January 15, 2015 
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January 15, 2015 [00:01:32] *** jsightler is now known as jsightler_afk[00:06:52] *** kkhan has quit IRC[00:18:27] *** rhusar has quit IRC[00:18:45] *** rhusar has joined #wildfly[00:28:14] *** mbabacek|karm has quit IRC[00:34:39] *** wolfc has quit IRC[00:39:16] *** fjuma has quit IRC[00:45:32] *** jerr has joined #wildfly[00:54:43] *** ctomc has quit IRC[00:56:29] *** cberndt has quit IRC[01:11:08] *** rhusar has quit IRC[01:12:59] <jbossbot> new jira [WFLY-4253] CredentialIdentityFactory.NULL_IDENTITY does not get initialized and causes NullPointerExceptions [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Darran Lofthouse] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WFLY-4253[01:14:47] *** belong has joined #wildfly[01:14:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v belong[01:20:24] *** lanceball is now known as lance|afk[01:27:56] *** anatolys has quit IRC[01:28:52] *** asoldano has quit IRC[01:43:29] <jbossbot> new jira [WFLY-4254] Symbolic links within web applications do not work [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Remy Maucherat] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WFLY-4254[02:03:04] *** cberndt has joined #wildfly[02:10:19] *** bstansberry has quit IRC[02:11:57] *** bstansberry has joined #wildfly[02:11:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v bstansberry[02:18:12] *** balunasj has quit IRC[02:24:31] *** cberndt has quit IRC[02:24:49] <jbossbot> new jira [WFCORE-503] Child resources under the deployment=XXX resource should be marked as runtime-only [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WFCORE-503[02:29:54] *** balunasj has joined #wildfly[02:29:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v balunasj[02:49:45] *** jerr has quit IRC[02:52:06] *** Nihility_ has joined #wildfly[02:52:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Nihility_[02:54:21] *** Nihility has quit IRC[02:54:24] *** Nihility_ is now known as Nihility[02:55:43] *** balunasj has quit IRC[03:13:13] *** Essington has quit IRC[03:17:42] *** Essington has joined #wildfly[03:28:21] *** Essington has quit IRC[04:12:38] *** maxandersen 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[Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Chao Wang] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WFCORE-505[09:07:39] *** wangc has joined #wildfly[09:07:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v wangc[09:08:55] *** hpehl is now known as hpehl_afk[09:08:57] *** hpehl_afk is now known as hpehl[09:11:53] *** rsvoboda has joined #wildfly[09:11:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v rsvoboda[09:14:10] *** adietisheim has joined #wildfly[09:14:13] *** tsegismont has quit IRC[09:14:47] *** iocanel has joined #wildfly[09:14:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v iocanel[09:14:51] *** darranl has joined #wildfly[09:14:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v darranl[09:17:32] *** tsegismont has joined #wildfly[09:22:39] *** whitingjr has joined #wildfly[09:22:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v whitingjr[09:24:54] *** rhusar has joined #wildfly[09:25:19] *** oskutka has joined #wildfly[09:25:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v oskutka[09:27:59] *** gdm85 has quit IRC[09:28:10] *** cberndt has joined #wildfly[09:28:44] *** rsvoboda_ has joined #wildfly[09:28:44] 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that is news to me, how well does it work?[23:34:11] <uberjar> fair point, but isn't it true that 90% of all JBOSS deployments are just a simple HTTP servlet ? shouldn't it support zero-downtime deploys for that most simple usecase ?[23:35:24] <doctau> uberjar: say you have a deployment with a WAR and some EJBs, where a servlet calls an EJB to do some work[23:35:33] *** emmanuel is now known as emmanuel_off[23:35:34] <uberjar> ctomc: disk files need to be sharable for it to work, the app must undeploy cleanly, but then yea it pretty much works[23:35:39] <doctau> when a request gets sent to the old servlet, does the EJB call go to the old EJB or the new one?[23:36:15] <ctomc> uberjar nice, that undeploy cleanliny thing means it is not zero-downtime[23:36:22] <ctomc> as this is very complex thing to do right[23:36:27] <ctomc> we are working on it for 9[23:36:40] <ctomc> but it gets complex and hard to do right quite fast[23:36:50] <uberjar> doctau: well isn't that why you losely couple systems using JMS ?[23:36:52] <ctomc> as doctau says it is not just http request[23:37:08] <uberjar> doctau: old EJB goes down, stops processing messages, new EJB comes up starts processing where the old one left off[23:37:14] <ctomc> that is just entry point, then you have backend logic that needs to complete their transactions that web request initiated[23:37:26] <ctomc> and stuff needs to be commited to db if db is used etc[23:37:31] <doctau> uberjar: so your old servlet just called the new EJB? that will break some applications.[23:37:51] <doctau> part of the problem is that in these complex situtations, no everyone agrees what the right thing to do is[23:37:54] <uberjar> oh[23:38:01] <uberjar> yea..[23:38:35] <uberjar> i see what you mean.. the order in which the new environment brings itself up can break the application logic[23:38:41] <ctomc> idea we are working on is that when you deploy new version of app, old one would go into gracefull shutdown and new one would be deployed in paralel[23:38:41] <doctau> on the other hand your EJB may be controlling access to a resource, so having two @Singleton EJBs running at once could also break applications[23:39:02] <ctomc> and then old app would handle old requests till the end and new one would start handling new requests[23:40:02] <doctau> yeah, if you can do a clean cut-over that has (mostly) sensible semantics[23:40:28] <doctau> but if you want the "requests for old HTTP sessions go to old apps" type semantics, it gets difficult even faster[23:41:10] <uberjar> I see what you mean it's more complicated than I had initial imagined[23:41:16] <doctau> another chestnut, both versions of the app binds "java:a/b" to JNDI on startup and unbinds it on shutdown[23:41:28] <doctau> what happens if you start up the new version before the old one is shut down?[23:42:21] <jbossbot> new jira [WFLY-4256] JDR should collect patch info [Open (Unresolved) Enhancement, Major, Brad Maxwell] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WFLY-4256[23:51:12] *** sannegrinovero has joined #wildfly[23:51:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sannegrinovero[23:51:14] *** qmx_ has joined #wildfly[23:51:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v qmx_[23:51:27] *** emmanuel has joined #wildfly[23:51:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v emmanuel[23:51:49] *** obrut has quit IRC[23:51:50] *** cberndt has quit IRC[23:51:51] *** Elisha has quit IRC[23:51:56] *** mbabacek|karm has quit IRC[23:52:00] *** ozizka has quit IRC[23:52:10] *** emmanuel_off has quit IRC[23:52:24] *** qmx has quit IRC[23:52:38] *** klape_afk has quit IRC[23:52:44] *** lance|afk has quit IRC[23:52:47] *** uberjar has quit IRC[23:52:56] *** bstansberry has quit IRC[23:53:00] *** whitingjr has quit IRC[23:53:09] *** blSnoopy has quit IRC[23:53:12] *** jsanda has quit IRC[23:53:13] *** jamezp has quit IRC[23:53:19] *** Bubba83 has quit IRC[23:53:24] *** doctau has quit IRC[23:53:28] *** Areks has quit IRC[23:53:41] *** theute has quit IRC[23:53:42] *** jsightler has quit IRC[23:53:43] *** TinkerTyper has quit IRC[23:53:49] *** ehsavoie has quit IRC[23:54:24] *** qmx_ is now known as qmx[23:54:29] *** lanceball has joined #wildfly[23:54:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v lanceball[23:54:33] *** gdae has quit IRC[23:54:35] *** balunasj has quit IRC[23:54:36] *** liweinan has quit IRC[23:54:42] *** ghenriks has quit IRC[23:54:47] *** dmlloyd has quit IRC[23:55:14] *** ctomc has quit IRC[23:55:19] *** ttarrant has quit IRC[23:55:21] *** jcacek has quit IRC[23:55:26] *** night199uk has quit IRC[23:55:46] *** doctau has joined #wildfly[23:55:46] *** Areks has joined #wildfly[23:55:47] *** theute has joined #wildfly[23:55:47] *** jsightler has joined #wildfly[23:55:47] *** TinkerTyper has joined #wildfly[23:55:48] *** ehsavoie has joined #wildfly[23:55:48] *** tepper.freenode.net sets mode: +vvvv doctau theute jsightler ehsavoie