June 3, 2018 
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June 3, 2018 [01:13:20] *** Deluxe <Deluxe!~Deluxe@212.4.150.151> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:16:12] *** nsf <nsf!~nsf@jiss.convex.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)[01:24:00] <rotaerk> hmm I upgraded my OS (nixos), which included an upgrade from linux kernel 4.9.46 to 4.14.46 (just saying ... no idea if that's actually the problem)[01:24:49] <rotaerk> and now my test vulkan program fails with VK_ERROR_INITIALIZATION_FAILED when vkGettPhysicalDeviceSurfaceFormatsKHR is called[01:25:03] <rotaerk> if I boot back into the pre-update configuration of nixos, it works again[01:25:35] <rotaerk> is this likely a graphics driver issue? if not, is there a reasonable approach to diagnosing the cause?[01:26:29] <rotaerk> I tried forcing the linux kernel to be 4.9.104 (with its corresponding nvidia driver) and that didn't fix it[02:20:53] *** penguin42 <penguin42!~dg@cpc109017-salf6-2-0-cust428.10-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined ##vulkan[02:24:47] <penguin42> is there anything which says which image formats are commonly supported? I found out that the B8G8R8A8int doesn't work on intel but works fine on my Radeon)[02:25:31] *** Kingsquee <Kingsquee!~kingsquee@d66-183-127-35.bchsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: taxes taxes taxes, am I doing it right?)[02:26:25] <ratchetfreak> https://vulkan.gpuinfo.org/listformats.php[02:31:02] <penguin42> ratchetfreak: Thanks! So that top one says 99.78% of devices listed that as 'optimal' ?[02:31:37] <ratchetfreak> that's the tiling[02:32:20] <ratchetfreak> it means that 99% of devices support it in the optimal tiling,[02:33:17] <penguin42> ah ok[02:34:41] <penguin42> Is there a decoder somewhere for the image types to explain what they mean and what the equivalent GLSL layout is? Some seem obvious others less so; I mean what's an S8_UINT?[02:34:56] <ratchetfreak> there's a section for that in the spec[02:36:45] <penguin42> ah, yes, I see it I think; features/formats[02:37:13] <ratchetfreak> there's also a set of tables detailing which ones are required to be supported[02:37:33] <penguin42> (ah, S8 is 8 bit stencil)[02:38:17] <penguin42> yeh that's features/formats 30.3.3 in 1.1 by the looks of it[02:41:10] <penguin42> ratchetfreak: Thanks![02:41:30] *** keith-man <keith-man!~Keith@2606:6000:4380:4800:49ac:a224:5992:ed4e> has joined ##vulkan[02:41:42] *** keith-man is now known as wandering-human[02:42:10] *** wandering-human <wandering-human!~Keith@2606:6000:4380:4800:49ac:a224:5992:ed4e> has left ##vulkan[03:01:57] *** ratchetfreak <ratchetfreak!~ratchetfr@d51A4BEAF.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:36:30] *** TSS_ <TSS_!~TSS@79.115.175.158> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[03:37:22] *** TSS_ <TSS_!~TSS@2a02:2f0a:4050:386:d250:99ff:fe83:4a0a> has joined ##vulkan[04:34:51] *** penguin42 <penguin42!~dg@cpc109017-salf6-2-0-cust428.10-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:56:36] *** cheakoirccloud <cheakoirccloud!uid293319@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gqncrielrkmjsjbl> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[05:03:02] *** MrFlibble <MrFlibble!MrFlibble2@2.122.47.217> has quit IRC (Quit: MrFlibble)[05:14:13] *** cheakoirccloud <cheakoirccloud!uid293319@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-niitwwqmtmvzwupi> has joined ##vulkan[05:37:34] *** hgoel <hgoel!uid175521@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aglqbeqraolafbeb> has quit IRC ()[05:37:38] <dyl> What are the major differences between 1.0 and 1.1?[06:40:58] *** ciaala <ciaala!~crypt@2a02:120b:2c1f:4960:6ef0:49ff:feee:4777> has joined ##vulkan[07:07:59] *** Kingsqueeee <Kingsqueeee!~kingsquee@d66-183-127-35.bchsia.telus.net> has joined ##vulkan[07:37:53] *** _borkr_ <_borkr_!~borkr@static130-244.mimer.net> has joined ##vulkan[07:39:31] *** daxar <daxar!~daxar@212-183-86-94.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined ##vulkan[07:42:34] *** daxar4 <daxar4!~daxar@62-47-178-73.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[07:42:57] *** ciaala <ciaala!~crypt@2a02:120b:2c1f:4960:6ef0:49ff:feee:4777> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[07:50:48] *** slime <slime!~slime73@blk-215-81-93.eastlink.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[08:02:41] *** xissburg <xissburg!~xissburg@unaffiliated/xissburg> has quit IRC (Quit: ZZZzzz…)[08:10:49] *** bpmedley <bpmedley!~bpm@c-24-72-144-115.ni.gigamonster.net> has joined ##vulkan[08:15:13] *** ImQ009 <ImQ009!~ImQ009@unaffiliated/imq009> has joined ##vulkan[08:29:21] *** _borkr_ <_borkr_!~borkr@static130-244.mimer.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:42:37] *** borkr <borkr!~borkr@static130-244.mimer.net> has joined ##vulkan[08:59:16] *** sla_ro|master <sla_ro|master!~sla.ro@78.96.209.89> has joined ##vulkan[09:34:20] *** ciaala <ciaala!~crypt@2a02:120b:2c1f:4960:6ef0:49ff:feee:4777> has joined ##vulkan[09:36:37] *** cheakoirccloud <cheakoirccloud!uid293319@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-niitwwqmtmvzwupi> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[09:45:12] *** Guest4630 <Guest4630!4d3b9548@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.59.149.72> has joined ##vulkan[09:46:23] *** nsf <nsf!~nsf@jiss.convex.ru> has joined ##vulkan[09:49:37] *** soulz <soulz!~soulz@unaffiliated/soulz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[09:54:13] *** davr0s <davr0s!~textual@host86-157-70-142.range86-157.btcentralplus.com> has joined ##vulkan[10:03:26] *** soulz <soulz!~soulz@unaffiliated/soulz> has joined ##vulkan[10:05:06] *** neure <neure!~Timo@mobile-access-bceed0-102.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined ##vulkan[10:32:14] *** zgreg_ <zgreg_!~greg@nest-1.gnumpf.tk> has quit IRC (Quit: Reconnecting)[10:32:22] *** zgreg <zgreg!~greg@nest-1.gnumpf.tk> has joined ##vulkan[10:36:53] *** sla_ro|master <sla_ro|master!~sla.ro@78.96.209.89> has quit IRC ()[10:37:05] *** Kingsqueeee <Kingsqueeee!~kingsquee@d66-183-127-35.bchsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: taxes taxes taxes, am I doing it right?)[10:37:17] *** sla_ro|master <sla_ro|master!~sla.ro@78.96.209.89> has joined ##vulkan[10:42:01] *** borkr <borkr!~borkr@static130-244.mimer.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:09:34] *** neurre <neurre!~Timo@mobile-access-bceed0-102.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined ##vulkan[11:09:37] *** neure <neure!~Timo@mobile-access-bceed0-102.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:18:47] *** neure <neure!~Timo@mobile-access-bceed0-102.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined ##vulkan[11:19:09] *** davr0s <davr0s!~textual@host86-157-70-142.range86-157.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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