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[00:00:23] <JoeJulian> Well, there's the systemd cgroup, but kubelet fails looking for the cpu cgroup.
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[00:05:30] <konobi> oh... hi JoeJulian !
[00:05:46] <nbjoerg> rmustacc: given that I get a lot of spewing about logical alignment being different from the pool alignment with the old disks in the machine
[00:06:12] <nbjoerg> rmustacc: I kind of suspect that the kernel is updating its view during boot and that changes some partition sizes or so
[00:06:27] <nbjoerg> but I don't really know what that assert is supposed to ensure :)
[00:10:28] <konobi> anyone been using any Intel AMT tooling for use with smartos?
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[00:33:19] <jcea> fast question: How can I check how much memory is using each native zone?
[00:33:27] <jcea> in memory and in swap
[00:34:09] <jcea> hummm, prstat -Z
[00:34:11] <jcea> :-p
[00:34:20] <jcea> in the global zone. Anything better?
[00:34:39] <rmustacc> zonememstat?
[00:34:52] <jcea> oh, great!
[00:35:01] <jcea> where are those commands documented?
[00:35:56] <rmustacc> In its manual page or are you looking for something else?
[00:36:43] <jcea> manual pages are useful when you already know the name of the command
[00:37:13] <jcea> I am interested in knowing what useful commands are available (beside just scanning /usr/sbin :-)
[00:37:30] <rmustacc> I thought that's what you were getting at, but wanted to be certain and not assume.
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[00:42:51] <konobi> any joyent folks know if the QA Lab code for testing automation is still kicking around anywhere and if it's on github at all?
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[00:45:50] <konobi> (and yes, the code existed, it worked and it would create SDC deployments on reserved hardware for running automated testing... just not sure if it's in use anymore)
[00:50:37] <bahamat> konobi: I've never seen it.
[00:51:17] <bahamat> Not saying it was deleted, but if I have seen it, I didn't recognize it as what you describe.
[00:51:34] <konobi> yeah, it'd have been a good while before you started
[00:52:11] <konobi> was in action during the 6.5 -> Triton transition, so it may have fallen off the radar
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[00:53:02] <konobi> but it was setup for the engineering QA Lab that's racked up (still?)
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[00:53:37] <bahamat> Eng does have some dedicated gear, but I couldn't say as to whether or not that's "still" or "replacement"
[00:55:48] <konobi> still in the DC up north?
[00:57:02] <bahamat> "up north" is relative. It's north of me, but I'm in San Diego, so not much in the U.S. is south of me.
[00:59:38] <konobi> bellingham, iirc
[01:04:13] <bahamat> Nope, nothing there.
[01:05:27] <konobi> ah, k... so that lab was taken down
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[11:05:39] <tuxillo> moin
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[13:38:17] <steven43126> when using triton is there a way to specify zfs compression for a zone ?
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[15:03:39] <nahamu> steven43126: you mean via cloudapi? I don't think so.
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[15:09:52] <steven43126> nahamu: yeh i meant via cloudapi. Running smartos we have become accoustomed to and lean on delegated datasets and zfs encryption, but these aren't usable on triton
[15:10:27] <steven43126> Looks like there is an RFD for adding delagated datasets to cloudapi in pre-draft but no idea of timescales for that one
[15:10:44] <steven43126> we certainly find delagated datasets useful for our usecases
[15:11:08] <steven43126> s/encryption/compression/
[15:13:07] <nahamu> steven43126: Yeah, they are very useful features and my sense is the Joyent folks will expose them in CloudAPI after they figure out a safe way to do it.
[15:13:38] <nahamu> One option for compression is you can just turn it on for the whole zones pool on your compute nodes. I think that should flow down to everything else on the box.
[15:14:06] <steven43126> nahamu: yeh i had considered that but undecided if was a good idea to enable for everything by default
[15:14:27] <nahamu> Personally, I think on modern hardware lz4 is a no-brainer at this point.
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[15:15:45] <steven43126> delegated datasets let us do some useful fine tuning for mysql datasets for example tuning arccache to avoud doublecaching, recordsize, compression etc. We also have a nifty tool for backing up datasets to object storage using incremental snapshots which is quite nifty
[15:16:27] <steven43126> which is also incredibly useful for seeing new slaves :)
[15:16:36] <steven43126> s/seeing/seeding/
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[15:17:50] <steven43126> enabling compression on the zones pool with lz4 solves one of our issues, hopefully delgated datasets via cloudapi lands eventually :)
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[15:28:21] <nahamu> yeah, delegated datasets are great for databases.
[15:29:49] <nahamu> If you're running your own Triton cluster and you have a small number of critical databases, it is possible to go off into unsupported land and manually add a delegated dataset after the fact with zfs and zonecfg.
[15:30:27] <jperkin> or if you have support you can do it via adminui
[15:30:44] <nahamu> oh, clearly I should poke further at adminui.
[15:31:03] <nahamu> jperkin: you mean provision a new zone with a delegated dataset at zone creation time, right?
[15:31:28] <nahamu> yes, forget everything I just said about zfs and zonecfg. Set up you database zones from adminui with delegated datasets.
[15:31:31] <jperkin> um, no support needed of course, thinking of portal. and yeh, at creation time
[15:31:34] <steven43126> nahamu: yeh thats what were intending to do for a small number of instances (db's specifically) but it would be nice to offer the same functionallity to everyone without requiring operator access
[15:32:14] <nahamu> yeah, I know the Joyent folks are aware of how nice it would be.
[15:32:29] <nahamu> There are a few related RFDs where you can see their thinking on how to do it.
[15:32:39] <steven43126> i was also assuming you could just create a vm with vmadm and have triton know about it but not manage it necessarily which i think shold work fine but as yet untested
[15:33:27] <nahamu> yeah, but if adminui lets you tweak that knob, better to just use that.
[15:33:54] <steven43126> sure didn't realise adminui had the delgated dataset option at all
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[15:48:08] <nahamu> same
[15:48:25] <nahamu> good thing jperkin is online. :)
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[16:05:59] <Aapzak> hi guys, config mgmt, looks like ansible supports our beloved OS better than puppet, what is your experience?
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[16:07:37] <jperkin> I use ansible, works great
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[16:14:41] <steven43126> puppet user here at scale in production no issues
[16:18:18] <steven43126> ^for some value of scale anyway
[16:19:20] <Aapzak> steven43126: puppet doesn't touch the global zones I presume?
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[16:24:44] <steven43126> Aapzak: as of right now it does to configure some custom bits in smartos but thats just managed via puppet apply rather than a puppet master
[16:25:13] <steven43126> Aapzak: not something we want to maintain though and were looking at dropping smartos for triton
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[19:43:52] <tat-> any trick for tuning the network performance on linux machines running in KVM on smartos? currently getting max ~700Mbit network IO on my VM using virtio.
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[19:47:20] <nahamu> Best trick for better network performance is switch to LX if you can.
[19:48:02] <nahamu> That's not always an option, but sadly there's not a whole lot you can do to improve the network performance there.
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[19:48:45] <tat-> I see, thanks
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[19:49:32] <nahamu> there may be some obscure tricks where you can trade slightly higher latency for slightly higher throughput, but I can't remember how you would go about doing that.
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[20:10:22] <miller7> Can someone help me setting up an lx zone but with specific network setup (gateway in another network). I cannot seem to make it work. If someone is good with setting up lx zone with default routes etc can please message me? I can use the IP on the host and it´s pingable but not inside the lx linux zone :/
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[20:16:49] <miller7> how can I bridge the IP of the zone and the gateway of the host in two different networks?
[20:17:25] <miller7> if I try to add routes from within the lx zone I am not allowed (as expected)
[20:18:30] <melloc> miller7: You can specify additional routes on the VM object using `vmadm update', or you can use the route(1M) command under /native.
[20:20:08] <miller7> melloc: ah, thanks so much. I will try the vmadm update as it seems simpler
[20:20:16] <miller7> (for a noob like me, I mean)
[20:20:40] <melloc> It'll also make sure it's persistent across reboots, which I imagine you'll want.
[20:23:54] <miller7> melloc: indeed, that´s the desire
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[20:32:05] <JoBbZ> Trying to create a new VM, but I get an odd error
[20:32:09] <JoBbZ> [root@0c-c4-7a-c2-a3-06 ~]# vmadm create -f /opt/ub16-vagrant.json
[20:32:09] <JoBbZ> Conflict detected with another vm, please check the MAC, IP, and VRID
[20:33:11] <JoBbZ> json is https://paste.fedoraproject.org/526372/49587148/
[20:33:30] <JoBbZ> I don't have a mac or VRID specified, and none of my VMs are using the ip I chose (192.168.1.24)
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[20:34:54] <JoBbZ> interesting, it was the IP
[20:35:00] <JoBbZ> even though nothing is using that IP in anything I've defined
[20:35:36] <bahamat> JoBbZ: Is this on-prem or in Joyent's cloud?
[20:35:49] <JoBbZ> on-prem
[20:35:52] <JoBbZ> my own box @ home
[20:37:36] <bahamat> Looks like you've got a stale nic in there somewhere.
[20:37:38] <bahamat> Try this: sdc-napi /nics | json -Ha -c 'this.ip=="192.168.1.24"'
[20:38:31] <JoBbZ> commadn not found
[20:38:44] <bahamat> Do that in the global zone of your headnode.
[20:39:04] <JoBbZ> I assume you mean in smartos itself by that...
[20:39:14] <JoBbZ> which is where I'm at... same place I run vmadm, etc, from
[20:39:21] <miller7> melloc: it is weird. I added the "default" route in the json file but zone is in "provisioning" state.
[20:39:26] <bahamat> JoBbZ: Is this standalone smartos?
[20:39:32] <JoBbZ> yes, on my usb key
[20:39:39] <JoBbZ> plugged into the back of my server :P
[20:42:00] <miller7> how can I debug a vmadm create? There's no --verbose or similar from what I can see
[20:42:29] <bahamat> JoBbZ: Then try this: `grep -l 192.168.1.24 /etc/zones/*.xml`
[20:42:53] <bahamat> miller7: Well, let's start with what error your're getting.
[20:43:28] <miller7> bahamat: I don't get an error, vmadm create -f file.json just hangs and zone is state "provisioning" forever
[20:43:46] <bahamat> miller7: Then something inside the zone isn't progressing.
[20:44:18] <bahamat> So, zlogin to it and use things like ps, ptree to see what it's doing and where it's hung.
[20:44:53] <miller7> routeinfo <defunct> it says
[20:45:13] <bahamat> So that might be part of it.
[20:45:36] <bahamat> Use ptree -c to see what its parent is, and note the contract id
[20:45:53] <bahamat> Then use `svcs -o fmri,ctid` and cross reference the contract id
[20:45:53] <JoBbZ> bahamat: Yep, that comes back with a VM that was deleted
[20:46:19] <bahamat> JoBbZ: If there's still an xml file in /etc/zones then it wasn't fully deleted for some reason.
[20:46:40] <JoBbZ> hm, actually... that's for a VM that exists, but that's not the IP it uses
[20:46:49] <bahamat> Either that, or it wasn't actually deleted at all.
[20:47:12] <bahamat> JoBbZ: vmadm get <uuid> for that zone to see what IPs it has.
[20:47:36] <bahamat> JoBbZ: And `zlogin <uuid> ipadm show-addr` to see which IPs it has assigned on interfaces.
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[20:47:55] <JoBbZ> yeah it's odd... the system is on .25
[20:47:59] <JoBbZ> but vmadm get shows .24
[20:48:33] <bahamat> Well that's where your conflict is coming from.
[20:48:44] <JoBbZ> and zlogin doesn't exist
[20:48:51] <JoBbZ> or hm, it does
[20:48:54] <JoBbZ> but it doesn't like that syntax
[20:49:29] <bahamat> Maybe need to quote it `zlogin <uuid> 'ipadm show-addr'`
[20:49:45] <JoBbZ> it doesn't appear to like anything I try
[20:50:02] <JoBbZ> [root@0c-c4-7a-c2-a3-06 ~]# zlogin 6cfd0ed3-a398-42a8-8854-9780afac9f5a ls
[20:50:02] <JoBbZ> zlogin: exec failure: No such file or directory
[20:50:03] <JoBbZ> etc
[20:50:13] <JoBbZ> no matter the command, I get exec failure
[20:50:26] <bahamat> What brand is it?
[20:50:41] <JoBbZ> the system? it's ubuntu16
[20:50:55] <bahamat> Is it lx or kvm?
[20:51:00] <JoBbZ> kvm
[20:51:36] <bahamat> Well that's why.
[20:51:40] <JoBbZ> hm, on my lxc box, I get a ipadm not found
[20:51:41] <JoBbZ> :)
[20:52:03] <bahamat> That's because ipadm is an illumos command, not a linux one.
[20:52:10] <JoBbZ> but ifconfig -a works on the lx box :)
[20:52:33] <bahamat> If your kvm instance isn't using the IP specified in vmadm, then the guest is misbehaving in some way.
[20:53:08] <JoBbZ> but that's not the IP I specified in the JSON I used to create that KVM node
[20:53:13] <JoBbZ> it clearly has
[20:53:14] <JoBbZ> "ip": "192.168.1.25",
[20:54:00] <bahamat> If vmadm get says .24 then either you created it that way, or it was changed after being created.
[20:54:25] <JoBbZ> well, I set all this up last july... but as I recall, I had to delete and recreate the VM a couple of times
[20:54:37] <bahamat> It's not going to just have some different address without someone explicitly telling it to use that address.
[20:54:46] <JoBbZ> so somewhere along the way, the actual IP in the JSON and what's in /zone differed
[20:55:02] <JoBbZ> err in /etc/zones
[20:55:13] <bahamat> The actual source of truth is the xml file.
[20:55:22] <JoBbZ> heh
[20:55:36] <bahamat> Everything else obeys what the xml says.
[20:56:36] <JoBbZ> is there a correct way to modify the /etc/zones XML to update the IP .25?
[20:56:49] <bahamat> JoBbZ: vmadm update
[20:57:55] <bahamat> JoBbZ: Read the man page for how to update_nics
[20:58:03] <JoBbZ> ok thanks :)
[20:58:06] <JoBbZ> appreciate the help :)
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[21:12:18] <miller7> I made it work :)
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[21:12:38] <miller7> guys, you are amazing. Thank you very much for the suggestions :)
[21:19:49] <JoBbZ> hm, neat... can't use virtualbox under an LX host in smartos because you can't use systemd-udev
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[21:20:03] <JoBbZ> and you can't use virtualbox under a KVM host because KVM and virtualbox conflict
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[23:00:56] <nahamu> rmustacc: fwiw I get the same error on 16.3.1 multiarch when trying to build.
[23:01:39] <nahamu> very odd.
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[23:09:19] <tuxillo> nbjoerg: ping
[23:09:56] <tuxillo> nbjoerg: do you know if esg (time/taskwarrior maintainer) is on IRC?
[23:10:33] <nbjoerg> no idea
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[23:14:31] <tuxillo> ok
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