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[16:20:29] <alesj> ge0ffrey: yt?
[16:25:23] <ge0ffrey> alesj: hi alejs
[16:25:32] <ge0ffrey> *alesj
[16:28:50] <ge0ffrey> alesj: how can I help?
[16:30:41] <alesj> ge0ffrey: hey
[16:30:47] <alesj> i got rid of jetty-web.xml
[16:30:57] <ge0ffrey> alesj: you did? great!
[16:31:04] <ge0ffrey> alesj: and jetty-env.xml?
[16:31:15] <alesj> and i guess the purpose of jetty-env.xml is probably in BeanManager and JNDI?
[16:31:51] <ge0ffrey> I think jetty-env.xml might just be because the variables used in jetty-web.xml need to be there
[16:32:51] <ge0ffrey> hmm, no my last statement is incorrect
[16:33:07] <ge0ffrey> http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html_single/#d0e5286
[16:33:47] <ge0ffrey> alesj: does it work for both jetty 6 and jetty 7?
[16:34:18] <ge0ffrey> once the snapshot hits nexus, let me know, (including the snapshot version), I 'll try it out on guvnor
[16:36:15] <alesj> i removed all jetty-web.xml and it worked
[16:36:35] <alesj> let me now check what exactly does the -env.xml do
[16:37:53] <ge0ffrey> k tnx, if that's gone too, then we're a lot closer to a portable war
[16:41:12] <alesj> hmmm, imo JETTY_ENV in JettyDeployments is broken ...
[16:41:18] <alesj> i wonder why Jetty doesn't complain ...
[16:43:20] <alesj> ah, no ? one ARG is closed immediately
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[17:04:06] <alesj> ge0ffrey: hmmm, the -env.xml hack kicks in too lazy when applied in Listener ...
[17:04:35] <ge0ffrey> alesj: that's annoying, because the -env.xml needs to be different between jetty 6 and jetty 7
[17:04:44] <ge0ffrey> it's impossible to have one that works for both
[17:05:32] <alesj> yeah ...
[17:05:39] <alesj> but the binding check is done while parsing
[17:05:46] <alesj> which is before Listener gets initialized
[17:06:02] <alesj> ge0ffrey: ^
[17:06:34] <ge0ffrey> What's the binding check?
[17:06:55] <alesj> web.xml has resource-env-ref
[17:07:03] <alesj> which is where BM is defined
[17:07:35] <alesj> if you wanna use it as jndi in web apps
[17:07:48] <alesj> what we do here is bind it in -env.xml
[17:07:57] <alesj> and then look it up in web.xml parsing
[17:08:08] <alesj> and properly re-bind
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[17:16:01] <ge0ffrey> Can the part inside web.xml be moved into the listener too, and done after the listener does the env part?
[17:17:10] <alesj> it could, but that would make it web conytainer dependant
[17:17:20] <alesj> e.g. Tomcat doesn't need that move
[17:22:19] <ge0ffrey> alesj: so? :)
[17:22:45] <ge0ffrey> alesj: as a user, who prefers it that weld-internals deal with that pain, instead me, I think that's a great idea ;)
[17:23:26] <ge0ffrey> it's definitly more of challenge, but the weld listener already recognizes the web container, no?
[17:23:41] <ge0ffrey> and the web.xml BeanManager part is specific to tomcat and jetty only anyway
[17:24:28] <alesj> ge0ffrey: i'm happy to leave this hacking excercise to you ;-)
[17:24:36] 
[17:24:43] <alesj> as that's what it is, at the end
[17:24:57] <alesj> trying to hack around the limitations of web containers
[17:25:01] <ge0ffrey> alesj: yea :/
[17:25:19] <alesj> i'll push my changes
[17:25:24] <alesj> and you're welcome to continue
[17:25:26] <ge0ffrey> alesj: most of that bootstrap code is, but it does make the life and quick-starts of weld a lot easier
[17:25:39] <alesj> i agree
[17:25:57] <alesj> but there are more important issues that this hacking excercise
[17:26:09] <alesj> but i won't mind if you hack around them
[17:26:24] <alesj> i'll be more than happy to merge once you're done :-)
[17:26:54] <ge0ffrey> alesj: tnx for obsolete the jetty-web already. I've already spend my time budget on weld-seam3 by a month, so I doubt I 'll get time for it, but if it really bugs us I might
[17:27:03] <alesj> e.g. i removed the need for jetty-web.xml, leaving you the jetty-env.xml ;-)
[17:27:52] <alesj> ge0ffrey: nah, i'll have a word with MarkP ? you'll be fine ? hacking away the next month on jetty-env.xml :-)
[17:28:11] <ge0ffrey> alesj: agreed :) convince him and I 'll happily fix it
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[21:44:55] <gastaldi> hey
[21:45:04] <gastaldi> have you guys ever run Weld on Weblogic ?
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[21:45:22] <alesj> gastaldi: i haven't run WL since 2003 :-)
[21:45:27] <gastaldi> :)
[21:45:33] <gastaldi> lucky guy
[21:46:02] <alesj> it wasn't bad then
[21:46:12] <alesj> where as WS was always a pita ...
[21:49:52] <struberg> gastaldi we have OWB running on weblogic
[21:49:57] <struberg> but we had to hack a few things
[21:50:08] <struberg> because weblogic e.g. uses a different url format
[21:50:19] <struberg> wsjar:// instead of jar:// etc
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[21:50:45] <struberg> probably you might have similar probs with weld
[21:51:13] <alesj> weld has plugable Scanner
[21:51:23] <alesj> e.g. we needed custom VFS stuff for pre-AS6
[21:51:36] <struberg> then you might need to impl such a custom scanner for weblogic
[21:51:40] <alesj> with tighter integration, there was no need for it
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[21:58:06] <gastaldi> :P
[21:58:18] 
[21:58:46] <struberg> pfff ;)
[21:59:10] <gastaldi> Just need to figure out what is the JNDI name for each EJB in Weblogic
[21:59:27] <gastaldi> So I can inject using a lookup mechanism in applicationContext.xml
[21:59:33] <gastaldi> :(
[21:59:43] <gastaldi> Any hint ?
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[22:01:23] <struberg> welcome to the JNDI data toilette
[22:01:40] <struberg> almost the worst invention ever
[22:02:04] <gastaldi> :)
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