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[00:31:59] <ctanga> BahamutWC: https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router/blob/master/src/common.js#L15

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[00:34:11] <Grokling> ctanga! Just the man I need to talk to. I have some nested states with resolves. Can I expect the outer state to wait on completion of it's resolve map before the inner state kicks off it's resolves?

[00:34:21] <ctanga> Grokling: yep

[00:34:22] <Grokling> promises in the resolves.

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[00:34:47] <ctanga> in 0.2.x all the resolves get resolved before the transition actually starts running

[00:35:15] <Grokling> Hmm. I have an outer which checks authentication. It's rejecting at the moment(as it should), but my inner resolve is firing off an api request anyway, which it shouldn't..

[00:35:18] <ctanga> but it’s all jumbled up if there aren’t actual dependencies

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[00:35:57] <ctanga> if you want the nested resolve to wait for the outer resolve, inject its name into the nested state’s resolve

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[00:37:12] <Grokling> So the nesting of the states is not sufficient?

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[00:39:21] <ctanga> the resolves happen for the entire transition, and is as eager as possible

[00:39:33] <ctanga> so it rolls up all the resolves it needs to process, and says “go for it”

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[00:39:54] <ctanga> they’ll all happen simultaneously, unless one depends on something else that is not yet ready

[00:40:47] <Grokling> Right. So consider it parallel. Thanks for clarifying that. How do I go about 'injecting it's name' into the nested state's resolve?

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[00:40:49] <ctanga> in 1.0 the resolves systemis way more flexible

[00:41:05] <ctanga> resolve: { nestedResolve: function(parentResolve) { } }

[00:42:13] <Grokling> The key is the map index from the combined app-wide collection of 'resolve' maps? So I should be namespacing them a bit?

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[00:43:20] <Grokling> AND, that would allow me to chain resolves with an ability to refer to the result of an earlier resolve?

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[00:45:28] <peterp> wafflej0ck_ BahamutWC - it worked! Thank you for the help. I didn't realize I could work it that easily by just setting the units to each other

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[00:45:42] <peterp> err in this case, vars to each other. Will have to walk through the source and see how ng does that

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[00:49:20] <ctanga> Grokling: I wouldn’t go overboard on namespacing.. but yes, when you inject a resolve into a resolve, you get the resulting value of it

[00:49:22] <ctanga> gotta go, good luck

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[00:49:28] <Grokling> ctanga: This code tells me that it has an unknown provider 'identity' http://pastebin.com/Ri9uVXVe

[00:49:44] <Grokling> Not yet! Please..

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[01:01:51] <Grokling> Mmm. So it doesn't quite work like I thought. It's a pain, but I can work around it.

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[01:07:17] <burzum> is there any known bug that when using ng-if the text of the element doesnt shop up?

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[01:07:52] <burzum> ive tried span, p and div - the text doesnt show up. if i try a h1 it works. ive tried to disable all styles in the inspector as well for the element no success.

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[01:09:50] <nairys> are you passing in a function for the expression?

[01:10:07] <nairys> or just evaluating a scope object?

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[01:10:38] <beckyconning_> burzum: posting code using the link in the topic will get your question answered faster : )

[01:11:15] <burzum> its not angular, happens in chrome and FF to me but there is nothing that would hide the text inside the element, pretty strange behavior

[01:12:19] <Grokling> burzum: You haven't somehow managed to put white text on a white background? (that happened to someone yesterday)

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[01:12:25] <nairys> it's not angular? as in you don't expect the problem to be with angular? or as in you're not using angular?

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[01:12:42] <burzum> Grokling, no its a red gradiant with a white color (error msg)

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[01:13:01] <burzum> nairys, i just figured out it happens without using an ng- directive on that element as well

[01:13:08] <burzum> its inside a modal, using angular ui

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[01:14:02] <nairys> i'm assuming your modal is in another controller then

[01:14:29] <nairys> that means your modal has a different scope.

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[01:14:51] <nairys> if you have a scope object from the main page, your modal won't have access to it

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[01:15:21] <dnull> how can i display var in html: http://plnkr.co/edit/flwTNAekTt8oT7mCoqUG?p=catalogue

[01:16:43] <burzum> nairys no, the ng-if works perfect, it shows the div / p but the text inside the element, which is not coming from angular, its inside the html is not shown.  I dont think this is an angular issue.

[01:17:10] <nairys> burzum a plunkr would be helpful then if you really want to get help

[01:17:32] <nairys> dnull, you need a controller if you want to use $scope

[01:17:41] <BackEndCoder> Hippo, SEE

[01:17:53] <burzum> I'll try to fix it tomorrow and then try to do a plunker. its always time consuming to set these js things up on plunker imho :/

[01:17:54] <Hippo> Haha

[01:17:57] <Hippo> <3

[01:18:07] <BackEndCoder> i'm making an angular app now accually

[01:18:11] <dnull> nairys so i cant pass values in factory and display as a part of htmk

[01:18:14] <BackEndCoder> well trying too

[01:18:15] <dnull> *html

[01:18:26] <nairys> dnull, you can but you need to use a controller and inject the factory into the controller

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[01:18:59] <dnull> nairys I have controller alrady, let me put that in pluker

[01:20:03] <dnull> nairys http://plnkr.co/edit/flwTNAekTt8oT7mCoqUG?p=catalogue

[01:20:08] <dnull> I have just updated

[01:21:53] <nairys> dnull, https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngBindHtml

[01:23:14] <dnull> nairys I also have that working, How can i pass variable value is my issue

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[01:25:25] <nairys> dnull, i don't see you using that directive anywhere

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[01:26:02] <nairys> ok so you're saying you're having an issue returning the {{bankrupt_flag}} variable within the html?

[01:26:48] <dnull> nairys Yes

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[01:29:48] <nairys> does it just say {{bankrupt_flag}} on the webpage?

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[01:30:58] <dnull> nairys Yes

[01:31:03] <vdiaz> Hello. anyone know how to dynamically set input to required in directive (I know there is the required attr). JS fiddle here: http://jsfiddle.net/hm2b771z/

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[01:32:22] <BahamutWC> vdiaz: use ng-required

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[01:32:47] <BahamutWC> ng-required and ng-model

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[01:33:03] <vdiaz> @BahamutWC I know aout ng-required. But this wont suffice for me. getting a config from DB and have many forms

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[01:34:26] <BahamutWC> you can dynamically generate form elements with angular

[01:34:28] <Grokling> ng-required="inputModel.required"

[01:34:38] <BahamutWC> http://www.yearofmoo.com/2014/09/taming-forms-in-angularjs-1-3.html

[01:34:49] <oniijin> +1 on that article

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[01:35:13] <nairys> dnull i think $compile is what you are looking for. i don't have a lot of experience with it so i wouldn't be able to help very much

[01:35:19] <nairys> maybe someone else here can help

[01:35:34] <wafflej0ck_> dnull: http://plnkr.co/edit/OafoArJNuYELPQ4GlGNh?p=preview

[01:35:42] <dnull> nairys np Thanks for you help

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[01:36:47] <Grokling> wafflej0ck_: Turns out that you can inject resolves into each other. But only within the one state it seems.

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[01:37:36] <wafflej0ck_> Grokling: yeah sort of saw you speaking with ctanga there figured really he'd know better personally I mostly have stayed away from resolves so I'm not too familiar with all the details anyhow but good to know

[01:37:38] <BahamutWC> also for those curious, Matias gave a talk on forums with Angular a week ago here in Mountain View: http://slides.yearofmoo.com/ng-mtv-meetup-nov2014/index.html#/0/0/

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[01:37:47] <dnull> wafflej0ck_  Thanks you :)

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[01:37:53] <wafflej0ck_> dnull: np

[01:37:54] <dnull> *Thank

[01:38:07] <wafflej0ck_> nairys: yeah it's $interpolate for this case $compile you want for directives

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[01:38:29] <BahamutWC> forms* not forums

[01:38:32] <nairys> thanks wafflej0ck_ - i learned something today!

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[01:38:55] <Grokling> wafflej0ck_: Yeah, it didn't really work out how I'd hoped. So I ended up making my own promise chain inside the resolve for the child state. It's uglier than it needs to be, but it works.

[01:38:57] <vdiaz> BehamutWC, Grokling - I want to pull the config inside the directive and set ng-required within the directive

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[01:39:24] <BahamutWC> vdiaz: you could create a directive wrapper that has the input element you want as a template with the ng-required and ng-model attributes

[01:40:00] <BahamutWC> check out that yearofmoo article I linked, it seems to address the things you're trying to do

[01:40:11] <vdiaz> reviewing now.. thx

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[01:40:54] <BahamutWC> I should also note, yearofmoo.com is the blog of one of the Angular core team members

[01:41:11] <wafflej0ck_> yah brian ford right?

[01:41:19] <BahamutWC> Matias

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[01:41:25] <wafflej0ck_> oh is it?

[01:41:32] <wafflej0ck_> hmm got them mixed up I guess

[01:41:43] <BahamutWC> who else would write about ngAnimate stuff :P

[01:41:50] <wafflej0ck_> right make sense

[01:42:27] <wafflej0ck_> I used his post on bower components was super helpful, a few other ones too

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[01:45:03] <wafflej0ck_> haven't really dug into $animate but I've made use of ngAnimate for some basic CSS driven animations, still have to try that like 10 times every time I give it a go though and takes lots of debugging would be good to get a solid grasp on that

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[01:48:07] <beckyconning_> is there an angular util for indexof with object value equality rather?

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[01:48:16] <beckyconning_> i.e. not object reference equality

[01:48:26] <beckyconning_> or however you say it : P

[01:48:42] <Grokling> angular.equals

[01:48:46] <beckyconning_> thanks!

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[01:49:10] <Grokling> or was it .equal? You'll find it either way I suspect!

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[01:52:24] <beckyconning_> Grokling: its equals but not quite what i was looking for! i'll stick to using filters and then getting the indexOf after. ty!

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[01:52:58] <Grokling> beckyconning_: Maybe array.find() is closer to what you need?

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[01:53:15] <beckyconning_> that sounds promising!

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[01:53:56] <Grokling> Works the same as a filter, only returns the first match and stops.

[01:54:27] <beckyconning_> Grokling: ah! its Array.prototype.findIndex : )

[01:54:29] <beckyconning_> thanks!

[01:55:11] <Grokling> np. Lots of tricks out there waiting to be discovered.

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[01:57:28] <wafflej0ck_> beckyconning_: not really supported anywhere it looks like https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Array/findIndex

[01:57:34] <beckyconning_> ah its too out there for now.

[01:57:37] <wafflej0ck_> beckyconning_: I typically use lodash for that kind of thing

[01:57:39] <beckyconning_> wafflej0ck_: yeah

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[01:59:23] <beckyconning_> filter then indexOf seems to work though so i'll stick with that

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[02:00:40] <Grokling> beckyconning_: Are you trying to find one matching object from an array of objects?

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[02:00:54] <beckyconning_> need the index

[02:01:01] <beckyconning_> for bad bad bad ionic services

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[02:01:13] <BahamutWC> what are you doing with Ionic?

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[02:01:27] <beckyconning_> http://ionicframework.com/docs/api/service/$ionicActionSheet/

[02:01:38] <BahamutWC> oh that one lol

[02:02:16] <beckyconning_> testing the function that produces the `buttonClicked` handler omg

[02:02:20] <BahamutWC> what we do is have an object that has the index of the choice on it :(

[02:02:30] <BahamutWC> an array of objects*

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[02:03:59] <beckyconning_> you would have thought it would be as simple as `buttons: [ { text: x, buttonClicked: f }, { text: y, buttonClicked: g } ]`...

[02:04:21] <BahamutWC> a lot of things are not simple with Ionic

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[02:04:39] <BahamutWC> we're trying our next app with Angular Material as a result of dissatisfaction

[02:04:54] <beckyconning_> i know this from having to patch it to have a feature that the client thought was in it...

[02:05:10] <BahamutWC> we forked Ionic too :(

[02:05:18] <Lewix> this keyword vs $scope - what do you prefer

[02:05:32] <BahamutWC> the code may be open source, but they seem to ignore contributions from the community

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[02:05:38] <Lewix> $scope separate concerns, the this keyword would put the model in the controller instance

[02:05:42] <beckyconning_> https://github.com/driftyco/ionic/pull/2579/files

[02:06:00] <Grokling> $scope is always what it says. 'this' means different things in different places.

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[02:06:21] <Lewix> Grokling: that's not what i asked =)

[02:06:23] <Lewix> but thanks

[02:07:19] <Grokling> yw. Only mentioned it because disambiguation is high on my list of priorities at the moment, so I prefer $scope for exactly that reason.

[02:07:20] <BahamutWC> beckyconning_: I have two PRs open that are over a month old myself

[02:07:33] <BahamutWC> and they keep merge conflicting them repeatedly without even commenting

[02:07:42] <BahamutWC> one of them fixes a real issue with the garbage collection

[02:07:47] <beckyconning_> BahamutWC: its a shame! they're gonna try and push their saas full stack stuff

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[02:08:03] <beckyconning_> BahamutWC: but they could have made loads off selling support for ionic if they supported it properly

[02:08:08] <beckyconning_> imho

[02:08:14] <beckyconning_> at 1 in the morning

[02:08:15] <BahamutWC> yup

[02:08:17] <Lewix> Grokling: angular 2.0 got rid of $scope

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[02:08:36] <Grokling> Sheesh.. past tense already, and it's not even out yet.

[02:08:36] <Lewix> Grokling: I was thinking that its not MVVM anymore

[02:08:37] <BahamutWC> I think they are angling their product more for designers who want to rapidly prototype with not completely awful code

[02:09:40] <Lewix> Grokling: it's out in google labs -

[02:09:43] <beckyconning_> the thing is its great if you only use it for what its meant to do

[02:09:43] <Lewix> =)

[02:10:00] <BahamutWC> but angular devs are anything but typical :)

[02:10:04] <beckyconning_> yeah : P

[02:10:22] <beckyconning_> also the designs i am working to (which are great) have very little to do with ionic

[02:10:25] <BahamutWC> this is one issue that bit me hard: https://github.com/driftyco/ionic/issues/2471

[02:10:30] <Lewix> i mean if they get rid of scope where the separation of concerns

[02:10:42] <Lewix> where is* / I wonder

[02:10:52] <BahamutWC> I even pointed to where in the code is the issue

[02:10:58] <beckyconning_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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[02:11:34] <beckyconning_> BahamutWC: ouch.

[02:11:39] <BahamutWC> oh hey that's right they deprecated the viewService heh

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[02:12:38] <BahamutWC> also I have an awful hack to hide tabs but that has to inherit from the view with tabs due to how opinionated Ionic is

[02:12:58] <BahamutWC> <ion-tab class="ng-hide"><ion-nav-view name="foo-tab"></ion-nav-view></ion-tab>

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[02:14:26] <BahamutWC> if the DOM isn't structured carefully, you can also run into scroll issues in the desktop

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[02:14:48] <BahamutWC> and some of the Ionic directives are heavily tied to the ionScroll directive, which magically appears from ion-content

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[02:15:27] <TheAceOfHearts> wow, I just looked at the initial commit for git, it was literally under 1000 LOC

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[02:15:49] <BahamutWC> did they use git to commit for git?

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[02:16:57] <BahamutWC> oh, it's one of the top posts on HN

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[02:20:23] <wsmoak> anyone doing GeoJSON with Angular?

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[02:20:46] <wsmoak> I tried <input type="text" ng-model="ctrl.item.location.coordinates[0]" />  (and another with [1])

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[02:21:43] <wsmoak> and got location: { coordinates: { 0: 3.2, 1: 5.0 }  when I need coordinates as an array

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[02:23:22] <ctanga> Grokling: i see a pastebin you posted, but it’s gone

[02:23:55] <ctanga> Grokling: you can inject any parent state’s resolve into any child state’s resolve

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[02:24:15] <Grokling> ctanga: Yeah, I didn't get it working in the end - I needed to inject resolves into a different state, and it wouldn't work for me.

[02:24:34] <ctanga> hmm it should work

[02:24:45] <ctanga> what version of uirouter?

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[02:25:01] <ctanga> there was a bug before 0.2.11 i think

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[02:25:25] <Grokling> here it is again: http://pastebin.com/J1Wkc8pG

[02:25:34] <BahamutWC> you're a ui-router encyclopedia :)

[02:25:49] <Grokling> I'm on 0.2.10, so possibly should look at an update!

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[02:27:27] <Grokling> I'd been hoping that the parent state resolves would happen first all by themselves (because that would make sense), then I'd know that any child states would necessarily have tested true for authentication without me having to test it again for each one.

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[02:28:19] <ctanga> Grokling: current ui-router is very eager about resolves executing.  ui-router 1.0 will have 3 options: “eager”, “lazy”, “just-in-time”

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[02:28:38] <ctanga> Grokling:  you are expecting the “lazy” mode, but ui-router implements “eager” mode currently

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[02:29:07] <Grokling> right. So I need to be un-lazy to work around the eagerness ;-)

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[02:29:17] <beckyconning_> before this project i was working on an frp "realtime" database service thing so i think after this project i'll be moving away from angular and towards mixing that library with kefir js and react js and browserify instead of angular js. but then it might drag me back in again! it has lots to offer.

[02:29:35] <pontiki> my first angular app: http://blog.tamouse.org/move.com-coding-challenge-ng-002/#/view1

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[02:31:40] <ctanga> Grokling: here’s the issue fixed in 0.2.11 https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router/issues/702

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[02:32:33] <ctanga> Grokling: although your pastebin looks like it would work, since you’re trying to access the resolve from a direct parent state

[02:32:36] <BahamutWC> beckyconning_: I've been thinking of Polymer myself instead of React

[02:32:39] <wafflej0ck_> pontiki: congrats!

[02:32:50] <ctanga> BahamutWC: interesting.  why for?

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[02:33:10] <BahamutWC> ctanga: for a project down the line, maybe one outside work

[02:33:22] <Grokling> ctanga: I tried it in a plunker which uses //angular-ui.github.io/ui-router/release/angular-ui-router.js and it still doesn't give me any love.

[02:33:22] <beckyconning_> BahamutWC: polymer looks nice and i love the way they are sensible web components but i'm not 100% sure how to fit it into frp patterns

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[02:33:49] <BahamutWC> I'm sort of waiting for Angular 2.0 before going into FRP patterns

[02:33:59] <Grokling> ctanga: http://plnkr.co/edit/09CDtp?p=preview

[02:34:01] <ctanga> Grokling:  hold a sec, I’ll post a p plunk

[02:34:02] <BahamutWC> O.o seems to be the way to go

[02:34:47] <BahamutWC> in that sense, Angular was the framework to bring that pattern to the popularity with $watch, but instead is changing to use native JS for that behavior

[02:35:45] <BahamutWC> React seems to overlap with Web Components quite heavily but in an awkward fashion

[02:36:01] <BahamutWC> I sense similar breaking changes on the horizon for React

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[02:37:15] <BahamutWC> this is a dangerous time for frontend development

[02:37:39] <BahamutWC> things are moving very fast, and the goal of code reusability may be fractured by the fast coming changes of ES6 and web components

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[02:38:59] <BahamutWC> with the irony that they're supposed to foster reusability and ease of developing with

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[02:39:49] <s3shs> They'll foster all the good stuff after the transition.

[02:39:51] <s3shs> :-)

[02:39:55] <BahamutWC> true

[02:39:59] <s3shs> (To ES6)

[02:40:04] <BahamutWC> spent some time with Polymer again this morning

[02:40:18] <BahamutWC> found a Chrome bug with shadow dom

[02:40:19] <s3shs> How do you like it?

[02:40:47] <BahamutWC> Polymer has a quite different feel to it

[02:40:49] <s3shs> I gotta say, shadowdom sounds like it's gonna be a can of worms.

[02:40:59] <BahamutWC> I think React might be the closest thing to web components out there atm

[02:41:00] <s3shs> "everything's a directive"

[02:41:15] <dylan9o4> hey guys, I'm new to angular, I have a test app based on the one provided in the ajs website tut, and I had a question about how the data is synced and what I can do to fix what appears to be a problem im running into on the detail template page in my code

[02:41:31] <BahamutWC> well, I think how angular is going to handle is is each directive will register a new shadow dom element on the fly

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[02:41:51] <beckyconning_> BahamutWC: i mean there isn't really anything to React so i can see it being easy to swap it out for other stuff

[02:42:02] <dylan9o4> here is my page, http://phenoral.com/ang/env2/#/phones

[02:42:06] <BahamutWC> beckyconning_: well, it's the whole view layer

[02:42:20] <dylan9o4> and I'm running into an issue when choosing a phone

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[02:42:43] <BahamutWC> but certain things in its design already conflicts with web components, such as camelcased element names

[02:42:51] <s3shs> React looks like jquery.

[02:42:54] <s3shs> (Sort of.)

[02:43:06] <ctanga> Grokling: http://plnkr.co/edit/sm3rmCb65gmnGAz9RcA2?p=preview

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[02:43:27] <beckyconning_> i might just use underscore templates i have no idea what i'm doing after this lol

[02:43:31] <BahamutWC> haha

[02:43:43] <BahamutWC> I want to use Polymer bad for a static page project

[02:43:54] <BahamutWC> seems like the perfect thing to use for something simple

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[02:44:40] <BahamutWC> I can see why people are liking using React, although I think React isn't as much of a joy when projects get more complex

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[02:45:00] <BahamutWC> having to choose and piece together libraries kind of sucks

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[02:45:14] <Grokling> Thanks ctanga. I'll climb all through that later tonight and see if I can get it sorted.

[02:45:15] <ctanga> Grokling: the plunk you posted has a typo it tries to inject ‘foos’ into ‘FooRootController’ but it should be ‘Foos’

[02:46:01] <Grokling> ctanga: It was right.. but I changed 'foos' to 'freckles'. Your one works, so I'll run with that.

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[02:46:56] <beckyconning_> anyway i'm gonna get back to work lol.

[02:47:08] <BahamutWC> gl

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[02:47:57] <dsdeiz> hey all any suggestion on how i can "refresh" a directive on button click?

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[02:57:45] <abosama> Salam everyone <3

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[03:01:44] <dsdeiz> any suggestions on how i can "refresh" a directive's template when a button is clicked? and also call the controller as well..

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[03:03:00] <abosama> Here is great resource guys: https://thinkster.io/

[03:03:09] <abosama> also this: https://egghead.io/

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[03:04:03] <dylan9o4> is there somewhere better than this to go for help? this seems like a more conversational channel..

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[03:12:13] <abosama> Ya welcome everybody

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[03:17:23] <TheAceOfHearts> dylan9o4: nope lol

[03:17:33] <TheAceOfHearts> but that's just IRC

[03:17:41] <TheAceOfHearts> you could try the mailing list

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[03:18:01] <dylan9o4> lol yeahh

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[03:18:21] <TheAceOfHearts> but like, keep in mind that people here that are helping others out are doing it in their free time

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[03:41:14] <FortuneDays> Is there a yeoman angular generator for feature sorting instead of type sorting?

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[03:44:34] <sacho> dylan9o4, you never asked a question

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[03:47:59] <dylan9o4> sacho: you're right, its just a special character encoding in a json in an environment and how to handle them

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[03:49:48] <dylan9o4> I'm using firebase but it is angularfire and #firebase is pretty sparse

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[03:51:38] <dylan9o4> like ™

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[04:10:20] <beckyconning_> does anyone have any idea why this spy isn't being called? http://plnkr.co/edit/t4NTTmjA4SsEGAzguj4h?p=preview

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[04:13:00] <dsdeiz> any suggestions on how i can "refresh" a directive's template when a button is clicked? and also call the controller as well..

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[04:14:15] <wafflej0ck_> dsdeiz: can you show what you're trying?

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[04:16:42] <BahamutWC> beckyconning_: http://plnkr.co/edit/RWgwQNZySRp4I7h2z5QF?p=preview

[04:16:45] <dsdeiz> yeah sec

[04:17:18] <BahamutWC> when working with promises in Angular, you need to do $scope.$apply()

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[04:17:30] <beckyconning_> BahamutWC: thanks! i do know that but i've have been up for at least 24 hours and would have missed that forever so thanks!

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[04:17:38] <BahamutWC> ah heh

[04:17:46] <BahamutWC> just explaining in case :)

[04:18:18] <beckyconning_> BahamutWC: : ]

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[04:21:01] <beckyconning_> i got stuck for half an hour earlier because i had typed Promise.resolve instead of $q.when and so locals.$scope.$digest wasn't working and like, rather than thinking i had made a silly mistake somewhere i thought that i basically didn't know anything about javascript and that i was missing some sort of massive fundamental point or something omg

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[04:21:32] <beckyconning_> programming is weird.

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[04:22:25] <wafflej0ck_> dylan9o4: I haven't used firebase but it looks like it mostly stores things as UTF-8 and from doing a bit of googling it looks like a trademark should encode correctly if the response headers indicate the response body is UTF-8 encoded json using the appropriate headers, do you have a sample by chance?

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[04:22:30] <BahamutWC> well, Angular does its own funky stuff

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[04:30:26] <dsdeiz> wafflej0ck_: trying to do this http://plnkr.co/edit/rXpk7oZ6dU7AjllD5QKW?p=preview but can't get it to work with plnkr

[04:31:03] <dsdeiz> basically when refresh is called, everything inside the controller is re-ran

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[04:32:26] <dsdeiz> i'm not sure what the best way to do this though :D

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[04:33:34] <wafflej0ck_> dsdeiz: here got the basic part working can you expand on it a bit more http://plnkr.co/edit/luSuh1dGYLrgzt8gbjI4?p=preview

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[04:33:48] <wafflej0ck_> dsdeiz: you have a few options here

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[04:34:07] <wafflej0ck_> dsdeiz: basically you can have the directive emit an event that the controller has a listener setup for and then it does some stuff

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[04:34:27] <wafflej0ck_> dsdeiz: or you could move the logic/data into a service/factory and then inject that into the controller and directive and just modify the data that way

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[04:35:03] <wafflej0ck_> the latter is typically "better" IMO but not always the case

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[04:35:44] <wafflej0ck_> depends on what the directive is really supposed to do and how you plan to re-use it

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[04:35:58] <dsdeiz> nah, not planning on re-using it

[04:36:11] <wafflej0ck_> yah go the second route then

[04:36:12] <focii> Hi.  I have a ng-submit that calls a save function which will use $http to post to a url different than the page.  If I modify the headers to ‘application/x-www-form-urlencoded; charset=utf-8’ the action still fires but the url is changed from ‘/test-save’ to ‘/test’ and from POST to GET.  I’ve tried changed it in both the $httpProvider.defaults and in the $http call itself. I’m lost at whats going on

[04:36:47] <dsdeiz> you mena logic/data in a service/factory?

[04:36:51] <dsdeiz> s/mena/mean

[04:36:53] <wafflej0ck_> dsdeiz: the first route using an event decouples it a bit better but tracing what happened with events makes things more difficult since it's all async stuff going on you don't get clean stack traces

[04:36:56] <wafflej0ck_> dsdeiz: yeah

[04:37:01] <dsdeiz> got it. thx!

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[04:45:48] <jrajaratnam> hello all!  I have searched all over the web and can not get a resolution to my issue.. any help would be greatly appreciated… I’m implementing angular-google-maps to my app.

[04:46:02] <jrajaratnam> I’ve followed all the steps and I get the following error when running my app:

[04:46:13] <jrajaratnam> Error: [$injector:modulerr] Failed to instantiate module google-maps due to:

[04:46:13] <jrajaratnam> Error: [$injector:nomod] Module 'google-maps' is not available! You either misspelled the module name or forgot to load it. If registering a module ensure that you specify the dependencies as the second argument.

[04:47:04] <jrajaratnam> i’ve even tried moving: <script src="//maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js?sensor=false"></script> into my header to ensure that it gets loaded before any other scripts

[04:47:13] <jrajaratnam> I used yo angular to create my app

[04:47:25] <jrajaratnam> and bower install to install angular-google-maps

[04:47:54] <wafflej0ck_> jrajaratnam: the error means it doesn't have the angular-google-maps javascript file loaded

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[04:48:03] <beckyconning_> wafflej0ck_: dsdeiz: i normally have an directive scope thing called like on-update or something that the directive user can register a controller method with it. is that a bad idea or something? e.g. `scope: { onRefresh: "&", rows: "=" }` on a directive definition object

[04:48:08] <wafflej0ck_> jrajaratnam: are you using grunt-wiredep to include your dependencies

[04:48:35] <jrajaratnam> I’m using whatever comes out of the box with Yeoman

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[04:48:53] <wafflej0ck_> beckyconning_: nope nothing wrong with that, the solution just didn't come to mind... but seems reasonable too

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[04:49:21] <jrajaratnam> wafflej0ck:  I am seeing    <script src="bower_components/angular-google-maps/dist/angular-google-maps.js"></script>

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[04:49:35] <jrajaratnam> in my .html flie so it must be adding it and loading it

[04:49:42] <wafflej0ck_> jrajaratnam: no errors before the one you put there?

[04:49:47] <jrajaratnam> I believe the issue is with loading the Google Maps API script

[04:49:48] <beckyconning_> wafflej0ck_: cool : ) i like that method cos it feels like they are easy to re-use. just wanted to make sure it wasn't a bad idea.

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[04:50:06] <jrajaratnam> Uncaught Error: [$injector:modulerr] Failed to instantiate module liqrlyAngularApp due to:

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[04:50:22] <jrajaratnam> so:

[04:50:24] <jrajaratnam> Uncaught Error: [$injector:modulerr] Failed to instantiate module liqrlyAngularApp due to:

[04:50:25] <jrajaratnam> Error: [$injector:modulerr] Failed to instantiate module google-maps due to:

[04:50:25] <jrajaratnam> Error: [$injector:nomod] Module 'google-maps' is not available! You either misspelled the module name or forgot to load it. If registering a module ensure that you specify the dependencies as the second argument.

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[04:50:51] <wafflej0ck_> jrajaratnam: you see this file loaded in the network panel? bower_components/angular-google-maps/dist/angular-google-maps.js

[04:50:56] <wafflej0ck_> jrajaratnam: check it's contents

[04:51:24] <beckyconning_> e.g. `<sc-list on-refresh="getLatestRows" rows="rows"></sc-list>`

[04:52:02] <jrajaratnam> hmmm.. the only thing loaded in Network is “bootstrap.css.map”

[04:52:11] <wafflej0ck_> beckyconning_: yeah I mean only "issue" I see with it is you can't easily have multiple functions listen for it just like ng-click but it's a nice convenient and pretty clean way to go otherwise

[04:52:20] <wafflej0ck_> jrajaratnam: refresh while you have the panel open

[04:52:28] <wafflej0ck_> jrajaratnam: disable cache checkbox in there too

[04:52:39] <beckyconning_> wafflej0ck_: ah that makes sense. yeah.

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[04:53:35] <jrajaratnam> ok i see that it is loaded

[04:53:48] <BahamutWC> did you include your module as a dependency?

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[04:54:02] <BahamutWC> i.e. angular.module('liqrlyAngularApp', ['google-maps'])

[04:54:09] <jrajaratnam> yes

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[04:54:23] <BahamutWC> is the module name 'google-maps'?

[04:54:31] <wafflej0ck_> yeah so in the content of the file loaded check it's definition

[04:54:50] <jrajaratnam> yes.. the tutorial i’m followingis using the same name

[04:54:51] <wafflej0ck_> you'll see angular.module('something-about-maps-here') make sure that matches with your dependency

[04:54:58] <BahamutWC> looks like it's 'uiGmapgoogle-maps'

[04:55:01] <wafflej0ck_> jrajaratnam: check the actual source that's loaded

[04:55:10] <BahamutWC> https://github.com/angular-ui/angular-google-maps/blob/master/dist/angular-google-maps.js

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[04:55:41] <jrajaratnam> the angular-google-maps directive is a dependent on the Google Maps API script

[04:55:55] <wafflej0ck_> jrajaratnam: try to change the dependency to uiGmapgoogle-maps as BahamutWC said

[04:56:12] <wafflej0ck_> jrajaratnam: if you're loading the code just linked to it appears that's the current module name

[04:56:16] <jrajaratnam> and the ‘google-maps’ is a module of the Google Maps API script not the angular-google-maps

[04:56:23] <jrajaratnam> ok I will try it

[04:56:41] <BahamutWC> the angular module system is different from other non-angular scripts

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[04:57:06] <jrajaratnam> google.maps = google.maps

[04:57:24] <jrajaratnam> that’s the line in the actual Google Maps API script

[04:57:32] <BahamutWC> that has nothing to do with the angular module system

[04:57:34] <jrajaratnam> so I feel like I’m using the right modeul

[04:57:36] <jrajaratnam> module

[04:57:41] <jrajaratnam> I’ll try it with the other one as suggested

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[04:57:54] <BahamutWC> the only thing that matters is the module defined in angular.module('moduleName', [])

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[04:59:39] <jrajaratnam> wow… well that seemed to do the trick

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[05:00:01] <jrajaratnam> must have been a change since the video tutorial was done in July

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[05:00:07] <BahamutWC> could be

[05:00:12] <BahamutWC> do some reading up on angular.module

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[05:00:30] <jrajaratnam> thank you so much guys.. learned how to diagnose this stuff a little better with your help

[05:00:46] <BahamutWC> np

[05:00:54] <jrajaratnam> another arrow in the quiver…. although I have PLENTY of room for more arrows

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[05:01:38] <BahamutWC> you won't be able to carry them all once you're done using angular :)

[05:02:15] <jrajaratnam> haha, hope that’s the case.

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[05:02:57] <jaydubya> nickeddy, are you around?

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[05:04:31] <jaydubya> anyone using gulp-concat as an autoloader for the javascript files that have to be included in index.html

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[05:05:04] <BahamutWC> jaydubya: what do you need to know?

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[05:06:16] <jaydubya> i have been playing all weekend with nickeddy's gulpfile and I was wondering how people who use the "autoloader" start a new ng project (that includes testing)

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[05:06:44] <BahamutWC> you can inject the scripts you need into the config files/index.html

[05:06:54] <BahamutWC> best to do it to a copy of index.html to avoid merge conflicts though

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[05:08:56] <jaydubya> to start a brand new project, do you use a github repo or bower or what ... I'm looking for a "proper" workflow and "proper" architecture with plans on using gulp-concat and karma and phantomjs

[05:10:22] <BahamutWC> with task runners like grunt or gulp, it's about setting up a workflow you like

[05:10:45] <BahamutWC> for example I like having a watch task of sorts that watches for when a file changes and then runs through the appropriate task associated with that file

[05:10:59] <BahamutWC> for example, if I change a LESS file, I like to see my LESS files get compiled to a new CSS file

[05:11:38] <jaydubya> yes, that's what I am trying to build but there doesn't seem to be a consensus on structure etc

[05:11:40] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: I basically have a git repo that I mirror for new projects with all the basics setup then just customize it from there

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[05:12:08] <jaydubya> so no bower

[05:12:16] <BahamutWC> that's because there isn't much of a consensus

[05:12:20] <jaydubya> lol

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[05:12:31] <jaydubya> tough for beginners

[05:12:42] <BahamutWC> devs are opinionated as hell

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[05:13:17] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: I use bower too

[05:13:17] <map7> I'm getting an error when starting protractors webdriver-manager, has anyone seen this error before http://pastie.org/9739443

[05:13:32] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XXMvReO8-Awi1EZXAXS4PzDzdNvV6pGcuaF4Q9821Es/pub <-- this is I think the generally accepted way to go in terms of folder structure

[05:13:33] <BahamutWC> I use bower as well - it's convenient as hell, and lets you version your plugins

[05:13:39] <BahamutWC> I hate wiredep though

[05:13:43] <jaydubya> I watched a video on egghead on saturday on refactoring and absolutely loved how the project was assembled

[05:13:49] <BahamutWC> too opinionated of a tool

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[05:14:13] <wafflej0ck_> yeah so far have barely used wiredep so far has seemed okay to me but I haven't put it through any serious paces on projects or anything

[05:14:18] <Angulario> When using the module: angular-local-storage  from: https://github.com/grevory/angular-local-storage  is this the correct initialization process ( my app runs fine other than getting this module loaded ) Here is the paste-bin: http://pastebin.com/fieQHZkh

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[05:14:45] <jaydubya> so, wafflej0ck_, you used bower to build a sample project and then repoed it and that's your starter?

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[05:15:27] <BahamutWC> Angulario: any errors?

[05:15:34] <Angulario> just says lss is undefined

[05:15:36] <Angulario> no errors

[05:15:38] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: actually used yo angular as the basis of it initially, stripped down/modified the Gruntfile for one of my early projects and mirrored that as the template, since then I just keep that project-template.git project updated with changes I want for all future projects

[05:15:39] <Angulario> all seems to build fine

[05:16:07] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: wrote two scripts one to setup a new bare repo on the server and one to run on my client machine that mirrors the project-template.git into the new bare repository

[05:16:19] <BahamutWC> Angulario: shouldn't .setPrefix('TSLApplication'); be 'TestCaseApplication'?

[05:16:25] <BahamutWC> 'TestCaseApp'*

[05:16:32] <Angulario> yeah that was a typo of me trying to cover up my company name

[05:16:39] <Angulario> its all TSLApplication in the source on my cpu lol

[05:17:01] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: so if you have a new project, you just clone, run bower install, and start coding

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[05:18:19] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: yeah run script on server, run script on client (provide same name in each, I also have a project-template for websites vs components so it sets up the appropriate stuff by prompting in the bash scripts for website or component) then I just change directory to the new place the second script clones to by default (/var/www/projectName), npm install && bower install, subl ., grunt serve

[05:18:26] <BahamutWC> Angulario: not sure what the problem would be here

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[05:18:37] <BahamutWC> not sure why you would even get the error message that lss is not a function

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[05:18:45] <wafflej0ck_> oh actually it does the npm install && bower install

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[05:18:49] <BahamutWC> isSupported is just a key...

[05:18:51] <wafflej0ck_> forgot about that

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[05:19:14] <Angulario> yeah seems lss should be mapped to... localStorageService

[05:19:17] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: that's what I want to build ... do you use grunt-concat?

[05:19:30] <Angulario> so lss.isSupported should be a bool..

[05:19:39] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: yeah for the build step it uses concat

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[05:20:12] <BahamutWC> the code looks fine to me

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[05:20:28] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: OK, I'm off to yo angular then (via Google, of course)

[05:20:51] <Angulario> lss is undefined..

[05:20:57] <dnull> how can I wrap something like this in between  ' '    :   '{{outcome['@runnerNumber']}}{{$last ? '.' : ', '}}'

[05:21:12] <Angulario> so bummer right now I wanted to work on this but been 30 mins looking at what seems like no error

[05:21:18] <dnull> I get error: https://docs.angularjs.org/error/$parse/lexerr?p0=Unexpected%20next%20character%20&p1=s%208-8%20%5B@%5D&p2=outcome%20@runnerNumber

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[05:21:23] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: http://youtu.be/zQNbsCTFrAA?t=34m55s <-- video I did for this stuff

[05:21:38] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: you are awesome!

[05:22:02] <BahamutWC> dnull: just use a function at that point

[05:22:25] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: yeah np figured since it took me a while to figure out I wouldn't want to forget it all and would be helpful for others

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[05:22:37] <BahamutWC> that's a lot of logic in two interpolation statements - one interpolation statement with a function that returns the value you want would be more efficient

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[05:24:18] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: I do want to switch to using gulp eventually but for now this gruntfile does everything I need, basically I just take out the filerev or rev task from the Gruntfile since I don't typically care about the cache-busting and it has been problematic for me

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[05:26:30] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: does Grunt do the autoloading thing that gulp-concat can do ... that is my most important need b/c going back to index.html to include every file is killing me b/c I am trying to be "religious" in that each file only contains one thing

[05:26:46] <dnull> BahamutWC I didnt get that

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[05:27:16] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: sounds like what wiredep does the yo angular project currently includes that by default

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[05:27:44] <BahamutWC> dnull: why not do {{getValue()}} where $scope.getValue returns what you want?

[05:27:45] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: the wiredep task automatically loads the dependencies in your bower.json by looking the dependencies bower.json file for a main:"somefile.js" property

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[05:28:16] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: the problem is if the package maintainer doesn't include a main section in their bower.json, then you still have to load it yourself or get a pull request merged to fix their repo

[05:28:20] <dnull> BahamutWC Ahh ok

[05:28:23] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: or clone it or something

[05:28:32] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: have you ever used Laravel (PHP)

[05:28:58] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: I use Eloquent ORM so I use a big chunk of Laravel but I use Slim for doing my routing since I don't need the templating of Laravel

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[05:30:06] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: well, in Laravel we have psr4 which means I can autoload a namespace and anytime I create a file in a watched folder, it is automatically included by Laravel. THAT is what I desperately need in Angular

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[05:30:46] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: yeah the problem is basically you don't really want to load all the js files in the bower folder

[05:31:28] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: I'm sure you could code up a grunt task or a gulp plugin or whatever to do some more advanced loading for you but there's gotta be somewhere you list the dependencies still

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[05:31:38] <princeraj> Hello

[05:31:52] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: typically I just do it myself in the index.html, it's usually all that's in the index.html aside from a ui-view or a few maybe

[05:32:16] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: I can deal with listing the eight or so js files that bootstraps the ng app ... it is the controllers, filters, directives, factories, services, etc, etc that I want to automate

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[05:32:43] <princeraj> excuse me.........

[05:32:50] <princeraj> can i have attension please

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[05:33:18] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: yeah personally I "solved" this problem by typically including a service and controllers related to some area of the app in one file unless it becomes "too long" which is just a judgement call I make this way I don't have 100 files to include

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[05:33:48] <princeraj> i want to perform city state relation with php mysql

[05:33:54] <princeraj> using angularjs

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[05:33:58] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: gotcha

[05:34:04] <dnull> wafflej0ck_  could you please poiint me how can i put this in ' ' : '{{outcome['@runnerNumber']}}{{$last ? '.' : ', '}}

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[05:34:15] <princeraj> can anyone have any idea?

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[05:35:06] <wafflej0ck_> dnull: js properties can't start with an @

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[05:35:54] <dnull> wafflej0ck_ That is a json property which is working fine at the moment

[05:36:21] <wafflej0ck_> dnull: just sayin' I've looked it up recently you can't start a property with @ so I would start with changing that if you have the option

[05:36:58] <dnull> wafflej0ck_ Yes we have version 2 of 3rd party coming

[05:37:09] <dnull> 3rd party api

[05:37:22] <wafflej0ck_> okay so not sure I understand the question though

[05:37:38] <wafflej0ck_> you want to quote the thing or something?

[05:37:40] <dnull> wafflej0ck_ Let me plnkr

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[05:38:51] <dnull> wafflej0ck_ http://plnkr.co/edit/flwTNAekTt8oT7mCoqUG?p=info line 24

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[05:40:15] <wafflej0ck_> dnull: oh probably either use " on the outside or use \' to escape the single quotes on the inside

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[05:41:52] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: really grouping parts in one file like that was also a judgement call because I felt I had to flip between files too much using services in controllers, having it in one file makes that a lot easier too

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[05:43:37] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: do you mean that all of your directives are in directives.js? or all filters, directives, controllers etc that deal with let's say football go in football.js

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[05:44:51] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: yeah usually something like, users.js, companies.js these would each have a service and a few controllers, maybe some filters or directives if they are specific to that part of the app, then a directives folder that has more generic directives that would be used throughout or that I might make into separate components for inclusion on other projects cause they're generic enough

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[05:45:21] <wafflej0ck_> same kind of thing for filters though typically I just group the filters based on what they do like, dateFitlers.js or whatever

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[05:46:02] <wafflej0ck_> dateFilters.js* even

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[05:46:12] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: yeah, I've seen something like that with a shared folder (for app wide stuff) and then each "feature" having a folder with a js file and a view

[05:46:32] <wafflej0ck_> yeah my views I keep separate from the scripts

[05:46:41] <wafflej0ck_> but typically has the same feature folder structure

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[05:48:30] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: but yeah I would also have those in /scripts/user/users.js and then if users.js gets unwieldy I might split it into userService.js and userControllers.js or even split the controllers if they get verbose (though this is avoided and rare)

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[05:48:54] <wafflej0ck_> and would have /views/user/home.html /views/user/edit.html something like that

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[05:49:04] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: gotcha

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[05:50:38] <jaydubya> the wiredep you mentioned is "taptapship/wiredep"?

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[05:51:15] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: ^

[05:51:21] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: https://github.com/stephenplusplus/grunt-wiredep

[05:51:31] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: that taptapship one is the basis for the plugins so yeah sort of

[05:51:45] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: thanks

[05:51:48] <wafflej0ck_> np

[05:51:55] <dnull> wafflej0ck_ Do you think ng-repeat would be an issue in that code

[05:51:56] <dnull> ?

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[05:52:10] <dnull> http://plnkr.co/edit/flwTNAekTt8oT7mCoqUG?p=info line 2

[05:52:13] <dnull> 21

[05:52:20] <dnull> wafflej0ck_

[05:52:56] <wafflej0ck_> dnull: oh yeah that ng-repeat won't get picked up if you're just using $interpolate you'll actually want to use $compile instead

[05:53:32] <dnull> wafflej0ck_ ok let me try. Thanks

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[05:54:49] <wafflej0ck_> dnull: yeah np $interpolate is only good for the {{}} curly braces to get evaluated with some object, $compile will get the link functions ready for all the directives it finds in whatever is passed to it and then you pass an object to be used as the scope for those directives link functions into the function returned by the call to $compile

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[05:55:47] <wafflej0ck_> ends up being something like var compiledElement = $compile(thingToCompile)(scopeObject); but yeah check out the docs for samples

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[05:56:35] <dnull> wafflej0ck_ Yap will do.

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[05:56:45] <dnull> You are awesome

[05:56:56] <dnull> wafflej0ck_

[05:57:00] <wafflej0ck_> thx appreciate it I feel like my heads on fire :)

[05:57:21] <dnull> wafflej0ck_ You could reaplce John oliver...

[05:57:31] <dnull> but wait why?

[05:57:54] <dnull> na we should make you stick here.. dont replace john oliver

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[06:00:01] <dnull> :)

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[06:00:20] <wafflej0ck_> yeah I'll probably stick around here for a while

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[06:01:34] <wafflej0ck_> at least till I figure out how to just code everything with Qt or GTK and use broadway or one of these things for hooking it into a web UI (seems that stuff is still nascient too)

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[06:02:47] <wafflej0ck_> not that it's really necessary but anything I can do to get away from browser inconsistencies and getting back to some typed stuff would be a nice break for me

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[06:04:03] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: do you use Browserify and, if so, what does it do and do I need it?

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[06:04:26] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: no idea sorry, I'm familiar at a surface level with it but never used it

[06:04:52] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: just something I just came across in my research

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[06:05:24] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: http://briantford.com/blog/angular-bower

[06:05:42] <wafflej0ck_> BahamutWC:  ah the article I just linked is what I was thinking of earlier it was Brian Ford but not yearofmoo.com

[06:06:00] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: I used that guide to make components that I can re-use

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[06:06:11] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: pretty impressive that you started a company with your brother ... all I ever wanted was from my brother to move OUT the house

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[06:06:43] <jaydubya> for my brother^

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[06:07:38] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: heh yeah we've always mostly gotten along but are very different people too, so it works out pretty well, he likes to talk a lot and just passed the state bar exam in Illinois so he can practice law and has friends all over the city, I'm mostly introverted and focused on building stuff

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[06:08:08] <wafflej0ck_> so he finds people with needs and I find solutions we pitch them on and it's worked out well enough so far

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[06:09:12] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: sounds like it ... my brother is a surgeon so his favorite pastime is letting me know that developers hover just above the poverty line

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[06:11:12] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: hmm yeah not sure if you're gonna be making surgeon money but you also don't have to worry about accidentally killing your computer (you can always buy another) also I dunno where you're at but around the city developer jobs are pretty lofty

[06:11:23] <dnull> I got something like this : $scope.resultHtml= $compile(AppFactory.getResultHtmlSnippet(), $scope.winplace); but no output

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[06:11:43] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: Memphis, TN suburb here

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[06:12:30] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: about six hours due south of you

[06:12:37] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: yeah Chicago there are jobs around $100K+ for experienced front end developers

[06:13:29] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: check out glassdoor.com or the javascript jabber talk show they always advertise for places to get front end dev jobs

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[06:14:18] <wafflej0ck_> jaydubya: seemingly lots of people do want Ruby/Rails experience too now but lots of places will train you on it too and it's not a deal breaker

[06:15:14] <jaydubya> wafflej0ck_: longtime CodeIgniter dev here that transitioned to Laravel a few months ago

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[06:15:40] <dnull> wafflej0ck_ http://plnkr.co/edit/flwTNAekTt8oT7mCoqUG?p=info

[06:15:55] <dnull> wafflej0ck_ $compile is use this way?

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[06:17:13] <dnull> [$sce:itype] Attempted to trust a non-string value in a content requiring a string: Context: html

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[06:18:22] <wafflej0ck_> dnull: yeah problem is with $compile you're no longer dealing with just a string it's actually an element, so you'll want it being done in a directive

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[06:21:52] <nesquerra> anyone using angular 1.3 these days?

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[06:22:02] <nesquerra> I've been mostly happy with 1.2.26

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[06:24:16] <areologist> using 1.3 now

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[06:26:24] <Fifty5Plus> wafflej0ck_: hi ... pm

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[06:30:10] <Grokling_> Can anyone walk me through dragging ionic up to date? ui-router 0.2.10 (the bundled version) has bugs which are fixed in later versions. I'm already stuck with angular 1.2 because ionic isn't up to 1.3 yet. Maybe it's time to learn how to roll my own..

[06:30:28] <areologist> nesquerra: some reasons to upgrade: it's easy and compatibility is high, one-time bindings, $compileProvider.debugInfoEnabled, $watchGroup, ng-strict-di, $rootScope.applyAsync, $httpProvider.useApplyAsync..

[06:30:56] <Cooluhuru> I have a couple of question about angularjs releases. Why does 1.3 releases incrementally 1.3.1, 1.3.2, 1.3.3, while 1.2 had a more traditional bug fixes release

[06:31:08] <Cooluhuru> 1.2.21, 1.2.22, 1.2.23, etc

[06:31:41] <areologist> I don't follow the question, Cool.

[06:31:50] <Cooluhuru> actually, i just realized that I asked a really dumb no sense question

[06:32:04] <areologist> 21st, 22nd, and 23rd revision vs. 1st, 2nd, 3rd?

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[06:32:56] <areologist> np. hehe

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[06:47:26] <nesquerra> good to know

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[06:48:21] <nesquerra> thx y'all

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[07:10:57] <jrajaratnam> hey folks!  I think I have a quick one.  WIthin my controller I have a function that gets a single store as an object response.  I then store that response as an object and I am able to get those elements to me view.  I am trying to store an element of that object within the controller itself so that I can store it to a local variable… how would I go about doing that?

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[07:12:31] <jrajaratnam> http://jsfiddle.net/zmmmsvv7/

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[07:13:08] <jrajaratnam> the store object has a ‘latitude’ and ‘longitude’ element

[07:14:00] <jrajaratnam> I tried ‘storeLatitude = response.latitude;’

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[07:14:20] <jrajaratnam> I tried ‘storeLatitude = store.latitude;’

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[07:28:05] <Fifty5Plus> wafflej0ck_: r u around

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[07:39:04] <mbuf> any recommended books on AngularJS for beginners?

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[07:40:19] <pontiki> i just picked up ng-book on a strong recommendation. it's quite good, so far

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[07:43:33] <pontiki> mbuf: also, this was highly recommended, if you can sit for a bit over an hour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9MHigUZKEM

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[07:45:32] <mbuf> pontiki, the 60 minutes is in my TODO list

[07:45:39] <mbuf> pontiki, okay

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[08:04:15] <wafflej0ck_> mbuf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhfUv0spHCY check this one out too when you have some time lots of good tips on overall how to use what angular provides

[08:04:38] <wafflej0ck_> mbuf: also huge list of resources here https://github.com/jmcunningham/AngularJS-Learning

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[08:06:11] <wafflej0ck_> mbuf: personally I started off with a book too but found it was out of date too quickly that said I feel like things have slowed down some since then in terms of big breaking changes in angular (at least till 2.0 eventually starts rolling out) so ng-book might be better than the one I picked up, still was good for some fundamentals

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[08:16:31] <soee> good morning

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[08:34:36] <gnu_d> why the controller is being reloaded each time I change the route ? - For instance I have init function inside the controller, and it's being called on the bottom of the controller, now whenever I visit the controller's route, the init function is being loaded.

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[08:35:10] <GreenJello> gnu_d, that's how controllers work

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[08:35:32] <GreenJello> gnu_d, the easiest alternative would be to keep any one time behavior in a service

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[08:37:54] <gnu_d> GreenJello: actually the init was calling a service to add to the model

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[08:38:28] <gnu_d> GreenJello: so, you're suggesting to migrate the init function inside the service, and the service it's self to generate the test data ?

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[08:38:41] <GreenJello> yeah

[08:38:44] <gnu_d> :)

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[08:40:57] <gnu_d> GreenJello: how come the variables were intact ?

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[08:41:53] <mbuf> wafflej0ck_, thanks!

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[08:42:19] <wafflej0ck_> mbuf: np

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[08:44:50] <dsdeiz> is the whole controller a class? i wonder how i can define a function without using $scope.methodName = function(); this is what i've been using always

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[08:48:51] <gnu_d> How can I separate edit and view only logic in some controller ? For instance the edit logic to be loaded from a separate module if user role is admin.

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[08:49:44] <Grokling_> wafflej0ck_: What timezone are you in?

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[08:50:12] <wafflej0ck_> Grokling: Central standard time

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[08:50:56] <Grokling_> wafflej0ck_: So, you just never sleep?

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[08:51:30] <dsdeiz> i guess this.someFunction() = function() { ... } doesn't work? i declared my method like this and basically just called it inside the controller but it says that the function is 'undefine'

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[08:53:14] <oddalot> you can't assign a value to a function invocation

[08:53:38] <oddalot> this.someFucntion = function (){}; is what you want

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[08:53:39] <Grokling_> this.somefunction = function(){...} should work though.

[08:54:03] <dsdeiz> oops sorry, yeah this.someFunction = function()

[08:54:09] <wafflej0ck_> Grokling: eh I sleep late

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[08:54:28] <dsdeiz> yeah still it says 'undefined'

[08:54:40] <wafflej0ck_> Grokling: did some night jobs for a while and have always been more of a night time person

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[08:55:35] <dsdeiz> i've got this.someFunction = function() { $scope.foo = 'bar' }; and just called it inside the controller via someFunction();

[08:55:55] <Grokling_> wafflej0ck_: Me too. Unfortunately the kids have school, and I have to get them organised first, so no sleeping late for me any more.

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[08:56:32] <oddalot> if you assign it to this, you're going to have to either reference this, or the object it refers to when you want to call the function

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[08:57:43] <oddalot> var someFunction = this.someFunction = function () {};

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[08:58:18] <oddalot> also works

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[08:58:47] <Grokling_> $scope.functions.myFunction = function(){...} is another option too.

[08:58:52] <dsdeiz> hm, actually i just want to have methods inside the controller.. cause i'd like to call it on two different other functions

[08:58:59] <dsdeiz> yeah, don't really wanted to use $scope

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[08:59:17] <eighty4> stupid question, if I have <div ng-repeat="...." my-directive> can I somehow bind that my-directive just once to the parent of each ngRepeat element?

[08:59:26] <eighty4> doing that code it will bind for EACH element

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[08:59:43] <dsdeiz> so i have something like someFunction = function() { ... }; and i got $scope.anotherFunction = function() { someFunction(); }

[08:59:43] <oddalot> really if you are going to be doing a lot of work that requires many many functions it might make sense to move that into a Service

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[08:59:55] <dsdeiz> nah it's just one function

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[09:00:14] <dsdeiz> and only this controller is calling it

[09:00:16] <oddalot> you can declare functions inside the current scope of course

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[09:00:25] <oddalot> using closure, you will have access to them

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[09:00:32] <Grokling_> If it's just one function, do var myFunction = function(){...}??

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[09:00:38] <dsdeiz> oh

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[09:00:52] <dsdeiz> lol. i fail again :D gonna give that a try

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[09:01:51] <dsdeiz> crap.. thx :D

[09:03:00] <Grokling_> heh. Sometimes it's too obvious huh!

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[09:48:40] <gnu_d> how do I use filter to extract the values only ?

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[09:58:31] <Grokling_> gnu_d: How do you mean?

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[09:59:10] <jkl444> hi guys, what would you recommend for a spinner in angularjs (when doing ajax calls)?

[09:59:30] <wafflej0ck_> gnu_d: angular.module('myFilters', []).filter('valuesOnly', function(){return function(input){var retString='';for(var property in input){if(input.hasOwnProperty(property)){retString+=input[property]+', ';}}return retString}})

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[10:00:54] <wafflej0ck_> jkl444: depends on your use case and how complex you need it

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[10:01:02] <wafflej0ck_> jkl444: a gif with ng-show/hide can be enough

[10:01:02] <jkl444> very simple actually

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[10:01:13] <jkl444> i would rather have something unified

[10:01:13] <gnu_d> Grokling_: let's say I got tags object, which is a list containing objects, each object has a key "text", the goal is to extract the values and stringify them, separated by ", "

[10:01:24] <jkl444> css maybe

[10:01:30] <meverone> jkl444: http://cgross.github.io/angular-busy/demo/

[10:01:37] <meverone> or

[10:01:38] <meverone> http://tobiasahlin.com/spinkit/

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[10:01:51] <jkl444> meverone

[10:01:53] <jkl444> thanks

[10:01:57] <Grokling_> gnu_d: Check what wafflej0ck_ posted above - that'll get you pretty close!

[10:01:57] <jkl444> i'll have a look

[10:02:23] <wafflej0ck_> yeah with no actual parameters I just guessed but it's the basics at least

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[10:02:31] <meverone> n/p

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[10:02:39] <gnu_d> Grokling_: I was looking for something built-in :) if possible, I want to learn custom filter later.

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[10:03:13] <wafflej0ck_> gnu_d: sounds like a pretty specific scenario don't think any built in filters do it

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[10:03:21] <wafflej0ck_> gnu_d: rolling your own is easy I did it in a line above :)

[10:03:32] <wafflej0ck_> well maybe 2 lines

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[10:03:35] <Grokling_> gnu_d: No time like the present.  There's nothing builtin that does what you want - but it's not too hard to make something. Like wafflej0ck_ just did.

[10:03:39] <wafflej0ck_> unless you have a real high res monitor

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[10:03:54] <Grokling_> You don't have to do it in it's own module either which would simplify it a bit.

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[10:04:17] <wafflej0ck_> yeah I was trying to be thorough :P and a bit goofy as I'm on the brink of sleep here

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[10:04:52] <gnu_d> Grokling_: Ok, I'll learn custom filters now :)

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[10:10:46] <scav> are there any angular libraries for oauth2 that anyone would like to recomend?

[10:11:06] <scav> i would very much like to not write my own, so i want to look at propper alternatives

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[10:15:21] <gurke_> good morning. :)

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[10:15:35] <Prjio> sers

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[10:22:37] <lite_> anyone here familiar with protractor? Im trying to have protractor handle the starting/stopping of the selenium server but according to the guide the selenium jar should be in a subfolder of node_modules/protractor . It is not.

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[10:22:57] <lite_> did they remove selenium from the protractor package at some point ?

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[10:41:30] <markus_> Hi guys

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[10:45:05] <juristr> hi, does anyone have experiences in using $resource vs. Restangular??

[10:45:18] <markus_> Hi i am new to angularjs an tried to use an own directive in a dialog service template. But i am not sure why, the directive is not used.

[10:47:13] <andern> juristr: better to just ask your question

[10:47:29] <andern> some of the differences are listed here: https://github.com/mgonto/restangular#differences-with-resource

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[10:48:59] <juristr> andern: Yep, already went through that list. I was more interested in any experiences or shortcomings...like $resources is more lightweight (?) but you have to type more/have to do lots of tedious stuff manually etc..

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[10:51:13] <andern> juristr: i haven't tried restangular, but i use $resource in a huge angular app and our total code concerning $resource is very small

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[10:53:19] <juristr> andern: So you maybe know what they mean with "You don't have to create one $resource object per request" on the Restangular site. Is is that you need to create a $resource for every REST api endpoint you'd like to map, like for "/people", "/nations", ...

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[10:54:29] <andern> yes we do that. say we have on average 4 rest services per resource like /people /organization

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[10:54:39] <andern> that's 3 lines with $resource per resource

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[10:55:06] <andern> not even that. it's basically one line; a return statement, and two lines for wrapping it in a module and a factory

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[10:57:33] <andern> http://pastebin.com/6F9xr7yG

[10:57:35] <andern> something like that

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[10:58:33] <phaza> hello there. how to send push notifications to an angular frontend? some message qeue will be holding the notifications

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[11:11:40] <patricx> hello

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[11:11:58] <patricx>   please how to set angular ui-grid custom cell footer

[11:12:04] <juristr> andern: Exactly. Did something similar. So they probably mean that with Restangular you simply inject the Restangular object and create them on the fly..although I'm not sure I'd prefer that.

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[11:13:28] <patricx> <div>how to put aggregation result here </div>

[11:13:50] <juristr> andern: last question :) Does $restangular automatically "understand" when to execute a PUT vs. POST based on the object ID or do u have to do it by yourself? Meaning, to use .$save / .$update on the object instance (and obviously conf $resource to do PUTs for updates)

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[11:18:33] <nerder> hello

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[11:18:57] <pyfisch> hello. I am trying to serve an angular app on a development server. Serving the files works, the page is even shown, but then the the chrome tab crashes. And there are strange requests like "/bower_components/angular-route/angular-route.js?_=1416824085858" in the log of the development server, they are not shown in the network tab of the developer console.

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[11:19:43] <pyfisch> any ideas what it could be or where I could look?

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[11:21:13] <nerder> why angular is not defined? http://plnkr.co/edit/poyJ4dn0PeZIUJA51tFg?p=preview

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[11:23:23] <Helzibah> nerder: you've not included it

[11:23:34] <Helzibah> nerder: you need a <script src="">

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[11:24:24] <nerder> Helzibah: line 9: index.html

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[11:25:01] <Helzibah> nerder: no, that's referencing your own javascript, you need to include the angular framework

[11:25:53] <Grokling_> phaza: websockets

[11:25:53] <nerder> yep i realize just know, but i use the pluker in the channel description, i suppose was already included.

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[11:28:30] <Grokling_> heh nerder.. it used to be included.. Someone has borked the plunker template.

[11:29:04] <nerder> Grokling_: i knew it, that's why i didn't check for that

[11:30:59] <elmcrest> Hi all. I have a <li> with a child <ul> - for styling purpose the child <ul> has a margin - this margin triggers ng-mouseleave ... is there a best-pratice to solve this?

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[11:32:23] <Helzibah> elmcrest: have you tried using padding instead?

[11:33:29] <elmcrest> Helzibah: no because I have a background color ...

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[11:34:19] <Helzibah> elmcrest: fair enough, was just a thought as to where the mouseleave trigger was

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[11:35:28] <elmcrest> Helzibah: yeah ... I tried a $timeout, but it isn't canceled on a (again) coming mouseenter ... so doesn't help too

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[11:37:01] <Muthu> any one explain me angular js date picker functionality

[11:37:32] <andern> juristr: did you mean $resource?

[11:37:44] <juristr> andern: Yep

[11:38:11] <juristr> andern: Oh sorry...wrote restangular. Yep, meant $resource

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[11:38:24] <andern> you have to specify .$save or .$update or whatever

[11:38:27] <elmcrest> Helzibah: ok I just added an empty <li> child which does the margin ... maybe not so nice, but it works ^^

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[11:39:01] <juristr> andern: I see...

[11:39:08] <andern> i'm not completely sure what you mean by 'based on the object id'

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[11:39:28] <elmcrest> which does include the background-color though, but that's ok because in the "spacing-area" the unterlying background is black ... padding doesn't work because it would have broken the border style ... just to let you know Helzibah

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[11:40:28] <juristr> andern: Well often (other JS frameworks) there's some logic that you can always call .save on some instance of an object and internally based on whether it is a new entity (.id is not defined or < 0) it executes a POST and otherwise a PUT request to the server (as normally done with REST apis)

[11:40:37] <Helzibah> elmcrest: glad you found a fix one way or another!

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[11:41:03] <juristr> andern: It's not really that important as you can easily implement it by yourself...was just curious

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[11:41:26] <andern> i'm not exactly sure. we have implemented that on the client side here on the one place where we needed it

[11:41:47] <andern> but it would be handy. sometimes it can be too much magic though :)

[11:43:12] <Muthu> after selected date picker one day before to be binding

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[11:43:58] <nerder> angular,forEach have "break"?

[11:44:16] <Leon> nerder no

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[11:44:27] <Leon> it's a functional construct

[11:44:39] <nerder> i dont want to use a native for, cause i way slower

[11:44:48] <nerder> *it's

[11:44:54] <Leon> it's better in that case to combine a .filter and then use a forEach

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[11:46:20] <nerder> you mean for instance that if i want to show just the first 5 result of the array that i buid with my forEach i have to use a filter?

[11:46:41] <sacho> you could use .slice

[11:46:49] <metal55> Hey all, I am quite new to Angular... I am adding ng-change="searchChange()" to an element and I get Error: [$compile:ctreq] - I am not sure I I understand the error message?

[11:47:01] <sacho> what's the whole error

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[11:47:28] <nerder> sacho: you tell me?

[11:47:39] <metal55> Ah... I am sorry I missed the ng-model

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[11:47:47] <metal55> I just had ng-bind

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[11:47:57] <net2014> hello, how long an average javascript programmer would take to learn the most important elements of angularjs?

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[11:48:29] <sacho> 5 light years.

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[11:50:02] <numenor> sacho, Another 5 to learn angular 2.0

[11:50:44] <net2014> I am more of average in javascript and its jquery. I understand that ratings are subjective

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[11:51:36] <net2014> maybe a better question would be, is the learning curve of angularjs short?

[11:51:40] <ElysiumNet> numenor: 2.0?

[11:51:56] <ElysiumNet> net2014: depends on prior experience

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[11:52:26] <numenor> net2014 , Exclude directives, factories stc for a quicker startup

[11:52:27] <metal55> I am using ng-change which fired on every key press (change) but I want to call a function when the user has finished typing (presses enter)

[11:52:46] <ElysiumNet> metal55: that's covered in the guide and tutorial

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[11:52:47] <numenor> net2014 , begin with just the controller and $scope.

[11:53:10] <metal55> ElysiumNet: Ah awesome where is that ?

[11:53:39] <metal55> https://docs.angularjs.org/tutorial

[11:53:42] <metal55> That one?

[11:54:11] <net2014> thank you

[11:54:25] <ElysiumNet> metal55: wrong, I was thinking of the developer reference. https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/forms

[11:54:46] <metal55> Thank you ElysiumNet

[11:54:49] <ElysiumNet> Non-immediate (debounced) model updates

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[11:56:25] <metal55> Perfect thank you ElysiumNet

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[12:04:18] <ElysiumNet> when is 2.0 coming out anyway?

[12:04:42] <lite_> a year

[12:04:43] <lite_> maybe

[12:05:55] <net2014> would you say that angularjs is to javascript as to what laravel is to php?

[12:06:25] <ElysiumNet> net2014: a framework?

[12:06:50] <net2014> ElysiumNet: yes, ok

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[12:09:46] <duall> Hi

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[12:09:53] <AngularUI> [ng-grid] jpuri opened pull request #2212: #1815 (master...master) http://git.io/K3O5jQ

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[12:11:21] <net2014> well, laravel for php, helps you write using mvc, and offers various classes and libraries to help you write code faster, it also offers you some structure

[12:11:35] <net2014> is that the same with angularjs but for javascript?

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[12:13:19] <bd-> angularjs is a framework that provides some structure, yes

[12:13:25] <bd-> but it's not really similar to laravel

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[12:14:03] <_45kb> hey, is there some gentleman who can help on a little datepicker on github?

[12:14:53] <_45kb> :D come on…. :D

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[12:15:10] <duall> that's what she said ^^

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[12:15:21] <_45kb> :(

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[12:15:41] <duall> _45kb, it would've be easier if you ask the question instead of asking for permission to ask one

[12:15:55] * elmcrest is going to hate bootstrap ... bootstrap everywhere! fail!! :)

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[12:16:13] * duall bootstrap worst thing that could happen to angular

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[12:16:24] <_45kb> duall:  well the question is little bit generic its how to make it work with keyboard keys on Safari and Firefox, on Chrome it already works

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[12:16:50] <_45kb> i tryed using tabindex but Safari and Firefox wont work :(

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[12:17:08] <elmcrest> Does anyone have a link for a "responsive navbar without bootstrap" with angular? ... it seems I'm too stupid to find anything

[12:17:22] <duall> \o/ I'm pretty sure someone has faced the same issue, try some googling

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[12:17:30] <_45kb> elmcrest:  i did my framework https://github.com/720kb/csshelper

[12:17:34] <scav> are there any angular libraries for oauth2 that anyone would like to recomend?

[12:17:50] <elmcrest> _45kb: thx

[12:18:07] <_45kb> elmcrest:  np just i wrote this to not use bootstrap at all :P

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[12:18:50] <duall> somewhat reminds me to https://material.angularjs.org

[12:19:18] <_45kb> duall:   sure in the near future i'll use materials maybe with a own framework again :D

[12:19:18] <elmcrest> hehe ok ... I mean in general bootstrap or foundation isn't that bad ... but there is too much relevance for them and too less for more general solutions IMHO

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[12:20:00] <duall> elmcrest, i found everything related to ui-angular quite dirty ( code-wise )

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[12:20:56] <duall> and i think some of their components still use jquery

[12:21:57] <elmcrest> _45kb: doesn't help me though to solve my collapsible navbar :( ...

[12:22:20] <_45kb> elmcrest:  eheh yes i mean this is CSS only then you need little bit of angularjs ;)

[12:22:20] <elmcrest> Or am I missing something ... ?

[12:22:37] <elmcrest> _45kb: yeah that part is what I try to find :)

[12:23:00] <elmcrest> maybe that's too easy that somebody wrote some documentation somewhere :)

[12:23:02] <_45kb> elmcrest:  you just need to toggle a new menu on ng-click

[12:23:14] <_45kb> elmcrest:  i can tell you more in PM if you want

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[12:23:29] <elmcrest> _45kb: I'd apreciated that, yes :)

[12:23:38] <elmcrest> *apreciate

[12:23:40] <duall> elmcrest, can you show us a working example of what you need ? or something similar ?

[12:23:42] <_45kb> PM me np

[12:24:21] <elmcrest> duall: just a "bootstrap" like burger style menu ... like too less width = burger menu -> enough width navbar (<ul><li> ... )

[12:25:02] <duall> should i google 'bootstrap burger style menu' ?

[12:25:15] <duall> you mean accordion ?

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[12:26:36] <nerder> hello, anybody can expalin me why the ng-click dosent work with this? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d1a1e5db12a561de3a7d

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[12:27:14] <nerder> it' works if i'm in #/main and in any other routes, but not when i'm in the same route that i trigger

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[12:28:32] <nerder> i mean if i try to use the form in #/routes seems to don't do nothing

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[12:30:15] <_45kb> duall:  he means responsive mobile menu yeah

[12:30:19] <_45kb> the classic burger menu

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[12:34:37] <elmcrest> duall: yes sry, as _45kb mentioned ... just the kind of standard way. but I try my luck with _45kb's lib now :)

[12:34:47] <lukas_> Hi, I am trying to enable i18n on AngularJS app. I included the angular-locale_cs.js and angular-locale_en-us.js files but the switching is not working. Date format is always in language which I included last no matter what is set in the Accept-Langage header. What could be wrong?

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[12:36:54] <nerder> https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/i18n did you see this already?

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[12:38:17] <lukas_> yes

[12:38:31] <Crippy>  Can the DatePicker and the TimePicker to a single DateTime object so that the date of the DateTime object will be the date from the DatePicker, and the time from the DateTime object?

[12:39:07] <Crippy> bind the date and the time together to make one DateTime object...

[12:39:14] <nerder> lukas_: take a look of this too: http://codingsmackdown.tv/blog/2012/12/14/localizing-your-angularjs-app/

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[12:39:48] <nerder> Crippy: you could use $.extend()

[12:40:35] <lukas_> nerder: Is it possible to have multiple i18n files included in index.html?

[12:40:44] <nerder> Crippy: sorry i mean https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/function/angular.extend

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[12:41:08] <Crippy> Ok thanks nerder, ill have a read now :)

[12:41:09] <bd-> Crippy: i tried this before and it didn't work well

[12:41:14] <Crippy> lol

[12:41:20] <nerder> i guess that it give an example of something like this in the second link that i give you

[12:41:22] <bd-> when changing the date, it would reset the time to midnight

[12:41:45] <lukas_> nerder: I would expect that if I include multiple files for more languaes that the format of the date would be specified by user's browser settings.

[12:41:55] <Crippy> Been finding hard to find anything to do this

[12:42:12] <bd-> i ended up using input [type=datetime]

[12:42:15] <bd-> but it's pretty crap

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[12:42:46] <Crippy> as long as it submits to the db in a DatTime object im happy :)

[12:42:54] <Crippy> DateTime*

[12:42:56] <nerder> lukas_: yep, i know what you are looking for

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[12:44:06] <bd-> actually, was type=datetime-local

[12:44:14] <bd-> not sure how supported it is by browsers

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[12:45:16] <nerder> anybody can explain me why ui-sref don't let ng-click to trigger a function() if is in the same route it is suppose to "link"?

[12:45:34] <nerder> i expect that he refresh the view, instead of not working at all

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[12:47:35] <nerder> lukas_: http://www.ng-newsletter.com/posts/angular-translate.html this seems to show exactly what are you looking for

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[12:48:43] <lukas_> nerder: thanks. I'll try it

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[12:53:15] <scav> are there any angular libraries for oauth2 that anyone would like to recomend?

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[12:53:37] <_45kb> scav:  oAuth.io is a good one dont know if some angular lib for it

[12:53:52] <bd-> scav: for clientside oauth or serverside?

[12:54:34] <bd-> i think most people don't actually want to do oauth clientside, unless they're working only with google apis

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[12:59:06] <nerder> how can i build a function that "if i'm in this path return true"? i'm using ui-router.

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[12:59:29] <bd-> return $state.is('whatever')

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[12:59:35] <bd-> or $state.includes('partialpath')

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[13:01:13] <_45kb> nerder:  also $state.current gives you what the current state is

[13:01:16] <_45kb> afaik

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[13:04:11] <nerder> bd-: something like this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fd2d885b6c55ad4659c8

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[13:05:20] <bd-> yea, should work

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[13:06:16] <nerder> bd-: but i have to do this workaround to let it work in the way i want? or there is something else possible?

[13:06:32] <bd-> how is it a workarond?

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[13:08:21] <nerder> bd-: i do in this way because ui-sref seems to don't let ng-click to trigger a function if is in the same path it is suppose to link

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[13:10:26] <scav> bd-: ofc im not implementing an oauth2 server on the client side, i got a java based backend, i just need the frontend stuff

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[13:11:16] <scav> having it on the front end sounds like insanity :p

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[13:11:54] <vvdwivedi> hi guys, anyone can help me in implementing a patch request with angular?

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[13:13:00] <burzum2> Probably a stupid question but why isn't this updating the commentLength when I type into the body textarea? $scope.commentLength = 1000 - $scope.comment.Comment.body.length;

[13:13:01] <bd-> scav: then you probably want an oauth lib for java instead of angular, no?

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[13:14:33] <bd-> vvdwivedi: $http.patch() works if you have 1.3, if <=1.2 you need $http({method:'PATCH' ...})

[13:14:36] <Crippy> nerder managed to bind the data together with new date object and passing the two seperate datetime for date and datetime for the time into the new date object then used moment js to format it and it successfully submitted to the db

[13:15:41] <nerder> Crippy: sounds good ;)

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[13:16:06] <Crippy> might do a blog post on it

[13:16:12] <Crippy> bound to happy to someone else

[13:16:19] <vvdwivedi> I think I have 1.3

[13:16:19] <Crippy> happen*

[13:16:52] <vvdwivedi> I will give this a try

[13:16:56] <nerder> there's something that let me refresh the view with ui-router?

[13:19:03] <Leon> nerder I think there is a refresh or reload function on the $state

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[13:19:45] <Leon> nerder https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router/wiki/Quick-Reference#statereload

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[13:28:55] <scav> bd-: lets assume for a moment that im not a complete idiot, and that i just want to save some time here, if you are unaware of anything oauth related to angular - fine

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[13:29:28] <scav> bd-: im not asking for help implementing oauth, or using it, im asking for a library to just slap into my bower file, and add my backend params and open the login form

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[13:30:12] <bd-> well the question is whether you need to authorise the browser or the user's session on the server

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[13:31:33] <scav> uh what_?

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[13:33:06] <bd-> what is your actual use case? like, do you want google/fb login or something?

[13:33:41] <scav> that is irrelevant, it doenst matter if i want to use google or grandmaslogin.io

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[13:35:13] <wethil> anybody can help me about angular-seed?

[13:35:13] <scav> but its fine, i asked google instead

[13:36:01] <bd-> ok, but you want to use it as a login method for your service?

[13:37:01] <burzum2> how can i stop an user from typing more characters into an text area when a maximum amount of characters is reached? Im using ng-keypress right now but i cant figure out how to prevent the input when the limit is reached. any ideas please?

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[13:44:58] <ali4ever4> Hello , i was wondering using Angularjs with cordova (in mobile hybrid development) will that make the apps slower than other hybrid html5 js  applications ?!

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[14:01:07] <tangorri> anyone using websotrm with grunt ?

[14:01:24] <tangorri> can't specify the statup page ..

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[14:11:59] <nerder> anybody can explain me why the controller is not gonna reinizialize with this code? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9c53155fa2db501033f7

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[14:19:43] <bd-> nerder: $state.transitionTo( $state.current, angular.copy($stateParams), { reload: true, inherit: true, notify: true } );

[14:19:43] <bd-> try that instead of $state.reload()

[14:20:02] <nerder> ok

[14:20:22] <bd-> or wait for ui-router 0.2.13 release, it has bugfix for .reload

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[14:21:39] <bd-> actually apparently it is out, maybe you just need to bower update

[14:22:49] <veiz> /mode $me +x

[14:23:01] <nerder> bd-: it works!

[14:23:02] <soee> directive controller is a good way to load some form with different controller to create some record ?

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[14:23:27] <nerder> once i can i update the ui-router then

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[14:28:52] <Helzibah> irccloud really anti-advertise themselves when their entire userbase appears to split

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[14:31:30] <roadrunneratwast> can angular help with inheritance through dynamic name binding?  i have a div <produce>, can I use angular to dynamically make <produce-fruit>, <produce-vegetables>, <produce-herbs>, etc

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[14:51:33] <TweedleDee> is there a method that fire everytime a ng-model is updated?

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[14:52:06] <TweedleDee> I would like to use the ngStorage module from https://github.com/gsklee/ngStorage to update local-storage everytime a value has been changed via the ng-model binding

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[14:52:49] <TweedleDee> a $watch per say?

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[14:55:21] <htmelvis> morning

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[14:59:30] <net2014> angularjs plays well with jquery and bootstrap (I guess?)?

[14:59:40] <htmelvis> yes net2014 it does

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[15:00:59] <net2014> I still don't angularjs, although it's the second time I am looking at it, or possibly more times

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[15:01:16] <net2014> is its goal to separate view and models and have a controller in between?

[15:02:21] <htmelvis> I wouldn't say specifically that but it gives you a modular approach to writing your javascript apps

[15:02:42] <net2014> to avoid messy code?

[15:02:51] <htmelvis> It def has an easy point of entry. Things can get complicated quickly if you're not careful.

[15:03:07] <htmelvis> yes to avoid spaghetti code

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[15:03:28] <htmelvis> this is a good resource https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Di9MHigUZKEM&ei=pTpzVKLUOMOGyATNq4DwCg&usg=AFQjCNGAvcCy03OnmDL7VhvB5RAuXUMDSg&bvm=bv.80185997,d.aWw

[15:03:44] <htmelvis> Dan Wahlin does a great job of introduciing its features

[15:03:55] <net2014> thanks

[15:04:07] <net2014> angularjs seems small

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[15:04:22] <net2014> seems like something that can be leant quickly

[15:04:24] <htmelvis> it's not the smallest but fairly lightweight

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[15:04:49] <htmelvis> yes, there is some vocabulary and techniques that may confuse if you come from a traditional JS Background

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[15:08:18] <TweedleDee> if I'm using controller as syntax with the var self = this; self.myVariableName and I want to setup a $watch is this correct?  inject $scope into the controller then $scope.$watch(function($scope){return $scope.testVar}, function(newValue, oldValue) { localStorage.testVar = $scope.testVar });

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[15:09:07] <TweedleDee> or should it be $scope.$watch(function($scope){return self.testVar}, function(newValue, oldValue) { localStorage.testVar = self.testVar });

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[15:10:19] <htmelvis> Sorry TweedleDee not sure of that one.

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[15:11:17] <SergioFilhow> TweedleDee: have you tried $scope.$watch(self, fn(){}) ?

[15:11:24] <TweedleDee> nope but about to..

[15:11:28] <TweedleDee> neither of mine worked so...

[15:11:30] <TweedleDee> up for anything

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[15:12:07] <TweedleDee> nah didn't work..

[15:12:21] <TweedleDee> this is code, just doesn't fire when self.testVar changes

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[15:12:26] <TweedleDee>  $scope.$watch(function (self) { return self.testVaraible }, function (newValue, oldValue) {

[15:12:26] <TweedleDee>             console.log(self.testVaraible);

[15:12:27] <TweedleDee>             localStorage.testVaraible = self.testVaraible;

[15:12:27] <TweedleDee>         });

[15:12:30] <TweedleDee> oops sorry spam..

[15:12:34] <elmcrest> I thought I can use $rootScope to share some stuff between controllers, isn't that true? in particular I have a window width .on('resize' which I'd like to share to another controller.

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[15:14:16] <incacola> hi

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[15:17:52] <TweedleDee> all be damned if I can figure out a controller as syntax watch lol

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[15:18:35] <sacho> what's there to figure out?

[15:18:42] <htmelvis> haha

[15:19:31] <htmelvis> Anyone run into Sizzle.error on every route change? seems sizzle does not like the AngularJS url fragments

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[15:27:55] <Siecje> When writing end-to-end tests how do you mock object creation?

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[15:30:49] <m8> Hi, there is a way for resolve categories $resource before get_category_by_type call?  http://pastie.org/private/8xtrdl3l7jub7xyuurbg

[15:31:48] <davesidious> hey folks - has anyone seen a filter for pretty-printing XML?

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[15:35:45] <dman777_alter> how can I spy on a object.property with jasmine? For instance, in my service I have disable = { inputLabelBox : false, nodeIpInput: false, checkBox: false}; and I want to say "expect(disable.checkBox).toBe(true);" in my test.

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[15:35:55] <net2014> in angularjs I don't need to do document ready as in JQuery to ensure that my code will run after DOM finished loading?

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[15:45:51] <elmcrest> http://plnkr.co/edit/ephqGM1OiR8zsxApSrkR?p=preview this doesn't work for me - the only difference I could spot was that this plnkr works with angular 1.2.21 - I use 1.3.x  - can maybe somehow have a look? the resize event listener seems not to work - I don't get updated output on resize.

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[15:50:24] <elmcrest> ok nevermind, I didn't realize the directive which has to be add to html ...

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[15:54:40] <jacuqesdancona> So I just received work from some guys with class="{{something}}"

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[15:55:07] <jacuqesdancona> Afaik this is pretty much incorrect

[15:55:10] <jacuqesdancona> because of ng-class

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[15:55:16] <bjorn`_> Is there an easy way to animate the appearance of elements in series? Ie have elements in an ng-each appear after eachother?

[15:55:16] <jacuqesdancona> but why?

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[15:56:16] <ciro_nunes> jacuqesdancona: it's not incorrect, you can use both approaches

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[15:56:40] <jacuqesdancona> does it matter in performance?

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[15:56:47] <jacuqesdancona> I guess they both just set up watchers

[15:57:00] <Helzibah> bjorn`_: I came across an article about that the other day, but only skimmed it so it may not apply: http://www.yearofmoo.com/2013/12/staggering-animations-in-angularjs.html

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[15:57:44] <ciro_nunes> jacuqesdancona: they do. You can use class="{{ ::something }}" for one-way binding

[15:57:53] <jacuqesdancona> allright, thanks

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[15:58:40] <bjorn`_> Helzibah: seems relevant, thanks!

[15:58:49] <jacuqesdancona> First time I've it being used

[15:58:54] <jacuqesdancona> I've seen*

[15:58:56] <ciro_nunes> jacuqesdancona: not one-way binding, what I wanted to say was bind once

[15:59:09] <jacuqesdancona> Yeah, got what you went

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[15:59:32] <jacuqesdancona> meant*

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[16:01:15] <konradsurf> is there an appengine channel?  i'm new to angular but i think i'm having problems to serve the partials with GAE. i am seeing a blank page when trying to show my views. it works when i serve it with webstorm, but not when i server it with App Engine.

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[16:03:18] <konradsurf> i will look for the GAE irc channel. i came here but just realized my server is trying to resolve my partial templates with Jinja (instead of angular).

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[16:04:00] <konradsurf> #appengine

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[16:06:02] <DuelShark> ciro_nunes:  jacuqesdancona i think in IE 8 it doesn't work unless you use ng-class BTW so best not to use class="{{ something }}"

[16:06:17] <jacuqesdancona> good point :)

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[16:06:35] <burzum2> http://plnkr.co/edit/40xoDECCnIB650bj8N0E how can I stop the user from adding more than in this example 10 characters?

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[16:07:32] <dannyc_> i have a form name that is dynamic. something like <ng-form name="myform.{{dynamicName}}>. can i disable the submit button in the view? i've tried? because, of course, ng-disabled isn't going to expect an expression. any help?

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[16:08:07] <ciro_nunes> DuelShark: I don't know if that's true, but 1.3+ isn't supposed to support IE8 whatsoever

[16:08:27] <ciro_nunes> I just checked if ng-class creates a $watcher and it doesn't!

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[16:08:53] <DuelShark> yeah i didn't think of that oops

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[16:09:17] <ciro_nunes> I would prefer ng-class over class="{{}}" anyways (although the syntax)

[16:09:23] <AlexZanf> hey guys is there a package or some documentation on using the repository pattern with caching for angular?

[16:09:26] <Helzibah> yeah, IE8 won't load 1.3+ for me, finds errors in the angular library so I had to downgrade :(

[16:09:34] <Helzibah> ng-class seems to be working though iirc

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[16:14:31] <konradsurf> ok i fixed my problem. my server issue was that jinja threw errors if my top-level html used {{template params}}. moving params into statically served views fixes it.

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[16:26:02] <sonicparke|bradm> morning

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[16:26:17] <sonicparke|bradm> afternoon, whichever is applicable for you.

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[16:29:42] <shackleford> When creating an evaluate statement within an ng-if

[16:29:57] <shackleford> do normal javascript rules apply to == vs ===

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[16:30:46] <shackleford> in terms of coercion?

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[16:36:27] <zfmf> he guys i have a problem on ie8, only one ng-click is called multiple times all others are working normal, anyone an idea what can be the problem here????

[16:36:35] <zfmf> ok also one ng-click is called never :D

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[16:45:32] <net2014> hello, I've been finding out that javascript validation with angulajs is quite compact, readable too

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[16:46:37] <net2014> generally though, with angularjs it seems that you immediately see the js app, but I've been thinking, what if I want to do feature sniffing? If a feature is not present I don't want to see the application

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[16:48:35] <oniijin> put app in a subdirectory?

[16:48:49] <net2014> ah, ok

[16:48:52] <net2014> thanks

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[16:49:46] <net2014> I see an example, and I see there is code in ng-disabled tag: http://www.w3schools.com/angular/tryit.asp?filename=try_ng_validate What I've known so far, was, never put code or functions in tags in javascript

[16:50:11] <net2014> but I see this in angularjs, is it the example that is faulty or is something that is usual in angularjs?

[16:50:28] <oniijin> it's using ng directives

[16:50:30] <oniijin> very normal

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[16:51:30] <nerder> hello, i'm try to have an array of array with this code, but i get an array of object instead, probably because i'm using push in the wrong way

[16:51:38] <nerder> this is my code: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/325b63b1e0eaaf28fc49

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[16:52:12] <nloding> nerder - is an object returned from your $http request?

[16:52:19] <net2014> oniijin: ok, thanks, but why I see an html5 attribute "required" in the input type="text"? That's html5, right? Why would I need that?

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[16:52:44] <net2014> what if my browser is old and doesn't understand required?

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[16:53:58] <oniijin> then u'll need some fallback method to handle it

[16:54:13] <oniijin> tho 1.3 dropped support for ie8

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[16:57:27] <net2014> oniijin: ok

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[16:59:04] <net2014> I will be having server side validation in any case.

[16:59:23] <oniijin> you always should. client side is just to improve UX

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[17:01:55] <net2014> yes, thanks

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[17:02:07] <TweedleDee> Looking for some help persisting state of a bootstrap btn-group here is entire paste-bin to bring you up to speed: http://pastebin.com/TcpvQGLj

[17:02:10] <net2014> bye, have a nice day

[17:02:12] <TweedleDee> the yes will persist, the no.. will not

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[17:03:53] <nerder> nloding: no it's an array, that could be empty

[17:04:44] <nerder> i expect to have something like [ [],[],[] ]

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[17:05:14] <matisoffn> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27085721/angular-datatables-directive-apply-ready-on-promise-return-not-recognizing-a-re

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[17:05:51] <TweedleDee> i fixed my issue

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[17:05:57] <TweedleDee> was stupid lol

[17:06:09] <TweedleDee> making that paste-bin took 10 mins longer than fixing it.. jesus

[17:06:15] <nloding> anyone have any thoughts on my CORS issue?

[17:06:16] <nloding> https://laracasts.com/discuss/channels/requests/laravel-5-cors-headers-with-filters?page=2

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[17:14:24] <zbzzn> Is there a way to check if a directive with isolated scope got anything in the '=' binding?

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[17:14:42] <zbzzn> I mean if it was specified at all by the user

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[17:14:57] <zbzzn> maybe via attributes?

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[17:27:10] <chizbang> Is it possible to enable and disable an ng-model on a checkbox tick?

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[17:30:49] <net2014> hello, in this demo: http://www.w3schools.com/angular/tryit.asp?filename=try_ng_validate if I disable javascript, form goes away, I was thinking that the form would display and if browser supports required, I would see inputs get error message required from html5 if I didn't fill fields on submit

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[17:34:06] <nickeddy> if you disabled javascript?

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[17:34:15] <net2014> nickeddy: yes

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[17:34:25] <nickeddy> i mean you know angular is js...

[17:34:42] <chizbang> Yeah if you disabled Javascript it wont work

[17:34:50] <net2014> yes, but I was hopping there would be some graceful degradation with the validation

[17:34:53] <PercolatorLa> Hello

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[17:35:18] <nickeddy> net2014: see the novalidate attr on the form? that tells the browser not to do its own validation

[17:35:20] <PercolatorLa> Has there been any changes to angulars filter capabilities in ng-repeat?

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[17:36:17] <net2014> nickeddy: ah, ok, I will be trying it without that now

[17:36:32] <PercolatorLa> For some reason they are no longer working in my apps.

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[17:37:53] <nickeddy> net2014: well you need that for the angular validation to happen

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[17:38:02] <Schtive> Hi there I have a quick question about the one day binding. Let's say I have a one way binding on a ng-repeat, do I have to also put the :: inside every {{}} ?

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[17:38:35] <net2014> nickeddy: ok, but why would I want angularjs instead of html5 validation?

[17:38:56] <nickeddy> because html5 validation can't do what angular's validation can do

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[17:39:24] <nickeddy> not sure why you're worrying about people disabling javascript

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[17:39:51] <oniijin> people do that?

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[17:40:14] <nickeddy> only when asking about a js framework

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[17:40:35] <net2014> well, not really worrying, I am just thinking of the various options and try to end up with some solution

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[17:40:51] <nickeddy> various options?

[17:40:57] <oniijin> lol if they're disabling js, what app are they going/expecting to run anyway

[17:41:06] <nickeddy> javascript has to be on for ANY javascript framework, not just angular.

[17:41:14] <nickeddy> lol

[17:41:22] <net2014> yes, you can do very nice javascript like validation in e.g. laravel, the effect is almost identical

[17:41:34] <oniijin> ew php

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[17:42:51] <nickeddy> yeah that's called server side form validation

[17:43:07] <PercolatorLa> Does anyone know if using filters in ng-repeat has changes recently?

[17:43:19] <nickeddy> PercolatorLa: have you moved from 1.2.x to 1.3.x?

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[17:43:22] <net2014> but yes, that's what I believe too, who is going to disable javascript

[17:43:29] <nickeddy> probably some changes there

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[17:43:52] <PercolatorLa> Nick: Not sure since I am using ionic framework and it takes care of all that.

[17:43:52] <net2014> nickeddy: yes, but on the eye is really quite identical, unless you notice the browser's icon indicating a write trip to the server

[17:44:39] <PercolatorLa> It was working just fine then now I come back and it no longer works.

[17:44:41] <nickeddy> PercolatorLa: they may have updated... here let me get you the changelog

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[17:45:48] <nickeddy> PercolatorLa: https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/migration

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[17:46:26] <nickeddy> net2014: i still don't know what point you're trying to make

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[17:47:13] <net2014> nickeddy: well, javascript validation is quite common, but if you want you can just redirect to fom on errors and display the errors next the fields

[17:47:25] <areologist> http://www.fse.guru/2-years-with-angular

[17:47:32] <net2014> I was saying that was another option

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[17:47:52] <nickeddy> net2014: angular is a SPA, i don't really cater to edge cases like that

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[17:48:09] <nerder> anybody can help me with this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/325b63b1e0eaaf28fc49

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[17:48:32] <net2014> ok

[17:48:36] <nerder> my problem is that i get back an array of object intead of an array of array

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[17:49:06] <net2014> I just noticed that angular can do very nice javascript validation

[17:49:14] <net2014> the code is very readable and compact

[17:49:34] <nickeddy> nerder: why are you wrapping the $http in a promise? just do return $http.post().then(function(response) { return response; });

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[17:49:59] <nickeddy> nerder: $http already returns promises

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[17:50:29] <net2014> thanks

[17:50:30] <nerder> nickeddy: i did that cause i need to use $q.all()

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[17:50:47] <nickeddy> nerder: you can still do that with a list of $http promises

[17:50:54] <nickeddy> no need to re-wrap in a promise

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[17:51:31] <nerder> ok i should refactor my code, but i guess that my problem is not there

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[17:52:04] <nerder> this is just an "pre-alpha" version, and it's my first time with angular, so i'm sorry in advance for every "stupid" thing i did xD

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[17:52:30] <nickeddy> we all have to start somewhere :)

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[17:53:26] <nerder> anyway i think that the problem could be this.push()

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[17:53:41] <nickeddy> oh yeah

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[17:53:50] <nickeddy> do $scope.warnings.push

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[17:53:58] <nickeddy> no need to pass in $scope.warnings as the context

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[17:54:06] <nerder> but i dnt know how to use in other way

[17:54:40] <nickeddy> $scope.warnings = []; angular.forEach(things, function(thing) { $scope.warnings.push(doStuffWithThing(thing)); }

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[17:55:09] <Schtive> So, anyone know? If I'm using the ::one-way-binding on a ng-repeat, do I have to also put the :: inside every {{}} also?

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[17:55:41] <nickeddy> Schtive: yeah i think you have to anyways

[17:55:50] <nerder> nickeddy: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cb08f60ab8a607b534af like this?

[17:56:02] <Schtive> Thank you!

[17:56:15] <nickeddy> nerder: do you know how angular.forEach works?

[17:56:48] <nickeddy> areologist: ah yes, i totally trust some random dude to judge what's good for 'professional' web dev

[17:57:07] <nickeddy> nerder: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/function/angular.forEach

[17:57:17] <nerder> i generally know how for each in general

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[17:57:48] <nickeddy> nerder: angular.forEach(items, function(item) {})

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[17:59:01] <maraneta> does anyone here use django rest framework?   i'm querying thousands of objects and it's taking ages to get the data... how can i profile drf/make it faster?

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[17:59:13] <nickeddy> maraneta: yep

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[17:59:16] <nickeddy> maraneta: drf is slow as balls

[17:59:17] <nerder> yeah, items is the "list" item is the iterator right?

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[17:59:30] <nickeddy> nerder: iterator? no, item is an item from that list

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[18:00:02] <nickeddy> nerder: it iterates over the list and passes each item in the list to that iterator fn

[18:00:02] <maraneta> nickeddy: yeah, i'm just using curl to run a get request in my terminal and it takes minutes to get a response

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[18:00:13] <Ragn> Hi, I'm a newbie just getting started with angular (attempting to use the tutorial at angularjs.org). In it, I installed node.js, and cloned the git project. I then ran npm install from the root of the project but got an error message saying ENOGIT is not installed or not in the path.

[18:00:17] <nickeddy> maraneta: what's the query?

[18:00:18] <Ragn> Does anyone know what might be wrong?

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[18:00:54] <nickeddy> Ragn: that sounds like a permission error

[18:00:59] <Ragn> It seems to stop at bower install

[18:01:00] <nickeddy> Ragn: did you try running as sudo ?

[18:01:07] <nerder> ok but you mean that the code i implemented is incorrect?

[18:01:07] <Ragn> Ahh

[18:01:09] <maraneta> nickeddy: is there some way i can change my query to make it faster?   the query is 'Lot.objects.all()', but the serializer adds all of its related objects as well

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[18:01:19] <sime_> I have an array of objects with a day property. How can I order it so the output is ordered in the following order: Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun

[18:01:39] <Ragn> nickeddy, it's most likely my inferior OS, using W7 and powershell (which I can't use git commands from).

[18:01:43] <nickeddy> nerder: i guess if you don't use the item in the function that looks right

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[18:01:53] <nickeddy> Ragn: ah did you open the node.js shell? that's important

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[18:02:10] <maraneta> nickeddy: so i have another model called 'Retain', which points to lots, and i have DRF returning each lot and all the retains that point to each lot... which increases the number of objects returned by a lot

[18:02:13] <areologist> nickeddy: trust is irrelevant, as is the author's alleged randomness.

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[18:02:37] <maraneta> nickeddy: either way it's taking a really long time to get a response, and i'm not too sure how i can speed this up or if it's even possible

[18:02:42] <nickeddy> maraneta: yeah it doesn't do well with lots of nested objects like tyhat, i don't think

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[18:03:03] <Ragn> nickeddy: I have it open, but I did not run any commands in it, I attempted to use npm install but I think it said to run them in my regular shell.

[18:03:07] <nickeddy> maraneta: i'm not sure

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[18:03:19] <nickeddy> Ragn: sec

[18:03:22] <maraneta> nickeddy: hm okay, thanks

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[18:03:39] <nickeddy> Ragn: i think you need node.js command line, not the shell... see if there's that

[18:03:51] <nickeddy> maraneta: google is probably your best bet

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[18:04:53] <nerder> nickeddy: but is still [{},{},{}] so an array that contains object and not an array of arrays as expected

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[18:05:01] <moogey> sime_: run a sort on the array and may the strings to numbers and order off of that?

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[18:05:23] <nickeddy> nerder: what are the objects themselves?

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[18:05:59] <nerder> the $http.post return an array of object

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[18:06:23] <sime_> moogey: I don't follow. My initial thought was the loop the array and add a order property, with zero being Mon

[18:06:28] <nickeddy> nerder: i'm guessing they're the promises, in which case you need to $q.all(promiseList).then(function(res) { })

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[18:06:45] <Ragn> nickeddy: Tried running from the node.js command prompt just now. Got: 'bower install' exit status 1. Failed at the angular-phonecat at 0 dot 0.0 postinstall script.

[18:06:45] <nerder> umm could be actually

[18:06:54] <nerder> you mean in the service right?

[18:07:03] <nickeddy> Ragn: try npm install -g bower and then try that again

[18:07:15] <nickeddy> nerder: no you can do that outside of the service

[18:07:24] <nickeddy> nerder: well or in, i guess it doesn't really matter

[18:07:54] <moogey> sime_: that works too. More or less what I was saying just you're adding the order into the object instead of using an outside reference. Good for it you want to do more than just an initial sort.

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[18:08:36] <sime_> Cheers moogey

[18:09:11] <moogey> sime_: *clinky*

[18:10:00] <Ragn> nickeddy: Thanks for your time. The npm install -g bower command seems to run fine but the other (npm install) still stops with the same message

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[18:11:48] <Ragn> nickeddy: Wait, the message is still bower ENOGIT git is not isntalled or not in the PATH.

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[18:12:03] <Ragn> Might be because I can only run the git command from git bash?

[18:12:10] <areologist> discussion of Alexey's provocative post on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8651641

[18:12:22] <Ragn> And unfortunately: can't run the npm command from the git bash..

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[18:23:04] <nickeddy> Ragn: yeah node.js for windows comes with a git bash sort of thing but with node

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[18:25:32] <matisoffn> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27085721/angular-datatables-directive-apply-ready-on-promise-return-not-recognizing-a-re

[18:27:02] <ctanga> how long has chrome had this feature? http://i.imgur.com/h8SBHhO.png

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[18:28:13] <nickeddy> ctanga: :| idk but that is useful

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[18:28:41] <ctanga> indeed

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[18:41:57] <drej|work> what does timeline look like for angular2? when is it expected to drop *roughly* ?

[18:42:05] <ctanga> 1.5-2 years

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[18:42:52] <ctanga> if you do the math, that’s negative 0.5 years

[18:42:58] <drej|work> neat

[18:43:02] <nickeddy> lol

[18:43:05] <s3shs> :-)

[18:43:12] <drej|work> so im late to the party

[18:43:20] <nickeddy> no you're early!

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[18:44:28] <drej|work> so yeah, end of 2015 is still sort of the timeline?

[18:44:34] <nickeddy> yep

[18:44:42] <nickeddy> at the earliest

[18:45:06] <drej|work> hrm, now to figure out how to delay the client until then

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[18:45:15] <ctanga> hah

[18:45:17] <ctanga> use 1.34

[18:45:20] <ctanga> 1.3

[18:45:26] <nickeddy> ^

[18:45:33] <drej|work> we have a contract that makes it such that we're maintaining this app for 5 years

[18:45:41] <moogey> For as much as everyone was freaking out over the angular2.0 release. I can only imagine how much all frameworks are going to have evolved by the time angular2.0 comes out.

[18:45:42] <ctanga> use 1.3

[18:45:53] <drej|work> i have no problem building it in 1.3 but afraid of future support (or lack thereof)

[18:45:58] <ctanga> use 1.3

[18:46:00] <drej|work> i mean, i dont have a choice anyway

[18:46:02] <drej|work> ctanga:

[18:46:03] <ctanga> ;)

[18:46:05] <drej|work> jesus

[18:46:07] <drej|work> :)

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[18:46:10] <nickeddy> 1.3 will be supported 18-24 months after 2.0 release

[18:46:13] <nickeddy> so yeah

[18:46:32] <drej|work> but i want my thing that i build today to transcend all technological advances for 5+ years

[18:46:35] <drej|work> is that so much to ask for?

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[18:46:39] <nickeddy> lol

[18:46:41] <nickeddy> on the web, yes

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[18:46:44] <drej|work> :)

[18:46:49] <TweedleDee> can you put an ng-click on a span tag?

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[18:46:58] <ctanga> tweedle sure

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[18:47:01] <drej|work> TweedleDee: you can put it on any element in the dom

[18:47:04] <nickeddy> https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngClick

[18:47:04] <TweedleDee> alright cool didnt try..

[18:47:10] <nickeddy> rtfd

[18:47:11] <ctanga> O_o

[18:47:13] <TweedleDee> smfd

[18:47:17] <drej|work> nickeddy: yup because angular docs are soooooo good :)

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[18:47:31] <nickeddy> they are pretty decent and answer his question

[18:47:31] <drej|work> TweedleDee: be nice

[18:47:35] <TweedleDee> ;)

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[18:47:47] <drej|work> nickeddy: the ui utils docs totally made me want to punch a small puppy in the face a couple weeks ago

[18:47:51] <drej|work> w/ masking/validation

[18:47:51] <nickeddy> USAGE: <ANY ng-click="" ...></ANY>

[18:47:54] <drej|work> that sso badly documented

[18:48:04] <TweedleDee> wasn't always that way I'm 80% sure

[18:48:05] <drej|work> i know its not the same thing

[18:48:08] <drej|work> just saying

[18:48:11] <drej|work> TweedleDee: it sure was :0

[18:48:13] <nickeddy> it was.

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[18:48:21] <TweedleDee> oh, then I'll take my foot outa my mouth

[18:48:21] <ctanga> TweedleDwas

[18:48:24] <drej|work> a span is an element just like any element, that never changed

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[18:48:37] <s3shs> The talk of react is exhausting.  The idea of writing all my HTML in script tags is ridiculous.  Ember tried that.  It was awful... with another language on top to boot.

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[18:49:07] <ctanga> frameworks that invent new languages are useless

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[18:49:24] <s3shs> I know, right?

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[18:49:27] <ctanga> ¬_¬

[18:49:28] <nickeddy> oh you mean view shouldn't be non-html screwy jsx?

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[18:49:39] <nickeddy> :P

[18:50:00] <nickeddy> ctanga: saw the 0.2.13 release, how's that going?

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[18:50:17] <ctanga> nickeddy: good, only one new bug reported (and fixed)

[18:50:24] <nickeddy> nice

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[18:50:39] <ctanga> next up is strict type validation

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[18:50:49] <s3shs> How is React binding changes?

[18:51:10] <nickeddy> they "don't have an event loop" but they do

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[18:51:35] <ctanga> AFAIK it’s a pipeline of data changes.  each change pushed into the pipeline causes the entire subtree to re-render to shadow dom, then they diff the shadow dom with the dom and push any updated pieces

[18:52:03] <GreenJello> s3shs, you mean how does it know when an input changes?

[18:52:04] <ctanga> sound right?

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[18:52:15] <GreenJello> there's no two way binding if that's what you mean

[18:52:17] <s3shs> Sounds like it may work.  Until it doesn't.  ;-)

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[18:52:27] <s3shs> GreenJello, yeah.

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[18:52:46] <GreenJello> it uses event delegation

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[18:52:57] <s3shs> Isn't there object.observe coming soon?  (or something?)

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[18:53:12] <GreenJello> just puts a change listener on window, and then propagates events through the components

[18:53:18] <ctanga> I can’t believe those react sneetches wear stars on their bellies ಠ_ಠ

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[18:53:37] <nickeddy> ctanga: english?

[18:53:44] <GreenJello> some browsers already support Object.observe

[18:53:58] <s3shs> Yeah, chrome experimental or something.

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[18:54:08] <GreenJello> you can use it in chrome stable

[18:54:17] <ctanga> nickeddy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sneetches_and_Other_Stories

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[18:54:58] <nickeddy> ctanga: haha i still don't know what you're talking about

[18:55:51] <ctanga> nickeddy: hah, it’s a tongue-in-cheek reference to the suess story, implying maybe react has an OK approach, although it’s different from our superheroic framework’s approach

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[18:56:14] <ctanga> didn’t read dr suess as a kid?

[18:56:23] <nickeddy> it's been awhile

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[18:56:31] <nickeddy> :P

[18:56:39] <ctanga> here ya go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLPe7XjdKc :)

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[18:57:26] <nickeddy> have you used slush at all?

[18:57:31] <ctanga> no

[18:57:34] <ctanga> whassat

[18:57:39] <nickeddy> https://github.com/slushjs/slush

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[18:57:48] <nickeddy> thinking about using it to make a slush generator for my team

[18:57:55] <ctanga> interesting

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[18:58:01] <nickeddy> like yeoman but uses gulp instead

[18:58:30] <areologist> JSX is optional, kind of like AtScript

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[18:59:22] <ctanga> I wouldn’t want to NOT use JSX though, from what I’ve seen

[18:59:42] <nickeddy> "optional"

[18:59:44] <areologist> probably true. I've not done anything serious with react yet so I dunno

[18:59:54] <s3shs> So long as I can debug through it with the debugger I don't care about jsx, etc.

[19:00:06] <s3shs> Unfortunately I suspect that's not the case.

[19:00:13] <matisoffn> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27085721/angular-datatables-directive-apply-ready-on-promise-return-not-recognizing-a-re

[19:00:14] <areologist> I'm stoked about ng 2.0 more than anything.

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[19:00:19] <moogey> I've heard around that some people who don't want to use JSX can get by if their already using coffeescript, without wanting to rip out their hair

[19:00:36] <nickeddy> coffescript makes me want to rip out my hair though... :(

[19:00:43] <moogey> areologist: agreed. I wish they had waited so I didn't have to wait so long to use it

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[19:00:52] <snapwich> coffeescript is awful

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[19:00:56] <moogey> nickeddy: *same*

[19:01:08] <s3shs> All I really want from JS is co-routines.

[19:01:10] <SergioFilhow> how can I add an eventlistener to be called only once in angularjs?

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[19:01:40] <moogey> s3shs: different from webworkers?

[19:01:45] <nickeddy> snapwich+

[19:01:47] <nickeddy> snapwich++

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[19:01:49] <UniBot> snapwich Karma: 2

[19:01:57] <snapwich> oh yes, sweet karma

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[19:02:09] <s3shs> Seriously?  coroutines have been around for 25 years and they had to rename them?

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[19:02:31] <snapwich> i can see the benefit behind something like typescript though.  coffee script, not as much

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[19:02:53] <nickeddy> yeah i don't mind something like type/atscript as long as stuff like arrow fns are optional

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[19:03:05] <nickeddy> that syntax is acid for my eyeballs

[19:03:11] <AciD`> \o/

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[19:03:22] <nickeddy> yes, it's you for my eyeballs

[19:03:24] <nickeddy> ;(

[19:03:36] <areologist> One thing I'm dying to see is the 1.3 port of the 2.0 router. The departure of Eisenberg, who was the main author, makes me worry about it.

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[19:03:57] <snapwich> when people put javascript answers in coffeescript on stackoverflow and stuff.  oh THANKS, now I have to transpile your answer for no good reason

[19:03:59] <ctanga> Frankly, I’m not too impressed with the 2.0 router

[19:03:59] <moogey> I don't remember seeing anything about the 2.0 router

[19:04:02] <nickeddy> ui-router 1.0

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[19:04:41] <areologist> ctanga: what's the story? why u no impressed?

[19:04:43] <moogey> snapwich: just an excuse so they can get points for editing it back to js

[19:05:07] <Soop> Hey does anyone know how one could add user roles to a satellizer JWT

[19:05:14] <ctanga> areologist: it doesn’t bring much beyond what ui-router has done

[19:05:33] <ctanga> one exception is the re-usable component structure for routes, which ui-router lacks

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[19:06:09] <areologist> the component structure, pipeline architecture, etc. plus borrowing good ideas from durandal's router and ui-router

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[19:06:33] <areologist> I dunno. I haven't seen any code, or anything in action, just have an impression based on the router talk at ng-europe

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[19:06:56] <ctanga> you can see the code, it’s on github

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[19:07:18] <ctanga> The pipeline architecture is nice

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[19:07:37] <ctanga> which is why I implemented one in ui-router before I learned about the 2.0 architecture

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[19:08:52] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 5c43b94 to b5fbd6a: http://git.io/Otb10g

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[19:09:30] <ish> Did ng-repeat="(key, val) in model.someObject" break in 1.3?

[19:09:54] <ctanga> ish: don’t think so; did you check the changelog for breaking change?

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[19:09:55] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from b5fbd6a to 93552fe: http://git.io/faOrpQ

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[19:11:02] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 93552fe to 891acf4: http://git.io/CUL42g

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[19:11:33] <snapwich> can you use the bind-once syntax for something like ng-style?

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[19:12:03] <jaydubya> ctanga: do you use gulp-concat to "autoload" your scripts or do you have the 12,681 script tags in index.html?

[19:12:04] <ctanga> snapwich: it’s implemented at the expression level, so yes

[19:12:10] <snapwich> cool

[19:12:11] <snapwich> thanks

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[19:12:17] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 891acf4 to 5c1fdff: http://git.io/XRu4Tw

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[19:12:34] <ctanga> I don’t concat/minify at the moment

[19:12:47] <ctanga> that doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t, though

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[19:13:32] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 5c1fdff to 92f87b1: http://git.io/a-CJAg

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[19:14:53] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 92f87b1 to 00b623e: http://git.io/uyTEdA

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[19:15:04] <chizbang> How do I get a ng model or ng-bind to enable and disable on demand

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[19:15:10] <areologist> ctanga: are you a ui-router contributor? just curious.

[19:15:17] <ctanga> areologist: i am

[19:15:31] <nickeddy> maintainer

[19:15:37] <jaydubya> guru

[19:15:42] <nickeddy> kool-aid

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[19:15:58] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 00b623e to 7812dfc: http://git.io/cpsAFg

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[19:16:15] <areologist> ctanga: props

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[19:16:56] <jaydubya> nickeddy: spent the weekend with your gulpfile ... I understand at least 40% of it now

[19:17:08] <nickeddy> me too

[19:17:09] <ctanga> free gulpfiles?!

[19:17:13] <nickeddy> nah jk :P

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[19:17:15] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 7812dfc to 764fa86: http://git.io/iTIZVg

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[19:17:30] <nickeddy> jaydubya: any questions feel free to ask

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[19:17:52] <jaydubya> nickeddy: I am curious ... how do you start a new project ... bower, a repo or what?

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[19:18:05] <ctanga> notepad index.html

[19:18:06] <ctanga> ;)

[19:18:07] <nickeddy> oh i don't have that written yet

[19:18:14] <nickeddy> at the moment it's manual

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[19:18:27] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 764fa86 to 6dbd606: http://git.io/9f_ZAw

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[19:18:29] <nickeddy> but i am going to be writing another gulpfile for that

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[19:18:52] <jaydubya> nickeddy: cool, I'd love to see it and understand at least 25% of that too

[19:19:23] <nickeddy> i'll let you know when i'm done, maybe end of the week, probably not though since it's a short week :P

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[19:19:30] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 6dbd606 to bb4d3b7: http://git.io/SfbRQw

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[19:19:46] <Foxandxss> gulp is not that hard to understand on its basics

[19:19:53] <jaydubya> I watched a Refactor: video on Egghead and absolutely loved his project set up including testing, coverage, etc ... I want to build a seed like that

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[19:19:57] <Foxandxss> but advanced stuff is hard

[19:20:18] <s3shs> Gulp is actually wonderfully simple.

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[19:20:20] <nickeddy> jaydubya: yeah essentially i'll be making a yeoman generator but with slush which uses gulp

[19:20:36] <nickeddy> jaydubya: it will simplify a lot of that

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[19:20:40] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from bb4d3b7 to aa01be8: http://git.io/cjH3vw

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[19:21:15] <s3shs> nickeddy, it's sentences like that that if you had said them 10 years ago you would have been locked up for reasons of insanity.  ;-)

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[19:21:44] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from aa01be8 to 3109342: http://git.io/iuFBPw

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[19:21:44] <nickeddy> s3shs: slush the gulp yeoman bower npm install

[19:21:58] <drej|work> aaand 400 megs of build tools later

[19:21:59] <nickeddy> OH GOD IM CRAZY

[19:22:00] <s3shs> In front of children no less!

[19:22:05] <drej|work> you get index.html and main.sass

[19:22:16] <ctanga> what do you guys think of this at the top of a template: <div ng-init="ui = releaseCtrl.ui”>,  where releaseCtrl is my controllerAs?

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[19:22:21] <nickeddy> nah drej|work only like 30kb

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[19:22:36] <drej|work> i doubt it

[19:22:40] <drej|work> just a basic yo webapp

[19:22:46] <drej|work> creates like 350 megs of dependencies

[19:22:48] <s3shs> ctanga, trying to shorten things?

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[19:22:52] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 3109342 to 920b595: http://git.io/z6SIMg

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[19:22:52] <ctanga> in order to reduce variable references like this:  <td colspan="releaseCtrl.ui.getVisibleColumns().length"

[19:22:54] <oniijin> lol the gulp ng gen i tried was like 300mb

[19:22:55] <ctanga> s3shs: yeah

[19:23:00] <nickeddy> drej|work: well yo is crap, hence slush

[19:23:07] <s3shs> It's kind of like assigning a service to a scope.  I kind of like it.

[19:23:15] <s3shs> ^ ctanga

[19:23:17] <nickeddy> ctanga: but more dots man...

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[19:23:34] <s3shs> Don't we all get paid by the dot?

[19:23:41] <ctanga> the idea is that it would be a pattern that my templates all use

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[19:23:52] <s3shs> ctanga, so long as you're consistent.

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[19:23:54] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 920b595 to a3d7977: http://git.io/4ca2-w

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[19:23:59] <ctanga> the short name ‘ui’ would be only for that template

[19:24:03] <s3shs> However, why not do it in the first line of the controller?

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[19:24:08] <ctanga> and it would be pulled off the controller

[19:24:10] <s3shs> Oh, for that template.

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[19:24:28] <ctanga> if I do it in the controller, then I have to inject $scope

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[19:24:53] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from a3d7977 to 3be6835: http://git.io/LjbFGA

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[19:25:00] <s3shs> I tend to avoid init code in my templates unless I've got a really good reason.  I dislike having to look in two places for code.  (template + js)

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[19:25:14] <ctanga> otherwise my template is utterly littered with “releaseCtrl.something.somethingelse"

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[19:25:23] <ctanga> and it looks fugly

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[19:25:46] <jaydubya> wondering ... who uses classic controller syntax and who uses controller as?

[19:25:47] <s3shs> Mmm.

[19:25:56] <s3shs> I'm still classic because my app is old.

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[19:25:59] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 3be6835 to 7a37469: http://git.io/VT92aQ

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[19:26:04] <ctanga> “old” jaha

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[19:26:23] <s3shs> I need to move to controller-as and ng-annotate.  My goals before the end of the year.

[19:26:36] <ctanga> I’m continuing development on a product I started writing in 2001

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[19:26:47] <s3shs> fsdo "old"

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[19:27:07] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 7a37469 to e9b9421: http://git.io/pKeWFg

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[19:27:08] <nickeddy> s3shs: ng-annotate?

[19:27:14] <nickeddy> you mean proper di syntax?

[19:27:27] <jaydubya> I just took the Joe Papa Clean Code course on Pluralsite and he was pushing Controller As pretty hard but I didn't see the pros and cons

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[19:27:34] <zilla_> what is ng-annotate?

[19:27:37] <areologist> controllerAs is nice.

[19:27:40] <ctanga> and now that 13 year old web app is getting replaced by angular bits by bits

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[19:27:44] <areologist> ng-annotate = successor to ngMin

[19:27:53] <moogey> I'm in the weird inbetween stage where part of my app is transitioned

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[19:28:02] <ish> jaydubya: I've converted some of my smaller controllers to controllerAs, and all new ones are.  But my app isn't very big.

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[19:28:07] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from e9b9421 to 7496e8e: http://git.io/ngbmlA

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[19:28:08] <nickeddy> zilla_: it makes it so your angular app's DI syntax doesn't break during minification

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[19:28:27] <zilla_> can we write angular expression in ng-model???

[19:28:49] <nickeddy> zilla_: http://mattgemmell.com/what-have-you-tried/

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[19:28:57] <zilla_> thanks nickeddy

[19:28:58] <areologist> also check out the ng-strict-di directive in 1.3

[19:28:59] <jaydubya> anyone know if the dreaded Angular 2.0 will advocate controller as?

[19:29:05] <nickeddy> don't thank me yet

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[19:29:08] <ctanga> heh.

[19:29:14] <Foxandxss> jaydubya: angular 2 will be real different

[19:29:18] <Foxandxss> REAL different

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[19:29:29] <Foxandxss> did I say real?

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[19:29:33] <Foxandxss> I meant real

[19:29:40] <ctanga> angular 2.0 will take controllerAs to a whole new level

[19:29:53] <zomg> would you say it will take it.. up to 11?

[19:30:00] <ctanga> :)

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[19:30:05] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from addb4bd to 4644c58: http://git.io/Ys0DTA

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[19:30:48] <areologist> actually, 1.3 changes address a good chunk of the criticisms in that blog post I shared above. The thing trending on HN atm.

[19:30:50] <jaydubya> so my losing $scope would be an investment in the future ... he's kinda a friend right now as I am learning this stuff but I really like the look of Papa's code

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[19:31:06] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 4644c58 to 40406e2: http://git.io/U2qhuQ

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[19:31:23] <jaydubya> and heaven knows I NEED to clean up code

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[19:32:02] <ctanga> yeah drop $scope

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[19:32:06] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 40406e2 to 8692f87: http://git.io/SQpYnQ

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[19:32:17] <ctanga> areologist: which article?

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[19:32:42] <moogey> Does controllerAs inheritance work the same similar to $scope

[19:33:00] <areologist> ctanga: the blog post shared here, plus a set of 6 short posts the guy links internally: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8651641

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[19:33:06] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 8692f87 to 42d09f1: http://git.io/dHxtuw

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[19:33:11] <ctanga> oh yeah

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[19:33:51] <MrWreck> hi

[19:34:12] <jaydubya> areologist: last week we were talking about testing in Angular and the seeming lack of tutorial support for it

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[19:34:13] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 42d09f1 to 8ee8ffe: http://git.io/OUm_3g

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[19:34:13] <ctanga> hi!

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[19:34:26] <matisoffn> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27085721/angular-datatables-directive-apply-ready-on-promise-return-not-recognizing-a-re

[19:34:32] <areologist> good news for this guy: one-way bindings, coalesce $httpProvider responses, also applyAsync on $rootScope, toggling debug info, ngModelOptions...

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[19:34:44] <MrWreck> I am fairly new to angular and I am building a school project in it. I was wondering if someone might be able to answer quick (hopefully quick) question for me

[19:34:56] <MrWreck> I am trying to post to a json file but nothing is working

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[19:35:09] <nickeddy> so long as the question isn't "can you do my homework for me?"

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[19:35:12] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross merged master into g3_v1_3: http://git.io/1ZW6kg

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[19:35:28] <areologist> jaydubya: i remember that. In the software dev world I'm familiar with everything is TDD so yeah, testing seems to get lip service but not much demonstration in angular tutorials

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[19:36:19] <MrWreck> The project is a fully functioning website so this isnt the assignment

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[19:36:26] <MrWreck> we just want to store some data in a json

[19:36:31] <jaydubya> areologist: yesterday I watched a four video series on Egghead called Refactor: that showed testing guided refactoring that was GREAT (if you are a PRO member there)

[19:36:57] <areologist> jaydubya: sh*t. I pay on pluralsight, not egghead. that sounds fantastic though.

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[19:37:26] <areologist> might have to suspend my pluralsight for a month and do a month of egghead instead

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[19:38:12] <jaydubya> I do Laracasts and Egghead and get PluralSight through work

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[19:38:44] <areologist> dang. I want that.

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[19:39:02] <areologist> which do you think is best?

[19:39:07] <areologist> I've not tried laracasts

[19:39:19] <jaydubya> areologist: Apples Oranges and Grapes

[19:39:26] <areologist> figures

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[19:40:47] <wafflej0ck_> they should join up and make fruit salad

[19:40:48] <wafflej0ck_> mmm

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[19:41:35] <jaydubya> Laracast is extremely opinionated but offers GREAT insight into the server-side world of Laravel; Egghead has good and bad on Angular and D3; and PluralSight has good courses but too much Windows (Microsoft) Friendly for my taste

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[19:42:54] <Sijdesign> Hey guys,

[19:43:00] <areologist> I do a ton of MS stuff so pluralsight makes sense. Looking at Laracast now and I like that it has a bit of software craftsmanship flavor.

[19:43:04] <jaydubya> areologist: you are Ruby, right?

[19:43:23] <Sijdesign> http://laravel.io/bin/yGQoR can some one see how i get a good object output and not object object

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[19:44:25] <TheWhiteOx> Anybody know the ETA on Angular 2.0?

[19:44:31] <areologist> jaydubya: C# has been my main language since 2002, or so, do a little Ruby here and there. Been moving more toward front-end dev and SPAs in recent years.

[19:44:38] <nickeddy> TheWhiteOx: end of 2015 earliest

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[19:45:07] <Sijdesign> nickeddy can you help me

[19:45:31] <TheWhiteOx> Yikes icic

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[19:45:53] <lrvick> Anyone know a way to specify a route in routeProvider that will skip history?

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[19:46:02] <nickeddy> Sijdesign: with what

[19:46:07] <TheWhiteOx> If I have no experience with Anguluar would it be wise to put off learning ANgular when 2.0 comes out? Or will learning the current Angular help with learning 2.0?

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[19:46:08] <Sijdesign> nickeddy http://laravel.io/bin/yGQoR can some one see how i get a good object output and not object object

[19:46:09] <areologist> The browser platform has been getting really good. It's fun to develop in the browser now, used to prefer the server and avoid the browser as much as possible.

[19:46:24] <moogey> Irvick: I think i remember reading something about a .replace()

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[19:46:48] <areologist> jaydubya: what do you program in mainly?

[19:46:50] <nickeddy> Sijdesign: that just means you're passing in a user to the createUser function..

[19:46:55] <nickeddy> Sijdesign: err object*

[19:47:13] <jaydubya> areologist: same here but I was CodeIgniter ... if it couldn't be done serverside with a few strands of copied jQuery, it wasn't worth doing

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[19:47:29] <marshall___> hey ng

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[19:47:56] <wafflej0ck_> TheWhiteOx: if you've never worked with some client side MV* framework or bindings it's worth learning just for that 2.0 is mostly still unknown and going to be a long work in progress I've heard

[19:47:57] <jaydubya> areologist: but I am now on Step 10 and use Laravel as an API providers and Angular as the front end

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[19:48:25] <Sijdesign> nickeddy its just because my laravel cant grab the Input::get('firstname') etc.

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[19:48:50] <nickeddy> i don't know what that means

[19:49:19] <TheWhiteOx> ahh thanks for the suggestion

[19:49:20] <jaydubya> Input::get( ['firstname'] ) you mean? Get takes a null or an array

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[19:49:35] <Sijdesign> it says null jaydubya

[19:49:46] <areologist> Laravel looks like fun too. PHP has changes so much since the last time I dabbled in it (~2007)

[19:50:01] <Sijdesign> jaydubya http://cl.ly/image/0b3w3S0A0g3Q

[19:50:04] <jaydubya> Sijdesign: but you are passing in a string

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[19:50:21] <marshall> i'm working on a hybrid angular app. it has an unordered list element that's populated on the server-side that needs to be cleared out and populated on the clientside by angular. what's the best way to do this?

[19:50:37] <Sijdesign> jaydubya hmm

[19:50:38] <areologist> nickeddy: throwing up at php by chance? :-D

[19:50:49] <nickeddy> yes, what else?

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[19:51:01] <areologist> haha

[19:51:01] <jaydubya> Sijdesign: are you getting or putting?

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[19:51:06] <nickeddy> marshall: i'd make that list element population in to a restful api

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[19:51:18] <Sijdesign> im trying to create a new user in the DB

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[19:51:25] <Sijdesign> i have ng-model="user.firstname" etc.

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[19:51:29] <Sijdesign> on my inputs

[19:51:48] <wafflej0ck_> Sijdesign: check the network panel look at the request body to be sure it has the appropriate payload

[19:51:51] <marshall> nickeddy: i want the element and it's children to be available on first-load so that search engines will see it

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[19:52:02] <Sijdesign> http://laravel.io/bin/kWor0

[19:52:05] <jaydubya> Sijdesign: that error says you can't insert a null but above, you were using get in a query ... I'm confused

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[19:52:19] <wafflej0ck_> marshall: check out prerender.io it's for solving the SEO issue and is open source if you don't want to pay for SaaS

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[19:53:44] <Sijdesign> jaydubya im a little bit confused too :D

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[19:54:04] <nairys> has anyone used ngGrid or uiGrid and tried listening for the beginCellEdit event?

[19:54:10] <snurfery> sup yall

[19:54:18] <wafflej0ck_> hiya snurfery

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[19:55:46] <moogey> nairys: not yet. But hoping to go there next to get rid of having to work with jquery.datatables

[19:55:50] <jaydubya> Sijdesign: this is my Laravel controller to save a user https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b903e7e4f3c297454df9

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[19:56:31] <ingsoc> anyone using angular material in production yet ?

[19:56:42] <Sijdesign> jaydubya what function do you use for logging the user in then?

[19:56:46] <ingsoc> just be good to hear some feedback

[19:56:47] <jaydubya> Sijdesign: and my Users service in Angular  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0c4a83a91184519a653e

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[19:57:24] <nairys> moogey i was trying out angular-datatables a couple weeks ago

[19:57:40] <nairys> it's a nice angular layer on top of datatables

[19:57:43] <jaydubya> Sijdesign: I use this SessionsController for that  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0a196fc3ec953e36c094

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[19:58:20] <jaydubya> Sijdesign: do you subscribe to Laracasts?

[19:58:25] <moogey> nairys: I guess I should try that first. We have a guy who wrote a django package that works with datatables, and we haven't tried to shoehorn angular into it yet

[19:58:25] <areologist> This is encouraging after reading so many critical comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8652617

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[19:58:57] <nickeddy> areologist: why do you keep posting about that?

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[19:59:09] <nickeddy> areologist: that original article is FUD

[19:59:23] <areologist> It's an interesting discussion.

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[19:59:37] <areologist> I like to hear differnet views on angular, and ppl's experiences

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[19:59:49] <nickeddy> not really, when the source for why angular is "bad" is the guy's own 8 part series on why angular is bad

[19:59:57] <nickeddy> and those articles are trash in and of themselves

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[20:00:19] <areologist> I thought it contained some valid concerns, some of which are addressed in 1.3 and other in 2.0

[20:00:21] <seiyria> hey, has anyone here worked on angular-strap before that could help me out a bit?

[20:00:34] <seiyria> (worked on, not with, to be clear)

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[20:00:40] <areologist> but yeah, it wasn't backed up with data or anything, it was a guy spouting off, I'll grant that

[20:01:02] <nickeddy> most complaints i've ever seen are when a. people are trying to use angular where it doesn't belong or b. they haven't actually used angular on a large web app that's living in production

[20:01:04] <areologist> I wasn't sharing it as *truth*, just as a fun thing

[20:01:30] <nairys> it's not really a helpful comment

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[20:01:43] <nairys> spouting numbers doesn't prove anything

[20:02:08] <TheWhiteOx> Hmmm when is ES6 supposed to be released?

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[20:02:19] <nickeddy> areologist: well linking to an article about "why angular is bad" doesn't help anyone

[20:02:24] <Sijdesign> jaydubya yes i subscribe to laracasts :D

[20:02:33] <nairys> unless you still believe in LOC as a metric for your coding skills

[20:02:58] <nickeddy> nairys: indeed the most useless metric of all

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[20:04:52] <areologist> I like things that criticize stuff that I am biased toward. Helps me notice loss aversion, sunk cost, framing effects, and other manifestations of compromised decision making.

[20:05:31] <nickeddy> fair enough, but not when the person being critical of it doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about

[20:05:36] <nairys> i guess i just don't see how the comment you pasted helps avoid any of those. all he did was state numbers

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[20:06:03] <areologist> In the case of the article, and ycombinator comments, I've found myself reflecting upon best practices and how to leverage new 1.3 features.

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[20:06:10] <nickeddy> i'll state again: library size (in kB, LoC, whatever) is such a shit metric

[20:06:34] <nairys> ok well i'm glad you've managed to take some positive away from it

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[20:06:48] <wafflej0ck_> yeah 50,000,000+ LOC can't seem to make Windows worth using :P that said I think it's always good to look at the other side to avoid the echo chamber

[20:06:51] <nairys> just don't be surprised if not everyone else has the same reaction

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[20:08:13] <devinandrews> Would anyone know why my service wouldn't be updating, until I call another service? Sounds like some sort of weird service digest thing...

[20:08:16] <areologist> I would care about LoC and library size for different reasons. Neither measure how good or bad a library is.

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[20:08:49] <areologist> I'd care more about the performance characteristics of a library in a particular application

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[20:09:06] <nairys> i say let's move on

[20:09:09] <areologist> a *lot* more

[20:10:01] <jaydubya> Sijdesign, Jeffrey takes you through those steps in "From Install through Registration" and then shows how to get Angular involved in "Laravel and Angular"

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[20:11:54] <Foxandxss> areologist: all you say lately is how problematic 2.0 is going to be and posting bad articles

[20:11:57] <Foxandxss> that doesn't help heh

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[20:14:32] <seiyria> hey guys, I found a file in ng-strap called bower_components that has ./../bower_components as its only contents. it looks like a symlink from linux. is that what it is?

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[20:15:41] <nairys> has anyone successfully built a custom cellTemplate for uiGrid?

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[20:16:27] <ish> Is it bad form to expose a service (say with utility text rendering functions) on your $scope (or this/vm) for use in your templates?

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[20:16:54] <ish> I've even found myself exposing _ (lodash) on my scope.

[20:17:09] <Foxandxss> I wouldn't expose lodash to the template

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[20:17:18] <Foxandxss> templates are not for logic

[20:17:25] <Foxandxss> logic belongs to other places, but not view

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[20:18:14] <ish> its actually for an ng-repeat filter for an object instead of an array.  But perhaps I should wrap that in a method of the controller.

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[20:19:18] <seiyria> I used lodash in a template to do _.isEmpty()

[20:19:22] <seiyria> I

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[20:19:34] <seiyria> I'm not going to wrap _.isEmpty just so I don't expose lodash to my template

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[20:23:13] <matisoffn> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27085721/angular-datatables-directive-apply-ready-on-promise-return-not-recognizing-a-re

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[20:23:39] <wafflej0ck> seiyria: someone actually did this https://github.com/cabrel/angular-lodash haven't used it myself but does seem somewhat handy

[20:23:58] <seiyria> that's neat

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[20:24:15] <seiyria> I would use that

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[20:24:56] <areologist> Foxandxss: that's wrong. I say lots of stuff, only good things about ng 2.0, and only shared one critical article. Is this the inquisition?

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[20:32:43] <nairys> oh my god drop it please

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[20:34:02] <Foxandxss> areologist: good

[20:34:20] <Foxandxss> nairys: I can't, I need to maintain the channel well behaved

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[20:35:29] <nickeddy> well posting articles that literally say angular is bad i wouldn't call "critical" given he doesn't even point to what's "good"

[20:35:31] <jaawerth> it's just too early to react to angular 2.0 stuff with anything other than, "oh, that's interesting." too much is still yet to be determined

[20:35:37] <nickeddy> but that's just me

[20:36:08] <jaawerth> that's my take on it, anyway

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[20:36:17] <nairys> this 2.0 meta conversation is not helpful for anyone right now

[20:36:21] <areologist> jaawerth: that's basically how I feel about it, except that some things that I've learned about 2.0 are exciting and address and/or negate pain points of 1.x

[20:36:40] <Foxandxss> nairys: I agree, that is why I ask people to stop

[20:37:02] <ish> is there a preference to stick to just one of factory or service?

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[20:37:38] <jaawerth> not really. I tend to use factories over services just because a factory lets you do more to configure your service

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[20:37:54] <nickeddy> i thought services did more than factories?

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[20:37:59] <Foxandxss> ish: as jaawerth said, personal preference

[20:38:07] <Foxandxss> nickeddy: a service is a factory

[20:38:08] <Foxandxss> :P

[20:38:13] <nickeddy> i know

[20:38:17] <nickeddy> providers, providers everywhere

[20:38:36] <jaawerth> a service is literally just a factory that invokes "new" on the function you pass into it, treating it as a constructor, so you don't have to yourself

[20:38:55] <jaawerth> (and automatically returns the instantiated object)

[20:38:59] <jaawerth> that is the only difference

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[20:40:12] <areologist> the angular styleguide on JPs github recommends using factory

[20:40:17] <mansoormb> i have a random html5 question

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[20:40:46] <mansoormb> is there anyway to continuously track GPS data even if the website is not open

[20:40:47] <mansoormb> ?

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[20:41:03] <nickeddy> wat

[20:41:06] <mansoormb> maybe using a web socket or something

[20:41:39] <oniijin> lol if the site is not open what is the socket connecting to

[20:41:43] <areologist> but there isn't really a strong argument (that I'm aware of) for factory() over service().. maybe factory is slightly cleaner in DI context.

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[20:41:56] <mansoormb> lets say I want to use HTML5 geo tracking with google maps on a web application and I want to track an individual even when off of the website

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[20:42:21] <mansoormb> similar to how apps do it

[20:42:25] <nickeddy> <NSA> we do that on your phone already

[20:42:27] <oniijin> that's not happening

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[20:42:42] <mansoormb> I didn't think so

[20:42:48] <oniijin> u'll need to use mobile os hooks

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[20:43:11] <oniijin> but that's not going to work from a strict browser app

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[20:43:51] <mansoormb> hmm so basically to get the functionality I want I would need to build out a native system

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[20:43:57] <plato1> maybe there's an API for google's location history

[20:44:06] <areologist> "even when off the website" - sounds like malware

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[20:44:17] <mansoormb> Yeah I don't want that hahah

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[20:44:49] <areologist> :-P

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[20:45:16] <ciro_nunes> https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/providers#conclusion

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[20:46:09] <mansoormb> I want gps tracking on this web app im creating

[20:46:19] <mansoormb> I want it to be real time

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[20:46:32] <seiyria> well then people would need your website open in real time

[20:46:44] <mansoormb> thats what I was thinking and I can do that

[20:46:48] <nickeddy> honestly that sounds evil and i don't know if anyone would help you do that

[20:46:58] <mansoormb> Its not evil

[20:47:02] <seiyria> yes it is

[20:47:06] <mansoormb> NO ITS NOT!

[20:47:07] <mansoormb> lol

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[20:47:18] <nickeddy> tracking someone's location while they don't have the app up...

[20:47:18] <mansoormb> I want to be able to shut it off too

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[20:47:21] <seiyria> I don't want something to continue tracking me after I close it unless I've explicitly told it to

[20:47:26] <oniijin> you should get their phone to take photos every 10 seconds too and send to server

[20:47:29] <nickeddy> evil as fuck

[20:47:34] <mansoormb> HAHAH

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[20:47:43] <mansoormb> the tracking only is meant for the employees

[20:47:47] <mansoormb> not for users

[20:47:56] <seiyria> that's even more sketchy

[20:47:56] <nickeddy> hope that's in their contract ;)

[20:47:59] <seiyria> you don't trust your employees?

[20:48:05] <seiyria> if I were working for you, I would fight that hardcore

[20:48:09] <mansoormb> Its a feature damn!

[20:48:09] <snurfery> aren't employees the users, in that case?

[20:48:09] <nickeddy> ^

[20:48:15] <nickeddy> feature?

[20:48:20] <seiyria> that's not a feature

[20:48:20] <snurfery> I mean delivery drivers have their trucks tracked, etc

[20:48:24] <mansoormb> the idea is a small local based delivery service

[20:48:26] <snurfery> so it's not unheard of

[20:48:33] <snurfery> yeah

[20:48:35] <nickeddy> well that clears things up

[20:48:35] <seiyria> sure, but that shouldn't be a web app then

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[20:48:38] <snurfery> and lyft, uber, etc

[20:48:38] <nickeddy> lol

[20:48:48] <seiyria> what if they accidentally hit home

[20:48:50] <snurfery> don't be lazy, build a native app

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[20:48:53] <seiyria> or w/e button takes you to the home screen

[20:48:55] <nickeddy> or ionic

[20:49:00] <mansoormb> I want the users that are having their items delivered to be able to track the drivers location

[20:49:01] <snurfery> (or ionic)

[20:49:07] <seiyria> that

[20:49:10] <seiyria> is sketchy af

[20:49:14] <snurfery> how?

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[20:49:17] <oniijin> regardless that 'feature' wont be possible in a browser

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[20:49:24] <snurfery> same as lyft/uber tracking where your driver is

[20:49:28] <seiyria> "oh, that guy is making a delivery, jump his truck!"

[20:49:31] <mansoormb> Exactly same idea

[20:49:33] <oniijin> u need to go native or webapp with native hooks (cordova)

[20:49:33] <seiyria> idk, I feel like that's a problem

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[20:49:52] <mansoormb> I might go native on this i just wanted to know other options

[20:49:53] <areologist> need a native app or native wrapper. look at geolocation api for your options in html5 browser environment

[20:50:05] <mansoormb> so ill take a look at cordova

[20:50:09] <plato1> agreed, use native app

[20:50:15] <oniijin> u should just hire children to follow your employees around

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[20:50:20] <mansoormb> HAHAHA!

[20:50:21] <oniijin> and phone in every minute with location

[20:50:27] <mansoormb> Children is the route im going for sure

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[20:50:34] <mansoormb> hahaha

[20:50:35] <oniijin> they're cheap

[20:50:44] <areologist> program mini-drones to follow the employees all day with constant video recording

[20:50:47] <oniijin> give them some candy

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[20:51:17] <mansoormb> okay cool I didn't think there was a way to do it using just the web interface

[20:51:29] <mansoormb> so I am guessing that native app is the direction I am heading

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[20:53:15] <oniijin> i still think slave labor children is better

[20:53:55] <mansoormb> probably cheaper initially too

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[20:54:12] <oniijin> u can probably buy a lb of candy for $5

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[20:54:30] <mansoormb> I believe in fair wages ill give them 2 pounds

[20:54:42] <oniijin> jeez are u trying to have diabetic obese children

[20:54:47] <oniijin> those are not trust worthy

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[20:54:50] <oniijin> u need them hungry

[20:54:55] <crunch-choco> guys, I have a little problem with UI.Router, i don't manage to call my controller

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[20:55:30] <crunch-choco> the controller is in a different folder from app.js, can I just set "controller: 'adminCtrl'" or should it be full path?

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[20:55:55] <oniijin> DI bro

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[20:57:01] <crunch-choco> oniijin: ah yes

[20:57:09] <crunch-choco> thanks :D

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[20:57:40] <s3shs> nickeddy, "you mean proper di syntax?" ?  ng-annotate ?

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[20:58:14] <nickeddy> ng-annotate just turns your non-minify safe DI to safe, proper DI

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[20:58:35] <mansoormb> its all about that DI!

[20:58:47] <s3shs> nickeddy, yeah.

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[20:59:04] <nickeddy> so instead of angular.module('app').controller('SomeCtrl', function($scope, $http) { }); -> angular.module('app').controller('SomeCtrl', ['$scope', '$http', function($scope, $http) {}]);

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[20:59:16] <s3shs> But if you've got 200 controllers, doing it manually becomes a chore.

[20:59:18] <nickeddy> second way is how you should be writing DI

[20:59:30] <nickeddy> well not if you have done that from the get go :P

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[20:59:50] <nickeddy> took me all of maybe 20 mins to refactor my bajillion controllers/directives/everything

[20:59:50] <oniijin> ngannotate that shiz =p

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[21:00:17] <s3shs> I am writing it the second way.  With ng-annotate you can do the first way and not have to type every service twice.

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[21:00:34] <s3shs> ng-annotate is a better solution.

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[21:01:31] <nickeddy> one less dependency for a few keypresses is ok with me

[21:01:37] <nickeddy> but either way works

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[21:01:51] <s3shs> I feel your pain, re: dependency.  I choose them wisely.

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[21:01:58] <s3shs> I think this one will be worth it.

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[21:02:17] <themime> nickeddy: s3shs ive been using $inject and have found it pretty clean

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[21:02:42] <themime> ive heard good thing about ng-annotate though

[21:02:46] <oniijin> i like having ngannotate in there just in case i forget to array notation something

[21:02:47] <oniijin> =p

[21:02:53] <oniijin> foolproof yourself

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[21:03:08] <crunch-choco> oniijin: idk if you were answering me earlier, but i aactually had the same DI issue :p

[21:03:23] <oniijin> yes my DI remark was to u

[21:03:33] <crunch-choco> aha ;)

[21:03:35] <s3shs> $inject is kind of cool but puts the services after the controller which is kind of weird to read.

[21:03:51] <areologist> ng-annotate isn't a dependency outside of your dev and build process so not sure why it would be an issue

[21:03:59] <nickeddy> does anyone here use slush?

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[21:05:19] <s3shs> areologist, I think he's thinking "one more thing on top of everything else."  One could argue that with every step in the build comes the changes of something screwing up.

[21:05:30] <s3shs> ^chances

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[21:07:13] <areologist> benefits may outweight. for example, with ng-strict-di directive (1.3) ngAnnotate will find missing DI annotations. It can also generate source maps and do some other things that might knock out another grunt/gulp task to break even. :-D

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[21:07:34] <crunch-choco> hm do you guys have a cleanly angularJS app on github that I could use as reference for structure, and best practices?

[21:07:45] <crunch-choco> cleanly coded*

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[21:08:24] <s3shs> areologist, good.  :-)

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[21:09:23] <oniijin> https://github.com/johnpapa/angularjs-styleguide

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[21:10:09] <oniijin> http://toddmotto.com/opinionated-angular-js-styleguide-for-teams/

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[21:13:07] <crunch-choco> oniijin: that's awesome, thanks a lot man!

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[21:14:15] <Grokling> ctanga: You about today?

[21:14:24] <ctanga> ay

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[21:16:32] <Grokling> ctanga: Awesome. I spent a lot more time playing with the nested resolve stuff last night, and determined that it's not working for me because I have named views. The resolves run, but the DI fails. http://plnkr.co/edit/Drnmd7wXVYvUQVccZ0Cg?p=preview

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[21:16:54] <Grokling> Remove the named views, and you have the plunker you sent me yesterday..

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[21:17:46] <brandon_> I have a ng-repeat + form question if anyone is free

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[21:18:05] <ctanga> Grokling: resolves are primarily state-based

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[21:18:16] <ctanga> Grokling: your views are like little leaf nodes attached to the state

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[21:18:25] <jaawerth> I like that

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[21:18:29] <jaawerth> well put

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[21:18:39] <ctanga> Grokling: the states are the tree, the views are leaves.  as they’re leaf nodes, a view can’t inherit from other views

[21:18:52] <jaawerth> ctanga: oh sorry I never commented in that discussion, work was SUUPER busy that week (also the week after)

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[21:18:58] <brandon_> I assume this wrong, but under how else to accomplish ng-repeat with forms.    <form class="table_refine group" ng-attr-id="insightEditForm_{{ $index }}" ng-attr-name="insightEditForm_{{ $index }}" ng-submit="clicked || processEditInsightForm(insightEditForm_{{$index}}.$valid, insight)">

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[21:19:04] <ctanga> jaawerth:  we got’er done :)

[21:19:09] <brandon_> the ng-submit seems to hate {{ $index }}

[21:19:12] <Grokling> So what you're saying is that I'm a muppet, and should shift the resolves back out to the state level ?

[21:19:24] <ctanga> Grokling: so if you move your resolve to the state level (retain the named views) and it will work again

[21:19:25] <dhrami> quick question? is there a nice way in ui-router to do component type development. I worte a really nice wizard generator that generates all the html and states for a wizard. Now I realized I need to be able to drop it into various different place in my app.  but the generated staes all have names such as 'wizard-x.page-y', is there a way to inject a group of states into my route tree so the the pages would be 'route-z.wizard-x.pag

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[21:19:53] <dhrami> I really don't want to have to generated multiple copies of my wizard for different locations

[21:19:55] <jaawerth> brandon_: where is your ng-repeat? inside the form out outside?

[21:19:57] <ctanga> dhrami: not nicely

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[21:20:04] <brandon_> outside the form

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[21:20:50] <jaawerth> brandon_: can you post a plnkr or if you don't want to get all your code working in a plunk, pastebin or gist your full template in context?

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[21:21:47] <Grokling> Thanks ctanga. It did cross my mind at like 3am to try that instead. I worked around it by injecting a service instead, and returning some promises from there. Possibly works out easier to follow the code with the service method.

[21:22:11] <brandon_> @jaawerth - here's the pastbin: http://pastebin.com/wF8RUtQG

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[21:22:49] <dhrami> ctanga, am I looking at the  problem the wrong way? or is there really no model for routing code reuse?

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[21:23:32] <ctanga> dhrami:  there’s no standard mechanism for reusing state trees

[21:23:37] <brandon_> inside the " <div ng-if="insight.editMode">" you can see the form.  The error I get is is syntax / $parse error, specifically with the $index in the ng-submit

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[21:23:50] <ctanga> dhrami: you can of course loop and copy, like you mentioned

[21:24:00] <dhrami> k.thanks. I am at the point where I know just enough Angular to be dangerous

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[21:24:21] <ctanga> dhrami: I wrote ui-router-extras sticky states to solve a similar use case

[21:24:33] <ctanga> dhrami: http://christopherthielen.github.io/ui-router-extras/example/stickymodal/#/

[21:24:35] <dhrami> been doing desktop stuff in WPF for 4 years and am just getting back into web

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[21:25:57] <dhrami> lol, ctanga. I was looking at that page when trying to solve my problem and it made my head hurt so I stopped. Guess I will go back and try to grok it all

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[21:27:40] <jaawerth> brandon_: well there's nothing inherent about using $index like that that would break it http://plnkr.co/edit/UqKDupB3zZm2GoQEC7E5?p=preview

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[21:29:00] <brandon_> @jaawerth: hmm.  maybe the issues is using $index with $valid dynamically

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[21:29:56] <snurfery> any ops around? we got new angular versions yo

[21:30:03] <snurfery> 1.2.27 & 1.3.3

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[21:31:01] <jaawerth> Foxandxss: was around a little earlier

[21:31:06] <jaawerth> er, no :

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[21:31:23] <jaawerth> I didn't realize there were still 1.2.x iterations

[21:31:25] <Foxandxss> uh oh h

[21:31:30] <Foxandxss> me either

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[21:31:45] <jaawerth> I've already migrated all my active stuff with no ill effects

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[21:32:06] <jaawerth> there are very few breaking changes that I've run into

[21:32:07] <Foxandxss> jaawerth: I guess that some big issues discovered now are relevant on 1.2.x

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[21:32:17] <Foxandxss> yeah, .27 is all bug fixes

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[21:32:52] <Grokling> Ah Foxandxss.. While you're operator, the plunker in the channel topic is borked - it now no longer loads angular. Confused the heck out of a few people while you were sleeping!

[21:32:56] <jaawerth> Foxandxss: yeah that's what I'd expect. I mean I haven't really run into any breaking changes moving from 1.2.x to 1.3.x. The ones I did encounter  (already forgotten) were easy to find and fix

[21:33:06] <jaawerth> that's a plunkr issue

[21:33:16] <Foxandxss> Grokling: will check in a minute, dinner here :P

[21:33:36] <jaawerth> the default template that loads 1.2.x in plunkr is now broken and doesn't load angular, because the library defaults to 1.3.x instead of 1.2.x. It occurs when yo utry to launch from that predefined template as well

[21:33:43] <Grokling> jaawerth: True, but only an operator can change the link to point to a plunker that actually works..

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[21:33:51] <snurfery> yeah I noticed that too

[21:33:52] <jaawerth> yeah

[21:33:57] <snurfery> I had to put in 1.2.25

[21:34:03] <jaawerth> but someone has to go borrow George T. Plunker about it

[21:34:07] <jaawerth> er, bother*

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[21:34:22] <oniijin> u should borrow him instead

[21:34:25] <oniijin> have him write your app

[21:34:29] <Foxandxss> I have some good ones too

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[21:34:46] <Foxandxss> oh, that one is borked indeed

[21:34:57] <Foxandxss> hell borked

[21:35:11] <Grokling> It's had the borking from 'Nam.

[21:35:20] <Foxandxss> if there is any good tell me, or I create a new one

[21:35:27] <marcospgp> Why is it that $http request urls with '/' are relative to the base url (and not index.html), while templateUrl's starting with "/" are relative to index.html?

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[21:35:50] <jaawerth> if anyone wants it, this is the custom 1.3.1 template I've been using lately. It uses 1.3.x, controllerAs syntax, and I also removed the poor practice var app = angular.module stuff in the default one. I got sick of seeing it every time I stubbed out a plunk

[21:35:52] <jaawerth> http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:jxl60G0hVTT0K6EqFEnh?p=catalogue

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[21:36:46] <Foxandxss> nice, bet leek keep it non opinionated for newbies

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[21:37:03] <jaawerth> yeah, I wasn't suggesting that be the default

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[21:37:24] <jaawerth> THOUGH, the app.module stuff just gives new people bad habits because they end up learning that as the "right" way to do it

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[21:37:40] <Grokling> Actually, just had a thought.. (happens sometimes) What we need to do is curate a collection of useful plunkers. A basic one 'hello world', one that uses ui-router, one that uses named views, one that demonstrates factories etc. No idea how or who though, just seems like reinventing the wheel otherwise.

[21:37:44] <jaawerth> that's what I did anyway, and only realized otherwise once I got into the best practices guide

[21:37:45] <TheAceOfHearts> I think opinionated code is good, it lessens the burden of decision-making for the noobs

[21:37:56] <jaawerth> that's true

[21:37:58] <Foxandxss> yeah, agreed jaawerth

[21:38:08] <Foxandxss> true TheAceOfHearts , but depend o n the opinion

[21:38:14] <Foxandxss> the NON app stuff is awesome

[21:38:32] <jaawerth> also, controllerAs is definitely opinionated code, but it also saves people from primitive on scope issues

[21:38:38] <TheAceOfHearts> best practices are kinda bs too, some people are putting out these best practice guides after using it for one or two small projects

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[21:38:54] <jaawerth> and part of the problem people do that so often is that a lot of introductory material is rife with it

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[21:40:05] <Foxandxss> http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS

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[21:40:06] <Foxandxss> thoughts?

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[21:40:24] <jaydubya> AS a noob, I think opinionated is GREAT until I know enough to form my own opinion

[21:40:32] <TheAceOfHearts> yeah

[21:40:35] <TheAceOfHearts> Foxandxss: lgtm

[21:40:48] <jaawerth> Foxandxss: good compromise. it still bugs me that it's putting a primitive on scope, though

[21:40:58] <marcospgp> Anyone pls? Why is it that $http request urls with '/' are relative to the base url (and not index.html), while templateUrl's starting with "/" are relative to index.html?

[21:41:00] <snurfery> grr why does bower-angular try to force me to 1.3.x

[21:41:01] <Foxandxss> yeah, but controllerAs is an opinion AND a personal preference

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[21:41:10] <Foxandxss> trying to leave personal preferences aside

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[21:41:23] <jaawerth> wrap it in an object then?

[21:41:40] <Foxandxss> definitely

[21:41:49] <jaawerth> I mean for your template ;-)

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[21:41:57] <Foxandxss> yes yes

[21:42:01] <TheAceOfHearts> eh

[21:42:07] <Grokling> Foxandxss: which is why a collection of plunkers could be useful. Here's the 'no opinion' option, 'opinion A', and 'opinion B'

[21:42:09] <TheAceOfHearts> I have primitives on some scopes

[21:42:18] <Foxandxss> Grokling: topic is small tho ;(

[21:42:21] <TheAceOfHearts> as long as you're not doing anything convoluted it should be fine~

[21:42:21] <jaawerth> I keep my own curated collection of plunkers that I draw from when answering questions

[21:42:27] <Foxandxss> maybe we could create a list of plunkers tho

[21:42:36] <TheAceOfHearts> a plunkr plunkr~

[21:42:43] <jaawerth> one of these days I'll throw up a blog and properly aggregate them + expand upon them

[21:42:56] <Foxandxss> jaawerth: feel short of imagination

[21:43:00] <Foxandxss> how would you name the object?

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[21:43:09] <Foxandxss> you can be famous now! official plunk!

[21:43:09] <Grokling> Foxandxss: I was thinking of maybe setting up a plunker account for the channel, and linking from the topic to the list of plunkers in that account perhaps?

[21:43:10] <Foxandxss> haha

[21:43:19] <Foxandxss> it is a idea yes

[21:43:29] <jaawerth> Foxandxss: haha, that's why I like controllerAs! It's a more natural way of wrapping things in objects ;-). I'd keep it general, though. $scope.my?

[21:43:36] <jaawerth> $scope.main?

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[21:44:05] <Foxandxss> no, sounds like a pattern to follow, like people thinking that if the primitive is not inside main, it won't work

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[21:44:11] <jaawerth> $scope.foo?

[21:44:18] <jaawerth> $scope.latefordinner?

[21:44:21] <ish> With controllerAs syntax, should I be adding functions to the prototype?  Or attaching them to 'this' in my constructor?  And doesn't this effectively put them on my scope (which I suppose is fine)?

[21:44:21] <Foxandxss> $scope.foo.bar

[21:44:25] <Foxandxss> that one is good

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[21:44:52] <cthrax> anyone in here found any gotchas using restmod? I've been using Restangular but am considering switching

[21:44:56] <Grokling> There's a heap of good stuff in plunkers.. If you go trawling through jaawerth and robdubya's plunker accounts you can lose an entire week learning new things.

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[21:45:15] <Foxandxss> http://plnkr.co/edit/tpl:nKLNBdve51sqOoKZAOUS

[21:45:27] <Foxandxss> I have a folder on chrome

[21:45:31] <jaawerth> ish: It's a small difference. your controllers aren't likely to be instantiated a ton, so I would probably not put it on prototype, particularly if it's likely to be a frequently-called function (one going in a template, for example), since you'll get a minimal perf hit due to the prototype lookup chain

[21:45:33] <Foxandxss> with a couple of templates I use

[21:45:40] <Foxandxss> for directive testing

[21:45:41] <Foxandxss> general testing

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[21:46:03] <jaawerth> ish: it IS effectively putting it on scope, but as a property of your controller object - the net effect is still that your scopes are going to be MUCH cleaner

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[21:46:38] <jaawerth> Grokling: haha mine is also full of one-off random crap that I wrote for people in here for a specific purpose. I always tell myself I'll go back and delete those..

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[21:46:58] <jaydubya> nickeddy: thoughts on gulp-load-plugins?

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[21:47:16] <Foxandxss> I like it jaawerth

[21:47:17] <Foxandxss> errr

[21:47:18] <cthrax> jaydubya, you weren't asking me, but I like it, keeps me free of a ton of vars

[21:47:22] <Foxandxss> jaydubya:

[21:47:23] <Foxandxss> jaydubya: change your name already!

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[21:47:35] <Grokling> jaawerth: Yeah, I'd noticed ;-)  Hence my proposal for a curated collection of well commented and labeled plunkers.

[21:47:37] <nickeddy> jaydubya: is that the thing that loads all of your gulp dependencies under the local node_modules?

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[21:47:45] <areologistica> random cultural question: why is angular so popular in Utah and among Mormons?

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[21:47:58] <TheAceOfHearts> *cough*

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[21:48:17] <ish> jaawerth: Thanks.  So style wise, it may not be best to put it on the prototype (and as far as I can tell, I don't need them there anyways).

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[21:48:35] <Grokling> areologistica: Because the Amish don't use computers all that much?

[21:48:38] <jaawerth> ish: I'd say don't bother unless you have a particular reason to do so

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[21:48:45] <nickeddy> jaydubya: i don't see anything wrong with it really but i like to be explicit on my requires

[21:48:53] <marcospgp> angular $http url starting with "/" is treated as absolute while no "/" is treated as relative. wtf?

[21:49:03] <areologistica> for example, I see sample code that references book of Mormon (ngGrid, as one example off the top of my head), many angular ppl I follow on twitter post mormon stuff, and by far the most Google searches for AngularJS come from Utah.

[21:49:15] <TheAceOfHearts> marcospgp: that's expected behavior

[21:49:16] <cthrax> marcospgp, isn't that the web?

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[21:49:31] <jaawerth> ish: you might see more benefit if it's a controller for, say, a directive that's going to see a lot of repeated use

[21:49:31] <nickeddy> ^

[21:49:35] <TheAceOfHearts> that's exactly how I'd expect it to work

[21:49:35] <marcospgp> I was expecting the contrary? hm

[21:49:37] <jaydubya> nickeddy: as usual, both sides have good points ... explicit means it makes sense in 3 months but lazy is ALWAYS good

[21:49:41] <cthrax> marcospgp, or filesystem 101

[21:49:58] <nickeddy> jaydubya: then again i don't have like 90 requires so who knows

[21:50:05] <marcospgp> anyway then why is it that templateUrl starting with '/' is relative while no '/' is absolute?

[21:50:13] <jaawerth> ish: since in that case, it's going to be instantiated a lot

[21:50:27] <TheAceOfHearts> marcospgp: it's not...

[21:50:38] <TheAceOfHearts> template starting with / is absolute, without leading slash it's relative

[21:50:56] <cthrax> ^^^

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[21:50:57] <areologistica> I feel like there's some history or connection to Utah that I'm not aware of, that's why I ask. Curiosity.

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[21:51:14] <TheAceOfHearts> I saw a blog post last night

[21:51:14] <cthrax> areologistica, sounds antecodotal to me

[21:51:16] <Foxandxss> areologistica: we are not interested

[21:51:27] <TheAceOfHearts> the guy wrote some stuff I agree with :u

[21:51:36] <TheAceOfHearts> I don't think angular is well suited for really large projects

[21:51:44] <marcospgp>  well weirdly when deployed the dash was making chrome send a request to domain.com/devindexfolder/file.html and removing it made the request become domain.com/file.html

[21:52:04] <cthrax> TheAceOfHearts, you could make the argument that any scripted language is not suited to really large projects

[21:52:37] <marcospgp> I think they messed up the part where '/' is relative to the index.html or the base domain

[21:52:50] <nickeddy> they didn't marcospgp, you're just not understanding it

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[21:53:14] <jaawerth> Foxandxss: hahaha actually I am now morbidly curious about this theoretical Angular/Mormonism connection. Here I always thought it had more ties with Dudeism

[21:53:17] <areologistica> some of what I said is anecdotal, which doens't mean it's wrong. Anecdotal observations can form a valid basis for further inquiry.

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[21:53:34] <marcospgp> Weell, for $http I had to use a dash to make it relative to the domain, while for templateUrl I had to remove it

[21:53:42] <nickeddy> dash? or slash?

[21:53:45] <areologistica> But the Google thing is not anecdotal, it's data. The metro area with the most interest in Angular is Salt Lake City UT.

[21:53:46] <nickeddy> dash !== slash

[21:54:00] <marcospgp> If this was reversed, they both would make a request to domain.com/indexfolder/something

[21:54:00] <nickeddy> areologistica: because ng-conf is there next year

[21:54:04] <areologistica> The state with the most interest (in terms of Google searches) in angular is Utah.

[21:54:15] <marcospgp> ofc slash is a much better guitarist

[21:54:16] <jaawerth> areologistica: what nickeddy said. Also, Salt Lake City is IIRC sort of a burgeoning tech hub

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[21:54:34] <areologistica> TheThe trend starts pretty abruptly at the beginning of 2013

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[21:54:37] <marcospgp> aha but this -> '/'

[21:54:39] <marcospgp> slash

[21:54:43] <marcospgp> saul hudson

[21:54:51] <cthrax> jaawerth, I don't understand how that could be, tech without coffee???

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[21:55:00] <nickeddy> lol

[21:55:02] <jaawerth> or alcohol!

[21:55:05] <jaawerth> madness!

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[21:55:12] <nickeddy> oh they have plenty of madness

[21:55:12] <cthrax> impossible!

[21:55:22] <areologistica> Okay, SLC as burgeoning tech hub and ng-conf. Interesting. Thanks.

[21:55:29] <nickeddy> http://xkcd.com/323/

[21:55:42] <TheAceOfHearts> Utah isn't that great, it's too cold

[21:55:44] <TheAceOfHearts> Cali weather ftw

[21:55:50] <cthrax> beware the balmer's peak

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[21:56:05] <cthrax> TheAceOfHearts, yeah, but then you have to put up with CA people

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[21:56:12] <areologistica> But the conf. being there wouldn't necessarily generate more searches from there, just about there.

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[21:56:33] <areologistica> I think burgeoning tech hub may explain, but it's quite a bit above even silicon valley in Angular searches.

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[21:56:57] <areologistica> Is Pluralsight based in Utah?

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[21:57:00] <nickeddy> i still don't see why you're trying to make a point about utah/mormonism and angular

[21:57:06] <nickeddy> not everyone in utah is mormon

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[21:57:33] <areologistica> I'm not making a point, I'm wondering about a trend. You seem very quick to read intent into everything.

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[21:57:48] <cthrax> nickeddy, oh sure, next you're going to tell me not everyone in Texas owns a gun

[21:58:07] <TheAceOfHearts> I want bear arms

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[21:58:19] <nickeddy> TheAceOfHearts: bear arms are your right after all

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[21:58:27] <TheAceOfHearts> 'muricah

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[21:59:42] <nickeddy> areologistica: just pointing out some incorrect assumptions is all

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[21:59:58] <areologistica> which incorrect assumption is that?

[22:00:05] <Grokling> Aw.. Don't spoil it.. I thought everyone in texas lives on a ranch, drives a truck and every truck has a gun-rack in the back window.

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[22:00:18] <nickeddy> just because you're in Utah doesn't mean you're fucking mormon

[22:00:19] <nickeddy> lol

[22:00:22] <areologistica> You're incorrectly assuming that I've made that assumption

[22:00:25] <TheAceOfHearts> shit, a gun-rack would be pretty sweet

[22:00:26] <areologistica> Ironically

[22:00:32] <TheAceOfHearts> stop

[22:00:33] <TheAceOfHearts> stop

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[22:00:36] <nickeddy> holy fuck kill yourself

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[22:00:40] <nickeddy> new ignore

[22:00:41] <jaydubya> Grokling: you forgot cowboy boots, stetsons and "overalls"

[22:00:44] <TheAceOfHearts> you're arguing about nothing, guys

[22:00:48] <TheAceOfHearts> just be happy :D

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[22:01:13] <cthrax> TheAceOfHearts, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXuCgD4cbHs

[22:01:23] <TheAceOfHearts> nickeddy: probably not a great thing to tell someone to kill themselves :p

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[22:01:40] <Foxandxss> no is not

[22:01:46] <Foxandxss> don't do that again

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[22:02:21] * Grokling puts down his popcorn and starts to think about angular again.

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[22:04:20] <Foxandxss> yes

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[22:04:24] <Foxandxss> Offtopic is done

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[22:04:37] <TheAceOfHearts> so, how about them bear arms, eh?

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[22:04:58] <Foxandxss> doone

[22:05:00] <davek> No freedom without .50 BMG.

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[22:05:03] <TheAceOfHearts> http://images.brandretailers.com/thrivesnowboards/assets/users/66513/files/images/Bear%20Arms.png @Foxandxss

[22:05:25] <cthrax> So how about angular-restmod vs restangular, any real world experience worth sharing?

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[22:05:33] <davek> Yes, angular-restmod is awful.

[22:05:37] <davek> Great attempt, awful execution.

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[22:05:57] <cthrax> davek, what made it so?

[22:06:01] <cthrax> boilerplate to create the models?

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[22:06:10] <cthrax> difficult to debug?

[22:06:15] <cthrax> details!

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[22:06:55] <TheAceOfHearts> http://semantic-ui.com/ did you guys see this? pretty coool

[22:07:04] <Foxandxss> areologistica: warned you last time with your crap articles and 2.0 FUD, won't warn again

[22:07:06] <davek> It uses so many anti-patterns and poor design decisions. The guy misuses promises at every turn and refuses to integrate them correctly. I submitted a ticket and his response was "well this is familiar to people" and that I should fork it if I wanted to fix it.

[22:07:37] <areologistica> Crap articles? Warned for what exactly? I don't appreciate this.

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[22:07:58] <TheAceOfHearts> drama~

[22:08:00] <areologistica> I recall one article that was a mixed bag, pretty subjective though. I don't think you're being fair.

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[22:08:12] <Foxandxss> areologistica: yes, trying to bring bad discussions on board

[22:08:17] <Foxandxss> and then all this mormon crap

[22:08:23] <cthrax> davek, fair enough, thanks for the feedback!

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[22:10:05] <cthrax> TheAceOfHearts, <div class="ui stackable center aligned very relaxed page grid"> looks more readable than some css, but I'd never remember all that

[22:10:06] <cheef> evening guys, im working with ui-router, and ui-router-extras (future states). in the config phase im creating some dynamic states (use the same controller), but i want inject some differences, things like an id, or some config. Whats a nice way to do that?

[22:10:11] <areologistica> Not at all. An article about Angular was trending on Hacker News. It brought up some valid issues that, as I pointed out, are partially addressed in 1.3. The claim that I'm *trying* to bring bad discussions to the board is way off.

[22:10:52] <TheAceOfHearts> cthrax: nor would I lol

[22:10:55] <areologistica> yes, some discussions that I've participated in have gone south, but I do not take the blame. Some of the reactions have been absurd, including yours, imo.

[22:10:56] <Foxandxss> alright, I'll keep an eye

[22:11:05] <TheAceOfHearts> mutiny~

[22:11:06] <davek> ngActiveRecord gets much much closer in my opinion but again the guy running the project seems to be clueless about what people want out of the project (like 20+ heavy and unnecessary dependencies?)

[22:11:10] <davek> @cthrax

[22:11:13] <TheAceOfHearts> areologistica: enhance your calm~

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[22:11:35] <Foxandxss> areologistica: tbh I received some "notifications" about your bad behavior here

[22:11:40] <Foxandxss> I was just pointing it out

[22:11:48] <areologistica> Ace: your interpretation of my level of calm is not consistent my actual emotional state. And why are you telling me how to feel anyway?

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[22:12:03] <TheAceOfHearts> jesus

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[22:12:15] <davek> Defense++

[22:12:16] <UniBot> Defense Karma: 1

[22:12:19] <davek> No.

[22:12:21] <davek> God dammit.

[22:12:22] <TheAceOfHearts> lmao

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[22:12:29] <TheAceOfHearts> davek++

[22:12:30] <UniBot> davek Karma: 4

[22:12:35] <TheAceOfHearts> leveling up~

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[22:12:52] <cthrax> davek, interesting, I'll give that a look. He also seems a little short on documentation

[22:12:56] <davek> 1996 more points until I get the cool Angular eraser.

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[22:13:11] <davek> cthrax, don't look at it, its a disappointment but its what I want to see out of 2.0

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[22:13:21] <davek> Or what I would make if I had the time or inclination.

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[22:13:35] <cthrax> haha

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[22:14:13] <davek> Transport-agnostic, OOP-based models with built-in validation, form generation, etc? Fuck yes.

[22:14:20] <davek> All about that jam.

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[22:14:36] <davek> Also, association-aware.

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[22:14:57] <cthrax> yeah, that sounds pretty nice

[22:15:11] <cthrax> though I have yet to have a validation/form-generation paradigm that just worked

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[22:15:16] <areologistica> Foxxandxss, as I'm confident that there are no concrete instances of unambiguous bad behavior on my part I might suggest that someone has abused the notifications system and/or been unintentionally rubbed the wrong way by my posts.

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[22:16:10] <TweedleDee> is there any easy way to make all fields on a <form> $pristine again?

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[22:16:23] <davek> areologistica, is this how you would react if there were an HR issue at work?

[22:16:32] <cheef> $setPristine

[22:16:53] <Foxandxss> areologistica: that is why I did nothing, but you have to admit that the mormon crap is not helpful at all

[22:17:00] <Grokling> areologistica: I think Foxandxss is just letting you know that you're on his radar for whatever reason. Just keep your head down for a while, and it'll pass..

[22:17:00] <areologistica> I am here primarily to learn about AngularJS, and help others when I can, and secondarily to interact cordially but logically with fellow angular enthusiasts.

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[22:17:12] <TweedleDee> ... thanks cheef

[22:17:15] <TweedleDee> lmao

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[22:17:32] <cheef> :D

[22:17:45] <jaawerth> TweedleDee: check out $setPristine https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/type/form.FormController

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[22:17:52] <Foxandxss> Grokling: nah, I am not paying attention lately

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[22:18:10] <Foxandxss> and it becomes annoying when you get notifications and damn, what I know

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[22:18:18] <TweedleDee> yeah worked like a charm, for some reason since you never ng-model or anything I didn't think my form name would be in scope, but since its actually a directive, it was...

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[22:19:13] <cheef> as long as you give your form a name it will be

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[22:19:55] <areologistica> The Utah (secondarily, and by association, Mormonism) question is just a passing matter of curiosity. Not sure why it's taboo. Apologies if it offended anyone.

[22:20:16] <Foxandxss> it is _not_ tabu

[22:20:23] <Foxandxss> but for an offtopic, it is a little bit wierd

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[22:21:25] <areologistica> When I asked I thought it would have some simple answer that everyone knew except me: like, Google has some big Angular office in Utah.

[22:21:29] <areologistica> So, sorry I asked.

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[22:22:13] <cheef> Foxandxss: what are my options for injecting some config data into a controller in a config phase?

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[22:22:40] <nickeddy> cheef: angular.value or .constant

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[22:23:20] <cheef> nickeddy: that would be OK for once instance of the controller, i have many instances of the same controller

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[22:23:32] <cheef> but I want to paramterise them with a few bits and peices

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[22:23:57] <TweedleDee> also if you are using the "controller as ctrl" syntax it doesn't appear that if you have a form named "myForm" that from within your controller you can use that $setPristine() function unless you inject $scope and do $scope.myForm.$setPristine() because I tried ctrl.myForm.$setPristine(); and it didn't work

[22:24:07] <Foxandxss> wait wait wait

[22:24:12] <nickeddy> cheef: if you use ui-router, perhaps a resolve on the state for that controlle

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[22:24:15] <nickeddy> r

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[22:24:19] <Foxandxss> you can't do that in "config" pthase

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[22:24:38] <jaawerth> TweedleDee: probably, since I believe the form directives will by default act upon scope. I haven't played with it though

[22:24:41] <ish> I'm changing my view by doing window.location("#/otherView"), and while it switches to the other view fine, the scroll stays the same (if at first I'm scrolled to the bottom of a page, the new view is scrolled to the bottom).  Is that normal?

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[22:25:12] <cheef> Foxandxss:sorry, for clarification im using future states

[22:25:22] <cheef> as part of the config phase im fetching a json schema

[22:25:35] <nickeddy> cheef: in that case resolve is perfect

[22:25:36] <cheef> schema gets turned into a series of forms

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[22:26:31] <cheef> but ive templated the controller, so there were some properties on the view model I wanted to paramterise

[22:26:46] <cheef> I guess I could use state params?

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[22:27:09] <jaawerth> cheef: or resolves - that's kind of what they're for

[22:27:40] <cheef> ye im using reslves for the original schema. brb dogs trying to play with mr!

[22:27:41] <cheef> me*

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[22:28:22] <cheef> wont leave me alone :D

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[22:30:17] <cheef> so when im registering the future states i can just use resolve on tha tha?

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[22:36:34] <laravelnewbie> Hi Guys

[22:36:34] <laravelnewbie> how to create select list without first empyt line in angularjs?

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[22:40:17] <Grokling> laravelnewbie: You'll get the empty line if your ng-model doesn't match up with one of the select options. Make it match, then the empty line goes away.

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[22:41:29] <Grokling> laravelnewbie: http://plnkr.co/edit/o9kiI1lydYCFcz6zgGgj?p=preview  Select one of the options, then drop down the list again, and notice that the empty line has gone.

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[22:41:48] <laravelnewbie> ok, I need try this

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[22:43:05] <Grokling> laravelnewbie: Then, in the app.js, change it to be $scope.thing = {answer:2}; and have a look at that dropdown again.

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[22:43:21] <laravelnewbie> ok

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[22:44:24] <laravelnewbie> I have something like this

[22:44:25] <laravelnewbie> <select ng-change="leavesCountUpdate([[quote[0].sections.indexOf(section)]]);updateFlatXCount([[quote[0].sections.indexOf(section)]]); updateFlatYCount([[quote[0].sections.indexOf(section)]]); updateFlatSizeLength([[quote[0].sections.indexOf(section)]]); updateFlatSizeWidth([[quote[0].sections.indexOf(section)]]);" name="leavesType" ng-model="secti

[22:44:25] <laravelnewbie> on.leavesType" id="leavesType" class="form-control selectpicker" data-live-search="true">

[22:44:25] <laravelnewbie>                             <option ng-repeat="val in lookup[[quote[0].sections.indexOf(section)]].leavesTypes" value="[[ val.key ]]">[[ val.value ]]</option>

[22:44:25] <laravelnewbie>                         </select>

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[22:45:32] <Grokling> laravelnewbie: Do your code pasting somewhere other than in the channel.. plunker is good - feel free to fork one that is close to what you need.

[22:45:55] <laravelnewbie> ok

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[22:46:15] <davek_> Don't know what you mean, that's perfectly legible.

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[22:46:38] <Grokling> Also, that's a whole lot of logic to have in the view..

[22:46:55] <laravelnewbie> http://codetidy.com/5785/

[22:47:04] <Grokling> davek_: All the linebreaks and indentations come across so well huh ;-)

[22:47:05] <laravelnewbie> problem is with (key, val)

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[22:47:24] <laravelnewbie> I need in value input show 0,1,2

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[22:47:34] <laravelnewbie> I don't need there id

[22:48:13] <moogey> Does anybody have a pattern when using tabs to lazy load content as they're selected?

[22:48:14] <Grokling> laravelnewbie: Is there any particular reason you're not using ng-options?

[22:48:26] <laravelnewbie> no

[22:48:26] <s3shs> moogey, sure.

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[22:48:38] <laravelnewbie> no

[22:48:45] <laravelnewbie> Grokling no

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[22:48:53] <s3shs> moogey, just use ng-if with ng-include for each tab.

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[22:48:55] <Grokling> laravelnewbie: Have a good look at that plunker again - it might just simplify things for you.

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[22:49:42] <bahoo> I might be trying to do something silly

[22:49:54] <bahoo> I’ve got these JS files I’d like to load in with something possibly like ngResource

[22:49:57] <laravelnewbie> :(

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[22:49:59] <bahoo> they look like this: http://pastebin.com/n1aQ3MS9

[22:49:59] <laravelnewbie> thx

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[22:50:20] <moogey> s3shs: I was about to say something about destroying scope, but i'm not sure if what I'm doing right now isn't already doing that

[22:50:21] <bahoo> would love to be able to do something like:

[22:50:26] <moogey> thanks s3shs

[22:50:41] <bahoo> var foo = Resource.get();, then be able to use foo.myfunc();

[22:50:44] <s3shs> ng-if creates a new scope.  ng-show does not.

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[22:51:41] <Grokling> moogey: Another option is to look at nested states - make the content of your tab a child state, and use the tab handles to load the child state.

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[22:52:30] <bahoo> but in Chrome, i get a Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token (

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[22:53:03] <moogey> Grokling: I have my tabs registering themselves with a parent url, so I think that's the way to go

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[22:57:11] <laravelnewbie> noo co jest kurwa

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[22:57:16] <laravelnewbie> moglby kto pomoc

[22:57:17] <laravelnewbie> ?

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[22:59:54] <Grokling> laravelnewbie: A pimp?

[23:00:05] <s3shs> heh

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[23:01:11] <Grokling> Google translate thinks that was polish.. I'm not so sure based on it's translation :-D

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[23:03:58] <moogey> yeah I'm lost now

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[23:05:31] <Grokling> moogey: I can't remember when I last wasn't..

[23:05:59] <moogey> so deep *wipes tear*

[23:06:05] <oniijin> twss

[23:06:10] <nickeddy> ^

[23:06:13] <nickeddy> oniijin++

[23:06:14] <UniBot> oniijin Karma: 1

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[23:06:21] <oniijin> my job here is done

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[23:06:27] <nickeddy> for all time

[23:06:33] <nickeddy> everyone wave farewell to oniijin

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[23:08:02] <m_rc> Anyone know if it's possible to access resolve data during $stateChange ?

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[23:09:14] <matisoffn> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27085721/angular-datatables-directive-apply-ready-on-promise-return-not-recognizing-a-re

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[23:15:01] <themime> since 1.3 it seems like $scope.$apply isn't needed as much, what are /good/ times to use it now?

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[23:15:20] <s3shs> themime, From directives.

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[23:15:34] <s3shs> But if you use all angular APIs you shouldn't have to at all.

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[23:16:03] <ingsoc> why would 1.3 be different to 1.x ?

[23:16:28] <s3shs> The angular guys have gotten smarter.

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[23:16:30] <s3shs> (And gals.)

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[23:17:14] <ingsoc> s3shs: what has changed with regards to negating the need for using $scope.$apply

[23:17:29] <s3shs> Specifically, I don't know.

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[23:17:42] <s3shs> But i've got a 40K line app here and I think I only call it like twice.

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[23:18:30] <ingsoc> s3shs: my point was I am not sure what would be any different in when you should use it

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[23:18:50] <s3shs> ok

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[23:18:59] <ingsoc> s3shs: 40k, quite a sizeable app

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[23:19:08] <s3shs> yes

[23:19:21] <ingsoc> what does it do

[23:19:25] <s3shs> web stuff

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[23:19:59] <ingsoc> i thoguht you were gonna say, launch satelites

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[23:20:50] <PercolatorLa> I am still having issues with ng-repeat filter...  Can someone take a look at this codepen and advise what I am doing wrong?

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[23:21:06] <s3shs> No reason you couldn't do that with web stuff

[23:21:09] <PercolatorLa> http://codepen.io/ersalmon/pen/emNJVg

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[23:27:18] <ngbot> [angular.js] petebacondarwin pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/1qKUbQ

[23:27:18] <ngbot> angular.js/master 09a9832 Pawel Kozlowski: fix(Angular): properly get node name for svg element wrapper...

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[23:28:46] <PercolatorLa> Can anyone assist me on an issue with ng-repeat filter?

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[23:30:41] <Grokling> ui-router is beating me up today. I have a really odd scenario happening while in the midst of running the resolves for the desired state, ui-router apparently gets bored and loads an entirely different state. I'm really stuck figuring this one out!

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[23:31:59] <dsdeiz> hey guys, i'm back again with my noob questions :D

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[23:33:48] <jaawerth> Grokling: sounds like a rogue event listener

[23:34:01] <jaawerth> PercolatorLa: go ahead and ask the question anyway, someone will likely be able to answer

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[23:35:43] <Grokling> jaawerth: I don't think I have any event listeners set up outside of $rootScope.$on('$stateChangeError'   and that's not firing. I've also trawled my code for references to the state it's ending up at either by state or by url and come up empty.

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[23:38:47] <Grokling> jaawerth: I think I got it.. It's a click event which is not preventing the default. I have a button in a div, clicking the div takes me to the state I didn't want. Clicking the button tries to get to the right place, but the div clicks as well, and screws it over.

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[23:41:48] <Grokling> Yep. Looks like it: https://github.com/driftyco/ionic/issues/550

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[23:42:31] <jaawerth> Grokling: ah!

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[23:42:40] <jaawerth> there you go

[23:43:07] <Grokling> Now, if only the proposed solution actually worked..

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[23:47:56] <jaawerth> Grokling: is it propagation causing it, or the event's default behavior? is it a link?

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[23:48:24] <jaawerth> Grokling: if it's a link causing the issue and not a JS-based/ng-click-based event causing the change, you may (also/instead) need $event.preventDefault()

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[23:48:56] <Grokling> jaawerth: Both the button, and the containing div have ng-click functions. It seems that the button fires, and then the div fires.

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[23:49:36] <ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross merged master into g3_v1_3: http://git.io/FbuhIw

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[23:50:00] <ytsejam> I will try to implement this iquery  template to angularjs. But I wonder is it wrong type of template for angularjs ? link here: http://8eyelashes.com/balloon/index.html

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[23:50:16] <ytsejam> I mean sliding views right to left

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[23:50:29] <ytsejam> and one page index.html

[23:50:33] <jaawerth> Grokling: and which one are you trying to prevent?

[23:50:52] <Grokling> jaawerth: the div should not fire if I click the button.

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[23:52:12] <jaawerth> Grokling: odd. In that case the stopPropagation should theoretically work

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[23:53:10] <Grokling> Mm. Maybe I need to check into which version I'm using - maybe my current version doesn't have that additional directive yet.

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[23:55:17] <dweave> hey I have a requirement for a “pencils down” type of timer that needs to broadcast to everyone subscribed over a websocket.  Does anyone know an appropriate server side solution to that?  Not strictly angular question, but teh front end is angular.

[23:55:30] <dweave> using nodejs

[23:55:59] <nickeddy> sailsssssssssssss

[23:56:12] <Grokling> Yeah, I was also going to say sails..

[23:56:15] <dweave> nickeddy was that directed towar moi?

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[23:56:20] <nickeddy> yes

[23:56:21] <dweave> hmm sails

[23:56:30] <dweave> how is it implemented in sails

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[23:56:37] <Grokling> Out of the box..

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[23:56:45] <AngularUI> [bootstrap] kevinoid opened pull request #3012: fix(datepicker): disable title button when in max mode (master...datepicker-disable-title-button) http://git.io/IsESgw

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[23:56:58] <dweave> gotcha.  that’s probably not an option just cause the project is in a pretty late stage

[23:57:00] <nickeddy> dweave: http://sailsjs.org/#/documentation/reference/websockets/resourceful-pubsub/message.html

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[23:57:08] <dweave> and we’re using express

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[23:57:20] <Grokling> Sails uses express under the hood.

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[23:57:29] <dweave> yah i know

[23:57:41] <Grokling> But, as you say, it's likely overkill just for that one thing.

[23:57:46] <dweave> so we have a pubsub mechanism already too: faye.  i’m wondering how to implement a timer server side basically

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[23:57:54] <dweave> i’ll take a look at that nickeddy thanks

[23:57:54] <Foxandxss> I am not too much in the sails mood

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[23:57:57] <davek_> dweave, send a broadcast event?

[23:58:00] <davek_> Ove the socket?

[23:58:17] <dweave> davek_ yeah how does that event originate though

[23:58:34] <dweave> the workflow is one client sends a message to “start the timer”

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[23:58:42] <davek_> Yeah Sails has good intentions but its super top-heavy and I do node+express to avoid the Rails ultra-conformative bullshit.

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[23:58:47] <dweave> then all clients need to be notified when the timer expires

[23:59:02] <davek_> dweave, any number of ways. You can have them join a room then broadcast the finished event to the room.

[23:59:24] <Foxandxss> I would love if sails moves to koa

[23:59:25] <dweave> davek_:  so oyou’d just have a setTimeout on the server or something?

[23:59:28] <Foxandxss> koa is wonderful

[23:59:40] <Foxandxss> with this co thingy
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