June 2, 2017 
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So far I get a single value like 16384. What does this value mean? Is it indicating the number of pixel of the width or height or both?[04:27:05] *** BearishMushroom <BearishMushroom!~BearishMu@90-231-174-194-no159.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:28:04] <Ralith> as the quoted text says, neither width nor height may be greater than that value.[04:31:55] *** slime <slime!~slime73@blk-215-81-93.eastlink.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:33:01] *** slime <slime!~slime73@blk-215-81-93.eastlink.ca> has joined ##vulkan[04:37:54] <sunbearc22> @Ralith So you mean it is the limit of both the image width and height? I am confuse because Spec write width or height and not both.[04:44:07] *** GMpow3srV <GMpow3srV!~goedelmac@55d4561b.access.ecotel.net> has joined ##vulkan[04:47:28] *** GMpow5srV <GMpow5srV!~goedelmac@55d41a73.access.ecotel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:49:14] *** MrCooper <MrCooper!~daenzer@s241.143.131.210.fls.vectant.ne.jp> has joined ##vulkan[05:03:43] *** crankslider <crankslider!~slidercra@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/fifth/slidercrank> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:07:44] *** migi0027 <migi0027!~migi0027@5-198-122-203.static.kc.net.uk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:28:20] *** ravior <ravior!~crapitea@5-13-254-63.residential.rdsnet.ro> has joined ##vulkan[05:37:47] *** MrCooper <MrCooper!~daenzer@s241.143.131.210.fls.vectant.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:45:32] *** jo90 <jo90!~John90@111.92.59.27> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:49:42] *** ginmanII <ginmanII!~ginmanIV@104.163.184.183> has joined ##vulkan[05:51:19] <ginmanII> hi everyone ![06:06:44] *** rlarionov <rlarionov!~rlarionov@68-202-221-190.res.bhn.net> has joined ##vulkan[06:08:22] *** tambre <tambre!~tambre@03e8-0286-2b95-9930-0e80-8a31-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined ##vulkan[06:08:52] *** sunbearc22 <sunbearc22!~sunbear@175.156.83.186> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[06:16:56] *** rlarionov <rlarionov!~rlarionov@68-202-221-190.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…)[11:05:30] *** rupertsteel <rupertsteel!~rupertste@2407:7000:9c04:b566:4967:936a:95c1:cd90> has joined ##vulkan[11:06:03] *** davr0s <davr0s!~textual@host86-162-141-50.range86-162.btcentralplus.com> has joined ##vulkan[11:07:52] <sunbearc22> I found that my gpu has 2 memoryHeapCount.[11:08:25] <sunbearc22> -0, size: 6442450944, flags: 1[11:08:26] <sunbearc22> -1, size: 25186016256, flags: 0[11:09:12] <tomaka> the GPU RAM and the CPU RAM most likely[11:09:29] <sunbearc22> Is the total heapMemory size the sum of both or just 6442450944? I know flags: 1 means VK_MEMORY_HEAP_DEVICE_LOCAL_BIT.[11:14:34] <sunbearc22> @tomaka The output was for a specific physical device. In this case, is what you say still true?[11:14:42] <sunbearc22> What does flags = 0 means. Does this mean it is unconfigured and I can configure it to 1 or 2?[11:14:57] <tomaka> yes that's still true[11:15:26] <tomaka> the physical device can read/write from/to your CPU RAM, so vulkan exposes it[11:18:17] <sunbearc22> Thanks. So flags=0 means memory in CPU RAM that GPU can read/write to.[11:21:06] <tomaka> that's not guaranteed though, it's just an interpretation[11:27:11] *** TSS_ <TSS_!~TSS@86.121.76.20> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:30:16] *** TSS_ <TSS_!~TSS@2a02:2f0a:4020:1061:d250:99ff:fe83:4a0a> has joined ##vulkan[11:42:43] *** crankslider <crankslider!~slidercra@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/fifth/slidercrank> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:43:04] *** TSS_ <TSS_!~TSS@2a02:2f0a:4020:1061:d250:99ff:fe83:4a0a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:48:46] *** TSS_ <TSS_!~TSS@86.121.76.20> has joined ##vulkan[12:12:45] *** slidercrank <slidercrank!~slidercra@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/fifth/slidercrank> has joined ##vulkan[12:30:41] *** jkilpatr <jkilpatr!~jkilpatr@2602:30a:c7da:b600:845f:2921:2881:c7ba> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[12:36:49] *** Neomex <Neomex!~Neomex@net-37-117-24-187.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined ##vulkan[12:39:28] *** CaptainLex <CaptainLex!~CaptainLe@67-220-31-207.fttp.usinternet.com> has joined ##vulkan[12:53:21] *** jkilpatr <jkilpatr!jkilpatr@nat/redhat/x-mojnxnnqvuhtkrog> has joined ##vulkan[12:54:34] *** lenstr <lenstr!~lenstr@unaffiliated/lenstr> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[13:00:41] *** john <john!~john@host86-147-127-48.range86-147.btcentralplus.com> has joined ##vulkan[13:01:05] *** john is now known as Guest26727[13:01:43] *** Guest60910 <Guest60910!~john@host86-147-127-48.range86-147.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:16:58] *** navidr <navidr!uid112413@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-piasrkegofsmzjfc> has joined ##vulkan[13:26:59] *** David3k <David3k!~David3k@130.105.228.161> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[13:29:35] *** sunbearc22 <sunbearc22!~sunbear@175.156.83.186> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[13:42:59] *** ratchetfreak <ratchetfreak!~ratchetfr@ptr-82s3g7lkjlln1dzhxn8.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined ##vulkan[13:44:42] *** TechnoCrunch <TechnoCrunch!~TechnoCru@101.100.137.146> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:57:52] *** sla_ro|master <sla_ro|master!~sla.ro@95.76.45.217> has quit IRC ()[14:06:35] *** realitix <realitix!~realitix@92.103.166.6> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:18:19] *** ratchetfreak <ratchetfreak!~ratchetfr@ptr-82s3g7lkjlln1dzhxn8.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:18:48] *** ratchetfreak <ratchetfreak!~ratchetfr@ptr-82s3g7lkjlln1dzhxn8.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined ##vulkan[14:20:33] *** BearishMushroom <BearishMushroom!~BearishMu@90-231-174-194-no159.tbcn.telia.com> has joined ##vulkan[14:37:26] *** spara <spara!~spara@ARennes-258-1-201-115.w2-11.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined ##vulkan[14:40:44] *** sla_ro|master <sla_ro|master!~sla.ro@95.76.45.217> has joined ##vulkan[14:44:22] *** David3k <David3k!~David3k@130.105.228.161> has joined ##vulkan[14:57:28] *** snyp <snyp!~Snyp@103.56.236.197> has joined ##vulkan[14:59:11] <snyp> Getting started with vulkan. Tryint to use vulkan.hpp bindings. Seems there is error in the hpp file? http://paste.debian.net/960786/[14:59:18] *** realitix <realitix!~realitix@92.103.166.6> has joined ##vulkan[15:00:02] <snyp> http://paste.debian.net/960807/ <-- Here is that function in the header file.[15:01:51] <fazias> It's fixed in the github version of that at least.[15:02:06] <fazias> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Hpp/master/vulkan/vulkan.hpp[15:02:28] <snyp> oh i see[15:02:37] <fazias> also the function is slightly renamed to conform latest spec, It's "getSurfaceCapabilities2EXT"[15:03:04] <snyp> i'm using the distro provided header. ok i will use that one for now.[15:03:33] <fazias> You might have to generate a compliant hpp for your version as the github might have too new.[15:04:13] <snyp> oh[15:04:15] <fazias> or well, that exact header wouldn't work as its not "KHR" anymore which it is in your version[15:04:49] <snyp> KHR are for what? currently an extension, not in core api, something like that?[15:04:51] <fazias> they generate that vulkan.hpp using the generator in that Vulkan-Hpp repository[15:05:35] <fazias> Not completely sure, but "not in core api" is true.[15:06:06] <snyp> I see[15:06:37] <fazias> khr might be that its "khronos extension". But then there is KHX which seems to be "Khronos experimental"[15:06:52] *** tambre <tambre!~tambre@03e8-0286-2b95-9930-0e80-8a31-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:06:57] <fazias> and vendor specifics of those also exit NVX and amd probably had something of their own also.[15:07:02] <ratchetfreak> sounds about right[15:07:06] <fazias> not sure what EXT is :)[15:07:21] <ratchetfreak> extension supported by multiple IHV[15:07:49] *** tambre <tambre!~tambre@3897-bf3e-44b0-f9b6-0e80-8a31-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined ##vulkan[15:07:51] <ratchetfreak> where no one IHV is claiming sole ownership[15:36:08] <snyp> Which vk.xml do I use to generate the hpp? The one in github, or is there one supposed to be in distro packages? Getting this error:[15:36:11] <snyp> static_assert( VK_HEADER_VERSION == 48 , "Wrong VK_HEADER_VERSION!" );[15:40:12] <fazias> probably the one that distro has... or finding the version which the distro uses and get that version from github.[15:40:24] <fazias> incase they didn't bother to include it[15:41:00] <snyp> ah it's in vulkan-headers package itself[15:41:16] <snyp> (thought it would be in vulkan-html-docs for some reason)[15:43:12] <snyp> fazias: http://paste.debian.net/960903/ <-- The generator crashes[15:43:28] <fazias> uh oh[15:43:29] <fazias> :D[15:43:44] <snyp> it does begin writing a vulkan.hpp[15:43:46] <snyp> hmm[15:44:25] <fazias> maybe easiest to just manually fix the original header that came with distropackage? It seemed to be missing just one line declaring the variable used for the function[15:45:39] <fazias> though I suggested the generator as it might have more of those same errors. :P difficult now that it didn't work.[15:46:05] <fazias> I'm on windows so I can just download the latest package so no need to fiddle with older versions.[15:49:19] *** rupertsteel <rupertsteel!~rupertste@2407:7000:9c04:b566:4967:936a:95c1:cd90> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:49:34] <snyp> ok i will fix it manually then.[15:53:20] <snyp> *sigh* surfaceCapabilitiesKHR’ was not declared in this scope[15:53:49] <snyp> i will just use the C api[15:56:57] <snyp> compiles at least. hehe[15:57:38] *** snyp <snyp!~Snyp@103.56.236.197> has quit IRC (Quit: "bbl")[15:58:56] *** LurchMan <LurchMan!~LurchMan@ny01-p01-10ge-xe-2-3-0-1.turnkeyinternet.net> has joined ##vulkan[16:00:57] *** migi0027 <migi0027!~migi0027@5-198-122-203.static.kc.net.uk> has joined ##vulkan[16:02:46] *** opencw <opencw!~opencw@185.66.193.70> has quit IRC (Quit: Quantumcommunicationsarray closed)[16:03:05] *** rlarionov <rlarionov!~rlarionov@node41.seg212.ucf.edu> has joined ##vulkan[16:05:39] *** HuntsMan <HuntsMan!~hunts@ricasa01.informatik.uni-bremen.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[16:10:34] *** rlarionov <rlarionov!~rlarionov@node41.seg212.ucf.edu> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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