June 20, 2017 
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June 20, 2017 [00:11:46] *** Vanaheim <Vanaheim!~Vanaheim@janus-nat-128-240-225-82.ncl.ac.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:16:07] *** metalhead33 <metalhead33!~metalhead@BC24CF54.dsl.pool.telekom.hu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:17:53] *** jkilpatr <jkilpatr!~jkilpatr@2602:30a:c7da:b600:527b:9dff:feac:9d74> has joined ##vulkan[00:26:55] *** glYoda <glYoda!~MTLYoda@c-71-236-230-251.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has joined ##vulkan[00:28:38] *** traveller_ <traveller_!~vargr_@2602:30b:82b5:dfa9:217e:7a7d:975:ae36> has joined ##vulkan[00:28:51] <gamester> Does anyone know a way in which BufferUsageFlagBits might affect performance for buffers sitting in non-device-local memory?[00:29:10] *** jkilpatr <jkilpatr!~jkilpatr@2602:30a:c7da:b600:527b:9dff:feac:9d74> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:29:21] <gamester> I'm guessing the bits chosen should not affect performance but I lack knowledge on GPUs[00:30:49] <gamester> well i dont know[00:31:56] <Ralith> A GPU might have multiple different memory access pathways for different purposes[00:37:33] *** ShadowIce <ShadowIce!~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:38:14] <gamester> okay, time to research GPUs better[00:40:49] <baldurk> if it's not device local then the usage flags are less likely to make a difference but they may still be useful information for drivers to make different decisions[00:55:30] *** goiko <goiko!~goiko@unaffiliated/goiko> has quit IRC (Quit: K.O.)[00:56:51] *** MrFlibble <MrFlibble!MrFlibble@2.219.22.82> has left ##vulkan[00:57:57] *** opencw <opencw!~opencw@185.66.193.71> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:58:08] *** Ipe <Ipe!~Ipe@85-76-64-151-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:05:31] *** Casandir <Casandir!~Casandir@jones-dhcp-117.greenmountainaccess.net> has joined ##vulkan[01:05:31] *** Casandir <Casandir!~Casandir@jones-dhcp-117.greenmountainaccess.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[01:05:31] *** 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It’s the only way to saturate PCIe bandwidth, so if you need to upload or download data from the GPU, the copy queue is the one you should be using."[14:28:40] *** spara <spara!~spara@ARennes-258-1-212-191.w2-11.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined ##vulkan[14:34:26] <ratchetfreak> IIRC shortly after they made that statement NVidea changed the queues they exposed from only gen-purpose queues to include a special copy queue[14:35:09] <ratchetfreak> though that can be interpreted in several ways...[14:35:32] <gamester> ratchetfreak: I just found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/vulkan/comments/4x0lbu/nvidias_lone_transfer_queue/d6bv5tf/[14:36:01] <gamester> So the answer is yes[14:37:34] <ratchetfreak> and it makes sense, make copy queue the master of the pcie and make other queues sync to it as needed when they need to do pcie transfers (with the necessary overhead)[14:38:16] *** ville <ville!~ville@37-136-115-167.rev.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit:)[14:40:12] *** davr0s <davr0s!~textual@host81-153-35-152.range81-153.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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