September 8, 2011  
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[11:10:56] <magesh> tfennelly: Tom you up?
[11:14:56] <tfennelly> magesh: hey magesh
[11:15:09] <tfennelly> magesh: I wasn't up at 4am though
[11:16:59] <magesh> tfennelly: :)
[11:17:28] <magesh> tfennelly: Do the test kit have anything to replace _domain.registerService in tests?
[11:18:11] <tfennelly> magesh: it has some methods there for registering services.... what do you mean by "replace"?
[11:18:38] <tfennelly> magesh: like... unregister one service and register another with the same name?
[11:18:41] <magesh> tfennelly: some annotation or something like that we use for Invoker rather than using domain
[11:19:29] <magesh> tfennelly: Since the domain is injected by Runner, thought it would be cool to not use that method to register services
[11:19:41] <tfennelly> magesh: ay right.... so not replacing anything as such
[11:19:58] <tfennelly> magesh: there's nothing there for that yet
[11:20:15] <magesh> tfennelly: okay no problems
[11:20:20] <tfennelly> magesh: one possible gotcha might be creating the exchange handler
[11:20:42] <magesh> tfennelly: That will be passed as a parameter perhaps to the annotation?
[11:21:04] <tfennelly> magesh: right... but the only thing you could pass is the handler runtime class
[11:21:18] <tfennelly> magesh: you can't interact with the creation process in any way
[11:21:40] <tfennelly> magesh: also... you've no ref to the handler then after... for making assertions etc
[11:21:52] <tfennelly> magesh: but it ould work for other use cases for sure
[11:22:18] <magesh> tfennelly: Okay, another question. Can I make the Invoker's static in my test? I want to reuse them rather than creating them for every test method
[11:23:33] <tfennelly> magesh: not at the moment... all that stuff is created and destroyed for each test method
[11:23:46] <magesh> tfennelly: Okay thanks
[11:23:57] <tfennelly> magesh: which is a good thing imo
[11:24:12] <magesh> tfennelly: :)
[11:24:43] <tfennelly> magesh: clean tests... no chance of 1 test polluting the env of another
[11:25:22] <tfennelly> magesh: so... do you have a measure of the overhead it is adding?
[11:26:01] <magesh> tfennelly: Not overhead, annoying problem of socket creation and destruction for SOAP tests in some platforms ;)
[11:27:02] <tfennelly> magesh: what's happening ;)
[11:29:05] <magesh> tfennelly: The WS seem to have not started up fast enough when the test runs, the port is reused for every test method.
[11:34:02] <tfennelly> magesh: we sure making things static in test methods will solve that?
[11:34:37] <tfennelly> magesh: specifically... making the invokers static... not sure how that would help
[11:35:00] <tfennelly> magesh: since it's the other end of the exchange that's in dificulty, no?
[11:35:52] <tfennelly> magesh: maybe there's a way of testing that the webservice is up and running?
[11:35:56] <magesh> tfennelly: I was thinking to use BeforeClass and AfterClass to create the services, so they are created only once
[11:36:21] <tfennelly> magesh: the soap binding?
[11:36:33] <magesh> tfennelly: Trying to see in that angle. Anyway don't worry it is a rare instance that happens, almost never consistently reproduceable
[11:36:38] <magesh> tfennelly: Yes
[11:37:03] <tfennelly> magesh: sure... would be nice to fix it though ... I know how annoying things like that can be
[11:38:33] <tfennelly> magesh: so... maybe there's something we could put into the test kit that checks and makes sure "things" (like the soap gateway) are up and running fully before executing the tests
[11:39:21] <magesh> tfennelly: yeah, let me see if that method works first
[11:39:40] <tfennelly> magesh: yeah... I think that would be better
[11:40:01] <tfennelly> magesh: going down the "statics" route always leads to a world of pain
[11:40:28] <tfennelly> magesh: like with JBss ESB... tests interfering with each other, polluting each others env etc
[11:41:05] <magesh> tfennelly: true, anyway we are safe today as static stuff will not work :)
[11:41:37] <tfennelly> magesh: yeah... by design ;)
[11:41:51] <tfennelly> magesh: (imo) in general, statics are great for stateless things.. a disaster for stateful things
[11:42:07] <tfennelly> magesh: especially in tests
[11:42:28] <magesh> tfennelly: okay
[11:43:17] <tfennelly> magesh: I can help with that stuff if you want... just ping me
[11:43:37] <magesh> tfennelly: sure thanks
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[14:10:55] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I assume I can close SWITCHYARD-440?  The weld logging issue
[14:11:02] <tfennelly> kcbabo: sl4j
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[15:14:09] <magesh> kcbabo: ping
[15:23:13] <kcbabo> magesh:  hey magesh
[15:23:37] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  yeah, you can close it ? can you note the logging config in the workaround section
[15:23:43] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  or in a comment ? whichever
[15:23:52] <magesh> kcbabo, tfennelly: Don't you think it would be fair to catch that exception in our component and log it appropriately?
[15:27:39] <magesh> kcbabo: On chat with Kev, need to discuss about Configuration. Will ping you shortly
[15:30:06] <kcbabo> magesh:  we can't catch that exception because it's not in our code
[15:34:46] <magesh> kcbabo: At least ask them to log it as ERROR, perhaps?
[15:34:52] <magesh> kcbabo: Back, sorry
[15:42:50] <magesh> kcbabo: You there?
[15:43:10] <kcbabo> magesh:  yep
[15:43:19] <kcbabo> magesh:  you had pinged me :-)
[15:43:52] <magesh> kcbabo: So that suggestion apart about the weld issue, I needed some kind of vision that you had in mid for Componnet interface
[15:44:00] <magesh> (mind)
[15:44:07] <magesh> (Component)
[15:44:19] <magesh> kcbabo: Sorry of the spelling mistakes :)
[15:46:56] <kcbabo> magesh:  can you elaborate on what you mean by 'vision' ?
[15:47:18] <kcbabo> magesh:  the interface is in that thread and I also provided a brief description on where it would be created
[15:49:51] <magesh> kcbabo: I had only a brief overview of that thread and it is not completely clear to me how the implementation of that would work? Configuration seem to be a basic wrapper of everything element, sub-element, attribute etc., Is there something that I am missing. I could have lost my mind somehwhere on the road :-D
[15:50:51] <kcbabo> magesh:  if it's not immediately apparent based on what's there (which is quite understandable), maybe it would be best for me to take my code a bit further
[15:51:14] <kcbabo> magesh:  that would provide a bit better detail and it might be clearer on how it would map to the AS7 configuration
[15:51:41] <kcbabo> magesh:  unfortunately, I have to be heads down on my workshop prep today so I can't spend time on it right now
[15:53:12] <magesh> kcbabo: Hey don't bother. I will look at it further more. I was thinking you had some quick responses. If you have to write code then let us keep it aside. I will concentrate of something else if I am stuck
[15:54:00] <magesh> kcbabo: Good luck on your workshop presso and travel
[15:54:03] <kcbabo> magesh:  yeah, really sorry
[15:54:19] <kcbabo> magesh:  loads of stuff to do here still and clock is ticking down ;-)
[15:54:27] <kcbabo> magesh:  thanks for that
[15:55:06] <magesh> kcbabo: You will pull it through and get us more followings
[15:55:34] <magesh> kcbabo: cheers!
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[16:09:07] <aamonten> kcbabo: hi
[16:09:16] <kcbabo> aamonten:  hey alejandro
[16:09:21] <kcbabo> aamonten:  congrats on the new gig
[16:09:33] <aamonten> kcbabo: long time..
[16:09:40] <kcbabo> aamonten:  indeed
[16:09:40] <aamonten> kcbabo: thanks dude..
[16:10:10] <aamonten> kcbabo: sorry to be away without notice you
[16:10:31] <aamonten> aamonten: but the new job took all my time
[16:11:13] <aamonten> kcbabo: congrats with release 0.2
[16:11:18] <kcbabo> aamonten:  thanks very much
[16:11:42] <aamonten> kcbabo: I just deployed it to openshift http://swyd-amontenegro.rhcloud.com/switchyard
[16:12:23] <aamonten> kcbabo: any has done this? else I will write a small tutorial
[16:13:56] <kcbabo> aamonten:  ha!  nice
[16:14:31] <kcbabo> aamonten:  magesh has actually been working on creating a completely integrated setup for AS7 and SwitchYard on OpenShift
[16:14:44] <kcbabo> aamonten:  so you will see a big splash from us on this front very soon
[16:14:54] <aamonten> aamonten: ok
[16:15:20] <aamonten> aamonten: so I will let magesh do the writings :)}
[16:15:39] <kcbabo> aamonten:  out of curiosity, did you update the module configuration in your .openshift to get that deployed?
[16:15:50] <kcbabo> aamonten:  and the standalone.xml template in there as well
[16:16:20] <aamonten> kcbabo: exactly, this week openshift released the option to add new modules
[16:17:31] <aamonten> kcbabo: actually I didnt do any changes on standalone.xml, maybe Im missing something .. I will check
[16:17:38] <magesh> kcbabo, aamonten: nice :)
[16:18:54] <magesh> aamonten: Did you deploy any switchyard app, like the demos?
[16:19:27] <aamonten> magesh: not yet, will give it a try..
[16:19:31] <magesh> aamonten: The admin console is just a simple web app, not much on it
[16:19:59] <aamonten> magesh: you are right was to fast to publish it :P
[16:20:15] <magesh> aamonten: Good luck, but enjoy the cloud :)
[16:20:49] <aamonten> magesh: sure I will
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[22:19:17] <igarashitm> kcbabo, tfennelly: hi~ I've fixed my bug sorry, push it please when you like...
[22:19:33] <igarashitm> kcbabo, tfennelly: https://github.com/jboss-switchyard/components/pull/225
[22:21:00] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  for sure ? sorry for the lag, I've been working like mad on this workshop stuff
[22:21:35] <igarashitm> kcbabo: np
[22:22:28] <igarashitm> kcbabo: I want to join your session in Japan.. unfortunately I can't :)
[22:24:21] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  :-) kinda funny how that worked ou
[22:24:25] <kcbabo> out
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