June 17, 2017 
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June 17, 2017 [00:00:02] *** ImQ009 <ImQ009!~ImQ009@unaffiliated/imq009> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:01:44] *** ravior <ravior!~crapitea@5-13-233-238.residential.rdsnet.ro> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:11:41] *** rlarionov <rlarionov!~rlarionov@68-202-221-190.res.bhn.net> has joined ##vulkan[00:34:13] *** rlarionov <rlarionov!~rlarionov@68-202-221-190.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[00:34:19] <goiko> hi, I am looking for a mini board (like raspberry pi, banana pi, tinker board, etc..) that supports official Vulkan ? Any clue?[00:34:59] *** LurchMan <LurchMan!~LurchMan@ny01-p01-10ge-xe-2-3-0-1.turnkeyinternet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[00:35:07] *** rlarionov <rlarionov!~rlarionov@68-202-221-190.res.bhn.net> has joined ##vulkan[00:35:52] <ratchet_freak> all conformant products are listed at: https://www.khronos.org/conformance/adopters/conformant-products[00:38:52] <goiko> thanks, the Tinker Board from Asus has a Mali T764 GPU, not listed in the conformant products, but it should work, nice[00:40:15] <baldurk> Mali-T760 is listed on the page ratchet_freak linked, that one is just a variant of it from what I can see[00:44:28] <goiko> your right, so Tinker Board is a mini board with Vulkan support, perfect xD I hope the next Raspberry Pi will support it, too :/[00:45:54] <goiko> Asus 90MB0QY1-M0EAY0 Tinker Board[00:55:59] *** spara <spara!~spara@ARennes-258-1-198-152.w2-11.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined ##vulkan[00:57:36] *** vitimiti <vitimiti!~Celtor@unaffiliated/vitimiti> has 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I was talking about memory allocator function, this is completely right[11:30:03] <thany> as tutorial said it is better to join your memory block to reduce your number of allocations[11:33:51] <laalaa> but is there existing solution? maybe the writer doesn't just know of one[11:36:10] *** MrFlibble <MrFlibble!MrFlibble@2.219.22.82> has joined ##vulkan[11:37:08] <Yaniel> there are existing algorithms for handling suballocations[11:37:18] <Yaniel> i.e. any memory allocator algorithm[11:37:38] <Yaniel> but no well-known libs that do the thing specifically for vulkan[11:38:22] <laalaa> hm alright[11:39:21] <Yaniel> suballocations aren't really different from allocations except they don't do syscalls[11:45:02] *** thany <thany!~thany@mail.taraprogram.ir> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:45:12] *** TechnoCrunch <TechnoCrunch!~TechnoCru@101.100.137.146> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:04:55] *** ImQ009 <ImQ009!~ImQ009@unaffiliated/imq009> has joined 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