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[07:12:33] <sjorge> Looks good bahamat
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[16:25:56] <kkantor> Smithx10: I haven't tried manatee with pg12 yet! The folks working on the Manta buckets feature have been using it to great success though! How has your experience been?
[16:28:20] <Smithx10> ive been using 11 from that branch
[16:28:27] <Smithx10> but I think Im gonna move to 12 because I want generative keys
[16:29:27] <kkantor> Ah, that's right. I haven't heard of generative keys...
[16:29:34] <jbk> keys or columns?
[16:29:47] <kkantor> ah, generated columns I've heard of
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[16:31:15] <Smithx10> generative columns*
[16:31:18] <Smithx10> sorry im silly
[16:33:18] <danmcd> ENOCAFFEINE...
[16:34:02] <Smithx10> danmcd: absolutely.
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[16:48:59] <danmcd> So Smithx10, since you're here. Any word from your trials of nfs-zone? I'm likely to RTI v. soon.
[16:49:58] <Smithx10> We havent had any issues, but people honestly aren't heavily using them atm because we labeled it as beta / dont put prod
[16:50:22] <Smithx10> People at work kinda stink
[16:50:32] <Smithx10> I can understand their position tho
[16:53:28] <muchomas> label it 'alpha' and say participation us by invitation only. you'll have them lining up to test it.
[16:54:16] <kkantor> haha. That's the Google strategy!
[16:56:13] <muchomas> lol. outed another gcp customer!
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[17:22:50] <Smithx10> so kkantor no issues with 12 so far, sweet ... Ill build an image and have go.
[17:22:59] <Smithx10> Great OpenZFS talks btw, keep it up.
[17:36:36] <kkantor> Thanks!
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[18:04:06] <kkantor> The SAS topology mapping code has had a number of changes since that talk. We're cleaning it up now in hopes that we can send it to illumos-gate soon.
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[18:18:05] <rmustacc> kkantor: Feel free to tag me on that stuff when you're looking for review.
[18:19:24] <kkantor> Will do!
[18:19:46] <kkantor> It will be good to get your perspective.
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[19:07:01] <pjustice> May I ask the Joyent folk about the impacts of a possible npm debacle, and any backup plans? I know this rumor keeps going around, and they keep denying it. But it seems they do have some funding issues, and management wants me to think about it.
[19:09:20] <bahamat> What's the npm debacle?
[19:09:47] <pjustice> That the service goes away, probably because they run out of money.
[19:09:50] <bahamat> Like what if the company does out of business and/or shuts down the registry?
[19:09:56] <pjustice> yes
[19:11:00] <bahamat> Well, we'd probably end up doing what the rest of the community does. Node itself is now managed by the node foundation. We're on the TSC but we're no longer in sole control.
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[22:51:13] <sjorge> Woodstock did you file the you know what bug? If so, can you ping me the OS-XXXX number... so I can at least track the fix if/when it lands
[22:52:42] <jbk> sjorge: gordon was able to test the ldap group fix against ad (all good)
[22:52:52] <sjorge> jbk nice!
[22:53:24] <sjorge> So it might land soonish :p
[22:53:32] <sjorge> That be one less patch to carry around
[22:55:16] <jbk> i don't suppose you could try to spin up a new zone and try to connect it to your ldap instance while running dtrace -n 'pid$target::find_domainname:entry { } -c 'ldapclient ....'
[22:55:24] <jbk> err with correct quoting :)
[22:55:45] <sjorge> So run that on a zone that is doing ldap auth?
[22:57:09] <jbk> well i think it's called during setup
[22:57:22] <jbk> though it looks like it might also be called if you put your hosts info in ldap (instead of dns)
[22:57:43] <sjorge> If I don't forget I will try tomorrow during a bit of downtime
[22:57:49] <sjorge> At a conference all day
[22:58:08] <jbk> to get the nisdomain object during setup
[22:58:15] <jbk> err i think it's used for that
[22:58:27] <jbk> so just want to make sure that it works (during setup) and is called
[22:58:28] <sjorge> Hmm I have none of those in ldap itself
[22:58:50] <sjorge> As I'm still happering out a POC It's just /etc/hosts in my case
[22:58:50] <jbk> if not, i'll try to setup an ldap server and test it here soon
[22:59:13] <jbk> just trying to get the key management stuff for zfs encryption wapped up
[22:59:15] <jbk> err wrapped up
[22:59:55] <sjorge> That would be an interesting talk for FOSDEM or a *BSDcon! :p
[23:00:10] <jbk> well i did a short presentation on one of the openzfs calls
[23:00:18] <jbk> i was supposed to do it at the develoeprs summit in nov
[23:00:25] <jbk> but i got sick the day before i was supposed to fly out
[23:00:32] <sjorge> I think I might have seen it, was it the oine you couln't give on openzfs dev summit?
[23:00:36] <jbk> yeah
[23:00:40] <sjorge> :p so yeah I did see that
[23:00:57] <jbk> well it was either a stomach bug and/or food poisioning.. either way.. flying was not advisable
[23:01:33] <jbk> though arekinath came up with a lot of the design, so it does feel a bit strange talking about it
[23:01:50] <jbk> (I've hopefully tried to give credit as appropriate)
[23:12:06] <v_a_b> sjorge I forgot to talk to you about LDAP :-(
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[23:22:35] <sjorge> Just need to get mirrormode stup and some sort of CARP setup
[23:22:39] <sjorge> But ucarp is deprecated :(
[23:22:46] <sjorge> *abandoned
[23:38:49] <copec> How do I echo the install messages that are smartos specific and/or is there a pkgin install output log?
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[23:40:57] <copec> meh, I guess looking at +INSTALL
[23:41:22] <copec> was hoping to see the prettier output
[23:41:26] <jbk> v_a_b: if you have ldap questions, we can try to answer
[23:46:39] <v_a_b> Thanks jbk,,, earlier sjorge had some LDAP questions, and I spent two days with him at FOSDEM and wanted to ask details about his setup.
[23:46:58] <v_a_b> I am running some LDAP servers on Solaris in my lab but they are good ATM.
[23:47:17] * v_a_b keeps fingers crossed
[23:48:58] <jperkin> copec: pkg_info -i for the install script, pkg_info -D for the MESSAGE file, is there something else you wanted though?
[23:49:59] <copec> I just thought I might have seen something relevant, but then it got pushed out of my scrollback
[23:51:17] <jperkin> it's long been a wish of mine to work on proper handling of that output
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[23:57:01] <copec> How do I see what services were running in a zone I can't start atm? Where are the live manifests stored?
[23:57:48] <copec> I wish this was my daily grind instead of occasionally touching personal stuff, so I wouldn't forget these details.
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[23:59:44] <copec> I know of the opt/local/lib/svc/manifest before import. I'll have to go back to the review board
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