October 16, 2010 
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October 16, 2010 [00:04:04] *** ProgVal has quit IRC[00:26:16] *** mren is now known as mren|off[01:28:08] *** zz_sailerboy is now known as sailerboy[01:52:26] *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC[01:57:09] *** Znuff has joined #supybot[01:57:11] <Znuff> Hi.[01:57:39] <Znuff> Is supybot still being mantained?[02:03:47] <eraserhead77> yes[02:05:33] <eraserhead77> the git has updates up until september 20...no idea when the next full version is coming[02:09:26] <Znuff> I miss the plugin website[02:09:41] <Znuff> this bot needs more community plugins :([02:13:42] <eraserhead77> theres a good page ;;resources that has links to a punch of community plugins[02:14:04] <eraserhead77> i forget how to use the gribble bot message parser[02:14:15] <Znuff> uh, where?[02:14:21] <eraserhead77> ,,resources[02:14:21] <gribble> Here's a nice page of supybot resources: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/gribble/index.php?title=Supybot_Resources || Please join us if you would like to help![02:14:25] <eraserhead77> there it goes[02:14:50] <eraserhead77> its not an overwhelming list...there could be many more, of course :)[02:15:25] <Znuff> Error 310 (net::ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS): There were too many redirects.[02:15:27] <Znuff> :-/[02:16:29] <eraserhead77> no idea, works for me[02:16:31] <eraserhead77> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/gribble/index.php?title=Supybot_Resources[02:19:17] <Znuff> you logged in?[02:19:21] <Znuff> on sf.net?[02:19:53] <eraserhead77> no[02:20:01] <Znuff> I am, with a google account[02:20:07] <Znuff> mkay, logged out works[02:20:15] *** Gallion has joined #supybot[02:20:38] <eraserhead77> hm, issue for nanotube, i guess[02:20:42] <Gallion> any reason why supybot would be slow to respond?[02:20:44] <eraserhead77> see above nanotube :)[02:21:24] <Gallion> it gets the commands right away that I can see from the console but it takes a lot of time to process them[02:27:41] *** ktabic has quit IRC[02:36:03] *** Gallion has quit IRC[02:58:27] *** RichardG has quit IRC[02:59:21] *** RichardG has joined #supybot[03:07:32] *** Paradox has joined #supybot[03:07:40] <Paradox> does google .calc work for anyone anymore?[03:52:34] <eraserhead77> still works for me[03:53:12] *** Steve57 has joined #supybot[04:00:33] *** Znuff has quit IRC[04:08:59] <Paradox> derp[04:09:02] <Paradox> ah well[04:09:02] *** Paradox has left #supybot[04:19:38] *** Weedy_lappy has joined #supybot[04:20:35] *** Tacos has joined #supybot[04:23:37] *** sailerboy_ has joined #supybot[04:25:11] *** brad` has joined #supybot[04:25:13] *** brad has quit IRC[04:25:13] *** XSlicer has quit IRC[04:25:14] *** sailerboy has quit IRC[04:25:14] *** Weedy has quit IRC[04:25:14] *** Tucos has quit IRC[04:25:14] *** Weedy_lappy is now known as Weedy[04:25:19] *** XSlicer has joined #supybot[04:55:06] *** SteelSide has quit IRC[06:13:20] *** fossrox has quit IRC[08:36:01] *** mizerydearia has joined #supybot[08:38:32] *** necrodearia has quit IRC[08:41:12] *** mizerydearia has quit IRC[08:45:01] *** Gallion has joined #supybot[08:45:29] <Gallion> I just found that supybot becomes very laggy when disabling the invalid command flood protection[08:46:35] <Gallion> should I report this?[08:47:31] *** ProgVal has joined #supybot[08:48:52] *** SteelSide has joined #supybot[09:16:08] *** meGenius has joined #supybot[09:18:07] <ProgVal> Hi[09:18:18] <ProgVal> I've a question : should I internationalize strings given to irc.log.X() ?[09:22:20] <Gallion> Which file do I have to edit to edit @help, @list and @commands ?[09:25:10] <ProgVal> &plugin help[09:25:11] <gribble> (plugin help <plugin>) -- Returns a useful description of how to use <plugin>, if the plugin has one.[09:25:16] <ProgVal> mmh[09:25:19] <ProgVal> &plugin plugin help[09:25:19] <gribble> (plugin plugin help <plugin>) -- Returns a useful description of how to use <plugin>, if the plugin has one.[09:25:38] <ProgVal> &plugin plugin list[09:25:38] <gribble> Admin, Alias, Anonymous, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Conditional, Config, Debug, Dict, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Format, Games, Google, Internet, Later, MarketMonitor, Math, MessageParser, Misc, MtgoxMonitor, Network, Note, Owner, Plugin, RSS, Relay, Reply, Scheduler, Seen, Services, Status, String, Time, Topic, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web[09:25:45] <ProgVal> &plugin plugin plugin list[09:25:45] <gribble> Admin, Alias, Anonymous, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Conditional, Config, Debug, Dict, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Format, Games, Google, Internet, Later, MarketMonitor, Math, MessageParser, Misc, MtgoxMonitor, Network, Note, Owner, Plugin, RSS, Relay, Reply, Scheduler, Seen, Services, Status, String, Time, Topic, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web[09:25:47] <ProgVal> fail[09:25:50] <ProgVal> so[09:26:14] <Gallion> I'd like to make it into something that looks more like the help commands of anope services[09:26:40] <ProgVal> @help @help are in Plugin[09:26:51] <ProgVal> @help and @list are in Plugin*[09:27:20] <ProgVal> @commands doesn't exist[09:27:41] <Gallion> it does[09:27:59] <Gallion> it sure does lol I use it.. and it's not something I added myself[09:28:01] <ProgVal> What's your bot nick ?[09:28:10] <Gallion> XvORTOR but it's not here[09:28:14] <Gallion> it's on another network[09:29:17] <ProgVal> Can you run "@plugin plugin commands" ?[09:29:58] <Gallion> [03:29:50] <XvORTOR> Visitor_099: The "commands" command is available in the Status plugin.[09:30:12] <Gallion> I seeeee :)[09:30:18] <Gallion> so in the status plugin[09:30:25] <ProgVal> yep[09:31:02] <Gallion> thank[09:31:02] <Gallion> :)[09:35:41] <Gallion> +s[09:37:40] *** GMP has quit IRC[09:37:45] *** GMP has joined #supybot[09:47:24] *** Steve57 has quit IRC[09:49:26] *** Steve57 has joined #supybot[10:00:18] *** Gallion has quit IRC[10:50:05] *** Trillian has quit IRC[10:52:16] *** Trillian has joined #supybot[12:04:20] *** Tacos is now known as Tucos[12:29:09] *** KenjiE20 has joined #supybot[13:12:35] <Hoaas> Any way I can make my bot reread config.py for a spesific plugin? (without restarting it)[13:14:10] <ProgVal> &help Config reload[13:14:10] <gribble> (config reload takes no arguments) -- Reloads the various configuration files (user database, channel database, registry, etc.).[13:15:15] <Hoaas> Heh. :| *feels stupid*[13:15:20] <Hoaas> Thanks.[13:19:19] <ProgVal> no problem[13:19:44] *** brad` is now known as brad[13:44:26] *** fossrox has joined #supybot[13:47:35] *** ktabic has joined #supybot[13:53:52] *** Benwa has joined #supybot[13:56:25] <Hoaas> Hm.[13:58:02] *** Maleko has joined #supybot[14:00:31] <ProgVal> what ?[14:08:10] *** Gallion has joined #supybot[14:09:08] <Gallion> what do you guys use to host your bot if you don't host it locally?[14:11:29] <ProgVal> I use the dedicated server of a friend[14:12:00] <ProgVal> You can try shellium.org ; Supybot is already installed there[14:23:21] <Gallion> o_o[14:23:25] <Gallion> SEXYYYY it's fre?![14:23:27] <Gallion> free*[14:23:56] <Gallion> wow[14:24:00] <Gallion> *jumps on it*[14:25:09] <Gallion> hey wow thanks this is bloody awesome o_o[14:37:15] <Gallion> aw.. I need to have people approve.... is there anything else I could pay for, yet isn't too expensive?[14:38:17] <Gallion> like would any shell account for around $4/month do it?[14:45:16] <Steve57> i've often wondered that also. but i'd prefer to have my own build on it[14:46:49] <Gallion> dedicated server sure is too expensive for me[14:48:04] <Steve57> yeah... and sort of pointless for a lot of us, i think[14:57:05] <Gallion> I'll make a donation on shellium and see what happens[14:57:24] <Gallion> cannot be bad to have a shell account there forever for a $20 donation[15:19:05] <Maleko> how do you prevent supy from auto op/voice users?[15:33:58] *** ProgVal has quit IRC[15:39:18] *** Exavion has quit IRC[15:43:16] *** Nwab has joined #supybot[15:44:30] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[15:45:00] *** Benwa has quit IRC[15:45:02] <Gallion> shiet[15:46:06] *** Nwab is now known as Benwa[15:49:31] *** Steve57 has quit IRC[15:50:40] *** Steve57 has joined #supybot[16:02:10] *** Steve57 has quit IRC[16:02:33] <ziplock> I use and love linode.com for hosting my supybot and other things... fast service, affordable, up/downgradable on the fly[16:03:49] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[16:04:13] *** Steve57 has joined #supybot[16:10:11] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[16:17:48] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[16:22:02] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[16:26:16] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[16:30:41] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[16:33:35] *** Nwab has joined #supybot[16:36:02] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[16:36:19] *** Benwa has quit IRC[16:37:29] *** Nwab is now known as Benwa[16:43:21] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[16:44:55] *** Steve57 has quit IRC[16:46:42] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[16:51:35] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[16:52:03] <Gallion> aw damn[16:52:20] <Gallion> http://wiki.shellium.org/w/Supybot > Supybot is known to use a lot of resources, so you probably will be locked if use Supybot.[16:52:20] <Gallion> :/[16:55:07] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[16:56:03] <beo_> $2.95 for shell at xzibition[16:57:50] <beo_> dunno about python support[17:02:17] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[17:03:35] <Gallion> yep it's supported[17:03:36] <Gallion> :)[17:06:25] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[17:10:32] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[17:16:21] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[17:19:44] <Gallion> hm well it down run under 15mb on my comp[17:19:46] <Gallion> it should be okay[17:19:51] <Gallion> does*[17:25:07] *** Nwab has joined #supybot[17:25:37] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[17:27:04] *** Benwa has quit IRC[17:27:15] *** Nwab is now known as Benwa[17:28:15] <Hoaas> So, what do people do with non-ascii characters in python?[17:28:29] <Hoaas> I can't quite seem to find a solution to my problem :|[17:29:06] <Hoaas> I get some text over http, and it contains some strange symbols like ® or whatever, and bam:[17:29:09] <Hoaas> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 663: ordinal not in range(128)[17:29:12] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[17:29:50] <Hoaas> Everywhere I look I see "Use string.encode('utf8')", but that only give that same error :|[17:31:17] <quantumlemur> check out http://farmdev.com/talks/unicode/[17:31:30] <quantumlemur> for a good overview of unicode in python[17:32:11] <Hoaas> Think I've seen that before![17:38:40] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[17:43:15] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[17:47:31] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[17:51:14] *** ProgVal has joined #supybot[17:51:44] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[17:52:16] <Hoaas> I don't understand it, but I managed to get the error to go away![17:54:50] <Gallion> \o$[17:54:51] <Gallion> \o/[18:01:18] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[18:06:11] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[18:10:59] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[18:14:40] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[18:16:54] *** Nwab has joined #supybot[18:17:56] *** Benwa has quit IRC[18:18:02] *** Nwab is now known as Benwa[18:19:08] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[18:24:33] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[18:27:16] *** nailuj24 has joined #supybot[18:28:46] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[18:33:01] 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inactivity?[20:53:51] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[20:53:57] *** Nwab has quit IRC[20:57:42] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[21:01:47] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[21:06:08] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[21:10:24] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[21:14:25] <quantumlemur> Azelphur, what exactly do you mean 'logging out'?[21:14:37] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[21:14:47] <quantumlemur> are you wondering about becoming un-identified with the bot?[21:14:49] <Azelphur> quantumlemur: supybot has a login system, you identify with the bot right?[21:14:51] <Azelphur> yea[21:14:59] <quantumlemur> well, you'll stay identified until you quit[21:15:11] <Azelphur> but how can the bot detect if you quit if your only in a query with it?[21:15:17] <quantumlemur> QUIT messages are broadcast network-wide[21:15:32] <Azelphur> not if your not in the channel with the person?[21:15:44] <quantumlemur> they're sent everywhere[21:15:56] <quantumlemur> ...90% sure :P[21:16:29] <Azelphur> just checked using xchat's raw log[21:16:30] <Azelphur> they arn't[21:16:54] <Azelphur> IRC clients would be very resource heavy on networks like freenode if you received quit events from everyone, even people who arn't in the same channels as you[21:17:28] <quantumlemur> hmm, yeah, you're right, they aren't[21:17:36] * quantumlemur is testing things[21:17:49] <Azelphur> hehe, I'm curious as I'm writing my own bot, wondering how supy does it[21:18:25] <Azelphur> (I do use supy too, there's just complicated reasons why I have to not use supy which is why I'm writing my own)[21:19:03] <quantumlemur> hmm, yeah, I'm not sure[21:19:24] <quantumlemur> if you send a PM, the network doesn't 'remember' that, and send you a quit message[21:19:35] <quantumlemur> but my client displays quit messages in private queries[21:19:41] <quantumlemur> so I'm not really sure how it finds out[21:20:14] <Azelphur> quantumlemur: the quit message your client displays may well be garnished because you share a channel with the person *Shrug*[21:20:22] <quantumlemur> hmm[21:20:33] <quantumlemur> yeah, maybe[21:21:00] <quantumlemur> other than that, the only thing I can think is periodic services querying[21:22:42] <Azelphur> or just staling the login after inactivity lol[21:23:48] <quantumlemur> I don't think that it would do that[21:23:51] <quantumlemur> but...[21:23:56] <quantumlemur> hotnames are /supposed/ to be unique[21:24:20] <quantumlemur> so maybe it just remembers your hostname until it stops running?[21:24:50] <Azelphur> logged in forever xD[21:26:39] <Azelphur> quantumlemur: well, I just "spoofed" a session[21:26:48] <Azelphur> so supy doesn't detect if you disconnect while your in a query with it[21:27:25] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/tEuDsgUw[21:27:53] <quantumlemur> interesting[21:27:55] <quantumlemur> makes sense, though[21:28:11] <Azelphur> yea, I'll hang about inactive and see if it stales the session[21:31:15] *** Out`Of`Control has quit IRC[21:32:14] <Azelphur> quantumlemur: hehe, I changed my nick and it didn't recognize me any more :)[21:32:28] <Azelphur> changed my nick back and it recognizes me again[21:37:54] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[21:41:03] *** marfin has joined #supybot[21:41:16] <marfin> How do you stop the bot replying to invalid commands?[21:41:21] <marfin> I can't remember the plugin[21:42:28] <marfin> Ah, factoids[21:42:29] *** marfin has left #supybot[21:43:37] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[21:43:52] *** Nwab has joined #supybot[21:45:49] *** Benwa-Ktm has quit IRC[21:45:53] *** marfin has joined #supybot[21:45:55] <marfin> D; it's not[21:47:07] <Gallion> supybot.reply.whenNotCommand: True[21:47:14] <Gallion> set to False[21:48:40] <marfin> SUCCESS[21:48:45] <marfin> thank you Gallion :)[21:48:47] *** marfin has left #supybot[21:50:31] *** sailerboy_ is now known as sailerboy[21:54:54] *** DJ_HiP has quit IRC[22:00:19] *** DJ_HiP has joined #supybot[22:01:27] *** Nwab is now known as Benwa[22:01:37] *** Out`Of`Control has joined #supybot[22:07:08] *** DJ_HiP 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