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[05:21:17] <GreenEmber> how do i use factoids?
[05:21:29] <GreenEmber> or where do i find the documentation that explains how to use the plugins?
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[05:24:15] <SpiderDave> there's some links in the topic, but you can find out a lot with the various help commands
[05:24:18] <SpiderDave> hmm
[05:24:26] <SpiderDave> &list factoids
[05:24:26] <gribble> alias, change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, rank, search, unlock, and whatis
[05:24:41] <SpiderDave> &help factoids alias
[05:24:41] <gribble> (factoids alias [<channel>] <oldkey> <newkey> [<number>]) -- Adds a new key <newkey> for factoid associated with <oldkey>. <number> is only necessary if there's more than one factoid associated with <oldkey>. The same action can be accomplished by using the 'learn' function with a new key but an existing (verbatim) factoid content.
[05:25:23] <GreenEmber> ok i still dont get it
[05:25:43] <SpiderDave> &factoids learn
[05:25:43] <gribble> Error: You don't have the factoids.learn capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
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[05:25:49] <SpiderDave> &help factoids learn
[05:25:50] <gribble> (factoids learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
[05:25:53] <GreenEmber> ahhh
[05:26:07] <SpiderDave> i haven't used factoids, but if you check out all the commands you should get an idea
[05:26:18] <GreenEmber> what else can this thing do?
[05:26:23] <SpiderDave> everything ;)
[05:26:29] <GreenEmber> i broke it earlier
[05:26:33] <SpiderDave> oh?
[05:26:44] <GreenEmber> http://larryfire.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/plot-synopsis-for-stephen-kings-under-the-dome/
[05:26:52] <GreenEmber> that link wont parse :P
[05:26:59] <GreenEmber> it throws an error
[05:27:01] <GreenEmber> when it tries to
[05:27:11] <SpiderDave> parse with what?
[05:27:16] <GreenEmber> the url snarfer
[05:27:21] <GreenEmber> that comes up with the title
[05:27:34] <GreenEmber> the title contains a special character » and the bot cant handle that
[05:27:41] <GreenEmber> actually its «
[05:27:57] <SpiderDave> hmm
[05:28:12] <SpiderDave> &web title http://larryfire.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/plot-synopsis-for-stephen-kings-under-the-dome/
[05:28:13] <gribble> An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[05:28:17] <GreenEmber> told you
[05:28:19] <SpiderDave> &web title [urlquote http://larryfire.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/plot-synopsis-for-stephen-kings-under-the-dome/]
[05:28:20] <gribble> Error: 'http%3A//larryfire.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/plot-synopsis-for-stephen-kings-under-the-dome/' is not a valid http url.
[05:28:30] <SpiderDave> worth a shot
[05:28:39] <GreenEmber> ok my bot says no such command factoids
[05:29:04] <SpiderDave> Factoids is the plugin; try list factoids
[05:29:10] <SpiderDave> if not, then load Factoids
[05:29:24] <GreenEmber> @factoids learn made it say something
[05:29:25] <GreenEmber> lol
[05:33:40] <GreenEmber> SpiderDave: how do i change the learn seperator registry value?
[05:33:57] <SpiderDave> &search factoids
[05:33:58] <gribble> supybot.plugins.Factoids, supybot.plugins.Factoids.public, supybot.plugins.Factoids.learnSeparator, supybot.plugins.Factoids.showFactoidIfOnlyOneMatch, supybot.plugins.Factoids.replyWhenInvalidCommand, supybot.plugins.Factoids.replyApproximateSearchKeys, supybot.plugins.Factoids.format, supybot.plugins.Factoids.keepRankInfo, and supybot.plugins.Factoids.rankListLength
[05:34:16] <SpiderDave> &config supybot.plugins.Factoids.learnSeparator
[05:34:17] <gribble> Global: as; #supybot: as
[05:34:35] <SpiderDave> so you'd do "&config supybot.plugins.Factoids.learnSeparator newseparator"
[05:34:48] <GreenEmber> ooh
[05:35:03] <SpiderDave> you can also use config help to get help on a registry item
[05:35:32] <SpiderDave> &config help supybot.replies.success
[05:35:32] <gribble> Determines what message the bot replies with when a command succeeded. If this configuration variable is empty, no success message will be sent. (Current value: The operation succeeded.)
[05:35:46] <SpiderDave> there's one that you should change; the default is kind of boring
[05:37:26] <GreenEmber> yeah
[05:37:34] <GreenEmber> can i make it do an action?
[05:37:45] <GreenEmber> @config supybot.replies.success
[05:37:56] <GreenEmber> wrong chan :P
[05:40:10] <GreenEmber> SpiderDave: so factoids learn !ping is pong! should make it reply pong! when i say !ping?
[05:40:19] <GreenEmber> because its not working :|
[05:40:34] * GreenEmber goes back to reading the handboopk
[05:40:52] <SpiderDave> your separator is 'as' not 'is', but i'd have to play with it myself
[05:41:27] <GreenEmber> SpiderDave: well i changed it to is :P
[05:43:13] <GreenEmber> SpiderDave: according to that handbook from the link, i should be able to say !ping is <reply> pong! and it should work
[05:43:18] <GreenEmber> but it doesnt even repond to that
[05:43:19] <GreenEmber> heh
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[05:54:07] <SpiderDave> hmm i dunno if it's supposed to work that way
[05:55:03] <GreenEmber> SpiderDave: apparantly theres a way to make it behave that way :P
[05:55:10] <GreenEmber> ive seen it done
[05:55:27] <SpiderDave> what is your prefix character?
[05:55:32] <GreenEmber> @
[05:55:59] <SpiderDave> then you probably want to use the messageparser plugin if you're not using the character or nick to trigger a command
[05:56:08] <GreenEmber> oh
[05:56:12] <GreenEmber> how do I load that
[05:56:22] <GreenEmber> and will it stay loaded if i restart the bot?
[05:56:30] <SpiderDave> yeah
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[05:56:31] <SpiderDave> load MessageParser
[05:56:38] <SpiderDave> &list messageparser
[05:56:39] <gribble> add, info, list, lock, rank, remove, show, unlock, and vacuum
[05:56:50] <SpiderDave> &messageparser list
[05:56:50] <gribble> ",,(\w+)" (1),",,\(([^\)]*?)\)" (2),"^\)(.+)\s+\|\s+([\w\-\[\]\`^{}\|]+)" (3),"^(s/(.+)/(.*)/([gi]*))$" (4)
[05:57:06] <GreenEmber> SpiderDave: it says no such plugin
[05:57:19] <SpiderDave> hmm did you install standard supybot or gribble?
[05:57:24] <SpiderDave> or limnora
[05:57:27] <GreenEmber> spuybot
[05:57:28] <GreenEmber> supybot
[05:57:38] <SpiderDave> i think you need gribble actually
[05:57:53] <SpiderDave> gribble is a fork of supybot with some upgrades; personally i'd go with that
[05:58:12] <SpiderDave> limnoria has more stuff, like language support, but i had some trouble with it
[05:58:16] <GreenEmber> yeah but supybot is in the ubuntu repor :P
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[05:58:22] <SpiderDave> ic
[05:58:29] <GreenEmber> and im pretty sure ive seen it done with supybot
[05:58:34] <GreenEmber> like that link up top
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[05:58:40] <GreenEmber> look at its section on factoids
[05:58:43] <SpiderDave> i don't think messageparser works on normal supybot (but a lot of plugins do)
[05:58:55] <SpiderDave> yeah maybe there's something with factoids for it
[05:59:05] <GreenEmber> &list factoids
[05:59:06] <gribble> alias, change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, rank, search, unlock, and whatis
[05:59:24] <GreenEmber> how can you list the plugins
[05:59:29] <GreenEmber> list plugins?
[05:59:57] <SpiderDave> yep
[06:00:02] <SpiderDave> oh wait
[06:00:04] <SpiderDave> just list
[06:00:28] <GreenEmber> that only shows loaded ones though
[06:00:33] <GreenEmber> how do i list ones to load
[06:00:47] <SpiderDave> for that you'd have to look at the plugins folder
[06:03:29] <GreenEmber> oh i think i want moobot factoids
[06:03:35] <GreenEmber> &list
[06:03:35] <gribble> Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Conditional, Config, Debug, Dict, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Format, GPG, GPGExt, Games, Gatekeeper, Google, Herald, Internet, Later, Market, Math, MessageParser, Misc, Network, OTCOrderBook, Owner, Plugin, RSS, RatingSystem, Relay, Reply, Scheduler, Seen, Services, Status, String, Time, Topic, Unix, User, Utilities, (1 more message)
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[06:06:49] <GreenEmber> SpiderDave: ok so ive got it working sort of
[06:07:02] <GreenEmber> you have to say the bots name to get it to work though.... like every time
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[10:16:20] <Hoaas> GreenEmber: Might want to take a look at ,,(search whenAddressedBy)
[10:16:21] <gribble> supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy, supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.chars, supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.strings, supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.nick, supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.nick.atEnd, and supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.nicks
[10:17:11] <GreenEmber> i think it has something to do with the factoid plugin
[10:18:07] <Hoaas> oh, k :<
[10:18:20] <GreenEmber> idk i got mad at it cursed the bot out a few times and gave up
[10:18:41] <GreenEmber> the plugins need docs...
[10:27:30] <Hoaas> But .. it's so boring to write D:
[10:27:50] <GreenEmber> but i dont understand them
[10:28:29] <Hoaas> :D
[10:28:53] <Hoaas> Any special plugin that causes problems?
[10:30:59] <GreenEmber> yep
[10:31:02] <GreenEmber> factoids :P
[10:31:31] <Hoaas> kay
[10:31:35] <Hoaas> !list Factoids
[10:31:40] <Hoaas> urr
[10:31:45] <Hoaas> &list Factoids
[10:31:45] <GreenEmber> &list factoids
[10:31:45] <gribble> alias, change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, rank, search, unlock, and whatis
[10:31:46] <gribble> alias, change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, rank, search, unlock, and whatis
[10:31:51] <Hoaas> &search factoids
[10:31:52] <gribble> supybot.plugins.Factoids, supybot.plugins.Factoids.public, supybot.plugins.Factoids.learnSeparator, supybot.plugins.Factoids.showFactoidIfOnlyOneMatch, supybot.plugins.Factoids.replyWhenInvalidCommand, supybot.plugins.Factoids.replyApproximateSearchKeys, supybot.plugins.Factoids.format, supybot.plugins.Factoids.keepRankInfo, and supybot.plugins.Factoids.rankListLength
[10:32:00] <GreenEmber> ok
[10:32:05] <GreenEmber> that doesnt tell me how to use it
[10:32:06] <GreenEmber> lol
[10:32:17] <Hoaas> hm
[10:32:19] <Hoaas> &learn
[10:32:20] <gribble> Error: You don't have the factoids.learn capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[10:32:45] <Hoaas> right, k, anyway. First you do &learn something as this is very important or whatever
[10:32:51] <Hoaas> then you can do &something
[10:32:53] <Hoaas> and bam
[10:33:33] <GreenEmber> @ping
[10:33:36] <Hoaas> "as" is defined on &config supybot.plugins.Factoids.learnSeparator, incase you want to change that.
[10:33:41] <GreenEmber> &ping
[10:33:42] <gribble> pong
[10:34:28] <GreenEmber> yeah but in another channel their bot has factoids starting with ! but the prefix char for their bot is @
[10:34:37] <Hoaas> I see
[10:34:50] <GreenEmber> like you can do botname: !foo is <reply> bar
[10:34:55] <GreenEmber> and then you do !foo and it says bar
[10:35:26] <GreenEmber> idk how they did it tho
[10:35:52] <Hoaas> That is a bit harder!
[10:37:05] <Hoaas> ooh.
[10:37:08] <Hoaas> Perhaps
[10:37:15] <Hoaas> There is that MessageParser-plugin
[10:37:27] <Hoaas> that allows you to do ,,(echo hi)
[10:37:27] <gribble> hi
[10:37:31] <GreenEmber> yes someone mentioned that
[10:37:35] <GreenEmber> echo hi
[10:37:40] <GreenEmber> ,,(echo hi)
[10:37:41] <gribble> hi
[10:37:50] <Hoaas> &resources
[10:37:51] <gribble> Here's a nice page of supybot resources: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/gribble/index.php?title=Supybot_Resources || Please join us if you would like to help!
[10:38:37] <Hoaas> Can't remember how to use it D:
[10:38:40] <GreenEmber> any i can get all the plugins at once? :P
[10:39:17] <Hoaas> ?
[10:39:55] <GreenEmber> heh just being lazy
[10:40:37] <Hoaas> &whatis test
[10:40:38] <gribble> Error: No factoid matches that key.
[10:41:05] <GreenEmber> im too tired to think
[10:41:13] <Hoaas> I'm on to something here!
[10:42:01] <Hoaas> !foo is <reply> bar <- not quite sure how to fix that, but only !foo and get output should be ok
[10:42:32] <GreenEmber> if you look at the supybook thing it mentions it :P
[10:42:55] <Hoaas> messageparser add "!(\w+)" "whatis $1"
[10:42:56] <GreenEmber> doesnt mention how to do it though
[10:43:07] <Hoaas> That should make !something output the factoid for something :o
[10:43:29] <GreenEmber> but it would reply every time it sees !something
[10:43:34] <GreenEmber> factoid or not
[10:43:35] <GreenEmber> lol
[10:43:58] <GreenEmber> it would either say if it is or say error
[10:44:02] <Hoaas> config supybot.plugins.Factoids.replyWhenInvalidCommand false
[10:44:04] <Hoaas> bam
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[14:56:40] <Bombshell> i guess the answer is not but is it possible to create myself a new log level
[14:56:47] <Bombshell> it would be called DEVEL
[14:56:57] <Bombshell> and no, i do not want debug one for those things :/
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[15:26:03] <quantumlemur> Bombshell, it should be possible... you'd just have to edit log.py in the supybot core
[15:26:14] <quantumlemur> it might take a bit of care to make sure it's done right
[15:26:24] <quantumlemur> although also, there is already log.debug
[15:26:47] <Bombshell> yeah, but if i switch to DEBUG mode, i will sink in logs
[15:27:46] <quantumlemur> what I sometimes do is have a conf variable that toggles debug mode
[15:27:59] <quantumlemur> if it's turned on, it outputs lots of debug info, and if not it doesn't
[15:28:05] <quantumlemur> then just remove it before release
[15:29:39] <Bombshell> wait a second... i think i did not get that right
[15:29:54] <Bombshell> so i can raise debug callback at _any_ time
[15:30:34] <Bombshell> but the original debug config is there in case plugins exciplitly ask if its in debug?
[15:30:39] <Bombshell> hm... ill check it
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[18:35:53] <noob13> hey, if my plugin needs a file that is in the same directory as the script, can i somehow give it the path without using an absolute path?
[19:36:32] <Bombshell> not sure about the plugin
[19:37:01] <Bombshell> but you should be able to make a folder in your bots config files root
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[20:11:15] <SteelSide> iirc you can get the directory your plugin is in from supybot itself
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[20:17:11] <Bombshell> you can test it yourself
[20:17:26] <Bombshell> file.open('./test.txt')
[20:17:42] <Bombshell> make a different txt files in different dirs and check which one will it open
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[20:27:49] <ProgVal> why file.open() and not just open()?
[20:35:15] <Bombshell> will do the job too
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[20:38:01] <mbtez> can i use supybot to relay a queue of messages when someone speaks in an empty room and someone else comes in later
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[23:00:14] <Hoaas> hm. Are there a way to get commands in Alias to be ignored if there are other commands with the same name?
[23:00:28] <Hoaas> I have some users who are "abusing" alias. :<
[23:26:17] <Hoaas> Found bug in Factoids!
[23:27:40] <Hoaas> Hm. Not sure if that one have been changed.
[23:32:40] <Hoaas> Actually, can't get Factoids lock to work at all. :<
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[23:54:49] <kingkong> why my bot not answer to other people's Seen command in channel? it works with me only
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