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[00:01:02] <bfitzpat> awesome
[00:01:18] <bfitzpat> M3's not quite hatched yet, but trunk updates should get you there
[00:01:53] <bfitzpat> best of luck with the Switchyard demo!
[00:03:04] <babo> bfitzpat:  thanks ... it's still a bit off, but they seem to need this stuff many weeks ahead of time
[00:03:20] <babo> bfitzpat:  copying bits to a drive is obviously more complicated than I thought
[00:04:20] <bfitzpat> :D
[00:04:46] <bfitzpat> babo - these are hand-crafted, painstakingly placed bits on the finest USB sticks...
[00:05:45] <babo> bfitzpat:  yeah, apparently that's what I missed ;-)
[00:05:58] <babo> gotta run ... back in an hour
[00:06:28] <bfitzpat> l8r
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[01:56:39] <GitHub185> [core] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/3M35uw
[01:56:39] <GitHub185> [core/master] SWITCHYARD-423: merged config is not schema valid - David Ward
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[01:58:04] <GitHub16> [components] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/P-2ElA
[01:58:04] <GitHub16> [components/master] SWITCHYARD-423: merged config is not schema valid - David Ward
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[01:58:21] <GitHub41> [quickstarts] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/g5XNiw
[01:58:21] <GitHub41> [quickstarts/master] SWITCHYARD-423: merged config is not schema valid - David Ward
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[02:29:37] <GitHub86> [release] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/cz4MQQ
[02:29:37] <GitHub86> [release/master] Corrected quickstart dependencies in AS6 and AS7 pom so that release can be built stand-alone - Keith Babo
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[02:43:51] <antollinim> kcbabo: hi Keith, I have just rebased and core does not compile now. It says core/transform/src/test/java/org/switchyard/transform/internal/json/User.java:[22,21] package org.mvel2.util does not exist
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[03:05:11] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  something is up with your env
[03:05:19] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  release build just passed
[03:05:34] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  and I just ran a clean build with an empty maven repo
[03:08:58] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: I deleted my repo but still nothing
[03:09:34] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: but did you try core?
[03:09:49] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  yes, that's what you said was failing, right?
[03:09:55] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: yes, core
[03:10:15] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  sorry, when I said release build above I meant hudson build (of core)
[03:10:16] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: but you said release
[03:10:24] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: ah, ok :)
[03:11:26] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: I guess I need something in my settings.xml this thing must not be in the repo I am using: org.mvel2.util
[03:11:41] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  I ran with no settings.xml
[03:11:51] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  it's not like that was just added, btw
[03:12:06] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: mmm.. weird
[03:12:18] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: I'll try with no setttings.xml
[03:12:21] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  is this in eclipse or on the command-line?
[03:12:54] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: command line
[03:13:25] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  when you said you "deleted your repo" above
[03:13:31] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  the whole thing?  or just org/switchyard ?
[03:13:32] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: I removed settings but failed again. I am doing: mvn -U clean install
[03:14:00] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: org/switchyard only
[03:14:24] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  that artifact is not in org/switchyard
[03:14:49] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  try deleting org/mvel and running again
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[03:16:16] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: just removed it, fails also
[03:18:14] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: I removed ~/.m2/org, will take some time now to know of this works
[03:19:19] <kcbabo> rcernich:  is core building for you after you pull the latest?
[03:19:31] <rcernich> kcbabo: i haven't pulled today
[03:19:41] <kcbabo> rcernich:  ok
[03:19:53] <rcernich> kcbabo: i got sidetracked looking at xml validation (don't ask why)
[03:20:02] <kcbabo> rcernich:  ok ;-)
[03:20:24] <rcernich> kcbabo: so just about everything validates, except the stuff that used to validate
[03:20:36] <rcernich> kcbabo: and the errors are bizarre
[03:20:55] <kcbabo> rcernich:  what validation are we talking about here?
[03:23:49] <rcernich> kcbabo: sorry, xml
[03:24:12] <kcbabo> rcernich:  right, but which xml we talking here?
[03:24:29] <rcernich> kcbabo: really want to know?;)
[03:24:38] <rcernich> kcbabo: switchyard.xml in orders demo
[03:24:51] <kcbabo> rcernich:  so it's not validating with what?
[03:25:01] <rcernich> kcbabo: and the two errors: failure reading one of the sca schema
[03:25:12] <rcernich> kcbabo: saying binding.jca and binding.jms are invalid
[03:25:24] <rcernich> kcbabo: which is really weird because neither are used
[03:25:27] <kcbabo> rcernich:  ok, I thought this had to do with switchyard
[03:25:42] <rcernich> kcbabo: anyway, i was just farting around with an xml resolver plugin
[03:25:48] <kcbabo> rcernich:  ah, I see
[03:26:48] <rcernich> kcbabo: i was going to see if i could cobble together some tooling as i work through this guvnor integration
[03:27:07] <rcernich> kcbabo: and i started this xml thing a while back
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[03:39:03] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: it worked after removeing the whole org dir from my repo
[03:39:18] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: sorry to bother
[03:39:26] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  no worries, maven drives you crazy
[03:40:01] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: hudson gets the whole repo wiped before each compile?
[03:40:20] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  nope
[03:41:04] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: just to know, I am about to commit the camel forge tests, they work ok
[03:41:19] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  great!
[03:41:25] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: I'll do that tomorrow morning
[03:42:03] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: yesterday I sent the unit test that shows the problem with dir with a plus sign, remember?
[03:42:15] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  yeah
[03:42:29] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: sw-425
[03:42:50] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  thanks for filing the issue and creating the test
[03:43:16] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: sure, np
[03:43:39] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: "CU" tomorrow, have to cook now :)
[03:43:48] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  cya ? have fun
[03:44:00] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: btw, any issues in NC?
[03:44:12] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  not inland
[03:44:21] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  coastal areas are in a bit of a panic
[03:44:42] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: so you are not expecting much chaos nearby
[03:44:58] <antollinim_afk> kcbabo: good to know, switchyard needs you :)
[03:45:00] <kcbabo> antollinim_afk:  no, should be good
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[03:57:09] <GitHub148> [core] kcbabo created 0.2 (+1 new commit): http://git.io/BWz-4A
[03:57:09] <GitHub148> [core/0.2] set version to 0.2.0 - Keith Babo
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[04:07:11] <GitHub45> [components] kcbabo created 0.2 (+1 new commit): http://git.io/ikEPCA
[04:07:11] <GitHub45> [components/0.2] set version to 0.2.0 - Keith Babo
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[04:15:55] <GitHub55> [quickstarts] kcbabo created 0.2 (+1 new commit): http://git.io/KDGnWA
[04:15:55] <GitHub55> [quickstarts/0.2] set version to 0.2.0 - Keith Babo
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[04:27:46] <GitHub139> [console] kcbabo created 0.2 (+1 new commit): http://git.io/hWOHgQ
[04:27:46] <GitHub139> [console/0.2] set version to 0.2.0 - Keith Babo
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[04:42:56] <GitHub98> [release] kcbabo created 0.2 (+1 new commit): http://git.io/qg-KSw
[04:42:56] <GitHub98> [release/0.2] set version to 0.2.0 - Keith Babo
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[14:48:42] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  hey dan
[14:49:10] <dbevenius> kcbabo: hey Keith
[14:49:36] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  I tested with standalone-preview and it works
[14:49:58] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  but I think we're a bit late for 0.2, so I'll commit my distro changes first thing for 0.3
[14:50:13] <dbevenius> kcbabo: sounds great
[14:50:25] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  this is my first chance to play with it and I have a few questions which we can discuss on the forums
[14:50:33] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  thanks for the pointer last night
[14:50:38] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  one quick ? though
[14:50:52] <dbevenius> kcbabo: nps. That would be good to discuss this and get other input
[14:51:03] <dbevenius> kcbabo: shoot
[14:51:04] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  you tested using hornetq with the Camel JMS component, right?
[14:51:26] <dbevenius> kcbabo: yep, I've tested it on as7 and as6
[14:51:30] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  great, thanks
[14:51:40] <dbevenius> kcbabo: the client for as6 uses jndi to look up jms stuff...
[14:52:05] <dbevenius> kcbabo: as7 uses a native hornetq client as remote jndi is not there. Not clear on the story about that yet
[14:52:47] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  this is for the test client, right?
[14:53:16] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  saw the AS7 client code in the hornetq quickstart
[14:53:19] <dbevenius> kcbabo: sorry, these are the client that the quickstart uses
[14:53:29] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  cool, I'm with you
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[15:54:21] <magesh1> kcbabo: You there?
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[15:54:45] <kcbabo> magesh:  replying to that email now
[15:55:15] <magesh> kcbabo: :) I wanted to speak about 384
[15:55:21] <kcbabo> magesh:  ah ok
[15:55:43] <magesh> kcbabo: I know you will make him understand, but emphasize that ours is it's own platform
[15:56:14] <magesh> kcbabo: I have an implementation for 384, is it too late for 0.2? I have it working both in AS6, AS7
[15:57:23] <kcbabo> magesh:  definitely too late for 0.2
[15:57:34] <kcbabo> magesh:  I'm gonna defer the only other code change which is hornetq
[15:57:41] <kcbabo> magesh:  that's getting moved to 0.3
[15:57:54] <kcbabo> magesh:  not even a code change really, just a release change, but still gonna punt
[15:58:25] <kcbabo> magesh:  but speaking of 384, we didn't really come to an agreement on a solution, did we?
[15:58:39] <magesh> kcbabo: :(, okay no issues. I will share the code in a few. It is dead simple, if it needs domain level environment properties then some tweaks are needed
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[15:59:00] <kcbabo> magesh:  we need a general purpose mechanism for that, which was going to require some deeper changes to how we initialize components
[15:59:11] <magesh> kcbabo: No, just thought I would get the environment properties get started as it needed for our containers
[15:59:37] <kcbabo> magesh:  ok, well we can use your changes as a starting point for the discussion in any case
[15:59:37] <magesh> kcbabo: Have a look at the code and you will see something
[15:59:41] <kcbabo> magesh:  okie dokie
[15:59:44] <magesh> kcbabo: cool
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[16:29:26] <GitHub3> [quickstarts] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to 0.2: http://git.io/cSQYoA
[16:29:26] <GitHub3> [quickstarts/0.2] updating README for 0.2; changed to markdown - Keith Babo
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[17:13:34] <GitHub195> [parent] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to 0.2: http://git.io/hfd__A
[17:13:34] <GitHub195> [parent/0.2] set version to 0.2.0 - Keith Babo
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[17:14:47] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: Look at you go, with all your "0.2.0"-ing. ;)
[17:15:17] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  ugh, what a pain in the ass
[17:15:49] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: drools has a script that does it.
[17:15:58] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: 'cause there's so many steps to remember/do.
[17:16:34] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: PS: When 0.2 is out the door, besides blogging and tweeting it ourselves, we should tell whoever's in charge of the "This week in JBoss" stuff: http://goo.gl/wLcSs
[17:20:33] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  for sure
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[22:10:41] <GitHub42> [quickstarts] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to 0.2: http://git.io/xFE7LQ
[22:10:41] <GitHub42> [quickstarts/0.2] enabling source attachment so we can deploy to nexus - Keith Babo
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[22:34:44] <igarashitm> I want to have opened the SwitchYard editor when I double clicked the SwitchYard node in BPMN editor :)
[22:46:34] <rcernich> errantepiphany, kcbabo: hey guys
[22:47:00] <errantepiphany> rcernich: hey there. what's up?
[22:47:11] <rcernich> errantepiphany, kcbabo: was wondering if you all had any opinion regarding the removal of schemaLocation from xsd import elements?
[22:47:32] <rcernich> errantepiphany: i've finally gotten something integrated with eclipse for xml validation
[22:47:55] <rcernich> errantepiphany: however, for whatever reason, eclipse wants to always honor systemId
[22:48:35] <rcernich> errantepiphany: i also had to modify Descriptor so it would resolve the schema if no systemId was present
[22:51:02] <errantepiphany> rcernich: I don't get how the xsd's we have will work with a schemaLocation, but I'm a bit slow on that stuff.  Perhaps you could start a developer forum thread on this, with your proposal, including the change(s) necessary to support it?
[22:51:21] <errantepiphany> s/with a schemaLocation/without a schemaLocation/
[22:51:23] <rcernich> errantepiphany: sounds good
[22:52:20] <rcernich> errantepiphany: i believe only references to switchyard and sca use schemaLocation
[22:52:44] <rcernich> errantepiphany: i don't believe any of the component schema are referenced using schemaLocation
[22:53:32] <errantepiphany> rcernich: you're not suggesting we use non-local URLs in our xsd's, though, right? (no includes that start with "http://", for example)
[22:53:55] <rcernich> errantepiphany: removing them altogether
[22:54:04] <rcernich> errantepiphany: relying on publicId to resolve references
[22:54:27] <errantepiphany> rcernich: hmmmm... okay. I'd like to see how that looks. Yeah, please start a discussion thread?
[22:54:38] <rcernich> errantepiphany: will do
[22:54:41] <rcernich> errantepiphany: thanks!
[22:54:45] <errantepiphany> rcernich: no, thank you! ;)
[23:08:32] <rcernich> errantepiphany: are you familiar with the camel component at all?
[23:09:37] <rcernich> errantepiphany: was just curious why we include things like sca, w3 schema in switchyard-config, but not camel or spring schema in switchyard-component-camel
[23:09:51] <errantepiphany> rcernich: sorry, no.
[23:10:15] <errantepiphany> rcernich: check with dbevenius tmrw morning when he's online?
[23:10:43] <rcernich> errantepiphany: k.  (wanted to make sure there weren't any licensing issues)
[23:11:37] <errantepiphany> rcernich: ah, yeah I dunno. Hmmmmm.... that might be a bug in the camel stuff.  All resources required for validation (so ALL the XSDs) we should have local so that things work even on a closed network.
[23:11:54] <rcernich> errantepiphany: ahh
[23:12:14] <rcernich> errantepiphany: i'll check them into my branch
[23:15:05] <errantepiphany> rcernich: please follow the backwards-URL convention we use for all the other xsd's: http://pastebin.com/1rK3pB4z
[23:15:21] <rcernich> errantepiphany: done
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[23:15:28] <errantepiphany> rcernich: cool; thx.
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