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[11:25:55] <tfennelly> kcbabo: lol... you totally screwed up from jet lag?
[11:27:43] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  hey man
[11:28:00] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I'm a bit messed up
[11:28:10] <tfennelly> kcbabo: you're back home now, right?
[11:28:11] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  flights were absolutely brutal
[11:28:15] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  yep, back home
[11:28:30] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  my wife took off for a work trip 36 hours after I got back
[11:28:34] <tfennelly> kcbabo: good stuff... when did you get back?
[11:28:45] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  Friday night
[11:28:49] <tfennelly> kcbabo: oh fuck
[11:29:12] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  yeah, both weekends before that were full of travel
[11:29:35] <tfennelly> kcbabo: did you get delayed on the way back?
[11:29:36] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  flight to Japan was a trip - it was daytime for like 24 hours straight :-)
[11:29:47] <tfennelly> kcbabo: lol
[11:29:49] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  no delays, which I'm really happy about
[11:29:57] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  one delay would have blown up the entire schedule
[11:30:07] <tfennelly> kcbabo: oh you'd cross the date line too going that way
[11:30:12] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  hey - here's a tip to save you some stress at the airport check-in
[11:30:20] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  you need a visa to visit Australia
[11:30:27] <tfennelly> kcbabo: lol
[11:30:35] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  which was news to me 1 hour before my flight took off in Osaka
[11:30:36] <tfennelly> kcbabo: oh no
[11:30:49] <tfennelly> kcbabo: lol... sorry for laughing
[11:30:55] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  nah, it's funny
[11:31:13] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  had to jump on an Internet kiosk in the airport to apply for an emergency visa
[11:31:20] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  AUS govt has that all squared away
[11:31:23] <tfennelly> kcbabo: so how did you sort that out?
[11:31:35] <tfennelly> kcbabo: ah OK
[11:31:39] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  problem was that I was stuck using a Korean-only kiosk at first
[11:31:47] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  wasted 10 minutes on that
[11:31:48] <tfennelly> kcbabo: rofl
[11:31:59] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  then got to one that supported English and squared things away
[11:32:04] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I'd love to have seen that
[11:32:26] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I bet the language out of you was choice
[11:32:35] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  my stress meter went from 0 to 100 in about 60 seconds
[11:32:42] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  absolutely
[11:33:13] <tfennelly> kcbabo: ah that's brilliant
[11:33:22] <tfennelly> kcbabo: there are tears in my eyes
[11:33:41] <tfennelly> kcbabo: from laughing
[11:33:58] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  the exchange with the ticket agent was kinda funny
[11:34:14] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  she's sorting through all my ticketing stuff and then starts searching through the papers
[11:34:27] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  and she's like "you don't have an Australian visa here"
[11:34:37] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  and I'm like "do I need one of those?"
[11:35:00] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  what screwed me was the fact that I've been to New Zealand and they don't require a visa
[11:35:17] <tfennelly> kcbabo: ah
[11:35:21] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  so I figured it was all the same down under
[11:35:50] <tfennelly> kcbabo: right... everywhere outside the US should be the same
[11:35:54] <tfennelly> kcbabo: ;)
[11:36:19] <tfennelly> kcbabo: so are the Aussies still crying about Ireland beating them in the Rugby?
[11:36:40] <tfennelly> kcbabo: that was so funny... they were so fucking cock sure of themselves lol
[11:37:43] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  Noel was having a good laugh at that one
[11:37:56] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I bet
[11:38:00] <tfennelly> kcbabo: we all were
[11:38:33] <tfennelly> kcbabo: the Aussies thought they just had to turn up coz Irelands form had been brutally bad in the games before
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[15:00:04] <tfennelly> magesh1: yt megesh?
[15:00:19] <tfennelly> magesh even
[15:00:47] <tfennelly> magesh1: https://github.com/tfennelly/jboss-switchyard-release/tree/SWITCHYARD-473-452/jboss-as7
[15:01:01] <tfennelly> magesh1: that's your stuff merged with my stuff
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[15:23:16] <magesh> tfennelly: Hi Tom
[15:23:28] <tfennelly> magesh: hey man
[15:23:31] <magesh> tfennelly: That is cool, I will have a look
[15:23:38] <tfennelly> magesh: okidoki
[15:23:49] <magesh> tfennelly: Did Keith mention anything about our love for maven ;)
[15:24:05] <tfennelly> magesh: I think he shares the same love ;)
[15:24:16] <tfennelly> magesh: it's a love triangle
[15:24:20] <magesh> tfennelly: ROFL
[15:24:23] <tfennelly> magesh: or square... whichever
[15:24:30] <tfennelly> magesh: hehehe
[15:25:14] <magesh> tfennelly: I needed to add version properties like smooksetc., to parent. Did you think about that?
[15:26:08] <tfennelly> magesh: I thought about it, but no more than that... I'm thinking just get the basic structure right first and then centralize al that version info
[15:26:29] <tfennelly> magesh: maybe like we were saying the other day... in a "versions" module or something
[15:26:48] <tfennelly> magesh: manage all the dependencies and versions in one place
[15:27:03] <magesh> tfennelly: +1, lets get this sorted out with Keith on the call
[15:27:04] <tfennelly> magesh: that's still a bit of a mess
[15:27:18] <tfennelly> magesh: sure
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[16:03:02] <magesh> tfennelly: ping
[16:03:12] <kcbabo> rcernich:  you around?
[16:03:23] <tfennelly> magesh, kcbabo: on the way
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[16:13:20] <dbevenius> kcbabo: This is the AS7 User forum thread I was taking about: http://community.jboss.org/thread/172366?tstart=90
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[16:49:35] <kcbabo> rcernich:  hey rob - would 2pm ET work for you?
[16:49:43] <rcernich> sure
[16:50:00] <kcbabo> cool, thanks
[16:50:04] <kcbabo> rcernich:  I'll send an invite :-)
[16:50:12] <rcernich> kcbabo: ok
[16:50:23] <kcbabo> rcernich:  the eclipse plugin was very popular in the workshop
[16:50:31] <rcernich> kcbabo: :)
[16:50:41] <kcbabo> rcernich:  big surprise that it was more popular than using "mvn install" from the command-line
[16:50:49] <rcernich> kcbabo: it's still pretty much a prototype at this point
[16:51:12] <rcernich> kcbabo: the m2e plugin?
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[17:06:36] <igarashitm> tfennelly: sorry.. I must have missed something in my commit.. that seems to be one I've already fixed.. I don't know why test was passed in my hand..
[17:09:42] <kcbabo> git status
[17:09:51] <kcbabo> ^ hehe ? wrong window
[17:10:08] <kcbabo> rcernich:  I pushed all three of your pull requests in tools
[17:10:15] <kcbabo> rcernich:  all built fine on fedora
[17:10:38] <rcernich> kcbabo: i figured.  they build fine on rhel:)
[17:10:47] <rcernich> kcbabo: i need to address the repository issue
[17:10:58] <rcernich> kcbabo: in the m2e tests
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[17:21:48] <tfennelly> kcbabo: another thing I did in those POMs was remove the <groupId> and <version> where they were the same as that of the parent pom
[17:22:42] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  ah good ? fewer warnings in my IDE now :-)
[17:22:47] <tfennelly> kcbabo: no need for <version>${parent.version}</version>
[17:23:09] <tfennelly> kcbabo: yeah... my top level build wouldn't work because of those
[17:23:27] <tfennelly> kcbabo: as in... that top level pom I have for building everything
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[18:51:15] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: hey Dave
[18:51:21] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: yt?
[18:51:22] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: Hey Tom
[18:51:44] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: quick one for you... I'd quess it's just an oversight, but will ask anyway...
[18:51:53] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: uh-oh...
[18:51:56] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: there are 2 mvel2 modules
[18:52:09] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: defined for as7
[18:52:20] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: one sec and I'll get you a link and you can see what I mean
[18:53:08] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: org/mvel/mvel2 and org/mvel2, right?
[18:53:23] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: right
[18:53:32] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: so it's intentional?
[18:54:13] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: one sec...
[18:54:23] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: https://github.com/tfennelly/jboss-switchyard-release/tree/SWITCHYARD-473-452/jboss-as7/modules/src/main/resources/modules
[18:54:25] <tfennelly> errantepiphany:
[18:54:46] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: https://github.com/tfennelly/jboss-switchyard-release/tree/SWITCHYARD-473-452/jboss-as7/modules/src/main/resources/components/bpm/resources/org
[18:55:08] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: in both of those you can see there's an mvel module
[18:55:27] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: they do have different names though
[18:55:46] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: but I was wondering if they were both required or was it just accidental duplications
[18:57:03] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: I know that all the drools and jbpm stuff use org/mvel/mvel2 - not org/mvel2
[18:57:24] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: okidoki... hey, I'll just leave it for now
[18:57:52] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: Lemme grep around and see who, if anyone, uses org/mvel2...
[18:57:56] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: just thought I'd ask in case there was an obvious duplication that we caould remove
[18:58:06] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: we might be able to remove org/mvel2
[18:58:08] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: okidoki... thanks
[18:58:50] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: I'm going to centralize all those modules that were defined as part of bpm (hibernate etc)
[18:59:20] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: org/milyn/main/module.xml is the only one that depends on org/mvel2
[18:59:30] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: everything else depends on org/mvel/mvel2
[18:59:50] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: so smooks is using an older version of mvel2?
[19:00:08] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: it appears so.  You might want to ask our team smooks guy.  Oh wait... ;)
[19:00:24] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: lol good idea
[19:00:48] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: the resource root for that module is milyn-smooks-all-1.5-SNAPSHOT.jar
[19:01:12] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: okidoki thanks
[19:01:16] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: np
[19:01:20] <tfennelly> I'll just leave it as is for now I think
[19:01:34] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: ^^
[19:02:16] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: okay. but my gut says you can probably just change the smooks dependency to org/mvel/mvel2. I don't think there were mvel api changes, probably just a packaging updated.
[19:02:29] <errantepiphany> s/updated/update/
[19:03:03] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: yeah... might be no API changes, but might be functional/behavioral changes
[19:03:22] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: yeah, that's the danger. You could ping Mike Brock.
[19:03:50] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: for sure
[19:04:20] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: really need to get that 1.5 release sorted out
[19:04:36] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: just don't seem to have any time these days to work on that stuff
[19:05:02] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: better busy than jobless. ;)
[19:05:10] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: maybe kcbabo will donate some switchyard time to getting it done
[19:05:20] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: too true :)
[19:05:21] <errantepiphany> haha
[19:47:05] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I definitely want a non-SNAPSHOT release of Smooks, so let me know what it takes
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[20:00:23] <tfennelly> kcbabo: back
[20:01:44] <tfennelly> kcbabo: there are a few bugs in there that I wanted to fix as part of 1.5... these were found by people in the community, but would effect switchyard users too if they used the functionality in question
[20:02:11] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I'll have a look and get an accurate figure, but ball-park 2 days'ish
[20:04:06] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  works for me
[20:06:25] <tfennelly> kcbabo: okidoki
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