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[08:40:16] <SamiP> howdy all
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[08:44:40] <SamiP> hello @jhendricks
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[08:52:27] <SamiP> hello
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[11:15:51] <tozhu> hello, is there anyone online? I want to ask if it's possible to make a mirror site for images.joyent.com ? if so, how to do? is there any docs available?
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[11:27:31] <drscream> I assume this could be used to mirror it
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[12:38:52] <cornet> has anyone managed to get qt5-qtwebkit building on smartos ?
[12:40:31] <jperkin> not yet, long time failure that one but not a priority to fix
[12:41:31] <jperkin> I had a brief look but don't understand C++ crap well enough to know how to fix it
[12:41:36] <jzu_> is regular VMware Fusion enough for CoaL or would I be better off with Pro?
[12:41:43] <jzu_> (VMware Fusion 8.5 vs. Pro)
[12:42:00] <jzu_> I _think_ I tried Fusion with regular 8.5 before my trial expired but I cannot recall :)
[12:42:11] <jperkin> jzu_: I don't know anyone who has pro, regular is fine
[12:43:05] <cornet> jperkin: yer I get the same ld: fatal: relocations remain ... error, tried building with -fpic/-fPIC but didn't make a difference :/
[12:43:34] <jzu_> jperkin: yeah so I thought
[12:43:40] <jperkin> yeh, the build flags are fine and it's not inline assembly so I have no idea what's going on
[12:44:24] <jperkin> could try building with -ztextoff but I prefer to avoid hacks so would like to investigate it properly at some point
[12:46:24] <cornet> I'll give it a shot
[12:47:16] <jperkin> LDFLAGS.SunOS+= -ztextoff in the pkgsrc Makefile if you want to try, would be interested in the results at least
[12:48:02] <cornet> i've just added it to the webkit makefile for the moment to see if it builds - will let you know the result
[12:49:59] <TyrfingMjolnir> How do I change the joyent logo at login?
[12:50:07] <TyrfingMjolnir> of ssh or zlogin, i e
[12:50:59] <jperkin> edit /etc/motd
[12:54:31] <tozhu> drscream: thank you very much, I'm going to have a try
[12:57:05] <TyrfingMjolnir> echo "$(prtconf -m)" >> /etc/motd did not really make a difference, is this just a text file?
[12:57:56] <jperkin> yes
[12:58:48] <jzu_> jperkin: thanks.. placed internal license order for Fusion 8.5
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[17:55:25] <bsmithx10> HmmMm while trouble shooting why my binder wont start up I discovered
[17:56:00] <bsmithx10> that the moray instance wasnt registered in zk
[17:56:54] <bsmithx10> no state object exists or shard "1.moray.east.example.com"
[17:57:30] <bsmithx10> Any ideas?
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[20:12:07] <EngineerNate1> What's up all. Anybody willing to help me out with experimenting with Triton?
[20:12:47] <rmustacc> Feel free to ask your questions. Folks will generally try and answer and help as they have time.
[20:13:54] <EngineerNate1> I was on a few months back and it seemed like it was feasible to give Triton much fewer resources than the spec for a home lab route setup (1x compute, 1x head). What a feasible minimum spec for that setup?
[20:14:05] <EngineerNate1> Cores/memory allocation
[20:14:14] <bsmithx10> definitely
[20:14:22] <EngineerNate1> Hey bsmith
[20:14:22] <bsmithx10> i was running the head node iwth 4 gb of ram
[20:14:26] <rmustacc> EngineerNate1: Well, you can also experiment in a 8 GB VM.
[20:14:32] <EngineerNate1> I think it was you i talked to
[20:14:51] <bsmithx10> just understand that if you get errors from the headnode
[20:15:03] <bsmithx10> it could be due to memory limitations etc
[20:15:05] <EngineerNate1> I'm also wondering if it would be better to put my headnode on a smartos zone vs using esxi to do the top level
[20:15:22] <bsmithx10> up to you.
[20:15:33] <EngineerNate1> I have no need of the esxi other features otherwise, no windows vms or pci passthrough
[20:17:22] <EngineerNate1> And if i did put it in a smart OS zone, world it be feasible to have it manage other VMs on that same machine or would it only be able to manage my second machine?
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[20:18:28] <EngineerNate1> I'm thinking of the setups where you use esxi to create compute/head nodes on one physical box. Is that possible in a pure smartOS environment? I'd like to avoid hackery like enabling compute on the headnode.
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[20:33:48] <nahamu> EngineerNate1234: You want to boot Triton on a SmartOS machine?
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[20:34:22] <EngineerNate1234> Is that not the standard thing to do?
[20:34:42] <nahamu> I think the Joyent engineers use vmware on their laptops...
[20:35:06] <nahamu> I don't remember if I tested booting a CN wired up to the etherstubs, but it should certainly be possible.
[20:35:40] <nahamu> If you get the headnode booted but for some reason need help getting the compute node to boot, ping me.
[20:35:58] <EngineerNate1234> I thought that Triton got installed on top of smartos. O guys
[20:36:09] <EngineerNate1234> I guess it's it's own iso?
[20:36:11] <nahamu> Uh, let's take a step back.
[20:36:24] <EngineerNate1234> I feel dumb now haha
[20:36:35] <nahamu> It's confusing, let me see if I can explain.
[20:36:48] <nahamu> There's SmartOS which is a minimalist hypervisor OS.
[20:37:13] <nahamu> Then there are a ton of microservices and APIs that together make up "Triton"
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[20:37:39] <EngineerNate1234> Yes
[20:37:40] <nahamu> The traditional way to install Triton on bare metal is to use the USB stick image.
[20:38:04] <nahamu> That helps you create a headnode capable of PXE booting a whole datacenter full of machines.
[20:38:39] <nahamu> For development and testing, Joyent engineers often use the "CoaL" (Cloud on a Laptop) image running under vmware.
[20:40:01] <nahamu> If you want to virtualize a headnode and compute node, you could do it under vmware if you have that at your disposal.
[20:40:25] <EngineerNate1234> Coal is a combined compute/headnode correct?
[20:40:42] <nahamu> I'm not sure how best to answer that.
[20:41:20] <nahamu> I'm not sure how the coal image differs from the normal open source headnode image.
[20:41:50] <nahamu> I know that for paying customers you can get a headnode image that includes firmware blobs for all the hardware that Joyent support.
[20:42:10] <EngineerNate1234> I guess what i mean is, does it instance multiple vms for the head/compute nodes or is it designed to roll that into one vm image?
[20:42:48] <nahamu> Some people boot the coal image on a single VM, mark the headnode "provisionable" and skip booking a compute node.
[20:42:58] <nahamu> The only way to emulate a compute node is to create a second VM.
[20:43:00] <EngineerNate1234> Okay
[20:43:02] <EngineerNate1234> Yes
[20:43:34] <EngineerNate1234> I've read that there are some issues performance wise doing it that way
[20:43:48] <EngineerNate1234> Vs separate vms
[20:43:52] <nahamu> Are you talking about production or development??
[20:44:22] <nahamu> wait, what do you mean by "doing it that way"?
[20:44:41] <EngineerNate1234> Making the head node provisionable
[20:45:17] <EngineerNate1234> It's for home experimentation
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[20:45:38] <EngineerNate1234> But i need to run my firewall vm on the same hardware
[20:46:20] <EngineerNate1234> So I'm looking for the best compromise to keep that running smoothly while getting some exposure to smart os/Triton
[20:47:06] <nahamu> I run SmartOS on my home machine and when I want to poke Triton at home, I boot it in a VM like in that blog post I wrote.
[20:47:24] <EngineerNate1234> I was told that enabling provisioning on the headnode can cause some resource issues
[20:48:24] <EngineerNate1234> Thanks!
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[20:50:07] <nahamu> sure, "enabling provisioning on the headnode can cause some resource issues" is probably true, but how much of an issue that is will depend on how hard you're pushing things.
[20:50:28] <nahamu> Since it's just experiments you could try creating a headnode and making it provisionable and see if that's enough.
[20:50:41] <nahamu> If not, you could wipe it, start over and also create a compute node VM.
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[20:56:09] <EngineerNate1234> Good idea. I have a tendency to try to optimize before I try things.
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[20:57:50] <EngineerNate1234> Quick related question, if i made a compute "node" on a smart OS box, would that need to be kvm or could it be a zone?
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[21:05:38] <bahamat> EngineerNate1234: It would need to be KVM.
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[21:11:34] <EngineerNate1234> @bahamat thanks!
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[21:19:59] <bsmithx10> bahamat: by chance have any idea baout that manta moray error i posted?
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[21:20:09] <bsmithx10> manatee-adm pg-status: error: no state object exists for shard: "1.moray.east.tritonhost.com"
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[21:20:29] <bsmithx10> thats stopping binder from coming up.... seems like moray isnt registering in zk
[21:21:01] <bahamat> bsmithx10: I'm not sure, it' looks pretty obscure. You're still in the setup process?
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[21:56:46] <bsmithx10> bahamat: yea, its the initial boot strapping
[22:00:00] <wizard113_> anyone recall who was trying to remove a bunch of docker-layer images a few weeks ago?
[22:00:02] <wizard113_> I have 655 in my lab setup, mostry due to failed builds. I want to clean them out, but I remember someone had issues when they did the same thing.
[22:04:54] <bahamat> bsmithx10: My best recommendation is to reset and follow the guide as closely as you can.
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[22:09:37] <bsmithx10> bahamat: I did with my friend Jeff
[22:09:42] <bsmithx10> he works at joyent on netops
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[22:10:16] <bsmithx10> Do you know how the services are registered into zk?
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[22:11:28] <bahamat> bsmithx10: Not specifically...I don't know too much of the details with zk.
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[22:12:38] <bahamat> I do know that it's often best to deploy the nameservers alone, then one at a time do postgres, moray, electric-moray, then everything else.
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[22:21:15] <bsmithx10> bahamat: ill try that
[22:22:52] <nahamu> Today in random stuff: you can experiment with a 4k block virtio disk by setting "qemu_extra_opts": "-global virtio-blk-pci.physical_block_size=4096"
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[22:28:55] <bahamat> nahamu: That's a neat trick.
[22:29:16] <nahamu> Came out of one of the smartos-discuss threads.
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[23:20:50] <dr_> hi everybody. i've been setting up the triton cli on my mac. for the most part things are working. but i have been failing to get docker setup with it. seems the docker0 vm on the headnode has port 2376 closed and when running `triton profile docker-setup` it errors out with: triton profile docker-setup: error (ECONNREFUSED): connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.4.6:2376
[23:23:08] <dr_> if the port is closed, then that must mean the docker daemon must not be running right?
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[23:29:33] <jzu_> well technically speaking there isn't "docker daemon" on docker0 :)
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[23:32:42] <dr_> ah
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[23:33:03] <dr_> a service though right?
[23:35:22] <jzu_> a Docker Remote API endpoint which speaks Docker Remote API to Docker and does things on Triton API (creates a Zone, copies Docker image to the Zone etC)
[23:36:56] <jzu_> what does this return:
[23:36:57] <jzu_> # sdc-login docker0 netstat -a | grep 2376
[23:37:06] <jzu_> (on the headnode)
[23:37:59] <dr_> returns empty
[23:39:39] <dr_> jzu: empty
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[23:40:15] <dr_> jzu_:
[23:40:21] <jzu_> dr_: yeah so then it's not running properly
[23:41:13] <jzu_> does # svcs -Zx return anything?
[23:41:18] <jzu_> on the headnode
[23:41:31] <jzu_> also check sdc-healthcheck output
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[23:42:12] <dr_> yeahh service not running..."Reason: Restarting too quickly."
[23:45:23] <jzu_> what does tail -100 /zones/$(vmadm lookup alias=docker0)/root/var/svc/log/smartdc-application-docker:default.log
[23:45:26] <jzu_> say
[23:45:48] <jzu_> you can determine the logfile by running svcs -L docker in the docker0 Zone
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[23:52:01] <dr_> jzu_: it's empty :(
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[23:53:20] <dr_> jzu_: i had restarted the vm from the admin gui before i asked about this issue in this channel. maybe that's the cause of this?
[23:55:25] <nbjoerg> where does logadm stores its config?
[23:55:38] <nbjoerg> I see a lot of root mail in the gz referring to deleted zones...
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