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[00:12:51] <Mazon> and @ awake?
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[04:29:02] <GitHub73> [release] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/onxGjE
[04:29:02] <GitHub73> [release/master] (SWITCHYARD-336) Add bpm component to SwitchYard distributions - Justin Wyer
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[05:00:27] <tcunning>  i hate how if Amazon EC2 goes down the web is like unusuable
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[12:21:08] <tfennelly> magesh: yt magesh?
[12:21:54] <magesh> tfennelly: Hi Tom
[12:22:01] <tfennelly> magesh: hey man
[12:22:13] <tfennelly> magesh: how are the teeth?
[12:22:40] <magesh> tfennelly: Just hanging. Will have to pull it out eventually
[12:22:53] <tfennelly> magesh: arg
[12:23:41] <tfennelly> magesh: hey... have you ever noticed that when you run the release build, it goes off and gets SNAPSHOTs from nexus, even when they're older than what's in the local repo?
[12:24:22] <tfennelly> magesh: so I could build everything (parent, core, components etc)
[12:24:28] <magesh> tfennelly: I noticed, but Keith says it works fine for him
[12:24:35] <tfennelly> magesh: then build release
[12:24:47] <tfennelly> magesh: and it zaps all the stuff in my local repo
[12:24:54] <magesh> tfennelly: Yep
[12:25:02] <tfennelly> magesh: ok... grand... not just me then
[12:25:20] <magesh> tfennelly: Arquillian's maven plugin seem to be the culprit for me
[12:25:44] <tfennelly> magesh: ahh ok
[12:25:54] <magesh> tfennelly: I tried using their latest version which supports goOffline() but then left it there
[12:25:59] <tfennelly> magesh: I'm trying it in offline mode here to see if it happens
[12:26:07] <magesh> tfennelly: :) +1
[12:40:01] <tfennelly> magesh: also barfed running it offline
[12:40:12] <tfennelly> magesh: I wonder is it Shrinkwrap
[12:40:54] <tfennelly> magesh: coz we use that in the Arquillian tests to get the artifacts from maven for @Deployment
[12:42:20] <magesh> tfennelly: It must be the maven dependency resolver from Arquillian. I see ShrinkWrap is just given the jar from that resolver
[12:42:49] <tfennelly> magesh: right
[12:43:01] <tfennelly> magesh: that resolver thing is part of Shrinkwrap
[12:43:14] <magesh> tfennelly: Oh :)
[12:43:17] <tfennelly> magesh: anyway... something screwy there
[12:43:26] <magesh> tfennelly: right
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[13:48:46] <GitHub7> [core] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/mVcRwk
[13:48:46] <GitHub7> [core/master] SWITCHYARD-379: Add support for webapp deployment - Tom Fennelly
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[13:50:51] <tfennelly> kcbabo: thanks keith
[13:56:59] <tfennelly> kcbabo: were you able to run a release build without deploying everything to nexus first?
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[14:03:22] <GitHub112> [components] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/pHfoo0
[14:03:22] <GitHub112> [components/master] SWITCHYARD-379: Add support for webapp deployment - Tom Fennelly
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[14:03:53] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I didn't try because I thought that required your release changes?
[14:04:47] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I didn't have any release changes as part of that
[14:05:45] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I misread the JIRA then
[14:05:48] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  "Once these other changes are pushed and built out to Nexus, I'll test the releas module."
[14:06:03] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I read this to mean that you had a release test that was part of it, but you couldn't test that until this stuff was pushed
[14:06:26] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  there is definitely something messed up with how resolution is happening
[14:07:24] <tfennelly> kcbabo: no... I can't get the release build to run because it keeps pulling down old shit from nexus, causing the build to break
[14:07:43] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  ah, wish I had realized that before pushing :-)
[14:07:54] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I'm guessing (and so is magesh) that it's something to do with shrinkwrap
[14:08:39] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  the issue last time is that the resolver was not pulling down updated snapshot versions
[14:08:59] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  that's most likely due to the fact that it referenced the quickstarts pom.xml, which has snapshot updates disabled
[14:09:22] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  we need to add a repository section to the release repository that has snapshot checks set to always
[14:10:05] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  right now, there's no repository section in that pom, which has another side effect - you can't build the release module independently
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[14:12:39] <GitHub61> [quickstarts] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/r7IS9K
[14:12:39] <GitHub61> [quickstarts/master] SWITCHYARD-379: Add support for webapp deployment - Tom Fennelly
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[14:14:05] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I'll hack on it here and see can I figure out what's happening
[14:14:30] <tfennelly> kcbabo: in other news... google sync has wiped all the contacts from my phone :(
[14:14:41] <tfennelly> kcbabo: bastardo
[14:17:22] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  hey, great news!  :-)
[14:17:56] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I'm not happy
[14:18:27] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  yeah, that really sucks :-(
[14:19:05] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  btw, it looks like we have three Util classes that handle the deployment packaging now
[14:19:27] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  two versions of ArquillianUtil and a new ShrinkwrapUtil
[14:19:37] <tfennelly> kcbabo: yeah... I saw that... need to sort that out... not sure why we created the duplicates
[14:19:51] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  so if we need to make a tweak to how stuff is handled there - we might want to compress those into one (or two max)
[14:20:16] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  running a release build now, btw
[14:20:20] <tfennelly> kcbabo: for sure
[14:20:29] <tfennelly> kcbabo: fingers X'd
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[14:22:00] <magesh> tfennelly: LOL
[14:22:22] <magesh> kcbabo: You got mail!
[14:22:22] <tfennelly> magesh: what are you laughing at?
[14:22:32] <magesh> tfennelly:  fingers X'd
[14:22:42] <tfennelly> magesh: ah :)
[14:23:31] <magesh> kcbabo: Blame me for duplicate, I created a JIRA for that
[14:27:14] <kcbabo> magesh:  :-) thanks
[14:27:22] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  release build passed for me
[14:27:34] <tfennelly> kcbabo: phew
[14:27:45] <magesh> tfennelly: See I told ya
[14:27:51] <tfennelly> kcbabo: ok... I'll try sort out the maven/shrinkwrap issue
[14:28:01] <kcbabo> magesh:  saw the email and I'm processing
[14:28:11] <magesh> kcbabo: Thanks
[14:28:11] <kcbabo> magesh:  need to drive the bus to school, so I'll reply when I get back
[14:28:17] <magesh> kcbabo: nps
[14:28:23] <kcbabo> magesh:  hope you feel better
[14:31:18] <magesh> tfennelly: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SWITCHYARD-362, was planning to cover the duplicates here.
[14:32:56] <tfennelly> magesh: cool... I'll look into it... thanks magesh
[14:33:23] <magesh> tfennelly: Thank you
[14:33:23] <tfennelly> magesh: can I assign it to me?
[14:33:31] <magesh> tfennelly: Sure
[14:33:34] <tfennelly> magesh: thanks man
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[14:57:17] <Mazon> any channel admins up and around ?
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[16:10:52] <tfennelly> jesus maven does my head in big time
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[16:43:51] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  fyi - i'm adding that repo definition now
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[16:44:04] <GitHub161> [release] kcbabo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/n5W83r
[16:44:04] <GitHub161> [release/master] Adding repository definition to release pom - Keith Babo
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[16:44:06] <tfennelly> kcbabo: to release?
[16:44:12] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  yep
[16:44:27] <tfennelly> kcbabo: ok... I'd already done it too, but no worries
[16:44:42] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I need it for something else as well
[16:45:00] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  for basic project stuff like that, I just push it in
[16:45:07] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  saves the useless JIRAs
[16:45:17] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  same thing for .gitignore and other stuff
[16:45:23] <tfennelly> kcbabo: good idea
[16:47:28] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I've found a few things wrong with the poms, but not the root cause yet
[16:47:40] <tfennelly> kcbabo: just trying to get rid of all warnings first
[16:47:56] <tfennelly> kcbabo: we had plugins defined twice and such like
[16:48:06] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  ah ? that's probably bad
[16:48:06] <tfennelly> kcbabo: plugins with no version
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[16:48:30] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  sorry to create merge traffice for you
[16:48:37] <kcbabo> traffic even
[16:48:48] <tfennelly> kcbabo: the release docs module throws up some really nasty looking warnings
[16:48:58] <tfennelly> kcbabo: no worries
[16:51:13] <tfennelly> kcbabo: after pushing doing my changes this morning, did you build you to nexus?
[16:51:41] <tfennelly> kcbabo: not asking you to.... in fact if you didn't, please don't
[16:51:54] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I deployed everything
[16:51:59] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I want it broken for now so as to test this
[16:52:06] <tfennelly> kcbabo: ah interesting
[16:52:09] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  sorry
[16:52:44] <tfennelly> kcbabo: no worries
[16:55:03] <tfennelly> kcbabo: hmmmm.... really f&*king strange this
[16:55:29] <tfennelly> kcbabo: one thing I did not try was zapping the switchyard artifacts in my local repo
[17:04:18] <Mazon> kcbabo: can you elo me with the topic/logging issue ? - you're registered as the founder of the channel
[17:04:26] <Mazon> s/elo/help
[17:04:40] <kcbabo> Mazon:  sure, what's up
[17:04:41] <kcbabo> ?
[17:04:54] <Mazon> I got a ping from freenode staff, that they'd like channels that log, to put a notice in topic (fx: IRC Logs:  http://echelog.com/?switchyard)
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[17:05:18] <kcbabo> Mazon:  ok, I can do that
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[17:20:55] <kcbabo> Mazon:  good?
[17:21:28] <Mazon> yeah
[17:21:42] <kcbabo> Mazon:  cool, thanks for hooking us up with the loggin
[17:21:44] <kcbabo> logging
[17:21:48] <Mazon> np
[17:22:18] <Mazon> just need to make sure that freenode-staff is cool about it :)
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[18:07:16] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  in that AS6 release test, is there a reason why you created a separate invoker for the web service call vs. using HttpMixIn ?
[18:07:55] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  was that before we had the MixIn?
[18:08:24] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I was about to move the AS7 tests to use the MixIn and I certainly would like to hear if there are any stoppers there
[18:09:52] <tfennelly> kcbabo: lemme check
[18:10:38] <tfennelly> kcbabo: ah that thing
[18:12:00] <tfennelly> kcbabo: good question
[18:13:03] <tfennelly> kcbabo: in the case of that test I don't see any reason why I couldn't have used the HttpMixIn
[18:13:15] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  OK, cool
[18:13:27] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I can try updating that as part of my other fixes
[18:14:08] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I guess that thing can be used for anything that camel supports (including async responses), but I don't see a good reason why I did that
[18:14:31] <tfennelly> kcbabo: so zap it for sure
[18:14:50] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  okie dokie
[18:16:26] <tfennelly> kcbabo, errantepiphany: could one of you boys do me a little fav and test something for me
[18:17:00] <tfennelly> kcbabo, errantepiphany: I'm getting  strange build error in the release module... thinking it might be a dirty local maven repo
[18:17:11] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  my release build is A-OK right now
[18:17:14] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  what's up?
[18:18:44] <tfennelly> kcbabo: the orders demo test fails on me, but it looks like it might be a dirty dep in the maven repo
[18:19:30] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  in which distro?
[18:19:35] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  as6 or as7
[18:19:43] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I assume you can see my activity... https://github.com/tfennelly
[18:19:44] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  it's working for me in both at the moment
[18:20:05] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  ah, you mean with your changes?
[18:20:09] <tfennelly> kcbabo: neither of those... in the release/test module
[18:20:19] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  so as6 then
[18:20:33] <tfennelly> kcbabo: right... but mine was broken before the changes too
[18:20:37] <tfennelly> kcbabo: aye
[18:20:41] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  ok
[18:20:46] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  what would you like me to do?
[18:21:06] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I actually just blew away my local repo, so I'm already building based off the nexus stuff
[18:21:06] <tfennelly> kcbabo: if you pull the changes from the branches listed in my most recent activity
[18:21:10] <tfennelly> kcbabo: https://github.com/tfennelly
[18:21:29] <tfennelly> kcbabo: yeah... I'm thinking I might have to do the same
[18:22:25] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  ok, I'm in the middle of changing some release stuff myself for SWITCHYARD-382, so give me a sec to stash this stuff
[18:22:55] <tfennelly> kcbabo: no worries... I need to head out to the shops anyway... back in a little bit
[18:23:35] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  right on
[18:23:44] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I'll pull the latest from yours and test
[18:24:10] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  so this is SWITCHYARD-383, right?
[18:24:14] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  just want to be sure
[18:25:02] <tfennelly> kcbabo: right
[18:25:15] <tfennelly> kcbabo: all those 383 branches
[18:25:47] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  geez ....
[18:27:10] <tfennelly> kcbabo: what lol?
[18:27:17] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  pain in the ass
[18:27:33] <tfennelly> kcbabo: well... actually... just do parent and release
[18:27:47] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I can do them all if you want
[18:28:25] <tfennelly> kcbabo: the changes in the others are just to explicitly set the releativePath for the parent pom to blank
[18:28:38] <tfennelly> kcbabo: so not needed for this test
[18:28:56] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  ok
[18:30:06] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  hey - there's an extra commit in your parent repository
[18:30:08] <tfennelly> kcbabo: thanks man
[18:30:13] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  related to 379
[18:30:21] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  there was no pull request for that one
[18:30:24] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  did you need it?
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[18:30:46] <tfennelly> kcbabo: huh... lemme check
[18:32:43] <tfennelly> kcbabo: hmmm... I should have committed that with the other changes alright... no biggie though... I'll get rid of it... well spotted
[18:33:10] <tfennelly> kcbabo: actually... it could go in with those changes... I could squash it
[18:33:55] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  building release now
[18:34:03] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  with an empty switchyard repository
[18:34:04] <tfennelly> kcbabo: it's just setting the SWITCHYARD_VERSION env variable for surefire
[18:34:50] <tfennelly> kcbabo: thanks
[18:35:16] <tfennelly> kcbabo: back in a few mins.... need to get something for dinner
[18:44:11] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  this is what I get when running it ? doesn't make it to the test
[18:44:13] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  [ERROR] Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-dependency-plugin:2.1:copy (stage-jboss) on project switchyard-release-as6: Unable to resolve artifact. Could not transfer artifact org.switchyard:switchyard-as6-build:zip:0.2.0-SNAPSHOT from/to jboss-public-repository-group (http://repository.jboss.org/nexus/content/groups/public/): Error transferring file: Operation timed out
[18:44:14] <kcbabo> [ERROR] org.switchyard:switchyard-as6-build:zip:0.2.0-SNAPSHOT
[18:44:14] <kcbabo> [ERROR]
[18:44:26] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  you might want to clean out your switchyard maven repo and try again
[19:30:11] <tfennelly> kcbabo: ok... thanks keith
[19:36:40] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I zapped ~/.m2/repository/org/switchyard and still get the org.switchyard.test.ordersdemo.OrdersDemoQuickstartTest failure
[19:37:03] <tfennelly> kcbabo: no worries though... I'll run it on aws and see what happens
[19:37:13] <tfennelly> kcbabo: and I'll totlaly zap my local repo
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[20:30:08] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  would you mind taking a look at SWITCHYARD-382 when you're done with 383?
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[21:04:34] <tfennelly> kcbabo: will do
[21:05:01] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  cool, thanks man
[21:05:19] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  figured you were having so much fun with release stuff that you'd want to stay neck deep in it :-)
[21:05:39] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  also you know way more about that arquillian stuff
[21:05:42] <tfennelly> kcbabo: you know me well ;)
[21:05:53] <tfennelly> kcbabo: maybe you don't know me so well ;)
[21:06:14] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  the AS7 tests appear to be packaging up the test class and deploying it cause when I try to add the MixIn I get CNF errors
[21:06:23] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  ha!  that was funny
[21:06:59] <rcernich> kcbabo: you mind if i replace those "find*()" methods in the admin api with "get*()" methods?
[21:07:09] <tfennelly> kcbabo: hmmm... so this is the shrinkwrap maven resolver thing?
[21:07:18] <kcbabo> rcernich:  I was hoping for that ;-)
[21:07:20] <rcernich> kcbabo: don't know what i was thinking when i named those (PITA)
[21:07:32] <rcernich> kcbabo: done!
[21:07:50] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I guess
[21:08:10] <tfennelly> kcbabo: no worries.. I'll have a look
[21:08:25] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  I looked at it and couldn't figure out what was going on in five minutes ? which is my limit
[21:09:06] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I'm trying to find my earlier issue now... using aws coz I can zap the whole maven repo there and get it back again "relatively" quicly
[21:10:27] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  right
[21:10:27] <tfennelly> kcbabo: well... I've run into a few issues with Shrinkwrap and the maven resolver
[21:10:56] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I couldn't figure out how to get it to resolve web archives
[21:11:14] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I gave up too after a bit of random looking
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[21:13:30] <kcbabo> tfennelly:  yeah, I haven't really invested the time to look at the machinery underneath arquillian, so I imagine a good bit of that will be a mystery to me until I take the time.
[21:33:58] <rcernich> kcbabo: we were saying, for the purposes of 0.2, there is a 1:1 correlation between component and component service, right?
[21:54:46] <tfennelly> kcbabo: I get the same error on a clean AWS as I'm getting locally, so at least that's something :)
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[23:53:30] <babo_> rcernich: did you ask me something earlier?
[23:54:08] <rcernich> babo_: just looking for verification: component : component service is 1:1?
[23:54:26] <rcernich> babo_: for 0.2 console
[23:54:41] <rcernich> babo_: (i.e. not permanently)
[23:54:43] <babo_> rcernich:  hmm ... want to make sure we're talking about the same thing
[23:55:04] <babo_> rcernich:  did you mean composite : component service ?
[23:55:16] <rcernich> babo_: i thought we said we could assume a component only ever contained a single service
[23:55:20] <babo_> rcernich:  we were ditching the component view, right?
[23:55:37] <babo_> rcernich:  I think we were discussing interfaces
[23:55:40] <rcernich> babo_: yes.  to clarify: component == sca.Component
[23:56:08] <rcernich> babo_: or, ComponentModel.getServices().size() = {0,1}
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[23:56:53] <rcernich> babo_: e.g. orders demo has two components, each with a single service
[23:57:01] <babo_> rcernich:  right
[23:57:03] <rcernich> (component service)
[23:57:06] <rcernich> babo_: cool
[23:57:16] <babo_> rcernich:  strictly speaking, we are capable of supporting multiple services per component
[23:57:24] <rcernich> babo_: yes
[23:57:47] <rcernich> babo_: but, for this friday, it's one service per component;)
[23:58:00] <babo_> rcernich:  sorry, when I said "right" I was confirming that the orders demo only has one service per component
[23:58:07] <babo_> rcernich:  haha!  that's fine
[23:58:20] <rcernich> babo_: if i have time, i'll rejigger
[23:58:39] <rcernich> babo_: i'm getting ready for a smoke test
[23:58:58] <babo_> rcernich: you are on fire!
[23:59:25] <rcernich> babo_: don't know about that
[23:59:39] <rcernich> babo_: i think there's probably a lot of carnage in my wake ;)
[23:59:42] <babo_> rcernich:  where there's smoke ...
[23:59:54] <rcernich> babo_: seems to be circling my head

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