January 27, 2017 
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(watched through $ triton ls)[12:23:17] *** timclassic <timclassic!timstooorg@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-gqxdinlkxmqyqnqw> has joined #smartos[12:25:46] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:c084:ee47:57f0:7902> has joined #smartos[12:25:49] *** alcir <alcir!~alcir@fw.ftgm.it> has joined #smartos[12:28:39] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@90.193.56.27> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:28:54] *** ShalokShalom_ is now known as ShalokShalom[12:30:06] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@90.193.56.27> has joined #smartos[12:30:31] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:c084:ee47:57f0:7902> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[12:38:03] <steven43126> jzu_: is it because it reboots as part of the provision[12:38:11] <steven43126> ^im taking a wild guess here[12:40:29] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.249.231> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:44:23] *** xtreegpt <xtreegpt!~gtreanto@pool-173-76-17-9.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #smartos[12:45:14] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.249.231> has joined #smartos[12:46:25] *** poige <poige!~textual@183.89.53.155> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[12:46:54] <jzu_> steven43126: yeah, I'm also guessing that[12:47:12] <jzu_> steven43126: and it get's reset after the reboot is done[12:49:44] *** poige <poige!~textual@183.89.53.155> has joined #smartos[12:55:59] <poige> Are there're any plans for adding -o ashift to zfs create?[12:56:22] *** xtreegpt <xtreegpt!~gtreanto@pool-173-76-17-9.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC ()[13:02:50] *** edef <edef!edefnathan@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bsgdanskovwhumvq> has joined #smartos[13:07:52] *** chendy <chendy!~alexc@121.34.146.10> has joined #smartos[13:08:05] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.249.231> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:10:31] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.249.231> has joined #smartos[13:21:00] *** leow_ <leow_!~leow@175.137.68.34> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:21:28] *** chendy <chendy!~alexc@121.34.146.10> has quit IRC (Quit: chendy)[13:23:42] *** alcir <alcir!~alcir@fw.ftgm.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[13:25:02] *** alcir <alcir!~alcir@fw.ftgm.it> has joined #smartos[13:25:31] *** KermitTheFragger <KermitTheFragger!~KermitThe@gateway.serviceplanet.nl> has joined #smartos[13:30:40] *** alcir <alcir!~alcir@fw.ftgm.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:31:23] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.249.231> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:34:10] *** muxdaemon <muxdaemon!~textual@152.88.2.81.in-addr.arpa> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:37:07] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.249.231> has joined #smartos[13:41:41] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.249.231> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[13:49:52] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.249.231> has joined #smartos[13:51:45] *** alcir <alcir!~alcir@fw.ftgm.it> has joined #smartos[13:57:11] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~Adium@astound-66-234-218-247.ca.astound.net> has joined #smartos[13:58:10] *** tpaul <tpaul!~travispau@50.127.78.178> has joined #smartos[14:00:06] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~Adium@astound-66-234-218-247.ca.astound.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:07:05] *** alcir <alcir!~alcir@fw.ftgm.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:12:14] *** muxdaemon <muxdaemon!~textual@152.88.2.81.in-addr.arpa> has joined #smartos[14:18:06] *** faa <faa!~andrey@unaffiliated/faa> has joined #smartos[14:27:26] *** alcir <alcir!~alcir@fw.ftgm.it> has joined #smartos[14:34:03] *** poige <poige!~textual@183.89.53.155> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I'm sorry for maybe some wrong information :([15:17:54] *** cburroughs <cburroughs!~cburrough@pool-71-120-19-48.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #smartos[15:21:19] *** io_bora <io_bora!~io_bora@162.252.136.127> has joined #smartos[15:21:45] <jperkin> oh, crap[15:22:45] <jperkin> some idiot (hi me) forgot to pull in the static link patch[15:24:04] <jperkin> so, short term fix is to not do that, and do 'pkg_add -U openssl' first instead[15:24:24] <jperkin> longer term I'll put out 16.4.1 images with fixed pkg_install[15:25:00] <steven43126> jperkin: you mean normally pkg_add anf related foo will be statically compiled with openssl ?[15:25:14] <jperkin> yes, like they were in 2016Q3[15:25:16] <drscream> than I will delay my image building ;-)[15:30:28] <nahamu> jzu_ / steven43126 : yes, part of zoneinit for joyent branded zones includes a reboot.[15:32:09] <steven43126> nahamu: jzu_ yeh if i recall you can do it without a reboot (and zoneinit) using the joyent-minimal brand[15:32:34] <nahamu> yes, joyent-minimal brand skips zoneinit[15:33:18] <nahamu> also, I did some work to make the joyent minimal brand a little more flexible in terms of being able to easily import any SMF service that's available in the regular joyent brand.[15:34:16] <nahamu> which is pretty convenient for rapidly spinning up minimalist zones to do a single task.[15:35:43] *** chorrell <chorrell!~chorrell@unaffiliated/chorrell> has joined #smartos[15:36:12] <drscream> jperkin: the workaround works as well :-)[15:36:35] <jperkin> from a broken install it shouldn't?[15:36:43] <jperkin> am just putting together some instructions to make that work[15:37:07] <drscream> before the pkgin full-upgrade[15:37:40] <drscream> pkgin -f -y up; pkg_add -U openssl; pkgin -y full-upgrade[15:41:39] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has joined #smartos[15:43:42] <jperkin> if you still have that broken image around it'd be great if you could verify the workaround I just posted (seemed to work ok for me)[15:46:05] *** alcir <alcir!~alcir@fw.ftgm.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:46:54] <drscream> I've it only during a build process of a new image, so the workaround (if you've not done a full-upgrade already) works. As I wrote if I run the three commands in the '3c999bae-d419-11e6-adea-e730a3c335c6' (minimal-64-lts) I will be still able to use pkg_add or pkgin to install additional packages.[15:47:21] <drscream> If I miss todo the 'pkg_add -U openssl' before the 'pkgin -y full-upgrade', pkgin and pkg_add will not work anymore because of the posted libssl issue[15:47:40] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #smartos[15:47:48] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:48:10] <jperkin> sorry, to clarify, I meant the workaround I posted to smartos-discuss to fix the case where openssl has been deleted[15:48:14] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has joined #smartos[15:51:21] <drscream> I will try to hook the workaround you posted into the build system to see if it's working :-)[15:53:01] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:54:29] <drscream> jperkin: the workaround / fix you posted on the mailinglist works as well for me[15:58:16] *** polishdub <polishdub!~polishdub@208.93.128.118> has joined #smartos[15:58:28] <sjorge> jperkin: I take it 2016Q4 tools has the same issue?[15:59:06] <jperkin> yup, sorry, forgot to mention that in the mail[15:59:19] *** mhicks <mhicks!~Adium@ip72-192-145-123.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #smartos[15:59:34] <sjorge> I made that assumption, and there was indeed an update openssl[15:59:46] <sjorge> Not all people might though, then again not sure how actively -tools is used[16:00:12] <sjorge> I use it for my salt-minion deployment on my compute nodes and it is awesome[16:01:59] <jzu_> nahamu: ah, right :)[16:02:09] <jzu_> nahamu: any way to speed up docker run ... guess no?[16:02:44] <jzu_> nahamu: our devs are evaluating Triton and docker run takes quite a time because of Zone being setup[16:03:26] <nahamu> Faster CPUs, All SSD pools, and faster networks??[16:04:56] <nahamu> I think there may be a way to watch the workflow that launches them and see timestamps on the phases of starting it up.[16:06:19] *** cmacrae <cmacrae!~cmacrae@cpc2-hitc7-2-0-cust720.9-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:07:16] <nahamu> But basically when you do docker run, the layers need to get into the cluster, then they need to get onto the CN that will be running the zone, then the zone needs to get configured and launched.[16:08:27] <nahamu> One way to think about it might be in terms of how long your containers live in general.[16:08:28] *** cmacrae <cmacrae!~cmacrae@cpc2-hitc7-2-0-cust720.9-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #smartos[16:08:55] <nahamu> I have some containers running in the JPC that have been around for months. 30s to launch them isn't a big deal in that instance.[16:11:38] <nahamu> If your developers are iterating on something, doing development locally, and then saving launching in the Triton cluster for final testing and production might make more sense than doing development in the Triton cluster too.[16:12:28] <steven43126> jzu_: whats the use case where it causes issues purley out of curisoty[16:13:36] *** chendy <chendy!~alexc@121.34.146.10> has joined #smartos[16:14:46] <jzu_> steven43126: build / test jobs, smallest ones might run a minute or two[16:15:05] <jzu_> steven43126: so if the creation takes +30secs it's considerable amount of the actual time the container is used[16:15:31] <jzu_> but yeah, since it needs to provision the actual Zone it's not as instantenous as with Linux Docker[16:15:33] <nbjoerg> jzu_: if you set autoboot=false, how long does it take?[16:16:00] <nbjoerg> (if you can get docker to just create the zone without actual startup)[16:16:05] <nahamu> autoboot=false is unrelated to docker[16:16:10] <nahamu> docker zones don't need a reboot.[16:16:48] <jzu_> but yeah the only way would be to have more beefier CPU's and SSD's[16:16:50] <steven43126> jzu_: as nahamu suggest a place to start would be looking at the workflow to see where time is spent to see where you could focus optimization efforts if thats something you are considering[16:16:56] <jzu_> don't have hardware yet, my test are based purely on JPC[16:16:57] <nbjoerg> nahamu: no, but initial deployment is create+start[16:17:09] <nbjoerg> nahamu: so it would certainly be helpful to know how long create takes[16:17:34] <nahamu> nbjoerg: I guess, but my money is on everything else in the workflow.[16:17:45] <nbjoerg> mine as well[16:17:53] <nbjoerg> but it helps to make sure before spending a lot of time on it[16:19:33] <steven43126> jzu_: If it's in the JPC then you wont have access to vie the workflow logs etc i thought this wat a private triton install[16:19:43] <jzu_> steven43126: yeah I'll need to check the workflow steps and times from AdminUI with the test environment I have[16:20:05] <jzu_> steven43126: and with the actual hardware, which will be E2690 etc (aka. modern)[16:20:26] <steven43126> jzu_: if you have a private instance you could look at sending the image to compute nodes before it's needed etc[16:20:35] <jzu_> would sync=off do anything with spinning disk + SLOG, guess not much?[16:20:39] <steven43126> so provision doesn't need to wait on fetching the image[16:21:03] <steven43126> jzu_: Guessing games, profile first :)[16:21:20] <steven43126> my guess probably not because the IO will be async[16:21:33] <jzu_> steven43126: yeah :)[16:21:44] *** muxdaemon <muxdaemon!~textual@152.88.2.81.in-addr.arpa> has joined #smartos[16:22:11] <jzu_> how would one push a Docker image to the CN from privately run registry?[16:22:23] <jzu_> haven't really looked at sdc-docker that much[16:22:23] <nahamu> honestly, depending on where the docker images are coming from, the biggest time sink might be getting the image from the Docker Hub into the Triton cluster. But looking at the workflow timings in your test environment will be very informative.[16:22:48] <jzu_> the images would be used as part of CI/CD build-test environment, so the container would be started once the build of Docker image finishes[16:23:24] <jzu_> and the docker images would be in a private local repository, which is running inside Triton most likely[16:23:47] <jzu_> as a docker container :)[16:24:12] <nahamu> jzu_: https://docs.joyent.com/public-cloud/instances/docker/registries might have the info you need.[16:25:40] <jzu_> ah so I could do docker pull after new docker image is ready[16:26:05] <jzu_> then I could fetch it to CN through API / sdc-imgadm, or?[16:26:27] <jzu_> (if that even is the culprit, I bet the actual Zone setup takes most of the time, maybe;)[16:27:22] <steven43126> jzu_: there are lots of options but profiling first is gonig to save you expending effort on the wrong thing :)[16:27:32] <jzu_> yeah :)[16:28:10] <steven43126> jzu_: be good to see what you find though[16:29:07] <jzu_> yeah.. the complaint from docker user was "oh so this thing takes +30secs to spin up the Docker instance.. Linux Docker does it in 0.5-2sec" etc.[16:29:10] <jzu_> you get the point ;)[16:29:26] <jzu_> I don't mind it but I understand the frustration[16:30:17] <steven43126> sure there doing somewhat different things in reality though it's just the interface that is similar[16:30:36] <jzu_> yep, exactly[16:31:02] <jzu_> I explained it and it was known, it was just puzzling "Doesn't ZFS make it faster, huh"[16:31:04] <steven43126> ie triton is considering placement of the instence across your compute nodes and abstracts that alll away Linux on the other hand isn't doing any of that :)[16:31:23] <jzu_> yeah :)[16:31:35] *** chendy <chendy!~alexc@121.34.146.10> has quit IRC (Quit: chendy)[16:31:44] *** lystra <lystra!~lystra@d53-64-11-169.nap.wideopenwest.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:31:49] <steven43126> It might be docker/triton isn't a good fit for the existing way the team works[16:31:57] <nahamu> The use cases of Linux Docker and a Triton cluster are different.[16:32:11] <jzu_> true[16:33:01] <nahamu> Linux Docker: great for local iteration. Triton cluster: I want to run hundreds of secure containers each with a dedicated IP address across a many-node hardware cluster.[16:33:07] <jzu_> aand.. if it's pain point there is always KVM, harhar.[16:33:38] <nahamu> Because while it might take 30 seconds to start up a container, you can probably stand up hundreds of them in parallel in that 30 seconds.[16:33:59] <jzu_> :-)[16:34:19] <nahamu> KVM really might not be a bad answer to the problem they have.[16:34:26] <jzu_> yeah and in the end, fastest jobs might take a minute or two but some might take 10-20 minutes, so it really might not matter in the big picture[16:34:56] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has joined #smartos[16:35:04] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:35:28] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has joined #smartos[16:35:44] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:36:11] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has joined #smartos[16:37:47] *** gh34 <gh34!~textual@66.195.151.70> has joined #smartos[16:39:30] <bsmithx10> Does anyone know if docker push on triton has been implimented?[16:39:45] <bsmithx10> also, any manta experts around ?[16:39:52] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@174-126-190-180.cpe.cableone.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I don't really know what I'm looking at[17:03:51] *** muxdaemon <muxdaemon!~textual@81.2.88.152> has joined #smartos[17:06:28] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.249.231> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:13:28] *** axonpoet <axonpoet!~axonpoet@fsf/member/axonpoet> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:14:13] *** rzezeski <rzezeski!uid151901@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nkzhsdkrxwedzugk> has joined #smartos[17:15:43] *** axonpoet <axonpoet!~axonpoet@fsf/member/axonpoet> has joined #smartos[17:15:58] *** axonpoet <axonpoet!~axonpoet@fsf/member/axonpoet> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:16:40] *** axonpoet <axonpoet!~axonpoet@fsf/member/axonpoet> has joined #smartos[17:23:21] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@208.184.5.170> has joined #smartos[17:31:39] *** tab_ <tab_!~tab_@178.208.163.168> has joined #smartos[17:34:01] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.249.231> has joined #smartos[17:34:04] *** jcea <jcea!~Thunderbi@ks27448.kimsufi.com> has joined #smartos[17:38:10] <jperkin> jzu_: also worth investigating the manta model, i.e. provision zones automatically once their work is complete so they are ready for jobs straight away[17:38:26] *** tab_ <tab_!~tab_@178.208.163.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:39:08] *** tab_ <tab_!~tab_@178.208.163.168> has joined #smartos[17:39:16] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[17:41:07] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #smartos[17:43:50] *** tab_ <tab_!~tab_@178.208.163.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:44:59] <tozhu> is there any docs to guide image guide?[17:45:17] <tozhu> anyone could help me?[17:46:10] *** leow <leow!~leow@175.137.68.34> has joined #smartos[17:46:33] <tozhu> I'm going to make a image server, but it does not work, is anyone could help me? thanks in advance[17:48:42] *** jocthbr__ <jocthbr__!~jocthbr@177.37.250.23> has joined #smartos[17:50:49] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.249.231> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:51:10] *** dap_ <dap_!~dap@208.184.5.170> has joined #smartos[17:51:29] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.249.231> has joined #smartos[17:52:20] *** jocthbr_ <jocthbr_!~jocthbr@177.37.250.23> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:54:10] *** tab_ <tab_!~tab_@178.208.163.168> has joined #smartos[17:54:58] *** KermitTheFragger <KermitTheFragger!~KermitThe@gateway.serviceplanet.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:58:29] *** Tenhi <Tenhi!~tenhi@static-ip-69-64-50-196.inaddr.ip-pool.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:01:10] *** tab_ <tab_!~tab_@178.208.163.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:03:20] *** muxdaemon <muxdaemon!~textual@81.2.88.152> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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the build fix should have been pulled up[20:18:31] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:19:18] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has joined #smartos[20:22:52] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~Adium@162.217.72.254> has joined #smartos[20:23:55] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:25:07] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has joined #smartos[20:25:57] <jperkin> probably masked by pkgfail, I'll fix it for the next build[20:26:36] <jperkin> (once a branch is complete we generate a list of packages for which we automatically set PKG_FAIL_REASON, helps to speed up rebuilds but means we need to manually remove them from the list if they're fixed on the branch)[20:29:33] *** pgale61 <pgale61!~Adium@host31-48-230-75.range31-48.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[20:32:55] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:33:51] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@66.55.218.59> has joined #smartos[20:34:23] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@66.55.218.59> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:34:39] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~Adium@162.217.72.254> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[20:34:59] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #smartos[20:36:18] *** pgale61 <pgale61!~Adium@host31-48-230-75.range31-48.btcentralplus.com> has joined #smartos[20:38:09] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~Adium@162.217.72.254> has joined #smartos[20:38:39] *** pgale61 <pgale61!~Adium@host31-48-230-75.range31-48.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:38:56] *** illogik_ <illogik_!~illogik@adfb3524.cst.lightpath.net> has joined #smartos[20:39:20] *** illogik <illogik!~illogik@adfb3524.cst.lightpath.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:48:47] *** illogik <illogik!~illogik@adfb3524.cst.lightpath.net> has joined #smartos[20:49:15] *** illogik_ <illogik_!~illogik@adfb3524.cst.lightpath.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:53:03] *** illogik <illogik!~illogik@adfb3524.cst.lightpath.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:08:06] *** illogik <illogik!~illogik@adfb3524.cst.lightpath.net> has joined #smartos[21:08:12] *** leow <leow!~leow@175.137.68.34> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:08:31] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #smartos[21:11:03] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:13:29] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has joined #smartos[21:15:22] *** illogik <illogik!~illogik@adfb3524.cst.lightpath.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[21:17:49] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~Thunderbi@2a02:1205:c6bf:1fd0:d533:207f:8cae:856d> has joined #smartos[21:17:55] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:18:05] *** illogik <illogik!~illogik@adfb3524.cst.lightpath.net> has joined #smartos[21:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:20:06] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #smartos[21:21:07] *** benthom <benthom!1848f907@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.72.249.7> has joined #smartos[21:22:41] *** illogik_ <illogik_!~illogik@adfb3524.cst.lightpath.net> has joined #smartos[21:24:25] *** illogik <illogik!~illogik@adfb3524.cst.lightpath.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:24:50] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has joined #smartos[21:32:31] *** chrisBF <chrisBF!569d2693@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.157.38.147> has joined #smartos[21:33:40] *** bixu <bixu!~bixu@2a02:8109:8a00:d10:1d48:37e7:d936:ceaa> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:39:27] *** rzezeski <rzezeski!uid151901@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nkzhsdkrxwedzugk> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[21:44:15] *** pgale61 <pgale61!~Adium@host31-48-230-75.range31-48.btcentralplus.com> has joined #smartos[21:55:50] *** tab_ <tab_!~tab_@178.208.163.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:59:56] *** tab_ <tab_!~tab_@178.208.163.168> has joined #smartos[22:05:49] <Licenser> I've something really odd, a single zone has a really horrible network after some digger I found that there is a large number of 'ipForwProhibits' but I'm utterly baffled as of why. The firewall is turned off. Rebooting the zone doesn't affect the situation, rebooting the server itself does neither. 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