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[01:51:03] <nanotube> roe: hey so i see you closed that gmt bug - i take it you figured out what was the deal?
[01:53:43] <zangetsu> hi nanotube ;)
[01:58:56] <nanotube> zangetsu: o/ :)
[01:59:04] <zangetsu> how are you?
[02:02:27] <nanotube> passably well. :) you?
[02:03:44] <zangetsu> i'am fine thanks
[02:05:12] <nanotube> :)
[02:07:30] <zangetsu> can you remember me your supybot's reference, please?
[02:07:48] <nanotube> you mean the documentation hub?
[02:08:04] <zangetsu> yes
[02:08:10] <nanotube> ah, ok ,,resources
[02:08:11] <gribble> Here's a nice page of supybot resources: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/gribble/index.php?title=Supybot_Resources || Please join us if you would like to help!
[02:08:15] <zangetsu> thanks :P
[02:08:16] <nanotube> there you go, zangetsu :)
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[02:19:34] <JeroenzKlompz> hi's, i want to turn off a plugin, in this case the one which shows the title etc of a site when someone's pasting an url in the channel
[02:20:20] <zangetsu> nanotube: i write my config.py of my plugin and run reload plugin, but if i search with conf search myvar the var don't exist..why?
[02:20:31] <JeroenzKlompz> question, where are all those plugin's stored? and what's the name of the plugin i mentioned, i guess i have to type unload plugin
[02:20:48] <JeroenzKlompz> im running ubuntu btw
[02:21:10] <zangetsu> jenkinbr:  supybot/plugins is the directory
[02:21:10] <nanotube> zangetsu: when you change config.py, you have to restart the whole bot. just reloading plugin doesn't work.
[02:21:41] <nanotube> JeroenzKlompz: the plugin is probably "web"... and you don't need to know where it's stored, just use the ,,unload command.
[02:21:41] <gribble> (unload <plugin>) -- Unloads the callback by name; use the 'list' command to see a list of the currently loaded callbacks. Obviously, the Owner plugin can't be unloaded.
[02:21:59] <zangetsu> thanks ;)
[02:22:18] <JeroenzKlompz> thanks nanotube
[02:23:01] <nanotube> np y'all :)
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[02:40:32] <zangetsu> nanotube:  i don't understanding how i get a globalValue with conf.get()
[02:40:54] <zangetsu> conf.supybot.MyPluginName.MyVarName
[02:40:59] <zangetsu> don't work
[02:41:36] <nanotube> it's conf.supybot.plugins.mypluginname
[02:41:40] <nanotube> (note the .plugins)
[02:41:59] <zangetsu> ops
[02:42:01] <zangetsu> sorry
[02:42:50] <Algabe> nanotube: como hago para que el ChannelLogger se guarde por fecha
[02:43:22] 
[02:43:32] <Algabe> por que se guarda en un solo doc
[02:43:40] <nanotube> Algabe: ,,(config search rotatelogs)
[02:43:40] <gribble> supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger.rotateLogs
[02:43:48] <nanotube> Algabe: --^ fija eso a 'true'
[02:44:01] <nanotube> ;;config help supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger.rotateLogs
[02:44:01] <gribble> Determines whether the bot will automatically rotate the logs for this channel. The bot will rotate logs when the timestamp for the log changes. The timestamp is set according to the 'filenameTimestamp' configuration variable.  (Current value: True)
[02:44:05] <Algabe> config supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger.rotateLogs true ?
[02:44:13] <nanotube> si
[02:44:35] <Algabe> es que me lo guarda en un solo doc
[02:44:44] 
[02:44:54] <nanotube> si, 'rotatelogs' va a hacerlo
[02:45:06] <Algabe> ok nanotube gracias :D
[02:45:15] <nanotube> de nada ;)
[02:45:28] <Algabe> puedo visualizarlos pero es local
[02:45:38] <Algabe> quiero que todos puedan tener accesso al log
[02:46:02] <nanotube> en ese caso, tienes que usar algun webserver como apache para servirlos en web
[02:46:28] <Algabe> pues tengo instalado apache
[02:46:34] <Algabe> pero el webserver no lo tengo
[02:47:40] <nanotube> mmm cual server usas para tu bot?
[02:47:52] <Algabe> nanotube: no tengo server :(
[02:48:01] <Algabe> quiero subirlo a uno para no tenerlo aqui en mi pc
[02:48:32] <nanotube> mmm pues, cuando tienes un servidor, puedes servir el bot y los logs :)
[02:48:43] <Algabe> si
[02:48:49] <Algabe> pero no se a que server subirlo
[02:48:55] <Algabe> todos son de paga
[02:49:06] <nanotube> tal vez shellium.org?
[02:49:22] <nanotube> shellium te da una cuenta de shell gratiz
[02:49:24] <Algabe> pues jamas supe como subirlo ahi
[02:49:34] <Algabe> tengo la cuenta
[02:49:38] <Algabe> me registre
[02:49:45] <nanotube> mmm pregunta en #shellium... :) yo no los uso
[02:50:03] 
[02:50:34] <nanotube> heh... usa google translate? :)
[02:50:52] <Algabe> buena idea
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[02:53:45] <Algabe> Algabe doesn't currently have any vouches.
[02:53:49] <Algabe> me dijeron eso
[02:54:17] <Algabe> Algabe: already have shell?
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[03:16:32] <zangetsu> uhmn
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[03:30:08] <JeroenzKlompz> k, im about to ask a dumb question, i think, but if i dont ask i wont know
[03:30:28] <JeroenzKlompz> i got a tcl script, trvia to be exact, can supybot use it?
[03:30:35] <JeroenzKlompz> *trivia
[03:33:06] <zangetsu> no, supybot is written in python
[03:33:27] <nanotube> JeroenzKlompz: unless you make a custom interface between your tcl script and a python supy plugin... you can't just drop it in
[03:33:43] <JeroenzKlompz> a custom interface
[03:34:03] <JeroenzKlompz> is that something a huge n00b, like me, can fix?
[03:34:48] <nanotube> JeroenzKlompz: haha probably not.
[03:35:04] <nanotube> your best bet may be to look for an existing supybot trivia plugin
[03:35:16] <nanotube> s/probably not/probably not unless you know python/
[03:35:16] <gribble> What nanotube meant to say was: JeroenzKlompz: haha probably not unless you know python.
[03:35:39] <JeroenzKlompz> i guessed something like that, lol
[03:35:46] <nanotube> heh
[03:36:24] <zangetsu> nanotube:  i need help with converter and context.. maybe
[03:36:24] <JeroenzKlompz> but the trivia i found is exactly what i wanted, so i guess i have to find be a, very esay, tcl bot
[03:36:56] <JeroenzKlompz> any tips b4 i go google?
[03:37:05] <zangetsu>     unmute = wrap(unmute_nick, [('haveOp', 'i need a op!'), optional('nickInChannel'), 'something'])
[03:37:05] <zangetsu>     ^unmute channel <nick or mask>
[03:37:08] <nanotube> eggdrop does tcl, JeroenzKlompz
[03:37:20] <JeroenzKlompz> k
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[03:40:35] <JeroenzKlompz> k, maybe this, i knew a bot that talked sometimes back, reacted on what people said, lotta times it made hardly any sense, but it was funny
[03:40:36] <gribble> <jamessan@oftc> isn't there a trivia plugin linked on ,,resources?
[03:40:37] <gribble> <gribble@oftc> Here's a nice page of supybot resources: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/gribble/index.php?title=Supybot_Resources || Please join us if you would like to help!
[03:40:48] <JeroenzKlompz> something like that for supybot?
[03:41:19] <gribble> <jamessan@oftc> there's the Markov plugin.  it can act like that, but you're probably thinking of something like megahal
[03:41:32] <nanotube> hey jamessan! ltns. :)
[03:42:02] <gribble> <jamessan@oftc> yeah, been mega busy with school.  Algorithms is taking up a lot of time
[03:43:15] <nanotube> mm i bet. :)
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[04:01:46] <zangetsu> def nickInChannel(irc, msg, args, state): what is state?
[04:02:06] <zangetsu> irc.state don't seems work
[04:02:12] <zangetsu> AttributeError: 'IrcState' object has no attribute 'args'
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[05:30:53] <FFForever> Is there a simple way to do a text search during all messages for /r/xxxxxxx and respond with a link to http://reddit.com/r/xxxxxxx
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[05:32:47] <FFForever> I know about .find but I am not sure how to write a plugin without requiring it to be {cmd chr}{cmd}
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[12:16:48] <Abdur> hi ProgVal :)
[12:18:58] <ProgVal> hi
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[12:19:32] <Abdur> ProgVal i don't understand how to make bot on windows pls help me
[12:19:58] <ProgVal> You don't have to make the bot
[12:20:31] <ProgVal> more over, running Supybot on GNU/Linux or on *BSD is better than running it on Windows
[12:20:31] <Abdur> then what i need to do?
[12:20:37] <Abdur> oh..
[12:20:42] <Abdur> but i like windows
[12:20:46] <ProgVal> you just have to read the INSTALL file
[12:20:53] <Abdur> i read it many times
[12:20:59] <Abdur> but i don't understand
[12:22:02] <Abdur> can you tell me?
[12:22:09] <Abdur> step by step
[12:22:34] <Abdur> plssssss
[12:23:55] <ProgVal> didn't I already did that ?
[12:25:24] <Abdur> hm.....
[12:25:30] <Abdur> but
[12:25:40] <Abdur> i can't make bot
[12:26:46] <Abdur> can you give me images of installing bot ?
[12:27:51] <ProgVal> 1. You already have the image. It is what you downloaded
[12:27:55] <ProgVal> 2. I don't use Windows
[12:28:12] <Abdur> hm... where i can download unix ?
[12:28:40] <Abdur> and how much size of unix?
[12:29:03] <ProgVal> I do not use either Unix
[12:29:44] <Abdur> what you use?
[12:29:57] <ProgVal> I use Debian GNU/Linux
[12:29:59] <ProgVal> If you never used any libre operating system, I suggest you Ubuntu
[12:30:21] <Abdur> now what is Ubuntu
[12:30:42] <ProgVal> It is a GNU/Linux distribution
[12:30:53] <ProgVal> GNU/Linux is a libre operating system
[12:31:01] <Abdur> liber = ?
[12:31:13] <ProgVal> something like free
[12:31:22] <ProgVal> it means free, as in freedom
[12:31:23] <Abdur> :)
[12:31:33] <ProgVal> not as in "free beer"
[12:31:44] <Abdur> where i can download Linux ?
[12:32:00] <ProgVal> don't download Linux, download Ubuntu
[12:32:16] * Tucos was tempted to give him kernel.org ^^
[12:32:21] <Abdur> http://www.ubuntu.com/ ?
[12:32:21] <ProgVal> +1 Tucos
[12:32:24] <ProgVal> yep
[12:32:29] <Abdur> :)
[12:32:43] <Abdur> wow looking very nice
[12:32:47] <ProgVal> Linux is unusable without the GNU tools ; and the better way to get them is to get a distribution
[12:32:51] <Abdur> can i install two os at once ?
[12:32:54] <ProgVal> a GNU/Linux distribution*
[12:33:11] <ProgVal> Abdur~> a GNU/Linux distribution contains Linux, GNU, and some other software
[12:33:25] <Abdur> oh...
[12:33:33] <Abdur> ok :)
[12:33:51] <ProgVal> A new major version of Ubuntu will be out in a week
[12:34:09] <Abdur> wow
[12:34:10] <ProgVal> the current version in a LTS (some king of "over-major" version)
[12:34:16] <Abdur> 686 MB
[12:34:16] <ProgVal> kind*
[12:34:20] <ProgVal> yep
[12:34:28] <ProgVal> Welcome in the world of libre software !
[12:34:30] <Abdur> can you give me torrent file my conection is unstable
[12:34:39] <Abdur> thanks ProgVal
[12:35:21] <ProgVal> If you never heared about libre, you don't know it is totally free
[12:35:44] <Abdur> i am very new in liber software
[12:36:25] <Abdur> can i download this file http://extratorrent.com/torrent/2225804/Ubuntu+10.04+LTS+Desktop+Edition+Final+(i386).html  ?
[12:36:56] <ProgVal> Er
[12:37:02] <ProgVal> Download the official torrent
[12:37:03] <Abdur> er = ?
[12:37:13] <Abdur> whee i can find official torrent ?
[12:37:20] <ProgVal> on the official site =D
[12:37:26] <Abdur> :)
[12:37:42] <ProgVal> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.1/ubuntu-10.04.1-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[12:37:53] <ProgVal> er
[12:37:53] <Abdur> thanks
[12:37:54] <ProgVal> stop
[12:38:01] <Abdur> what i stop ?
[12:38:02] <ProgVal> this one : http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.1/ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[12:38:05] <Abdur> ok
[12:38:34] <Abdur> wow
[12:38:39] <Abdur> thanks a lot
[12:38:45] <ProgVal> no problem
[12:38:46] <Abdur> 1452 seeds
[12:38:49] <Abdur> :)
[12:39:02] <Abdur> this one will download very soon :)
[12:39:22] <ProgVal> it is a 100% legal torrent, so, you don't take any risk in seeding, that's why there is a lot of people
[12:39:42] <Abdur> :)
[12:40:19] <Abdur> current speed : 60 KB/s
[12:42:20] <Abdur> very soon i will celebrate my 1st year of chatting
[12:42:25] <Abdur> :)
[12:42:35] <Abdur> Jun 06 10:36:44 2010 UTC
[12:42:57] <Abdur> i come on 6th jun
[12:44:06] <Abdur> jan *
[12:44:42] <Abdur> :)
[12:44:44] <Abdur> oops
[12:44:49] <Abdur> load shading time
[12:44:50] <Abdur> :)
[12:45:10] <Abdur> see you ProgVal
[12:45:13] <Abdur> take care
[12:45:18] <Abdur> bye bye
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[14:04:20] <ProgVal> how to get the directory containing a given plugin ?
[14:04:39] <ProgVal> for example, I want my code to display where is Praise
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[14:25:54] <Warlord> how do i get ipv6 to work?
[14:38:49] <ProgVal> try the Twisted driver
[14:40:17] <ProgVal> &config help supybot.drivers.module
[14:40:17] <gribble> Determines what driver module the bot will use. Socket, a simple driver based on timeout sockets, is used by default because it's simple and stable. Twisted is very stable and simple, and if you've got Twisted installed, is probably your best bet.  Valid strings: default, Socket, and Twisted.  (Current value: Twisted)
[14:43:39] <Warlord> how do i load it tho?
[15:30:33] <aa_> Warlord: set the value and restart the bot, it is in the core fabric
[15:30:52] <aa_> Warlord: i.e. you can't hotwitch them
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[16:55:02] <ProgVal> How to get the directory of a (loaded) plugin from a file located in src/utils/ ?
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[17:00:39] <themill> ProgVal: module.__file__ should have that. But that sort of reflection isn't normally liked by the python people. It's somehow "dirty".
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[18:02:16] <nanotube> heh, it's there, so that means it's liked. :P
[18:09:16] <ProgVal> what is here ?
[18:09:23] <ProgVal> there*
[18:16:12] <nanotube> the module.__file__
[18:23:05] <ProgVal> ok
[18:25:05] <ProgVal> I am trying to internationalize Supybot
[18:25:12] <ProgVal> difficult -_-
[18:26:57] <themill> I presume you've spoken to the upstream developers about this? I'd be surprised if they didn't already have some ideas about how this can/should be done.
[18:27:14] <ProgVal> themill~> I spoke to them
[18:27:24] <ProgVal> but I was speaking alone
[18:27:25] <ProgVal> =D
[18:27:42] <ProgVal> They don't have a lot of time to spend in Supybot
[18:27:46] <ProgVal> They just fix bugs
[18:27:59] <themill> that doesn't mean they don't want it to improve and don't have ideas about how to do things
[18:28:44] <ProgVal> They don't answer to the feature requests
[18:28:50] <ProgVal> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=58965&atid=489450
[18:32:35] <themill> ProgVal: making a feature request and saying "I'm going to actually do the work can you guide me in doing so" are completely different things.
[18:32:58] <ProgVal> yes, I know
[18:33:11] <ProgVal> but they don't say anything like "will be done", or "refused"
[18:35:11] <themill> ProgVal: you've already established that supybot is low priority *for them to do it*. But *you* are doing things right now and that will get their attention. See how much stuff nanotube (and others here) have had incorporated into supybot git recently. When *you* are doing the work, it doesn't matter that it's low priority for other people to do work -- but you do need to coordinate your work with them.
[18:35:52] <themill> And i18n/l10n for supybot shouldn't be that hard at all. Time consuming: yes. Difficult: no.
[18:36:51] <themill> Also note that the sf.net interface is a pain in the arse to deal with. It's excessively difficult to just quickly say "ack" or "nice idea" etc on the trackers.
[18:38:44] <ProgVal> yep
[18:56:06] <nanotube> themill: well... it's not /that/ difficult... but you have to log in to sf :)
[18:56:29] <themill> nanotube: it's slow and tedious enough that I usually try not to.
[18:56:36] <nanotube> ProgVal: your best bet is to catch up with finch or jamessan and talk about doing i18n stuff
[18:57:12] <nanotube> themill: hehe ... mmm is there any other tracker that's faster to post replies to? like... you can say, email to a specified email address, and it'll get posted, or something?
[18:58:10] <themill> nanotube: the debian bts does that. And there's a command line utility (bts) that allows for this sort of manipulation. It's also not nearly as slow to load pages. I think that's what got me down with the sf.net one... the speed of it.
[18:58:25] <ProgVal> nanotube~> Anyway, I someone has to do it. So, I do it, I'll submit them my code, and they'll accept it or not
[18:58:39] <ProgVal> s/I someone/someone
[18:58:47] <nanotube> ProgVal: sounds like a plan. make sure to work off the latest git, not the release.
[18:58:49] <themill> (http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bts fwiw)
[18:59:22] <nanotube> themill: ah nice. :) well sf has actually gotten quite a bit faster lately.... at least for me
[18:59:23] <ProgVal> nanotube~> yep
[18:59:26] <themill> ProgVal: making sure that you're going to follow an approach that is acceptable before investing a lot of time in it is a good idea.
[18:59:44] <nanotube> themill: there was a time when it was really very slow
[18:59:48] <ProgVal> themill~> my work is based on gettext
[18:59:52] <themill> nanotube: yeah, I noticed that ProgVal's link opened up much faster than I had previously seen
[18:59:58] <themill> ProgVal: that's an excellent start :)
[19:00:38] <ProgVal> I just rewrite the parsing of the file
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[20:01:10] <gribble> <jamessan@oftc> ProgVal: i18ning supybot is something I've wanted to do for a while, so if you can put together a well written branch that implements it, I'd definitely merge it :)
[20:03:02] <gribble> <jamessan@oftc> ProgVal: if you fork the project on gitorious, it'll be easier to provide feedback on what you're doing
[20:10:18] <gribble> <jamessan@oftc> ProgVal: as others mentioned, Supybot's a low priority for me (and I have less time now since I just started a new semester at school) but I do merge patches and will provide guidance where I can.
[20:11:12] <gribble> <jamessan@oftc> addressing bugs is a higher priority, which is why I've been acting on your bug reports fairly quickly
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[20:23:18] <ProgVal> jamessan: I am just working on a module called utils.i18n (the name may be changed), that provides a _() function, to translate strings from the module
[20:23:48] <ProgVal> So, the only thing to do is to add i18n.py (when it'll be finished), and then, edit all the plugins
[20:25:10] <ProgVal> there won't be major edits to do, just the __init__.py and to "encapsulate" the strings in _()
[20:25:10] <ProgVal> (I think ; I am not very familiar with the __init__ mechanism
[20:25:10] <ProgVal> )
[20:25:18] <ProgVal> brb
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[20:53:56] <gribble> <CIA-3@oftc> jamessan supybot:0.83.4 * rv0.83.4.1-201-g26a458b /plugins/Services/plugin.py: Services: Correct formatting of "isn't registered" log. http://supybot.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=supybot/supybot;a=commit;h=cb48912db6d3dec473d73f1cfa3754547034896f
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[21:35:02] <ProgVal> hi back
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[22:22:53] <beo_> how to make supybot ignore every command in given channels?
[22:23:05] <beo_> like, not respond
[22:23:15] <ProgVal> &help lobotomy add
[22:23:15] <gribble> (lobotomy add [<channel>]) -- If you have the #channel,op capability, this will "lobotomize" the bot, making it silent and unanswering to all requests made in the channel. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
[22:25:45] <beo_> ah i see, thank you
[22:25:56] <ProgVal> np
[22:25:57] <beo_> i was teseting it as owner, so i thought it doesnt work
[22:26:24] <ProgVal> every command should work for an owner
[22:26:30] <ProgVal> it works for me
[22:26:58] <beo_> yeah
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