June 7, 2017 
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My goal is to parallelize hashing on the GPU, as I believe it would highly increase the processing speed of my algorithm currently running multithreaded on the CPU. Which one would you recommend I learn?[12:13:42] *** therue <therue!~therue@1-162-74-89.dynamic-ip.hinet.net> has joined ##vulkan[12:13:57] <exDM69> Limeth: Vulkan[12:14:13] <exDM69> not that it makes a huge difference, though. you learn one and you'll get along with the other[12:14:41] <exDM69> pick whatever you can run on your $TARGET_HARDWARE[12:15:30] *** therue <therue!~therue@1-162-74-89.dynamic-ip.hinet.net> has left ##vulkan ("WeeChat 1.8")[12:15:30] <mangelis> and it's planned that opencl will merge into vulkan in the future[12:16:21] <Limeth> I see. Great to hear. 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Vulkan API is finally supported by Oculus[20:32:54] *** davr0s <davr0s!~textual@host86-162-141-50.range86-162.btcentralplus.com> has joined ##vulkan[20:34:32] *** vijaikumar <vijaikumar!uid102190@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ghmfznwigakodfef> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:58:11] *** tacchinotacchi <tacchinotacchi!~tacchinot@net-2-38-5-175.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:22:05] *** Lucretia <Lucretia!~laguest@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:23:56] *** Lucretia <Lucretia!~laguest@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia> has joined ##vulkan[21:38:23] *** tambry <tambry!~tambre@5494-b407-d370-84b5-0e80-8a31-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[21:42:29] *** HuntsMan <HuntsMan!~hunts@x4e34d94d.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined ##vulkan[21:46:20] *** sla_ro|master <sla_ro|master!~sla.ro@95.76.45.217> has quit IRC ()[22:05:07] <Discoloda> i had no idea it wasnt before[22:15:32] <fazias> I grew tired of waiting[22:15:42] <fazias> I guess it took this long for vulkan to be mature enough[22:16:05] <fazias> although it might be wrong way of putting it. Confidence to support it! or something like that.[22:27:17] *** vitimiti <vitimiti!~Celtor@unaffiliated/vitimiti> has joined ##vulkan[22:28:48] <Discoloda> Well, the API has not changed. most that has been improved is spec clarification and driver support.[22:28:56] <chrisf> polarina: that test run is going now. im off to a meeting for a bit, will get results back to you in an hour or so[22:34:44] *** psychicist__ <psychicist__!~psychicis@ip127-8-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[22:35:55] <polarina> chrisf, thanks![22:38:46] *** metalhead33 <metalhead33!~metalhead@540072D1.dsl.pool.telekom.hu> has joined ##vulkan[22:40:11] <metalhead33> Hello everyone[22:41:39] <metalhead33> I read up uploading an image/texture into the GPU's VRAM via Vulkan, and about the problems padding bytes may cause. Now, I have a question regarding that.[22:42:49] <metalhead33> I happen to be using a semi-famous API for loading images, sounds, music, etc. (SFML). SFML's documentation says that sf::Image::getPixelsPtr() returns a pointer to a byte array, whose size is width * height * 4 (because it's in RGBA format). Now, can I assume that this means that I don't have to worry about padding bytes?[22:44:28] <ratchetfreak> it means that sfml doesn't pad[22:44:41] <ratchetfreak> however vulkan may want padded rows[22:44:57] <ratchetfreak> but you can get around that by uploading to a vkBuffer and copyBufferToImage[22:45:18] <metalhead33> Okay, good.[22:46:53] <metalhead33> if I copyBufferToImage, can I get rid of the buffer? Assuming that vk pads the buffered image for me or something.[22:47:15] <ratchetfreak> after the copy is complete you won't need the vkBuffer anymore[22:47:36] <ratchetfreak> and doing a copy on texture upload is recommended anyway because optimal tiling[22:51:37] <metalhead33> On an unrelated note, I have noticed that Blender's GLSL export (Material to GLSL) produces GLSL code that's unusable by Vulkan (the GLSL to Spir-V compiler gives tons of errors). Hell, I doubt it's even usable in contemporary GL to begin with, given how it complains about a lot of stuff.[22:52:38] <ratchetfreak> vulkan flavored glsl is a bit different from opengl glsl[22:52:50] <Yaniel> isn't blender still using legacy opengl[22:53:12] <ratchetfreak> https://www.khronos.org/registry/vulkan/specs/misc/GL_KHR_vulkan_glsl.txt[22:53:20] <Yaniel> meaning the GLSL it uses is likely also old[22:53:36] <metalhead33> I'm pretty sure that Blender is still using Legacy OpenGL... meaning that the generated code won't even function with Modern OpenGL to begin with, let alone Vulkan.[22:54:04] <ratchetfreak> blender needs to be updated then[22:54:39] <metalhead33> There are already some talks about Blender supporting Vulkan in the future, but that's just smalltalk by some fans.[22:54:50] <metalhead33> Lemme give you a snapshot of what happened.[22:55:14] <ratchetfreak> there is a difference between supporting vulkan in the app and generating vulkan ready glsl[22:56:43] <metalhead33> Logs: http://paste.touhou.fm/orexipasom.txt[22:57:00] <metalhead33> The frag: http://paste.touhou.fm/ihosunaxin.cs[22:57:05] <metalhead33> The vert: http://paste.touhou.fm/otuwaqofuw.cs[22:57:32] <metalhead33> Holy mother of cow the frag one is long as ****.[22:58:30] <metalhead33> using -V instead of -G nets the same results, meaning that this legacy crap is... obsolete.[22:59:19] <metalhead33> http://paste.touhou.fm/yocatalero.vbs[23:01:58] *** Guest83978 <Guest83978!~john@host86-147-127-48.range86-147.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:05:07] *** Guest83978 <Guest83978!~john@host86-147-127-48.range86-147.btcentralplus.com> has joined ##vulkan[23:11:07] *** slidercrank <slidercrank!~slidercra@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/fifth/slidercrank> has joined ##vulkan[23:22:40] <chrisf> polarina: back; 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