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[03:24:40] <kcbabo> rcernich tcunning : you guys around?
[03:25:59] <rcernich> kcbabo: hey!
[03:26:14] <kcbabo> rcernich:  hey rob, can you process a pull for me?
[03:26:20] <kcbabo> rcernich:  sorry to bug you so late
[03:26:26] <rcernich> kcbabo: no problem
[03:26:34] <rcernich> kcbabo: i may need some hand holding (still)
[03:26:37] <kcbabo> rcernich:  https://github.com/jboss-switchyard/components/pull/213
[03:26:41] <kcbabo> rcernich:  thanks!
[03:26:50] <kcbabo> rcernich:  should be super straightforward
[03:35:15] <rcernich> kcbabo: with that welcome-content change, you can get to the console by simply pointing your browser to localhost:8080
[03:35:27] <rcernich> kcbabo: no need to know the path
[03:35:42] <kcbabo> rcernich:  right, I saw the page earlier and it looks sweet
[03:35:53] <kcbabo> rcernich:  just go to 8080 and then click on the SwitchYard link, right?
[03:36:02] <rcernich> kcbabo: yep
[03:36:19] <rcernich> kcbabo: hopefully, it's not too cheesy with the "...with SwitchYard pre-installed"
[03:36:20] <tcunning> kcbabo: what's up
[03:36:38] <tcunning> oh pull request
[03:37:23] <kcbabo> tcunning:  hey
[03:37:27] <kcbabo> tcunning:  rob's got it, thanks
[03:37:33] <kcbabo> rcernich:  no that's good
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[03:38:34] <GitHub74> [components] rcernich pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/nQRsZF
[03:38:34] <GitHub74> [components/master] SWITCHYARD-405 Allow task-specific process variable mappings in jBPM task handler - Keith Babo
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[04:51:59] <kcbabo> tcunning:  I didn't get a chance to bother you before.  Want another shot?  ;-)
[04:52:03] <kcbabo> https://github.com/jboss-switchyard/components/pull/214
[04:52:49] <kcbabo> tcunning:  no biggie if you can't ? magesh can pick it up
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[04:59:11] <tcunning> kcbabo: i'll take it
[04:59:19] <kcbabo> tcunning:  thanks very much
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[05:10:54] <GitHub197> [components] cunningt pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/pumw23
[05:10:54] <GitHub197> [components/master] SWITCHYARD-401 Add contextPath to soap binding schema - Keith Babo
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[05:13:15] <kcbabo> tcunning:  thanks, tom
[05:14:22] <tcunning> kcbabo: no problem
[05:17:26] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: btw, switching to hibernate 3 got things working for me on as7.
[05:17:43] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  that's good, but I feel a but coming ....
[05:18:03] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: I didn't replace what was in as7 by default (hibernate 4 is still there). I just created a slot for org.hibernate that was specific to the version required by jbpm5.
[05:18:38] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  ooh ? nifty
[05:18:39] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: the only "but" left is why the classloader for the rules component can't find a drl file in as7, although the bpm component can find bpmn files in as7.
[05:19:04] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: it's the same exact classloading strategy. weird...
[05:19:16] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  like it can't find the DRL when it's included in an application?
[05:19:45] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: well, the drl file is in test/resources. Doh! That's it. Let me try it in main/resources. ;)
[05:21:08] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  yay!
[05:22:47] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: yeah, the bpmn files in the bpm quickstart are in main/resources - which is why it works. For some reason I put the drl file in the rules quickstart in test/resources - which is why it breaks (I bet). Testing now...
[05:24:09] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: PS - I looked over your bpm code change (regarding variable mappings) earlier today. Looked good. Very straightforward indeed. Thanks for doing that.
[05:30:24] <errantepiphany> the console sure does generate a sh*tload of javascript.
[05:36:41] <errantepiphany> kcbabo, tcunning, wyer: anybody know how to change a commit message after-the-fact in git?
[05:36:58] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  is it still in your local repo?
[05:37:05] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: yes
[05:37:13] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  git commit --amend
[05:37:36] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: schweet. thx.
[05:37:40] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  no probs
[05:37:54] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  I gotta go ? head is gonna explode and need to talk to magesh tomorrow am
[05:37:58] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  have a good one
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[06:05:10] <errantepiphany> tcunning: If you could push https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SWITCHYARD-359 when you get a chance, I would be forever indebted. ;)
[06:05:24] <errantepiphany> tcunning: unfortunately, it's 4 different repos: core, components, quickstarts and release.
[06:06:28] <tcunning> errantepiphany: i can grab it first thing tomorrow if you want
[06:06:41] <errantepiphany> tcunning: that's fine. I'm not working any more tonight. :)
[06:06:55] <errantepiphany> tcunning: although it might be a race between you and kcbabo at that point. :)
[06:07:09] <tcunning> errantepiphany: i wouldn't mind losing :)
[06:07:32] <tcunning> errantepiphany: i'll check on it first thing tomorrow though and if no one else has it, i'll grab it
[06:07:42] <errantepiphany> tcunning: thanks man. :)
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[11:47:08] <tfennelly> magesh: hey magesh... do you have a link to the hudson builds?
[11:47:23] <magesh> tfennelly: One sec
[11:48:24] <magesh> tfennelly: https://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/job/SwitchYard/
[11:48:37] <magesh> tfennelly: substitute that with any suffix that you need
[11:48:40] <tfennelly> magesh: thanks man
[11:48:56] <magesh> tfennelly: nps
[11:49:42] <tfennelly> magesh: sorry... what did you mean by "substitute ..." ?
[11:50:52] <magesh> tfennelly: https://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/job/SwitchYard-Components/, https://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/job/SwitchYard-Release/
[11:51:11] <tfennelly> magesh: ah OK... thanks
[11:58:41] <tfennelly> magesh: balls .... something local in my env is making the core build fail
[11:59:12] <tfennelly> magesh: clean checkout and build of everything... after deleting all switchyard stuff in the local repo
[11:59:15] <magesh> tfennelly: te... he... what is it/
[11:59:17] <magesh> ?
[11:59:29] <tfennelly> magesh: one of the transformer tests
[11:59:47] <magesh> tfennelly: Oh
[11:59:47] <tfennelly> magesh: going to have to zap my maven repo I think... all of it
[11:59:55] <tfennelly> magesh: balls
[12:00:19] <magesh> tfennelly: sometimes that helps, I just rename the repo and pull big ones later if needed
[12:00:52] <tfennelly> magesh: right
[12:01:00] <tfennelly> magesh: grrrrrrr :)
[12:01:05] <magesh> tfennelly: :)
[12:02:22] <magesh> tfennelly: Is it anything to do with JAXB transformer autoregistration
[12:03:53] <tfennelly> magesh: don't think so... I runs fine on an unbuntu instance I have here
[12:04:05] <tfennelly> magesh: and it's not one of the JAXB transformer tests
[12:04:15] <tfennelly> magesh: it's just failing on the XML comparison
[12:04:21] <magesh> tfennelly: Oh okay
[12:04:49] <tfennelly> magesh: so it's prob the xml parser or dom impl code its picking up from the repo
[12:05:07] <tfennelly> magesh: or the version of xmlunit os something daft like that
[12:05:41] <tfennelly> magesh: maven sucks rocks :)
[12:06:07] <magesh> tfennelly: yes it does
[12:06:32] <tfennelly> magesh: I loose quite a bit of time with it actually
[12:06:41] <tfennelly> magesh: shit like this
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[13:19:25] <magesh> tfennelly: Any tips on debugging transformations?
[13:20:06] <tfennelly> magesh: the transformation itself, or the SwitchYard mechansim for firing them?
[13:20:29] <magesh> tfennelly: the mechanism, our demo is bombing
[13:20:43] <magesh> tfennelly: ona JAXB one
[13:21:18] <tfennelly> magesh: well I added more debug logging yesterday, which should help
[13:21:31] <tfennelly> magesh: if you have those changes
[13:21:50] <magesh> tfennelly: In AS7 we use jboss logging somehow the log4j ones are not showing
[13:22:01] <tfennelly> magesh: ah OK
[13:22:07] <tfennelly> magesh: so what's going wrong?
[13:22:50] <magesh> tfennelly: Could not transform. I will add some more debugs
[13:25:09] <tfennelly> magesh: can't really make recommendation until I have an idea of the type of error... I'd need more details magesh...
[13:25:25] <tfennelly> magesh: send me anything you have... exceptiosn etc
[13:25:40] <tfennelly> magesh: I might be able to give you an idea where to look
[13:25:49] <magesh> tfennelly: Don't worry, I will trouble you later if it is more tough
[13:26:40] <tfennelly> magesh: ok
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[16:45:10] <GitHub85> [core] tfennelly pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/qlR4ef
[16:45:10] <GitHub85> [core/master] Add Rules component and dependencies to AS 6 and 7 distributions - David Ward
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[16:45:29] <GitHub156> [components/master] SWITCHYARD-359: Add Rules component and dependencies to AS 6 and 7 distributions - David Ward
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[16:45:45] <GitHub142> [quickstarts] tfennelly pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/nUmhdh
[16:45:45] <GitHub142> [quickstarts/master] SWITCHYARD-359: Add Rules component and dependencies to AS 6 and 7 distributions - David Ward
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[16:45:53] <GitHub101> [release] tfennelly pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/pAbJIc
[16:45:53] <GitHub101> [release/master] SWITCHYARD-359: Add Rules component and dependencies to AS 6 and 7 distributions - David Ward
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[16:50:21] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  are you doing a deploy after those pushes?
[16:50:31] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  if not, I'll do it after I push your pulls
[16:52:03] <tfennelly> kcbabo: yep
[16:52:23] <tfennelly> kcbabo: well... you push my stuff and then I'll do it
[16:52:28] <tfennelly> I'll hang fire for a few mins
[16:52:38] <tfennelly> kcbabo: ^^^
[16:53:08] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  yeah, no probs
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[16:53:42] <GitHub89> [core/master] SWITCHYARD-409: Remove unused required JAXB attributes from transform schema - Tom Fennelly
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[16:57:58] <GitHub104> [core] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/o4dZgv
[16:57:58] <GitHub104> [core/master] SWITCHYARD-410: JAXB transformation fails when ObjectFactory does not produce JAXBElement<?> - Tom Fennelly
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[16:59:50] <tfennelly> kcbabo: so we're done?
[16:59:59] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I'm pushing core now
[17:00:08] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  sorry, deploying I should say
[17:00:17] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  if you want to take the rest, that would be great
[17:00:24] <tfennelly> kcbabo: ah OK... so no need for me to do it then
[17:00:42] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  right
[17:00:53] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  but it looks like david's change touched every repo
[17:00:53] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I normally just do them all
[17:00:59] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  oh, sorry
[17:01:07] <tfennelly> kcbabo: 4 of them
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[17:02:04] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: can you set this jira to "resolved" please? https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SWITCHYARD-359
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[17:02:55] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: done
[17:03:01] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: thanks. :)
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[17:06:34] <tfennelly> kcbabo: tell me when you're done and I'll fire the rest
[17:06:59] <tfennelly> kcbabo: in fact... easier for me to just run it on them all... aws gets it done in a few mins anyway
[17:09:52] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  okie dokie ? just be sure to pull the latest from upstream before you deploy :-)
[17:10:00] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  core is done, so it's all you now
[17:10:12] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I'm off to lunch with the fam - back in about 40 mins.
[17:10:21] <tfennelly> kcbabo: as if I would forget something ;)
[17:10:33] <tfennelly> kcbabo: bon appetite
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[18:19:46] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: ping
[18:19:52] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  hey
[18:20:12] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: regarding https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SWITCHYARD-408
[18:20:27] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: The fix was brain-dead. Can I include it in 0.2? I tested it with a namespace and without. Both work.
[18:20:35] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  yeah, great
[18:20:56] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: If you specify a namespace in the bpmn, it uses that. If you don't, it defaults to the targetNamespace of the app.
[18:23:14] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  perfect
[18:24:33] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  do you have a JIRA for that webapp bit?
[18:26:14] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SWITCHYARD-408 ready to rock.
[18:26:22] <errantepiphany> (pull requests linked)
[18:26:32] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  I'll pick it up in one sec
[18:27:23] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: kewl; thx.
[18:27:48] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  one thing we need to clean up in 0.3 is enforcing that references are actually defined for services invoked by a component
[18:28:03] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  we're pretty loose about that at the moment
[18:28:53] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  for example, a process definition can invoke switchyard services without a reference being defined in the service component
[18:28:54] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: when would you want to enforce that? during validation? just before we're about to invoke?
[18:29:15] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  during activation of the service
[18:29:26] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: seems reasonable.
[18:29:37] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  look at the process definition and figure which services are being invoked, then make sure references are defined
[18:29:58] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  but this is something we need to tighten up in general
[18:30:19] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  probably need to think about a general purpose way
[18:30:21] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: agreed.
[18:30:37] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  before the activator had access to domain, there was no way to even get the service
[18:30:44] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  so there had to be a reference
[18:31:08] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  anyway, something that will probably require some deep thoughts and whiteboard sessions
[18:31:33] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  we'll just put it in the notorious "Activator refactoring" bucket for now ;-)
[18:32:24] <errantepiphany> errantepiphany: yeaahhhhh........
[18:33:45] <tfennelly> kcbabo: you talking about https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SWITCHYARD-367?
[18:34:05] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  right, you gonna keep it as that jira?
[18:34:17] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  if so, I'll move that one into 0.2
[18:34:22] <tfennelly> kcbabo: may as well
[18:34:26] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  okie dokie
[18:34:33] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  did you deploy all that stuff, btw?
[18:34:45] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I'm gonna have to deploy again after processing david's pull
[18:36:33] <tfennelly> kcbabo: balls... components failed for me hmmm
[18:36:53] <tfennelly> kcbabo: clean checkout and switchyard stuff zapped from the local repo
[18:37:07] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  don't sweat it ? I'm gonna deploy again now anyway
[18:37:22] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  checkstyle error in your pull
[18:37:27] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  in components
[18:37:29] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: wtf? really?
[18:37:30] <errantepiphany> doh.
[18:37:31] <tfennelly> kcbabo: maybe some other bits of the maven repo on my aws instance are foawked too
[18:37:33] <errantepiphany> okay; hold on.
[18:40:07] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I'm thinking ... we may as well reuse the numberguess demo app... maybe convert it into a webapp example and zap the other webapp demo I did... whadythink?
[18:40:20] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: are you sure? It just passed for me on a checkstyle:check
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[18:40:57] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: whoa, wait. It doesn't on the individual component, but all of components let it slide. weird.
[18:41:39] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I just want something a bit more sophisticated than numberguess
[18:41:51] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  the existing order service stuff
[18:42:06] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  just paint a JSP on the front and inject the order service into a bean behind the JSP
[18:42:27] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  so the same structure as the numberguess, just different ingredients
[18:42:31] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: alright, I have it fixed. shall i "push -f" ?
[18:42:37] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  please
[18:43:28] <tfennelly> kcbabo: okidoki
[18:43:38] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: done
[18:43:41] <tfennelly> kcbabo: you would be awkward, wouldn't ya ;)
[18:43:41] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  thanks
[18:43:55] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  how is that awkard?  :-)
[18:44:00] <kcbabo> awkward
[18:44:13] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: do I need to issue a new pull request?
[18:44:17] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  number guess is moving ints around ?. not exactly a shining example of SOA
[18:44:18] <tfennelly> kcbabo: ah I'm just pulling yer leg
[18:44:18] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  no
[18:44:29] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  i'm gonna stick one of those pig feet in ya mouth
[18:44:30] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: umm... but I don't see my change on the commit associated with that pull.
[18:44:36] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  don't worry
[18:44:54] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  just think of pull requests as an email and you'll save yourself a lot of grief
[18:45:00] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  the truth is in the repo :-)
[18:45:01] <tfennelly> kcbabo: yer totally right... I just wanted to call you names
[18:45:11] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  :-)
[18:45:16] <tfennelly> kcbabo: mr. fancy pants
[18:45:16] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: let me guess, the commit that gets associated with the pull request doesn't get updated if you squash and force a push
[18:45:28] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: rather, the commit details on the page
[18:45:40] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  antollinim and i were talking about this a while back ? github doesn't detect the change for some reason
[18:45:44] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  but right
[18:45:55] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: well that's freaky
[18:46:12] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  what's even freakier - if you look carefully, github does detect something
[18:46:30] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: will you have to manually close the pull request then, or will it still automagically happen when you push?
[18:46:41] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  because if you pay close attention you'll notice that the comments and commit records appear in chronological order on that pull request page
[18:46:58] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  before you force pushed, the listing was
[18:47:01] <kcbabo> 1 - your commit
[18:47:07] <kcbabo> 2 - my comment "processing"
[18:47:12] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  now it's :
[18:47:17] <kcbabo> 1 - my comment "processing"
[18:47:20] <kcbabo> 2 - your commit
[18:47:28] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: hah!
[18:47:28] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  cue twilight zone music
[18:48:18] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: but your "processing" message says "14 minutes ago", though mine - which comes AFTER it now, says "20 minutes ago".
[18:48:23] <errantepiphany> 29
[18:48:30] <errantepiphany> funny
[18:48:53] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: I bet there's an "order by last_updated" piece of sql in there somewhere
[18:49:29] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  there's definitely some funk in that trunk
[18:49:56] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: is that like "junk in the trunk"?
[18:50:11] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: but the George Clinton version? ;)
[18:50:21] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  yes, but less junky and more funky
[18:50:35] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  speaking of which, I think parliament is coming to play in Raleigh soon
[18:50:43] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: you should go!
[18:50:44] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  that will be an awesome concert
[18:50:58] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: which reminds me... what are the sexiest animals on the farm?
[18:51:09] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: "brown-chicka-brown-cow"
[18:52:01] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  I'm flashing back like a mother
[18:52:09] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: hahahaha
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[18:57:03] <GitHub164> [components] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/ocOCA8
[18:57:03] <GitHub164> [components/master] SWITCHYARD-408: Allow local service name for ServiceName parameter in SwitchYardTaskHandler - David Ward
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[18:57:37] <GitHub123> [quickstarts] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/oz1ffY
[18:57:37] <GitHub123> [quickstarts/master] SWITCHYARD-408: Allow local service name for ServiceName parameter in SwitchYardTaskHandler - David Ward
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[18:58:22] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: thanks. That should make your openshift demo a wee-bit easier.
[18:59:19] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  yeah, the first video will be with a baked app
[18:59:24] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: I think I'll spend the rest of today working on cleaning up wikis and writing a blog on the rules component.
[18:59:32] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  just taking it out of the oven and pushing it to the cloud
[18:59:38] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  that would be great
[18:59:55] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: considering I no longer have 0.2 jiras. (woot!)
[19:00:04] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  we're gonna need docs for bpm and rules for the release, so the sooner the better there
[19:00:14] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: yup. next up for me.
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[19:33:02] <igarashitm> hi anybody know how forge recognize the switchyard-forge-*.jar ?
[19:34:05] <igarashitm> I've copied them to forge/lib, but didn't come to facet list
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[19:45:20] <tcunning> igarashitm: not sure - tfennelly any idea?
[19:46:39] <tfennelly> igarashitm: hey there... you did everything here https://docs.jboss.org/author/display/SWITCHYARD/Installing+Forge+Tooling
[19:46:44] <tfennelly> igarashitm: ?
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[20:24:51] <errantepiphany> http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/07/announcing-git-support-for-google-code.html
[20:25:00] <errantepiphany> YEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[20:42:45] <igarashitm> tcunning: thanks, I think yes... export $FORGE_HOME and $FORGE_HOME/bin to $PATH...
[20:48:37] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  which version of forge are you using and where are you getting the switchyard plugins?
[20:48:59] <igarashitm> kcbabo: 1sec..
[20:50:16] <igarashitm> kcbabo: forge-1.0.0.Alpha3 from original site, and switchyard plugins are from my build for trunk
[20:50:32] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  forge version needs to be Alpha4
[20:50:46] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  the plugins from the prior release works with Alpha3
[20:51:01] <igarashitm> kcbabo: thanks, I'll try it!
[20:51:09] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  for the current release (the plugins you are using from upstream master) you need Alpha4
[20:51:17] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  no probs ? sorry for the confusion
[20:51:27] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  once we update the docs for 0.2, this will be clearer :-)
[20:52:00] <igarashitm> kcbabo: ok, understood :)
[21:02:00] <igarashitm> alpha4 is only available at repository.jboss.org now... not yet at sourceforge.net
[21:02:14] <igarashitm> so I've mis-downloaded alpha3
[21:50:09] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  yeah, I never really paid attention to the links, just clicked on 'em :-)
[21:50:22] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  but you're right, the alpha 4 download does point to nexus
[21:58:25] <igarashitm> kcbabo: yep, and worked with alpha4 :)
[21:58:38] <igarashitm> ok, I've walked through the getting start&user guide
[21:59:31] <kcbabo> great
[22:03:14] <igarashitm> kcbabo: It's time to try some real task.. any small item for my first ?
[22:04:17] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  right now things are winding down for 0.2, so not many issues left
[22:04:32] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  once we get this done, then there will be an explosion of issues for 0.3
[22:05:02] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  one of the best things to do right now, is to try out the various pieces in 0.2 and see if anything breaks
[22:05:08] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  and if it does, fix it :-)
[22:05:40] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  I started a list of features here:
[22:05:43] <kcbabo> http://community.jboss.org/thread/170959
[22:06:42] <igarashitm> kcbabo: ok, so I'll play with the quickstarts and walk into the source code :)
[22:07:27] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  that would be great for a start, thanks
[22:08:01] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  I always think that playing with the quickstarts and changing things is a great way to find issues
[22:08:10] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  maybe add or change a service or binding
[22:08:27] <kcbabo> igarashitm:  that's when you start to hit issues that people didn't plan for
[22:09:35] <igarashitm> kcbabo: ok, that's easy to start
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[22:24:11] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  got a sec?
[22:30:45] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: sure
[22:31:02] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  was just thinking about the soap composer and decomposer stuff
[22:31:47] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  seems to me it would be valuable to have all the headers passed in some scenarios without actually knowing what they were ahead of time
[22:31:52] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  think soap proxy
[22:32:23] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  so soap binding feeding a camel route which then routes to a switchyard service (which is another soap reference binding)
[22:32:57] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  in that case, we would want the headers to flow from the inbound soap endpoint, stay with the message, then populate the headers for the outbound soap request
[22:33:04] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  repeat for the return path
[22:33:41] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  almost seems like this would be a separate context property, e.g. soap.headers
[22:33:43] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: I had thought about that, but I was leery of copying over ALL headres.
[22:34:05] <errantepiphany> headres - hah - that's the french/canadian spelling
[22:34:10] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  hehe
[22:34:14] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  colourful
[22:34:41] <errantepiphany> nice.
[22:35:05] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  we need the same kind of thing for camel as well, since so much of camel processing can be driven off of message headers at runtime
[22:35:31] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  and they stick a bunch of metadata in the header as well when receiving a message
[22:35:57] <antollinim> anyone: has anyone ever run into this error? java.util.zip.ZipException: invalid stored block lengths
[22:36:15] <kcbabo> antollinim:  yikes, no
[22:36:44] <antollinim> anyone: it is a maven test running forge + arquilian
[22:36:44] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: agreed that it should be visited.
[22:36:47] <errantepiphany> antollinim: nope. where?
[22:37:11] <errantepiphany> antollinim: maybe one of your maven dependency jars got interrupted / corrupted during download.
[22:37:28] <antollinim> errantepiphany: could that happen?
[22:38:42] <errantepiphany> antollinim: I'm guessing so... Not sure. Do you know which zip/jar file?
[22:39:42] <antollinim> errantepiphany: have a clue, but not I am not certain since it s a test running arquillian + forge, so I completely lose control of what is going on there
[22:40:55] <antollinim> errantepiphany: I'll see if your tip helps, thanks
[22:41:22] <errantepiphany> antollinim: Do a "jar -tvf clue.jar" , and see if it is successful.
[22:44:13] <antollinim> errantepiphany: ok, thanks
[22:45:35] <antollinim> kcbabo: BTW, I am already in Tampa?
[22:52:41] <kcbabo> antollinim:  great ? welcome!
[22:55:09] <rcernich> antollinim: which jar is giving you problems?
[22:58:53] <antollinim> kcbabo: thanks, I'll let you know when I've got the tickets
[22:59:53] <antollinim> rcernich: I do not have much visibility but I think it is a jar that it is being created from my source running in forge
[23:00:16] <rcernich> antollinim: are you using the maven assembly plugin?
[23:00:32] <rcernich> antollinim: there was a problem yesterday with one of the bpm project's jars
[23:00:56] <antollinim> rcernich: no myself, but maybe, it is using it internally
[23:00:56] <rcernich> antollinim: filtering was set to true for one of the jars in the file set
[23:01:23] <rcernich> antollinim: hmm, doesn't sound similar
[23:01:27] <antollinim> rcernich: you mean that maybe if I update it will go away?
[23:01:59] <rcernich> antollinim: couldn't hurt, look for SWITCHYARD-406 in components
[23:02:21] <rcernich> antollinim: if you've got that, then i'm still at a loss
[23:03:07] <antollinim> rcernich: I'll try that? thanks
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