January 21, 2017 
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January 21, 2017 [00:00:10] *** AndrewH <AndrewH!~Adium@cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust393.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:02:36] *** marsell1 <marsell1!~Adium@104.237.86.53> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:03:09] *** marsell <marsell!~Adium@104.237.86.62> has joined #smartos[00:04:49] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@d5152645C.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:07:51] *** nathan7 <nathan7!nathan@unaffiliated/nathan7> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:10:22] *** nathan7 <nathan7!nathan@unaffiliated/nathan7> has joined #smartos[00:15:43] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@d5152645c.access.telenet.be> has joined #smartos[00:23:26] *** polishdub <polishdub!~polishdub@208.93.128.118> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:25:14] *** tpaul <tpaul!~travispau@50.127.78.178> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:29:27] *** trentm <trentm!~Adium@S01061c1b689f0aa5.vn.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:31:54] *** wrl <wrl!~wrl@naphtha.ix.illest.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:33:06] *** wrl <wrl!~wrl@naphtha.ix.illest.net> has joined #smartos[00:41:02] *** wrl <wrl!~wrl@naphtha.ix.illest.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:41:19] *** wrl <wrl!~wrl@naphtha.ix.illest.net> has joined #smartos[00:44:55] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@90.193.56.27> has quit IRC (Quit: andy_js)[00:58:36] *** wrl <wrl!~wrl@naphtha.ix.illest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:02:20] *** marsell1 <marsell1!~Adium@104.237.86.111> has joined #smartos[01:02:55] *** marsell <marsell!~Adium@104.237.86.62> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[01:03:40] *** wrl <wrl!~wrl@naphtha.ix.illest.net> has joined #smartos[01:04:39] <terinjokes> on 20170119 and having all sorts of problems using zlogin to get into LX zones[01:06:08] <terinjokes> [Connected to zone '35ad69ac-b3bd-e27f-b4b2-a9a5dbb7cfaa' pts/2] then nothing[01:30:16] *** xmerlin <xmerlin!~xmerlin@host103-244-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:32:19] *** White_Light <White_Light!~Spacemen_@cpe-108-167-11-28.neb.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:38:43] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~Thunderbi@2a02:1205:c6bf:1fd0:91cb:26a2:824c:9b40> has quit IRC (Quit: Toasterson)[01:42:50] *** bahamat_ <bahamat_!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #smartos[01:45:18] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@2001:470:f0f4:a0a:b888:aee5:2cf2:7e18> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[01:53:41] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@174-126-190-180.cpe.cableone.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[02:02:22] *** marsell1 <marsell1!~Adium@104.237.86.111> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[02:02:48] *** marsell <marsell!~Adium@104.237.86.173> has joined #smartos[02:04:04] *** chrisBF <chrisBF!56a88298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.168.130.152> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:12:49] *** yruss972 <yruss972!~yruss972@82.166.84.224> has joined #smartos[02:13:10] *** jessfraz_ is now known as jessfraz[02:17:19] *** yruss972 <yruss972!~yruss972@82.166.84.224> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:20:07] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #smartos[02:25:14] <terinjokes> rolled back the platform[02:25:22] <terinjokes> still can't log into LX zones[02:25:27] <terinjokes> OS zones are fine[02:25:59] <rmustacc> Are you sure the networking is correct inside of the zone? A lot of linux distros have a bunch of network related checks in their startup scripts.[02:26:28] <bdha> Does `zlogin -C` behave differently than `zlogin`?[02:26:38] <terinjokes> yeah, i get a prompt[02:26:54] <terinjokes> i don't have a password set for root, so not entirely helpful[02:27:08] <bdha> You can modify the shadow file directly /zones/uuid/...[02:27:19] <bdha> (from the GZ.)[02:27:25] <terinjokes> ah, true :P[02:27:30] <rmustacc> Or for a case I had today, I just edited out the DNS resolvers.[02:27:31] <terinjokes> but the networking idea might be it[02:27:40] <rmustacc> Which basically let me get in and troubleshoot.[02:27:55] <terinjokes> i'm going through a firewall OS zone[02:28:06] <bdha> But `zlogin` fails?[02:28:07] <terinjokes> and i bet something there wasn't restarted properly[02:28:21] <bdha> (Why would broken networking affect zlogin?)[02:28:35] <terinjokes> ubuntu trying to tell me about updates?[02:28:41] <bdha> oh.[02:29:06] <bdha> Well... you can fix that from the GZ, too, I guess.[02:29:18] <bdha> (Strongly dislike that behavior.)[02:29:34] <terinjokes> in my fireware OS zone[02:29:35] <terinjokes> ipnat -FC -f /etc/ipf/ipf.conf[02:29:38] <terinjokes> and everything works again[02:30:00] <terinjokes> guess i should set that to run automatically somewhere, though i sorta expected it to happen by default[02:30:05] *** handlex <handlex!~handlex@2804:14c:658f:4dc7:489f:b4da:1449:9591> has joined #smartos[02:32:09] * terinjokes mvs to ipnat.conf[02:33:05] *** handlex <handlex!~handlex@2804:14c:658f:4dc7:489f:b4da:1449:9591> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:33:06] <rmustacc> bdha: The reason it can is because the rc scripts for example try to hit a package manager, etc. so they take a while and eventually zlogin gives up waiting.[02:33:10] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~Adium@162.217.72.254> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:34:58] <terinjokes> bdha: thanks for the mental nudge[02:35:06] <terinjokes> and rmustacc too[02:45:16] *** dap_ <dap_!~dap@208.184.5.170> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:47:37] *** io_bora <io_bora!~io_bora@toroon0624w-lp140-03-174-95-101-32.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #smartos[02:56:27] *** io_bora <io_bora!~io_bora@toroon0624w-lp140-03-174-95-101-32.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:57:50] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p54BC76AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[03:01:23] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p54BC7647.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #smartos[03:03:42] *** marsell <marsell!~Adium@104.237.86.173> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[03:04:35] *** marsell <marsell!~Adium@104.237.86.38> has joined #smartos[03:09:52] *** jayschmidt1 <jayschmidt1!~jayschmid@2605:a000:122b:183:14ec:e3a5:c36e:494f> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[03:11:31] *** forerveranewb <forerveranewb!~Adium@c-67-170-10-122.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[03:23:53] *** jelmd <jelmd!~jelmd@port-ip-88-150-13-208.reverse.mdcc-fun.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[03:36:39] *** marsell <marsell!~Adium@104.237.86.38> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:37:00] *** marsell <marsell!~Adium@104.237.86.43> has joined #smartos[03:39:49] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@208.184.5.170> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[03:39:59] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@208.184.5.170> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[03:45:24] *** jelmd <jelmd!~jelmd@port-ip-88-150-13-208.reverse.mdcc-fun.de> has joined #smartos[03:52:07] *** wiedi <wiedi!~wiedi@2a01:138:a015:15:91ff:7ab9:dad3:8444> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:01:57] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@2002:6bb8:dcb:0:2de2:7e09:8efc:5dcc> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[04:04:28] *** io_bora <io_bora!~io_bora@12.165.188.169> has joined #smartos[04:07:23] *** jessfraz <jessfraz!~jessfraz@unaffiliated/jessfraz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:08:48] *** jessfraz_ <jessfraz_!~jessfraz@unaffiliated/jessfraz> has joined #smartos[04:22:38] *** io_bora_ <io_bora_!~io_bora@toroon0624w-lp140-03-174-95-101-32.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #smartos[04:23:05] *** jessfraz_ <jessfraz_!~jessfraz@unaffiliated/jessfraz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:24:03] *** baileytj <baileytj!~baileytj@134.126.39.221> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:25:35] *** baileytj <baileytj!~baileytj@134.126.39.221> has joined #smartos[04:26:02] *** io_bora <io_bora!~io_bora@12.165.188.169> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[04:26:16] *** jessfraz_ <jessfraz_!~jessfraz@unaffiliated/jessfraz> has joined #smartos[04:27:22] *** io_bora_ <io_bora_!~io_bora@toroon0624w-lp140-03-174-95-101-32.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[04:27:22] *** j-m <j-m!~jmiller@jmiller.com> has joined #smartos[04:27:54] <ShalokShalom> hi there[04:28:03] <ShalokShalom> since Orcale drop Solaris..[04:28:16] <ShalokShalom> does Illumos care for Zones as well=[04:28:24] <ShalokShalom> ZFS? all that stuff[04:29:49] <j-m> more than larry does[04:30:51] <modernpacifist> ShalokShalom: ZFS is one of the cornerstones of Illumos and has received a lot of attention and enhancements. Zones are at the core of SmartOS[04:31:53] *** marsell <marsell!~Adium@104.237.86.43> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[04:32:00] <ShalokShalom> larry?[04:32:33] <modernpacifist> ShalokShalom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Ellison[04:32:34] <rmustacc> They're probably referring to Larry Ellison.[04:32:50] <ShalokShalom> i see, thanks[04:33:00] <rmustacc> But the broader illumos community (and Joyent) has put a lot of effort and work into zones, ZFS, etc.[04:33:04] <ShalokShalom> so, SmartOS basically care about a whole OS?[04:33:20] <ShalokShalom> besides of Illumos, the kernel[04:33:22] <ShalokShalom> userspace?[04:34:04] <ShalokShalom> which Illumos based operating systems are recommended by SmartOS?[04:34:54] <rmustacc> SmartOS is an illumos based operating system.[04:36:02] <rmustacc> Could you clarify your question?[04:37:23] *** ShalokShalom <ShalokShalom!~quassel@193-80-243-139.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:37:30] *** ShalokShalom_ <ShalokShalom_!~quassel@193-80-243-139.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #smartos[04:40:02] *** j-m <j-m!~jmiller@jmiller.com> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[04:44:04] *** j-m <j-m!~jmiller@jmiller.com> has joined #smartos[04:44:09] *** Cthalupa <Cthalupa!~cthulhu@47.186.8.229> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[04:46:04] *** jessfraz_ <jessfraz_!~jessfraz@unaffiliated/jessfraz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[04:51:13] <ShalokShalom_> rmustacc: SmartOS is meant to be run as pure VM, yes?[04:51:17] <ShalokShalom_> No desktop and so?[04:51:25] *** ShalokShalom_ is now known as ShalokShalom[04:53:21] *** jessfraz_ <jessfraz_!~jessfraz@unaffiliated/jessfraz> has joined #smartos[04:53:41] <rzezeski> SmartOS is typically used as a hypervisor for running VMs (both KVM and Zones)[04:53:51] <rzezeski> It is not designed for desktop use[04:54:03] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@174-126-190-180.cpe.cableone.net> has joined #smartos[04:55:51] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@174-126-190-180.cpe.cableone.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:02:15] <ShalokShalom> BSD runs as well in SmartOS?[05:02:48] <ShalokShalom> Zones are something like jails?[05:02:51] <ShalokShalom> from BSD?[05:03:08] <ShalokShalom> and which Illumos based OS is recommended for the usage of Zones?[05:04:47] <modernpacifist> ShalokShalom: BSDs distros can run inside a hardware virtual machine under KVM which SmartOS supports. Zones are similar in terms of security/confinement to jails but behave more akin to a virtual machine in terms of the environment they provide. Illumos has excellent support for zones yes[05:09:24] *** jessfraz_ <jessfraz_!~jessfraz@unaffiliated/jessfraz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[05:11:50] <j-m> but the KVM runs inside a Zone as well[05:12:16] <ShalokShalom> thanks a lot[05:12:22] <ShalokShalom> KCM in Zone?[05:12:26] <ShalokShalom> *KVM[05:12:34] <ShalokShalom> doesnt cost that lots of performance?[05:12:38] <ShalokShalom> since VM in VM[05:12:47] <ShalokShalom> modernpacifist: cool nick ;)[05:12:47] <modernpacifist> Zones have no performance penalty[05:12:51] <ShalokShalom> ah?[05:12:52] <ShalokShalom> nice[05:12:56] <ShalokShalom> how that?[05:13:01] <rmustacc> Zones use OS virtualization.[05:13:06] <ShalokShalom> aha..[05:13:16] <ShalokShalom> and why run KVM in Zones?[05:13:21] <rmustacc> Why not?[05:13:25] <ShalokShalom> and why not recommended for desktop use?[05:13:33] <ShalokShalom> GPU and WLAN drivers?[05:13:37] <rmustacc> Because we don't graphics drivers or X.[05:13:42] <rmustacc> *don't ship[05:13:49] <ShalokShalom> ah i see[05:13:52] <ShalokShalom> not at all?[05:13:57] <ShalokShalom> thats hard[05:14:03] <rmustacc> The global zone isn't designed for persistant data.[05:14:04] <ShalokShalom> and an OS that runs in your Zone?[05:14:11] <modernpacifist> SmartOS is designed as a hypervisor, similar to ESXi[05:14:15] <ShalokShalom> like OpenIndiana[05:14:24] <ShalokShalom> yeah, pure live OS[05:14:49] <rmustacc> Other illumos distros provide X, etc. So if you need a desktop, I'd point you there.[05:15:23] <arekinath> but honestly the desktop is not really a point of strength for illumos in general, we lack a lot of drivers for desktop-class hardware[05:15:31] <ShalokShalom> and can i run them in your zone?[05:15:49] <modernpacifist> You can't run another illumos distro inside a SmartOS zone[05:16:09] <ShalokShalom> so, when zones run without any performance penalty, it makes a fine foundation to run different OS in the same time?[05:16:11] <rmustacc> A zone shares the same kernel[05:16:13] <rmustacc> *kernel[05:16:14] <arekinath> modernpacifist: wellllll that's not completely true. :P[05:16:14] <arekinath> but if you did, it wouldn't get any control of the hardware. zones don't have their own kernel[05:16:30] <arekinath> all the zones on the system are talking to the same kernel[05:16:35] <ShalokShalom> so what to put in a Zone?[05:16:49] <ShalokShalom> i thought they are exclusively for Illumos[05:17:02] <rmustacc> Well, whatever you want to run?[05:17:16] <modernpacifist> ShalokShalom: You put the application(s) inside the zone[05:17:17] <rmustacc> For example, databases, web servers, development, etc.[05:17:22] <ShalokShalom> ah ok[05:17:26] <ShalokShalom> so not for whole OS[05:17:29] <ShalokShalom> like KVM[05:17:31] <ShalokShalom> right?[05:17:39] <ShalokShalom> more like jails[05:17:41] <rmustacc> Well, you have what looks and feels like its own system.[05:17:42] <ShalokShalom> kk[05:17:50] <rmustacc> But you do not have your own kernel.[05:18:00] <ShalokShalom> ok, thats fine[05:18:09] <ShalokShalom> like jails, as said[05:18:12] <rmustacc> So you install packages, etc.[05:18:12] <modernpacifist> arekinath: So I could put a desktop-oriented distro into a zone with no direct control of graphics/audio hardware. Excellent :)[05:18:13] *** Cthalupa <Cthalupa!~cthulhu@47.186.8.229> has joined #smartos[05:18:17] <ShalokShalom> thanks a lot for pointing that out[05:18:24] <arekinath> modernpacifist: you could run x11vnc or something :P[05:18:32] <rmustacc> modernpacifist: If you wanted to rebuild all its packages against our platform, sure. ;)[05:19:53] <modernpacifist> Oh good - suddenly the effort to install anything goes through the roof[05:20:25] <modernpacifist> And of course the underlying knowledge that I'm forcing the platform into something it doesn't want to do[05:20:26] <arekinath> modernpacifist: I never said it was practical or useful, just possible :P[05:21:19] <modernpacifist> arekinath: Heh I'm aware - I'm good with OS X for the moment. Can I expect openindiana support for the touch bar any time soon? :P[05:21:49] <arekinath> modernpacifist: depends how long it takes you to write it[05:22:16] <modernpacifist> Well my cat is currently watching the lemmings walk across it, so I don't like my chances[05:23:28] *** jessfraz_ <jessfraz_!~jessfraz@unaffiliated/jessfraz> has joined #smartos[05:31:05] *** j-m <j-m!~jmiller@jmiller.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:32:16] *** forerveranewb <forerveranewb!~Adium@c-67-170-10-122.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has joined #smartos[06:01:43] *** baileytj_ <baileytj_!~baileytj@134.126.39.221> has joined #smartos[06:02:50] *** iaglium <iaglium!U2FsdGVkX1@ma.sdf.org> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:04:14] *** baileytj <baileytj!~baileytj@134.126.39.221> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[06:06:20] *** mhicks <mhicks!~Adium@ip72-192-145-123.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[06:06:40] *** forerveranewb 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We made that a concious choice.[16:59:19] <rmustacc> All you need from a switch is jumbo frames and vlans.[17:02:39] <poige_> if you're going to have aggregated links -- not only those[17:04:50] <rmustacc> Sure, if you want aggregations, you need LACP and LACP fallback.[17:13:48] *** leow <leow!~leow@175.137.68.34> has joined #smartos[17:16:19] *** poige_ <poige_!~textual@183.89.138.146> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:25:43] <jzu_> yeah, Huawei has LACP but LACP fallback I need to investigate[17:27:08] <jzu_> http://e.huawei.com/en/products/enterprise-networking/switches/data-center-switches/ce6800[17:27:21] <jzu_> better 'bang-for-the-buck' compared to Cisco[17:29:11] *** poige_ <poige_!~textual@183.89.138.146> has joined #smartos[17:29:51] *** io_bora <io_bora!~io_bora@toroon0624w-lp140-03-174-95-101-32.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #smartos[17:31:20] *** forerveranewb <forerveranewb!~Adium@c-67-170-10-122.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[17:31:35] <jzu_> ok, Dynamic LACP seems to be a different term for LACP fallback, correct?[17:32:07] <rmustacc> I have no idea, sorry.[17:35:02] *** io_bora <io_bora!~io_bora@toroon0624w-lp140-03-174-95-101-32.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[17:40:33] <poige_> Where did you find this "Dynamic LACP"?[17:43:16] <jzu_> Google[17:43:24] <jzu_> LACPDU exchange in static and dynamic LACP modes is the same, but the processing upon an LACP negotiation failure is different:[17:43:32] <jzu_> In static LACP mode, an Eth-Trunk becomes Down and cannot forward data after an LACP negotiation failure.[17:43:43] <jzu_> In dynamic LACP mode, an Eth-Trunk becomes Down after an LACP negotiation failure, but its member interfaces inherit VLAN attributes of the Eth-Trunk and enter the Indep state. The member interfaces can still forward data at Layer 2.[17:44:07] <jzu_> After a device configured with an Eth-Trunk in dynamic LACP mode receives LACPDUs from the remote device, the two devices will use LACPDUs to negotiate link aggregation parameters. 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