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[09:14:17] <alesj> stuartdouglas: hey
[09:14:26] <stuartdouglas> alesj: hey
[09:14:59] <alesj> done with new @RequestScoped? :-)
[09:14:59] <stuartdouglas> Did you see my patch?
[09:15:03] <alesj> nto yet
[09:15:12] <stuartdouglas> pretty much, I just have one more thing to add
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[09:15:21] <stuartdouglas> that I am compiling now
[09:15:38] <stuartdouglas> I also cache session, app and conversation in the thread locals
[09:15:44] <stuartdouglas> but only for the life of the request
[09:15:58] <alesj> cool
[09:16:00] <stuartdouglas> so other scopes should also see a big improvement as well
[09:16:14] <alesj> where is the patch? in your arq-up branch?
[09:16:22] <stuartdouglas> in my master
[09:19:04] <stuartdouglas> I really hate the weld code style now after working with AS7 :-)
[09:19:16] <stuartdouglas> the braces should be on the same line damnit
[09:21:07] <alesj> hehe, yeah, just noticed you're using diff one now :-)
[09:23:20] <alesj> stuartdouglas: i got a strange AS6 hang yday, running either managed or remote
[09:23:45] <alesj> with my current Weld == master + your arq-up
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[09:33:06] <alesj> stuartdouglas: were you able to do a full run on AS6?
[09:33:14] <alesj> with this latest TL patch
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[10:07:38] <alesj> stuartdouglas: ping?
[10:07:40] <stuartdouglas> alesj: I was able to do a full run
[10:07:58] <alesj> managed or remote?
[10:08:07] <stuartdouglas> managed
[10:08:14] <stuartdouglas> but this is pre arq-upgrade
[10:08:40] <alesj> with this TL patch marged?
[10:08:58] <stuartdouglas> yes, with the TL patch, but with the old arq version
[10:09:21] <alesj> can you merge also with arq-up and see if it hangs for you too?
[10:09:40] <alesj> you can try the AS6 trunk
[10:09:42] <stuartdouglas> ok, are you happy with the TL patch to be merged upstream?
[10:10:03] <alesj> if you say that the tests and tck pass, then sure
[10:10:21] <alesj> i can have a closer look if you want
[10:10:26] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 07f4278.. Stuart Douglas Add ThreadLocal cache to proxies to improve performance
[10:10:27] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 1027ee7.. Stuart Douglas Invalidate cache on session destruction
[10:10:27] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/weld/core/compare/d1eea5d...1027ee7
[10:10:33] <stuartdouglas> to late :-)
[10:10:36] <alesj> :-)
[10:10:56] <alesj> i added a alias to AS6 for new AS7 default DS
[10:11:08] <alesj> so same tests with DS should also work in AS6
[10:12:39] <alesj> stuartdouglas: but as i said, something hanged the tests
[10:13:05] <alesj> in managed it took forever to complete, hence i ctrl-c-ed it
[10:13:07] <alesj> in remote
[10:13:16] <alesj> the tests never finished
[10:13:49] <alesj> using jvisualvm for thread dump didn't help me much, no obvious deadlock
[10:17:02] <stuartdouglas> ok, I am starting a run now, against 6.0.0.Final
[10:17:09] <stuartdouglas> I will try 6.0.0 upstream next
[10:25:58] <alesj> 6.0.0. will fail with no DS found
[10:26:10] <alesj> as I've changed it in the tests to use ExampleDS
[10:26:29] <alesj> 6.1 yday's trunk has the alias/linkref
[10:27:50] <stuartdouglas> alesj: how long are we going to keep supporting AS6?
[10:27:59] <stuartdouglas> Is there actually going to be a 6.1 release?
[10:30:34] <alesj> yup
[10:30:41] <alesj> it has to be
[10:30:54] <alesj> we got comunity engaged into it
[10:31:02] <alesj> it wouldn't be fair if it wasn't
[10:31:10] <alesj> i would support weld for 6.1
[10:31:15] <alesj> then probably not anymore
[10:35:44] <alesj> stuartdouglas: off to the office, brb
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[10:49:33] <alesj> stuartdouglas: back
[10:49:46] <alesj> stuartdouglas: how do your AS6 runs go?
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[11:24:17] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 9918f05.. Ales Justin [WELD-914, WELD-938]; throw an error on missing beans.xml, remove log4j.xml from WeldSE.
[11:24:19] <jbossbot> jira [WELD-914] WARN if beans.xml is missing in standalone mode. [Open (Unresolved) Enhancement, Major, Ales Justin] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WELD-914
[11:24:19] <jbossbot> jira [WELD-938] Remove log4j.xml from weld-se-core [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WELD-938
[11:24:20] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 6ea1611.. Ales Justin [WELD-869]; fix bundle version output.
[11:24:20] <jbossbot> jira [WELD-869] Weld OSGi bundle reports version as ${parsedVersion.osgiVersion} [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Minor, Ales Justin] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WELD-869
[11:24:21] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/weld/core/compare/1027ee7...6ea1611
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[11:37:13] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 5004475.. Ales Justin Merge remote branch 'jharting/WELD-851'
[11:37:13] <jbossbot> jira [WELD-851] Upgrade to findbugs-maven-plugin 2.3.2 when available [Resolved (Done) Task, Minor, Jozef Hartinger] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WELD-851
[11:37:14] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/weld/core/compare/6ea1611...5004475
[11:43:31] <alesj> stuartdouglas: https://github.com/weld/core/commit/3ab685141926140e4401e780f21334fba3faac8b
[11:43:31] <alesj> how come I don't see any content?
[11:43:32] <jbossbot> git [core] 3ab6851.. Stuart Douglas Add beans.xml to the correct location in the permalink example
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[11:59:31] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 417dfe1.. Ales Justin [WELD-780]; fix jetty embedded, more docs
[11:59:32] <jbossbot> jira [WELD-780] Place beans.xml under WEB-INF instead of WEB-INF/classes/META-INF in jsf/permalink example [Open (Unresolved) Task, Minor, Ales Justin] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WELD-780
[11:59:32] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/weld/core/compare/5004475...417dfe1
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[12:17:38] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 0e45a07.. Sean Flanigan WELD-901: change config for Zanata 1.3 upgrade on translate.jboss.org
[12:17:39] <jbossbot> jira [WELD-901] config change: handle translate.jboss.org upgrade to Zanata 1.3 [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Sean Flanigan] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WELD-901
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[12:21:56] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 51b5fd0.. mgencur at redhat dot com profile for running functional tests on JBoss AS 7
[12:21:56] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/weld/core/compare/0e45a07...51b5fd0
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[14:08:33] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 74bffdb.. Marius Bogoevici Tests for CDI-115 and JBAS-9266
[14:08:34] <jbossbot> jira [CDI-115] Interceptor.intercept() must throw exceptions [Closed (Done) Bug, Major, Marius Bogoevici] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-115
[14:08:35] <jbossbot> jira [JBAS-9266] Redirected to: https://issues.jboss.org/si/jira.issueviews:issue-xml/AS7-194/AS7-194.xml
[14:08:36] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-194] java.lang.reflect.UndeclaredThrowableException when using @ApplicationException in combination with @InterceptorBinding [Closed (Done) Bug, Major, Stuart Douglas] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-194
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[16:41:46] <lincolnthree> hey alesj, you around?
[16:42:49] <alesj> lincolnthree: hey
[16:42:53] <lincolnthree> hey!
[16:43:02] <lincolnthree> Question about CDI1.1 or Weld in general
[16:43:06] <alesj> shoot
[16:43:09] <lincolnthree> Any plans to support runtime addition of bean metadata?
[16:43:26] <alesj> can't you do that already with Extensions?
[16:43:38] <lincolnthree> Ah, sorry.
[16:43:43] <lincolnthree> I mean after the container her booted.
[16:43:48] <lincolnthree> has*
[16:44:03] <alesj> i doubt it, as that breaks all sort of validation
[16:44:11] <alesj> unless you re-start the whoe thing
[16:44:13] <alesj> whole
[16:44:13] <lincolnthree> Right, ok.
[16:44:21] <pmuir> lincolnthree: the only way to do would be to restart the beans and any beans which depend on that bean
[16:44:28] <pmuir> and so on through the dep graph
[16:44:37] <alesj> CDI ~ statically checked configuration
[16:44:50] <lincolnthree> Ok, next question.
[16:44:53] <alesj> pmuir: yeah ==> much easier to just re-start the whole thing :-)
[16:45:13] <pmuir> issue is that probably you would restart the entire app almost ;-)
[16:45:23] <lincolnthree> Any plans to build-in metadata index, so you don't have to rescan every time you boot?
[16:45:26] <pmuir> could be faster though as you don't need to do a bunch of stuff
[16:45:32] <pmuir> lincolnthree: yes
[16:45:40] <pmuir> lots of plans
[16:45:47] <pmuir> they just need impl ;-)
[16:45:49] <lincolnthree> pmuir :)
[16:45:50] <alesj> lincolnthree: yeah, we're planning on reusing existing container metadata
[16:45:58] <alesj> pmuir: pssst! ;-)
[16:46:10] <alesj> e.g. AS7 ?> Jandex
[16:46:16] <lincolnthree> For example, forge is taking about 8 seconds to start up because weld is doing lots of stuff
[16:46:18] <alesj> hence Weld would use Jandex transparently
[16:46:20] <lincolnthree> about 500 beans in Forge
[16:46:29] <lincolnthree> Jandex, right
[16:46:52] <alesj> we ? stuartdouglas and me ? had a look at how metadata is done now
[16:47:01] <alesj> unfortunately it wasn't straight fwd
[16:47:03] <alesj> to change things
[16:47:07] <alesj> hence not done yet
[16:47:12] <alesj> more time will be needed
[16:47:24] <alesj> hopefully with AS7 and cloud done to some extent
[16:47:34] <alesj> stuartdouglas and me and pmuir will find some more time
[16:47:35] <alesj> :-)
[16:47:43] <lincolnthree> I'm trying to figure out how to bring modularity to forge, while also sticking with the CDI programming model.
[16:47:50] <lincolnthree> JBoss Modules, etc + CDI
[16:48:03] <lincolnthree> unfortunately, JBM isn't exactly documented ;)
[16:48:07] <alesj> weld behaves the way CL modularization tells it to
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[16:48:21] <lincolnthree> Right, so weld will pick up what it sees
[16:48:23] <alesj> e.g. see AS7+Weld integration
[16:48:23] <lincolnthree> and ignore what it doesn't.
[16:48:27] <alesj> yes
[16:48:39] <alesj> CDI/Weld per spec has to follow visibility rules
[16:48:41] <lincolnthree> that's no problem then
[16:48:44] <pmuir> lincolnthree: we should be able to speed up Weld boot quite a lot as well
[16:48:52] <pmuir> without a metadata index
[16:49:41] <lincolnthree> looking forward to it :)
[16:49:56] <alesj> pmuir: how? :-)
[16:50:13] <alesj> pmuir: we need to go more fine grained, which will slow down things
[16:50:23] <alesj> perhaps we could add a spi for this
[16:50:27] <alesj> and hook into MSC
[16:50:35] <alesj> and re-use concurrency
[16:52:33] <alesj> pmuir: we also discussed discarding the info/data once done
[16:52:38] <alesj> less memory == faster
[16:53:58] <pmuir> right, i don't think we need to build as detailed metadata for everything as we do
[16:54:01] <pmuir> it's a bit ott
[16:54:27] <pmuir> we could be cleverer
[16:54:48] <pmuir> i also think we should be able to do this much more concurrently
[16:54:56] <pmuir> but stuartdouglas tried to do this and got stuck somehow
[16:57:08] <alesj> yup
[16:57:18] <alesj> we had a stab at it when i was down under
[16:57:27] <alesj> got stuck pretty quickly unfortunately
[17:01:31] <pmuir> as this should work (at least for producing all the metadata about classes and probably for beans as well)
[17:01:35] <pmuir> and should be a real win
[17:04:56] <alesj> pmuir: like i said, i would really like us to use MSC underneath
[17:05:15] <alesj> as that would use all of the concurent magic already
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[17:05:31] <pmuir> i'm not sure about that
[17:05:37] <pmuir> better to expose spis I think
[17:05:47] <alesj> and just fall back to our own if none avaliable
[17:05:55] <alesj> that could be a spi
[17:06:00] <alesj> same as other services
[17:06:45] <pmuir> we can even just fall back to a non-concurrent impl
[17:07:15] <alesj> yup
[17:07:28] <alesj> we can even fall back to what we have now :-)
[17:07:32] <pmuir> yes
[17:07:47] <alesj> ok, definitely on my TODO list
[17:07:56] <alesj> first 1.1.2.Final
[17:08:00] <alesj> then some more cloud
[17:08:08] <alesj> then some AS7
[17:08:17] <alesj> need to find time for CapeDwarf ...
[17:08:29] <alesj> and Monteray
[17:08:35] <alesj> ? jeez :-)
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[21:20:52] <lincolnthree> stuartdouglas: when using a CDI decorator, does the decorator need to be in the same archive as the class it is decorating?
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