November 28, 2007 
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November 28, 2007 [00:24:09] *** tombs has joined #supybot[00:58:51] *** tonyyarusso has joined #supybot[01:07:59] *** mkanat has joined #supybot[01:35:31] *** tombs has quit IRC[01:39:13] *** ManageBot has joined #supybot[01:41:35] *** SudoKing has joined #supybot[01:41:58] <SudoKing> How do I configure supybot to identify before joining channels? =)[01:43:41] <Enqlave> SudoKing: can you supybot set the bans?[01:43:48] <Enqlave> i have some problem with it[01:43:59] <SudoKing> yea[01:44:08] <Enqlave> hm?[01:44:13] <Enqlave> who did you do it?[01:44:19] <SudoKing> myself[01:44:31] <Enqlave> for me it just prints "operation successful"[01:44:38] <Enqlave> and nothing's changed[01:44:50] <SudoKing> Eh? I'm wondering on how to identify so it gets its cloak[01:54:54] *** netzi_ has joined #supybot[01:54:54] *** netzi has quit IRC[02:01:13] *** Enqlave has left #supybot[02:25:52] *** netzi has joined #supybot[02:25:53] *** netzi_ has quit IRC[02:37:02] *** ManageBot is now known as IAmStupid[02:37:26] *** IAmStupid is now known as LaBot[02:37:54] *** LaBot is now known as SudoKing`[02:41:15] *** SudoKing` is now known as chaarley[02:41:24] *** chaarley is now known as chaarley2[02:41:57] *** chaarley2 is now known as Ruffy[02:46:36] *** Ruffy is now known as Sudo[02:46:45] *** Sudo is now known as Dudeer[02:47:44] *** Dudeer is now known as Hi[02:47:55] *** Hi is now known as YouCANTHIDE[02:48:37] *** YouCANTHIDE is now known as The_Manager[03:19:43] *** tonyyarusso has quit IRC[03:23:52] *** netzi_ has joined #supybot[03:24:05] *** netzi has quit IRC[03:27:05] *** netzi_ has quit IRC[03:28:49] *** netzi has joined #supybot[03:29:49] *** tonyyarusso has joined #supybot[03:32:23] *** SudoKing has left #supybot[03:44:31] *** mkanat has quit IRC[04:53:45] *** etank is now known as RoninX341[05:02:10] *** tonyyarusso has quit IRC[05:12:58] *** The_Manager is now known as Ruffy[05:19:17] *** Ruffy is now known as Jocky[06:19:15] *** otakup0pe has quit IRC[06:23:27] *** otakup0pe has joined #supybot[07:44:20] *** mkanat has joined #supybot[08:20:39] *** Weedy has quit IRC[08:20:52] *** Weedy has joined #supybot[09:39:15] *** toast2 has quit IRC[09:39:21] *** eracc has quit IRC[09:39:21] *** _Awillys_ has quit IRC[09:39:21] *** jinzo has quit IRC[09:39:21] *** aa_ has quit IRC[09:39:22] *** dcraven has quit IRC[09:39:25] *** Gokee2 has quit IRC[09:39:25] *** zoubi` has quit IRC[09:42:22] *** cast has quit IRC[09:42:37] *** cast has joined #supybot[09:44:05] *** toast2 has joined #supybot[09:44:05] *** _Awillys_ has joined #supybot[09:44:05] *** zoubi` has joined #supybot[09:44:05] *** eracc has joined #supybot[09:44:05] *** Gokee2 has joined #supybot[09:44:05] *** dcraven has joined #supybot[09:44:05] *** aa_ has joined #supybot[09:44:05] *** jinzo has joined #supybot[10:00:09] *** mkanat has quit IRC[10:43:28] *** toast has joined #supybot[10:43:28] *** toast2 has quit IRC[11:14:02] *** tombs has joined #supybot[11:31:56] *** tommyd_ has joined #supybot[11:32:28] <tommyd_> hey there! I'm currently playing around with supybot and are unable to load the Factoids plugin[11:32:41] <tommyd_> weird enough my config seems to be resetted each time I add the plugin[11:33:10] <tommyd_> the reload command tells me that there "is no such plugin", obviously its in place and has the correct rights[11:33:22] <tommyd_> pysqlite is installed as well, so I'm kind of clueless[11:34:46] *** tommyd_ is now known as tommyd[11:45:00] <Hagabard> tommyd: using captiol F?[11:48:50] <tommyd> Hagabard: yeah, but I tried both, just to be sure[11:50:20] <tommyd> I did a local / --prefix'ed install, the log doesn't show me an error or something if I try to load it[12:16:16] <Hagabard> configure log.level debug[12:16:20] <Hagabard> try to load plugin[12:16:23] <Hagabard> configure log.level info[12:16:28] <Hagabard> .flush[12:16:30] -Sinoa- Hagabard: The operation succeeded.[12:16:31] <Hagabard> then check the logs[12:35:51] <tommyd> Hagabard: http://pastebin.ca/800364[12:35:57] -Sinoa- Title: general pastebin - Anonym - post number 800364 (at pastebin.ca)[12:37:10] <tommyd> the plugin is there: ./lib/python2.4/site-packages/supybot/plugins/Factoids[12:37:39] <tommyd> and the plugins directory is properly set as well[12:40:22] <tommyd> btw... is it possible to disable the functionality that it always overwrites the config file?[13:23:08] *** tombs has quit IRC[13:35:34] <Hagabard> I don't think so, unless you set it to not writeable at the filesystem level[13:38:14] <Hagabard> try to unload Factoids and load Factoids, see what all comes up in the logs that way i guess. does Factoids show up in the list command?[14:00:27] *** mren_ has joined #supybot[14:04:34] *** RoninX341 is now known as etank[14:06:18] <tommyd> Hagabard: well, I think I found the cause: I always tried the reload command to load it - now on the load command it tells me that PySQlite is missing[14:06:25] <tommyd> however this is installed globally[14:09:47] *** mren has quit IRC[14:18:40] <tommyd> Hagabard: hrm... "`import sqlite`will only work for pysqlite 0.x/1.0.x/1.1.x. For pysqlite2, the package name is `pysqlite2` and the module`pysqlite2.dbapi2`.[14:19:04] <tommyd> this is it what I read here (not being a python guru): http://osdir.com/ml/python.db.pysqlite.user/2006-04/msg00002.html[14:19:10] -Sinoa- <http://tinyurl.com/2nrzt2> (at osdir.com)[14:19:29] <tommyd> the plugin.py of Factoids does a plain `import sqlite` - maybe this is the cause?[14:19:44] <tommyd> (I have pysqlite2)[14:20:06] <tommyd> is pysqlite1 mandatory here?[14:24:25] <tommyd> yeah, seems so. Installed pysqlite 1.1.8 locally and with that it loads properly[14:34:31] *** Nameeater has quit IRC[14:38:56] <Hagabard> yea, pysqlite 1 not 2 :)[14:41:58] <tommyd> so there are actually two bugs in the Factoids plugin: it won't show the "pysqlite missing" message on reload, but only on load, and it doesn't tell that it needs pysqlite1[14:46:24] <Hagabard> it tells you pysqlite is missing, not pysqlite2[14:46:33] <Hagabard> all the sqlite plugins use pysqlite 1[14:46:42] <Hagabard> seen, factoids, etc.[14:46:43] <tommyd> ok, point taken ;)[14:46:46] <Hagabard> well[14:46:50] <Hagabard> seen may let you use others[14:47:22] <Hagabard> i removed most of the pysqlite plugins because, sadly, pysqlite sucks :([14:47:31] <Hagabard> s/most/all[14:47:55] <tommyd> hrmmm... is this because of pysqlite1 or in general?[14:48:09] <Hagabard> pysqlite, dunno if 2 is any better[15:03:38] *** tonyyarusso has joined #supybot[15:22:39] *** mkanat has joined #supybot[16:45:29] *** tommyd has quit IRC[17:13:27] *** Jocky` has joined #supybot[17:22:19] *** wRAR has joined #supybot[17:28:50] *** Jocky has quit IRC[18:24:57] <mren_> Hi[18:25:21] <mren_> Is there any way to change the default password-hashing from sha to md5?[18:39:46] <malex> Hagabard: any alternatives to pysqlite approach? I'm about to write my second plugin and it'll need to have a local database, so I'm really wondering...[18:40:02] <aa_> malex: nothing to stop you using an ORM[18:40:39] <malex> aa_: Good point. So, I can use sqlalchemy I guess.[18:42:08] <malex> http://supybot.com/ resolves to some domain parking with adverts - whois status shows expired... oic.[18:42:11] -Sinoa- Title: dell mcafee gateway compaq voice at supybot.com (at supybot.com)[18:42:59] <aa_> yikes[18:43:28] <malex> aa_: Nobody from the dev team here seems like[18:43:46] <aa_> I prbably don't count[19:05:37] *** mkanat has quit IRC[20:00:36] *** supybot has joined #supybot[20:00:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o supybot[20:04:39] <malex> aa_: Sorry, I've not been here for a long while, so don't even know who's developing supybot nowadays :)[20:11:38] <supybot> <mren> What goes on w/ supybot.com?[20:12:39] <supybot> <jamessan> it's crap, I never visit it and good luck to anyone that expects to get help there from anyone other than other users that are unfortunate enough to deal with the site[20:13:38] <supybot> <mren> There's a now parking site w/just ads[20:14:01] <supybot> <jamessan> oh[20:14:05] <supybot> <jamessan> interesting[20:14:46] <supybot> <mren> and supybot.sf.net redirects to it.[20:14:57] <supybot> <jamessan> wow, they're quick. the registration expired yesterday[20:18:37] *** Weedy has quit IRC[20:18:50] *** Weedy has joined #supybot[20:29:47] *** Weedy has quit IRC[20:30:00] *** Weedy has joined #supybot[20:31:23] <malex> jamessan: If that site is so useless, what other supybot information source is there?[20:33:16] <supybot> <jamessan> there's information on it, but the site is a pain in the ass to use. it's slow, requires too much intervention for users to add their own plugins to the site, etc[20:39:28] <malex> jamessan: The only documentation on writing plugins I know of is at http://supybot.com/documentation/help/tutorial/plugin-author-tutorial. Any other info out there besides reading source code?[20:39:34] -Sinoa- <http://tinyurl.com/37bc22> (at supybot.com)[20:40:35] <supybot> <Strike|work> http://72.14.209.104/search?client=soap&q=cache:http%3A%2F%2Fsupybot.com%2Fdocumentation%2Fhelp%2Ftutorial%2Fplugin-author-tutorial google cache to the rescue![20:40:36] <supybot> <supybot> Title: Writing Your First Supybot Plugin Supybot Website (at 72.14.209.104)[20:40:39] <supybot> <jamessan> malex: that same document is shipped with the supybot source[20:40:44] -Sinoa- <http://tinyurl.com/36bhr5> (at 72.14.209.104)[20:40:45] <supybot> <Strike|work> and that ;)[20:40:46] <supybot> <jamessan> look at the doc/ directory[20:42:08] <wRAR> Welcome to Supybot.com! Supybot is a cross-platform IRC bot written in Python, known to run anywhere Python runs, which includes all *nices, and Windows.[20:42:21] <wRAR> is it just DNS cache?[20:42:53] <supybot> <jamessan> no, it was just a matter of getting it re-registered[20:42:55] <supybot> <Strike|work> no, the domain name expired[20:43:38] <wRAR> Creation date: 27 Nov 2004 11:15:24[20:43:38] <wRAR> Expiration date: 27 Nov 2008 11:15:24[20:43:49] <supybot> <jamessan> yes, it's been updated[20:43:58] <supybot> <jamessan> that's why you can get to the site now[20:44:12] <supybot> <jamessan> about 20 minutes ago the expiration date was in 2007[20:46:09] *** Nightweaver has quit IRC[20:46:49] <supybot> * Strike|work can't get to the site still[20:47:32] <supybot> <jamessan> @dns supybot.com[20:47:33] <supybot> <supybot> jamessan: 208.78.100.21[20:48:55] <malex> jamessan: If I wanted to submit a plugin to be included into supybot core set - what'd I have to do?[20:49:36] <malex> I suppose I can just post it on supybot.com in the user contributed plugins section, but I was just wondering.[20:49:46] <supybot> <jamessan> 1) convince me its useful enough to be in the core set. 2) open a bug on our sourceforge page[20:50:01] <malex> ok thanks[20:51:12] <supybot> <jamessan> I suppose you could skip step one and just do step 2 but then I'll just make my own decision[20:58:22] *** zann has joined #supybot[21:12:02] *** Jocky has joined #supybot[21:16:54] *** derheacker has joined #supybot[21:21:30] *** Andrew67 has joined #supybot[21:22:36] *** wRAR has quit IRC[21:27:24] *** Jocky` has quit IRC[21:37:11] <malex> I wonder how I could make my module call a method periodically (basically it's for watching a URI and posting a message to a channell based on processed data)[21:38:29] *** Nightweaver has joined #supybot[21:39:47] <supybot> <Strike|work> use the scheduler bits, see how RSS does it[21:44:42] <malex> weird, the debian package is missing a number of plugins that are in the official tarball even though the license seems to be the same for those included like RSS[21:48:35] <malex> What is the "best practice" limit on posting frequency to avoid flooding a channell?[21:50:01] <supybot> <jamessan> no, the debian package isn't missing any plugins[21:51:09] *** derheacker has quit IRC[21:53:03] <malex> jamessan: you are right - I just embarassed myself again by not noticing that dpkg -L didn't sort alphabetically :([21:53:09] <supybot> <jamessan> :)[22:13:49] *** jinzo is now known as jinzo[away][22:13:51] *** jinzo[away] is now known as jinzo[22:21:24] -supybot- blizz has left on oftc[22:55:08] *** etank is now known as RoninX341[22:55:21] -supybot- fw0rd has left on oftc[23:14:20] *** Jocky` has joined #supybot[23:15:04] *** Jocky` has quit IRC[23:20:07] <mren_> aa_: You've written the ExternalControl-Plugin?[23:21:12] <mren_> Just a short question about it: All I have to do after installing is send an xmlrpc to the specified port?[23:29:01] -supybot- CIA-1 has quit oftc (Remote host closed the connection)[23:29:29] *** Jocky has quit IRC[23:29:45] -supybot- CIA-1 has joined on oftc[23:33:55] *** Jocky has joined #supybot[23:34:49] *** Jocky is now known as The_Manager[23:40:21] <mren_> And is there somewhere an example how I have to build this xmlrpc?[23:46:20] <aa_> mren_: right, I think there is an example in the source[23:46:23] *** Andrew67 has quit IRC[23:58:15] -supybot- jemfinch has quit oftc (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)