January 17, 2017 
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January 17, 2017 [00:01:33] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@cpe-104-228-216-170.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #smartos[00:03:07] *** Gathis <Gathis!~TheBlack@unaffiliated/gathis> has quit IRC (Quit: ...)[00:03:12] *** EasyNT <EasyNT!~EasyNT@94.230.210.20> has joined #smartos[00:03:18] *** EasyNT <EasyNT!~EasyNT@94.230.210.20> has left #smartos[00:29:59] *** gh34 <gh34!~textual@66.195.151.70> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[00:33:40] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:35:36] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #smartos[00:39:42] *** marsell <marsell!~Adium@202.82.130.123> has joined #smartos[00:46:30] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:47:58] *** headw01 <headw01!~billhead@209.63.38.162> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:52:25] *** zaolin <zaolin!~quassel@lunarius.fe80.eu> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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I cannot seem to find the right docs on controlling file systems within zones. Could someone kindly point me in the right direction?[02:47:46] <modernpacifist> dyre17: What do you mean by controlling?[02:49:25] <dyre17> Can you control limits? Or is the entire space of the zpool available to each zone?[02:50:05] <modernpacifist> Each zone has a 'quota' parameter specified during creation that places a limit on how much space its zfs dataset (and delegate if provisioned) can consume[02:50:29] <dyre17> Ok, thanks, will look for that in the docs[02:53:45] *** dyre17 <dyre17!18ef41ec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.239.65.236> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[02:59:16] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p54BC7638.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:03:49] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p54BC7624.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #smartos[03:17:08] *** ChrisJames02170 <ChrisJames02170!~py@ool-1826eaa1.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[03:21:13] *** Cthalupa <Cthalupa!~cthulhu@47.186.8.229> has joined #smartos[03:30:54] *** jocthbr_ is now known as JonathanFalcao[03:31:06] *** JonathanFalcao is now known as jocthbr[03:34:54] *** ChrisJames02170 <ChrisJames02170!~py@ool-1826eaa1.dyn.optonline.net> 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yruss972 <yruss972!~yruss972@91.184.205.4> has joined #smartos[09:37:45] *** KermitTheFragger <KermitTheFragger!~KermitThe@gateway.serviceplanet.nl> has joined #smartos[09:45:48] <tuxillo> moin[09:59:52] *** AndrewH <AndrewH!~Adium@cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust393.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #smartos[10:00:44] *** jessfraz_ <jessfraz_!~jessfraz@unaffiliated/jessfraz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[10:03:59] *** jessfraz_ <jessfraz_!~jessfraz@unaffiliated/jessfraz> has joined #smartos[10:09:44] *** _Tenchi_ <_Tenchi_!~phil@207-255-68-080-dhcp.aoo.pa.atlanticbb.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:13:04] <jperkin> poige: the checksum on the page is correct, so your download is either incomplete or corrupted[10:13:26] <jperkin> hence also giving you the correct size of the download so you can verify which of those things it is[10:18:27] *** GS <GS!~GS@pD9EE8D08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #smartos[10:18:48] *** GS is now known as Guest1069[10:20:31] 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I tested the script on 3 different lx zones with the same problem (ubuntu 16.04, debian 8, centos 7) I used the same ruby version for all the tests (2.3.1). I'm not sure if this a smartos related problem or ruby. Do you have an idea ? thank you very much[14:36:03] *** igork <igork!~igork@91.204.58.44> has joined #smartos[14:38:18] <kevinard> to be more specific, when the script create a thread, it seems to never come back to the main script and stays stuck in the new thread[14:42:07] *** gh34 <gh34!~textual@66.195.151.70> has joined #smartos[14:58:13] *** Gathis <Gathis!~TheBlack@unaffiliated/gathis> has joined #smartos[15:11:36] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@cpe-104-228-216-170.maine.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:14:51] *** kimc <kimc!~kimc@pdpc/supporter/professional/kimc> has joined #smartos[15:22:43] *** techsolo <techsolo!~techsolo@d515223fe.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:25:21] *** techsolo <techsolo!~techsolo@d515223FE.access.telenet.be> has joined #smartos[15:38:06] *** zaolin <zaolin!~quassel@lunarius.fe80.eu> has joined #smartos[15:48:24] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #smartos[15:48:31] *** cburroughs <cburroughs!~cburrough@pool-71-120-19-48.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #smartos[15:59:50] *** leow <leow!~leow@175.137.71.175> has joined #smartos[16:03:04] *** techsolo <techsolo!~techsolo@d515223FE.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:04:16] *** scarcry <scarcry!~scarcry@2001:980:93d7:1:80c9:7fff:fe0f:aaf8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:06:09] *** scarcry <scarcry!~scarcry@2001:980:93d7:1:80c9:7fff:fe0f:aaf8> has joined #smartos[16:13:58] *** mhicks <mhicks!~Adium@ip72-192-145-123.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #smartos[16:17:48] *** techsolo <techsolo!~techsolo@ptr-utfi8zormqomxd6ctt.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #smartos[16:36:29] *** bennabiy <bennabiy!~bennabiy@unaffiliated/bennabiy> has joined #smartos[16:37:15] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@50-93-248-179.fttp.usinternet.com> has joined #smartos[16:47:01] *** techsolo <techsolo!~techsolo@ptr-utfi8zormqomxd6ctt.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:59:07] <jzu_> 512n HDD: 512 byte sectors on the drive media.[16:59:08] <jzu_> 512e (e=emulation) HDD: 4K physical sectors on the drive media with 512 byte logical configuration[16:59:36] <jzu_> I guess 4k physical sectors is not a problem on SmartOS/Illumos?[16:59:48] <jzu_> Fujitsu has HDD's as "512n" and "512e"[17:00:10] <rmustacc> In general I'd either use 512n or 4kn[17:00:11] <jzu_> but larger drives are obviously only available as 512e (4-10TB)[17:00:30] <rmustacc> Most larger drives are available as 4kn[17:00:49] <rmustacc> e.g. all the 8 TB HGST drives that we buy come in a 512e or 4kn.[17:01:09] <jzu_> Fujitsu seems to list only larger drives as 512e in their RX2540M2 chassis configurator it seems[17:01:21] <jzu_> https://sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/Publications/public/cnfgRX2540M2.pdf - page #19[17:04:29] <jzu_> "Among the hard disks currently on offer for PRIMERGY servers 4k technology is realized solely in the formof these 512e HDDs. In this case, the emulation of the 512-byte sectors is consistently enabled, a switchingmode to 4k native does not exist." PDF from 2014[17:06:07] *** headw01 <headw01!~billhead@209.63.38.162> has joined #smartos[17:07:50] <jzu_> so the 512 byte native disks max out at 4TB then according to Fujitsu's part catalog[17:09:36] *** techsolo <techsolo!~techsolo@d515223fe.access.telenet.be> has joined #smartos[17:10:47] *** kevinard <kevinard!6dbed86c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.190.216.108> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[17:11:16] *** kevinard <kevinard!6dbed86c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.190.216.108> has joined #smartos[17:26:42] *** alcir <alcir!~alcir@159.213.59.142> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:27:31] *** KermitTheFragger <KermitTheFragger!~KermitThe@gateway.serviceplanet.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:31:07] *** dap_ <dap_!~dap@208.184.5.170> has joined #smartos[17:31:28] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@208.184.5.170> has joined #smartos[17:31:40] *** kiraid <kiraid!~kiraid@host-69-145-90-1.hln-mt.client.bresnan.net> has joined #smartos[17:35:55] *** kiraid <kiraid!~kiraid@host-69-145-90-1.hln-mt.client.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:42:30] *** techsolo <techsolo!~techsolo@d515223fe.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:42:49] *** headw01 <headw01!~billhead@209.63.38.162> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:43:03] *** kiraid <kiraid!~kiraid@host-69-145-90-1.hln-mt.client.bresnan.net> has joined #smartos[17:44:10] *** headw01 <headw01!~billhead@209.63.38.162> has joined #smartos[17:53:27] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #smartos[17:57:05] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@111.14.208.151> has joined #smartos[18:01:07] *** techsolo <techsolo!~techsolo@ptr-uhl1833n8ca9lthwnl.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #smartos[18:03:42] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@111.14.208.151> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:04:47] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[18:04:59] *** kevinard <kevinard!6dbed86c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.190.216.108> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:06:09] *** yruss972 <yruss972!~yruss972@91.184.205.4> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:06:45] *** AndrewH <AndrewH!~Adium@cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust393.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[18:08:06] *** yruss972 <yruss972!~yruss972@91.184.205.4> has joined #smartos[18:12:32] *** yruss972 <yruss972!~yruss972@91.184.205.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:16:56] *** jellydonut <jellydonut!~jelly@216.165.251.212.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[18:17:37] *** fxhp <fxhp!~fox@172.85.28.36> has joined #smartos[18:17:41] *** trentm <trentm!~Adium@199.58.193.130> has joined #smartos[18:20:19] *** bens1 <bens1!~bens1@161.122.2.81.in-addr.arpa> has quit IRC (Quit: bens1)[18:20:27] *** jellydonut <jellydonut!~jelly@2.150.49.72.tmi.telenormobil.no> has joined #smartos[18:24:36] *** jellydonut <jellydonut!~jelly@2.150.49.72.tmi.telenormobil.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:25:45] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@50-93-248-179.fttp.usinternet.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[18:27:58] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@50-93-248-179.fttp.usinternet.com> has joined #smartos[18:40:43] <iFire> I wonder if anyone uses nvme drives as their default.[18:40:51] <iFire> for their server purchases[18:41:25] <nbjoerg> I would, next time I buy a machine :)[18:42:44] *** forerveranewb <forerveranewb!~Adium@c-67-170-10-122.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has joined #smartos[18:53:29] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@50-93-248-179.fttp.usinternet.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[18:56:46] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@111.14.208.151> has joined #smartos[18:57:23] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@111.14.208.151> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:01:37] *** _Tenchi_ <_Tenchi_!~phil@207-255-68-080-dhcp.aoo.pa.atlanticbb.net> has joined #smartos[19:05:50] *** jellydonut <jellydonut!~jelly@216.165.251.212.customer.cdi.no> has joined #smartos[19:16:53] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@208.184.5.170> has joined #smartos[19:22:13] *** o0beaner <o0beaner!4815c444@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.21.196.68> has joined #smartos[19:23:46] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~Adium@astound-66-234-218-247.ca.astound.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[19:24:46] <o0beaner> hey all, I'm dealing with an issue on my host that I cannot seem to sort: logins to my zones recently started taking a very long time (10+ seconds) even on my local network. logging into the global zone does not have the same behavior. performance inside of the zones is fine. iostat/vmstat/netstat show that utilization is not an issue. Any thoughts?[19:25:31] <o0beaner> Also, just for clarification, the issue exists whether using SSH to connect to a zone over the network, or using zlogin from within the GZ.[19:25:45] <nahamu> o0beaner: any recent changes?[19:25:53] *** backspace <backspace!~HULK@c-573ce555.016-114-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has left #smartos ("WeeChat 1.0.1")[19:26:45] <nahamu> Are these ubuntu LX zones or all different types of zones?[19:26:53] <o0beaner> ive built a few new zones, but the issue did not begin exhibiting itself until well after that. also, stopping numerous zones (including all of the new ones) makes no difference. i haven't made any non-zone-creation changes to the host[19:27:05] <o0beaner> theyre a mixture of ubuntu and cent LX zones[19:27:13] <ira> o0beaner: How is DNS in the zone?[19:27:28] <ira> Especially reverse...[19:27:37] <nahamu> yeah, like ira I'd be inclined to be suspicious about DNS failures within the zones.[19:27:46] <nahamu> also, ira, long time no see... hi! :)[19:27:52] <ira> nahamu: Indeed.[19:27:59] <tgerczei> same here but zlogin wouldn't care much, would it[19:28:06] <ira> zlogin shouldn't.[19:28:18] <nahamu> I've seen it slow down zlogin on ubuntu LX.[19:28:23] <tgerczei> hence my ditching the thought[19:28:25] <tgerczei> oh?[19:28:27] <ira> Though I'd check it.[19:28:31] <o0beaner> zlogin is odd; the joyent logo will appear, and then it will just hang for several seconds before the shell appears[19:28:37] <ira> It is an easy check...[19:28:37] <o0beaner> still checking into dns issues, for kicks[19:28:41] <nahamu> yeah, that's a DNS issue I bet.[19:28:46] <bahamat> o0beaner: What kind of image is it?[19:28:51] <tgerczei> I've seen this on unsupported hardware[19:29:05] <bahamat> tgerczei: Shouldn't have anything to do with hardware.[19:29:09] <nahamu> the ubuntu zones in particular do a bunch of goofy stuff over the network to e.g. check for available updates on login.[19:29:15] <o0beaner> most are ubuntu 14.04 lx zones, and a couple centos7 lx zones[19:29:20] <nahamu> if DNS lookups are failing, that stuff has to time out.[19:29:28] <tgerczei> bahamat: in my case the entire box was flaky, sometimes stuff just hung[19:29:46] <nahamu> I'd do a zlogin on one zone, wait until you finally get in, then verify DNS and other network connectivity isn't broken.[19:29:46] <tgerczei> nahamu: true, ubuntu has that[19:29:49] <o0beaner> it feels like it could be a timeout thing... the delays all seem to be pretty similar in length[19:29:50] <tgerczei> but centos doesn't[19:29:54] <bahamat> o0beaner: The ubuntu ones run apt-get update and block until it's finished.[19:30:36] <ira> on zlogin?![19:30:46] <nahamu> ira: yes. it makes me angry.[19:31:01] <ira> that's a cause for a "image fix" if I ever saw one ;)[19:31:04] <tgerczei> that should be neutered[19:31:08] <nahamu> it's part of the shell profile or something so zlogin or ssh, either one.[19:31:08] <tgerczei> yeah[19:31:16] <ira> I used to build my own images... so ;)[19:31:31] <ira> (That's why I wrote imgserv.)[19:32:06] <ira> I think joyent has likely open sourced theirs by now... I'd use that.. .but :)[19:32:52] <o0beaner> gotta be kidding me, it was dns. thank you guys so much. primary server was failing recursion.[19:33:01] * ira bows.[19:33:18] <ira> It happens man :)[19:33:22] <o0beaner> well, apparently cent has similar behavior to the ubuntu images, for what it's worth[19:33:27] <o0beaner> because it had the same issue as the others[19:33:30] <bahamat> ira: imgapi now has a "standalone" mode that can operate independent of a headnode.[19:33:32] <tgerczei> yeah, I'll need to note that[19:33:52] <ira> bahmat, so you can run the server side on any given node?[19:34:23] <ira> Or anything that supports node.js?[19:34:50] <bahamat> ira: I think anything that supports node.js.[19:35:22] *** yruss972 <yruss972!~yruss972@212.50.96.30> has joined #smartos[19:35:25] <ira> Nice... I should throw a README.md on my project that redirects to your stuff.[19:35:56] <ira> (I wrote an imgadm server before there was an open source one from Joyent.)[19:35:57] <bahamat> ira: https://github.com/joyent/sdc-imgapi/blob/master/docs/operator-guide.md#standalone-setup[19:36:44] <bahamat> Oh, looks like it's not 100% independent.[19:38:16] <bahamat> ira: Though, in theory one could just fetch the source then npm install it.[19:38:39] <bahamat> That obviously wouldn't be as turnkey though.[19:40:23] <ira> It is probably a better answer than the server I wrote 3+ years ago, and never supported KVM images ;).[19:41:04] <ira> (Though I will guarantee, my server is likely simpler ;) )[19:41:23] <ira> Flask + Bottle made it really easy.[19:46:58] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@208.184.5.170> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[19:47:13] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@208.184.5.170> has joined #smartos[20:00:24] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@172.56.12.31> has joined #smartos[20:05:27] *** cburroughs <cburroughs!~cburrough@pool-71-120-19-48.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:15:26] *** illogik <illogik!~illogik@adfb3524.cst.lightpath.net> has joined #smartos[20:18:25] *** cburroughs <cburroughs!~cburrough@8.12.47.4> has joined #smartos[20:31:41] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~wizard113@173-132-24-235.pools.spcsdns.net> has joined #smartos[20:34:43] <wizard113> For non-npm apps, is there a better (read: more triton-esque) way to handle log forwarding than setting up logstash and such?[20:43:00] <bahamat> wizard113: Well, there isn't anything in particular "triton-esque". 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