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[00:00:05] <rcernich> babo_: luckily, i can't see my ears
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[01:22:25] <GitHub186> [core] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/qM8xOe
[01:22:25] <GitHub186> [core/master] SWITCHYARD-378 "TransformerRegistryLoader registerTransformers should - Daniel Bevenius
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[01:41:34] <antollinim> kcbabo: I have been struggling the whole day with dependencies. Have you ever solved a problem where a dependency is referencing a deprecated repository? I have tried adding a mirror but still nothing. I also tried with different versions of the libraries, but nothing.
[01:42:25] <antollinim> kcbabo: Access denied to: http://repository.jboss.org/maven2/jpl-pattern/jpl-pattern/1.0/jpl-pattern-1.0.pom
[01:43:16] <antollinim> kcbabo: that repo is not longer existing
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[02:26:27] <GitHub196> [components] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/qmDgKL
[02:26:27] <GitHub196> [components/master] Enable deployment of rules component - Keith Babo
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[15:05:28] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  hey dan
[15:06:27] <dbevenius> kcbabo: Hey Keith
[15:06:36] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  about to push your hornetq stuff
[15:06:42] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  quick question on the quickstart
[15:06:55] <dbevenius> kcbabo: shoot
[15:06:57] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  do any of those utility methods make sense for the HornetQMixIn ?
[15:07:18] <dbevenius> kcbabo: hmm, they might?let me check
[15:07:40] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  just something to keep in mind
[15:08:17] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  if we find that we have to write code to test implementations or gateways, it's always worth considering whether that would be useful to users in general
[15:08:29] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  but not everything is going to be general purpose
[15:09:14] <dbevenius> kcbabo: yep, that sounds good I think. I'll look this over and create an jira for the HornetQMinIn. Sound good?
[15:09:50] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  sure thing.  thanks
[15:12:45] <dbevenius> kcbabo: it actually looks like those methods are on the HornetQMixIn but they are static at the moment?I clean this up.
[15:16:44] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  ok
[15:17:00] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  so I'll push the quickstart and you will fix it as part of a separate jira?
[15:17:10] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  or do you want to fix it before I push?
[15:17:14] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  I'm good either way
[15:17:44] <dbevenius> kcbabo: I'd prefer to do it as a separate jira?stuck with another issue here at the moment :(
[15:17:53] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  yeah, absolutely
[15:18:00] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  just wanted to make sure we were on the same page
[15:18:03] <dbevenius> kcbabo: great
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[16:07:38] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  that cleared up the compile error
[16:08:00] <dbevenius> kcbabo: great?sorry about that
[16:08:07] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  next question - is there a reason why you didn't add the quickstart to the quickstarts/pom.xml ?
[16:08:14] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  no worries
[16:08:51] <dbevenius> kcbabo: nah, I just forgot about that. Was not sure we were going to use this and just forgot to add one we decided
[16:09:04] <kcbabo> dbevenius:  okie dokie - I'll add and squash
[16:09:15] <dbevenius> kcbabo: should I push a new request?ah perfekt..thanks
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[16:14:36] <GitHub102> [components] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/p8we7I
[16:14:36] <GitHub102> [components/master] SWITCHYARD-380 Adding a HornetQ Component. This will be a hybrid SwitchYard/Camel - Daniel Bevenius
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[16:27:56] <GitHub15> [quickstarts] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/n1UZ9P
[16:27:56] <GitHub15> [quickstarts/master] SWITCHYARD-380 Quickstart that demonstrates the HornetQ component and specifically - Daniel Bevenius
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[16:56:51] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  playing with the rules component now
[16:57:10] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  wondering if we need a separate global for the reply content
[16:57:21] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  looks like the current mechanism is to set content on the request message, IINM
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[17:14:08] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  got a sec to handle a push for me?
[17:14:13] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I will take care of yours after that?
[17:15:10] <wyer> howdy peeps
[17:18:15] <tfennelly> kcbabo: back... needed to get some bicuits at the shop :)
[17:18:23] <tfennelly> kcbabo: sure thing... I'll grab it
[17:18:38] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  mmm ? biscuits
[17:18:51] <kcbabo> hey justin
[17:18:59] <wyer> kcbabo, hi Keith
[17:19:04] <wyer> tfennelly, scooby snacks ?
[17:19:31] <tfennelly> kcbabo: hey Justin... no.. Mikados :)
[17:19:44] <tfennelly> wyer: oops... sorry... wrong nick there
[17:19:49] <wyer> :)
[17:20:10] <tfennelly> wyer: great thing is... nobody else here likes them, but I love them
[17:20:20] <tfennelly> wyer: no need to hide them or anything ;)
[17:20:27] <wyer> tfennelly, hah that is a good thing
[17:22:51] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  they are all on here:
[17:22:51] <kcbabo> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SWITCHYARD-363
[17:23:20] <tfennelly> kcbabo: lovely jobly
[17:23:47] <tfennelly> kcbabo: you ever seen "only Fools and Horses" in the US?
[17:23:50] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  btw, no merge commits!  ;-)
[17:24:04] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  no, sounds like a girl movie
[17:24:04] <tfennelly> kcbabo: thanks for reminding me
[17:24:17] <tfennelly> kcbabo: oh no...
[17:24:24] <tfennelly> kcbabo: funniest TV show ever
[17:24:36] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  oh wait, now I remember
[17:24:51] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  dudes that have a get rich quick scam all the time
[17:25:04] <tfennelly> kcbabo: that's the on
[17:25:47] <tfennelly> kcbabo: Dell Boy is the main character... really fancies himself as a Yuppie
[17:26:10] <tfennelly> kcbabo: anyway... that was one of his lines.. "lovely jobly"
[17:28:31] <rcernich> tfennelly: i'm putting that on my netflix
[17:28:46] <rcernich> tfennelly: ever see "trailer park boys"
[17:29:16] <tfennelly> rcernich: lol awesome... will be interesting to hear what someone from that side of the pond makes of it
[17:29:27] <tfennelly> rcernich: no... never heard of that
[17:29:59] <rcernich> tfennelly: i'm sure i'll love it. big fan of brit comedy.
[17:31:05] <rcernich> tfennelly: tpb is out of canada.  similar concept: bunch of guys trying to make it big.
[17:31:21] <tfennelly> rcernich: ah... sounds great
[17:31:39] <tfennelly> rcernich: I'll keep an eye out for it
[17:32:13] <tfennelly> rcernich: can't say I've ever heard of it, but then I'm not a huge TV/movie buff
[17:32:46] <rcernich> tfennelly: yeah.  no cable/satellite here, so we pick up things by word of mouth
[17:33:14] <rcernich> tfennelly: i'm still holding out for the remake of blake's 7
[17:33:30] <tfennelly> rcernich: hehehe... never heard of that either
[17:33:52] <rcernich> tfennelly: old school brit sci-fi, from the 70's
[17:35:59] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: sorry... been heads down. just saw your note to me above. can we talk about it later? I'm close to finishing up here...
[17:37:38] <kcbabo> errantepiphany:  sure thing ? it was just a random observation
[17:38:08] <errantepiphany> kcbabo: ah, ok
[17:56:06] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I'm very disappointed
[17:56:15] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I got all excited there for a min
[17:56:29] <tfennelly> kcbabo: thought I was going to get some payback
[17:56:50] <tfennelly> kcbabo: but can't blame you
[17:56:54] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  watcha mean?
[17:56:59] <tfennelly> kcbabo: checkstyle error
[17:57:11] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  really? damn
[17:57:11] <tfennelly> kcbabo: but it looks like it was from a previous commit
[17:57:22] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  hmmm ? that's kinda strange
[17:57:24] <tfennelly> kcbabo: nah... not you
[17:57:30] <tfennelly> kcbabo: which is a bumber
[17:57:32] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  build should fail if that's the case
[17:57:34] <tfennelly> kcbabo: for me
[17:57:35] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  :-)
[17:57:38] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  which repo?
[17:57:47] <tfennelly> kcbabo: core
[18:17:41] <kcbabo> tcunning:  do you have 30 secs to help with something real quick?
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[18:21:06] <tcunning> kcbabo: sure
[18:21:14] <kcbabo> tcunning:  thanks very much
[18:21:28] <kcbabo> tcunning:  just pull the latest into your jboss-switchyard/core repository
[18:21:38] <kcbabo> tcunning:  then run "mvn clean install checkstyle:check"
[18:21:43] <kcbabo> tcunning:  let me know if the build fails
[18:22:04] <tcunning> kcbabo: do i need to refresh parent too?
[18:22:23] <kcbabo> tcunning:  probably wouldn't hurt
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[18:30:40] <tcunning> kcbabo: works for me
[18:32:13] <kcbabo> tcunning:  thanks for that
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[18:49:55] <antollinim> kcbabo: just so you know, regarding forge test, I have been struggling with dependencies for many hours now, no concrete progress yet :(
[18:50:01] <errantepiphany> why the F does maven have to download netbeans' cvsclient just so that I can run "mvn site"? sweet lawrd!!!
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[18:51:18] <errantepiphany> oh, and "mvn dependency:tree" doesn't show everything. I don't see a dependency in that tree output, but I see it added in Eclipse under "Maven Dependencies". Friggin' A.
[18:54:50] <errantepiphany> kcbabo, tfennelly, tcunning, wyer, rcernich: Any of you guys know how to have maven output the TEST dependency tree? It seems like "mvn dependency:tree" doesn't do that, and I don't see an option here: http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-dependency-plugin/usage.html
[18:56:33] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: afraid not... did you google?
[18:56:53] <tcunning> errantepiphany: it looks like you can add scope
[18:56:56] <tcunning> http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-dependency-plugin/tree-mojo.html
[18:57:40] <antollinim> errantepiphany: would dependency:list work for you?
[18:57:49] 
[18:57:55] <errantepiphany> nice.
[18:58:29] <tcunning> that looks unresolved and open
[19:01:04] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: dependency:list shows the culprit dependencies, but dependency:tree doesn't. Which sucks, because I need to know WHICH of our dependencies is the parent of the culprits. Argh.
[19:01:34] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: love maven
[19:01:39] <rcernich> errantepiphany: the pom editor in eclipse displays the scope in the hierarchy
[19:02:28] <rcernich> errantepiphany: it also displays whether or not the dependency was omitted because of a conflicting version declared elsewhere in the hierarchy
[19:02:50] <rcernich> errantepiphany: not sure if that helps
[19:02:51] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: I was able to fix a couple places. Namely, jbpm:human-task and milyn-...all.. brought in xml-apis:xml-apis and xerces:xercesImpl, which conflict with those already in the JDK. It causes me an AbstractMethod error, since those older versions don't include a method that the JDK does that I need.
[19:03:26] <errantepiphany> tfennelly: but there must be some place else, since I still see them in the dependency:list.
[19:03:55] <errantepiphany> rcernich: where does eclipse show the hierarchy?
[19:04:14] <rcernich> errantepiphany: pom editor, dependency hierarchy tab
[19:04:42] <rcernich> errantepiphany: test dependencies are light gray
[19:04:48] <tfennelly> errantepiphany: not sure... but sounds like rcernich knows a way with your beloved eclipse
[19:04:52] <errantepiphany> rcernich: THANK YOU! YOU ARE THE MAN!
[19:05:13] <rcernich> errantepiphany: i'm assuming that helps
[19:05:20] <errantepiphany> rcernich: oh hell yes, thanks!
[19:05:39] <rcernich> errantepiphany: just need to figure out the special sauce used by the plugin.  i'm sure you can do that via command line.
[19:07:33] <errantepiphany> rcernich: I dunno. Maybe there's something in the API that the plugin uses that isn't a command-line option.
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[19:07:37] <GitHub116> [core] tfennelly pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/oBFUKI
[19:07:37] <GitHub116> [core/master] SWITCHYARD-363 Create a Forge plugin for Rules component - Keith Babo
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[19:07:45] <errantepiphany> rcernich: but anyways, it works for me now. Thanks a thousand times. :)
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[19:07:59] <GitHub40> [components] tfennelly pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/osRzxy
[19:07:59] <GitHub40> [components/master] SWITCHYARD-363 Create a Forge plugin for Rules component - Keith Babo
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[19:08:00] <rcernich> errantepiphany: no problem.  glad it helped.
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[19:08:12] <GitHub135> [release] tfennelly pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/oAfKwc
[19:08:12] <GitHub135> [release/master] SWITCHYARD-363 Create a Forge plugin for the Rules component - Keith Babo
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[19:47:10] <kcbabo> antollinim:  what's the dependency issue?
[19:48:00] <antollinim> kcbabo: I am trying to create a test replicating the way the forge tests work
[19:48:39] <antollinim> kcbabo: I keep geeting different errors when I change from one version to another of different dependencies
[19:49:23] <kcbabo> antollinim:  is there a specific maven artifact?
[19:49:26] <antollinim> kcbabo: it seems the problem comes from shrinkwrap
[19:49:47] <kcbabo> antollinim:  I guess the first question is whether you are able to run the forge build
[19:49:59] <kcbabo> antollinim:  does that work for you?
[19:50:13] <antollinim> kcbabo: http://www.jboss.org/shrinkwrap
[19:50:29] <kcbabo> antollinim:  sorry?
[19:50:41] <antollinim> kcbabo: I did not try to compile forge
[19:51:13] <kcbabo> antollinim:  ok, I'm a bit confused about what's failing then
[19:51:31] <antollinim> kcbabo: let's start over
[19:51:43] <antollinim> kcbabo: I started here: https://docs.jboss.org/author/display/SEAMFORGE/Test+your+Plugin
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[19:52:10] <kcbabo> antollinim:  that seems right
[19:53:00] <antollinim> kcbabo: when I added that I had missing dependencies required by Forge's Test Env
[19:53:22] <antollinim> kcbabo: I looked like the missing dependency was shrinkwrap
[19:53:42] <kcbabo> antollinim:  but forge itself must use this same test support I imagine
[19:54:10] <kcbabo> antollinim:  perhaps looking at the forge tests might reveal the dependencies and versions that are required?
[19:55:14] <antollinim> kcbabo: that was what I had been doing with no luck yet
[19:56:15] <antollinim> kcbabo: I just wanted you to know that I was working on this, I did not want to bother you
[19:56:49] <antollinim> kcbabo: I'll keep trying a few more things, I'll let you know if I give up
[19:58:00] <kcbabo> antollinim:  that's cool ? not sure why it's not working
[19:58:14] <antollinim> kcbabo: me neither ;)
[19:58:27] <kcbabo> antollinim:  there's an actual compilation error when you just use the maven dependencies listed on that page
[19:58:28] <kcbabo> ?
[19:58:42] <antollinim> kcbabo: but I am stubborn
[19:59:24] <antollinim> kcbabo: mmm... I do no recall if it is a compilarion error or a runtime error.. I had many different erros
[20:02:45] <antollinim> kcbabo: just tried again: it is a runtime error
[20:02:54] <antollinim> kcbabo: java.lang.AbstractMethodError: org.jboss.shrinkwrap.impl.base.spec.JavaArchiveImpl.addManifestResource(Lorg/jboss/shrinkwrap/api/asset/Asset;Lorg/jboss/shrinkwrap/api/ArchivePath;)Lorg/jboss/shrinkwrap/api/Archive;
[20:03:46] <antollinim> kcbabo: that was the time when I added the shrinkwrap dependency and things changed but still with errors
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[20:05:17] <kcbabo> antollinim:  what version are you using for the forge test dependencies that you added?
[20:07:45] <antollinim> kcbabo: 1.0.0.Alpha4
[20:08:27] <kcbabo> antollinim:  hmmm ...
[20:08:50] <antollinim> kcbabo: mmm
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[20:23:50] <kcbabo> wyer:  just wanted a give you a heads up that I'm going to reassign SWITCHYARD-359 to david as we need to have it done by the end of the week
[21:12:55] <antollinim> kcbabo: it looks like I managed to get dependecies resolved now...
[21:13:04] <kcbabo> antollinim:  cool
[21:13:28] <antollinim> kcbabo: I need to see how to do the actual test now
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