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[00:00:08] <sigurding> what is the prefered way in AJS2 to do a deep copy?

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[00:45:54] <smw> how do I force angular to update a ng-repeat'd element?

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[00:46:33] <smw> right now I have a odd situation where it only updates when I start typing in an input box...

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[01:00:43] <smw> update: it is becoming obvious that this in some way involves scope.apply, but I don't understand how to use it yet

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[01:07:33] <ben_____> hello

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[01:09:47] <djbutterchicken> Can anybody recommend a form framework that will automatically handle hooking up server side validation?

[01:10:28] <ben_____> beyond me djbutter...

[01:10:35] <ben_____> I am looking for help with ngRoute

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[01:33:07] <da_wunder> djbutterchicken: would server give that information?

[01:33:28] <zeezey> da_wunder yes

[01:33:42] <icanteven> gawd I'm so hungry after seeing that name

[01:33:55] <da_wunder> so why need to get any other info?

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[01:38:57] <wafflejock> smw: what're you doing where you expect the bindings to update?

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[01:39:49] <wafflejock> smw: if it's to do with some sort of event listener not using some angular service then typically you do have to call scope.$apply to run the $digest process and have anything being watched that changed will get updated

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[01:40:27] <wafflejock> ben_____: still stuck, whats the issue?

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[01:59:19] <ra__> The i18n described here http://blog.thoughtram.io/angular/2015/03/21/angular-and-i18n-the-new-world.html sounded interesting but it doesn't seem like there has been anything on what the i18n story is for angular 2 as of late - have people been rolling their own i18n with angular 2?

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[02:02:54] <smw> wafflejock, I was playing with the standard todo app loading data from firebase. I ended up using angular.element(document.getElementById('todoList')).scope().$apply()

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[02:03:27] <smw> wafflejock, I couldn't find another way to get scope.

[02:03:55] <wafflejock> smw: ah there's an angular fire module out there that should handle that kind of thing for you when new data comes in, haven't used it much but that is one of the cases where you'd want to trigger an update

[02:04:29] <wafflejock> smw: haven't really used firebase but basically you usually want to wrap up regular JS libraries in angular service objects so they can be injected and handle things like when new data comes in firing $apply on $rootscope so everything updates

[02:04:54] <smw> wafflejock, yep

[02:05:12] <smw> wafflejock, I am new to javascript, angularjs, and firebase... so this is an experience :-P

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[02:05:57] <smw> wafflejock, I figured trying to port the todo app to firebase would be a good first step, didn't even look for the angularfire module.

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[02:07:31] <smw> wafflejock, my real issue is I have never done frontend web dev before :-P

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[02:24:52] <ZetaTwo> Hi! I'm trying out angluar2 for the first time and have a question. I'm creating an app which uses Node+Koa for server side and Angular for client-side. I'm a little bit confused by all the client side references to "node_modules". Is the idea to expose the entire node_modules directory to the clients?

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[02:30:49] <idonteven> that's no moon!

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[03:30:56] <wafflejock> smw: stepped away for a while there, gotcha though, sounds like you jumped in the deep end a little bit but sounds like you're finding your way around reasonably well too if you get stuck see the topic here has a link to plnkr or !help to get it to share what you're trying (minimal reproduction)

[03:30:56] <angularjs_bot> AngularJS Plunker template http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS

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[03:32:29] <wafflejock> ZetaTwo: in most cases npm is used for server side dependencies and getting build tools (gulp grunt etc etc.) believe with angular2 the current stuff is using some npm scripts for doing some of the builds in the tutorials (from what I've heard from others) but in most cases you don't actually have the node_modules directly being used by client side code

[03:33:01] <wafflejock> ZetaTwo: that said npm is just a tool for getting dependencies so if your front end dependencies are available with package.json files for npm and are in the registry they could be installed that way as well

[03:34:40] <ZetaTwo> ok, I could (should?) set up some kind of build script to copy relevant parts from node_modules to something like "lib" or "js" which is exposed to the clinet?

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[03:38:09] <wafflejock> ZetaTwo: typically yeah you'll have some sort of build process in place for concatenating and minifying code for actually deploying it, quite a few options at this point but think grunt gulp or webpack are the most popular options, grunt is config based like maven, gulp is based in a large part on using node streams to pipe data through a line of processes and out to a file in the end, webpack seems to be mostly convention based

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[03:39:11] <wafflejock> ZetaTwo: personally have used grunt in the past, and more gulp recently (gulp 4 in particular) have just looked at some demo webpack stuff but have heard it's pretty good as well, other options out there too but those are most talked about here

[03:39:18] <ZetaTwo> but if I use SystemJS like in the tutorials, how does it know where to find what if everything is minified? Or do I just skip SystemJS, minify all the js into one file and load it?

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[03:40:30] <wafflejock> ZetaTwo: not sure about this like I said my use of webpack has been limited but think it works with those async dependencies and making sets of bundles that are based on the dependency tree https://webpack.github.io/docs/comparison.html

[03:41:20] <ZetaTwo> ok, it sounds like a standard/best practice way of doing this hasn't really been settled upon yet?

[03:41:24] <wafflejock> ZetaTwo: mostly I'm just experienced with NG 1 so the asynchronous module stuff didn't really work great there due to the one injector per app instance and config/run blocks being executed on DOM loaded, but NG 2 breaks things up and has a tree of injectors

[03:41:42] <ZetaTwo> since the tutorials just expose node_modules directly

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[03:42:54] <wafflejock> ZetaTwo: well it just became beta like last week so things are definitely not entirely solid yet but some links here might have other options https://github.com/timjacobi/angular2-education haven't put the time in to explore this yet

[03:44:11] <ZetaTwo> yeah, I mean, I'm not expecting it to be and it's not really a problem. I went for the tutorial way for now since it seems to work. Will probably wait and see what people use and come back to it later then

[03:44:18] <ZetaTwo> thanks for the help and the links

[03:44:46] <wafflejock> ZetaTwo: np let me know if you come upon some revelation nice to have people who came before tell me what holes to look out for :)

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[04:07:20] <ashgotti> Evening. I need a bit of help with ngClass with 1.4.8. In my JSON file, I have a field. I'd like to apply a class depending on that field's value but I can't get it to work: ngClass="{ 'banner_1' : blob.nid == '23' }" Is this the right syntax?

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[04:10:27] <nanoz> hello

[04:10:39] <nanoz> what i must know before starting with angularjs ?

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[04:11:02] <edrocks> nothing

[04:11:16] <edrocks> just go download it and follow the intro tutorial

[04:11:32] <edrocks> nanoz: https://docs.angularjs.org/tutorial

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[04:14:12] <wafflejock> nanoz: helps to have a basic understanding of JS, HTML and CSS since angular just builds on those technologies and lets you extend the tags/attributes you can use in HTML by writing JS to run when it finds those tags/attributes, you can certainly learn that stuff in parallel with Angular but nice if you understand what you can do without it too

[04:14:22] <wafflejock> ashgotti: looks good here

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[04:17:30] <wafflejock> ashgotti: ah should have been ng-class not ngClass

[04:17:38] <wafflejock> ashgotti: http://plnkr.co/edit/i81FnZVmsnq6sNhkYcV2?p=preview

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[04:19:59] <ashgotti> wafflejock: much appreciated! I ended up doing the logic in the controller and setting the class there in the scope.

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[04:20:38] <ashgotti> wafflejock++

[04:21:32] <wafflejock> ashgotti: no prob

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[04:23:24] <nanoz> why angularjs ?

[04:24:41] <nanoz> the template looks like handler.js ... just looking

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[04:25:43] <wafflejock> nanoz: data binding, dependency injection, and directives that allow you to build things into components or use the huge swath of third party modules

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[04:26:42] <wafflejock> nanoz: nothing you can't accomplish with JS itself can be accomplished with Angular it is itself just a bunch of JS but the ecosystem of components and data binding is a bit thing when it comes to development time (at least for me)

[04:27:00] <nanoz> i have seen this in different libraries :/

[04:27:09] <wafflejock> nanoz: people might tout the "testability" as well

[04:27:20] <wafflejock> nanoz: it's not entirely unique but has a high adoption rate

[04:27:42] <wafflejock> if it isn't a professional thing for you this might not matter or if you think "this is not a popularity contents" (but really it partially is)

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[04:28:52] <wafflejock> nanoz: it's not for everyone but it's great for anyone who had previous experience and wants the features from other front end frameworks like Flex with AS3 (back when Adobe was trying to care about development) or Silverlight from MS

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[04:44:30] <gho5t> next question: why not write everything in assembly?

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[04:59:05] <ycon_> Hi all, I'm trying to improve this $http. It works, but it's very slow/buggy. Here's my sample code: http://dpaste.com/1FFMFBA

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[05:03:06] <wafflejock> gho5t: :) hey if the roller coaster tycoon guy could do it...

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[05:11:55] <wafflejock> ycon_: hard to tell where you're having a problem there, what in particular is "buggy" also can use the profiler to see what it's spending time doing

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[05:12:42] <ycon_> wafflejock: firstly, some of the directive's randomly sit outside their div (the images, say 1 in 10)

[05:13:15] <wafflejock> ycon_: Paul Irish has quite a few videos on using the profiling tools to see what's going on performance was or in the execution of the code https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xx_dkv9DEY

[05:13:32] <wafflejock> ycon_: if you can do a minimal reproduction on plnkr can take a look otherwise just gonna be taking wild shots in the dark

[05:13:57] <ycon_> wafflejock: I'd put it online (my app) http://stashdapp.com/azure/ios/www/index.html#/cards

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[05:16:44] <wafflejock> ycon_: hmm how do I reproduce the issue, just flicking things away on my laptop not really seeing a problem, is it something more noticeable on mobile or happening on your laptop/desktop as well?

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[05:17:38] <ycon_> wafflejock: hmm no its on my PC and on mobile . Ususally when flicking through quicker. Ive got network throttling at 3G (slow one)

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[05:21:52] <wafflejock> ycon_: well on the initial load with 3G throttling definitely notice the non-gzipped ionic bundle being 1.9MB which is rough for initial loading so gzipping that will help, images are taking about 9s to load so if you're flipping fast you can get to the point that there isn't enough cached and some things are being shown that aren't loaded yet entirely

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[05:22:20] <ycon_> wafflejock: this is what I mean about randomly not sitting in the div's http://i.imgur.com/st0ncZ1.jpg

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[05:22:49] <wafflejock> ycon_: if you can't do something to increase the load time for the images might need to do something about precaching stuff better (not sure if that means just load more up front or figure out how to load more in the background during idle time or what exactly)

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[05:23:24] <wafflejock> ycon_: huh haven't seen that, if the div has a set size and overflow:hidden it shouldn't happen

[05:24:35] <wafflejock> ah yeah think that's happening cause of how your layout is setup actually

[05:24:43] <wafflejock> when I have the debug panel up high enough I can reproduce that kind of layout

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[05:25:36] <wafflejock> sorry meant decrease the load time not increase (probably obvious, was thinking increase the speed)

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[05:29:50] <ycon_> wafflejock: I've tried movingn around the content in my HTML, and putting a div around it. No luck. Also, when it just pull's 1 item per getURL, the issues doesnt happen....

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[05:30:47] <wafflejock> ycon_: are you seeing that happen regularly? also can you inspect the elements to see what's going on and why it's not clipping or not lining up the elements properly

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[05:33:50] <wafflejock> ycon_: only seemed to happen here when I had the debug panel up far enough and then stays that way, but pulling the debug panel down and giving it room it seems to correct itself, looks like the "yes-text" part has a margin:auto that's able to shrink when I make the screen smaller but the part with the image as the background has a set size so it doesn't shrink when the margin does on the text part

[05:34:22] <ycon_> yep regularly. So it happens all the time when compiled as the app (on xcode). Here's inspector with it happening http://i.imgur.com/Omt9HCN.jpg

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[05:35:35] <ycon_> wafflejock: what is most strange is this only started happening when I set it up to pull a list of items from the API, instead of individual ones. Pulling indiviual json objects ie {item1} instead of [{item1},{item2}]

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[05:35:56] <ycon_> So individual getURL's had no bugs/errors

[05:36:21] <wafflejock> ycon_: yeah so appears when I have the throttling on the images that are "lower in the stack" can be loading before the ones that are supposed to be covering it

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[05:38:31] <ycon_> wafflejock: If I set it up like this (pulling 1 object per getURL) it works fine. I use unshift. http://dpaste.com/3VS14G8 . I need to replicate it working well for a group of objects tho....

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[05:39:56] <wafflejock> ycon_: personally if I were writing this one I'd probably just do it as a custom directive and just have 2 images instead of a stack of more than that since they can only be ever looking at the two (the one they're swiping away and the one behind it) this way can avoid the ng-repeat and the processing that goes with it during every digest as your fetching more data in the background, also in that case if the "behind" image isn't lo

[05:40:53] <ycon_> wafflejock: be back later but want to talk more about that- I need to refine it a lot

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[05:41:23] <ycon_> thx

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[05:54:28] <ricoalpha> Hi everyone…..anyone using  Jinja2 + AngularJS + bootstrap-multiselect?  got some integration issue https://github.com/davidstutz/bootstrap-multiselect/issues/676

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[05:57:15] <wafflejock> ricoalpha: ah huh haven't had this issue myself cause I just leave all the template processing to angular so I don't ever replace the interpolation provider defaults but could see how that might be a problem if you're using third party components where their templates use the regular interpolation

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[05:59:16] <wafflejock> ricoalpha: ah actually this component isn't written to work as an angular module either though so the interpolation probably isn't the problem in that case

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[06:03:39] <wafflejock> ricoalpha: if you google for "angular bootstrap multiselect" there are a few one's out there people have at least started on and open sourced but appears not all kept up to date https://github.com/sebastianha/angular-bootstrap-multiselect <-- here's one, if you were to use one of those and they load a template like here https://github.com/sebastianha/angular-bootstrap-multiselect/blob/master/angular-bootstrap-multiselect.js#L317 yo

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[06:05:06] <ricoalpha> got a problem with Jinja2 +  angularJS integration https://github.com/davidstutz/bootstrap-multiselect/issues/676

[06:05:20] <wafflejock> ^^

[06:05:30] <wafflejock> wth?

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[09:58:49] <jdo_dk> Best book to learn angularjs? I have been looking at some different books, but some of them covers angularjs 1.2 or 1.3. Is this bad or not that big difference between 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 ?

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[10:07:54] <sigurding> anyone here can tell me, what is the comparable to angular.copy()/extend() in AJS2?

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[11:48:56] <douglas_costa> anyone here writes in angular 1.5?

[11:49:02] <douglas_costa> Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property '$canActivate' of undefined

[11:49:07] <douglas_costa> no info on google

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[11:50:47] <douglas_costa> i think this is about ui router

[11:51:14] <douglas_costa> and using .component instead of .directive

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[12:22:13] <Anatoli_k> Hello. Is exist any solution to scramble or hide my angularjs code?

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[12:24:51] <Ozd> hey

[12:25:02] <Ozd> is there any very very simple file upload code sample somewhere you know?

[12:25:14] <Ozd> i need one select file button and one upload button

[12:25:26] <Ozd> nothing else

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[12:29:10] <douglas_costa> quick question

[12:29:23] <douglas_costa> <div layout="row" layout-padding layout-wrap layout-fill style="padding-bottom: 32px;" ng-cloak>

[12:29:27] <douglas_costa> this is my wrap div

[12:29:33] <douglas_costa> im putting a md-divider

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[12:29:45] <douglas_costa> but its vertical instead of horizontal

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[12:48:55] <ycon_> Hi all, I'm trying to make a plunkr but cant understand why it isn't working. When trying to integrate my $http (for an API get) it breaks

[12:49:12] <jdo_dk> Link ?

[12:49:15] <ycon_> This is it: http://plnkr.co/edit/7ScnGyy2eAmGwcJ7XZ2Z?p=preview . The script.js has a section commented out- this is the part which 'breaks' it

[12:49:42] <ycon_> (but the commented code is working ok in my test app

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[12:55:13] <jdo_dk> ycon_: you add the code below the line:

[12:55:13] <jdo_dk> angular.module('starter', ['ionic', 'ionic.contrib.ui.tinderCards']) right ?

[12:55:23] <ycon_> jdo_dk: of course

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[13:00:07] <jdo_dk> ycon_:http://plnkr.co/edit/zmPExyhvKCl3u2goSRYn?p=preview

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[13:01:19] <ycon_> jdo_dk: nice! Thank you. I'm trying to add a function to "post" to a url on the swipe action. Helps for testing in a plunkr

[13:01:37] <jdo_dk> ;)

[13:01:39] <ycon_> where was I wrong?

[13:02:01] <jdo_dk> You missed some ], ) and ,..

[13:02:21] <jdo_dk> plunkr is telling you where you were having and error.

[13:02:23] <ycon_> very new to js. Ta. I need a good text editor which will tell me ha

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[13:02:45] <da_wunder> i recommend jetbrains products

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[13:23:35] <ycon_> da_wunder: thanks- helping me with my syntax already

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[13:25:54] <ycon_> da_wunder: I'm trying to get my API to post when an action occurs (a swipe). Can you give me some direction? In script.js (http://plnkr.co/edit/7ScnGyy2eAmGwcJ7XZ2Z?p=preview)

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[13:27:27] <da_wunder> just attach that post to your swipe functions

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[13:27:42] <da_wunder> $scope.cardSwipedLeft/Right

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[13:29:39] <walid> yo dudes

[13:29:43] <ycon_> da_wunder: Ahh. so the below bit is where it is 'defined'. Heres wher I really struggled- I want it to post a value from the card (ie the json data which makes the card)

[13:30:21] <walid> angular 1.5 - bindings: { title: "="}

[13:30:31] <walid> i got this in my options var in the component

[13:30:41] <walid> <geo-location title="hello"></geo-location>

[13:30:49] <walid> the title isn't binding...

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[13:31:12] <da_wunder> ycon_: change cardSwiped($index) => cardSwiped(card)

[13:31:25] <da_wunder> so that you have the whole card object in your use

[13:31:47] <da_wunder> then do what ever post you want in controller and with that card data

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[13:33:28] <ycon_> I see. So I'd attach "cardSwipedLeft" to line 126? http://plnkr.co/edit/7ScnGyy2eAmGwcJ7XZ2Z?p=preview

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[13:34:41] <ycon_> da_wunder: Or is that in scope of the postApiData() line 115

[13:36:29] <da_wunder> ycon_: cardSwiped($card) => cardSwiped(card)

[13:36:54] <da_wunder> ycon_: http://plnkr.co/edit/tIY3ibqhZXdI2t3VJK5B?p=preview

[13:37:32] <ycon_> da_wunder: Ah thx- that was just html changes?

[13:37:39] <da_wunder> nope

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[13:40:06] <ycon_> da_wunder: And that would simply post the results of the card, to that json URL by what you've edited? Or is there more?

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[13:40:37] <da_wunder> ycon_: i just added that swipe function to right place, add your post code there

[13:40:51] <da_wunder> don't know what you're posting and where, so cannot do that

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[13:42:52] <ycon_> da_wunder: just one string of data- the card's pk (in directive, it's "card.product_id"). Posted thorugh the API 0/1 to field called "likes"

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[13:43:57] <da_wunder> so $http.post('someurl' + card.product_id).then(function(result) { // handle success here }).catch(function(error) { // handle error here });

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[13:45:39] <ycon_> da_wunder: thanks but not wanting to post to the product_id's URL, I'm wanting to send the product_id to a set URL as json

[13:46:18] <da_wunder> so $http.post('someurl', yourjsonobjecthere).then(function(result) { // handle success here }).catch(function(error) { // handle error here });

[13:48:13] <ycon_> How do I tell the "yourjsonobjecthere" to be the HTML cardSwiped(card) & only its product_id field?

[13:48:47] <da_wunder> eg. var yourjsonobjecthere = {foo: card.product_id};

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[13:52:35] <ycon_> da_wunder: a first attempt- it close? http://dpaste.com/16VHN1N

[13:53:37] <da_wunder> so $http.post('http://test.com/analytic', {like: card.product_id}).then(function(result) { // handle success here }).catch(function(error) { // handle error here });

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[13:58:08] <ycon_> da_wunder: I dont follw what you mean by handle success- that would be "$http.post = data(data)?

[13:58:33] <ycon_> $http.post(data).success?

[13:58:51] <da_wunder> ycon_: you should read the docs

[13:59:02] <ycon_> beeen on code schoool all niight

[13:59:16] <ycon_> (which is great btw)

[14:00:03] <da_wunder> that .post is promise. and that .then(function(result) {...}) is run when that post request has been successfully sent and you have server response on that response variable

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[14:01:06] <da_wunder> ycon_: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/service/$http

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[14:02:11] <walid> sooo

[14:02:25] <walid> i got a json object with object.name , object.address

[14:02:41] <walid> is there a way to return the field name and not the value?

[14:02:44] <walid> the key name*

[14:03:10] <walid> i want to load the objects fields dynamicly and populate a form with both key and values from json

[14:03:19] <da_wunder> object.keys()

[14:05:08] <da_wunder> walid: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Object/keys

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[14:09:58] <walid> thanks

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[14:11:06] <ycon_> da_wunder: I have follow thos docs carefully, not having much success. What I am trying- http://dpaste.com/331ZRPQ

[14:11:57] <da_wunder> ycon_: are you doing two post queries for some reason?

[14:12:09] <da_wunder> and don't use success or error

[14:12:25] <da_wunder> that shows that you haven't read those docs carefully enough...

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[14:12:35] <ycon_> oh that + means I post it twice?

[14:12:53] <da_wunder> you have two .post request on that snippet

[14:12:56] <ycon_> That was an exampel frm stack overflow after reading docs

[14:13:33] <da_wunder> + there isn't analytic_data defined anywhere

[14:14:26] <ycon_> and the post was done in line2 already I guess

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[14:33:27] <jdo_dk> Best book to learn angular 1.4 for a noob ? Or should i go with angular 2 ?

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[14:49:07] <moop> !topic

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[14:53:40] <jdo_dk> !topic

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[15:03:08] <ycon_> Is ng cloak the best option to hide content (or show loading) before it loads?

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[15:06:45] <jdo_dk> ycon_: As i understood: ng-cloak can be used, if "content" should not show up in "html-source", normal show/hide i would use ng-show and ng-hide

[15:07:18] <da_wunder> or ng-if

[15:07:38] <ycon_> jdo_dk: soo that's for security? Ok. ng-if/show/hide. Any one better?

[15:07:58] <da_wunder> security?

[15:08:17] <da_wunder> those are in the dom, so there isn't any security about those

[15:08:47] <da_wunder> try to understand that all that html+js+css is public

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[15:11:00] <Unknown2505> sup

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[15:17:08] <ycon_> yo

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[15:45:17] <ycon_> Hi, I'm trying to create a button to mimic an action (Swiping). Not having luck. It's the script.js (line 40) here http://plnkr.co/edit/7ScnGyy2eAmGwcJ7XZ2Z?p=preview

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[15:53:44] <thedist> I'm trying to learn Angular, and jumping straight in to trying to work with an MEAN.js angular template. I need a little help. I'm using a menu service to create items in a navigation menu. They show up correctly, but other than the hard coded 'index' button in the menu, it doesn't actually change the url when clicked?

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[15:54:49] <thedist> if I go directly to the intended destination, the view is correctly rendered, the menu item is correctly set to active, and if I click on index that does render that view, but the menu item I created still doesn't change the url/view when clicked?

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[15:58:23] <ycon_> Hmm is ng hide the wrong thing to hide my images while they load? Would something with CSS & onLoad be more suitable?

[16:00:07] <ycon_> Oh wait- <div ng-hide='isLoading'></div>

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[16:11:31] <check> hi

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[16:23:06] <AssafTt> what is ng-cloak?

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[16:24:35] <ycon_> also curious to know- not sure what to use to hide images whilst loading...

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[16:29:00] <walid> hola

[16:29:10] <walid> how can i tell if a select box was selected?

[16:29:13] <walid> in material

[16:29:20] <walid> can't find it in the documentation

[16:29:47] <walid> join material-design

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[16:42:44] <ShatterStar> hi guys

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[16:43:15] <ycon_> hi

[16:43:25] <ShatterStar> a bit of a problem when i use the <ng-view /> directive in my html i get a circular reference error

[16:43:28] <ShatterStar> any ideas?

[16:44:55] <ShatterStar> er guys? anyone out there

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[16:59:27] <Elion> hi, i use the https://code.angularjs.org/2.0.0-beta.0/angular2.dev.js but it seems that HTTP is not in it, where can i get it ?

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[17:00:55] <Elion> ok never mind, the http is in another file

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[17:03:27] <ashgotti> If I have two controllers, one with a parameter and one for my front page, why do they both fire ont he front page?

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[18:04:13] <soee_> using ui-router, is it possible to set synamic state name in template ?

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[18:05:40] <rubyronin> soee_: should be

[18:05:51] <rubyronin> have you tried?

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[18:06:31] <soee_> yeah, cant make it work as i also want to pass some aprams

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[18:07:42] <soee_> oh it works now ;)

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[18:08:14] <soee_> state_{{ dynamicPart }}({param:value})

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[18:29:01] <peterbsmith> i have this ANNOYING basic issue

[18:29:30] <peterbsmith> controller A is in file A  and starts with angular.module('app.controllers', [])

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[18:29:44] <peterbsmith> controller B is in file B and starts with angular.module('app.controllers', [])

[18:30:07] <peterbsmith> one controller overrides the other when they're included

[18:30:41] <peterbsmith> i dont have this issue when i build with grunt, but im not using grunt in this situation

[18:31:33] <da_wunder> peterbsmith: if you have that definition in both files one of those will override existing one

[18:31:50] <peterbsmith> da_wunder: im at that realization

[18:32:00] <peterbsmith> da_wunder: whats the best practice here

[18:32:15] <da_wunder> just do once angular.module('somemodule', [])

[18:32:36] <peterbsmith> and then the other file just starts with .controller?

[18:33:02] <da_wunder> angular.module('somemodule').controller('FooController', ....

[18:33:21] <peterbsmith> thats fine for the first controller

[18:33:25] <peterbsmith> but what about the second

[18:33:29] <peterbsmith> do you know what i mean

[18:33:37] <da_wunder> actually no :D

[18:33:46] <zomg> peterbsmith: note that there's a difference between angular.module('foo') and angular.module('foo', [])

[18:33:49] <zomg> that's the key here

[18:33:57] <zomg> with one parameter, it will *get* a module

[18:33:58] <peterbsmith> ohh

[18:34:03] <zomg> with two parameters it *defines* a module

[18:34:15] <peterbsmith> zomg: i owe you a kiss

[18:34:25] <zomg> not sure if want but ok

[18:34:26] <zomg> :D

[18:34:35] <peterbsmith> zomg: you do im a very handsome guy

[18:34:38] <da_wunder> that was that i was saying... :D

[18:35:14] <peterbsmith> i owe you a hug

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[18:39:11] <peterbsmith> you know - if i could vent for a second instead of getting work done

[18:39:20] <peterbsmith> im a independent developer, self taught

[18:39:33] <peterbsmith> and i struggle so hard with basic shit that i know others have figured out

[18:39:44] <peterbsmith> yet i dont have a mentor to guide me

[18:39:51] <peterbsmith> so struggling is the only option

[18:39:54] <peterbsmith> i cant stand that

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[18:40:10] <zomg> everyone faces that, you just learn where to look and how to google better =)

[18:40:46] <da_wunder> struggling is basic stuff within programming

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[18:41:40] <zomg> is there any particular thing you have trouble with?

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[18:44:16] <peterbsmith> zomg: the biggest issue is consistency

[18:44:30] <zomg> consistency?

[18:44:37] <peterbsmith> zomg: making programming a regular thing

[18:44:49] <peterbsmith> zomg: like right now ill write code for 5 hours a day for a week

[18:45:13] <peterbsmith> zomg: then next week i lose momentum, dont do anything for 3 days, then on day 4 its like i gotta get the engine going again

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[18:47:37] <zomg> everyone needs a break now and then

[18:47:53] <peterbsmith> yeah

[18:48:11] <peterbsmith> im coming to terms with the possibility that im naturally a bad programmer

[18:48:39] <zomg> eh, I don't always do anything for days either and I've been doing this for like 15 years or something

[18:48:52] <zomg> Sometimes I just don't feel like it and instead watch movies the whole day or somethin

[18:48:55] <zomg> =)

[18:49:13] <zomg> nothing to do with skill I think

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[18:52:22] <peterbsmith> wow

[18:52:28] <peterbsmith> that hits the nail on the head lol

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[18:53:07] <zomg> it's easy to think that others are super productive all the time

[18:53:17] <zomg> but that's usually not the case =)

[18:53:36] <peterbsmith> thats true

[18:53:41] <peterbsmith> and exactly how im feeling

[18:53:49] <peterbsmith> also: overwhelmed

[18:53:50] <da_wunder> programmers are weird on that productivity

[18:54:02] <peterbsmith> im making an ionic app that has a lot of map stuff

[18:54:08] <da_wunder> regular hours 8-16 are not just working

[18:54:10] <zomg> funny because I sent an email to my mailing list just yesterday which talked a bit about it

[18:54:18] <peterbsmith> and its meant to be done in a couple week.... yet ive never done map stuff before

[18:54:25] <zomg> basically how I feel stressed at end of the year because it seems everyone does all these cool things

[18:54:28] <peterbsmith> zomg what mailing list? ill jump on that

[18:54:28] <zomg> and I don't

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[18:54:40] <zomg> you can subscribe here http://codeutopia.net/blog/h/subscribe

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[18:55:16] <da_wunder> but luckily is xmas holiday atm

[18:55:39] <peterbsmith> zomg consider me added

[18:55:47] <peterbsmith> yeah ive got 1 hr 5 minutes to go on this

[18:56:01] <da_wunder> 2015 i did 1950h work

[18:56:23] <peterbsmith> thats a full year man

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[18:56:43] <zomg> did you actually track that number?

[18:56:52] <peterbsmith> i do too

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[18:57:06] <da_wunder> our erp/crm shows those numbers

[18:57:15] <zomg> oh you work for one of those companies

[18:57:16] <zomg> =)

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[18:57:35] <peterbsmith> are you independent zomg

[18:57:50] <da_wunder> 8.3years at this work now :D

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[18:58:03] <da_wunder> another number from erp/crm

[18:58:08] <zomg> I work with a startup currently

[18:58:18] <zomg> but have some side projects

[18:58:18] <peterbsmith> contractor?

[18:58:37] <zomg> well I was brought in as one but they made me the CTO and now I own a piece of the company so I guess not anymore

[18:58:39] <zomg> lol

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[18:58:46] <peterbsmith> hahahaha

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[19:00:55] <zomg> oh by the way this is the email I sent yesterday where I talked about being stressed http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=f6eea4b73906ca6848de34f9e&id=5e0abfc7b8

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[19:01:07] <zomg> took me a while to find it from mailchimp because I had no idea where the share button for it was

[19:01:10] <zomg> :P

[19:01:31] <zomg> I usually send stuff about javascript or related, but sometimes other random things like this too

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[19:03:17] <da_wunder> hmm in year 2015 i was sick 15h

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[19:03:50] <da_wunder> and my billablity rate was 90.7%

[19:04:26] <zomg> I probably have terrible statistics on all that

[19:04:26] <zomg> :D

[19:04:34] <zomg> But I get stuff done which is what matters

[19:04:42] <da_wunder> you all should track those numbers

[19:05:18] <da_wunder> that doesn't matter if you get stuff done, but it won't cover your labor cost

[19:05:31] <da_wunder> that kind of business won't last long

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[19:06:45] <zomg> when you're paid by month it's irrelevant =)

[19:07:04] <da_wunder> huoh... not it's not

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[19:07:21] <peterbsmith> nice post zomg

[19:07:26] <zomg> well obviously if you work more hours than you need to for the monthly rate

[19:07:28] <zomg> then sure

[19:07:36] <zomg> but in my case I probably work less

[19:07:36] <zomg> :D

[19:07:48] <peterbsmith> youve got to be productive to stay employed

[19:08:02] <peterbsmith> * to get employed

[19:08:10] <peterbsmith> then *stay productive to *stay employed

[19:08:25] <da_wunder> yep

[19:08:38] <da_wunder> and those are the numbers that people track

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[19:09:58] <zomg> yes but if you get shit done then you're productive, regardless of whether you work 7.5 hours a day with a 30 minute lunch break

[19:10:17] <zomg> or if you work 4 hours today, 8 hours tomorrow and 0 hours the next

[19:10:17] <zomg> :D

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[19:11:04] <peterbsmith> im the second type, 4 today, 8 tomorrow, and 0 the next

[19:11:07] <peterbsmith> and I cant stand that

[19:11:12] <peterbsmith> i want so badly to be 8 a day

[19:11:28] <zomg> heh

[19:11:37] <da_wunder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u28UyS9lIcg

[19:12:10] <da_wunder> that shows how much is the cost of little time saving

[19:12:42] <zomg> peterbsmith: it's probably a bit difficult but if you really want to get there, you need to find why you're NOT getting there

[19:13:04] <zomg> ie. if you are distracted by twitter or whatever and then you get lost browsing imgur for an hour

[19:13:11] <peterbsmith> why im not getting there is years of emotional  turmoil and stress

[19:13:53] <peterbsmith> the twitter distractions and imgur you just mentioned are part of it certainly

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[19:15:13] <zomg> yeah

[19:15:36] <zomg> once you figure out why you're not getting there then you need to start finding ways to fix that :)

[19:15:37] <peterbsmith> da_wunder: is ValueFrame your employer?

[19:15:40] <zomg> obviously easier said than done

[19:15:50] <da_wunder> peterbsmith: nope

[19:15:53] <zomg> but I don't think there are really any silver bullets to it

[19:16:01] <peterbsmith> youre right zomg

[19:16:05] <peterbsmith> and a lot of it is luck

[19:16:15] <da_wunder> peterbsmith: that is the crm/erp that our company uses

[19:16:24] <peterbsmith> oh lol and you like it

[19:16:25] <da_wunder> although i dev valueframe :D

[19:16:26] <peterbsmith> thats cool

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[19:22:06] <ekarlso> so when using webpack with scss does one require("foo.css") inside a .js file ?

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[20:51:15] <villev> with angular 1, it was quite convenient to bundle the whole angular in a third party lib.js (and accessible through global 'angular' name). Will similar approact work with ng2 as well?

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[20:51:58] <villev> since we will have stuff like import {Http} from "angular2/http"; going on there, i.e. stuff needs to be "importable"

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[20:52:49] <villev> can you get those imports working by just having .d.ts files in the right place, without recompiling the whole angular source tree while building?

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[21:06:16] <villev> actually, it seems you can just use the es5 approach (and not import ng parts separately, but use ng.Component etc) http://blog.thoughtram.io/angular/2015/05/09/writing-angular-2-code-in-es5.html

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[21:06:48] <ngbot> [angular.js] lgalfaso pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vEkGQ

[21:06:48] <ngbot> angular.js/master 99d601a Shahar Talmi: fix(Module): allow passing template/templateUrl in array notation...

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[21:21:38] <Kwoth> Hello, i want to add "enterance" animation to the element i am adding to a list with angular2. I was looking for tutorials but couldn't find any.

[21:22:15] <Kwoth> Lets say i have a list of todos, when i add new one i want it to fade in from the top

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[22:19:34] <Westen> map

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[22:30:00] <Kwoth> map?

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[22:36:02] <ringzer0> I have a <submenu> directive in my project.  It is listening for $rootScope.$on('$stateChangeSuccess',fn factory($toState){ switch($toState.name){ case: 'app.estab.details'; templateUrl = 'templates/details-submenu.html; break; return { templateUrl:templateUrl };

[22:36:22] <ringzer0> do I have to call a $compile.refresh() or something?

[22:36:33] <ringzer0> because my HTML isn't changing.  the listener is working tho.

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[22:38:12] <ringzer0> Any htoughts would be super helpful...

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[22:39:55] <ngbot> [angular.js] Narretz pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vEk6u

[22:39:56] <ngbot> angular.js/master 798fb18 Martin Staffa: docs(Module): clarify that component's template(Url) fn is injectable...

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[22:42:54] <wafflejock> ringzer0: not clear what you're expecting that to do returning an object from the stateChangeSuccess handler shouldn't really do anything as far as I know

[22:43:27] <ringzer0> wafflejock: so, 'returning it' doesn't 'change it' is what you are saying?

[22:43:32] <wafflejock> yah

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[22:43:54] <ringzer0> wafflejock: what should I inject into my directive that has a method which supports changing the content post-render?

[22:43:55] <wafflejock> ringzer0: you could load some scope property with the path to a file and use ng-include to have that loaded in the view

[22:44:15] <ringzer0> I think I understand

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[22:44:35] <wafflejock> ringzer0: like you said too you could $http.get the new template then $compile and append it but ng-include will basically handle that stuff for you too

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[22:45:16] <ringzer0> I'm smart, but I'm still fairly new :) - I will rely on ng-include's built in functionality if I know it exists.

[22:45:45] <ringzer0> so ... I could store the submenu template on a 'data' property in the child states, right?

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[22:46:46] <ringzer0> then retun '<div ng-include="'.$toState.data.submenuTemplate.'"></div>'; right?

[22:47:24] <ringzer0> can a directive return a $q (a differred promise) that has to wait till the stateChange?

[22:47:42] <ringzer0> I'm trying to figure out 'how' still.

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[22:48:05] <wafflejock> ringzer0: well what's the goal here overall

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[22:49:10] <wafflejock> ringzer0: feel like maybe just having child states might make more sense, if you do use ng-include you'd want that <div ng-include="something"></div> in the directive's template then would set scope.something = $state.current.data.submenuTemplate, or something along those lines

[22:50:01] <ringzer0> wafflejock: Can I compile what you are saying, then show you my app.js and directives.js ?

[22:50:13] <wafflejock> !help

[22:50:14] <angularjs_bot> AngularJS Plunker template http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS

[22:50:29] <ringzer0> Thank you.

[22:50:32] <wafflejock> ringzer0: if you can minimally reproduce there and drops some comments about what you want to have happen that helps

[22:50:33] <wafflejock> np

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[22:54:02] <ringzer0> wafflejock: I am compiling everything.

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[22:54:49] <wafflejock> ringzer0: k ideally just put up enough code to show the problem though don't need to have the full app just enough pieces to show it running

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[23:25:34] <dodobrain> wafflejock, you around?

[23:25:58] <wafflejock> dodobrain: yup what's up?

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[23:27:44] <dodobrain> "$watch instruct angular to review, each cycle, the value of the variable on the scope and call your code when changes happen.$watch is like polling while {{}} is triggering an event."  is what i got told in a review for a commit i checked in

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[23:29:28] <dodobrain> essentially, it looks like the person doesn;t want me to use a watch. the situation: in a threadview (managed by a threadcontroller), a thread is retrieved using $http.get. a <user> directive is used within the threadview template. I changed the user directive to use a watch

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[23:30:43] <dodobrain> wafflejock, essentially this http://plnkr.co/edit/XypaDf36Zjtv3Y6NzbnK?p=preview  except the thread object is *not* available when the first <dh-user> directive is encountered

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[23:35:58] <ycon_> hi all, Im still stuck on trying to do an $http post when an action occurs (cardSwipe). Been stuck for days- can anyone give me direction? In script.js http://plnkr.co/edit/7ScnGyy2eAmGwcJ7XZ2Z?p=preview

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[23:37:57] <wafflejock> dodobrain: well just reading that comment back it doesn't really make sense https://github.com/angular/angular.js/blob/master/src/ng/interpolate.js#L326 <-- that creates a watchgroup on the collection of parse functions it got from reading the text between the interpolation symbols

[23:38:18] <wafflejock> dodobrain: "$watch is like polling while {{}} is triggering an event." this doesn't seem to be true in my understanding of this

[23:38:32] <dodobrain> wafflejock, if you've got a minute, this is the real problem. i was tackling: http://plnkr.co/edit/ktvFFRk9CbWTHWiHbYx1?p=preview

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[23:38:52] <dodobrain> i have added a 'foo' button which when pressed actually sets up the thread object

[23:39:16] <dodobrain> you can see that clicking on it, the user directive is working fine *except* in the first case

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[23:43:01] <wafflejock> dodobrain: sorry not following what's wrong here can you be more specific... also actually need to run out for like 40 min to an hour here

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[23:43:58] <dodobrain> wafflejock, working version because the thread object is *ready*  before any <dh-user> directive is encountered   http://plnkr.co/edit/XypaDf36Zjtv3Y6NzbnK?p=preview

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[23:44:39] <dodobrain> same plnkr but simulating retrieval of thread from server (clicking on 'foo' button): http://plnkr.co/edit/XypaDf36Zjtv3Y6NzbnK?p=preview

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[23:45:10] <ZetaTwo> Hello! If I have a component with an input. Is it possible to create an observable from this input? how?

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[23:45:17] <dodobrain> i'm wondering why in the second version, the "asked by" user directive is rendered as undefined@...

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[23:46:24] <ZetaTwo> In Angular2 that is

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[23:49:00] <wafflejock> dodobrain: gotcha

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[23:49:32] <wafflejock> dodobrain: yeah so issue seems to be the dh-user is on the page and not in the ng-repeat when the thread is not yet defined then later when it is defined there's nothing in the directive watching it to get updates

[23:49:51] <wafflejock> dodobrain: having a watch in the directive is the way to deal with that though and the statement about using {{}} somehow being better than a watch is just wrong

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[23:50:37] <wafflejock> dodobrain: in the case of the ones in the ng-repeat they aren't going to be stamped out until after the thread has a value

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[23:51:51] <dodobrain> ok, thanks. i just wanted to confirm it

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[23:52:03] <wafflejock> dodobrain: if you want to avoid the $watch I suppose a attr.$observe should work too

[23:52:07] <wafflejock> maybe

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[23:52:34] <dodobrain> and in my mind using {{}} is simply an angular shortcut to use a watch internally

[23:52:37] <wafflejock> might need {{}} for the attribute then though in which case you have the watch back

[23:52:38] <dodobrain> is that somewhat correct?

[23:52:42] <wafflejock> basically

[23:52:57] <dodobrain> right.. so the review i got back is just 'lol' :p

[23:53:06] <wafflejock> dodobrain: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/blob/master/src/ng/interpolate.js#L234 can gloss over the code here and see generally what's going on

[23:53:25] <gho5t> you can always use a one time binding

[23:53:36] <gho5t> if it fits your scenario of course

[23:53:45] <dodobrain> gho5t, even 2 way binding is useless!

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[23:54:09] <gho5t> never heard anyone refer to it as useless

[23:54:12] <dodobrain> the object is undefined when the directive is encountered by angular

[23:54:18] <gho5t> and I'm not referring to the direction

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[23:54:35] <dodobrain> gho5t, perhaps you want to check the plunks i pasted before speaking based on assumptions?

[23:54:38] <gho5t> a one time binding only creates the one watch initially and then delete is from the watch list

[23:54:55] <dodobrain> yes, that will most certainly be useless

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[23:55:40] <gho5t> if it's undefined initially then you need to use a watch

[23:55:43] <wafflejock> dodobrain: it's actually good advice if you only need the display to update the first time data is fetched then one-time data binding can greatly reduce the amount of watchers on a page and therefore the processing overhead every time there's a digest

[23:56:08] <wafflejock> bbiab though

[23:56:19] <dodobrain> jup, i understand that. thanks guys

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