June 3, 2017 
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June 3, 2017 [00:02:15] *** polarina <polarina!~polarina@wesnoth/translator/Polarina> has joined ##vulkan[00:03:24] *** ector <ector!~asdf@37-247-11-157.customers.ownit.se> has joined ##vulkan[00:16:07] *** jkilpatr <jkilpatr!~jkilpatr@2602:30a:c7da:b600:845f:2921:2881:c7ba> has joined ##vulkan[00:21:55] *** LurchMan <LurchMan!~LurchMan@ny01-p01-10ge-xe-2-3-0-1.turnkeyinternet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[00:24:22] *** jsgrant <jsgrant!~jsgrant@71-11-142-172.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Peace Peeps. o/ If you need me asap, message me at msg([at])jsgrant.io & I'll try to get back to you within 24-to-36 hours.)[00:27:34] *** ZexaronS <ZexaronS!~zexpc@cpe-194-152-22-45.static.triera.net> has joined ##vulkan[00:27:58] *** PortaLu <PortaLu!~laguest@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia> has joined ##vulkan[00:28:11] *** hanna` <hanna`!~haasn@HSI-KBW-109-193-081-112.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined ##vulkan[00:28:35] *** hanna <hanna!~haasn@HSI-KBW-109-193-081-112.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:28:35] *** Lucretia <Lucretia!~laguest@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:28:54] *** ZexaronS <ZexaronS!~zexpc@cpe-194-152-22-45.static.triera.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:31:53] *** sam___ <sam___!foobar@poulet.zoy.org> has joined ##vulkan[00:35:10] *** hanna` is now known as hanna[00:35:21] *** kasumi-owari <kasumi-owari!~kasumi-ow@ftth-213-233-237-007.solcon.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:37:41] *** kasumi-owari <kasumi-owari!~kasumi-ow@ftth-213-233-237-007.solcon.nl> has joined ##vulkan[00:40:14] *** crankslider <crankslider!~slidercra@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/fifth/slidercrank> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[00:40:27] *** pa <pa!~pa@unaffiliated/pa> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[00:40:40] *** pa <pa!~pa@unaffiliated/pa> has joined ##vulkan[00:40:42] *** crankslider <crankslider!~slidercra@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/fifth/slidercrank> has joined ##vulkan[00:40:50] *** ville <ville!~ville@178-55-30-210.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined ##vulkan[00:42:51] *** hunt <hunt!~hunt@howm/hunt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:44:51] *** sam <sam!foobar@poulet.zoy.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:45:22] *** hunt <hunt!~hunt@howm/hunt> has joined ##vulkan[00:46:44] *** navidr <navidr!uid112413@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-piasrkegofsmzjfc> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:51:22] *** spara <spara!~spara@ARennes-258-1-201-115.w2-11.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:53:45] *** ImQ009 <ImQ009!~ImQ009@unaffiliated/imq009> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:59:02] *** glYoda <glYoda!~MTLYoda@c-71-236-230-251.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has joined ##vulkan[01:07:22] *** nsf <nsf!~nsf@jiss.convex.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7.1)[01:11:35] *** abstradelic <abstradelic!~abstradel@unaffiliated/abstradelic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:11:42] *** Guest80280 <Guest80280!~john@host86-147-127-48.range86-147.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[01:17:35] *** ector <ector!~asdf@37-247-11-157.customers.ownit.se> has quit IRC ()[01:19:52] <polarina> I spotted that I was calling vkCmdSetViewport and vkCmdSetScissor before vkCmdBindPipeline. This seems to work (on NVIDIA) and the validation layers don't complain -- even when I set pDynamicState to NULL in the bound pipeline.[01:20:14] <polarina> This sounds to me like an omission in the validation layers. Am I correct that none of these are actual valid behaviours?[01:21:58] <ratchetfreak> if they aren't dynamic then the calls are ignored according to spec[01:22:11] <Ralith> the validation layers will never catch everything[01:23:27] <polarina> ratchetfreak, NVIDIA's implementation seems to respect values provided in a call to vkCmdSetViewport with pDynamicState set to NULL in the pipeline.[01:24:18] <polarina> Only if I bind the pipeline first though.[01:24:48] <baldurk> https://github.com/KhronosGroup/Vulkan-LoaderAndValidationLayers/issues/614[01:25:14] <baldurk> in particular from the spec "Modifying dynamic state that is not set as dynamic by the pipeline state object will lead to undefined results.[01:26:46] <polarina> baldurk, thanks.[01:28:01] <polarina> Glad to see it's at least a known issue in the validation layers (and that I wasn't loosing my sanity again)[01:28:43] <Ralith> you cannot reasonably expect the validation layers to catch every error[01:28:57] <Ralith> that's just not feasible[01:29:42] <baldurk> if missing errors are reported each time they're found, it will get better coverage over time[01:29:57] <baldurk> some errors are just complex to catch, but this isn't one of them[01:30:24] *** sam___ is now known as sam[01:32:20] <polarina> Glad to see it's at least a known issue in the validation layers (and that I wasn't loosing my sanity again)[01:32:25] <polarina> Oops.[01:32:35] <polarina> Sorry about that.[01:34:13] *** CaptainLex_ <CaptainLex_!~CaptainLe@97-127-15-84.mpls.qwest.net> has joined ##vulkan[01:37:52] *** Neomex <Neomex!~Neomex@net-37-117-24-187.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:39:59] *** CaptainLex_ <CaptainLex_!~CaptainLe@97-127-15-84.mpls.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:43:45] *** abstradelic <abstradelic!~abstradel@unaffiliated/abstradelic> has joined ##vulkan[01:45:52] *** mceier <mceier!~mceier@89-68-13-234.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[01:50:39] *** crankslider <crankslider!~slidercra@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/fifth/slidercrank> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:52:24] *** sunbearc22 <sunbearc22!~sunbear@175.156.83.186> has joined ##vulkan[02:03:11] *** Hunts <Hunts!~hunts@x55b336e6.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined ##vulkan[02:05:40] *** mceier <mceier!~mceier@89-68-13-234.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined ##vulkan[02:07:08] *** HuntsMan <HuntsMan!~hunts@x4dbc65d2.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:12:05] *** migi0027 <migi0027!~migi0027@5-198-122-203.static.kc.net.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:12:22] *** TechnoCrunch <TechnoCrunch!~TechnoCru@101.100.137.146> has joined ##vulkan[02:13:28] *** migi0027 <migi0027!~migi0027@5-198-122-203.static.kc.net.uk> has joined ##vulkan[02:35:11] *** jsgrant <jsgrant!~jsgrant@71-11-142-172.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined ##vulkan[02:49:56] *** herbmillerjr <herbmillerjr!~herb@c-76-120-173-141.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:52:10] *** ratchet_freak <ratchet_freak!~ratchetfr@ptr-82s3g7lkjlln1dzhxn8.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined ##vulkan[02:53:16] *** ratchet_freak <ratchet_freak!~ratchetfr@ptr-82s3g7lkjlln1dzhxn8.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:54:36] <polarina> Each time I call vkCmdBindDescriptorSets (once per frame -- I only submit one primary command list for each frame), I get this message in the debug callback: "Descriptor Set 0x19 bound on pipeline VK_PIPELINE_BIND_POINT_GRAPHICS"[02:54:43] *** ratchetfreak <ratchetfreak!~ratchetfr@ptr-82s3g7l9r42569r41f4.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[02:54:46] <polarina> This is the only vkCmdBind* command that I've used that produces debug output. Is there a reason why this command in particular is this spammy?[02:55:03] <Discoloda> what is the message flag?[02:56:00] <polarina> VK_DEBUG_REPORT_INFORMATION_BIT_EXT[02:56:48] <Ralith> I think we have those flags explicitly so that you can choose the level of spamminess to suit yourself[02:59:37] <polarina> I find the other information that I'm given with that flag useful though, such as the messages for Create and Destroy calls. I suppose I can filter out just that particular message.[03:11:39] <chrisf> polarina: we've been slowly removing a lot of the INFORMATION_BIT spam[03:24:02] *** spossiba <spossiba!~spossiba@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[03:24:30] *** spossiba <spossiba!~spossiba@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined ##vulkan[03:26:33] *** MrCooper <MrCooper!~daenzer@42-144-27-164.rev.home.ne.jp> has joined ##vulkan[03:35:18] *** ville <ville!~ville@178-55-30-210.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit:)[03:35:33] *** ville <ville!~ville@178-55-30-210.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined ##vulkan[03:45:05] *** amerlyq <amerlyq!~amerlyq@unaffiliated/amerlyq> has left ##vulkan[03:48:58] <Discoloda> chrisf: who should i ask about a potential false error?[03:56:03] * polarina submitted her first pull request to the loader and validation layers project. \o/[03:59:40] <Ralith> \o/[04:13:25] *** herbmillerjr <herbmillerjr!~herb@c-76-120-173-141.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined ##vulkan[04:23:10] *** GMpow3srV <GMpow3srV!~goedelmac@55d45e73.access.ecotel.net> has joined ##vulkan[04:23:30] *** gamester <gamester!~gamester@84.120.143.112.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:26:31] *** GMpow2srV <GMpow2srV!~goedelmac@55d4539e.access.ecotel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[04:54:59] *** jsgrant <jsgrant!~jsgrant@71-11-142-172.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:24:04] *** jsgrant <jsgrant!~jsgrant@71-11-142-172.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined ##vulkan[05:28:43] *** ravior <ravior!~crapitea@5-13-254-63.residential.rdsnet.ro> has joined ##vulkan[05:32:23] *** BearishMushroom <BearishMushroom!~BearishMu@90-231-174-194-no159.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:35:34] *** migi0027 <migi0027!~migi0027@5-198-122-203.static.kc.net.uk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:37:57] *** plasticle <plasticle!~plasticle@cpe-107-15-169-8.nc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:42:16] *** davr0s <davr0s!~textual@host86-162-141-50.range86-162.btcentralplus.com> has joined ##vulkan[06:15:05] *** crankslider <crankslider!~slidercra@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/fifth/slidercrank> has joined ##vulkan[06:17:35] <polarina> Is anyone familiar with the glslang codebase? I'm hunting down a memory leak. The destructor for a TIntermAggregate allocated in TIntermediate::growAggregate[1] isn't being called, leaking its pragmaTable. I'm unsure what course of actions I have to remedy this leak. Guidance welcome, please![06:17:38] <polarina> [1] https://github.com/KhronosGroup/glslang/blob/master/glslang/MachineIndependent/Intermediate.cpp#L1377[06:29:43] *** crankslider <crankslider!~slidercra@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/fifth/slidercrank> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:29:43] *** tambre <tambre!~tambre@4c8b-a000-dfc8-b11f-0e80-8a31-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined ##vulkan[06:30:53] *** sunbearc22 <sunbearc22!~sunbear@175.156.83.186> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[06:35:32] *** rupertsteel <rupertsteel!~rupertste@2407:7000:9c04:b504:4990:564d:a829:d4f0> has joined ##vulkan[06:40:57] *** jsgrant <jsgrant!~jsgrant@71-11-142-172.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:44:25] <polarina> Ok. I figured this out. Looks like all nodes are allocated from a memory pool, and all of the pool's memory is freed in one go when the AST is no longer needed. TIntermNode uses POOL_ALLOCATOR_NEW_DELETE[1] to achieve this. The overload for the delete operator does not call the class' destructor, which TIntermAggregate implements to delete pragmaTable.[06:44:28] <polarina> [1] https://github.com/KhronosGroup/glslang/blob/master/glslang/Include/Common.h#L104[06:45:39] <polarina> I should be able to easily fix this from here. :)[07:03:50] *** Guest80280 <Guest80280!~john@host86-147-127-48.range86-147.btcentralplus.com> has joined ##vulkan[07:24:03] <polarina> Here's my patch if anyone's interested: https://github.com/KhronosGroup/glslang/pull/916[07:26:25] *** sla_ro|master <sla_ro|master!~sla.ro@95.76.45.217> has joined ##vulkan[07:35:42] *** rlarionov <rlarionov!~rlarionov@68-202-221-190.res.bhn.net> has joined ##vulkan[07:47:48] *** rlarionov <rlarionov!~rlarionov@68-202-221-190.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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