January 5, 2017 
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<tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has joined #smartos[04:31:32] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[04:32:56] <AlainODea> anyone here have experience replacing disks in a PERC h710 and replacing them in the zpool properly? MegaCli is giving me grief[04:33:15] <AlainODea> Device at [0 : 1] is not Disk[04:33:15] <AlainODea> 00:02:04 Adapter 0: Configure Adapter Failed[04:33:15] <AlainODea> 00:02:26 Device at [1 : 1] is not Disk[04:33:15] <AlainODea> 00:02:26 Adapter 0: Configure Adapter Failed[04:36:34] <dlg> you can do passthru on a h710?[04:37:40] *** leow <leow!~leow@175.137.71.175> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:43:32] *** leow <leow!~leow@175.137.71.175> has joined #smartos[04:45:11] <AlainODea> dlg: not with the firmware we have[04:45:30] <dlg> how'd you give the disk to zfs then?[04:45:31] <AlainODea> I have it configured with each physical disk as a virtual disk[04:45:36] <dlg> k[04:45:43] <dlg> you'll probably have to make a new volume for this one then[04:47:02] <AlainODea> How do I do that? I've tried `MegaCli -CfgLdAdd -r0' [1:1]' -a0` so far[04:47:21] <AlainODea> and [0:1] which is the wrong enclosure ID :D[04:49:39] *** ingenthr1 <ingenthr1!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #smartos[04:49:39] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:50:55] <AlainODea> goal is avoiding a reboot since CN has a customer running heavy analytics on it[04:55:07] <dlg> dont think you need the []s[04:55:09] <dlg> just the X:X[04:55:44] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has joined #smartos[04:56:51] <AlainODea> Ah okay. I'll try that[05:03:48] *** spijet <spijet!~serge@31.47.186.174> has joined #smartos[05:04:37] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[05:12:40] *** mhicks <mhicks!~Adium@ip72-192-145-123.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[05:14:47] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has joined #smartos[05:15:16] <AlainODea> dlg: no dice. Syntax error[05:15:38] <AlainODea> Invalid input at or near token 1[05:19:22] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[05:23:39] *** mhicks <mhicks!~Adium@ip72-192-145-123.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #smartos[05:24:40] *** tpaul <tpaul!~travispau@50.127.78.178> has joined #smartos[05:26:15] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #smartos[05:26:15] *** ingenthr1 <ingenthr1!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:26:24] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has joined #smartos[05:36:21] *** leow_ <leow_!~leow@183.78.44.75> has joined #smartos[05:36:50] *** leow <leow!~leow@175.137.71.175> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[05:39:41] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[05:41:56] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:42:11] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #smartos[05:43:41] *** ingenthr1 <ingenthr1!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #smartos[05:43:41] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:48:31] *** mhicks <mhicks!~Adium@ip72-192-145-123.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[05:52:36] *** jayschmidt <jayschmidt!~jayschmid@2605:a000:122b:183:524:66f1:e0ba:9c18> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[05:52:56] *** jayschmidt <jayschmidt!~jayschmid@2605:a000:122b:183:e4d5:9d66:61dd:e82c> has joined #smartos[05:52:56] *** ingenthr1 <ingenthr1!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:53:17] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #smartos[05:59:35] *** tpaul <tpaul!~travispau@50.127.78.178> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[05:59:59] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has joined #smartos[06:04:12] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:10:49] *** modernpa1ifist <modernpa1ifist!~admin@CPE-121-208-222-248.mjcz2.cha.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[06:20:29] *** jhendricks1 <jhendricks1!~jhendrick@8.12.47.4> has joined #smartos[06:20:45] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has joined #smartos[06:20:51] *** marsell1 <marsell1!~Adium@115-189-90-119.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[06:28:26] <doublerebel> top[06:28:44] <doublerebel> lol. happy new year all[06:31:40] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #smartos[06:36:19] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[06:39:44] *** mhicks <mhicks!~Adium@ip72-192-145-123.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #smartos[06:39:52] *** mhicks <mhicks!~Adium@ip72-192-145-123.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:43:12] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:47:36] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has joined #smartos[06:47:42] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:47:51] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #smartos[06:48:38] *** _Tenchi_ <_Tenchi_!~phil@207-255-68-080-dhcp.aoo.pa.atlanticbb.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[06:49:08] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:50:10] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@2002:6bb8:dcb:0:491f:cc94:7950:8128> has joined #smartos[06:51:39] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:52:32] <AlainODea> Joyent Support saved the day as they do. Totally worth it :)[06:52:48] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has joined #smartos[07:05:42] <doublerebel> excellent :)[07:32:13] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@2002:6bb8:dcb:0:491f:cc94:7950:8128> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:32:29] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #smartos[07:33:59] *** ingenthr1 <ingenthr1!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #smartos[07:33:59] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:35:01] *** spijet <spijet!~serge@31.47.186.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[07:36:49] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[07:37:44] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #smartos[07:40:25] *** jhendricks1 <jhendricks1!~jhendrick@8.12.47.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[07:49:40] *** 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Are there any preferred or recommended storage appliances for SmartOS?[16:59:30] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:59:46] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #smartos[17:00:07] <nahamu> rmustacc: I thought Keith had done some actual fixing things in GRUB to get that part duplicated across both serial and VGA...[17:05:52] <rmustacc> nahamu: Yes, but IIRC it's relying on the fact that we're still doing BIOS I/O.[17:07:18] <nahamu> I see[17:08:07] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@98.4.150.83.dyn.dsl.as8758.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:13:09] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #smartos[17:13:54] *** joe42 <joe42!d129a317@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.41.163.23> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[17:14:06] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #smartos[17:14:47] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:15:06] *** jhendricks1 <jhendricks1!~jhendrick@8.12.47.4> has joined #smartos[17:17:23] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:19:21] *** jhendricks1 <jhendricks1!~jhendrick@8.12.47.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:20:34] *** alcir <alcir!~alcir@fw.ftgm.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:51:22] *** GS <GS!~GS@p508EC68B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #smartos[17:51:34] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e100:8400:61f8:5395:71f0:d19d> has joined #smartos[17:52:07] *** leow <leow!~leow@183.78.46.201> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:52:35] <GS> I have a question regarding ./proto/lib/svc/method/fs-local[17:53:49] <GS> it does a /usr/sbin/zfs mount -va and fails hard if there is an error[17:54:45] <GS> this causes all dependent services to fail incl. sshd[17:55:09] <GS> which renders the system unaccessible[17:55:47] <GS> I would like to know the reason for being so strict here[17:58:07] <GS> playing around with zfs crypto I figured that script will fail if there is an encrypted dataset waiting for passphrase input upon mount[18:00:23] <GS> my proposal would be to skip checking for mount errors but there might be reasons I am not aware of[18:05:37] *** [1]kimc <[1]kimc!~kimc@12.227.16.237> has joined #smartos[18:06:22] *** EasyNT <EasyNT!~EasyNT@94.230.210.20> has joined #smartos[18:06:26] *** EasyNT <EasyNT!~EasyNT@94.230.210.20> has left #smartos[18:08:02] *** kimc <kimc!~kimc@pdpc/supporter/professional/kimc> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:08:02] *** [1]kimc is now known as kimc[18:09:15] *** trentm <trentm!~Adium@199.58.193.130> has joined #smartos[18:11:55] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@208.184.5.170> has joined #smartos[18:13:15] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@208.184.5.170> has joined #smartos[18:14:15] *** jhendricks1 <jhendricks1!~jhendrick@8.12.47.4> has joined #smartos[18:14:54] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has joined #smartos[18:16:31] *** Gathis <Gathis!~TheBlack@unaffiliated/gathis> has joined #smartos[18:17:31] <rsully> How does SDC admin network play well with other routers? Setting up a demo, not sure if I should be using a separate router/network for it or if it can go on the regular network[18:17:36] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@208.184.5.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:17:53] <rsully> not worried about security, just not sure if it expects an entire network or if things will go south[18:18:39] <pmooney> rsully: If you're expecting to boot compute nodes, it necessary that there not be dhcp competition on that segment[18:18:59] <rsully> *any* dhcp, or just not other netboot stuff?[18:19:10] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.248.159> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[18:19:44] <rsully> does the headnode assign IPs and manage the network completely? i.e. can I just throw them all on a dumb switch with no routing?[18:19:48] <pmooney> Well, if a non-SDC dhcp server hands out a lease to a CN that's coming online, it's not really going to netboot[18:20:14] *** swills_ <swills_!~swills@freebsd/developer/swills> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:20:18] <pmooney> An isolated admin network should be fine[18:20:20] <rsully> PXE can work with 2 dhcp servers, I do that at home on my vanilla smartos box[18:20:26] <rsully> isolated network as in just a switch?[18:20:37] <pmooney> sure[18:20:56] <rsully> does each CN need its own access to the external network, or can everything route through the HN?[18:22:23] *** swills <swills!~swills@freebsd/developer/swills> has joined #smartos[18:23:46] *** cmacrae <cmacrae!~cmacrae@cpc2-hitc7-2-0-cust720.9-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #smartos[18:26:51] <melloc> rsully: Each CN will need its own access to the external network.[18:27:12] *** jcea <jcea!~Thunderbi@ks27448.kimsufi.com> has joined #smartos[18:31:03] *** mattr1 <mattr1!~Adium@62-64-196-90.dynamic.dial.as9105.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[18:31:56] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~wizard113@184.250.149.152> has joined #smartos[18:33:44] *** bens1 <bens1!~bens1@161.122.2.81.in-addr.arpa> has quit IRC (Quit: bens1)[18:36:15] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~wizard113@184.250.149.152> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:44:51] <rsully> Can it use admin for internet access if I don't configure an external network?[18:51:08] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~wizard113@184.250.149.152> has joined #smartos[18:53:51] <mariusp_> If we are using PXE only, no usb-key, where does one find the network configuration that is pushed to the CN's? I need to give my CN's access to a specific VLAN so that zones/vm's could be created[18:55:47] <rmustacc> rsully: Many folks who want external access for the admin just add a gateway there.[18:56:31] <rmustacc> mariusp_: This is a triton standup?[18:56:43] <rsully> rmustacc well not "external" as in public, just internet[18:56:48] <mariusp_> yes, on intel NUC which has just one phys port[18:57:27] <rmustacc> rsully: Sure, I just mean folks add a gateway on the admin network that NATs.[18:57:45] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@208.184.5.170> has joined #smartos[18:57:58] <rmustacc> mariusp_: There isn't anything special. A port can have multiple VLANs assocaited with it, you just need to make sure the right nic tags are there.[18:58:26] <rmustacc> And that your switch is configured correctly for the VLANs.[18:59:59] *** jhendricks1 <jhendricks1!~jhendrick@8.12.47.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[19:00:25] <mariusp_> rmustacc: tags are there and the switch seems to be working correctly (headnode is fine) but tryint to create a vm errors out with an error about missing network[19:01:00] <mariusp_> Using the Portal the "Network Interfaces" portion is stuck in "Retreveing Networks"[19:01:15] <rmustacc> mariusp_: Are the nictags present?[19:01:18] <mariusp_> yes[19:01:44] <rmustacc> So, what is the specific error from the provisioning workflow?[19:01:52] <mariusp_> I mean I can see them with cnapi and in the portal under NICTAGS PROVIDED[19:03:34] <rmustacc> mariusp_: Do you see them on the CN if you run 'nictagadm list'?[19:03:37] <mariusp_> rmustacc: I never get to start provisioning a machine since I cannot assign the necessary networks. Using docker I get " (Error) network external not found"[19:03:53] *** AndrewH <AndrewH!~Adium@cpc68085-lea22-2-0-cust430.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[19:03:59] <rmustacc> Do non-docker provisions work?[19:04:00] <mariusp_> yes I do[19:04:14] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~wizard113@184.250.149.152> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:07:03] <mariusp_> I have not tried other provisions but I expect using the Portal UI will not allow me (due to missing networks). I can install sdcs* tools and try to create a vm that way[19:07:25] <melloc> mariusp_: That's sdc-docker trying to find the 'external' network.[19:07:35] <melloc> It sounds like you don't have a network by that name, though.[19:07:41] <mariusp_> maybe this screenshot helps http://imgur.com/a/nNhQw[19:07:55] <melloc> I'm assuming you haven't set up fabrics, right?[19:08:11] <mariusp_> no I have not[19:08:33] <mariusp_> I was actually wondering if it is a required step or not, however seeing how this is all on some intel NUCS I figured it would complicate things more[19:08:56] <mariusp_> The docs and blog post on joyent.com do not seem to require fabrics .[19:09:14] <melloc> It's not required, but it means that you probably haven't specified the EXTERNAL_NET property for sdc-docker, and so it's defaulting to "external".[19:10:43] <melloc> You can do:[19:10:56] <melloc> sapiadm update $(sdc-sapi /services?name=docker | json -Ha uuid) metadata."EXTERNAL_NET"=foo[19:11:07] <melloc> Where "foo" is the name of the network you want it to use.[19:11:30] *** wizard113 <wizard113!~Adium@50-1-125-117.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com> has joined #smartos[19:11:55] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:12:08] <melloc> Or, alternatively, if you haven't already created a network called "external", you can do that.[19:12:24] <melloc> But it sounds like you already have a network that you want things to go on.[19:13:28] <mariusp_> melloc: thanks, tried the sapiadm command but no go. I do have the networks and they seem to be "there".[19:14:48] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@50-93-248-179.fttp.usinternet.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[19:15:03] <melloc> mariusp_: Can you gist the result of running this from the GZ of the HN: sdc-napi '/networks?fabric=false&name=external'[19:15:51] <mariusp_> melloc: yes, here it is: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c8f7c54ca18d02333b09db2e7d9916c8[19:16:14] <melloc> So, it looks like you've given the network two owners.[19:16:21] <melloc> Is the person provisioning one of those owners?[19:17:17] <mariusp_> yes, I thought maybe I need to give my user perms?[19:17:34] <mariusp_> I did that just a few seconds ago, did not get a chance to try it though[19:17:57] <melloc> Try doing: sdc-napi '/networks?fabric=false&name=external&provisionable_by=<provisioning account uuid>'[19:18:53] <mariusp_> seems ok[19:19:00] <mariusp_> and also provisining a vm now works[19:20:10] <mariusp_> Im not sure what I missed in the docs however? Every user must be assigned specific permissions to the networks?[19:20:32] <mariusp_> I am using (like most others probably) this guide: https://www.joyent.com/blog/spin-up-a-docker-dev-test-environment-in-60-minutes-or-less[19:21:44] <jayschmidt> mariusp_ - I would recommend following the installation guide at docs.joyent.com[19:22:04] <jayschmidt> That's what we use for on-prem installs; you may need to cut down for a nuc install, but it will give you the basic framework.[19:22:20] <jayschmidt> https://docs.joyent.com/private-cloud/install[19:22:35] *** [1]kimc <[1]kimc!~kimc@12.227.16.237> has joined #smartos[19:23:18] <mariusp_> jayschmidt: thats exactly where I've been searching but Im fairly sure I misunderstood something. However is it correct that an "operator" must assigned specific privileges to each network created?[19:23:30] <jayschmidt> no[19:23:53] <jayschmidt> If you create a network w/ an owner or owners, that means only those users can use it.[19:24:00] <jayschmidt> So, for example, a network without an owner is public.[19:24:52] <mariusp_> ok. this makes sense for the behaviour I was seeing before I added mysqld as an operator[19:24:59] <mariusp_> s/mysqld/myself/[19:25:02] *** kimc <kimc!~kimc@12.227.16.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:25:02] *** [1]kimc is now known as kimc[19:26:09] <mariusp_> thank you all very much! got some reading to do[19:26:12] <jayschmidt> https://gist.github.com/4d8459c4c27b8c978d49f6cfea477e5d[19:26:31] <jayschmidt> ^ that is my lab, with network names and owner uuid's[19:26:34] <jayschmidt> that should help you a bit.[19:27:01] <jayschmidt> but, in a nutshell, sdc-underlay (not in my lab - I don't run fabrics) and admin are the only two that should be admin owned in a vanilla triton standup.[19:27:49] <mariusp_> makes sense now[19:28:19] <mariusp_> I think it would have worked out just fine had I continued to work as the admin user but I thought to create my own user ..[19:28:54] <jayschmidt> use admin until you get it up and happy and able to provvision, then is the time to create your own user.[19:28:59] <jayschmidt> at least until you get the process down.[19:29:46] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@173-11-44-141-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #smartos[19:31:14] <mariusp_> will do, many thanks once again[19:35:07] *** mariusp_ <mariusp_!~mpana@193.231.126.3> has quit IRC ()[19:36:48] *** hunkemooler <hunkemooler!~hunk@d51530ddb.static.telenet.be> has joined #smartos[19:37:43] *** hunkemooler <hunkemooler!~hunk@d51530ddb.static.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:48:04] <rsully> How do I change my admin user's password? I'm logged in as root. I think the shift key messed up my input for capital letters[19:48:51] *** LiberalSquash <LiberalSquash!~LiberalSq@kol-kvintus.cust.fsknet.dk> has joined #smartos[19:48:55] *** LiberalSquash <LiberalSquash!~LiberalSq@kol-kvintus.cust.fsknet.dk> has left #smartos[19:50:54] <jayschmidt> so[19:51:00] <bahamat> rsully: sdc-useradm[19:52:17] <rsully> bahamat how can I list all users[19:52:41] <bahamat> rsully: sdc-ldap search[19:57:19] <jayschmidt> sdc-useradm replace-attr your-account-name userpassword YourPassword[20:02:17] <rsully> oh does the admin user just not have ssh?[20:02:27] <rsully> is that strictly for triton stuff?[20:02:40] <rsully> because it says passwordInHistory[20:02:53] <bahamat> rsully: Are you talking about the admin user in a zone? Or in UFDS?[20:03:25] <rsully> not in a zone, I'm just talking about whatever admin user the installer setup[20:03:27] <bahamat> By default, there are no passwords on users in OS zones. They only allow ssh keys.[20:04:02] <rsully> the wording of the installer docs made it sound like I should be using admin instead of root, I assumed for things like ssh and management[20:04:22] <jayschmidt> If you're using the operator portal - adminui - you use admin[20:04:42] <jayschmidt> if you're logging into the HN via ssh, you're going to want to be root.[20:04:44] <bahamat> rsully: For ssh to the global zone, use root.[20:04:52] <rsully> got it[20:06:32] *** dap_ <dap_!~dap@208.184.5.170> has joined #smartos[20:06:48] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:08:20] <rsully> got into the adminui too, this is slick[20:08:46] <rsully> I'm a little concerned that my utilization numbers are >100% though[20:09:22] <bahamat> rsully: The headnode provisions about 48GB worth of RAM. If you have less than that on the HN, it'll be oversubscribed.[20:09:27] <rsully> this is a box with 40GB ram and ~500GB disk space, just meant as a test[20:09:34] <rsully> my disk utilization is 213%[20:09:47] <rsully> its 6x ~140GB drives[20:09:51] <rsully> it setup as a rz2[20:09:58] <bahamat> That's not necessarily bad. I run HNs with only 16G of RAM, but my load is very low.[20:12:25] <rsully> should I be worried about disk though?[20:19:00] <bahamat> rsully: Check `zpool list` for your "real" free space.[20:19:19] <bahamat> rsully: AdminUI shows you what's *reserved*.[20:19:28] <bahamat> zfs will show you your actual used/free space.[20:19:32] <rsully> well right, its a 816GB pool with 765GB free[20:19:52] <rsully> and the dataset (rz2) has like 480GB free[20:20:07] <bahamat> rsully: Then you're fine, at least for now.[20:20:37] <bahamat> If all (or many?) zones approach their quota you might find yourself running out of disk space for real.[20:20:39] <rsully> right, I wasn't sure if I should reprovision a zone or two (like imgapi) so that I can't break things - or if that is possible[20:20:41] <rsully> right[20:21:17] <bahamat> Just remember that AdminUI shows you what's available for *provisioning*.[20:22:02] <bahamat> Just because a zone has 8GB of RAM, 100G of disk, or 200% CPU *reserved* doesn't mean it's actually *using* that at the moment.[20:22:44] <bahamat> It's perfectly normal to configure Triton to overprovision to take up some of the slack. But for some workloads that's not safe.[20:22:44] <rsully> Right I understand that, I just want to make sure that things can't go south too easily[20:22:59] <bahamat> So its up to your requirements.[20:23:21] <rsully> Is it possible/supported to make some of these default zones smaller? Or is the "fix" to get bigger disks[20:23:25] <bahamat> You'll want to keep an eye on both reserved and used counts.[20:24:31] <bahamat> rsully: You *can* reduce them, but there's no real need to.[20:25:10] <bahamat> E.g., The headnode on my test rig is 300% utilized on RAM and 1060% utilized on disk.[20:25:35] <jayschmidt> Mine is similar to bahamat's - it's fine for testing, lab work, personal stuff.[20:25:42] <rsully> alright then[20:25:44] *** spijet <spijet!~serge@31.47.186.174> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[20:25:55] <jayschmidt> Anything important, you're going to want to be at or above the mins.[20:25:56] <bahamat> But my actual RAM usage is about 50% for applications (most of the rest is ARC), and actual disk is about 70%.[20:26:59] <bahamat> rsully: It's not recommended to run overprovisioned in production, but it *can* work.[20:28:06] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #smartos[20:29:03] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:30:10] *** ingenthr <ingenthr!~ingenthr@cpe-107-184-13-203.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #smartos[20:36:59] <rsully> I just booted a computenode to add to my setup, but adminui is only showing 1 server still but now it says "requires setup" is this normal?[20:37:31] <rsully> The docs show a second server appearing, not happening in my case[20:37:32] *** GS <GS!~GS@p508EC68B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:38:47] <bahamat> rsully: So you have your headnode plus one more?[20:38:53] <rsully> physically yes[20:39:04] <rsully> but adminui shows "headnode" only and it says "requires setup"[20:39:06] <bahamat> And what does adminui show?[20:39:14] <bahamat> It says the headnode requires setup?[20:39:16] <rsully> yes[20:39:41] <bahamat> Ok, the problem is that both physical computers have the same UUID burned into the BIOS.[20:39:53] <bahamat> Is the uuid all 0s?[20:40:07] <rsully> the uuid under the name "headnode"?[20:40:14] <bahamat> Yes.[20:40:18] <rsully> no its some long uuid[20:41:34] *** bennabiy <bennabiy!~bennabiy@unaffiliated/bennabiy> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:41:45] <bahamat> Run `smbios | grep UUID` on both servers and compare them.[20:42:15] <rsully> er how can I login to the CN? is there a default password for console login since it isnt setup[20:43:29] <jayschmidt> the unsetup password[20:43:35] <jayschmidt> sdc-usbkey mount[20:43:39] <jayschmidt> cd /mnt/usbkey/private[20:43:40] <jayschmidt> ls[20:43:51] <rsully> pxe booted[20:43:55] <rsully> no usb[20:43:55] <jayschmidt> there, named with the PI string, will be the passord.[20:43:59] <jayschmidt> nope, do that on the HN.[20:44:02] <rsully> oh ok[20:44:08] <jayschmidt> then unmount the key[20:44:16] <jayschmidt> with sdc-usbkey unmount[20:44:17] <bahamat> rsully: On the headnode.[20:44:31] <bahamat> rsully: Also, you really should use the usb, even on compute nodes.[20:45:18] *** bennabiy <bennabiy!~bennabiy@unaffiliated/bennabiy> has joined #smartos[20:45:19] <bahamat> rsully: You can also use this: https://gist.github.com/bahamat/b2f5194d151a352eaed7[20:45:44] <rsully> bahamat so yeah the uuid is the same[20:45:58] <bahamat> rsully: That's going to be a problem.[20:46:21] <bahamat> What hardware is this?[20:46:23] <rsully> let me boot into bios and see if anything is configurable[20:46:32] <rsully> poweredge c6100[20:46:56] <bahamat> I would open a ticket with Dell then. It should never be duplicated.[20:47:07] <rsully> these are 2 different nodes inside 1 body[20:47:14] <rsully> so maybe the whole unit of 4 nodes is the same[20:47:24] <bahamat> Is this like a blade chassis?[20:47:38] <rsully> I guess, its 4 independent servers inside of 1 unit[20:47:53] <rsully> shared psu[20:48:08] <jayschmidt> Check the smbios output - they should all still have different uuid's unless something is totally crazy with this box.[20:48:25] <rsully> jayschmidt I checked smbios command that bahamat gave me, they output same uuid[20:48:39] <jayschmidt> ok, that is weird[20:48:52] <bahamat> rsully: I'd contact Dell to see if that's intentional or not.[20:48:58] <jayschmidt> +1 on that.[20:49:10] <bahamat> Unless you can change it, it would currently be incompatible with Triton.[20:49:22] <rsully> alright let me boot into bios and take a look[20:51:53] *** Red_Devil <Red_Devil!~red@biervat.313373.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[20:52:09] <jzu_> rsully: https://vnetwise.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/howto-dell-c6100-fru-uuid-updatefinally/[20:52:29] <jzu_> rsully: there you go, first hit from Google for "dell c6100 uuid"[20:52:38] <rsully> jzu_ awesome thanks! let me take a look[20:53:10] <jzu_> Apparently you can just run the Windows version of IPMIUTIL.exe with the following options:[20:53:13] <jzu_> ipmiutil.exe fru -s %newassettag%[20:53:16] <jzu_> :-)[20:53:25] <jzu_> (copypaste from the blog entry)[20:53:47] <rsully> "this makes ESXi assign the same UUID"[20:53:55] <rsully> is SDC assigning the uuid?[20:54:16] <rsully> context: "See, on a C6100 you have a typical Dell Service Tag – eg: ABC123A for the chassis. But each ‘sled’ has a .# after it. So you’ll have ABC123A.1, ABC123A.2, ABC123A.3, and ABC123A.4"[20:54:33] <jzu_> I think it uses the motherboard UUID, but ESXi generates it's own based on the MB's UUID or such[20:54:37] <bahamat> The SmartOS platform image includes ipmitool, so you should be able to use that.[20:55:36] <rsully> I got ipmitool on my mac too so that should work[20:56:25] *** GS <GS!~GS@p508EC68B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #smartos[20:56:58] <rsully> need to figure out default user/pass for ipmi though[20:57:16] <rsully> and actually get ipmi on the network[20:57:59] <GS> Does it make sense to repeat my question regarding ./proto/lib/svc/method/fs-local ?[20:58:09] <rsully> or can ipmi be done locally bahamat?[20:59:17] <bahamat> rsully: I'm not sure.[21:00:17] <bahamat> GS: I think it's something to bring up on smartos-discuss@[21:00:37] <jzu_> by the way, if anyone has insight to this: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247449/2017/01/sort/time_rev/page/1/entry/5:11/20170104033615:D93C0C8E-D258-11E6-824B-DEFCA4B19155/[21:01:07] <GS> I like the more responsive way of IRC better :)[21:01:55] <jesse_> protip: irssi 1.0.0 is out ;)[21:02:23] <jesse_> (https://irssi.org/2017/01/05/irssi-1.0.0-released/)[21:06:17] <rmustacc> jzu_: I owe you a reply on that.[21:06:23] <rmustacc> I'll try to get something by EOD[21:06:54] <jzu_> rmustacc: Thanks a lot already! :)[21:07:07] <jzu_> rmustacc: I don't want to mess my PoC by doing the wrong configuration move :-)[21:07:26] <jzu_> rmustacc: it's a PoC with HN + single CN[21:12:11] <jzu_> rsully: let us know how the change of UUID works out with ipmitool (ie. are you able to do it locally)[21:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:20:07] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #smartos[21:21:29] <rsully> jzu_ not having any luck with network ipmi, going to try local now[21:22:46] <rsully> if this doesn't work I'll look at flashing the bmc or bios on this box, its a little out of date i think[21:35:39] <rsully> jzu_ ipmitool seems to work fine without any magic locally[21:36:03] <rsully> haven't changed id yet though[21:37:34] <rsully> jzu_ not sure what the ipmi equiv is to "fru s"[21:37:37] <rsully> ipmitool*[22:02:58] *** GS <GS!~GS@p508EC68B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:03:50] <bennabiy> All the images available in imgadm avail - Who generates them? And is it general good practice to regen all hostkeys etc within them?[22:04:07] <bahamat> Joyent generates them.[22:04:14] <bahamat> They don't come with host keys[22:04:25] <bennabiy> bahamat: thank you.[22:04:46] <bahamat> If you're referring to ssh, if you delete the keys you have, it will automatically generate new ones when the service starts up.[22:28:12] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e100:8400:61f8:5395:71f0:d19d> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:28:59] <rsully> bahamat once I fix the uuid do I need to do anything to fix the headnode's state?[22:29:33] <bahamat> I think if you restart cn-agent on the headnode it will update the setup state.[22:29:46] <rsully> would rebooting headnode work too?[22:32:54] <bahamat> rsully: It should[22:46:01] *** marsell1 <marsell1!~Adium@122-56-232-191.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #smartos[22:47:59] *** marsell <marsell!~Adium@115-189-90-202.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[22:50:54] <rsully> jzu_ had to flash bios+bmc firmware, then it worked with ipmiutil over network. Took a reboot before guid would update[22:51:19] <rsully> jzu_ not 100% finished (need to reset it again to a non-test value, and then actually boot the CN. probably not going to happen until tomorrow now)[22:51:57] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has joined #smartos[22:55:11] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:56:12] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:59:09] <rsully> bahamat the second server has a hostname of headnode too now[22:59:22] <rsully> but it shows up as a separate item at least[23:02:18] <SillySophist> really stupid question, but we’ve seen this a bit with our dockers. In an lx zone `/dev/shm/` is 777 but in a docker it’s 755[23:02:25] <SillySophist> which pisses off things like postgres[23:02:57] <SillySophist> The same docker image running on a laptop gets the expected `777` perms[23:03:20] <bahamat> rsully: You can do `sdc-cnapi /servers/<new_uuid> -X DELETE` and then reboot it[23:03:54] <bahamat> SillySophist: "in a docker"?[23:04:20] <bahamat> SillySophist: /dev/shm is a tmpfs filesystem, it should be 1777, and always has been on every Linux system I've used.[23:04:43] <SillySophist> bahamat: exactly![23:04:50] <SillySophist> but if you exec into one of our dockers[23:04:50] <bahamat> SillySophist: Are you saying in a docker zone on smartos it's 755?[23:04:55] <SillySophist> Correct![23:04:59] <bahamat> Ah, ok.[23:05:05] <bahamat> Yeah, that's got to be a bug on our side.[23:05:18] <SillySophist> BUT that same image on our laptops or whatever gets 777[23:05:27] <SillySophist> Awesome, anything I can do to help?[23:05:33] <SillySophist> Github Issue?[23:05:46] <bahamat> SillySophist: Yes please[23:06:09] <SillySophist> illumos-joyent?[23:06:27] <bahamat> SillySophist: Probably smartos-live[23:06:31] <SillySophist> or sdc-docker?[23:06:32] <SillySophist> kk[23:06:33] <bahamat> That's where all the docker initialization stuff is.[23:06:48] <bahamat> I'm thinking it's part of docker-init.[23:07:26] <SillySophist> kk[23:12:45] <SillySophist> verified on the Public Joyent Cloud as well[23:13:00] <bahamat> Yeah, I wouldn't expect any different.[23:14:11] <SillySophist> @bahamat https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/issues/689[23:14:13] <SillySophist> well yeah[23:14:26] <SillySophist> but nice to prove I am not crazy/stupid/making-things-up/etc[23:14:43] <SillySophist> Right now we are working around with a clever system of chown’s[23:23:58] <pmooney> SillySophist: we'll look into it[23:23:59] <pmooney> thanks[23:24:07] <SillySophist> no worries[23:24:18] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@173-11-44-141-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[23:24:21] <SillySophist> happy to help[23:25:05] <bennabiy> if I generate an LX zone, all things that happen within that will persist after reboot, corret?[23:25:08] <bennabiy> correct?*[23:33:02] <LeftWing> bennabiy: Changes you make to files inside the zone, and such?[23:33:16] <bennabiy> yes, like hostname etc[23:33:33] <LeftWing> It depends on how the Linux distribution inside your LX zone works[23:33:48] <bennabiy> LeftWing: so it is up to the distro.[23:33:50] <LeftWing> If it's Ubuntu, say, you'll need to use whatever the Ubuntu mechanism is for setting a hostname persistently[23:34:10] <LeftWing> The only thing we really push in from outside are the base file system layouts, the contents of /dev, and the networking configuration.[23:34:42] <LeftWing> The rest of it, such as hostnames and whatever services are running, etc, are up to the distribution inside the zone.[23:36:36] *** polishdub <polishdub!~polishdub@208.93.128.118> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:37:49] *** gh34 <gh34!~textual@66.195.151.70> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[23:41:49] <bennabiy> Thank you