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[00:00:34] <dman777_alter> The docs aren't really clear...in a directive I have element.on "click", (event) -> inside a directive. When the derictive is finished, are there any references to the element.on listener that would keep it form being garbadge collected?
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[00:01:38] <TheAceOfHearts> Foxandxss: gogogogog
[00:01:40] <TheAceOfHearts> it'll be fun~
[00:01:43] <TheAceOfHearts> beer and wine
[00:01:49] <Foxandxss> yeah, need some teleport
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[00:01:55] <TheAceOfHearts> build one~
[00:01:56] <TheAceOfHearts> ez
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[00:03:35] <dman777_alter> I thought $destroy() ubinded event listeners, is this not the case?
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[00:05:34] <DANtheBEASTman> should I be refactoring this into a directive oor? also what's the best way to show the error messages?
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[00:07:50] <agustinvinao> Anyone can recommend which the best app generator to use with uiRouter? my options are yeoman generator-angular or generator-gulp-angular
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[00:09:52] <Foxandxss> ui router doesn't care about that
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[00:10:35] <agustinvinao> ok, then, which do you recommend?
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[00:10:52] <agustinvinao> from all generators you know
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[00:38:47] <wafflej0ck_> anyone here using or know anything about Gitlab?
[00:38:53] <jhwhite> Is it possible to implement a faceted search with data in a json file? Or do I need to set up something like elasticsearch or solr?
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[00:40:59] <wafflej0ck_> jhwhite: you can do "faceted search" using various $filters basically but for large data sets I'd typically do that kind of processing server side using SQL, not sure about ElasticSearch or solr though
[00:41:07] <deweydb> can someone point out whats wrong with my debounce
[00:41:24] <deweydb> fn() always fires twice after $scope.debounce doesn't get called for more than 500ms
[00:41:30] <deweydb> not sure why twice and not just once
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[00:42:28] <aphadke> hello, we are using html5mode on our website, but some users have a url bookmarked as www.mysite.com/#howitworks, how do i redirect this url to www.mysite.com/learn ?
[00:43:12] <deweydb> aphadke: ui-router?
[00:43:23] <wafflej0ck_> deweydb: you sure the controller isn't having two instances created, would put a console.log() at the top of the controller definition to be sure
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[00:43:41] <deweydb> wafflej0ck_: you are a genius
[00:43:43] <deweydb> thanks
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[00:44:17] <aphadke> deweydb: we are using 1.2.26 ?
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[00:44:36] <aphadke> deweydb: we are using 1.2.26, so just install ui-router as moudle?
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[00:45:07] <deweydb> aphadke: one sec
[00:45:37] <wafflej0ck_> aphadke: if you are using ngRoute you would just do it with that, think deweydb was just suggesting you would update the client side router configuration to redirect appropriately
[00:45:40] <jhwhite> wafflej0ck: thanks!
[00:45:43] <jhwhite> rhp: thanks!
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[00:46:03] <rhp> yw
[00:46:25] <deweydb> aphadke: sorry, i've never used ngRoute i went straight to using ui-router
[00:46:28] <wafflej0ck_> jhwhite: np
[00:46:30] <deweydb> if you are using ui-router you can do
[00:46:31] <deweydb> $urlRouterProvider.when('/c?id', '/contacts/:id')
[00:46:38] <deweydb> and define custom redirects
[00:46:40] <wafflej0ck_> deweydb: should be the same actually... pretty much
[00:46:44] <deweydb> i'm sure there is something similar for ngRouter
[00:46:51] <aphadke> /#howitworks still goes to 404
[00:47:05] <aphadke> even though it should show the partials/landing-index.html
[00:47:22] <SergioFilhow> #/howitworks
[00:47:42] <wafflej0ck_> yeah would try ^
[00:47:55] <deweydb> wafflej0ck_: why would my directives controller be getting instantiated twice?
[00:47:58] <wafflej0ck_> or just /howitworks haven't done this one myself yet though have either been html5 from the get go or not
[00:48:00] <deweydb> (you were correct by the way)
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[00:48:38] <wafflej0ck_> deweydb: yeah not sure you might be able to check the stack trace within the debugger; call but if there's only one instance I would expect only one controller and link call for that instance
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[00:48:55] <aphadke> SergioFilhow: wafflej0ck_: now sure what u r talking..
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[00:49:23] <wafflej0ck_> aphadke: typically the old routes would be something like #/howitworks not /#howitworks
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[00:49:43] <wafflej0ck_> aphadke: but not sure with html5mode if it will have stripped that when checking the routes so might just need /howitworks
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[00:49:49] <aphadke> wafflej0ck_: the old route is from a site that was built using PHP/coldfusion, and users have bookmarked that page
[00:49:56] <wafflej0ck_> ah okay
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[00:50:18] <SergioFilhow> aphadke: you're trying /#howitworks, but it should be #/howitworks on URL
[00:50:52] <aphadke> SergioFilhow: agreed, but google analytics show that users have /#howitworks bookmarked
[00:50:56] <wafflej0ck_> aphadke: yeah not sure would have to look into how html5mode handles a # in the url with regard to routing
[00:51:03] <aphadke> SergioFilhow: we had an old system that's migrated to angular
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[00:51:27] <wafflej0ck_> aphadke: I'm sure this redirect with the .when is the way to go just need to determine what the initial route looks like to angulars route handler
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[00:52:20] <wafflej0ck_> aphadke: it might just be when('/') and you may have to use $location.search() or something similar to pull the info from the URL to determine which route to load
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[00:57:36] <Fifty5Plus> How much user base does this cover
[00:57:43] <Fifty5Plus> Firefox latest stable (v29+)
[00:57:43] <Fifty5Plus> Chrome latest stable (v34+)
[00:57:43] <Fifty5Plus> Desktop Safari latest stable (v6+)
[00:57:44] <Fifty5Plus> Internet Explorer (v10+)
[00:57:44] <Fifty5Plus> Opera latest stable (v21+)
[00:57:44] <Fifty5Plus> Android 4.0+
[00:57:44] <Fifty5Plus> iOS Safari latest stable (v7.1+)
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[00:59:12] <Fifty5Plus> That's browser + NodeJS support for PouchDB
[00:59:15] <deweydb> wafflej0ck_: does a directive still link even if that element has an ng-if="false" on it?
[00:59:33] <wafflej0ck_> deweydb: ah yeah ng-if removes it after it's been initially created
[00:59:39] <deweydb> ahhh
[00:59:45] <deweydb> how do i prevent that?
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[00:59:52] <Foxandxss> always damn easy to try
[00:59:59] <Foxandxss> and I don't think you can prevent that
[01:00:06] <wafflej0ck_> deweydb: think you need some sort of custom component that doesn't $compile the part till it gets some info or something
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[01:00:24] <deweydb> hmm ok
[01:00:25] <wafflej0ck_> but not easy with ng-if like Foxandxss says
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[01:00:38] <wsmoak> is there a way to filter the output with ng-bind? Or do I have to use {{ ctrl.field | date }} for that one?
[01:00:44] <Foxandxss> someone tried to do a ngIf without compiling the childs
[01:00:49] <Foxandxss> but could have side effects
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[01:01:19] <deweydb> hmm this is a bigger issue for me than i thought
[01:01:25] <deweydb> i alwasy assumed i could build templates with ng-ifs
[01:01:29] <deweydb> and exclude sections
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[01:01:43] <deweydb> but this means my app is still running all those sections, even on pages where they are excluded
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<wafflej0ck_> deweydb: yeah it's not a good thing to use in terms of optimization really I typically just stick with ng-show and ng-hide so it doesn't have to add/remove elements from the DOM either it just changes the display property... can't really think of why I would use ng-if, sometimes I use ng-switch... https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/directive/ngIf according to the docs here one of the reasons to use it might be you have CSS that
[01:04:31] <wafflej0ck_> uses :first-child or the like
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[01:05:19] <Grokling> deweydb: ng-repeat="section in sections | activeSection" should work?
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[01:05:42] <deweydb> oh right, i should be filtering! duh
[01:05:42] <deweydb> thanks
[01:05:54] <wafflej0ck_> ah yeah in repeat definitely better to go with a filter
[01:05:58] <wafflej0ck_> good point Grokling
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[01:07:05] <deweydb> can you pass arguments to filters? ng-repeat="section in sections | activeSection(id)"
[01:07:15] <Grokling> I'm still not 100% convinced that it's not better to just set $scope.activeSection and dodge the ng-repeat entirely, but it's working for me at the moment.
[01:07:19] <Grokling> activeSection:id
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[01:07:46] <deweydb> ah ok thanks
[01:09:12] <wafflej0ck_> Grokling: yeah if you do the filtering or whatever in the controller and assign it to some property of the scope and use that in the ng-repeat instead you can better control when it gets triggered otherwise it's likely to be re-running the filter anytime a $digest cycle is running
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[01:13:24] <deweydb> oh, also good point.
[01:13:32] <deweydb> actually i think thats better than a filter.
[01:13:33] <aphadke> wafflej0ck_: thx. looking
[01:13:42] <deweydb> for my case at least
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[01:14:17] <Grokling> The filter is pretty light. The ng-repeat not so much. Especially if you're like me and have them nested 7 deep.
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[01:15:53] <dsdeiz> is it weird if our backend returns 404 and 400 status codes? i ask because i always see in the console things like "POST" 404 (Not found).
[01:16:11] <seiyria> hmm.. anyone here know how when you're scrolling on, say, android contact.. it shows your current letter until you change to the next one so you can get a general idea of where you are... is there a name for that kind of control?
[01:16:37] <wafflej0ck_> Grokling: ah yeah well at that point I think you might be running into making tons and tons of DOM elements too
[01:16:45] <oniijin> affix?
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[01:17:07] <seiyria> do affixes work like that?
[01:17:12] <oniijin> they can
[01:17:17] <oniijin> if it's what im thinking
[01:17:21] <oniijin> I dont use android
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[01:17:26] <Grokling> 1800 watchers. sucks. Still, that was my perfect storm test case, and it will NEVER happen like that in the real world.
[01:17:28] <seiyria> hum
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[01:18:11] <seiyria> that's what I was thinking kinda, but I'm trying to see if I can find it implemented as a plugin for angular somewhere so I don't have to make it myself :P
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[01:18:51] <seiyria> I don't think the angular-strap one (ie, bootstrap) works as I expect
[01:18:59] <seiyria> but I'm not sure.
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[01:19:16] <Logicgate> Hence why using third party plugins blows.
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[01:19:29] <seiyria> yeah, and sure, I could make one, but I don't know if I care enough to do it right now
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[01:19:40] <seiyria> I was just hoping to look around and see if I could find something close.. I could give it the push that it needs
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[01:20:05] <seiyria> hm.. maybe scrollspy works like that
[01:20:40] <oniijin> scrollspy/affix prob do what u want
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[01:23:38] <baweaver> Anyone have a good way to get \n or \r\n to render as newlines in html?
[01:24:05] <asher^> <pre>
[01:24:06] <Logicgate> <br\>?
[01:24:07] <baweaver> Trying to display code in a pre, but it's rendering the linebreaks
[01:24:07] <Logicgate> Lol
[01:24:16] <Grokling> baweaver: Can you pick them up with a directive and convert them somehow?
[01:24:17] <Logicgate> <br/> I mean
[01:24:33] <baweaver> Possibly, checking if there was a better way before jacking with it.
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[01:25:09] <Grokling> How about a filter? That should work..
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[01:39:54] <deweydb> do i run any risk using es5 and es6 shims along side angularjs ?
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<asdrubalivan> Hello everyone, I'm trying to trigger a click event for unit testing purposes within a select directive in angularjs. It looks as follows https://paste.ee/p/7BP5u My question is, am I doing it right? Or Is there any other way to do so?
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[01:48:19] <after_r> looks good
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[01:50:25] <asdrubalivan> Hummm... Just tested it, says "TypeError: undefined is not a function" @after_r
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[01:51:02] <after_r> oh well idk then
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[01:54:49] <deweydb> guys i have a very strange problem and i don't even know where to start looking for the solution. I have a variable in my controller like such $scope.footerVisible, depending on some conditions, i set it to true or false. Then in my template i have ng-show="footerVisible". If i refresh the page 10 times. about 2 out of 10 times it will not show the footer, and the other 8 times it will. I've checked to see that the
[01:54:49] <deweydb> scope is being applied, and even thrown a $scope.$apply in just to be sure, as well as a console log of the variable right before the $scope.apply and it is always true, despite sometimes the footer being hidden.
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[01:55:13] <felixn> I created a disable property on my directive ... but now I'm getting a nonassigned error when it's not assigned ... scope: {thingDisabled: '=thingDisabled"}
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[02:00:49] <aphadke> quick q - i am using ngroute, how do i add a "referrer" to "otherwise" in my config?
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[02:09:02] <deweydb> whelp. figured it out. pretty crazy. turns out it was a race condition between two things. I was adding an animation class conditionally with: ng-class="..." and because sometimes the animation class would get added before ng-hide and sometimes it would get added after. when it got added after ng-hide i guess it confused the crap out of ng-animate.
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[02:10:13] <deweydb> well just learned a bunch about directives from reading the angular source for ngShow. didn't realize you could scope.watch(attrs.something).. thats cool!
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[02:16:47] <jaawerth> deweydb: just use attrs.$observe if you want to do that
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[02:16:47] <asdrubalivan> I have a different question (I have googled it, but I haven't yet found a good answer for it). How do I simulate a selection from a <select> tag for unit testing purposes?
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[02:17:10] <deweydb> jaawerth: then why does angularjs itself use scope.watch?
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[02:18:13] <jaawerth> dunno, could be they wrote it that way and never updated ngShow after adding attrs.$observe in 1.whatever
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[02:21:09] <deweydb> if i do: scope.watch(attrs.myattr, function(value){ value here is the scope parsed version })
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[02:21:26] <deweydb> is the same true for attrs.$observe ?
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[02:21:34] <after_r> Can someone help me here? Whenever I have 'ngAnimate' module loaded, and then i have something like <div ng-include="'nav.html'"></div> in my file, I get this error in the console: $animate.enter(...) is undefined
[02:22:45] <after_r> its a show stopper
[02:22:50] <after_r> I want to use ng-include
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[02:23:12] <jaawerth> after_r: is your ng-animate source being included before or after angular itself?
[02:23:22] <after_r> after
[02:23:30] <Trindaz> How does angular diff objects on a watch expression? i've got a problem with cyclic refernces
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[02:24:29] <jaawerth> deweydb: as I recall, yes, so long as you're using curly brackets on the attribute
[02:24:58] <deweydb> so it doesn't then.
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[02:25:06] <deweydb> perhaps thats why they use scope.watch
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[02:25:14] <deweydb> because scope.watch does parse the value
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[02:26:03] <jaawerth> could be, could be
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[02:26:17] <deweydb> ng-show="myobj.myval" -->> scope.watch(attrs.myattr, function(value){ value here is the value of myobj.myval, not "myobj.myval"
[02:26:26] <deweydb> interesting...
[02:26:37] <deweydb> i feel like im finally starting to just barely understand angular.
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[02:26:49] <deweydb> its been two months now.
[02:26:57] <deweydb> and a lot of help from you guys!
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[02:27:19] <deweydb> sory, my example above was not well written.
[02:27:27] <deweydb> but i think you get what i'm saying.
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[02:28:14] <dsdeiz> hey all, anyone using travis? how do you normally start webdriver-manager?
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[02:28:36] <deweydb> i've actually wanted that exact solution before. to watch the parsed value of an attribute and not the actual value. and i thought it was only possible with isolated scope
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[02:28:55] <deweydb> dsdeiz: no clue. sorry.
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[02:33:31] <sekyms> wafflej0ck_: you around?
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[02:37:42] <jaawerth> deweydb: well, attributes generally aren't parsed UNLESS youo use bracket notation in them or isolate scope. I find it interesting that ngShow isn't doing that
[02:38:05] <jaawerth> but then I suppose they don't want to create a new scope
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[02:38:08] <jaawerth> /isolate
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[02:41:50] <mubi> hey guys, got thing here, I’m using a form
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[02:42:12] <mubi> and I’m calling a controller method with ng-click on the submite button
[02:42:31] <mubi> not using form method=“post” action=“www.xample.com/something.cgi”
[02:42:38] <mubi> in the html
[02:42:39] <mubi> BUT
[02:43:03] <mubi> I’m trying to get chrome to detect the password field and offer to save the password once I login
[02:43:35] <mubi> but this doesn’t occur if I use angular’s http.post method within the controller, only if i use the method=“post” action in the form html
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[02:50:37] <deweydb> jaawerth: exactly! and isolated scope isn't always what one needs, especially with multiple directive on a single element.
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[02:53:47] <Trindaz> Has anyone made a custom POJO serializer for use in watch functions? I imagine the problem of getting a string representation of an object (alphabetical key ordering, avoiding circular reference errors) would be pretty commong
[02:53:52] <Trindaz> does angular have something like this built in?
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[02:58:29] <wafflej0ck_> sekyms: sort of reading up on installing gitlab manually
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[02:58:51] <sekyms> wafflej0ck_: if you get a second, or need a break, can I show you something?
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[02:59:12] <wafflej0ck_> sekyms: shoot I need to backup my server and some stuff but will pop back in a sec
[02:59:28] <sekyms> having issues with this
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[02:59:39] <sekyms> says userService is not defined
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[02:59:45] <sekyms> not sure why
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[03:00:38] <deweydb> don't put it in your fucntion
[03:00:44] <deweydb> oh wait
[03:00:45] <deweydb> sorry
[03:00:46] <deweydb> nm
[03:01:31] <deweydb> which line does it say that on?
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[03:01:45] <deweydb> 9?
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[03:03:06] <sekyms> yeah on the promise line
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[03:03:34] <wafflej0ck_> sekyms: your list in the [] doesn't match the function parameters I don't think
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[03:03:43] <wafflej0ck_> sekyms: typically I leave off the annotations and let ngAnnotate take care of it
[03:03:50] <wafflej0ck_> too easy to mess that up
[03:03:53] <after_r> Why is this throwing an exception? 50.171.144.90/testapp/
[03:04:00] <sekyms> doh
[03:04:04] <sekyms> no $sce
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[03:04:12] <after_r> in the console it will say: Error: $animate.enter(...) is undefined
[03:04:31] <sekyms> man tired eyes are tired
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[03:04:39] <sekyms> thanks guys
[03:04:48] <deweydb> wafflej0ck_: thats cool, did not know about ngAnnotate
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[03:05:17] <wafflej0ck_> deweydb: yeah I screwed up the annotations soo much before I started using that
[03:05:35] <wafflej0ck_> deweydb: would catch me up all the time cause of not including one in the string list or switching order and get weird errors
[03:05:46] <after_r> er er refresh it now
[03:05:48] <deweydb> yeah, definitely seems like a pain to manage
[03:05:53] <deweydb> i've been leaving them out so far
[03:05:57] <deweydb> but i haven't tried to minify yet
[03:06:05] <wafflej0ck_> deweydb: yeah need ngAnnotate for the minification
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[03:06:10] <wafflej0ck_> deweydb: it works pretty well though
[03:06:28] <deweydb> probably could just put ngAnnotate into a grunt task along with the minifier
[03:06:35] <wafflej0ck_> deweydb: yup
[03:06:37] <deweydb> im guessing someone already wrote a recipe for that
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[03:06:52] <after_r> If i remove the ngANimate module from my app.. it works
[03:07:02] <deweydb> oh, actually im using gulp. but same diff.
[03:07:05] <after_r> why does ngAnimate make ngInclude look for a animation.enter?
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[03:07:07] <wafflej0ck_> deweydb: yeah think I just added ngAnnotate to the stuff in the yo angular generator one and took out rev
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[03:08:19] <wafflej0ck_> deweydb: rev or filerev I've had problems with regarding when it's supposed replace the names of images and some other things, sure with some standardized ways of loading them it would be fine but sometimes ran into issues with it not worth debugging for me
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[03:10:13] <sekyms> wafflej0ck_: can I do promise.then(promise2)
[03:10:22] <dsdeiz> i don't see angular-seed running 'webdriver-manager start'.. am i missing something?
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[03:10:26] <numenor> Hello, I have to build an app in which things on pages will change drastically based on privileges , I initially planned to do ng-if and all but it might become too messy, So I wonder if I can somehow load different partials and controllers based on user privileges, I will be using UI-router.
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[03:11:07] <wafflej0ck_> sekyms: well you can have the then fire off a request for another thing that returns a promise, and if you return that from the initial then function I'm pretty sure any subsequent then's would wait on the second promise
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[03:12:55] <wafflej0ck_> sekyms: if you want to do something after multiple promises you want $q.all([list,of,promises]).then()
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[03:13:51] <sekyms> i have to do something with the return of the first promise to call the second one so im not sure that wil work
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[03:15:39] <wafflej0ck_> sekyms: yeah check out the docs about the promise and using .then, it actually returns a new promise and depends on what you return from the initial handler you write for the then function
[03:16:10] <after_r> does anyone know why my app throws an exception if I have ngAnimate as a dependency?
[03:16:27] <wafflej0ck_> should be able to do something like promise1.then(function(){return $http.get('someData.json');}).then(function(resp){})
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[03:24:47] <wsmoak> interesting… the book (AngularJS Up and Running) talks about <input type=date, but… I only see input[date] in the 1.3 docs, not the 1.2.19 they say the book is based on.
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[03:26:06] <wafflej0ck_> wsmoak: I forget but don't think the date input type has a consistent user experience across browers so have always gone with third party directives for that
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[03:27:19] <sekyms> thanks wafflej0ck_
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<after_r> does anyone know why my app throws an exception if I have ngAnimate as a dependency? example here: http://50.171.144.90/testapp/
[03:37:01] <deweydb> are you including ngAnimate ?
[03:37:12] <after_r> yes
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[03:37:29] <after_r> "Error: $animate.enter(...) is undefined is the exception
[03:37:32] <deweydb> TypeError: Cannot read property 'then' of undefined
[03:37:36] <deweydb> is what im getting
[03:37:37] <after_r> ""Error: $animate.enter(...) is undefined"
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[03:38:17] <after_r> deweydb: what file/line ?
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[03:43:59] <after_r> hmm its working now deweydb
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[03:44:06] <after_r> I did a update
[03:44:15] <dsdeiz> how do you normally start 'webdriver-manager start' in the background?
[03:44:23] <dsdeiz> or only when running tests?
[03:44:43] <deweydb> after_r: so you're good?
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[03:45:37] <after_r> deweydb: I think so.. it might be a missing file
[03:45:40] <after_r> in my real app
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[03:49:25] <egekhter> hello
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[03:50:05] <Fuzzier> greetz
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[03:50:33] <egekhter> is anybody available for paid remote angularjs help?
[03:51:44] <after_r> egekhter: how much money?
[03:51:57] <after_r> I might be available
[03:52:24] <after_r> im a little tied up with personal project though
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[03:52:42] <egekhter> after_r: $50 for first hour, and then $25 for each additional hour
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[03:54:01] <after_r> :)
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[03:54:25] <after_r> its easier to make that money by sitting in a meeting
[03:54:33] <after_r> doing nothing
[03:54:44] <egekhter> what kind of a meeting?
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[03:55:08] <Fuzzier> lol
[03:55:22] <Fuzzier> bored ppl on ehre will give u a lot of help for free
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[03:55:48] <knas> How would one write a custom directive that works alongside ng-click and performs operations before and after the function passed into ng-click?
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[03:56:03] <nesquerra> egekhter: what was your question?
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[03:56:45] <knas> I want to disable buttons right when an ng-click gets fired and then enable the button after the ng-click function returns a promise
[03:57:04] <after_r> egekhter: sprint meeting
[03:57:09] <knas> so that you can't just spam a button to make a bunch of request. It would disable the button until the response for the server comes back
[03:57:28] <deweydb> knas: just use your own directive. don't use ng-click
[03:57:41] <after_r> egekhter: sprint review meeting
[03:57:44] <deweydb> and then you can add a debounce to it
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[03:57:58] <egekhter> i have a custom module and directive inside with a function - i want to call that function from a completely separate template
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[03:58:43] <deweydb> oh also you could do it with ng-click
[03:58:45] <knas> deweydb: so I would just have a ng.bind on click within my custom directive
[03:58:45] <deweydb> and do that in a controller
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[03:59:12] <knas> cause ng click catches a bunch of actions like touch and whatnot
[03:59:24] <knas> and I feel like it wouldn't be as DRY if I had all that repeated in my directive
[03:59:27] <deweydb> ng-click="myFunc" ... myFunc() { if(!alreadyGettingData) { alreadyGettingData=true; getData() }
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[03:59:51] <knas> right. But I want this to be scalable and as dry as possible
[03:59:56] <knas> if I had hundreds of buttons that made calls
[04:00:06] <knas> I don't want to put a flag to check if it's getting data in every controller function
[04:00:28] <knas> I just want a custom directive that automatically makes the calls I want before and after an ng click
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[04:00:40] <knas> deweydb: thanks for helping me out btw =]
[04:00:46] <deweydb> so make your own custom directive like i said at first?
[04:00:58] <deweydb> look at angular source
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[04:01:05] <deweydb> steal what they do for ngclick
[04:01:10] <deweydb> and extend it in a way you want
[04:01:14] <knas> yeah that sounds good.
[04:01:20] <knas> I was leaning more on that way
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[04:03:38] <knas> hmm maybe you can help me with a better solution.. I want to overlay a transparent div over my entire app when http calls are going out so that you can't make other actions inbetween
[04:04:09] <knas> I would use an http interceptor, but there's a chance where you click a button fast enough that it will still send two calls out
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[04:04:34] <knas> so that's why I wanted the turning off and on of that overlay as a custom directive
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[04:06:42] <deweydb> yeah, just do a debounce within a directive
[04:06:48] <deweydb> the overlay div sounds like a hack
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[04:07:10] <deweydb> are you using promises?
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[04:07:35] <knas> yeah assume the functions being called for an ng-click is returning a promise
[04:08:59] <knas> hmm but there are cases where click one button would need to disable several other buttons, not just itself
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[04:09:59] <knas> but you're right, the overlay div does sound like a hack
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[04:10:13] <knas> and honestly, not very good ux
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[04:12:01] <deweydb> something like that
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[04:12:40] <egekhter> can somebody explain this syntax: (function(timeline){})(angular.module('appTimeline', []));
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[04:13:55] <deweydb> knas: why woudl it need to disable other buttons?
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[04:14:04] <deweydb> knas: maybe you just need a service
[04:14:11] <deweydb> and queue the requests if that is what your worried about
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[04:14:39] <knas> deweydb: thanks! I'll mess with that
[04:14:46] <deweydb> knas... one sec
[04:14:47] <knas> well, I have a really long form
[04:14:58] <knas> and then a submit at the bottom
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[04:15:10] <knas> and the request to submit takes a really long time since a lot is happening
[04:15:15] <knas> and I don't want them to mess with the form in the middle of it
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[04:15:36] <deweydb> but haven't you already serialized everything?
[04:15:43] <wafflej0ck_> egekhter: looks like a weird way to use an IIFE
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[04:16:13] <egekhter> yeah I'm pretty confused inherited an angular app
[04:16:48] <wafflej0ck_> egekhter: it's passing the module into the function, typically I've only seen this for making swapping out a given dependency easier and to keep things out of global space
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[04:17:03] <egekhter> there's a controller and 5 directives inside
[04:17:19] <knas> I actually still have objects that are still being referenced from within the controller. I suppose I just need an ng.copy
[04:17:34] <knas> let's just say there's a lot going on in the submit and it is using and manipulating several objects
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[04:18:00] <wafflej0ck_> egekhter: yeah typically I use an IIFE on my code too so I have the function version of 'strict' and for the other little advantages I mentioned but haven't seen someone pass the module in that way
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[04:18:34] <egekhter> yeah I've been studying the angular documentation and couldn't see a similar pattern...
[04:19:06] <wafflej0ck_> yup I mean I've only been exposed to what I do and what others in the chat here do and a couple of angular projects but haven't seen that one once
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[04:19:44] <wafflej0ck_> I mean I suppose you can change which module all that stuff attaches to
[04:19:52] <wafflej0ck_> but don't know why that's an advantage really
[04:20:03] <egekhter> even with the non-standard syntax, do you think it'd be possible to access some of the $scope functions from another controller?
[04:20:23] <wafflej0ck_> egekhter: typically communication between controllers is handled with a service
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[04:20:40] <wafflej0ck_> egekhter: there are some cases where events will work but usually a service is better long term solution
[04:21:00] <wafflej0ck_> syntax here shouldn't really matter it's just strange
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[04:22:38] <egekhter> what i have is a timeline custom module, with a fast forward and rewind button that goes to the beginning/end of the timeline...i wanted to move those buttons to another part of the UI, but that part is in a different template
[04:23:17] <egekhter> im checking it out
[04:23:21] <wafflej0ck_> egekhter: yeah with a service doesn't matter where the UI parts are, basically you can use a service/factory/provider to store the data that's then referenced in multiple places
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[04:27:01] <wafflej0ck_> egekhter: basically service and factory (or value or constant) are different ways of definining a provider, if your service/factory needs some configuration to be done on a per app basis (like the url route provider bits beign setup in .config()) then you need the full blown provider (which honestly is simple too) but otherwise typically use the factory or service "recipes" or syntax
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[04:50:48] <hecatonicosachor> zumba_ad_, yes, ng-controller has niche usefulness
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[05:14:36] <jcool> how can we change date format of date being stored in model?
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[05:15:52] <jcool> I am able to change the display date for users. but date taht goes to model is sma e longone.
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[06:54:25] <TheAceOfHearts> guru?
[06:54:26] <TheAceOfHearts> I mean
[06:54:28] <TheAceOfHearts> I use lodash
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[06:54:41] <TheAceOfHearts> how good do you have to be to be a guru on it?
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[06:54:46] <TheAceOfHearts> it's a pretty small lib, all things considered
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[06:59:23] <jaydubya> I think I need to use _.reduce but I can't get it to work
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[07:00:55] <TheAceOfHearts> just iterate over the keys and check if it has the loan_arm value
[07:00:59] <TheAceOfHearts> if it does, add it to the total
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[07:10:42] <duellsy> is it possible to rename angular somehow inside our project? we're getting issues when our widget is loaded on a site that is already using angular
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[07:13:43] <TheAceOfHearts> jesus, pulling in angular for a widget?
[07:13:50] <TheAceOfHearts> what does the widget do that it requires angular?
[07:14:14] <duellsy> needs it for routing, http, and binding of variables
[07:14:46] <TheAceOfHearts> why don't you load it in an iframe?
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[07:15:26] <duellsy> our previous version was iframed, caused way too many headaches with getting access to the parent page
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[07:15:51] <TheAceOfHearts> well
[07:15:57] <TheAceOfHearts> you could call bootstrap manually on your app
[07:16:09] <TheAceOfHearts> I don't think it would cause any issues
[07:16:15] <TheAceOfHearts> I dunno if you can have an angular app nested in another app, though
[07:16:17] <TheAceOfHearts> idk what would happen
[07:16:32] <TheAceOfHearts> so as long as your dom element is outside of the other angular app it should be alright
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[07:16:49] <duellsy> yeah, we're doing that, but it still has the problem of crashing because angular gets loaded twice
[07:17:12] <TheAceOfHearts> if (!window.angular) { /* load angular */ }
[07:17:19] <TheAceOfHearts> but you're gonna have trouble
[07:17:25] <TheAceOfHearts> because people could be using different versions of angular
[07:17:47] <TheAceOfHearts> even then, if it finds an ng-app it'll probably try to bootstrap on that
[07:17:50] <duellsy> we're pulling in angular using require.js, i'm not sure we're able to do something like that with require, and also, yeah, versions
[07:18:08] <TheAceOfHearts> dunno, I've never tried something like that
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[07:18:22] <duellsy> I haven't been able to find anything anywhere on the web
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[07:18:37] <TheAceOfHearts> I don't think angular is designed to be used like that
[07:18:44] <sacho> well, the solution would be to fork angular and convert it to a module pattern
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[07:18:53] <sacho> owen1, ask him?
[07:19:27] <TheAceOfHearts> duellsy: you'll still have trouble with angular libs and such
[07:19:31] <owen1> i thought people here will know. i havn't touched angular recently
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[07:19:52] <duellsy> yeah definitely, that's the issue we have when we attempt his technique
[07:20:29] <TheAceOfHearts> you'll probably have to vendor libs yourself
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[07:20:34] <TheAceOfHearts> and make em register angular on your own thing
[07:20:35] <TheAceOfHearts> ugh
[07:20:42] <duellsy> vom!
[07:20:43] <duellsy> ha
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[07:20:51] <TheAceOfHearts> I'd hate your widget for pulling in angular, though
[07:20:59] <TheAceOfHearts> marketo bs pulls in jquery for some ungodly reason
[07:21:03] <TheAceOfHearts> as if they needed all of jquery
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[07:21:36] <duellsy> yeah, our next version if we can we'll be rewriting without it, but at this stage it provided so much for us
[07:21:40] <beilabs> Hi people. Complete newbie here. Learning angular today for the first time.
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[07:22:50] <TheAceOfHearts> I dunno
[07:22:58] <TheAceOfHearts> I'd just use browserify and pull in smaller modules :P
[07:23:08] <TheAceOfHearts> I guess it depends on how complicated your widget is
[07:23:13] <beilabs> working on a cordova app; quick question. Most people using grunt for their app management?
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[07:23:41] <TheAceOfHearts> most people?
[07:23:42] <TheAceOfHearts> probably not
[07:23:44] <TheAceOfHearts> some people use it
[07:23:53] <TheAceOfHearts> most people don't even know it exists, I'd say
[07:24:01] <duellsy> it's pretty complicated, but it looks like we don't have much of a choice, we're going to have to rewrite :/
[07:24:04] <beilabs> well, for anjular devs...standard yet?
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[07:24:18] <TheAceOfHearts> Grunt is cool for smaller apps
[07:24:22] <TheAceOfHearts> but it gets unwieldy for complicated apps
[07:24:25] <TheAceOfHearts> I use gulp
[07:24:33] <TheAceOfHearts> gulp is more obvious in what it's doing
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[07:24:35] <beilabs> TheAceOfHearts: oh thanks.
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[07:24:52] <beilabs> brand new to JS dev so trying to get my bearings....first of many questions.
[07:25:01] <TheAceOfHearts> sure
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[07:25:25] <duellsy> TheAceOfHearts the biggest benefit we've got that I'm unsure where else to get easily, is the two way binding. Know of good alternatives should we move away from angular?
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[07:25:52] <beilabs> next question is from a testing perspective. Karma + Jasmine the way to go?
[07:26:07] <beilabs> + a bit of selenium for acceptance testing
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[07:26:33] <TheAceOfHearts> I dunno, I'm not longer in love with two-way data binding
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[07:26:38] <TheAceOfHearts> no*
[07:26:45] <duellsy> no?
[07:26:56] <TheAceOfHearts> imo, it's great for getting stuff up and running
[07:27:03] <TheAceOfHearts> but it's really easy to end up with complicated code
[07:27:09] <TheAceOfHearts> unless you have good discipline
[07:27:11] <TheAceOfHearts> and it's kinda slow too
[07:27:27] <TheAceOfHearts> I'm not really old on react, but I like a lot of the ideas I've seen from em
[07:27:38] <TheAceOfHearts> i'm pretty sure there's lots of small data binding libs out there, though
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[07:29:23] <duellsy> nice, the main reason we were using binding was to make it easier for us to know when to hide and show certain things really
[07:29:49] <TheAceOfHearts> I mean, angular is great, don't get me wrong
[07:30:13] <TheAceOfHearts> you just might not need it, I suppose
[07:30:15] <duellsy> haha for sure
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[07:30:45] <duellsy> but yeah, it works a treat for us, and for any site that *isnt* already using angular
[07:31:10] <TheAceOfHearts> I think without an iframe you're boned :(
[07:31:23] <TheAceOfHearts> can't you just have an app outside that passes data in to the iframe?
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[07:31:49] <duellsy> we previously had that, but there were too many cross protocol / cross domain issues
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[07:35:04] <duellsy> additionally, we load 3rd party clients like chat into our widget, they need to see window.location as being the actual pages window, not the iframes window.location, and from inside an iframe, we can't get the parent window information for security reasons
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[08:08:35] <brock__> can anyone help?
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[08:18:34] <stormbytes> evening
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[08:19:32] <stormbytes> i have a factory that is initialized by a controller, by calling service.init(). that function sets a variable 'books' to a list of books. However when (in subsequent calls) I try to retrieve the varialbe, it comes back undefined
[08:19:44] <stormbytes> do these not persist in the dom?
[08:20:08] <stormbytes> does this mean anytime i want to call a method that uses that same data file it needs to re-download it?
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[08:34:52] <rabbi1> sacho: still 'id' is display in the model
[08:34:57] <rabbi1> input element
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[08:35:46] <sacho> isn't that exactly what you wanted...?
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[08:42:16] <sacho> er, why are you using a super old version of angular bootstrap?
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[08:42:27] <rabbi1> sacho: I want title to be displayed with a item is selected, not the id.. and i can do it with only item.title but in the model i want it to store item.id….
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[08:42:41] <rabbi1> works great with ng-options, but not same with typeahead … :(
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[08:43:40] <sacho> have you tried using a more recent version of ui-bootstrap?
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[08:44:05] <rabbi1> sacho: yeap
[08:44:13] <rabbi1> i am using the latest ui-bootsrap
[08:44:43] <rabbi1> nope, the previous version
[08:44:59] <rabbi1> 0.11.2
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[08:48:02] <rabbi1> ok, tried the latest one, but it's same no difference at all
[08:48:08] <sacho> ok well, here's one way to do it
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[08:56:15] <testerde> Hola! I have a simple question: Is there any possibility to have a view value "recalculated" each time the model changes? In concrete, I have a scope variable inside a directives controller, that is the result of a scope function, that is only run once the directive is created. I need the scope variable to run the function each time something changes. Is there any way for that?
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[08:58:15] <cirly> hai ,, how angularjs countdown
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[09:00:05] <beilabs> hola, unusual issue here. I'm contemplating building a cordova app + angularjs; i need to target really early android devices (2.1); how well supported is angularjs in these early versions?
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[09:00:52] <venkatesh> how to build angularjs using node.js
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[09:02:24] <wafflej0ck_> testerde: sounds like you're looking for scope.$watch('property',function(newVal,oldVal){});
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[09:03:55] <rabbi1> sacho: yeah, that is good enough, thank you
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[09:04:38] <wafflej0ck_> beilabs: believe angular works pretty far back on chrome versions just has problems with older versions of IE from what I've seen..... What browsers does Angular work with?
[09:04:38] <wafflej0ck_> We run our extensive test suite against the following browsers: Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Opera 15, IE9 and mobile browsers (Android, Chrome Mobile, iOS Safari). See Internet Explorer Compatibility for more details in supporting legacy IE browsers.
[09:04:45] <rabbi1> sacho: i think i can better of working that out in the controller with out an extra on-select …. will get the object and the from there will get the id, in the controller it self, this is better
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[09:04:59] <wafflej0ck_> venkatesh: the question doesn't entirely make sense as stated
[09:05:11] <sacho> rabbi1, I honestly don't know why typeahead behaves that way, I can vaguely guess it's applying the label on the model when it needs to set a view value, so if you set the model to just the id, it doesn't have enough information to set the view value
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[09:06:02] <rabbi1> sacho: perfect, but there should be that difference from ng-option, ng-repeat and typeahead...
[09:06:04] <wafflej0ck_> venkatesh: you can use NodeJS as the backend for an app and AngularJS as the front end (static files served up from some web server), or you can "build" a bunch of source JS into a minified concatenated version using NodeJS modules like grunt
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[09:07:48] <venkatesh> super ans, nodejs is using for js and so firebase what for use
[09:07:50] <testerde> WTF... Is there a way to bind a value of a prepopulated textarea to a scope variable? it empties my textarea all the time ... :(
[09:07:52] <wafflej0ck_> beilabs: consider ionic framework
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[09:08:32] <wafflej0ck_> testerde: show what you're doing in a plunkr, there's no problem setting up a model with a string in advance then binding that to the ng-model for the textarea
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[09:09:31] <wafflej0ck_> venkatesh: not sure what language firebase was written in but there is angularFire to communicate with the firebase backend using angular
[09:09:32] <sacho> testerde, sure, in your link function, do something like myvar = element.val()
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[09:09:57] <wafflej0ck_> Grokling: ah cool good to know
[09:10:17] <wafflej0ck_> just got my Android 5.0 on my Nexus 10 liking it so far
[09:10:24] <wafflej0ck_> wish it came to my phone already though :)
[09:11:07] <wafflej0ck_> managed to wrestle gitlab into position mostly it seems... still will have to enable some things for SSL but will leave that for tomorrow
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[09:11:54] <venkatesh> beginners has any tutorials
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[09:12:57] <testerde> am I doint it wrong?
[09:13:16] <wafflej0ck_> testerde: sorry what's supposed to be happening here... or what do you want to have happen, just populate the textarea with default text?
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[09:13:36] <testerde> wafflej0ck_: no, I expect console.log to print out "foobar" as this is the prepopulated text
[09:13:49] <testerde> wafflej0ck_: but instead it prints out undefined and empties the textarea
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[09:13:52] <wafflej0ck_> testerde: yeah you don't populate the text that way with angular
[09:13:57] <wafflej0ck_> you need the model to drive the view
[09:13:59] <wafflej0ck_> not the other way around
[09:14:06] <testerde> wafflej0ck_: but I need some way to do it so :D
[09:14:14] <wafflej0ck_> testerde: what's the use case really?
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[09:14:28] <venkatesh> thanks and how to use localhost with port number
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[09:15:02] <testerde> wafflej0ck_: integration into an e learning system where I have only client side textfields, that will be populated. No way to have any bypass from a controller
[09:15:03] <venkatesh> i'm install node.exe and git also
[09:15:21] <wafflej0ck_> testerde: $scope.demo = 'foobar'; //what's wrong with this in the controller
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[09:15:52] <wafflej0ck_> venkatesh: you mean how do you run the server from a different port? or?
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[09:16:05] <venkatesh> yah
[09:16:34] <testerde> wafflej0ck_: no access to the controller. Think like this: the whole data will be prepopulated into one textfield. There is sadly no other way round to integrate this (I'm just finishing my bachelor thesis about this design ;))
[09:17:20] <wafflej0ck_> testerde: it doesn't really make sense to access anything in the DOM from the angular controller
[09:17:35] <wafflej0ck_> it breaks testability and reusability/modularity of code
[09:17:38] <testerde> wafflej0ck_: I know it's not nice, but I have to
[09:17:50] <venkatesh> not different port i want to open localhost:8080/# then # mean index page
[09:17:56] <testerde> wafflej0ck_: requirement wishes... ;)
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[09:19:23] <wafflej0ck_> testerde: console.log(document.getElementById('test').innerHTML); $scope.demo=document.getElementById('test').innerHTML;
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[09:19:33] <wafflej0ck_> testerde: don't say I didn't tell you it wasn't a good idea ;)
[09:19:44] <wafflej0ck_> would have to give the textarea an id
[09:19:49] <wafflej0ck_> called it 'test' here
[09:19:54] <testerde> yeah yeah
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[09:20:38] <wafflej0ck_> venkatesh: # is not sent to the server from the browser it's used within the browser (traditionally for linking to anchors labels in the page)
[09:21:05] <wafflej0ck_> venkatesh: so localhost:8080/# will go for index.html assuming you have that set as the index file for the server config
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[09:23:03] <wafflej0ck_> venkatesh: if you need to change the server to listen on port 8080 then you need to check the config for whatever server your running
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[09:23:19] <wafflej0ck_> with Apache looks like Listen *:80 in the config
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[09:24:01] <ngbot> angular.js/master d5968c7 Peter Bacon Darwin: docs(CHANGELOG): add 1.3.3 changes
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[09:25:07] <tombee> I'm using controllerAs: 'vm' in the route for this controller/view, and I've managed to get the bound variables to use 'vm' instead of $scope
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[09:25:36] <soee> when using ui-router, can i update some named view (reload template) when some other action is done like, inside some controller record is cretaed ?
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[09:25:52] <tombee> I'm trying to figure out why that when I swap $scope for vm for the functions, the functions called by the view (ngClick) stopped working
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[09:26:27] <wafflej0ck_> soee: do you just want to change out the data or you actually want to load a different template?
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[09:27:00] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: did you prefix them with vm. as well... not sure if it's required but worth a shot
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[09:27:51] <wafflej0ck_> soee: if you want to share data between controllers you're looking at a service and or factory (or provider, whatever) to be a common data store
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[09:27:57] <tombee> I swapped the call to go() there for vm.go()
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[09:28:49] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: line 16 in that other file shouldn't it be vm.go = function ?
[09:29:01] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: I'm new to the whole controllerAs thing as well
[09:29:12] <tombee> wafflej0ck_: Yeah, I've changed it to vm.go locally
[09:29:15] <wafflej0ck_> been using angular for a while but just been ignorning that
[09:29:23] <wafflej0ck_> hmm
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[09:29:34] <tombee> wafflej0ck_: once I have it working, I'll commit the change to be reviewed by the project owners
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[09:31:28] <testerde> wafflej0ck_: thanks you helped me a lot :)
[09:31:41] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: I haven't defined my objects as "JS classes" but apparently that's the go to according to that little sample
[09:31:49] <Rafzzz> wafflej0ck_++
[09:31:50] <wafflej0ck_> testerde: cool glad to help
[09:31:51] <UniBot> wafflej0ck_ Karma: 1
[09:32:08] <wafflej0ck_> thx Rafzzz
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[09:32:59] <Grokling> Woah.. UniBot is fast at the moment..
[09:33:17] <soee> wafflej0ck_: im creating some records and if one is created or deleted, i need to update counters in separate page section, so in main view i have form, and in user navigation counters for various records types
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[09:34:00] <Rafzzz> soee: preserve state in a service, present that state in a view with controllers
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[09:34:11] <tombee> wafflej0ck_: yeah the ngController directive isn't being used in this project either, views and controllers are tied together with routes
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[09:35:30] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: that shouldn't really make a difference as far as I know, I mean should be the same as if it were defined with ng-controller effectively
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[09:36:25] <wafflej0ck_> soee: instead of getting the data from a remote server it could be the array is just defined in the service and methods in the service let either controller manipulate the data
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[09:39:33] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: hmm yeah just found an article that seems to say the vm.go version should have worked too
[09:39:38] <soee> wafflej0ck_: but if i get this data from service (on first poge load) so than ok th counters are set, but than if i add new records, how will i trigger the counters update
[09:40:19] <wafflej0ck_> soee: so long as both views are pointing to a data object in this service anytime you update the data you just need to be sure a scope.$apply() occurs
[09:40:48] <wafflej0ck_> soee: with $http that happens automatically for you when it resolves the data, and with ng-click it does it when the click handler calls the function you supplied to ng-click
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[09:41:16] <wafflej0ck_> if you do some action to the data outside the angular context then you'll have to call scope.$apply() to cause any $watchers to be updated
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[09:42:03] <wafflej0ck_> so like if you have some DOM event handler
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[09:43:02] <wafflej0ck_> like $document.bind("click", function(){scope.myModel="newValue";}) //Don't do any of this You would really need $document.bind("click", function(){scope.myModel="newValue"; scope.$apply(); }); for this to work
[09:43:11] <wafflej0ck_> or for it to cause the view to update at least
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[09:43:33] <soee> wafflej0ck_: cool, thank you. i think im missing some angular basics :/
[09:43:50] <wafflej0ck_> soee: yeah just search $scope $apply $watch $digest
[09:44:05] <wafflej0ck_> soee: it all goes together and has to do with how the "magical binding" happens
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[09:44:31] <wafflej0ck_> soee: good to understand a bit of the performance implications of the system as is and why bind-once is good
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[09:46:30] <soee> so first delete id ok, i have confirmation message, than second click record is removed but without confirmation message but this error
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[09:46:53] <wafflej0ck_> soee: this happens if a change to the model triggers another change to the model and that happens 10 times without the model ever settling down
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[09:47:11] <wafflej0ck_> soee: so yes related to the binding and watchers
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[09:49:22] <wafflej0ck_> soee: basically angular wants to see anything that is being watched get into a "settled" state where it stops changing after all the functions for the last digest occurred because it's okay if a change causes another change, but if that keeps happening there's not really a way for the computer to know if it will ever end so it just quits after trying to update everything 10 times with no ultimate result from all the watchers
[09:50:11] <wafflej0ck_> at least that's how I understand it
[09:50:14] <wafflej0ck_> could be wrong
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[09:53:36] <venkatesh> i want to run server in localhost u know any repository in github i will clone that
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[09:53:59] <tombee> wafflej0ck_: I assume it's something to do with the $location dependency :)
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[09:55:32] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: hmm strange not exactly sure
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[09:55:52] <tombee> wafflej0ck_: lines 20 and 25 work fine :)
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[09:56:51] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: you got rid of $scope do you see any errors in the console
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[09:57:05] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: if you got rid of $scope you make sure you get rid of both the string and param?
[09:57:08] <tombee> wafflej0ck_: nope!
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[09:57:29] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: try taking that out see if it helps... not sure again though
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[09:58:53] <tombee> ah, doh
[09:58:56] <tombee> Error: undefined is not an object (evaluating 'this.e.id')
[09:59:03] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: ah okay
[09:59:07] <wafflej0ck_> needed vm there eh
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[09:59:16] <wafflej0ck_> yeah overlooked that too :P
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[09:59:53] <tombee> wafflej0ck_: hmm what should it be, vm.e.id doesn't work :/
[10:00:18] <tombee> e is defined in the view
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[10:00:33] <tombee> I should probably pass e into the function perhaps
[10:00:33] <wafflej0ck_> would have guessed the same e.id is bound to a text box
[10:00:48] <venkatesh> thank u
[10:00:52] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: yeah probably wouldn't hurt
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[10:02:19] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: you sure it just doesn't work if the view hasn't been changed yet to create e.id?
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[10:02:37] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: like if you haven't chosen an option or something
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[10:03:47] <tombee> e is created by the ng-repeat :)
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[10:07:03] <wafflej0ck_> tombee: ah yeah will want to pass e into the function then it shouldn't get added to the scope really (think it creates a new scope for each iteration using the iterant in that child scope)
[10:07:25] <tombee> Yeah I've passed it in :)
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[10:08:47] <tombee> That's how it looks now, hurray!
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[10:35:22] <glontu> hi
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[10:35:43] <glontu> i want to make a websocket service that will emit events into my app
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[10:36:00] <glontu> question is ... how to make sure this service is allways created and tries to connect no matter what ?
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[10:36:47] <raj___> Hi, I'm trying to understand angular. Why would I use angular.isDefined when I can just simply do undefined === variable ?
[10:36:50] <glontu> i don't want to have to inject it in order to work ... i just want it to start the connection no matter what route or state the app is in
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[10:40:39] <raj___> I just figured out it out by reading the relevant source. It is a convenience function and nothing more.
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[10:41:13] <raj___> the definition of angular.isDefined is a single line that checks typeof variable === 'undefined' which is the same thing
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[10:43:42] <kba> raj___: and there's also a difference between doing x === undefined and typeof x === 'undefined'
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[10:44:04] <kba> and isDefined is using typeof, as you said, which is "safer" in a way
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<folippi> I'm storing my data in localStorage, and am looking to create a $scope.$watch() function that keeps track of the localStorage, and when it changes update a variable on the $scope. How can I set up a $watch to keep track of the content of localStorage, and if it's changed update a $scope.variable? This is the best I'm coming up with so far http://pastebin.com/dnXVcABT
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[10:48:04] <kba> folippi: I wouldn't make a watch on localStorage, but instead create a service that managed all this. Then whenever you call your StorageService.addSomething() or whatever, you can broadcast the event.
[10:48:22] <kba> the advantage to this is that whenever you need to save somthing, you use StorageService, not localStorage directly
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[10:48:43] <kba> so if you later want to use something other than localStorage, you just have to change your StorageService, you don't have to make changes all over your application
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[10:48:59] <folippi> That's what I do already, I have a service called "WindowStateService" in the pastebin. Do you wish to see it's source?
[10:49:07] <kba> and watches are heavy, and since you know whenever the localStorage is changed, there's no reason to use a wathc
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[10:49:24] <folippi> How would you broadcast an event like that?
[10:50:04] <kba> or $emit, depending on your setting
[10:50:20] <folippi> Cool! Thank you. What's the difference between using $broadcast or $emit?
[10:50:42] <kba> it's described on the page. $broadcast broadcasts downwards, i.e. to all children
[10:50:46] <kba> $emit broadcasts upwards, to all parents
[10:50:53] <kba> it depends on who needs to listen for it
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[10:50:56] <folippi> kba: I see. Thank you so much!
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[10:51:45] <kba> you're welcome. And--this may not be best practice--but if you're in doubt about whether to use $emit or $broadcast, then $rootScope.$broadcast will obviously send it out *everywhere*
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[10:51:53] <kba> you can at least use that for testing
[10:51:55] <kba> and you're welcome, folippi
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[10:59:55] <dannyc> using ng-change on an input[type=text]. it fires every time there is a change when it's calling a function on it's scope. but when it's on the parent scope, it fires once when the page loads, and never again. but there are no errors, so it can obviously *see* that function. any ideas?
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[11:09:37] <Rafzzz> I'm relatively experienced, and I've got an unknown provider error, basically out of nowhere, the app's in production... Why are these so hard to debug? :<
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[11:18:57] <MisterLemons> dannyc what did you want it do to?
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[11:25:10] <slamgundam> hi
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[11:41:01] <dannyc> MisterLemons: fire everytime, as it should.
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[11:43:47] <MisterLemons> dannyc: so the ng-change is on the parent scope do you specify a ng-model on the input? Id be interested in seeing the code.
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[11:44:52] <soee> why 1.3.x versions are listed under Unstable ?
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[11:49:08] <sacho> listed where?
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[11:52:11] <dannyc> MisterLemons: unfortunately, i'm about to go into a meeting. if i get chance, i'll try and do a plunkr. thanks.
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[12:04:01] <rana_> hi
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[12:04:14] <rana_> I've a doubt regarding factories and services
[12:04:26] <rana_> is both same ??
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[12:27:57] <dannyc_> MisterLemons: you still around?
[12:28:18] <MisterLemons> dannyc_: Still here
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[12:28:26] <MisterLemons> lurking
[12:28:29] <MisterLemons> :)
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[12:30:00]
<dannyc_> MisterLemons: :) I've done a quick stripped down plunkr if you've got time to take a look. basically, i'm creating a form builder. i want to be able to pass a function down from the form directive into a field directive and have it called from ng-change. really struggling. i think i'm way off course :( http://plnkr.co/edit/Mzpb0T?p=preview
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[12:30:39] <dannyc_> MisterLemons: it's asking a lot, but any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
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[12:37:39] <MisterLemons> dannyc_: Still with me?
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[12:37:50] <dannyc_> yeah, lurking
[12:37:59] <MisterLemons> dannyc_: Change your featuresOnChange from & to =
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[12:38:43] <dannyc_> MisterLemons: oh, really? thought i wouldn't be able to *call it* that way. lemme try.
[12:39:09] <dannyc_> MisterLemons: stone me
[12:39:15] <MisterLemons> Seems to be some funny behaviour with the reference not being passed the way you would expect it to :( To be honest I don't fully understand it.
[12:39:21] <dannyc_> MisterLemons: it works (but you know that)
[12:39:25] <MisterLemons> :)
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[12:39:50] <dannyc_> thanks for the help, and thanks for your honesty. helps me not feel stoopid :)
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[12:40:17] <MisterLemons> Hey, if I knew everything I wouldn't be in this room :P
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[12:41:20] <dannyc_> :D
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[13:23:27] <jagga> I have a <select control which I update from an array of names from my controller (ng-options="bla.name for bla in blas) etcccc
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[13:23:38] <jagga> Now I have a default value which I set like <option value="" default selected>None Selected</option>
[13:23:46] <jagga> when I select this value, my model does not get changed
[13:23:53] <Tez> Hi All, Can any one know which frame work is good for forum(discussion) like application ?
[13:23:59] <jagga> I tried ng-selected="updateModel"
[13:24:04] <jagga> what would the right 1 be?
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[13:27:48] <raj___> If I don't specify a value for ng-app does that mean i am defining something like a "default" module?
[13:27:50] <BahamutWC|Laptop> Tez: well, if you care about the near-term, you should be using server-side templating for that for SEO reasons
[13:27:55] <dannyc_> does anyone know if or how you can compile a string into a function that can be called on the scope?
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[13:28:38] <BahamutWC|Laptop> jagga: <option value=“”> is the null option if it’s present
[13:28:51] <dannyc_> consider a user who can write a function in a textarea, and that can then be called as a result of event. yeah, i know it's silly and dangerous, but can anyone point me in the right direction?
[13:28:52] <jagga> I've done that
[13:28:57] <BahamutWC|Laptop> dannyc_: the $parse service perhaps?
[13:28:57] <jagga> let me share the full code. se
[13:28:58] <jagga> sec
[13:29:19] <dannyc_> BahamutWC|Laptop: $parse? ok, i'll take a look. thank you.
[13:29:20] <BahamutWC|Laptop> also you don’t need to put default or selected attributes
[13:29:28] <dannyc_> anyone else?
[13:29:47] <jagga> when I'm reselecting the None Selected option it's not reflecing on the model
[13:29:52] <jagga> It does not change it to empty
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[13:30:05] <BahamutWC|Laptop> hm, I don’t know if that’s an expected behavior
[13:30:32] <jagga> :(
[13:30:44] <jagga> so what if I want to set it to a particular value then?
[13:30:52] <jagga> how do I achieve that in the option
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[13:31:04] <jagga> doing value="bla" doesn't work
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[13:31:55] <minimoo1> what are possible situation a $scope.$on method will be called twice?
[13:32:06] <minimoo1> situations
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[13:32:15] <sacho> when you emit the event twice
[13:32:24] <sacho> or when you've registered .$on() twice
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[13:35:33] <jagga> hmm thanks for sharing that, I'm going to see what I'm doing different BahamutWC|Laptop
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[13:35:44] <BahamutWC|Laptop> np
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[13:36:13] <jagga> I'm doing some $location stuff when the value is changed
[13:36:25] <jagga> and the value is reset when the controller loads again based on the params
[13:36:27] <jagga> it must be something to do with that
[13:36:30] <jagga> I just need to spot where :E
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[13:37:07] <minimoo1> sacho, any other idea?
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[13:37:43] <sacho> minimoo1, make a plunker.
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[13:38:34] <jagga> Fixed it BahamutWC|Laptop : I basically check to see if it's null before doing any $location changes.
[13:38:36] <jagga> :
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[13:39:37] <jagga> now i can happily go to lunch!
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[13:39:43] <jagga> again, thx for your help
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[13:40:02] <BahamutWC|Laptop> np
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[13:47:50] <Tez> BahamutWC : Actually I am novice in Web UI frameworks searching for UI which is suitable having the flexibilty for features like 1. Forums 2.Code challeges
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[13:59:42] <\du> the only way to update bower package is changing manually the version in bower.json ?
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[14:14:05] <stephen> Hola
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[14:16:02] <_mu_> yo
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[14:16:12] <nerder> hello
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[14:17:38] <sacho> why are you returning the resolve function of a deferred?
[14:17:57] <sacho> perhaps you meant to return the promise
[14:18:02] <nerder> sacho: i will return the json that i get from the http request
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[14:18:22] <sacho> not really.
[14:18:24] <nerder> !! yeah!
[14:18:25] <angularnewb> hey all
[14:18:28] <nerder> my bad
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[14:18:33] <nerder> let me try :)
[14:18:39] <sacho> you don't need the deferred, anyway.
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[14:18:50] <nerder> why not?
[14:19:08] <nerder> how can't return inside of the $q.all right?
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[14:19:12] <sacho> return $q.all(...).then(function (..) { ... return trips }) <-- this returns a promise for trips.
[14:19:23] <angularnewb> need a hand if anyone can help. Got some ngAnimate issues when using ng-hide and ng-show with css animation, if I add a animation delay in CSS the element appears in bliock form, waits then animates, anyway to delay the show?
[14:19:26] <_mu_> yep, should return promise and resolve will contain the data
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[14:20:52] <Evil_Peach> how do I return to the controller or the scope in the controller only the values of the active fields?
[14:21:31] <sacho> not exactly
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[14:30:17] <nerder> *your
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[14:30:42] <ctanga> I’m debugging angular in IE8
[14:30:44] <ctanga> joy.
[14:30:55] <BahamutWC> ctanga: welcome to my world a year ago
[14:31:03] <BahamutWC> I found some interesting IE bugs with angular
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[14:32:48] <ctanga> damn. Missed an array.indexOf call
[14:32:53] <qrob> Hi, I have some difficulty integrating requirejs in an angular directive... if I include <script src="/folder/to/require.js" data-main="/folder/to/myjsapp"></script> in the template of <customdirective></customdirective> requirejs doesn't load... any suggestion?
[14:32:59] <sacho> nerder, yes? that's a promise
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[14:34:14] <BahamutWC> some of the things to watch out for are unpolyfilled methods like some Data prototypes
[14:34:16] <BahamutWC> Date*
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[14:34:22] <ctanga> yeah
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[14:34:30] <BahamutWC> console.log is another - need to set window.console
[14:34:31] <ctanga> I want to polyfill indexOf, map, filter, reduce
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[14:34:36] <theahindle> Doesn't make any sense :<
[14:34:43] <ctanga> should I just use the mdn ones?
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[14:35:01] <BahamutWC> there's an ES5 shim - I think it's necessary to even use angular
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[14:35:58] <ctanga> aah, cool
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[14:37:49] <nerder> sacho: and if i want to get back the json contained?
[14:38:35] <sacho> nerder, promise.then(function (trips) { //do things with trips })
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[14:38:55] <_mu_> yep @BahamutWC, i agree! both the Date, and console.log in ie8 chewed a good bit of time for me
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[14:40:57] <JonathanNeal> Grab whatever polyfills you want.
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[14:41:49] <ctanga> huh, now that’s interesting
[14:42:10] <Vikash> hey .. i have a simple html page .. and i want to include an app that in built in angular how can i include it in my current page suppose in '#container"
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[14:42:49] <_mu_> Vikash define ng-app on the div
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[14:43:05] <_mu_> *element i should say
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[14:44:36] <Vikash> _mu_ my how would i include that angular page using just ng-app?
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[14:46:18] <_mu_> Vikash is the angular app coming from another place/page? not code you already have?
[14:46:44] <Vikash> yes
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[14:46:54] <Vikash> it is coming from another page
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[14:48:42] <\du> $httpProvider.responseInterceptors isn't more avaireable in 1.3.4 ?
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[14:48:47] <duall> i have a ng-repeat with floated divs, is it possible to move boxes around with animation when one item is removed?
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[14:49:36] <_mu_> Vikash oh? i have never come across a need to do that? I thought you had the code and you just wanted to inject it in your prexisting site code. sorry can't help you with that one
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[14:49:54] <duall> i have a ng-repeat with floated divs, is it possible to move boxes around with animation when one item is removed?, i can only get appear animation work, not move
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[14:50:35] <_mu_> duall animation with ngrepeat are tricky
[14:50:48] <_mu_> you can do a few cool things combining ng-stagger with animate.css
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[14:51:19] <_mu_> otherwise you will prob need to create your own js animations if they need a fair bit of customization
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[14:52:43] <jcool> can we have conditions on date picker? as in second date picker date shouldnt be less than first date picker date?
[14:52:47] <jcool> something like that.
[14:53:09] <qrob> try again: I have some difficulty integrating requirejs in an angular directive... if I include <script src="/folder/to/require.js" data-main="/folder/to/myjsapp"></script> in the template of <customdirective></customdirective> requirejs doesn't load... any suggestion?
[14:53:50] <Inge-> fiddler ftw! check if it doesn't make the request for the file, or if it does and request fails ...
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[14:58:52] <qrob> I checked with the network chrome dev tool. The request simply doesn't start, there are no fail errors. Instead when I put the script outside the directive tag it loads a it should.
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[15:02:26] <angularnewb> can anyone help with nganimate?
[15:02:32] <angularnewb> would really appreciate it
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<AngularUI> [ui-router] christopherthielen pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/ldid7g
[15:02:54] <AngularUI> ui-router/master dcb31b8 christopherthielen: fix(ie8): fix calls to indexOf and filter...
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[15:03:22] <\du> oops
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<\du> later to upgrade from 1.2 to 1.3 i get this error, any idea how i can debug it? http://goo.gl/E1jfXg ?
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[15:04:45] <sacho> what's at line 12764?
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[15:06:30] <\du> sacho: 12764?
[15:06:53] <\du> or 1276? from where do you take this line number?
[15:07:12] <\du> oh i see
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[15:08:44] <\du> sacho: thanks i found it
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[15:10:44] <\du> i am starting to feel hurt thinking on the upgrade that i will have to do with ng 2.0
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[15:11:05] <sacho> mhm
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[15:11:19] <Helzibah> I'm just having to downgrade to 1.2 :(
[15:11:26] * Helzibah shakes fist at IE8
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[15:13:39] <\du> Helzibah: i can convice to my boss to doesn't give support for IE8, either no more MS give support
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[15:14:22] <Helzibah> \du: we have 18% IE 8 to our site right now :(
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[15:16:17] <Guest74657> who has a lot of experience with ngResource?
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[15:16:51] <\du> Helzibah: we redirect them to a internal page, saying that IE8 doesn't more support, that upgrade IE or choose other browser.. and some links.. the problem is that Windows XP doesn't support IE9 or bigger, but meanwhile people still be giving support to IE8.. users will still using it until they upgrade the computer and the SO come with a new browser version
[15:16:58] <\du> kill to IE8 !
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[15:20:20] <Caroga> hi all
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[15:20:26] <Caroga> got a quick question again
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[15:21:10] <Caroga> when concatinating my js files using grunt-contrib-concat, my vendor libraries are concatenated good, but my own app.js doesnt. It gets appended with just the following symbols instead of the file contents: ����������
[15:21:18] <Helzibah> \du: yeah, I'd love to kill IE8 support, it's a real pain
[15:21:33] <Helzibah> \du: but, we have way too much traffic to be able to justify it to anyone (and a lot of older users)
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[15:21:38] <Helzibah> not my decision :(
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[15:21:57] <\du> Helzibah: i understand :/
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[15:26:42] <Guest74657> Can anyone explain this:
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[15:27:03] <Evanlec> hey guys, is there a channel for protractor? (the test framework)
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[15:28:21] <Guest74657> when I do : $Records.getRecordById({record: recordList[i]}, function (record){record.setting="lala"; record.$update();}) the page freezes
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[15:29:05] <Guest74657> ($Records is an ngResource instance)
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[15:29:15] <ngbot> angular.js/master 5f55289 Peter Bacon Darwin: chore(docs): update to dgeni-packages 0.10.7...
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[15:30:10] <Guest74657> but when I simply do $Records.update({record: recordId}, {field: value}) it does work
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[15:30:45] <Guest74657> so I can't pass an object to the ngresource, or use it as an instance
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[15:30:51] <Guest74657> or the page freezes
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[15:36:05] <plushwork> how much of a performance hog angular really is?
[15:36:59] <plushwork> let's say, how many users can average pc computer handle before it pops?
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[15:37:41] <droogans> javascript runs on the client, so there's only one user at a time
[15:38:15] <droogans> the performance stat you're looking for is how much interactivity can angular support before it starts to lag
[15:38:27] <sacho> 50 interactive points
[15:38:36] <droogans> There's a lot of ways to check this, but I typically go with watchers.
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[15:38:53] <droogans> @sacho, no. Easily 65
[15:39:00] <droogans> maybe 70 if the room is cold
[15:39:09] <sacho> 45 if you need to support ie8
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[15:39:15] <droogans> we don't talk about those things
[15:40:02] <droogans> anyway, I've seen an app have 3000 rows in a table, and each row had 2-way bindings on ~15 items on scope
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[15:40:49] <droogans> filtering took about 300ms to register keyboard strokes and update the rows, to me that was impressive
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[15:41:13] <Somatt_wrk_> it seems ng-repeat won't pick up deep changes in a collection due to the way $watchCollection works. Any idea how to workaround that ?
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[15:41:29] <Evanlec> droogans: all 3000 rows rendered on the same page?
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[15:41:46] <droogans> pagination show/hid the rows, but up to 50 were shown at once
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[15:42:12] <droogans> but all 3000 were in memory for full-text searching
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[15:42:33] <Evanlec> not bad, although 300ms would be noticeable lag entering characters I'd think
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[15:43:19] <droogans> there was lag, but I mean, who cares at that level. You was filtering on any data in any row
[15:43:26] <droogans> *it was
[15:43:27] <Sawbones> I just checked out react.js just to see what all the fuss was about, bleh.
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[15:44:16] <Evanlec> Sawbones: how much faster is reactjs? I'm not familiar with it at all, I thought it was supposed to be fast
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[15:44:37] <Sawbones> Evanlec: It's faster, but I think that's because it has less features.
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[15:45:08] <Evanlec> Sawbones: doesn't it have this 'virtual dom' concept? or am I thiking of something else
[15:45:17] <Sawbones> Yeah, shadow dom
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[15:45:43] <bd-> i don't think it uses actual shadow dom
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[15:45:50] <bd-> has it's own implementation
[15:45:53] <Sawbones> It's ugly syntax though, and you can't use the jsx components in your HTML, your ui has to be rendered with the renderComponent method
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[15:46:10] <Sawbones> Reminds me of Ext.js...which is awful
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[15:46:45] <Evanlec> Sawbones: really? I never tried extjs, have a colleague that thinks it's great
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[15:47:04] <Sawbones> Evanlec: Your colleage should take a long walk off a short cliff
[15:47:04] <Evanlec> Sawbones: what do you mean by jsx components?
[15:47:10] <Evanlec> lol
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[15:47:28] <Sawbones> I maintain a ext.js project and it kicks the W3C Standard in the nuts
[15:47:35] <tombee> When I add an engines.module.js, and define the shipyard.engines module, and add that to the module getter I start to get errors with dependency injection and the shipyard.engines module being missing
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[15:48:13] <DANtheBEASTman> so I'm trying to validate a form, it makes sure that the given set of numbers is a valid range and doesn't intersect with any existing ranges.. I'm assuming this is a good time to use a directive?
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[15:48:33] <Sawbones> DANtheBEASTman: Yes x 1000
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[15:49:01] <DANtheBEASTman> ok. all my logic so far is in my controller.. now to figure out how to refactor
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[15:49:28] <Sawbones> DANtheBEASTman: make sure to looking into including ngModel and setting the value + error data.
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[15:50:22] <FarLight> Hey guys, is there anyway I can transition to the same state using ui router?
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[15:51:21] <Evanlec> Sawbones: is there a rule of thumb about when to use a controller vs a directive?
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[15:52:14] <DANtheBEASTman> Evanlec: I'm getting the impression you want to use the controller for as little as possible
[15:52:17] <Helzibah> directives are often used when the same functionality needs to happen in multiple places
[15:52:25] <Sawbones> Yes, you create a directive when you want to create a modular custom element, or if you want to give an element a special job
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[15:53:07] <Evanlec> DANtheBEASTman: yeah, it seems like controllers are the easy way to do things, but maybe not the best way ;p
[15:53:25] <Sawbones> I wrote a table directive that I can pass the columns and data to for presentation, it auto paginates, filters and reorders
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[15:53:56] <Sawbones> Controllers are the base concept of angular, everythign is powered by a controller, but a controller is usually not by itself.
[15:53:58] <Evanlec> Sawbones: what about having a directive _with_ a controller?
[15:54:15] <Evanlec> or with it's own controller I mean
[15:54:15] <Sawbones> Refer to last message
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[15:54:39] <Sawbones> They can have controllers to control their logic
[15:54:44] <Evanlec> Sawbones: if you don't specify a controller in a directive, is there still one behind it?
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[15:55:10] <Evanlec> I mean, do they have a default controller, or do they just defer to the parent controller
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[15:55:24] <Sawbones> Evanlec: Good question, what happens when you don't pass a controller is that the directive never gets it's own scope.
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[15:55:45] <Sawbones> Evanlec: Meaning the link function's first argument is the directive's controller.
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[15:56:10] <Sawbones> is the scope the directive is in.
[15:56:11] <Evanlec> Sawbones: but you didn't pass a controller?
[15:56:14] <Sawbones> sorry it's still the morning
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[15:56:42] <Sawbones> Evanlec: When you pass a controller to a directive it
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[15:56:49] <Sawbones> 's basically just giving the directive it's own scope
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[15:57:20] <Evanlec> oh, okay, but what about the parameters that let you specify to create a scope or not
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[15:57:26] <Sawbones> If you don't you can still do logic in the link function but the scope is whatever scope the directive is declared in
[15:57:29] <Evanlec> Sawbones: forgetting the property name now, in a directive
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[15:57:55] <Sawbones> Evanlec: Look up some directive tutorials.
[15:58:08] <Sawbones> They will explain the directive's link function and it's arguments
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[15:58:24] <Sawbones> Once you wrap your head around it you will fall in love with directives
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[15:58:47] <Evanlec> Sawbones: alright ;p -- I think directives are by far the most confusing thing for newcomers
[15:59:29] <Sawbones> Evanlec: You will have a lightbulb moment, we all did, just keep at it, read and watch stuff about them. You'll get it, it's very logical
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[16:00:29] <cxz> I suppose $parent.$parent.$index in an ng-repeat is incorrect?
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[16:00:44] <Evanlec> Sawbones: alright, thanks :)
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[16:02:19] <Evanlec> Sawbones: do you think the official developer guide is any good? I find that documentation confusing
[16:02:29] <Sawbones> Evanlec: I never used it
[16:02:32] <Evanlec> Sawbones: for directive tutorials I mean
[16:02:40] <Sawbones> tombee: Looks like your first argument is invalid?
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[16:03:13] <surreal> I found the directive docs very confusing. They cost me about a day because they omitted an important option.
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[16:03:46] <Sawbones> It's best to get tuts from other places for angular
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[16:04:23] <h-darklow> Hi, anyone can suggest some kind of email anti-spam directive?
[16:04:37] <Evanlec> Sawbones: that seems to be what I hear often
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[16:05:26] <tombee> Sawbones: looks like I was just missing the module as a dependency in the parent module
[16:05:44] <Sawbones> tombee: Yeah that was the second possibility
[16:06:00] <Sawbones> tombee: Angular debugging could be improved
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[16:06:27] <tombee> Sawbones: Yeah, i'm a total beginner too, so it doesn't help. Just trying to help out with some open source stuff
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[16:06:49] <tombee> js/angular aren't really my area, but I figured I can help to modularise some stuff in this project anyway
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[16:07:07] <tombee> some donkey work where I might learn a thing or two along the way :)
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[16:09:04] <Sawbones> It's got a high learning curve, but once you get it, you won't want to switch
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[16:09:55] <Evanlec> Angular 2.0 makes me worried though
[16:10:00] <da_wunder> hmm
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[16:10:07] <bd-> i don't think it's a problem
[16:10:10] <da_wunder> any advice for year select directive?
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[16:10:31] <da_wunder> kinda like regular datepicker but only years are allowed to select
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[16:12:06] <yandos> da_wunder: you could use angular ui out of the box for this
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[16:15:56] <da_wunder> yandos: hmm, can't figure out how to just enable year selection
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[16:17:12] <yandos> da_wunder: i thought it was datepicker-mode, its set to day by default but looks like you can change to year
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[16:18:02] <da_wunder> yandos: have tried that but no affect
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[16:20:07] <da_wunder> yandos: hmm, seems like popup doesn't support that
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[16:21:50] <raj___> What's the difference between a angular "app" and a angular "module"?
[16:22:03] <raj___> Seems like every angular App is just one module?
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[16:23:23] <sacho> raj___, an app is a module that you bootstrap
[16:23:29] <Sawbones> app = module
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[16:25:11] <tombee> At what granularity should modules be?
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[16:25:22] <tombee> 1 per controller?
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[16:30:05] <tangorri> tombee : I think one module should be for all controllers
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[16:30:18] <tangorri> but I don't use module right now :B
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[16:33:47] <tombee> da_wunder: thanks, I guess I'm struggling with how big a "feature" is on this thing I'm working on
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[16:35:20] <Sawbones> tangorri: That's actually not good
[16:35:28] <Sawbones> You should not have one module for all controllers
[16:35:43] <Sawbones> You should have one module for a group of related controllers and providers
[16:36:13] <tombee> Coming from a web service development background, I'd treat all those 3 options as functions of a single 'Engine Controller'
[16:36:35] <tombee> Rather than 3 separate controllers
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[16:37:16] <tangorri> Sawbones : yes, I plan to use one module by 'aspect'
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[16:37:32] <da_wunder> tombee: or make module called 'engine' and then 'engine.controllers', etc.
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[16:37:57] <Sawbones> what da_wunder said
[16:38:23] <Sawbones> Check out how to structure your angular app, it actually made me appreciate django, and I hate that framework
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[16:38:50] <tombee> I'm looking at a couple of guidelines on structuring angular apps
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[16:41:15] <tiqs> Hi, I have a directive that is requiring ngModel controller and trying to use ngModelCtrl.$viewValue
[16:41:31] <tiqs> i console.log ngModelCtrl and I see that $viewValue is an object
[16:41:44] <tiqs> when i console.log ngModelCtrl.$viewValue i get NaN
[16:41:47] <tiqs> wtf is going on
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[16:43:10] <tiqs> This problem appeared when I upgraded to angular 1.3.2 from 1.2.2
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[16:47:40] <julie> can body help me how to ng-if between click events or say how to toggle between two button
[16:48:05] <tiqs> ng-click
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[16:49:07] <julie> tiqs: yah ng-click
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[16:50:23] <tiqs> got it, ngModel now sets $viewValue and $modelValue async in next iteration.. thanks angular devs for introducing more backwards-incompatble features without any warning or documentation yet again!
[16:50:29] <da_wunder> julien something like <div ng-if="foo">bar</div> <button ng-click="foo = !foo">button</button>
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[16:52:40] <julie> da_wunder: i have two button by default one will show but when it is clicked other button shud show and previous one shud hide
[16:53:14] <tiqs> julie: take some good advice: do not use angularjs
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[16:53:59] <julie> tiqs: why?
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[16:54:34] <tiqs> cause its pure shit
[16:54:40] <Guest74657> I'm getting some weird problems
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[16:54:48] <tiqs> if you're lookg for a good frontend framework use reactjs
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[16:55:07] <Guest74657> when I do person = $resource.get()
[16:55:20] <Guest74657> I cant do person.save() or my app hangs
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[16:55:38] <Guest74657> I have to work around like this : delete person.$promise
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[16:55:44] <Sawbones> tiqs: lol reactjs
[16:55:44] <zomg> tiqs: that's a pretty good way to make sure your question gets answered ;)
[16:55:56] <tiqs> zomg: i answered my own question
[16:56:04] <tiqs> and the answer was that angularjs devs are incompetent
[16:56:10] <oniijin> lol
[16:56:15] <zomg> Cool story bro
[16:56:17] <tiqs> Guest74657: you need to wait on the promise
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[16:56:20] <tiqs> .then
[16:56:30] <Sawbones> I know the answer to your problem, but you're being a dick
[16:56:36] <Guest74657> yes I know it is resolved
[16:56:41] <tiqs> I just stated the answer above
[16:56:50] <tiqs> 'next iterarion...'
[16:57:16] <tiqs> It's a functionality breaking change that has no documentation whatsoever
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[16:57:55] <tiqs> and this is just one of the dozen or so such changes, including old bugs being reintroduced
[16:58:02] <zomg> No, that's actually not it
[16:58:07] <tiqs> element.blur... causing digest
[16:58:16] <zomg> The problem is somewhere else but I'm not particularly inclined to tell you at this point
[16:58:33] <tiqs> no.. that is exactly the problem, ive fixed it and verified it
[16:58:36] <tiqs> rofl
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[16:58:52] <zomg> You probably just found some way to work around it, but that's not it =)
[16:58:55] <tiqs> no
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[16:59:39] <tiqs> also, you can ignore all my questions from now on, you are clearly a moron
[16:59:49] <zomg> Hey, it's not me who's going to be dealing with your hacky code so I don't really care :D
[17:00:00] <tiqs> lol 'hacky code'
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[17:00:45] <oniijin> can we get some caitp action up in here
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[17:01:46] <Sawbones> I'm looking around in my code, I know I wrote something that requires ngmodel
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[17:02:55] <DANtheBEASTman> i've already got the validation function, just can't figure out how to give the feedback to the user
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[17:03:38] <tiqs> Sawbones: let me elaborate, the issue is exactly what I said it is, console.log is showing the property as an object because console.log is itself async and resolved the object after several iterations
[17:04:00] <caitp> the people want caitp action!
[17:04:04] <caitp> (what)
[17:04:13] <oniijin> disruptive behavior
[17:04:21] <caitp> who is being disruptive
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[17:04:30] <oniijin> tiqs
[17:04:31] <Linell> DANtheBEAST: what exactly are you trying to get it to show? I'm seeing an 'End field required' error, if nothing else
[17:04:39] <caitp> tiqs be nice what the hell man
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[17:04:44] <tiqs> what?
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[17:04:53] <Sawbones> tiqs: So you were seeing the $viewValue have a value but when you went to use it, the value was undefined?
[17:04:54] <caitp> idk i'm told you're being disruptive
[17:05:02] <tiqs> yes Sawbones
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[17:05:15] <oniijin> i believe zomg and Sawbones witness
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[17:05:18] <caitp> apparently angularjs devs are incompetent and that's not very nice
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[17:05:21] <caitp> so don't say that
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[17:05:23] <caitp> thx
[17:05:29] <tiqs> thats my opinion
[17:05:32] <rajatarora> how can i use bindonce and still leaving behind 1 child element to let it update itself whenver data changes
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[17:05:41] <caitp> you can find a more constructive way to express your opinion, like
[17:05:44] <caitp> for example
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[17:06:02] <caitp> "there is a bug in angularjs and I would really appreciate it if it got more attention because it is bothering me very much"
[17:06:02] <Sawbones> tiqs: Let me see your code
[17:06:08] <tiqs> Sawbones: why?
[17:06:12] <DANtheBEASTman> Linell: yeah, I've got all the basic validations done except for my own custom kind. if you try to enter a range that intersects with an existing one then it won't add, but it doesn't give feedback to the user why
[17:06:17] <tiqs> caitp: i never said its a bug
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[17:06:27] <DANtheBEASTman> for isntance try to add 200 300
[17:06:30] <caitp> then what are you saying?
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[17:06:37] <Sawbones> I can see what you wrote and help you with a solution, I've never had to call the .then to get teh value
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[17:06:48] <tiqs> i said that a functionality breaking change was introduced without any docs or warning
[17:07:00] <tiqs> Sawbones: like i said about 5 times I already solved the problem
[17:07:18] <caitp> it's hard to recognize when something will break people in all cases
[17:07:26] <tiqs> not really
[17:07:30] <caitp> no, it really is
[17:07:36] <tiqs> its fairly easy to know when you are writing async vs sync code
[17:07:41] <sacho> there is a bug in angularjs and I would really appreciate it if you could find it fo rme
[17:07:44] <julie> no help here?
[17:07:47] <tiqs> all instances of async should be documented
[17:08:04] <caitp> there are many cases where you aren't supposed to care
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[17:08:52] <tiqs> really?
[17:08:57] <caitp> *throws things at printer for being obnoxious and not printing my hotel confirmation grrrr*
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[17:08:59] <caitp> .v.
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[17:09:07] <tiqs> name one api that is async that I should care that it is async?
[17:09:15] <caitp> ngAnimate
[17:09:16] <s3shs> I've got a download URL of the form "domain.com/complexDbKey". But I want the file to download as "hello.jpg". Is there a way to do this?
[17:09:24] <caitp> stop caring about the sync-ness of ngAnimate
[17:09:25] <da_wunder> DANtheBEASTman: that doc link also shows how to add custom validations
[17:09:33] <s3shs> caitp, you haven't run for the hills?
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[17:09:45] <caitp> run for the hills? :O
[17:10:02] <DANtheBEASTman> da_wunder: it does, but i'm using ng messages, and for some reason I'm struggling with how to show my custom error
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[17:10:21] <s3shs> caitp, never!
[17:10:29] <caitp> i'm going to chicago for the week, but i'll be back dont worry :d
[17:10:50] <DANtheBEASTman> especially since ngmessages is a relatively new feature so there's not a whole lot of docs or examples
[17:10:51] <oniijin> ew but it's freezing balls there right now
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[17:15:17] <caitp> yeah oniijin but it's freezing here too, and i'll be in a hotel all week anyways, not gonna be going outside :c
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[17:15:26] <AngularUI> ng-grid/master bd4490d Brian Hann: docs(Hidden Grids): Add large explanationwq
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[17:15:51] <oniijin> lol I guess. I have a lot of friends in chi, they're saying f it to the cold
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[17:16:04] <oniijin> one of them is coming here for a few days then LA
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[17:16:44] <tiqs> caitp: why is prelink/postlink order ignore with directives that use templateUrl?
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[17:17:20] <caitp> because who cares, stop caring
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[17:17:30] <tiqs> what do you mean who cares?
[17:17:43] <caitp> if it matters to you, you're doing ti wrong
[17:17:46] <caitp> it should not matter
[17:17:48] <tiqs> A lot of scenarios depend on this
[17:17:51] <caitp> like what
[17:17:53] <tiqs> thats why its there
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[17:18:26] <tiqs> like adding dynamic 'name' attribute
[17:18:30] <tiqs> for ng-validate
[17:18:43] <caitp> doesn't matter
[17:18:48] <tiqs> (I work around this problem by not using templateUrl)
[17:19:00] <tiqs> what doesnt matter?
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[17:19:33] <caitp> you mean ng-model? name attribute is observed and dynamically updated
[17:19:36] <caitp> so it really doesn't matter
[17:19:51] <tiqs> uh
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[17:20:21] <tiqs> if the parent directive postlink is executed before the child prelink ng-validate will not work on initial values
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[17:20:29] <caitp> what the heck is ng-validate
[17:20:29] <tiqs> it does matter
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[17:20:48] <tiqs> angular input validation...
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[17:20:58] <caitp> are you talking about ng-model
[17:20:59] <caitp> or what
[17:21:02] <caitp> like what are you talking about
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[17:21:14] <tiqs> its in multiple directives
[17:21:15] <caitp> if there is an ng-validate, it's something third party
[17:21:20] <tiqs> generally its angularjs forms
[17:21:29] <tiqs> its not a directive called ng-validate
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[17:21:54] <tristanp> Did 1.3 not introduce something called ngValidate?
[17:21:57] <caitp> so you're just making up names for a specific thing to confuse people, okay ;)
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[17:22:00] <caitp> no, it didn't
[17:22:21] <tiqs> thats ok bud
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[17:22:30] <tiqs> nice evading the post/pre link question
[17:22:35] <tiqs> point proven
[17:22:40] <caitp> the point is, it doesn't matter
[17:22:43] <oniijin> you're too nice caitp
[17:22:49] <caitp> if you think it's breaking you, you're doing something wrong
[17:22:51] <tiqs> the point is you dont know the answer
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[17:22:59] <tiqs> or you know its because angular is poorly written
[17:23:00] <caitp> the point is, you can't depend on it
[17:23:04] <tiqs> and dont want to admit
[17:23:10] <tiqs> wait
[17:23:12] <caitp> of course it's poorly written, who is arguing that?
[17:23:18] <caitp> but so is everything else
[17:23:19] <tiqs> so I cant depend on a feature that is in the documentation?
[17:23:23] <oniijin> wow someone sounds super butthurt
[17:23:25] <tiqs> thats awesome!
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[17:23:42] <tiqs> wtf
[17:23:50] <caitp> it's not a "feature" --- so, the thing is, we can't preserve the order of operations when async templates are involved, both for performance reasons and because it would make the app basically crap
[17:23:51] <tiqs> 'everything else' is poorly written?
[17:23:53] <BahamutWC|Work> err angular sanitize and animate got bumped up to 1.3.3 but not angular itself
[17:24:07] <caitp> so, bugs have been filed on this, but it's not something that can realistically be fixed
[17:24:07] <tiqs> of course you can preserve the order
[17:24:14] <tiqs> its elementary to do it
[17:24:15] <caitp> if it's async, then its order does not really matter
[17:24:19] <caitp> no, it's really not lol
[17:24:23] <bd-> BahamutWC|Work: mine is saying 1.3.3
[17:24:23] <tiqs> yes it is
[17:24:32] <tiqs> simple synchronization
[17:24:37] <bd-> in angular.version, updated from bower this morning
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[17:24:44] <caitp> okay, why not send a patch to clean up the compiler
[17:24:47] <tiqs> the same way sync is done in every other application
[17:24:47] <caitp> and make this sane for you
[17:24:55] <caitp> in such a way that the performance will be equivalent or better
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[17:24:59] <caitp> and in which the order will be preserved
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[17:25:03] <BahamutWC|Work> huh, guess I have some bower config that’s off
[17:25:05] <caitp> go for it
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[17:25:13] <caitp> just go, nobody else has ever tried that before (lol)
[17:25:22] <tiqs> maybe I would if I cared about angular, but I only use it as a necessity and do new stuff in reactjs
[17:25:33] <caitp> you don't care about angular, you just want to complain about it :D
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[17:25:41] <caitp> good stuff, real constructive
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[17:25:44] <tiqs> yup
[17:25:52] <caitp> very helpful
[17:25:52] <caitp> where would we be without you
[17:25:57] <tiqs> I see myself as constructive
[17:26:04] <oniijin> you need glasses
[17:26:06] <tiqs> because I help people stay away from angular
[17:26:11] <tiqs> ;)
[17:26:21] <caitp> yeah, and then they can shoot themselves in the foot with whatever else
[17:26:27] <tiqs> lol
[17:26:47] <tiqs> lets just be honest and say that reactjs is superior to angular in every single way...
[17:26:52] <caitp> unfortunately, there are a lot of things that we want to get rid of in angular that we can't, because people need them
[17:26:53] <tiqs> literally every single way
[17:27:01] <caitp> if we could get rid of sync, or get rid of async, it would be perfect
[17:27:07] <caitp> but as it is, we have this mixture of sync/async
[17:27:11] <caitp> and it's a mess
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[17:27:20] <caitp> we know it's a mess, but we can't really change it right now
[17:27:20] <tiqs> ....
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[17:27:24] <tiqs> you cannot have just async
[17:27:28] <tiqs> wtf are you on about
[17:27:31] <caitp> sure you can
[17:27:42] <tiqs> really?
[17:27:50] <tiqs> is .then an async call?
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[17:27:59] <caitp> when you have an algorithm for a dataset
[17:28:05] <caitp> and in some cases that algorithm needs to work synchronously
[17:28:11] <caitp> and in other cases asynchronously
[17:28:14] <caitp> it's a recipe for disaster
[17:28:20] <caitp> that's just the way it is
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[17:28:27] <caitp> there's no good way around that
[17:28:38] <sacho> tiqs, yes
[17:28:43] <tiqs> sacho: no
[17:28:52] <sacho> .then() is async guaranteed by the promises spec
[17:28:55] <tiqs> caitp: in that case yes, such api should be async
[17:29:06] <tiqs> sacho: the actual call to .then is sync...
[17:29:12] <sacho> sure, so what?
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[17:29:21] <tiqs> so that was my question
[17:29:27] <tiqs> wtf do you mean so what
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[17:29:50] <caitp> sure it should
[17:29:56] <caitp> but at what cost
[17:30:09] <caitp> this is a problem we are tackling with the redesigned compiler
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[17:30:14] <caitp> I don't think we can realistically fix that in 1.x
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[17:30:39] <tiqs> its very simple.. an api should be either be always sync or always async
[17:30:41] <caitp> not without breaking people, which is something we need to avoid
[17:30:45] <tiqs> you dont need all apis to be async
[17:30:49] <caitp> tiqs it's sort of like the web
[17:30:50] <sacho> tiqs, well, your question doesn't make sense, then. There's no such thing as an async function call in javascript - when people talk about 'async' in javascript, they mean that an outside event(e.g. triggered by the browser) calls javascript code(which is *always* sync)
[17:31:00] <caitp> so at some point, someone decided the web needed `showModalDialog()`
[17:31:03] <caitp> and people used it
[17:31:11] <caitp> then we realized "hey, this is terrible, we should get rid of this"
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[17:31:16] <caitp> how long did it take to get rid of it?
[17:31:23] <caitp> years and years, and we're still trying
[17:31:25] <caitp> it's hard to get rid of brokenness
[17:31:27] <tiqs> sacho: it makes perfect sense
[17:31:30] <oniijin> is the answer longer than getting rid of ie8?
[17:31:45] <Helzibah> oh please, please someone get rid of IE8
[17:32:04] <oniijin> just pretend it doesn't exist
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[17:32:32] <Helzibah> would love to, but 18% of traffic on our website is IE8 :(
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[17:32:44] <Helzibah> not going to be able to argue that one with the rest of the business
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[17:33:07] <oniijin> that 18% most likely wont ever update unless they have to
[17:33:18] <oniijin> and why would they have to? bc the stuff they use don't support their wonk ass browser
[17:33:19] <Helzibah> I can spoof entries into Google analytics though, right?
[17:33:20] <sacho> by async+sync in angular do you mean the compile/link process for directives?
[17:33:22] <Helzibah> I'm sure that's ethical
[17:33:24] <da_wunder> Helzibah: if that is the case, then you just have to make workarounds
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[17:33:30] <caitp> yeah
[17:33:34] <Helzibah> da_wunder: don't I know it
[17:33:40] <caitp> compilation is synchronous, except when there is a templateUrl
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[17:33:43] <sacho> oh yeah, that's way too confusing
[17:33:44] <caitp> in which case it is asynchronous
[17:33:49] <albivian> hi everyone
[17:33:59] <da_wunder> Helzibah: at work we have some projects where is still required ie6/7 so just be happy with ie8
[17:34:07] <albivian> I'm having trouble with a scope variable updating on one of my partial templates
[17:34:11] <oniijin> lol are u supporting china
[17:34:12] <caitp> it's a mess, it's incredibly hard to follow, and we can't touch it very much lest we break people inadvertently
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[17:34:17] <Helzibah> da_wunder: haha, yeah, it could be a lot worse
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[17:34:29] <sacho> I absolutely agree :) heh.
[17:34:50] <albivian> i have a scope function inside my controller that triggers upon an event, and the function updates a scope property in the controller
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[17:34:53] <tiqs> caitp: would you recommend that someone use angularjs for a new project?
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[17:35:05] <sacho> do you have experience with it?
[17:35:07] <caitp> sure
[17:35:18] <caitp> angular is perfectly suitable for a new project
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[17:35:26] <tiqs> i disagree
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[17:35:31] <tiqs> its a total mess
[17:35:31] <caitp> you are welcome to disagree
[17:35:34] <caitp> but then why are you here ;)
[17:35:44] <tiqs> cause i have existing projects using angularjs
[17:35:46] <albivian> in my mind, this scope property should also update in the template, but it stillr emains as the same value from the start.
[17:35:56] <albivian> what am I doing wrong? :(
[17:36:10] <caitp> albivian can I see?
[17:36:16] <albivian> via?
[17:36:18] <oniijin> is it a moardots problem
[17:36:22] <oniijin> a plnkr
[17:36:25] <sacho> albivian, check out the plunker template in the topic
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[17:36:27] <caitp> you could just paste some code, really
[17:36:33] <caitp> a plunker is good too
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[17:36:43] <tiqs> caitp: why couldnt controller/template combos be removes and directives used instead?
[17:36:47] <oniijin> so much accomodating. caitp you're like a zen monk
[17:36:48] <albivian> one moment, pls
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[17:37:30] <caitp> tiqs: well the reason we can't get rid of controllers and templates in 1.x is because that's a big part of what 1.x is
[17:37:44] <caitp> the redesign does not have this redundant stuff
[17:38:07] <tiqs> the 2.x version?
[17:38:17] <caitp> yes, that's what we're calling it
[17:38:21] <tiqs> the one that's been 'on its way' for 2 years now?
[17:38:22] <albivian> fyi i'm using ng+requirejs
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[17:38:31] <albivian> so it might be different
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[17:38:37] <caitp> the current prototype was only started a few months ago ;)
[17:38:46] <sd_sher> when approximately did 2.0 dev start ?
[17:38:48] <caitp> there have been a lot of other prototypes
[17:39:02] <tiqs> good job on those though
[17:39:05] <tiqs> rofl
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[17:39:55] <tiqs> caitp: what about the awesome module system?
[17:40:06] <tiqs> please enlighten me as to the purpose it serves
[17:40:06] <caitp> the thing with prototypes in software tiqs is
[17:40:07]
<DANtheBEASTman> can someone help me figure out how to show a custom error with ngmessages in my form? http://plnkr.co/edit/QVbLgsYmcuit8ifcNGnk?p=preview i've got all the basic validations done exceot for my own custom error message, I can't figure out how to show the error message when it doesn't pass (Try entering a range that intersects with an existing like 200 300, it just silently fails and I need to give feedback)
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[17:40:12] <caitp> you write them to throw away
[17:40:23] <caitp> you learn the constraints and requirements of what you're building through prototyping them
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[17:40:53] <caitp> we've certainly learned a lot of constraints and requirements from angular 1 and angular.dart
[17:40:59] <tiqs> caitp: is there any reason to use angularjs over reactjs?
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[17:41:18] <caitp> those things feed back into the design process and help build it "right"
[17:41:36] <jlebrech> i'm ng-repeating over an arrays and want to wrap arrays with more than one item with a div, how can I do that other than repeating the code twice for 1 item and more than one item?
[17:41:45] <caitp> you can use whatever you like tiqs
[17:41:47] <tiqs> caitp: at this point it would be better to just make a new framework from scratch
[17:41:48] <Siecje> caitp: What is your opinion on having two way data binding?
[17:41:49] <caitp> nobody really cares
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[17:42:02] <tiqs> caitp: im asking you if you have any reason as to why angular is better than react?
[17:42:03] <caitp> it is a new framework from scratch
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[17:42:14] <caitp> after learning from mistakes in angular 1 and angular.dart and the prototypes
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[17:42:25] <Siecje> and 5 years of innovation in the web and browsers
[17:42:30] <bd-> react isn't a complete framework
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[17:42:34] <bd-> it's just a view layer, pretty much
[17:42:42] <bd-> so they two arent' directly comparable
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[17:42:45] <deweydb> jlebrech: ng-if="myarry.size > 1" ...
[17:42:46] <tiqs> uh
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[17:43:07] <deweydb> er .length
[17:43:26] <jlebrech> deweydb: will that not show the tag but still use the contents?
[17:43:27] <bd-> you could even use react in conjunction with angular if you wanted
[17:43:30] <tiqs> angular is a view layer with a useless module system and a shody 'providers' component
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[17:43:42] <deweydb> jlebrech: paste me your code?
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[17:43:59] <caitp> you're a bit confused
[17:44:02] <sacho> *shoddy
[17:44:11] <oniijin> shady
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[17:44:21] <Helzibah> shonky
[17:44:32] <deweydb> jlebrech: ng-repeat-start ... ng-repeate-stop ?
[17:44:35] <sacho> shifty?
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[17:44:48] <caitp> so angular is an HTML compiler which will inspect your DOM tree, and add behaviour or replace visible parts based on registered components --- and also do some text interpolation to make things a bit nicer
[17:45:01] <caitp> it also comes with a kind of IOC container
[17:45:02] <Jose___> $http isnt helping
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[17:45:23] <tiqs> caitp: react does all of that, IOC accomplished by webpack or similar
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[17:45:24] <caitp> the IOC container is awesome because it makes writing tests super simple, and makes modifying the core very easy
[17:45:31] <tiqs> not really
[17:45:37] <caitp> yes, really
[17:45:43] <deweydb> jlebrech: looking one sec
[17:45:47] <tiqs> the IOC in angular is a pain in the ass because it does not work on its own
[17:45:51] <zomg> my dad is better than your dad
[17:45:51] <caitp> speaking from experience there, it's pretty awesome
[17:45:53] <caitp> sure it does
[17:45:56] <tiqs> you need to use a separate system to preload the actual code
[17:45:58] <caitp> how does it not work on its won
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[17:46:07] <Helzibah> yeah, well, my dad is taller than your dad
[17:46:11] <tiqs> beccause you need to load the modules
[17:46:22] <caitp> you need to load your scripts no matter what you use
[17:46:23] <tiqs> angular doesnt load modules for you
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[17:46:29] <tiqs> yes
[17:46:30] <caitp> that's not angular's job
[17:46:37] <zomg> Helzibah: the joke's on you because my dad is an alcoholic and I haven't heard from him in years
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[17:46:40] <zomg> lololo
[17:46:41] <zomg> =)
[17:46:41] <tiqs> but using webpack - it already provides a superior IOC to angular
[17:46:50] <Helzibah> zomg: also, my dad isn't very tall :P
[17:46:53] <zomg> haha
[17:46:54] <caitp> you're talking about IOC as though it were a module loader
[17:46:57] <caitp> but that's not the case
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[17:47:05] <tiqs> webpack is not just a module loader...
[17:47:06] <caitp> you're mixing up a lot of concepts here :(
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[17:48:01] <bradmaxs> Starting to get angular but far from not being confused:) I want to share the data of my regionCtrl with my mapCtrl. I get the data from regionCtrl and use the regionWineriesList directive to lay out the list of wineries and it is working well. I also want to add markers to the map for each winery. Should I create a map directive instead of controller? Combine all of this or keep separate? Thank you. Please see the ap
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[17:48:07] <deweydb> but
[17:48:10] <deweydb> thats not super elegant
[17:48:18] <deweydb> it might be better to do that logic in your controller
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[17:48:31] <albivian> there is my config
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[17:49:00] <jlebrech> deweydb: yeah, what I thought. having to use the same code again :(
[17:49:09] <deweydb> ok how about this...
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[17:50:20] <jlebrech> deweydb: i think a directive could be used then
[17:50:29] <tiqs> caitp: if you're talking specificly about dependency injection.. that is debatably bad design.. but even so, reactjs has libraries for it
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[17:50:38] <jlebrech> deweydb: niiice :)
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[17:52:03] <tiqs> of course you can do it with webpack anyway...
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[17:52:46] <Linell> bradmaxs: It looks to me like you could use a service ot fetch that data. You could then just share that service between regionCtrl and mapCtrl
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[17:53:50] <caitp> i'm not sure you'll be able to convince me it's a bad design --- have you worked on unit tests in chrome? an ioc container would make this so much better
[17:54:12] <caitp> it just makes things work so much better
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[17:54:32] <tiqs> I'm not trying to convince you its bad design, thats a separate topic
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[17:54:41] <sacho> ioc is good for frameworks
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[17:54:50] <bradmaxs> Linell: Thanks for responding. I don't know about services but I guess it is time to learn. I have seen them a lot however. Will the data still have 2-way binding with a service?
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[17:56:04] <sacho> depends how you use it
[17:56:15] <Linell> bradmax: Well, you'd just call a function from the service. So like wineryService.getWineries() and set the result of that to $scope.wineries. then $scope.wineries will be two way bound
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[17:56:27] <Linell> And you can do the same in both controllers to have the same data
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[17:57:47] <bradmaxs> Linell: Great. Thanks. I am off to figure this out. I am moving an app from backbone to angular and I can't believe how little code I have had to write so far.
[17:58:22] <Linell> bradmax: No problem, and good luck!
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[17:58:36] <bradmaxs> ty
[17:58:42] <Jose___> hey can anyone tell me please how to stop angular $http following a 302
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[17:59:34] <tiqs> caitp: how is IOC particularly useful for testing?
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[17:59:52] <caitp> because it makes it super easy to test exactly what you need to test, and mock out the rest
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[18:00:06] <caitp> you have complete control of the test conditions with it
[18:00:06] <jlebrech> it could be cleaner in my case to include the template inline
[18:00:11] <caitp> it's a lot harder to do without it
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[18:00:38] <tiqs> right thats true
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[18:01:10] <tiqs> though typically you only test publica apis to which you supply all the data anyway
[18:01:33] <sacho> ...public apis?
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[18:01:56] <tiqs> apis that users of your code will call
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[18:06:06] <maraneta> how would i correct the syntax for this: {{ testcard.qc_time === null ? 'Scan Time: {{ testcard.scan_time }}' : 'QC Time: {{ testcard.qc_time }}' }}
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[18:06:45] <maraneta> i tried {{ testcard.qc_time === null ? 'Scan Time: testcard.scan_time ' : 'QC Time: testcard.qc_time ' }} but it just prints out the raw string, including 'testcard.scan_time'
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[18:07:29] <tiqs> 'QC Time: ' + testcard.qc_time
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[18:10:50] <tiqs> you got that maraneta ?
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[18:11:19] <maraneta> tiqs: oh wow, thanks
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[18:13:16] <tiqs> maraneta: the stuff between the {{ }} should be just regular javascript
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[18:13:54] <snurfery> sup yall
[18:13:58] <snurfery> top o' the mornin
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[18:14:37] <oniijin> bottom o the mornin
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[18:14:42] <Raydiation> regarding ngAnimate: is there a way to disable all animations until a promise has been resolved
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[18:14:57] <olivvv> hi
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[18:15:18] <tiqs> Raydiation: as some of the devs would say 'it doesnt matter' right caitp ?
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[18:15:22] <olivvv> Anybody hasd a nice pattern to have a filter work both on string and on arrays ?
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[18:15:45] <olivvv> actually string or array of strings
[18:16:24] <caitp> Raydiation: you'd have to ask matias to be positive, but you should be able to just use the animate api to disable animations and then reenable them when your promise resolves
[18:16:37] <Raydiation> i see
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[18:16:44] <caitp> i've seen some problems with that before but I don't really follow his crazy code, so there's probably a way to do it
[18:16:51] <caitp> you should file a bug to get it documented
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[18:17:14] <olivvv> isit a wrong idea to do that ? a filter that work on both strings and array
[18:17:42] <olivvv> it is small thingy that I have in mind, it shall simply add commas at the end of non-empty strings
[18:17:50] <caitp> i don't see why, strings are array-like objects so it's fairly natural to work wiht them
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[18:17:58] <caitp> you run into issues with surrogate pairs though without ES6 extensions
[18:18:10] <caitp> so if you care about surrogate pairs you'd have to be careful there
[18:18:17] <caitp> but basically there's no reason not to
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[18:18:58] <olivvv> well googling "surrogate pairs" at the end of a work day is quite frightening
[18:19:01] <da_wunder> olivvv: i would first normalize input to be array and then make that actual logic for that
[18:19:22] <caitp> you could use that as a guide
[18:19:27] <tiqs> you can filter any types of values you like, even heterogenous types.. just check the type or w/e in your function
[18:19:40] <caitp> mozilla has a similar algorithm
[18:19:55] <olivvv> you could get ebola but otherwise it is safe, go ahead
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[18:20:14] <olivvv> but thx caitp sharp knowledge as always
[18:20:37] <caitp> aw shucks :d
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[18:20:40] <olivvv> da_wunder: yep yep
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[18:23:45] <Raydiation> the problem is that sometimes when i load my page there is a very short period where entries are there and disappear
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[18:24:04] <wsmoak> new to angular… I’m guessing the ‘tabbed ui’ is a solved problem already, but I’ve found multiple ways to go about it. would anyone like to comment on a fairly simple way that still uses best practices?
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[18:24:48] <oniijin> Raydiation should u not load the page then until your promises resolve
[18:25:17] <caitp> Raydiation, a bug has been filed about that... I don't know the animate code enough to fix it, and matias is in california applying for a job at goog
[18:25:23] <caitp> so, it might be a few days before he can look
[18:25:34] <caitp> or rather, interviewing*
[18:25:35] <Raydiation> im not sure, in fact im showing a spinner until everyting is loaded
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[18:25:38] <Raydiation> this is my css
[18:25:40] <Raydiation> caitp: ty
[18:25:50] <Raydiation> maybe im doing something wrong :P
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[18:28:32] <sacho> well, angular would need some time to apply the ng-hide directive
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[18:29:08] <sacho> usually domcontentloaded is pretty fast, that's why you're seeing it as such a short period
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[18:29:33] <Raydiation> yep i suppose that its that time period
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[18:29:54] <Raydiation> theres ng-cloak for hiding unrendered content
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[18:30:02] <Raydiation> is there something similar for that problem?
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[18:30:51] <oniijin> yeah usually ngcloak if you're on the page already to stop foc
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[18:31:01] <jlebrech> does anyone recommend anything other than bootstrap to go with angularjs, i find it does random stuff with the angular tags for ng-repeats etc..
[18:31:25] <oniijin> like what
[18:31:45] <oniijin> bs should have no effect on ng-repeat
[18:31:57] <Linell> Yeah, I use bs and angular every day with no problems
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[18:33:34] <jlebrech> Raydiation: interesting
[18:33:37] <jlebrech> :D
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[18:35:08] <tiqs> jlebrech: what browser are you getting this random stuff on?
[18:35:17] <jlebrech> chrome
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[18:35:32] <tiqs> version?
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[18:36:11] <jlebrech> tiqs: i'm using bootstrap panels but they insist on going fullsize
[18:36:16] <jlebrech> latest
[18:36:33] <sacho> what does that have to do with angular, though
[18:36:34] <jlebrech> 38
[18:36:36] <tiqs> also are you using pure bootstrap or a bootstrap library for angular?
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[18:36:52] <jlebrech> tiqs: angular-ui
[18:36:56] <tiqs> ah
[18:37:03] <tiqs> make sure you have all the dependencies
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[18:37:21] <tiqs> but I would suggest not using that
[18:37:22] <jlebrech> tiqs: might go back to the angular-ui docs
[18:37:23] <tiqs> cause its crap
[18:37:26] <jlebrech> :D
[18:37:35] <jlebrech> ui-router is ok tho?
[18:37:39] <tiqs> meh
[18:37:42] <sacho> the ui-bootstrap guys really drank the koolaid
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[18:37:57] <tiqs> jlebrech: use reactjs problem solved
[18:38:00] <sacho> you might as well just use bootstrap and write the angular parts yourself
[18:38:15] <jlebrech> sacho: sure :)
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[18:38:34] <jlebrech> tiqs: haha, i've already switched js frameworks enough times
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[18:38:45] <albivian> caitp: heres my code
[18:38:47] <tiqs> how did you end up with angular then
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[18:39:04] <albivian> it should be updating the object printed out below
[18:39:14] <albivian> the id's should be incrementing...
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[18:39:28] <caitp> oh man i've seen that demo movie way too many times now
[18:39:31] <jlebrech> tiqs: i left it because it's crazy, but came back because there's community
[18:39:34] <caitp> alright looking
[18:39:34] <albivian> just drag the video to the very end and the event triggers
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[18:39:59] <albivian> it'll look like it restarted, but it's playing the next object
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[18:40:05] <jlebrech> it's crazy but it works when you know the caveats
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[18:40:42] <albivian> in my mind, the controller's scope property should be updating
[18:40:48] <albivian> but on the template, it isn't. :(
[18:41:03] <sacho> what's updating it
[18:41:17] <tiqs> jlebrech: not really
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[18:41:29] <caitp> I'm not seeing where the text underneath should be updated
[18:41:30] <albivian> the cb function
[18:41:33] <caitp> what are you expecting to update it?
[18:41:35] <albivian> run()
[18:41:36] <tiqs> too many caveats
[18:41:37] <jlebrech> tiqs: decided to bite the bullet really
[18:41:41] <albivian> $scope.sequence
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[18:41:45] <albivian> the pararms change
[18:41:46] <Raydiation> what is .ng-hide-add and .ng-hide-add-active
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[18:42:02] <tiqs> jlebrech: have you tried react?
[18:42:05] <jlebrech> i'll leave angular eventually but I can workaround anoyances
[18:42:05] <Raydiation> or rather the difference
[18:42:07] <albivian> debugger; at the $scope.sequence in callDispatch
[18:42:10] <albivian> you'll see
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[18:42:25] <jlebrech> tiqs: i've have a play with it, played more with polymer tho
[18:42:51] <jlebrech> tiqs: but i saw flex and then i was like WTF
[18:42:57] <jlebrech> flux*
[18:43:10] <caitp> it looks to me like your "run" function is never actually called
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[18:44:28] <jlebrech> tiqs: i don't see a clear winner really, angular not really better but there are better devs using it
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[18:44:46] <tiqs> jlebrech: 'better devs using it' ?
[18:45:04] <jlebrech> tiqs: in numbers
[18:45:04] <caitp> there are certainly more devs using it
[18:45:08] <albivian> caitp: yes it is. in player.addJsListener('playerPlayEnd', 'run');
[18:45:19] <caitp> albivian, it never gets run
[18:45:27] <caitp> like, a breakpoint in that function is never hit
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[18:45:58] <sacho> you have to actually pass a string that that player calls off of window?
[18:46:05] <albivian> strange. debugger; seems to do the trick
[18:46:08] <sacho> perhaps you meant to pass run
[18:46:23] <tiqs> jlebrech: there are even more in numbers going plain js - so what?
[18:46:26] <albivian> nope. its a cb
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[18:46:42] <albivian> sacho: it's meant to run after everyone event call
[18:46:45] <albivian> every*
[18:46:52] <caitp> but it never runs
[18:46:54] <sacho> 'run' isn't a callback, it's a string
[18:47:02] <albivian> oh
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[18:47:27] <albivian> if you analyze the kaltura lib, it does context[stringFunc]();
[18:47:28] <caitp> of course
[18:47:29] <bd-> tiqs: what's the equivilent of ng-repeat in reactjs?
[18:47:35] <caitp> i'm not sure kWidget is actually included in the plunker
[18:47:36] <bd-> reading docs but cannot see
[18:47:36] <albivian> it does run
[18:47:39] <caitp> so that would break it
[18:47:40] <albivian> is it
[18:47:42] <albivian> it is
[18:47:48] <albivian> thrid script file
[18:47:56] <reavengr1y> frouth
[18:48:01] <reavengr1y> and ffith too
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[18:48:17] <caitp> there is no third script file
[18:48:26] <reavengr1y> He said thrid
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[18:48:33] <reavengr1y> pay attention
[18:48:36] <albivian> it does a callBacktoRun() function, that translates the string to a function if it exists in window
[18:48:47] <albivian> third*
[18:48:55] <albivian> it does run trust me.
[18:48:58] <albivian> that's not the issue.
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[18:49:10] <albivian> the issue is the $scope.sequence property
[18:49:11] <caitp> i'm not seeing it run in your plunker
[18:49:14] <albivian> it never updates
[18:49:25] <albivian> add a debugger in the run function
[18:49:31] <albivian> line 14 in index.html
[18:49:32] <caitp> i'm using a debugger :p
[18:49:34] <caitp> it does not run
[18:49:41] <tiqs> bd- a regular javascript loop
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[18:49:45] <albivian> try my latest version
[18:49:47] <NorthBlast> hey guys, I'm using ng-grid but I don't know why my checkboxHeaderTemplate is not working properly.. I can't select it and obviously it won't select all the checkbox, any ideas?
[18:49:48] <albivian> refresh it
[18:49:50] <tiqs> or make an element if you want
[18:49:54] <albivian> and use chrome, not FF or w/e
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[18:50:31] <bd-> oh, so i start a new project then have to implement a ton of stuff that angular already has before i can even start building stuff with react?
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[18:51:08] <tiqs> no
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[18:51:25] <albivian> caitp: did it run this time?
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[18:51:43] <tiqs> use a library if you want, impolementing ng-repeat takes about a minute
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[18:52:12] <caitp> this kWidget thing's code looks absolutely horrible lol
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[18:52:17] <julie> can any body tell me how to hide the button itself after clicked?
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[18:52:46] <jlebrech> tiqs: angular is a tool, if when i've got a v1 of my project something comes along that acheives what i need it to do, i'd be fine with changing tool
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[18:53:34] <caitp> it looks like you can actually pass a function though
[18:53:38] <oniijin> jlebrech thanks for meaningful rational comment. that is my opinion as well.
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[18:54:19] <caitp> but yeah, it's never running your 'run' function
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[18:54:33] <tiqs> jlebrech: when you've got v1 of your project and you realise you shouldnt have used angular you will not be happy
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[18:54:43] <bd-> so i need to create a custom component every time i just want to iterate over some dat aand display it?
[18:54:44] <albivian> caitp: wierd. It's working on mine jsut fine
[18:54:56] <albivian> caitp: your cache is clear right
[18:55:12] <jlebrech> oniijin: i see other frameworks and they do something so elegantly, but then fall at the last hurdle. angular might do all the stuff i needs but a bit crappily. I don't mind because i'll have my project up and running and can take a step back later
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[18:55:32] <albivian> julie: <button ng-click="show=false" ng-hide="show">Click me</button>
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[18:55:56] <oniijin> it's like with anything. use whatever works to get the job done.
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[18:56:05] <oniijin> rabid fanboyism is pointless
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[18:56:12] <tiqs> bd- no
[18:56:16] <albivian> caitp: can you send me the link to you edit?
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[18:56:34] <tiqs> bd- is that what you do when you need the same functionality? write a new function that does the same thing?
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[18:56:59] <tiqs> this is not even react-specific, just common sense
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[18:58:12] <bd-> so i have to write some sort of general purpose component that can work with arrays or objects and can be supplied with custom inner html?
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[18:58:39] <tiqs> why dont you just look at the link I gave you
[18:58:49] <caitp> there's no edit albivian
[18:58:52] <bd-> i did, it looks like it's telling me i have to reimplement ng-repeat
[18:59:00] <julie> albivian: buttons are generated dynamically with ng-repeat if i do like what you said all button get hidden
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[18:59:09] <tiqs> well maybe you don't know how ng-repeat works then
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[18:59:55] <tiqs> also all of these 'so i have to...' problems you try to create are incredibly simple to implement in reactjs compared to angular
[18:59:55] <bd-> but i can use this pretty basic construct immediately with angular
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[19:00:10] <tiqs> you can use map immediately with react
[19:00:12] <bd-> my point is, like i said earlier, the two arn't comparable
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[19:00:18] <tiqs> yes they are
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[19:00:30] <caitp> why not just write a blog post about it and post it on twitter or something?
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[19:00:39] <tiqs> do it
[19:00:41] <caitp> it's not helping people here
[19:00:53] <caitp> I don't want to kick you out, but this is not the place for that
[19:00:56] <oniijin> trolling ng chat and telling everyone ng sucks is of 0 use
[19:01:06] <albivian> julie: change ng-click to a function
[19:01:15] <tiqs> 'trolling'
[19:01:15] <albivian> that manipulates $scope.show property
[19:01:16] <oniijin> we get it, you're a react fanboi. move on with your life.
[19:01:23] <oniijin> no one cares
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[19:01:41] <julie> albivian: can you give me example
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[19:02:26] <caitp> everybody be good :<
[19:02:33] <caitp> be excellent to each other and party on
[19:02:41] <oniijin> k garth
[19:02:45] <caitp> :u
[19:03:08] <tiqs> lol
[19:03:11] <tiqs> go ahead kick me
[19:03:34] <caitp> i'd rather you just be helpful to people instead of being extremely negative ^_^
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[19:04:02] <tiqs> typical idiots upset over their own inability to provide a single argument to support their opinion
[19:04:06] <tiqs> couldnt care less
[19:04:10] <julie> albivian: can you please give a example of that i am new to angularjs
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[19:04:24] <caitp> alright, that's enough
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[19:05:00] <NorthBlast> anyone???
[19:05:02] <bd-> ✔
[19:05:08] <oniijin> ✔++
[19:05:09] <UniBot> ✔ Karma: 1
[19:05:13] <oniijin> LOL
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[19:05:29] <Raydiation> is there a good tutorial on the ng-animate ng-show stuff?
[19:05:37] <Raydiation> there are several css classes that are not documented
[19:05:55] <oniijin> thx for finally booting that caitp
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[19:06:11] <ngbot> angular.js/master f7fde93 Georgios Kalpakas: docs($location): fix method-name and typos in `ihshprfx` error...
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[19:06:15] <oniijin> dunno how u have so much patience. did u have your cereal with glenn this morning
[19:06:15] <caitp> i'm not one to be a tyrant :d
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[19:06:52] <caitp> nah, havent had any whiskey since like
[19:06:54] <caitp> halloween
[19:07:07] <caitp> living clean
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[19:07:09] <caitp> :u
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[19:07:17] <oniijin> what's whiskey got to do with it
[19:07:18] <oniijin> =p
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[19:07:37] <caitp> idk maybe i just assumed by "glenn" you meant whiskey
[19:07:44] <oniijin> speaking of, have u seen that this year's top rated whiskey is a japanese brand
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[19:07:58] <oniijin> caitp hhaha that's exactly what I meant.
[19:07:59] <caitp> well everybody loves japan
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[19:08:13] <oniijin> $400 for a 1 year old cask
[19:08:14] <TheAceOfHearts> Japan is cool
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[19:08:17] <TheAceOfHearts> shit
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[19:08:22] <TheAceOfHearts> that's a lot
[19:08:24] <TheAceOfHearts> wait
[19:08:25] <oniijin> yeah
[19:08:26] <TheAceOfHearts> a cask, nm
[19:08:28] <oniijin> nono
[19:08:29] <caitp> yeah, i'm not buying 400$ whiskey lol
[19:08:30] <oniijin> bottle
[19:08:33] <TheAceOfHearts> ah
[19:08:34] <oniijin> but a 2013 cask
[19:08:37] <TheAceOfHearts> jesus
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[19:08:40] <TheAceOfHearts> why so much?
[19:08:41] <oniijin> it's nuts
[19:08:41] <albivian> julie: there you go
[19:08:42] <oniijin> dunno
[19:08:57] <TheAceOfHearts> most expensive whiskey I've done is Blue Label
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[19:09:07] <oniijin> that's not that bad
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[19:10:06] <TheAceOfHearts> yeah
[19:10:08] <TheAceOfHearts> like $120
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[19:10:35] <julie> albivian: not working the plunk u given some error shoing
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[19:12:16] <oniijin> bleh pissed i missed japan trip last month. hopefully i'll get to go in jan
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[19:12:49] <beckyconning_> when using ui-router is there such a thing as an abstract wide controller or something to that affect? i.e. initialise scope for the abstract wrapper template to be compiled with?
[19:13:07] <albivian> try again
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[19:14:15] <oniijin> beckyconning_ i think so
[19:14:15] <julie> albivian: thanks a lot...can u tell me one more thing
[19:14:34] <beckyconning_> oniijin: cool thanks : )
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[19:14:51] <oniijin> im assuming for inheriting stuff down to children?
[19:15:54] <beckyconning_> oniijin: i have a tabbed interface in the abstract route's template. client wants some tabs to be disabled based on some application state.
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[19:16:29] <oniijin> gotcha
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[19:16:53] <beckyconning_> oniijin: i'm glad that made sense lol!
[19:17:16] <oniijin> there are a lot of tab related examples for uirouter floating around
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[19:17:56] <beckyconning_> oniijin: yeah i already did the tabs i'm just making sure i can use this approach to disable some of them
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[19:18:35] <oniijin> lemme know how it works out. i can kinda guess at what to do but not totally certain
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[19:19:02] <beckyconning_> oniijin: will do when i get home : )
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[19:24:25] <albivian> julie: ??
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[19:26:10] <julie> albivian: i have something like this <div class="row" ng-repeat="client in client_details"></div>
[19:26:47] <julie> albivian: inside that i have <button class="btn btn-warning" ng-show="client.active == 1" ng-click="disableClient($index,client.client_id)">Disable</button>
[19:27:10] <julie> albivian: u got?
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[19:27:32] <albivian> julie: right off the bat, i'd change client.active to booleans instead of ints.
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[19:27:35] <albivian> but go on
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[19:27:59] <albivian> and if you must use ints, use === not ==
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[19:29:07] <julie> albivian: if i do $scope.show = function () { this.client.active= 0; } its saying 'active' is undefined
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[19:30:59] <jsheely> So I'm trying to figure out how to do a custom $validator on my directive
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[19:31:32] <jsheely> Doing something wrong here
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[19:32:24] <jsheely> Trying to follow this blog post
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[19:33:06] <jsheely> But mine dies when I call the ngModel.$validators
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[19:34:12] <julie> albivian: are you getting my point....i am stuck ...angularjs is killing me
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[19:34:52] <sacho> julie, "this"? what is "this" supposed to point to?
[19:34:55] <sacho> perhaps you meant $scope?
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[19:35:27] <TheAceOfHearts> facebook released a static type checker
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[19:35:46] <julie> sacho: this refer to button click
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[19:37:10] <richardlitt> I need some help understanding how a filter with ng-repeat works. I have this: ng-repeat=“object in array | customFilter”, where the CustomFilter hides items in an array in the objects. My issue is that customFilter is based off of user input (what they want to filter), and after each choice the original objects are changed so that they only have the subset of filtered items
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[19:37:22] <albivian> change 'this' to $scope
[19:37:25] <albivian> julie:
[19:37:26] <Sawbones> tiqs from the #reactjs channel: "banned from #angular rofl"
[19:37:28] <Sawbones> What a tool.
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[19:37:38] <albivian> julie: I was experimenting with this. just try $scope instead
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[19:38:07] <richardlitt> I’m finding it really difficult to put that into a code example. Maybe ng-repeat=“hotel in hotelsInTown | sortRooms”, where a user selects ‘hot tub’, and hotel now only has rooms which have hottubs
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[19:38:21] <richardlitt> but all rooms that don’t have hottubs are gone from the hotel object if the user unselects hottubs.
[19:38:23] <sacho> ooh, there's a reactjs channel?
[19:38:40] <albivian> julie: angular is steep. do your best and learn as much as you can
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[19:38:50] <albivian> im on the same boat too so don't worry
[19:38:52] <richardlitt> Any ideas? Am i doing it wrong by having a custom filter that takes user input?
[19:39:24] <julie> albivian: with jquery this is so simple but angularjs....
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[19:39:57] <Sawbones> It's just a way of thinking
[19:39:58] <sacho> julie, well, don't use angularjs :) It's not intended to be simple
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[19:40:10] <Sawbones> sacho: quiet you
[19:40:21] <albivian> julie: angular eliminates alot of overhead
[19:40:28] <sacho> it's a much better idea to first have a solid grasp of javascript, before trying angular
[19:40:28] <albivian> keep it up, it'll all make sense
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[19:40:39] <albivian> btw, angular can use jquery too
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[19:40:51] <albivian> it's actually better to include jquery with angular
[19:41:41] <julie> albivian: so can i use this.hide() when button is clicked?
[19:41:41] <Sawbones> julie: Instead, have your button be like this - disableClient(client)
[19:41:54] <Sawbones> $scope.disableClient(client) { client.active = false }
[19:42:15] <albivian> julie: use ng-hide
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[19:42:38] <albivian> ng-hide and ng-show detect a boolean
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[19:43:20] <richardlitt> hmm. I guess a better question is; how do I implement user selection of data to show? Is a filter the best way to do that, or a service?
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[19:43:24] <albivian> if you get stuck, put a debugger; on the line before and explore the issue
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[19:44:25] <richardlitt> I could also copy the original object and have the user selection activate a function in the controller that returns the data needed, but I don’t feel that’s right
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[19:44:38] <richardlitt> I feel like I am trying to rebuild the search: filter, and I don’t see how to do that properly
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[19:44:59] <sacho> why aren't you using the search filter?
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[19:45:53] <richardlitt> Because the toggles the user can select don’t have a 1 to 1 mapping to the data
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[19:46:11] <sacho> you don't have to use the toggles as the search filter expression
[19:46:14] <richardlitt> I need to do some transformations in order to find out which objects match each selection
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[19:47:14] <sacho> doesn't the search filter have a function expression as a possible input?
[19:47:21] <richardlitt> how else can I do that? Currently, I have the buttons in the UI, which match a object with multiple binary keys. I just send that object into the filter
[19:47:33] <richardlitt> customFilter:dataObject
[19:47:33] <sacho> if not, bind your results to a different, filtered collection, which you set whenever the user updates /whatever
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[19:48:11] <richardlitt> I’ve been trying to do that, but it resets the Array
[19:48:23] <richardlitt> so that each array is the result of the previous search
[19:48:25] <sacho> it?
[19:48:31] <richardlitt> the filter, sorry.
[19:48:37] <sacho> don't use a filter
[19:48:56] <richardlitt> What should I be using there? I just want to show/hide some data, I figured this was the best way to do that
[19:49:00] <richardlitt> a service?
[19:49:18] <ctanga> good god developers are terrible at reporting bugs
[19:49:31] <richardlitt> ctanga: yep
[19:49:35] <TheAceOfHearts> really?
[19:49:43] <ctanga> how can it be? don’t these people get bugs reported to them?
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[19:49:46] <TheAceOfHearts> I tend to think I'm good at reporting bugs
[19:50:02] <sacho> richardlitt, you could still use a filter, what is your filter doing?
[19:50:06] <TheAceOfHearts> LOL
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[19:50:22] <ctanga> I get 5-6 of these a day
[19:50:23] <sacho> ctanga, but ALL the routes are failing!
[19:50:25] <sacho> all of them!#
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[19:50:39] <Raydiation> which bug tracker do i use for ng-animate
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[19:52:33] <richardlitt> Make sense?
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[19:53:10] <Slowintrepid> I haven't written a single unit test yet so I'm not sure why Im getting any errors from karma period
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[19:53:33] <richardlitt> What I don’t understand is why I’m not getting the original camprounds list every time the filter is called. It seems to be permanently changing campgrounds in my model, which shouldn’t be happening
[19:53:43] <sacho> richardlitt, uh, what's the point of var filtered = _.each(collection)?
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[19:53:53] <sacho> _.each just returns the collection, as far as I know
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[19:54:31] <richardlitt> _.each is a shorthand for _.forEach
[19:54:47] <sacho> I know what it's short for
[19:54:49] <richardlitt> I need to iterate through multiple collections, basically. That’s just a loop.
[19:55:00] <richardlitt> hmm
[19:55:04] <sacho> but you're assigning its return value to filtered
[19:55:41] <TheAceOfHearts> ctanga: jesus
[19:55:43] <richardlitt> yeah, because I need to send the filtered Array of collections to the view
[19:56:00] <richardlitt> sorry, I’m trying to see what I’m doing wrong, hard for me to grasp.
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[19:56:46] <ctanga> them: “it doesn’t work when I blarg!” me: “show me please”. 3 months later them: “Did you fix it yet???”
[19:57:05] <TheAceOfHearts> lmao
[19:57:12] <ctanga> if my real life name wasn’t attached to github I might be really really mean
[19:57:36] <richardlitt> sacho: waht’s a better way to do loops?
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[19:58:08] <TheAceOfHearts> ctanga: I'd be mean regardless
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[19:58:21] <sacho> richardlitt, what was your initial code, again?
[19:58:28] <sacho> the html
[19:58:39] <richardlitt> ng-repeat="campground in parks.campgrounds | typeFilters:parks.accessModel:parks.accommModel "
[19:58:50] <richardlitt> parks is the controller.
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[19:59:53] <sacho> ok well, what is this filter supposed to do
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[20:00:32] <richardlitt> campgrounds have a lot of sites; this filter basically takes user input as to what kind of site they want, and then show only sites that match that parameter
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[20:01:00] <sacho> ctanga, but the link you sent is using the wrong version!
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[20:01:30] <richardlitt> the input is the accessModel and accomModel, and the fitler should basically send back an collection that reflects those campsites in the campgrounds that match that input
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[20:03:03] <sacho> the filter sends back the same collection
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[20:03:17] <ctanga> sacho: omg, you noticed that :)
[20:03:25] <sacho> what it does is modify the objects within the collection
[20:03:36] <ctanga> and also he then mentions that he can’t reproduce it because he’s using ui-router-extras
[20:03:43] <jsheely> So I think I figured out ngModel.$validators. It works the first time
[20:03:50] <ctanga> huh, maybe you could have mentioned that in the original bug report??
[20:03:51] <jsheely> But now it's not uploading when the model changes
[20:03:51] <jsheely> bleh
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[20:03:56] <richardlitt> sacho: yes.
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[20:04:11] <richardlitt> I feel like I missed something crucial
[20:04:14] <sacho> ctanga, wasn't it obvious from the original report?
[20:04:21] <beckyconning_> i can't believe i don't know this but is it possible to make a directive that inherits from an existing directive? i can't think how that would work but it seems like a thing that might exist
[20:04:24] <sacho> after all, there was a stack trace and everything
[20:04:30] <ctanga> makes me want to rage
[20:04:31] <beckyconning_> i've never needed to do it before lol
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[20:05:40] <sacho> richardlitt, you're not really supposed to modify the collection you are being passed in the filter, unless you don't intend to actually do "filtering" work
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[20:05:59] <ctanga> ok rant over for today
[20:06:04] <TheAceOfHearts> hahaha
[20:06:11] <TheAceOfHearts> ctanga: do you get paid to maintain ui-router?
[20:06:19] <ctanga> hells 2 tha no
[20:06:25] <richardlitt> sacho: why not? because it permanently affects the collection? If I can’t do it here, where should I do this?
[20:06:25] <TheAceOfHearts> oh boy
[20:06:27] <richardlitt> In the controller?
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[20:06:44] <sacho> why do you want to permanently affect the collection?
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[20:06:51] <sacho> then you can't go back and change your filters!
[20:06:52] <richardlitt> I don't.
[20:06:55] <richardlitt> I know!
[20:06:56] <richardlitt> Hahhaa
[20:07:00] <sacho> well, don't then. :)
[20:07:03] <richardlitt> That’s my problem. how do I stop that happening?
[20:07:35] <richardlitt> Another way to phrase that: can you help me understand why it is permanently affecting the collection?
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[20:07:46] <sacho> because you're permanently affecting the collection
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[20:07:52] <richardlitt> Where/how?
[20:07:54] <sacho> campground.campsites = _.filter() <-
[20:08:08] <richardlitt> ahhhh
[20:08:17] <richardlitt> because that’s in _.each,
[20:08:21] <richardlitt> Alright.
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[20:08:30] <richardlitt> Any idea how to do this without that problem?
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[20:08:40] <sacho> it's weird that you're applying a filter that actually wants to change the inner objects
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[20:09:14] <richardlitt> should I be filtering on the campground level, not on the ng-repeat level/
[20:09:25] <sacho> well, you could use _.map() and create new objects, replacing the campground.campsites with new objects
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[20:10:05] <richardlitt> Any chance you could gist that for me? I’m not sure where _.map would be applied
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[20:10:41] <sacho> where are you using campground in your code?
[20:10:53] <sacho> it just doesn't make sense to have these filters on the ng-repeat
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[20:11:01] <sacho> you're not actually filtering the campgrounds
[20:11:14] <richardlitt> I don’t actually show the campsites anywhere, is the thing
[20:11:34] <sacho> okay, well, where do you use them
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[20:11:49] <richardlitt> I don’t use them on this page. But it’s what I get from the API.
[20:11:53] <sacho> what are you doing with that ng-repeat?
[20:12:25] <richardlitt> jsut listing the amount of campsites that are available, what type of accessibility is possible
[20:12:35] <richardlitt> It’s a pretty bad way to store the data.
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[20:12:44] <tombee> Should I have a controller per operation, or per feature area?
[20:12:45] <richardlitt> legacy rails apis. :/
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[20:13:09] <Linell> tombee: per feature area, unless that feature area is stupid big.
[20:13:11] <richardlitt> feature area
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[20:13:45] <tombee> It's a CRUD type thing at the moment, the project currently has a controller per letter in CRUD :)
[20:13:57] <tombee> per feature area
[20:13:57] <sacho> richardlitt, so you are using the campgrounds
[20:14:03] <richardlitt> yes
[20:14:11] <sacho> well, filter where you're using them
[20:14:26] <JosefDe> Hi guys. I'm using Angular with Cordova (Phonegap). The strange thing is: If I do "document.addEventListener('deviceready')" then the "deviceReady" event is handled. But if I put "$window.document.addEventListener('deviceready'')" into my "MainController.js" then it doesn't catch that event. Why?
[20:14:36] <tombee> Linell: so would I write a controller that can support say 4 views for CRUD
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[20:15:14] <sacho> richardlitt, e.g. if you have something like campground.campsites.length, you could filter there
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[20:15:29] <Sawbones> Does anyone have any good links on SEO with angular?
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[20:15:36] <sacho> e.g. campground.campsites | numFiltered:...
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[20:15:45] <Linell> tombee: yup. And you would use services to manage all of the actual http stuff, so that all your controller really has to do is route button clicks and whatnot to performing the right action
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[20:15:49] <sacho> and numFiltered could return the number of filtered items.
[20:16:02] <richardlitt> sacho: sacho: yeah, but there’s css stuff that needs to apply, too
[20:16:07] <richardlitt> I’d have a lot of filters going on
[20:16:09] <Linell> So when someone clicks create, your controller sends your service an object to be POSTed to your server
[20:16:09] <richardlitt> I figured this was easier
[20:16:22] <richardlitt> May have been wrong
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[20:17:09] <sacho> richardlitt, well, if you want to keep your current code, you need to clone the campgrounds
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[20:18:08] <MacWinner> cann the "Value" recipe be used inside directives... eg, myApp.value('clientId', {value :'abc'}); can you inject clientId directives just like you can in controllers? al the docs and examples I see use controllers only
[20:18:10] <sacho> e.g. var filtered = _.map(campgrounds, function (campground) { var fc = angular.copy(campground); fc.campsites = _.filter(....); return fc })
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[20:18:50] <Crippy> could anyone give me some clarification on how to approach this? I have posted data successfully to my WebAPI, but the new data isn't binding to the front end... do I need to do a promise?
[20:18:52] <richardlitt> huh, I haven’t run across angular.copy
[20:18:55] <richardlitt> interesting
[20:19:01] <Raydiation> is there a way to do two async requests at the same time but always execute the first requests success method first?
[20:19:03] <tombee> Thanks for that Linell, I'll try to figure out how I translated what you just said into code :)
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[20:19:44] <areologist> Greetings, friends.
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[20:20:34] <Crippy> is there any good blogs that show roughly how to bind asynchronous data to the front end ....
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[20:21:56] <areologist> Crippy, what do you mean exactly?
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[20:23:01] <areologist> Has anyone here used ocLazyLoad? I need some sort of lazy loading of modules but I'm freaked out about compatibility with my routing strategy and with complicating unit testing.
[20:23:05] <Crippy> I have posted data IE user details to my web API via the post http method successfully, but the front end doesnt show the new values unless I do a refresh
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[20:23:24] <richardlitt> alright
[20:23:29] <richardlitt> thanks so much, sacho
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[20:24:26] <Crippy> just wondering is there a specific method in doing so...
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[20:26:04] <areologist> Are you modifying data that is managed by angular and being databound on the view?
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[20:26:54] <areologist> Are you trying to update the app state based on return data from the API? Sorry, I don't understand the particulars of your app.
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[20:27:12] <Crippy> yes
[20:27:24] <catonabike> I have a $q.all() that doesn't reliably fire
[20:27:31] <catonabike> how do you troubleshoot this?
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[20:27:49] <Crippy> Im trying to update the app state based on the returned data after I have posted new Values
[20:28:41] <jsheely> The more I use Angular
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[20:28:44] <jsheely> the more $scope drives me nuts
[20:29:01] <MistahKurtz> can using `track by $index` spell trouble if the array might change in length (e.g., from filtering) ?
[20:29:30] <jsheely> MistahKurtz I don't think so. The $index is tracked internally and is refreshed on every $digest
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[20:29:42] <oniijin> uh actually u can run into issue
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[20:31:58] <jsheely> oniijin honestly it was kind of dumb to try and remove by $index to begin with in that blog post
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[20:32:46] <areologist> Crippy, in a basic scenario you might have data defined on a controller that is bound in the view (one-way or two-way), and then you'd perform REST interaction in a service...
[20:32:51] <oniijin> yup, but for illustrating potential gotchas, i think it's a good point
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[20:33:41] <Crippy> yes areologist
[20:33:54] <areologist> ...and either a controller behavior would interact with that service and get a promise--you'd update the controller data state when this resolves and the binding woudl automatically update your view
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[20:34:24] <areologist> or you could respond to events of the service, or whatever.. but basic scenario you're using the service in your controller.
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[20:34:56] <areologist> okay, so do you think the service isn't worknig properly or does it seem the data binding isn't updating, or what?
[20:35:25] <Crippy> so i really need to look into Promises
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[20:35:50] <Slowintrepid> I haven't written a single unit test yet so I'm not sure why Im getting any errors from karma period
[20:35:52] <Crippy> to make view update
[20:36:22] <Crippy> seems the data binding isnt updating
[20:36:33] <Crippy> in my case
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[20:36:45] <areologist> in the simple scnario you'd have myservice.whatever().then(function (data) ....
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[20:37:01] <LisaMili> Hi guys. I'm gettin error 403 Options. What does that mean?
[20:37:14] <LisaMili> I'm trying to do a CORS (Cross-Origin-Resource-Sharing)
[20:37:19] <yoshokatana> 403 = not authorized
[20:37:49] <areologist> the function passed to then will have access to the controller scope via closure so updating it ought to work
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[20:37:57] <LisaMili> yoshokatana: Can you help me?
[20:38:17] <LisaMili> yoshokatana: I'M gettint 204 No Content, but my $http() method runs into error() and not success() why?
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[20:38:24] <MistahKurtz> oniijin I wonder if using 'track by $index` would have actually resolved their issue
[20:38:30] <areologist> Crippy, if it's possible for you to create a plunkr demonstrating your case I can look at it
[20:38:30] <Crippy> ok
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[20:39:11] <Crippy> I'll have a read and play around here first
[20:39:17] <Crippy> incase Im doing something silly
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[20:39:23] <LisaMili> Has anyone an idea?
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[20:39:49] <yoshokatana> LisaMili that's very strange. not sure how $http is supposed to handle non-200 status codes
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[20:40:27] <LisaMili> Even if I receive a status = 200 code it runs into error() if the server doesn't send me content in the body
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[20:40:43] <LisaMili> The http method used is "OPTIONS"
[20:40:47] <Crippy> thanks areologist
[20:40:47] <yoshokatana> huh, weird
[20:40:50] <catonabike> Huh, i've run into wha tlooks like a bug in $q. If somebody will look, I'll pat your back!
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[20:40:59] <Crippy> will give you a shout shortly
[20:41:07] <catonabike> $q.all([p, p2, p3]).then(cb)
[20:41:14] <catonabike> I log something at the end of p3 and the start of cb
[20:41:23] <catonabike> sometimes, the log entry from cb appears before the one from p3
[20:41:33] <areologist> LisaMili, do you use Fiddler, or a similar tool?
[20:41:36] <catonabike> this seems to fly in the face of $q.all, which is supposed to wait until *all* of the promises are resolved
[20:41:39] <catonabike> what's going on??
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[20:41:56] <LisaMili> areologist: Yes
[20:41:56] <areologist> I'd look at exactly what is being sent and what the server is returning as a first step
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[20:42:27] <areologist> sounds weird
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[20:42:29] <LisaMili> areologist: You can't do it because it's a private server
[20:42:31] <catonabike> nobody helps in this channel but at least give me a "ah man, tough call, check the mailing list"...
[20:42:56] <areologist> I don't understand
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[20:43:12] <areologist> you mean you connect with a VPN or something?
[20:43:14] <Linell> catonabile: can you create a plunker that replicates it?
[20:43:26] <Linell> Promises can get super weird with stuff like that
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[20:44:31] <catonabike> Linell: I'm logging "FOO"-type stuff. not mutable
[20:44:40] <catonabike> Linell: but that is a common problem, true
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[20:45:01] <catonabike> I'll try and plunker it ...
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[20:45:31] <catonabike> here's what I'm doing. maybe it's obviously wrong:
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[20:47:01] <catonabike> var alertsFetch = Alert.$collection().$fetch(...); var alertsLoaded = alertsFetch.$then(function() { ...; console.log('LOADED'); }); $q.all([promise1, promise2, alertsFetch]).then(function() { console.log('DECORATE'); ... });
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[20:47:37] <catonabike> my fear is that alertsLoaded is actually alertsFetch
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[20:47:54] <catonabike> and that alertsLoaded has nothing to do with resolution of the $then callback
[20:48:12] <catonabike> is that right Linell? I don't work with promises all that often and suspect this is a pitfall
[20:48:59] <catonabike> about as clear as mud
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[20:50:07] <stormbytes> hey folks
[20:50:10] <stormbytes> hello ppls
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[20:50:19] <lilbaby> Can I set an event listener on my ng-app?
[20:50:26] <stormbytes> can someone explain to me why factory variables don't seem to persist?
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[20:51:21] <Linell> catonabike: irssi and copy/pasted code don't mix very well, but are alertsFetch and alertsLoaded supposed to actually be the data returned from the promises?
[20:51:30] <Slowintrepid> does anyone know why Karma would give me an Uncaught Error: [$injector:nomod] 'some module' at angular.min.js ? I'm really stumped
[20:51:38] <Slowintrepid> I've included all my scripts in my karma config
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[20:52:09] <Ownix_> How come in a factory you dont have to inject modules? myModule.factory('helloWorldFactory', function($http){ return; });
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[20:52:30] <Ownix_> I am able to use $http without doing ['$http', function($http){}] ??
[20:52:36] <snurfery> lotta questions in here
[20:52:42] <Linell> catonabike: if so, you should try to actually assign them inside of the .then
[20:53:14] <snurfery> Ownix_: the array-style injection syntax is optional
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[20:53:41] <snurfery> it's a best-practice but not required, if you want you could have all your dependencies as arguments to the function
[20:54:07] <snurfery> i.e. .controller('myController', function($scope, MyFactory, etc..){})
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[20:54:26] <snurfery> but using the array syntax is a best practice
[20:54:37] <Sawbones> ugh, tried branching out to other javascript frameworks and I just got disappointed
[20:54:46] <snurfery> Slowintrepid: we'd need to see some of your code
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[20:55:10] <Ownix_> snurfery: ty
[20:55:13] <snurfery> stormbytes: what do you mean they don't persist? paste your factory code somewhere
[20:55:14] <snurfery> np
[20:55:42] <Slowintrepid> thanks snurfery here's the karma.conf
[20:56:01] <Slowintrepid> I haven't even written a single unit test
[20:56:09] <Slowintrepid> so I"m not sure why its throwing any errors period
[20:56:22] <catonabike> Linell: I feel bad for wasting yoru time, this is obviously a problem w/ the obtuse underdocumented restmod API
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[20:57:05] <catonabike> Linell: and my misunderstanding of its $then callback and the nature of the returned "CommonApi" instance (which is about as helpful as `@return {Object} The object')
[20:57:05] <Linell> catonabike: nah, good luck with figuring it out
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[20:57:24] <snurfery> lebster: what are you trying to accomplish there?
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[20:57:39] <Linell> The then stuff (and promises in general) are great once they 'click', it just takes a bit
[20:58:12] <catonabike> Linell: `Calls $q.then on the model's last promise.' <- super-stateful
[20:58:24] <lebster> snurfery: when i chage the dropdown value it doesnt seem to be setting the model value
[20:58:30] <catonabike> Linell: so probably I'm just calling .then() on the same promise and creating a race codnition
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[20:58:57] <stormbytes> snurfery gonna plunk it
[20:59:01] <Linell> catonabike: it's probably something like that. It's something small for sure. If you happen to create a plunker, let me know
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[21:00:05] <sacho> .then() on the same promise shouldn't create a race condition
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[21:00:20] <reavengr1y> I can destroy you all
[21:00:20] <sacho> oh, unless your two handlers depend on each other, obviously
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[21:01:17] <lebster> snurfery: i wanted to use that jquery selectbox becuase it looks better, just cant get it to work. if you remove the directive evetrything works fine
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[21:01:40] <snurfery> lebster: there are angular libs for that already
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[21:01:59] <lebster> snurfery: like what? i cant find anything good
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[21:02:07] <snurfery> angular-ui-select
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[21:02:25] <lebster> lol i cant get that one to work =(
[21:02:31] <snurfery> it has a couple different themes
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[21:02:53] <snurfery> ah
[21:03:15] <snurfery> yeah I had to do something stupid to get it working too
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[21:03:26] <sacho> lebster, do you have a plunker?
[21:03:32] <catonabike> thanks Linell, if I'm still stuck I'll make a plunkr and post it here
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[21:06:45] <catonabike> Linell: looks like I needed to use alertsLoaded.$asPromise(). so, I was passing something to $q.all that $q found unusable
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[21:07:21] <sacho> $scope.ngModel?
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[21:07:43] <Linell> catonabike: ah, cool. Glad you found it!
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[21:08:05] <catonabike> thanks for the help Linell !
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[21:09:25] <LisaLi> Hi Guys. I'm doing CORS via Angular's http.put(). I get Status = 204 (No Content) with Method = "OPTIONS". But my http.put() runs into error() even though I get 204. Why? Do I have to set some headers in AngularJS or is this only a server-related problem?
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[21:11:10] <lebster> sacho: ngModel is not part of attr?
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[21:11:41] <sacho> it is
[21:11:49] <catonabike> LisaLi: maybe for some other reason, angular defines a success response as any status code 200-299
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[21:12:15] <lebster> thats what i did in my plunkr
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[21:12:26] <sacho> what did you do in your plunker
[21:12:31] <sacho> how are you setting the model?
[21:12:36] <LisaLi> catonabike: But I get 202, so it should be success
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[21:14:34] <lebster> i tried attr.ngModel =
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<ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from eec2020 to 4d885cb: http://git.io/-z24YQ
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[21:15:23] <sacho> lebster, check out the video. It details how to use the ngModelCtrl to manipulate the model and view values
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<ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 4d885cb to 4d4e603: http://git.io/GfUrLA
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[21:15:56] <snurfery> what video?
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[21:16:01] <snurfery> ah that one
[21:16:51] <bakpa79> Does anyone know a workaround to get html entities to display in ngOption loops? ng-repeat w/ ng-bind-html is not binding properly.
[21:16:53] <snurfery> LisaLi: your OPTIONS request is different from your PUT request
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<ngbot> [angular.js] jeffbcross fast-forwarded g3_v1_3 from 4d4e603 to c9899c5: http://git.io/O-yPYQ
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[21:17:11] <LisaLi> snurfery: There is only a OPTION request and no PUT request
[21:17:12] <wafflej0ck_> bakpa79: make sure you use $sce
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[21:17:30] <wafflej0ck_> bakpa79: like $sce.trustAsHtml(stuffImGonnaInjectWithNgBindHTML)
[21:17:36] <lebster> sacho: ill check it out thanks
[21:17:49] <bakpa79> I'll try that out. Thnx!
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[21:18:06] <snurfery> LisaLi: so maybe the OPTION request isn't returning enough information for angular to proceed with the PUT
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[21:18:32] <LisaLi> Yeah. I'm negotiationg that with the serveradmin now. Some headers are missing
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[21:18:51] <LisaLi> Thanks guys
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[21:19:05] <snurfery> maybe some cors stuff
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[21:28:10] <mkulke> hello there, is using $scope as inter-directive (child,parent) communication an anti-pattern?
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[21:34:53] <wafflej0ck_> mkulke: better IMO to use an isolate scope, just in terms of directive re-usability and not requiring a particular context to work
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[21:34:55] <serdnah2> hi
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[21:35:41] <LisaLi> Hi guys. I'm setting "Accept: text/html" but get "Content-Type: application/javascript" from server. My http.put() runs into .error() even though I get status code 204, why?
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[21:36:09] <stormbytes> hey wafflej0ck
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[21:36:36] <mkulke> wafflej0ck_: agreed, but even then: shouldn't child directives communicate to the parent via requiring the parent directive's controller?
[21:36:38] <stormbytes> i dont' know why it isn't working.. i basically mocked up my app from scratch to illustrate my question
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[21:37:06] <joshuafcole> Hey folks, is there a simple way to access ngModel within a custom directive controller?
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[21:37:20] <joshuafcole> I'd rather do everything in the controller than have to use link in some places and the controller in others
[21:38:08] <joshuafcole> DI doesn't work for $ngModel or ngModel or $model
[21:38:31] <Slowintrepid> I think I figured out my karma error problem
[21:38:41] <Slowintrepid> it gives me this error for every module in my app
[21:38:42] <Slowintrepid> Chrome 38.0.2125 (Mac OS X 10.10.0) ERROR
[21:38:42] <Slowintrepid> at /Users/mike/Dev/inrhythm/mizuho/market-risk/app/public/bower/angular/angular.min.js:21
[21:39:03] <Slowintrepid> I'm including all my app files in karma.conf.js using this string 'app/**/*.js',
[21:39:07] <wafflej0ck_> mkulke: typically for directive that need to "communicate" both ways I just pass in an object that can be modified within the directive to reflect some state change or whatever it might be, alternatively you can $emit events but I would be cautious of using that, another alternative is using a service to store the data-model
[21:39:14] <snurfery> stormbytes: there's a naming inconsistency, getBookList vs getSetList
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[21:39:39] <stormbytes> ugh.. was trying to normalize that example (make it more generic) and missed some
[21:39:41] <Slowintrepid> my modules are defined in one file, and then I call them in other files, I think its running the files that a requiring the module first which is throwing the error
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[21:40:16] <Slowintrepid> anyidea how I'd fix this
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[21:40:25] <Slowintrepid> just manually include the files creating the module first?
[21:40:28] <stormbytes> where was the error?
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[21:40:59] <snurfery> var service = { getBookList: getSetList} <--- both used to be getBookList
[21:41:04] <stormbytes> ahh
[21:41:17] <stormbytes> well ok, that's a typo
[21:41:29] <snurfery> yah, what was the issue you were trying to demonstrate?
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[21:41:50] <wafflej0ck_> mkulke: yeah having multiple directives and requiring one from another to get the controller then "registering" one directive from another works fine too
[21:42:04] <wafflej0ck_> mkulke: it depends on how tightly related the directives are I suppose
[21:42:26] <mkulke> i see
[21:42:29] <wafflej0ck_> mkulke: for example there's no way to have say a required interface for a directive
[21:42:34] <stormbytes> snurfery: more of a 'question' about persistence (variable)
[21:42:35] <wafflej0ck_> so you have to require a particular directive
[21:42:43] <stormbytes> see how getBookList() doesn't return anything
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[21:43:16] <stormbytes> i thought that since the controller ran SlideManager.init(dataUrl) the data that was captured would persist for future method use / requests
[21:43:54] <mkulke> wafflej0ck_: the state-service seems to be the most elegant solution for me, maybe a bit over the top, though.
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[21:44:26] <stormbytes> snurfery: sorry had some more naming issues, fixed now
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[21:45:23] <stormbytes> frozen.
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[21:47:11] <marcospgp> Hey guys
[21:47:14] <wafflej0ck_> mkulke: yeah just depends
[21:47:51] <snurfery> k
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[21:48:13] <marcospgp> I have markup inside an ng-include that declares a controller, the thing is that markup is included before it is compiled, and thus everything on it is shown even though I have ng-show attributes on it that should hide the elements
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[21:48:34] <marcospgp> ng-include: <div ng-include="'views/menu/authentication.html'" ng-hide="view.name !== 'authentication'" ng-cloak></div>
[21:48:50] <marcospgp> inside included markup:
[21:48:52] <marcospgp> <div id="authentication-view" ng-controller="menuAuthenticationController">
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[21:49:02] <marcospgp> <div ng-show="false" ng-cloak> <h5>Welcome back,</h5> <h4>{{username}}</h4> <a class="btn btn-block btn-default" ng-click="onSignOut()">Sign Out</a> </div> </div>
[21:49:15] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: better to pastebin code
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[21:49:25] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: at least when it's more than one line
[21:49:48] <marcospgp> okay I will!
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[21:50:26] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: so are you seeing a flickr of it or is the ng-show not hiding the content for some reason?
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[21:50:45] <wafflej0ck_> flicker*
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[21:52:36] <marcospgp> here is the code and the question! thank you very much to anyone who can help me and all the others :)
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[21:54:25] <marcospgp> wafflej0ck_ see the link :) thankss
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[21:55:03] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: did you include the ng-cloak CSS in your <head> ?
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[21:55:18] <marcospgp> I tried doing that, to no avail
[21:55:34] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: if not you'll wanna do that so angular at least hides the elements until it's able to start processing the directives
[21:56:15] <icfantv> $resource has built in $save functionality but the docs don't really talk about how to get the data from your model into the object created from your $resource definition. is there some proper way to do this or is it really just copying the data into your object?
[21:56:47] <stormbytes> wafflej0ck can you have a look and tell me why my service isn't working?
[21:57:02] <wafflej0ck_> icfantv: yeah just populate the properties and call $save and it send the object as it is when you call $save()
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[21:57:44] <wafflej0ck_> icfantv: you can use angular.extend to copy all the properties from one object into another without wiping out existing properties
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[21:57:54] <icfantv> wafflej0ck_: my bad. it does talk about it. they want you to load the object from var foo = $resource(…); foo.get()
[21:58:02] <jcool> can we reload part of form after database udpate?
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[21:58:22] <marcospgp> wafflej0ck_ Including the ng-cloak css didn't help /:
[21:58:36] <icfantv> wafflej0ck_: and I'd forgotten about angular.copy…i've used that before
[21:58:47] <jcool> as in I give a link to add new . user adds new value in pop up. that is saved to db and then only that select refershes?
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[22:00:00] <wafflej0ck_> icfantv: angular.copy will empty the destination object first though (that was my first thought too) think you want .extend
[22:00:19] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: try praying to some sun god :P
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[22:00:38] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: would be good if it can be reproduced in a plunkr somehow
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[22:00:45] <marcospgp> wafflej0ck_ oh mighty angodular
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[22:02:24] <wafflej0ck_> stormbytes: I would do this a bit differently.. instead of having the references to the results of calling those methods you can just have this.SlideManager = SlideManager; then you can reference SlideManager.books (assuming you expose this in the returned object)
[22:02:27] <marcospgp> I will try to reproduce it
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[22:03:14] <stormbytes> wafflej0ck_ you mean creating the service in a controller variable?
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[22:03:20] <wafflej0ck_> stormbytes: alternatively you need to use angular.copy() to populate the books and list objects and return them from those function calls (you would initalize them both as empty [])
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[22:03:29] <wafflej0ck_> stormbytes: not creating it but referencing it
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[22:03:52] <wafflej0ck_> stormbytes: instead of creating individual references to methods or parts of the service just create a reference to the service itself
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[22:03:55] <stormbytes> my question here is more about understanding the underlying methodology then just resolving an issue
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[22:04:01] <snurfery> sorry, in the middle of a deploy, I'm not paying a ton of attention right now =)
[22:04:16] <stormbytes> no problem snurfery :)
[22:04:29] * snurfery hands conch to wafflej0ck_
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[22:05:06] <stormbytes> wafflej0ock_ so is it merely a way of referencing the factory? this.factoryName.method ?
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[22:05:14] <stormbytes> and then all the previous data will persist?
[22:05:16] <wafflej0ck_> stormbytes: yeah there are basically 2 ways to solve it, you either persist the data in the service and have the same data object in there throughout the running of the app and do sort of what you have here, or you just create a reference to the service and expose the data from the service for use in the controller/view
[22:05:21] <wafflej0ck_> stormbytes: yup
[22:05:27] <wafflej0ck_> stormbytes: it's just a reference then to the same object
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[22:05:41] <wafflej0ck_> stormbytes: but gives you access from the view to do things like SlideManager.books
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[22:05:44] <stormbytes> eg. this.myFactory.init() creates something... then this.myFactory.myMethod() uses what was created in the previous method?
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[22:06:00] <stormbytes> yes yes yes i want to persist the data in the service !! :))
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[22:06:31] <stormbytes> awesome.. i'm going to try it
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[22:07:44] <stormbytes> thanks Grokling -- will review that thoroughly
[22:07:52] <stormbytes> looks like it hits the spot ;)
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[22:09:00] <Grokling> stormbytes: It's a way simplified stripped down version of what I'm using in my app. Works really well, and is tending strongly towards an OO style of thinking about stuff.
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[22:10:22] <stormbytes> Grokling exactly the direction i'm trying to take -- i thought of angular services kinda like 'gems'
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[22:10:56] <Grokling> stormbytes: Once you get more than one factory in play, it makes a lot of sense to build a baseModel, and inherit it's properties into your actual factories (so you can have common methods etc without duplicating the code.)
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[22:13:17] <wafflej0ck_> stormbytes: definitely like Grokling's setup though in terms of definining the objects ahead and being able to extend
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[22:13:31] <wafflej0ck_> stormbytes: ignore the 2nd one in there for now was just gonna show another way
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[22:14:19] <wafflej0ck_> stormbytes: eh well scratch the 2nd way it's mostly going down the route Grokling already showed
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[22:15:06] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: hmm interesting
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[22:15:39] <stormbytes> gonna look at this stuff :)) neato
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[22:17:16] <snurfery> question
[22:17:29] <snurfery> how do you guys handle having different rest endpoints in different environments?
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[22:17:49] <snurfery> in dev I'm talking to some 192.168 address, in staging something different, in prod something else
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[22:18:36] <snurfery> how do you switch up your app's config depending on your environment?
[22:18:40] <wafflej0ck_> snurfery: I was using file-process to do some replacements with grunt (still using that in one spot) and I made a module so I could have other components request a URL and then the app using the component has to provide the URL for the various environments (the app gives a list of environment it needs to support like "dev" "staging" "prod")
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[22:19:13] <Grokling> ENV variables are good for that. I've been avoiding learning how to actually use them though ;-)
[22:19:17] <wafflej0ck_> if the module doesn't get the config for some URLs or environments it complains and shows what the config should look like so I can just copy paste and fill in the values
[22:19:17] <snurfery> file-process, I'll check that out
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[22:19:37] <wafflej0ck_> I'll get this module posted eventually here too
[22:19:41] <wafflej0ck_> just been messing around with gitlab
[22:20:03] <snurfery> I've been defining them in an object called CONSTANTS and just doing app.constants('constants', CONSTANTS) so I can inject it everywhere
[22:20:15] <snurfery> but so far it's been 100% dev so I haven't had to switch em out
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[22:20:29] <wafflej0ck_> snurfery: yeah it became more of an issue when I started trying to modularize stuff that requires endpoint interaction
[22:20:38] * snurfery nods
[22:20:57] <Grokling> I've seen a couple of solutions where there's been stuff like 'grunt serve dev' and 'grunt serve staging'
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[22:21:22] <wafflej0ck_> Grokling: yeah that's how I get the file-process to work for different environments
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[22:21:40] <wafflej0ck_> I just copied the main build task but made some specific targets for the file-process task like "staging" and "dev
[22:21:42] <wafflej0ck_> "
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[22:21:47] <wafflej0ck_> so I call grunt build:staging
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[22:21:49] <snurfery> oh like I can do "grunt build staging"
[22:21:51] <snurfery> ahh nice
[22:21:56] <snurfery> fantastico even
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[22:22:42] <wafflej0ck_> yeah file-process is just kinda finicky cause it uses RegEx so kind of like a sledgehammer of a solutino
[22:22:47] <Grokling> I'm too lazy to figure it out, so I just swap out which lines are commented in my /etc/hosts file. Keeps the browser happy too.
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[22:23:29] <wafflej0ck_> now I just have it swapping out one string regarding which environment is active though and my angular module takes care of the rest
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[22:24:39] <snurfery> makes sense, I'll do the same... make my "CONSTANTS" object have 3 nested objects: for dev, staging, and prod, then I can just swap out which one is actually in use
[22:24:55] <snurfery> gracias
[22:24:57] <wafflej0ck_> snurfery: yup within one module that should work fine
[22:24:57] <wafflej0ck_> np
[22:25:03] <wafflej0ck_> de nada
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[22:29:01] <wafflej0ck_> alright time to tackle this SSL gitlab business wish me luck
[22:29:44] <snurfery> good lucks
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[22:39:46] <ngbot> angular.js/master 637c020 Jamshid Afshar: fix($http): return empty headers, ignore properties in Object prototype...
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[22:43:11] <Aswebb> Hi, using angular satellizer, is there a way to pass $authProvider in a controller? instead of injecting the provider in the app.config
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[22:45:20] <Fifty5Plus> anyone care to guess the percentage of users that are using IE 9 or older ?
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[22:48:53] <brianthecoder> I am getting and sce error, even though the return value from the function wraps the string in trustAsUrl, never had this issue before
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[22:49:23] <brianthecoder> and have several other parts where the ng-src attribute is from another domain with no issues
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[22:52:50] <brianthecoder> so no ideas?
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[22:59:42] <areologist> Fifty: that depends. Including mobile users? Global or a particular region?
[22:59:57] <areologist> In North America about 3.71% of users (not counting mobile) are IE9.
[23:00:17] <areologist> as of Oct 2014
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[23:00:37] <wafflej0ck_> that was a highly qualified "guess"
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[23:01:11] <areologist> not a guess
[23:01:40] <areologist> takes seconds to google browser stats and look this shit up
[23:01:42] <Aliks> Off topic question, but does anyone here know what their QA team uses for test case management?
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[23:03:12] <marcospgp> okay wait wrong link
[23:03:17] <areologist> Aliks, I do a lot of freelance and JIRA seems popular
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[23:03:34] <Aliks> areologist: that's more for bug tracking right?
[23:03:38] <Aliks> areologist: rather than test cases
[23:03:49] <Aliks> (unless they're using the Zephyr plugin)
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[23:04:44] <marcospgp> Can anyone help me with this?
[23:04:48] <areologist> With plugins probably. I don't use it.
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[23:05:17] <areologist> You don't want to know about what I use, believe me.
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[23:06:28] <Grokling> marcospgp: ng-show, and ng-if, both create the elements initially, then when they digest, hide or remove them.
[23:06:33] <areologist> the ppl I work with at the moment are all microsoft
[23:06:47] <areologist> Microsoft Test Manager, TFS, and all that
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[23:07:27] <Grokling> So, prior to that first digest, ng-show hasn't had a chance to hide your html.
[23:07:33] <marcospgp> wafflej0ck_ so why does it flash?
[23:07:44] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: you see the updated plunkr
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[23:08:04] <marcospgp> i saw what you sent yees
[23:08:09] <marcospgp> why does it?
[23:08:24] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: doesn't flash there because I explicitly set ng-hide class on the element so it's hidden initially
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[23:09:03] <marcospgp> isn't that a bug?
[23:09:07] <marcospgp> and it flashes for me
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[23:09:24] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: open the console see when it hits the debug point you shouldn't see the bottom text
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[23:09:39] <wafflej0ck_> any flashing you see at this point is likely just plunkr reloading
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[23:09:59] <marcospgp> no the text is displaying
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[23:10:14] <marcospgp> debug statement stopped the thing but the text inside the ng-show is showing
[23:10:17] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: change the bool in the controller to false
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[23:11:20] <areologist> I watched a talk yesterday by one of the Github ppl and the gist of it was software development with no managers, no meetings, no deadlines, and screw agile.
[23:11:26] <areologist> I wish.
[23:11:28] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: it's not really a bug in that I don't think it can really be fixed, angular can't do things before its' running
[23:11:34] <areologist> Sorry if that was off-topic.lol
[23:11:46] <marcospgp> oh so the debug statement doesn't stop the thing, okie
[23:12:06] <DrMabuse> sorry guys iam looking for a ngdoc event $rootScope.$on example
[23:12:09] <marcospgp> but hey wafflej0ck_ , shouldn't there be no need for an ng-hide class? isn't that a bug?
[23:12:11] <Linell> GitHub seems to have a really awesome way of doing things.
[23:12:13] <DrMabuse> anyone can help me plz ?
[23:12:23] <areologist> Ha! Thank you, Linell
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[23:13:02] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: eh not sure seems like it would have to assume it has to hide everything until it sees that an element doesn't have an ng-hide or ng-show directive if it were to try to make this assumption for us
[23:13:06] <areologist> interesting site
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[23:14:01] <marcospgp> wafflej0ck_ rephrase? I didn't really understand that, sorry /:
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[23:14:42] <areologist> Does anyone use the Brackets editor?
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[23:15:04] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: basically we need to hide this thing with CSS cause otherwise the JS needs to be running in order to do anything like this for us and the best it could do is assume immediately everything needs to be hidden then look for things that don't have a particular directive which I'm sure would be inefficient but I can't think of a way it could do this properly
[23:15:24] <areologist> I remember Brackets being hyped up in the past and I've not heard much about it lately. I installed it a while back but never actually use it.
[23:16:27] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: long story short CSS can be there up front when the page is loaded JS takes a bit longer to download and then bootstrap
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[23:17:04] <wafflej0ck_> areologist: personally SublimeText is my go to now
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[23:18:00] <areologist> Thanks waffle, my main is Sublime as well, although I think WebStorm is probably the best JS IDE.
[23:18:38] <wafflej0ck_> areologist: yeah have heard a lot of fans of WebStorm, but haven't given it a serious chance, I got a trial at some point and tried for like a day but switched back, hard to leave so much familiar stuff
[23:18:44] <Grokling> WebStorm is java based. It's a memory killer. That's my main complaint. That and it can be slow.
[23:19:12] <marcospgp> wafflej0ck_ yea that makes sense, I have no idea why I wasn't seeing that.I slept well and everything
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[23:19:15] <Grokling> I'm also now using sublime, and won't be renewing my webstorm license.
[23:19:21] <marcospgp> wafflej0ck_ thanks a lot!
[23:19:23] <areologist> If it weren't for the decent set of packages for Sublime, and customization for my work flow, I'd be in WebStorm
[23:19:31] <wafflej0ck_> marcospgp: np
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[23:19:57] <Linell> There's also good ole Vim.
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[23:20:14] <Grokling> Webstorm can take 2MB of source code, and turn it into ~8GB of memory overnight while I'm not even here.
[23:20:17] <areologist> I guess Brackets has yet to catch on
[23:20:21] <wafflej0ck_> areologist: yeah snippets and multi-cursors are the main things I use really, well that and Ctrl+P for jumping around to files/functions/classes whatever
[23:20:36] <Grokling> Ctrl-D is epic too.
[23:20:42] <wafflej0ck_> yeah
[23:20:48] <wafflej0ck_> ctrl+shift+l too sometimes
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[23:20:56] <wafflej0ck_> select multiple lines and make many cursors
[23:20:57] <Grokling> snippets. Oooh yeah..
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[23:22:05] <areologist> I'll woot to that
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[23:22:12] <Grokling> console.log('someStuff'); becomes "cl Tab someStuff Tab" and I'm already on the next line.
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[23:22:47] <Sawbones> I'm wicked stuck on creating a user login system for angular, I've gotten most of it down but there are tons of bugs and I feel like this could be better
[23:22:58] <Sawbones> Anyone know a good article on angular login systems?
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[23:23:12] <areologist> At least no one has said they use Vim. I don't understand the love that that editor gets in some circles.
[23:23:23] <wafflej0ck_> yeah I use "funwrap Tab" for a ('use strict';function(){ /*stuff goes here*/ })()
[23:23:35] <wafflej0ck_> areologist: actually Linell mentioned it ;P
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[23:23:53] <areologist> Whoops. haha
[23:23:54] <wafflej0ck_> I just let that slide hehe I'm terrible with vi/vim
[23:24:04] <Grokling> Although.. I'd love to find a way to restrict where sublime looks for my files in Ctrl-P. I actually don't want to jump to my compiled output code, only my source.
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[23:24:26] <wafflej0ck_> Grokling: agree with that I add it to the project settings exclude but sometimes need to see it too
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[23:25:00] <wafflej0ck_> would be nice to be able to toggle off bower_components and dist though for the search more easily instead of updating the project config
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[23:25:43] <areologist> It would be interesting to do some empirical studies with devs who prefer vim against devs who prefer other IDEs and see if either are more productive
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[23:26:23] <zomg> I use vim!
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[23:26:26] <snurfery> depends to a large degree on how well they know their editors
[23:26:28] <areologist> I'd guess if you used junior devs there would be a trend against vim, but experienced devs who prefer vim say it's better
[23:26:31] <zomg> All other editors suck!
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[23:26:39] <zomg> </flamebait>
[23:26:40] <zomg> lol
[23:26:42] <areologist> haha
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[23:26:44] <snurfery> heh
[23:26:58] <Linell> I'm personally more productive in vim than I ever was in Sublime. But, I bet snurfery is right in that it's all about what you know best
[23:27:03] <zomg> but seriously tho I do use vim :p as you were saying nobody mentioned that
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[23:27:18] <areologist> I'm serious, I think it would be interesting to approach it scientifically and try to measure and compare IDEs
[23:27:20] <snurfery> I was a sysadmin, hardcore vim, but then when I had to pump out a ton of new code (full time dev) I switched to sublime
[23:27:33] <snurfery> but of course there's a vim mode for sublime so you can have it both ways =)
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[23:27:39] <zomg> areologist: yeah I think it would be interesting
[23:27:39] <monokrome> Vim > Sublime
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[23:27:57] <zomg> but you would need to make a choice of limiting the plugin usage or not
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[23:28:18] <zomg> I personally use a few plugins to make things nicer, like NERDTree for getting a file navigator thingy
[23:28:38] <Linell> Ahh, now vanilla vim vs vanilla sublime would probably change productivity up quite a bit. I don't think that'd be a fair comparison, though
[23:28:45] <Linell> Plugins are part of it, you know.
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[23:29:05] <zomg> Vim bundles a lot of stuff with it too on many systems
[23:29:12] <zomg> if you were to remove all the bundled plugins/whatnot...
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[23:29:29] * monokrome uses over 90 Vim plugins -.-
[23:29:35] <areologist> yeah, I'd def want to do some studies with similarly experienced and accomplished devs using their ide of choice with whatever plugins they normally use.. might not be a real difference then.
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[23:30:00] <areologist> could maybe get data right now from coding competitions
[23:30:15] <zomg> What I see IDEs do nicely is some more special things like refactoring support
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[23:30:24] <areologist> like Ludum Dare, where ppl compete to crank out a decent game within a couple days
[23:30:29] <zomg> but since JS is so dynamic, it doesn't really work so good with JS even in IDEs
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[23:30:31] <robdubya> afternoon
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[23:30:51] <areologist> but for controlled studies prolly best to measure small tasks
[23:31:01] <monokrome> zomg: There is a tool that does it well for JS called Tern, and there is an editor that Adobe made that also does a good job
[23:31:09] <zomg> How would you define productivity for the study though?
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[23:31:36] <zomg> monokrome: oh, tbh haven't looked at the options for a while. I remember Webstorm has had it for a while, but it stumbles a bit if you don't have lots of typehints in JSDocs
[23:31:41] <Grokling> Hi robdubya. We've been missing you in here!
[23:31:48] <areologist> yeah, not sure how to best design the studies atm
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[23:32:09] <wafflej0ck_> Grokling: true true, robdubya been busy?
[23:32:20] <robdubya> lil bit
[23:32:31] <Grokling> he got a proper job :-(
[23:32:42] <wafflej0ck_> jerbs
[23:32:54] <wafflej0ck_> he's taken our jerbs
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[23:34:05] <wafflej0ck_> robdubya: enjoying the new place yet?
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[23:36:13] <robdubya> finally have a house. and a bed.
[23:36:24] <robdubya> job's cool. mostly.
[23:36:41] <snurfery> now I'm curious what the homeless/bedless life was like
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[23:37:06] <snurfery> "The Boxcar Developers"
[23:37:14] <Grokling> Work all day, party all night. Don't need a house or a bed..
[23:37:15] <wafflej0ck_> robdubya under a bridge with a laptop
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[23:37:43] <snurfery> I need to re-learn the "party all night" part
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[23:38:30] <wafflej0ck_> it's not worth it the next morning... at least not for me, anymore
[23:38:43] * monokrome wonders what decisions led Rob Eisenberg to lose interest in Angular 2
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[23:39:36] <Linell> the trick is to just keep going the next morning
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[23:39:57] <snurfery> the ol brain... she don't work the way she used to
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[23:40:02] <snurfery> (without sleep)
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[23:40:22] <Grokling> Being 18 is wasted on 18 year olds.
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[23:41:00] <Aswebb> Hi Foxandxss, are you here?
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[23:41:12] <Foxandxss> more or less yes
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[23:41:22] <Aswebb> Foxandxss: Are you using satellizer with angularJS?
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[23:42:18] <snurfery> hmm, trying to figure out how to get grunt to automatically include my fontawesome fonts when I build
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[23:42:29] <snurfery> the bootstrap glyphicon stuff shows up, of course
[23:42:40] <Foxandxss> Aswebb: hadn't a chance yet
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[23:43:18] <snurfery> ah, found it in the copy block
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[23:44:05] <areologist> Should we be using AtScript now with Angular 1.3, or what?
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[23:45:05] <robdubya> well i stayed in the holiday inn for the first 2 weeks here
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[23:45:17] <robdubya> and then on an inflatable bed in my place until my pod arrived
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[23:45:47] <areologist> I haven't had a chance to seriously look into Angular 2.0 and all that. Current projects will definitely stay in 1.3. But is it possible to use AtScript and maybe ES6 goodies in 1.3, maybe with a Grunt or Gulp transcompilation task of some sort?
[23:46:02] <robdubya> AtScript isnt really a thing you can use yet,
[23:46:09] <robdubya> but you could use ES6
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[23:47:10] <areologist> Oh, okay. Thanks rob. Do you know off the top of your head if there's a de factor standard tool for ES6 to ES5 in the angular world?
[23:47:40] <areologist> Basically, I'd like to switch to ES6 in my code but still ship code compatible with shitty browsers.
[23:48:19] <areologist> At least I'm thinking about it. Wondering if it's a good idea. Just want to stay current with JS.
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