the ng-repeat each having a controller.
[14:39:39] <mralex> I'll plunk it and bang you over a link.
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[14:40:15] <icebox> mralex: very minimal plunker, please
[14:40:28] <mralex> Yeh I am just making it the essentials
[14:40:50] <icebox> someone235: the point is there are a few open issues
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[14:41:52] <someone235> icebox, yes, but in the case you linked, it looks like $timeout will help. not in my case thought...
[14:42:00] <icebox> someone235: I see
[14:42:49] <someone235> icebox, do you know if there's an alternate way to scroll to top of ion-content?
[14:43:44] <icebox> someone235: did you try the native approach?
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[14:44:11] <icebox> someone235: (are you inside a iframe??
[14:44:54] <someone235> icebox, I'm not inside an iframe.
[14:45:13] <someone235> icebox, do you mean to use JS built in .scrollTop?
[14:45:21] <icebox> someone235: yes
[14:45:32] <icebox> someone235: (are you in a web view?)
[14:46:12] <someone235> icebox, I don't think it'll fit well, because ionic scroll ion-content with css transform
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[14:46:25] <someone235> icebox, I'm just using web browser
[14:46:45] <icebox> someone235: ios or android?
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[14:47:34] <someone235> icebox, desktop chrome with emulator, but it should work too, no?
[14:47:48] <someone235> icebox, my app should be for desktop too
[14:48:12] <icebox> someone235: not sure about that
[14:48:26] <icebox> someone235: try it with a device
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[14:48:30] <someone235> icebox, ok sec
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[14:52:04] <someone235> icebox, it doesn't work on android chrome either
[14:52:27] <icebox> someone235: nice
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[14:53:14] <Pyrrhus> trying to recursively add items to my tree with a click. it sort of works, but the <my-item> children created do not trigger anything (like the constructor)
[14:53:32] <Pyrrhus> any ideas where to look ?
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[14:54:58] <Pyrrhus> (it´s a ridiculously naive implementation of a tree struct, but i´m just trying different aspects of ng2)
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[14:56:27] <someone235> icebox, how is this nice? :D
[14:56:51] <icebox> someone235: it was ironic
[14:57:24] <TyrfingMjolnir> irony seldom travels well through strings
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[14:58:42] <icebox> someone235: <ion-content on-scroll-complete="onComplete()"> and put a console.log in that method
[14:59:21] <Elarcis> TyrfingMjolnir: there are no strings, the Internet is wireless
[14:59:33] <icebox> someone235: then click again to scrollTop
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[15:00:59] <d> hi
[15:01:02] <TyrfingMjolnir> Elarcis - The World Play MasterTM
[15:01:11] <d> ok
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[15:01:30] <Elarcis> Hi Guest55945!
[15:01:37] <Guest55945> hi
[15:01:48] <icebox> Pyrrhus: are you sure you are filling the correct "children"?
[15:01:50] <Guest55945> i want to learn angular js and js
[15:01:54] <Guest55945> how should i
[15:01:54] <Guest55945> ?
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[15:02:26] <Raj_> I am new in angular js
[15:02:33] <Elarcis> Guest55945: I is recommended to learn JS before AngularJS
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[15:02:44] <Guest55945> yes,JS how should i
[15:02:45] <Elarcis> Guest55945: as angularJS requires a bit of knowledge to start with
[15:02:57] <arlekin> icebox: nice resource with js books, thanks :)
[15:03:03] <Elarcis> Guest55945: I don't know. Codecademy? Online tutorials?
[15:03:08] <arlekin> icebox: btw, didn't know tj ALSO writes
[15:03:17] <Pyrrhus> icebox: i was missing a ´directives: [ AppComponent ]´. it seems to work now, although on my desktop it goes into an endless loop :)
[15:03:21] <icebox> arlekin: tj doesn't exist :)
[15:03:35] <icebox> Pyrrhus: ah ok
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[15:03:50] <Nasp> Guest55945: how much experience do you have other other programming languages
[15:03:55] <Pyrrhus> icebox: it works flawlessly in plunkr though :) I´m surprised :)
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[15:04:09] <Guest55945> in html,css and some javascript
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[15:04:19] <Guest55945> nasp
[15:04:30] <arlekin> icebox: sure, sorry
[15:04:45] <icebox> arlekin: :P
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[15:05:16] <Guest55945> <nasp>
[15:05:30] <Nasp> Ok so some basic js then
[15:05:41] <Nasp> No other languages for programming?
[15:06:08] <Guest55945> core java and c language
[15:06:14] <Guest55945> you are from?
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[15:07:01] <Guest55945> <nasp>:?
[15:07:14] <Nasp> DK
[15:07:19] <Nasp> So you know other programming languages
[15:07:24] <Guest55945> yes
[15:07:28] <Nasp> Then you might be better of trying to start with Angular 2
[15:07:34] <Nasp> I find it better and a bit more structured
[15:07:51] <Guest55945> what about angular 1?,here we use it
[15:08:07] <Elarcis> Guest55945, Nasp also, since it's Typescript and you're already familiar with Java...
[15:08:32] <Elarcis> Guest55945: Ah Angular 1 is great too, a bit more tricky, but definitely a good choice
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[15:08:48] <Guest55945> ok
[15:08:48] <Elarcis> Guest55945: If that's a company requirement, definitely Angular1 is 'learnable' :D
[15:08:56] <Guest55945> hehe
[15:08:57] <Nasp> Guest55945: Angular 1 is harder to learn
[15:09:13] <mralex> (I would like to keep the architecture of the controllers - there is other stuff going on in my application)
[15:09:16] <Guest55945> i need to learn js and angular 2 fast,tell me some rsources
[15:09:29] <Elarcis> Nasp, Guest55945: let's just say, it has a steep learning curve, and it's easy to fall into some traps
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[15:10:12] <Nasp> Yes let's say that
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[15:11:06] <Guest55945> ok
[15:11:50] <Elarcis> Guest55945: as to learning JS, I have no idea, I learnt it by reading it
[15:12:06] <Guest55945> reading what?
[15:12:34] <Elarcis> Guest55945: JS code
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[15:12:52] <Guest55945> cool
[15:12:58] <WhatTheDilly> lol
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[15:13:09] <WhatTheDilly> always funny when people come to me to ask about how to learn
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[15:13:21] <WhatTheDilly> they're always like what people do you follow? what books did you read? what courses did you take.
[15:13:31] <WhatTheDilly> and i'm like none. none.. none.. :-/
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[15:13:51] <Guest55945> so wtf dilly
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[15:15:40] <WhatTheDilly> infrrf
[15:15:42] <WhatTheDilly> indeed
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[15:16:40] <arlekin> WhatTheDilly: i object inherent relation between following ppl and education
[15:16:55] <uru> Hey all, in ng2 is there a "nice" way to use existing DOM as a template? At the moment I'm using something like `template: document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0].innerHTML,` but am not sure if that's going to have any negative effect on performance.
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[15:18:55] <arlekin> gotta go guys, cya
[15:18:57] <icebox> mralex: well... that input doesn't bind any object in the scope... no ng-model?
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[15:19:09] <mralex> updated icebox :)
[15:19:12] <icebox> ah ok :)
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[15:20:10] <icebox> mralex: use services to share data between controllers
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[15:20:34] <icebox> mralex: !services-sharing
[15:20:52] <ngWalrus> !commands
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[15:23:48] <arcjon> hi angularjs coders
[15:24:20] <mralex> thanks icebox :D
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[15:24:45] <icebox> mralex: you are welcome
[15:25:34] <Elarcis> arcjon: hi!
[15:25:46] <arcjon> hi Elarcis
[15:25:51] <Elarcis> hi arcjon!
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[15:26:37] <arcjon> noob on this group as well as the language. Im looking forward.
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[15:38:23] <mralex> I can't quite work out how to implement that with my code. I have a factory and it works great for what I need it for, just dont understand how I can share scope.
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[15:42:05] <icebox> mralex: that is an important knowledge... take your time and experiment it
[15:42:28] <Elarcis> arcjon: Welcome to the clinic!
[15:42:30] <mralex> ok
[15:42:32] <mralex> will do.
[15:42:57] <arcjon> thanks Elacris
[15:43:07] <icebox> mralex: however we are here... just in case :P
[15:43:34] <Elarcis> icebox: can I PM you for an off-topic question please? :3
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[15:46:33] <icebox> Elarcis: sure
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[15:47:16] <startupality> how can i find marker by its ID with angular google maps?
[15:47:47] <BahamutWC> heh a user called icebox
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[15:49:27] <icebox> mralex: a note... when you update data in the service, you need to be aware about the reference... data.part = part; // breaking the reference, because "part" is a different object... the controller has the reference of another object, that returned by getPart, data.part
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[15:50:33] <mralex> ok thanks
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[15:53:39] <icebox> mralex: to mitigate that issue see angular.extend and angualr.merge
[15:53:45] <arcjon> guys i have an off topic question, regarding an initiative here in my country regarding angularjs. Anyone could help us would be appreciated.
[15:53:50] <arcjon> let me know
[15:54:10] <mralex> ok thanks :) I'll try and nail this scope sharing issue first .Word dude. tahnks
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[15:57:33] <Elarcis> sun is crawling on the desktop. my right arm is frying right now
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[15:57:56] <startupality> anyone here knows how to use angular google maps marker control?
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[15:59:19] <Elarcis> startupality: I had no idea angular google maps was a thing, sorry
[16:00:24] <icebox> arcjon: don't ask to ask
[16:00:25] <startupality> @Elarcis its an angular directive
[16:00:36] <startupality> i just want to access a specific marker
[16:00:46] <startupality> and change its icon
[16:00:56] <Elarcis> arcjon: don't ask to ask, what is your question ? :)
[16:01:01] <Pyrrhus> I´ve bound the id attribute to a model var. on load, it doesn´t see the value (see console.og in ngOnInit)
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[16:01:30] <Pyrrhus> also, on click, it _does_ see the ids (2 and 3), but 2===2 is false ?
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[16:02:56] <icebox> Pyrrhus: well... undefined === 2 // false, it seems correct :)
[16:03:09] <Pyrrhus> strangely enough, in vscode it does see the id as 1 on load, but then 1===1 is false.
[16:03:13] <arcjon> we just started a community. which some have experience with the language. However the community is young. I might be rude asking this, but anyone of you here can contribute to the community regarding developments, tutorials or anything. this is not regular stuff but were looking for mentors or speakers
[16:03:31] <Pyrrhus> icebox: the logged id is 2, isn´t it ?
[16:03:36] <Pyrrhus> (onclick that is)
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[16:03:58] <icebox> Pyrrhus: ah ok... clicking :)
[16:03:59] <Pyrrhus> it logs ´Init 2 false´ for me
[16:04:01] <arcjon> so as not to look like a troll on this channel, pls feel free to message me
[16:05:25] <icebox> arcjon: where?
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[16:06:14] <arcjon> just online, e.g skype or videochat or if you can spare us time for a talk regarding a specific topics or tutorials, were from PH
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[16:06:48] <icebox> Pyrrhus: correct false
[16:07:06] <icebox> Pyrrhus: "2" === 2 // false
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[16:07:26] <Pyrrhus> but I define id as being a number in the binding ?
[16:07:48] <icebox> Pyrrhus: complain with Typescript :)
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[16:08:43] <Pyrrhus> I would, if I understood the problem :) it doesn´t seem to be number vs. string. is it number vs. int ?
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[16:09:40] <Pyrrhus> and the question remains why the initial binding (id=1) isn´t seen at all...
[16:09:43] <icebox> Pyrrhus: I am sure... console.log(typeof this.id); // string
[16:09:58] <Pyrrhus> strangely, it is seen locally in vscode...
[16:10:04] <Pyrrhus> oh wow. that sucks.
[16:10:23] * Pyrrhus throws hands up in despair.
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[16:10:41] <icebox> Pyrrhus: I suppose there is a reason
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[16:11:22] <Pyrrhus> I wonder what it could be, other than how to annoy devs the most :)
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[16:15:11] <icebox> arcjon: why do you think the online resource about angular are not enough?
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[16:16:31] <arcjon> icebox its actually very good, the community holds a few seminars too. were looking forward for other mentors that can boost this topics and devs
[16:16:49] <arcjon> we also appreciate if someone can share "good practices"
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[16:17:25] <icebox> arcjon: there are many videos... you may choice one per meeting and using it as the main topic of the meeting... or a blog post... Minko Gechev or Victor Savkin blogs are great
[16:17:27] <arcjon> our goal is to spread the language more and have the community engage in a more diversify culture of coding
[16:17:43] <arcjon> icebox thanks for that
[16:17:45] <icebox> arcjon: I see
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[16:18:54] <Elarcis> arcjon: that's ambitious
[16:19:01] <Pyrrhus> ok. solved with an extra parseInt. fugly. but it´s still not seeing the initial binding :(
[16:19:02] <arcjon> were planning to engage more contributors of different origin to encourage the community
[16:19:12] <arcjon> Elacris yes
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[16:19:27] <arcjon> we have done a couple of seminars too
[16:19:36] <icebox> Pyrrhus: well... that is cheating :)
[16:19:56] <arcjon> Elacris thanks a lot
[16:20:07] <Pyrrhus> icebox: yeah, well, when life gives you strings for ints, you tend to cheat :)
[16:20:15] <arcjon> i appreciate icebox and elacris for your thoughts
[16:20:35] <icebox> arcjon: you are welcome
[16:20:35] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: $parse is so magical
[16:20:36] <Pyrrhus> it kind of fits though : data coming in via attributes is stringy
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[16:20:42] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: also a performance hog
[16:20:48] <arcjon> just anyone have a spare time or wants to, pls feel free to message me
[16:20:57] <Pyrrhus> is $parse an ng2 thing ?
[16:21:10] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus: I don't think so, or at least it has a different name
[16:21:13] <icebox> Pyrrhus: I don't think so
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[16:22:22] <Pyrrhus> I wanted to use strong typing to get rid of all this crap...
[16:22:28] <Pyrrhus> oh well.
[16:23:33] <icebox> Pyrrhus: I think the main point is understanding the type inference works at build time, not runtime
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[16:24:26] <Pyrrhus> icebox: I know, but sometimes forget :) in that light, data coming from an attribute is stringy at least :)
[16:24:29] <NashDev> Hola.
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[16:24:52] <icebox> Pyrrhus: yep
[16:24:54] <Elarcis> icebox: elarcis.getLastMessage().substr(0,25);
[16:25:28] <icebox> Elarcis: :P
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[16:36:41] <icebox> Elarcis: a note about Vim... git bash is not directly related to Vim installation... indeed I have been using gvim... but git bash is a useful shell :)
[16:37:10] <Elarcis> icebox: yep, I already had git bash installed :3
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[16:37:22] <icebox> Elarcis: cool!
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[16:43:34] <NashDev> Hello all.. I have a friend and I who have done the Angular2 heros tutorial online.. we have the same folder structure same files everything, yet he gets a 404 Error on Index with his system.import('app') line and it reads XHR error /Traceur
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[16:43:45] <NashDev> Has anyone encountered any /Traceur issues ?
[16:45:10] <arcjon> icebox thank you for sharing
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[16:46:36] <icebox> NashDev: resolved?
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[16:48:16] <icebox> mralex: eheheh :)
[16:48:31] <mralex> Heh - I am trying man :)
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[16:48:47] <icebox> mralex: references, cloning objects are the keywords :)
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[16:49:08] <icebox> mralex: I have a few minutes before leaving... trying to fix it
[16:49:10] <mralex> ok icebox - you warned me but I didn't listen. I'll have a look at all that regfenc e stuff
[16:49:20] <mralex> "reference"
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[16:56:23] <mralex> Absolute legend, icebox.
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[16:56:30] <icebox> mralex: I show the part in a paragraph below the input field... up to you as exercise how to update the input value :)
[16:56:37] <mralex> I'll have a look at how you did it.
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[16:56:43] <mralex> Thanks for the help and advice.
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[16:57:14] <mralex> I was putting my extend in somewhere completely different
[16:57:18] <icebox> mralex: you need the hard job... you are welcome
[16:57:28] <icebox> mralex: * you did the hard job
[16:57:36] <NashDev> icebox no it's not resolved, it's the weirdest thing..
[16:57:36] <mralex> Hheheh. thanks :D
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[16:58:16] <icebox> off... bye
[16:58:20] <Elarcis> me too, bye!
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[16:59:09] <mralex> nice one icebox. stay cool. peace out.
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[17:02:06] <sonda> how does $watch work?
[17:03:11] <sonda> $scope.$watch(function () { return $rootScope.metrics; }, function () { dosomething() }
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[17:03:43] <sonda> here dosomething should be called whenever metrics changes right?
[17:04:01] <sonda> but it gets called even before metrics is modified
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[17:09:54] <sonda> function () { return $rootScope.metrics; } is it not just watching $rootScope.metrics?
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[17:11:49] <sonda> should i write $rootScope.$watch('metrics' , function (newval, oldval) {} ) that way?
[17:12:50] <marc_v92> Change $rootScope to $scope and you should be good.
[17:13:00] <marc_v92> Wait, sorry, misread.
[17:13:09] <marc_v92> Yes, what you have in that last message looks right.
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[17:13:51] <sonda> ok let me check.. thanks marc_v92
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[17:33:39] <sonda> that seems to be working marc_v92 :)
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[17:34:10] <sonda> hey marc_v92 , how long you are working on angular JS?
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[17:37:29] <sonda> anybody who has implemented session timeout in node.js and angular JS?
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[17:41:33] <sonda> i kind of googled and found the code using $http interceptors... which check for 401 response and when i get a 401 response, i display login page.. but though i display login page, many requests are fired behind the wall.. how would i know the last request after re-login shown
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[17:43:07] <sonda> i want to delete the session data for that user at that time
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[17:44:44] <Nasp> Does the language for session timeout matter?
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[17:48:26] <sonda> i didn't get you Nasp
[17:48:45] <Nasp> You asked if anyone have implemented session timeout in nodejs and angular
[17:48:49] <Nasp> Does it matter what language it is?
[17:48:57] <sonda> yes
[17:49:19] <sonda> i am using node.js as backend and angular js as front end
[17:49:37] <sonda> oh that way, in general you can tell me how its implemented
[17:50:15] <Nasp> Yes exactly
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[17:50:38] <Nasp> Well first of all what part of the timeout do you have questions about
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[17:51:47] <sonda> i am managing timeout only on server side... do i have to do it on client side also?
[17:52:00] <Nasp> Depends
[17:52:07] <sonda> in the sessions data for the user i am keeping timestamp.
[17:52:14] <Nasp> You should atleast handle http unauhtorized
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[17:52:36] <Nasp> But you should also on page switch check if the session has expired
[17:52:43] <Nasp> Is this normal sessions or jwt or the like?
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[17:53:03] <oste> stateChangeStart/stateChangeSuccess are no longer firing for me…
[17:53:07] <oste> did they get replaced
[17:53:30] <sonda> normal session
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[17:54:22] <sonda> can i somehow block all the subsequent requests made
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[17:55:28] <oste> All state events, (i.e. $stateChange* and friends) are deprecated and disabled by default
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[17:56:34] <Nasp> sondo just redirect to login
[17:56:56] <Nasp> Also if you want it to happen on page switch you might need to save the expire time client side
[17:56:58] <Nasp> Else i won't know
[17:57:04] <Nasp> Before it makes a request
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[17:57:33] <sonda> oste: my problem is though i have put a check on unauthorized, and displayed login page... the requests that got created by user clicking on certain links still get fired and they mess up server side
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[17:58:47] <sonda> oh you mean to say client should always check before issuing requests whether session expired
[17:59:25] <sonda> what i am doing is for the first request made returning 401
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[17:59:54] <sonda> but subsequent still get fired
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[18:00:34] <sonda> may be i have some how handle on server side
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[18:01:30] <Nasp> You can't abort the requests
[18:01:33] <Nasp> And why do they mess up serverside?
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[18:02:55] <sonda> Nasp: just an idea.. can i intercept request and if some variable is true don't issue request
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[18:03:33] <Nasp> On the server or angular?
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[18:04:43] <sonda> angular
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[18:05:30] <Nasp> Sure but doubt it will work
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[18:05:35] <Nasp> Angular 2 can abort http calls
[18:05:39] <Nasp> But again what issues did they make?
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[18:08:13] <sonda> may be my logic on server side is wrong... but here is whats happenning... if i delete the sessions[token] after expiry.. the next request with that token when comes on server side, thinks that it is login request and asking for token
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[18:08:26] <sonda> but actually it is pending request
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[18:11:14] <Kasavage> Hey guys! I'm just getting started with angular and have what I would call an opinion based question. How many directives is too many? Should you utilize directives as much as possible?
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[18:12:08] <Nasp> The angualr token or
[18:12:20] <Nasp> Kasavage yes
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[18:12:38] <Nasp> Im not really sure if the other thing you are suggesting is just to have one big that does everything
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[18:14:52] <SET001> if any of my modules uses ngMock then my applucation routings based on ui-router is not working
[18:14:57] <SET001> why this happens?
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[18:18:13] <SpikeSpiegel> hi there. where are angularjs $cookies stored?
[18:18:17] <SpikeSpiegel> are they domain specific?
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[18:42:01] <MotherMGA> Hello. In Angular2, I have a component <ModalForm> that accepts transcluded content and displays it with the ng-content directive. I'm finding that the parent component (the one that is using ModalForm is complaining about missing properties contained in the transcluded content.
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[18:44:01] <MotherMGA> Is the transcluded content being rendered with the parent scope? I designed my ModalForm so the transcluded you'd pass the object reference in and the form would propagate the model.
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[18:48:05] <jieryn> i'm using angular 1.5.6, it's great, thank you :) how can i update something in the $http.get('/url', {cache:true}) ? something was already fetched and now i can not seem to force it to update....
[18:48:39] <MotherMGA> {cache:false}?
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[18:49:01] <jieryn> mm
[18:49:05] <jieryn> ok, let me try that
[18:49:11] <MotherMGA> uh huh
[18:49:12] <jieryn> i guess i will do 3 requests in total
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[18:49:43] <jieryn> i am trying to cache some preferences, but sometimes/rarely the user will update them, so i $http.put them, and i want to update the locally cached ones
[18:50:28] <jieryn> original $http(cache=true).get, update $http.post, $http.get(cache=false), $http.get(cache=true)
[18:50:37] <jieryn> last two clear and recache
[18:50:48] <jieryn> you expect that to work?
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[18:53:09] <MotherMGA> You have the $http service cache to disable, which is what I suggested. If that doesn't work and this is running in the browser, then you may be fighting browser caching.
[18:53:27] <jieryn> browser is not caching the request
[18:53:37] <jieryn> we set no-cache on all our json payloads
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[18:53:48] <jieryn> and i confirm the browser isn't blocking it, angular is
[18:53:56] <cemersoz> on angular2-meteor, I'm trying to bind a variable to one in the class in ts, works properly when I load the page but does not if I use the router. Any suggestions?
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[19:00:07] <jieryn> yah
[19:00:23] <jieryn> i'm not seeing the cache:false kind of behavior to invalidate the cache, i like it as a nice trick, i hope it works.. :)
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[19:01:22] <NashDev> hola
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[19:11:27] <cemersoz> on angular2-meteor, I'm trying to bind a variable to one in the class in ts, works properly when I load the page but does not if I use the router. Any suggestions?
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[19:21:28] <ngbot> angular.js/v1.5.x cfbe1a7 Igor Minar: revert: fix($timeout): make $flush handle new $timeouts added in $timeout callbacks...
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[19:29:51] <CanyonMan> Is 'SyntaxError: Use of const in strict mode.' when I try to run 'ng new' because my nodejs claism to be v0.10.25 ?
[19:29:56] <CanyonMan> is that too old?
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[19:31:43] <CanyonMan> I wonder what the hell version that is anyway. that's some wacky ubuntu package version.
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[19:34:49] <pharoeste> anybody worked with AngularJS + Laravel? specifically token authentication
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[19:35:12] <pharoeste> i'm trying JWT but I found it quite difficult?
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[19:36:07] <CanyonMan> I yhaven't actualy used any of the jwt libraries I've only read about the basic concept and I like the idea a lot
[19:36:25] <pharoeste> having a tough time here, haha
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[19:36:32] <pharoeste> not experienced with token auth.
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<ngbot> [angular.js] petebacondarwin pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vo8lq
[19:37:13] <ngbot> angular.js/master a82a62e Martin Staffa: docs(ngMessageFormat): add more examples...
[19:37:13] <ngbot> angular.js/master 9a7431c Martin Staffa: docs(ngMessageFormat): move docs for $$messageFormat to module namespace....
[19:37:13] <ngbot> angular.js/master 9575667 Martin Staffa: chore(docsApp): don't display module components if none exist...
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[19:37:18] <Nasp> pharoeste there are countless libraries out there for it for different languages and framework
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[19:37:26] <Nasp> But they all do the same
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[19:38:28] <Ashish> hi
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[19:38:48] <Ashish> Hi I am ROR developer
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[19:39:11] <Ashish> I want learn Angular Js
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[19:39:23] <Ashish> I am very interested in Angular js
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[19:39:47] <Ashish> What is this man
[19:39:50] <Ashish> ????????????????????//
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[19:40:23] <amergin> read a book or two and you'll know more
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[19:52:03] <ngbot> angular.js/master b7f786e Peter Bacon Darwin: style(ngMessageFormat): fix jscs whitespace error
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[20:04:46] <jieryn> MotherMGA, fail
[20:05:05] <MotherMGA> ?
[20:05:13] <jieryn> MotherMGA, the {cache:false} didn't invalidate the cache, subsequent request for '/prefs' uses the previously cached version
[20:05:55] <MotherMGA> I sent you a link to the cache documentation
[20:07:46] <jieryn> yes, i've read it many times already
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[20:08:12] <jieryn> and after you sent it, i re-reviewed it.. either what i'm seeing is a bug, or there isn't a way to invalidate a single cache entry in the $http cache
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[20:08:37] <MotherMGA> set $http.defaults.cache = false when you bootstrap and remove all the rest of the caching parameters. if its still caching, then you're wrong about your app caching in the browser.
[20:09:00] <jieryn> i can see my browser making the requests, it isn't cached
[20:09:08] <jieryn> by the browser
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[20:09:39] <MotherMGA> and you unchecked "disable caching" in your developer tools?
[20:09:42] <jieryn> after the first $http.get({cache:true}) subsequent $http.get for the same url do not even make an http request
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[20:10:28] <jieryn> i can see every http request in network tab of firefox developer tools, even responses that are pulled from firefox's cache are listed as cached
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[20:11:25] <jieryn> i'm not being blocked by the browser cache
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[20:12:15] <bbtech> I'm wanting a $config variable setup based on the current route (using angular-ui-router). I was able to accomplish this by using the .run method and attaching the $config onto the $rootScope. I'm afraid I'm abusing the $rootScope and would like a second opinion.
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<marc_v92> Using the angular-material framework, but all of my dropdowns have a question mark instead of an icon... http://i.imgur.com/yWM5WZj.png
[20:17:53] <marc_v92> I know it's a font issue, but I can't figure out how to solve it. I have the font it's trying to use installed correctly on my machine (it's a default system font), I've cleared my font cache, etc, but no luck. Has anyone else experienced this?
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[20:18:13] <marc_v92> (Not directly related to Angular, but angular-material doesn't have its own IRC channel that I can find, so hoping someone here might have some insight)
[20:18:32] <marc_v92> I should note that my co-workers see the caret icon correctly.
[20:18:33] <Nasp> Have you included the font on the website as well
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[20:18:38] <Nasp> aha
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[20:20:12] <strinh> Anyone been able to get over the hump of triggering an $http call in a nested promise in a unit test?
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<strinh> like: function foo() { return barPromise('baz').then(() => $http.get('http://example.com')) }
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<woxidu> Hi all, I’m trying to get a “submit” button (that lives outside of my form) to invoke the validation messages for the elements in the form and I’m running into trouble. Demo here: http://codepen.io/anon/pen/VjaNVe
[20:22:04] <strinh> try to test that $http.get was called, but $httpBackend.flush() doesn't seem to trigger that get
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[20:22:50] <woxidu> once you click “submit”, you can’t get the pattern failure message
[20:22:54] <MikiSoft> hey
[20:23:47] <MikiSoft> is there someone who can help me, i have some little problem about angular template system
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[20:24:45] <MikiSoft> ?
[20:25:02] <strinh> woxidu: I can't seem to reproduce your problem. If I put in an incorrect string, it shows me the message immediately
[20:25:13] <strinh> MikiSoft: what's the question?
[20:25:30] <woxidu> strinh: it’ll show the pattern failure from focus change, but not after clicking the button
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[20:25:42] <MikiSoft> is it possible to use nested ifs in angular templates
[20:25:44] <MikiSoft> like this: {{ (type == 0 ? 'users' ? (type == 1 ? 'favourites' : 'friends')) }}
[20:25:50] <MikiSoft> but obviously this doesn't work
[20:25:59] <MikiSoft> or i have to use ng-if/show in that case?
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[20:26:07] <strinh> woxidu: it shows the pattern failure while I'm typing, too.
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[20:26:54] <MikiSoft> oh, stupid mistake
[20:27:01] <MikiSoft> {{ (type == 0 ? 'users' : (type == 1 ? 'favourites' : 'friends')) }}
[20:27:11] <MikiSoft> it works now
[20:27:14] <woxidu> strinh: ah, right. here’s how to produce a failure: 1. click save, 2. type invalid string, 3. click save again
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[20:27:51] <woxidu> sorry, I should have included better instructions in the first place
[20:28:59] <woxidu> strinh: can you confirm failure?
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[20:29:04] <ngbot> angular.js/master 8cd9848 Peter Bacon Darwin: docs(ngMessageFormat): fix e2e test in example
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[20:29:25] <strinh> ahh, you figured it out
[20:30:03] <strinh> oh, I see your typo. :) get you a linter, it'll help catch those little issues.
[20:30:07] <MikiSoft> yeah i've figured it out in a moment after posting
[20:30:18] <strinh> ;) always happens like that, right?
[20:30:18] <MikiSoft> thanks for the help though
[20:30:21] <MikiSoft> yeah
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[20:30:23] <MikiSoft> :D
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[20:31:03] <strinh> woxidu: followed your suggestion, and still get the message when I type.
[20:31:23] <woxidu> strinh: what browser?
[20:31:33] <strinh> oh, I see.
[20:31:45] <strinh> no input -> save -> bad input -> save, right?
[20:31:48] <woxidu> right
[20:33:05] <woxidu> ideally, the submit button should just show messages for whatever’s wrong with the form, just like the user had tabbed through everthing
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[20:33:07] <woxidu> everything
[20:33:21] <woxidu> that’s why I $setTouched on the field
[20:34:18] <diphtherial> does angular2 rely on websockets in any capacity, or is this some webpack auto-reloading magic?
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[20:35:21] <diphtherial> i'm running my site behind an nginx proxy, and the site is constantly failing to connect to the address it thinks it's on (localhost:4201 vs. mydomain.com)
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[20:36:30] <diphtherial> never mind, seems that it's no longer occurring.
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[20:39:32] <strinh> woxidu: I think I see the issue, but not a solution. In my tests, I did no input -> save -> '1234' -> save and got no message, which is what we've been talking about.
[20:40:14] <strinh> Nevermind, still isn't right.
[20:40:42] <strinh> I think this has something to do with the way the "improper" input is being input, though.
[20:41:31] <woxidu> what’s weird is how clicking the button breaks the otherwise correct focus-change error reporting
[20:41:56] <strinh> yeah, i see that behavior, too.
[20:42:48] <strinh> have you checked the changelogs since 1.4.8? maybe something has been fixed recently?
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[20:44:14] <woxidu> I haven’t, no
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[20:44:54] <woxidu> I started with the codepen provided from the angular material 1.0.8 demo pages
[20:45:09] <woxidu> and whittled it down to my case
[20:46:58] <woxidu> strinh: just updated the codepen to 1.5.6 and it’s still broken
[20:47:04] <strinh> very strange.
[20:47:18] <woxidu> I also tried using angular-material 1.1.0-rc4
[20:47:25] <strinh> i haven't used ng-messages much, so I don't have much to add other than to say I'd be asking about it too if I was in your shoes.
[20:47:52] * woxidu nods
[20:47:58] <woxidu> thanks for taking a look all the same
[20:48:20] <strinh> it certainly seems like it is running the validation correctly, since the field is showing up as invalid, but what is causing the message to stay hidden?
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[20:49:43] <Frenchiie> is it normal for input data(a property) not to keep propagating to a component if the property is being changed in the base component?
[20:50:30] <Frenchiie> even though the property is changed my data is the same
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[20:51:17] <strinh> Frenchiie: Are you passing a primitive (number, string, boolean) or an object?
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[20:51:38] <Frenchiie> so base component has a data property, base component creates component1 and passes data property as input to component1. data property changes in base component periodically but input in component1 stays the same.
[20:51:46] <Frenchiie> strinh: its an object
[20:51:49] <Frenchiie> strinh: a JSON
[20:51:51] <strinh> woxidu: my thought is that you're hitting an edge case of ng-messages, might be worth opening an issue
[20:52:15] <strinh> Frenchiie: Can you make a plunker or jsfiddle or codepen that demonstrates it?
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[20:58:57] <woxidu> strinh: looks like it’s less broken with md-auto-hide="false"
[20:59:45] <strinh> oh, yeah! interesting. maybe it's a material design bug, which would make more sense.
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[21:00:17] <woxidu> I might be able to hack around this by hiding md-auto-hide in an ng-attr
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[21:07:14] <strinh> maybe that?
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[21:13:34] <woxidu> strinh: yes, but how do I conditionally remove a class?
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[21:15:35] <woxidu> strinh: if I go into the inspector and remove that class, it works, but I’d like to remove that class once the field is touched
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[21:17:55] <woxidu> strinh: it’s ugly, but I think I did it
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[21:18:27] <strinh> Is it the change you made in the codepen?
[21:18:43] <woxidu> I have to set md-auto-hide on the ng-messages div, but also set ng-class=“!field.$touched && ‘md-auto-hide’”
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[21:18:53] <woxidu> <div ng-messages="userForm.phone.$error" ng-class="!userForm.phone.$touched && 'md-auto-hide'" md-auto-hide="false">
[21:19:12] <strinh> yeah, that's pretty clever but, yeah, kinda hacky. I'd definitely open an issue with angular-material-design
[21:19:16] <woxidu> so it’s not md-auto-hide until it’s touched
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[21:19:27] <woxidu> sigh
[21:19:36] <woxidu> yeah, I guess I’ll open an issue
[21:19:45] <strinh> they should be able to do that on their side.
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[21:21:47] <nishttal> how do I get a instance of $http inside an onclick event?
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[21:22:19] <strinh> nishttal: Are you using ng-click?
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[21:22:46] <nishttal> strinh, actually i'm adding elements using d3
[21:23:05] <nishttal> strinh, i could use ng-click.. what function does that call?
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[21:23:51] <strinh> whatever you bind it to. like: function MyController() { this.clickHandler = () => console.log('boo!'); }
[21:24:02] <diphtherial> i'm having an issue with http.get() sending a 'preflight' OPTIONS request (in keeping with CORS), but it's sending the headers i defined on the get request in this OPTIONS request as well
[21:24:05] <strinh> <div ng-click="$ctrl.clickHandler">
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[21:24:28] <diphtherial> for some reason either my app or the server doesn't like that -- is there a way to have the headers sent in the GET request, but not in the preflight OPTIONS request?
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[21:24:51] <Admin__> angular good for making chrome extension?
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[21:25:57] <strinh> diphtherial: what is the error you're getting?
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[21:26:20] <nishttal> strinh, now how do I call sendCalendarRequest from ng-click?
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[21:28:12] <strinh> nishttal: in the controller you need to attach the function to the scope. Define your sendCalendarRequest function within the controller function so you don't have to pass the $http directly, and can get it just with the dependency injection. I'll draw up a plunker for you.
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[21:32:22] <diphtherial> strinh: XMLHttpRequest cannot load <URL REDACTED>. Request header field Authorization is not allowed by Access-Control-Allow-Headers in preflight response.
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[21:33:23] <diphtherial> if i comment out headers.append(), the OPTIONS is fine, but the GET fails since the request is unauthenticated
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[21:33:38] <strinh> nishttal: that should do it. Then in the element you want to click just add ng-click="sendCalendarRequest"
[21:34:07] <nishttal> strinh, ng-click="sendCalendarRequest(2016)" ?
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[21:34:46] <strinh> yeah, sorry. needed to invoke the function, that's right.
[21:35:27] <nishttal> strinh, one more thing.. the way I had it before sendCalendarRequest was being called automatically on page load .. now its now
[21:35:34] <nishttal> strinh, *not..
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[21:36:01] <strinh> diphtherial: seems like that's the expected behavior. Do you have control over the server-side? Need to set Access-Control-Allow-Headers.
[21:36:26] <strinh> nishttal: just add sendCalendarRequest(); to your controller.
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[21:40:31] <diphtherial> strinh: i do, and the headers are being set appropriately -- it's the inclusion of 'Authorization: Bearer <token>' in the OPTIONS request that causes it to foul up
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[21:41:26] <diphtherial> the OPTIONS request succeeds if i leave out that header, but then the GET fails
[21:41:28] <anfaenger> Hi guys, submodules are always named modulename.submodulename. Is that a convention or is that mandatory?
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[21:41:42] <anfaenger> Thanks
[21:41:51] <diphtherial> sorry, to clarify, i mean the cross-origin headers from the server are being set appropriately; i'm using flask-CORS, which handles most of that for me
[21:42:25] <nishttal> strinh, i am trying to set the ng-click attribute in d3 but lookins like its not liking it
[21:42:29] <strinh> diphtherial: Are you setting $httpProvider.defaults.useXDomain = true ?
[21:42:43] <nishttal> .attr("ng-click", function(d) {
[21:42:43] <nishttal> //sendCalendarRequest(d[0]);
[21:42:43] <nishttal> console.log("test");
[21:42:44] <nishttal> })
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[21:44:47] <strinh> nishttal: hmmm... that's in issue since it needs to run through the $compile service to get the reference to the function. You might need to wrap the D3 stuff in an angular service, like angular-dc or something.
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[21:45:32] <nishttal> strinh, aah damn! getting rid of angularjs then.. jquery should suffice
[21:45:35] <strinh> .attr("ng-click", fn()) is not === <element ng-click="fn()">
[21:45:47] <nishttal> strinh, yeah looking like that
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[21:49:33] <nishttal> strinh, thanks for your help
[21:49:38] <strinh> np!
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[21:54:43] <nishttal> strinh, so there is no way to call a function in $scope FROM a normal javascript function?
[21:54:56] <CalvinKlein> why the console show undefined?
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[21:55:21] <nishttal> strinh, bcoz if I could then I could use the d3 onclick() event and call sendCalendarRequest() from that
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[21:56:11] <FREEDOM> joesterjoseph do you like jojos
[21:56:17] <FREEDOM> (bizarre adventure)
[21:56:20] <strinh> yeah, you can get the controller scope like: var controllerScope = angular.element(".controllerDiv").scope()
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[21:56:27] <strinh> does that make sense, nishttal?
[21:56:42] <JoesterJoseph> I want to read the manga not watch the show
[21:56:57] <FREEDOM> it's good
[21:56:57] <JoesterJoseph> dont think i can handle the show after some friends played the game
[21:57:05] <JoesterJoseph> from what i hear the manga is great
[21:57:12] <JoesterJoseph> just need time to do it now
[21:57:33] <strinh> CalvinKlien: because when the controller is instantiated, the value of $scope.example1 *is* undefined. It's not defined until the then is run from the $http get.
[21:57:37] <FREEDOM> I'm learning ng1 for my job and I understand the basics
[21:57:58] <FREEDOM> can someone ask me an intermediate ng1 question so I can see how I stack up
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[21:58:04] <FREEDOM> quiz me
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[21:58:10] <Foxandxss> sure
[21:58:14] <Foxandxss> let me think
[21:58:16] <JoesterJoseph> question about ng-model on <input type="text" > tag can ng-model be bound to a function? that way when there is more text inputed a function gets called?
[21:58:31] <Foxandxss> how would you give a transcluded html a new scope
[21:58:32] <FREEDOM> joesterjoseph you'll want to use a custom directive
[21:58:38] <nishttal> strinh, let me try
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[21:59:14] <JoesterJoseph> custom directive with an input tag to manipulate it the way i need it?
[21:59:23] <strinh> nishttal: just make sure you replace my ".controllerDiv" with whatever element the controller is attached to. Are you using JQLite or jQuery?
[21:59:38] <CalvinKlein> strinh : what do you suggest me for to set the response value to that scope?
[21:59:43] <nishttal> strinh, jquery
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[22:00:01] <FREEDOM> foxandxss... silly question but how are you transcluding the new html? my stab in the dark is to use ui-router to inject the html and use the controller as syntax when injecting the new view.
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[22:00:16] <Foxandxss> no no, don't go overboard
[22:00:18] <Foxandxss> say I have
[22:00:25] <Foxandxss> lets make an easier question
[22:00:28] <Foxandxss> say I have
[22:00:37] <strinh> CalvinKlein: There isn't a way to have that value set until after the $http.get has come back. What are you trying to do? Notice that if you put the console.log inside of the then, it should work as expected.
[22:00:38] <Foxandxss> <my-dir>{{header}}</my-dir>
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[22:01:01] <Foxandxss> we transclude that {{header}} inside our my-dir and use it
[22:01:09] <Foxandxss> what's the scope on that header? my-dir has an isolated scope
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[22:01:31] <CalvinKlein> strinh : I need to set a the response in that scopem for to use it in a view
[22:02:12] <strinh> You can do it like you're doing now, it will just be undefined until you get to the then block, if that makes sense. Angular will take care of updating the view when the $scope value changes.
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[22:03:03] <CalvinKlein> strinh : what happen is exactly is not updating the value in the view, is empty
[22:03:24] <nishttal> strinh, "looking up elements via seleactors not supported by jqLite!"
[22:03:29] <strinh> in your jsfiddle, I'm seeing it updated.
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[22:03:44] <FREEDOM> whaaa foxandxss that's difficult to answer. I must read up on this topic
[22:03:53] <strinh> nishttal: yeah, you're going to have to use document.querySelector() to get the element, then.
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[22:04:12] <strinh> so:
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[22:04:16] <Foxandxss> FREEDOM: :)
[22:04:33] <strinh> document.element(document.querySelector('.controllerDiv')).scope()
[22:04:43] <strinh> oops. angular.element(...)
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[22:05:45] <FREEDOM> foxandxss is transclusion used that often in ng1? isn't the functionality better implemented with states and views?
[22:06:02] <Foxandxss> those are different things
[22:06:04] <Foxandxss> and yes, really used
[22:06:13] <FREEDOM> hmm ok, I'll have to read up
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[22:06:22] <nishttal> strinh, WOW.. that worked!! you rock!
[22:06:30] <nishttal> strinh, thanks a ton!!
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[22:06:43] <strinh> glad I could help, nishttal!
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[22:06:59] <strinh> .scope() and .injector() are super-powers, man.
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[22:07:37] <strinh> nishttal: one last warning: make sure you can use document.querySelector in all the browsers you care about.
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[22:08:08] <FREEDOM> foxandxss, how long does it take to "get" angularjs? I've been grinding tutorials for a week now and new terms come up everyday
[22:08:09] <strinh> i think ie8 has a weird implementation, but everything else should be cool.
[22:08:33] <nishttal> strinh, this is an internal app.. only chrome.. but thanks for letting me know
[22:08:35] <FREEDOM> like today I just learned the difference between factories and services...
[22:08:57] <strinh> FREEDOM: factories vs. services vs. providers is a classic NG1 head scratcher. :)
[22:09:06] <FREEDOM> yeah it is!
[22:09:32] <strinh> In my experience, you won't "get" angular until you've used it on a real (side-)project.
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[22:10:26] <FREEDOM> hmm.. that's going to be tough
[22:10:46] <strinh> FREEDOM: the run/config phase thing is another tough one to follow until you use it, too.
[22:11:12] <strinh> Dependency injection in general is a tough concept to grok until you have some experience with it under your belt, I've found personally.
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[22:12:23] <strinh> CalvinKlein: are you not seeing {{example1}} being interpolated properly when you view your jsfiddle?
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[22:12:30] * diphtherial ingests dependencies to get them under the belt
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[22:18:35] <Foxandxss> FREEDOM: there is no answer to that
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[22:20:25] <FREEDOM> nooooooooooo
[22:22:23] <FREEDOM> what are the best steps for an angularjs newbie to graduate to intermediate level?
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[22:22:48] <FREEDOM> I'm currently digesting egghead.io and youtube tutorials but there's so much to process...
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[22:24:23] <strinh> FREEDOM: Make a meaningful side-project for a week or two. Make some constrained, but non-trivial web app that does something useful for you.
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[22:25:18] <strinh> no shopping carts or to do lists, something you'll actually use so you can think through the UX and challenge yourself
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[22:25:48] <strinh> or write a wrapper around a JS library that turns it into an injectable service.
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[22:27:06] <FREEDOM> strinh god damn... all I've been doing are todo lists...
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[22:27:12] <FREEDOM> must graduate to the next tier
[22:27:40] <strinh> FREEDOM: and that's why you haven't run into transclusion, services vs. factories, advanced directive stuff, etc.
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[22:27:43] <strinh> :)
[22:28:23] <Foxandxss> FREEDOM: time and effort
[22:28:24] <Foxandxss> nothing else
[22:28:27] <strinh> To do lists and other trivial apps are good for taking you from no-knowledge to beginner, but getting from beginner to intermediate involves having to problem solve for yourself, i think.
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[22:29:08] <strinh> That's why there is a ton of literature for beginners and advanced (just optimizations and tips/tricks at that point), but almost none of intermediate. That's probably true of all skills.
[22:29:15] <FREEDOM> true. what was your project when graduating to intermediate level?
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[22:30:13] <strinh> I worked at a retail store and wrote an app that created receiving logs for inventory that tied into our cloud-based point of sale service. Sounds complicated, and it kind of was, but really helped figure out all of the different moving parts.
[22:30:39] <strinh> it's nice to find a problem you can get paid to solve, but that's a luxury.
[22:31:24] <FREEDOM> n.. nice...
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[22:35:53] <Foxandxss> why you say "graduating?"
[22:35:58] <Foxandxss> is not like there are different levels
[22:35:59] <Foxandxss> :P
[22:36:51] <strinh> Foxandxss: agreed, but there are different "levels" of employment, ie. Junior -> undefined -> Senior.
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[22:36:54] <strinh> ;)
[22:37:09] <Foxandxss> I guess
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[22:37:21] <Foxandxss> a title that the employer puts to you
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[22:38:04] <strinh> if you get the job, that is. and whether you get the job can depend on the chops you have/display, no?
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[22:39:15] <FREEDOM> strinh I'm currently in the phase where I watch videos but end up having to google a bunch of jargon because I feel uneasy not knowing what everything means... is this typical for a newbie learning angularjs?
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[22:39:54] <FREEDOM> like just learning custom directives, I had to google isolated/shared scopes
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[22:43:09] <strinh> FREEDOM: yeah, i'd say it's a common complaint about ng1, which they've tried to alleviate in ng2.
[22:43:40] <strinh> no $digest, no $scope, no ng-whatever attributes, etc. etc.
[22:43:57] <FREEDOM> damn... and I just have to power through it? so like.. keep googling until it comes together?
[22:44:38] <strinh> yeah, that'll help you muddle your way through, for sure. But, at least for me, until I made my own apps, it never fully sank in.
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[22:45:27] <strinh> FREEDOM: let me make a guess about your background: you do not come from Java or .NET.
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[22:45:46] <FREEDOM> no I don't
[22:47:03] <FREEDOM> my web dev background is mostly HTML/CSS and writing imperative jquery snippets that manipulate the dom... I just got hired into a new position and need to learn angularjs for a project as a jr dev
[22:47:03] <strinh> I've found that people who come from Java or .NET just "get" angular, because a lot of the concepts come from that style of development. Controllers, Factories, Templates. All very common in that world.
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[22:47:40] <strinh> Converting jq -> ng is a pretty good exercise, too.
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[22:47:55] <FREEDOM> ah ok
[22:48:22] <strinh> do you have the option of pair-programming with a more senior dev at your work?
[22:50:01] <FREEDOM> yeah I think that's what they're going to do once i get onboarded tomorrow. I'm just anxious because I don't know what they're expecting me to know.
[22:50:41] <FREEDOM> I've just been digesting tutorials for a week so hopefully they're not going to expect much
[22:51:02] <strinh> well, here's hoping the senior dev will remember his/her own flailing beginnings as a beginner at AngularJS.
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[22:51:46] <FREEDOM> haha hopefully...
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[22:52:17] <LiftAndGetMoney> Any part of angular you feel comfortable with already?
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[22:53:55] <JoesterJoseph> @FREEDOM javascript the good parts and Angularjs up and running are pretty insightful books as to how angular works, I would recommend reading those
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[22:54:25] <FREEDOM> LiftAndGetMoney, I'm comfortable with core concepts that I've been writing heavily.. mainly creating ui-router views and states, writing different service and controller functions
[22:54:28] <FREEDOM> still very basic
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[22:55:20] <Foxandxss> FREEDOM: I put my directives book free
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[22:56:44] <FREEDOM> ahh nice, thanks Jesus
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[23:03:56] <FREEDOM> ok I'm going to install tiberian sun. thanks for your help everyone
[23:04:05] <Robs> ok.... hello!
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[23:04:10] <FREEDOM> hello robs
[23:04:14] <strinh> freedom: good luck at your new gig!
[23:04:20] <FREEDOM> thanks strinh!
[23:04:22] <FREEDOM> viet power
[23:04:30] <Robs> can i ask some questions over here about ng2?
[23:04:33] <strinh> woot!
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[23:05:04] <Robs> huh hello?
[23:05:13] <Robs> anybode?
[23:05:21] <Robs> y :)
[23:05:37] <strinh> Robs: shoot and see if anyone can help.
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[23:06:14] <Robs> ok.... well i've got this problem with a get request
[23:06:21] <Robs> i want to get an json object
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[23:06:54] <Robs> the api works an i get this response: {"id":1,"name":"volleybal","steps_per_minute":20}]
[23:07:06] <Robs> [{"id":1,"name":"volleybal","steps_per_minute":20}]
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[23:07:34] <strinh> Robs: are you using typescript?
[23:07:40] <Robs> yes
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[23:08:00] <Robs> this is my code in the service.ts
[23:08:06] <Robs> ...
[23:08:11] <strinh> The response object has a .json() method
[23:08:13] <phelix> I have created a directive. All my controller and services etc are working just fine and the directive is working when I add the attribute into the element. But for some reason nothing I add to $scope is displaying on my template... Anyone have an idea what I could be missing?
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[23:08:27] <Robs> getSport(name){ //console.log(this._getUrl + name + '.json'); var result = this._http.get(this._getUrl + name + '.json') .map(res => res.json()); console.log(result); return result; }
[23:08:34] <Foxandxss> Robs: you can
[23:08:44] <Foxandxss> just need a bit of patience
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[23:09:38] <Foxandxss> underscore for private is ugly
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[23:09:52] <Foxandxss> and you are using http wrong
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[23:10:26] <Robs> ok, can you tell me why it is wrong?
[23:10:47] <Foxandxss> because it is an async operation
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[23:10:57] <Foxandxss> and you are using it like if it were sync
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[23:12:27] <phelix> If the directive is working properly do I still need to setup a ng-controller to get scope working properly? I figured that if my app is acanning html and my directive is working than so should variables from $scope?
[23:12:29] <Robs> OK
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[23:13:13] <Robs> Property 'http' does not exist on type 'SportService'. any
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[23:13:23] <Robs> Is what i get
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[23:15:05] <Robs> what would you suggest then?
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[23:17:38] <Foxandxss> reading the doc again :P
[23:17:46] <Robs> haha lol!
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[23:25:22] <Robs> i get an object response but now it wont attached to te form with ngmodel
[23:25:29] <Robs> i will digg deeper
[23:25:33] <Robs> tnx!
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[23:29:00] <Gaurav__> Hi Guys
[23:29:28] <Gaurav__> I am facing issue in running the services HTTP get
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<Gaurav__> ,i m not able to fetch data from service url if the same data i copy and put in js folder in data.json i m getting but putting tht url the blank page is coming.plz help me out. it is an https:\\....type url.
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