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[04:20:35] <AlainODea> I am experiencing some oddities with the latest Riak image. Riak doesn't start when I run 'svcadm enable riak' and the log doesn't appear to be used. Running 'riak start' does start Riak successfully, but logs a warning that I should use 'svcadm enable riak'.
[04:34:36] <konobi> AlainODea: what amount of ram?
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[04:50:00] <Kireji> system/sac is coming up offline* on reboot - what is that? It's leaving all out user serrvices in maint
[04:50:13] <Kireji> dropped all out produciton servies
[04:50:22] <Kireji> dropped all *our produciton servies
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[05:13:47] <konobi> AlainODea: checked syslog?
[05:13:53] <konobi> um... Kireji even
[05:23:13] <rmustacc> offline* means it is transitioning.
[05:25:30] <AlainODea> konobi: Sorry, went next door to ring in New Years. 256MB of RAM.
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[05:30:41] <konobi> AlainODea: riak zones really need a minimum of 1GB
[05:33:39] <AlainODea> konobi: thank you. I just vmadm update UUID with {"max_physical_memory": 1024} as an argument. After a (effectively instantaneous) reboot the problem is gone and Riak starts successfully. SmartMachines are very nice.
[05:36:17] <konobi> np
[05:36:55] <AlainODea> konobi: time for substantially more RAM I think. The 6GB in my home lab machine is hopeless. I have 192GB in the data center research box so I'll probably have to continue my work there in the meantime :)
[05:38:29] <konobi> AlainODea: yeah, i'd love to test out a zbox id82 at some point
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[06:06:00] <AlainODea> Is it normal for zones to be unable to ping each other?
[06:07:35] <AlainODea> PEBKAC again. Wrong subnet. Two different SmartOS hosts... one weak tired brain operating them.
[06:07:45] <AlainODea> In short, the ping works.
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[06:43:16] <AlainODea> I love that not only can you script the bringup of a Riak cluster on SmartOS, it's easy to do. Now I need to look into deploying more SmartOS boxes to get hardware fault-tolerance :) It's all recipe now.
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[06:52:40] <konobi> AlainODea: playing with user-script metadata?
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[11:09:38] <molybdenum> so, while my NICs are available but not plumbed, as explained earlier (Sunday), the smartos bootup scripts appear to expect to have a working network interface in some circumstances, is that right?
[11:12:23] <linuxprofessor> yeah, the admin nic
[11:14:39] <molybdenum> thanks, so my system has two NICs (igb0/1) and is booting via PXE/iPXE. I suppose that implies I need to define the admin NIC pre-boot in the kernel arguments?
[11:15:11] <molybdenum> (as neither igb0 or igb1 are being selected by default as the admin NIC)
[11:15:44] <linuxprofessor> as im using a usbkey i really dont know how to define it with using pxe
[11:16:09] <MerlinDMC> you need to have a configuration on the zones pool - boot with smartos=true and configure the system once
[11:16:12] <linuxprofessor> i expect there's no /usbkey/config when pxebooting?
[11:16:15] <molybdenum> sure, but the point is, you have to actually define it explicitly, rather than rely on default behaviours, rioghtight?
[11:16:26] <molybdenum> er, just "right". :)
[11:16:31] <MerlinDMC> the automatic install/config via scripts is not in the normal smartos platform afaik
[11:16:45] <linuxprofessor> as expected
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[11:17:45] <molybdenum> thanks, understood now. my next challenge is find disks on this server. I think i need drivers that aren't built-in.
[11:17:52] <molybdenum> is *to* find disks, that is
[11:18:22] <MerlinDMC> what controller is that? ... is it on the illumos hcl? http://illumos.org/hcl/
[11:18:49] <molybdenum> nope, it's a 3ware 9650
[11:19:18] <molybdenum> i got the impressions from some googling that you can somehow get the opensolaris drivers to work (from 3ware/LSI)
[11:19:27] <linuxprofessor> when booting pxe, do you usually have a usbkey to save node specific data?
[11:19:48] <MerlinDMC> linuxprofessor, the folder /usbkey is _not_ on the usbkey
[11:20:19] <MerlinDMC> you can pull out the usbkey after bootup and the system is fine
[11:20:27] <molybdenum> so where would you put the persistent data (in best practice), on a usb key or the hard drive pools?
[11:20:39] <linuxprofessor> ah, noticed now it's not on the key =)
[11:20:51] <linuxprofessor> the pool
[11:20:53] <linuxprofessor> apparently =)
[11:21:08] <MerlinDMC> molybdenum, it will be on harddrive only one config file and some folders for logs + dump & swap
[11:21:25] <molybdenum> ta
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[11:45:53] <MerlinDMC> paolo here somehow?
[11:49:28] <linuxprofessor> saw hos problem on the mailing list, has someone figured out what causes it?
[11:49:36] <linuxprofessor> s/hos/his
[11:50:20] <MerlinDMC> linuxprofessor, i think there are some typos in the vmadm parts for provision transition states
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[11:50:41] <MerlinDMC> you can get around that in some ways ... but that is the dirty way ;)
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[11:51:58] <MerlinDMC> I did dig around there yesterday but the code for those provisioning parts is hard to debug - at least for me ^^
[11:52:19] <linuxprofessor> I used to have the problem, no idea what I did to make it go away
[11:52:47] <MerlinDMC> it somehow depends on network connectivity or configuration
[11:53:09] <MerlinDMC> for example i can provision on external nic-tag but not on admin
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[11:54:34] <linuxprofessor> i have a faint memory of the problem surfacing when i didnt add a gateway in the json file
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[11:58:47] <MerlinDMC> my custom build of the platform works without problems ;)
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[13:31:55] <lundh> is there any limitation that only makes it possible to connect to a zone throught the default network interface?
[13:35:23] <linuxprofessor> the spoof protection maybe?
[13:38:30] <lundh> what do you mean?
[13:39:32] <linuxprofessor> have you set the properties for that nic to allow traffic from/to that certain IP?
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[13:41:06] <lundh> no...
[13:41:15] <lundh> how do I do that+
[13:42:38] <lundh> and I dont belive I had to do that before, It does recieve an IP from my ISPs DHCP-server
[13:43:02] <linuxprofessor> nah, then you shouldn't have to
[13:43:03] <lundh> but SSH doesnt work and no other port seems to be open either
[13:43:25] <lundh> but I get connect from the machine
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[13:44:13] <linuxprofessor> I was lazy and just allowed IP spoofing
[13:44:23] <linuxprofessor> it works, but it might not be the right way to do it. hehe
[13:44:33] <lundh> I can try that... ;)
[13:44:52] <linuxprofessor> had to do it to get IPv6 connectivity
[13:44:59] <linuxprofessor> if i remember correctly
[13:45:51] <lundh> I'll try that
[13:49:23] <lundh> nope, didnt help
[13:50:49] <lundh> this is what my network config looks like: https://gist.github.com/c6563ff20de77bd19ce2
[13:50:50] <linuxprofessor> and you rebooted after update? =)
[13:50:54] <lundh> yes
[13:51:08] <linuxprofessor> hmm
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[13:51:17] <lundh> actually I turned it off, updated and then restarted
[13:51:28] <linuxprofessor> i'll post my conf for my router/firewall
[13:51:42] <lundh> thank you :)
[13:51:58] <linuxprofessor> http://pastebin.com/WAi4KqTA
[13:52:06] <linuxprofessor> altough im not using vlans
[13:52:12] <lundh> wonder if it has anything to do with my switch config...
[13:52:41] <linuxprofessor> evil switch?
[13:56:14] <lundh> not really, HP ProCurve 1810G
[13:56:23] <lundh> but that was not it
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[13:56:51] <lundh> thw switch is set up as it should be.
[13:58:23] <linuxprofessor> what if you use two different nics and native vlans on both?
[13:58:35] <linuxprofessor> just for testing purposes
[13:58:40] <lundh> only have one nic
[13:59:03] <lundh> but the vlan setup is not the issue
[13:59:29] <lundh> bee running it like this for a couple of years
[14:02:03] <linuxprofessor> did it just stop working all of a sudden?
[14:02:22] <lundh> no, I dont think it ever worked with this zone
[14:03:37] <linuxprofessor> my conf is for a kvm vm btw, not a zone
[14:03:43] <linuxprofessor> not that it should make a difference
[14:03:59] <lundh> shouldn't matter
[14:06:19] <lundh> and I'm out of IPs (I get 5 from my ISP) so creating a test machine fails
[14:06:43] <lundh> guess I have to wait until the lease is released
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[14:20:43] <lundh> hmm, switched primary to the other vnic, no difference
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[15:05:04] <lundh> it must be some setting in the zone that is blocking the traffic. I created another zone with an identical setup only this the second interface was added at create time instead of afterwards
[15:05:24] <lundh> and that works
[15:16:50] <lundh> no firewall running either
[15:29:18] <lundh> /etc/defaultrouter seems to have been one of the issues
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[18:20:19] <nahamu> okay, I've cleaned up the build process for the spice-enabled QEMU and have it building from the latests stable bits rather than git.
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[18:20:59] <nahamu> and it's been patched to match the platform QEMU when it comes to the provisioning reporting
[18:21:25] <nahamu> and everything has been pushed to repos on github where it's easier to see.
[18:22:03] <nahamu> Happy New Year, deirdres!
[18:24:17] <deirdres> thanks, same to you!
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[18:46:20] <nahamu> jperkin: are you around?
[18:46:46] <nahamu> jpeg-8d doesn't seem to include headers, but jpeg-8c looks like it did... any idea why?
[18:47:20] <nahamu> errr, provides might not be the same as contents... nevermind.
[18:47:45] <nahamu> yeah, that's not my issue... blah.
[19:00:25] <rmustacc> Working out your problem nahamu?
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[19:02:27] <nahamu> I'm trying to get spice compiling in the base64-1.8.4 image and it's failing on libjpeg.
[19:02:41] <nahamu> it smacks of a problem that I remember having once before, but whose solution I can't remember.
[19:02:57] <nahamu> (everything is totally fine in the old smartos64-1.6.3)
[19:03:48] <nahamu> I'm suspicios that configure seems to be finding /usr/bin/ld rather than /opt/local/bin/ld
[19:06:55] <nahamu> I don't think that's it.
[19:07:13] <richlowe> is this more ld badness?
[19:08:17] <nahamu> I have no idea.
[19:09:10] <rmustacc> nahamu: You always want it to be /usr/bin/ld
[19:09:25] <nahamu> yeah, I saw that other programs were building using that just fine.
[19:09:41] <rmustacc> gld is almost, almost, never what you want.
[19:10:04] <rmustacc> And if it is, it's probably a bug we should know about.
[19:10:14] <nahamu> I'm getting "checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress in -ljpeg... no" when the jpeg package is installed.
[19:10:16] <richlowe> yeah, what robert said
[19:10:30] <richlowe> though my sanity would appreciate not knowing about it right now.
[19:10:43] <rmustacc> That doesn't sound like a linker bug, more likely a -L/-R bug.
[19:10:48] <rmustacc> So what dataset are you building that on?
[19:10:51] <nahamu> which I think used to be from not setting the right CFLAGS=-m64 or LDFLAGS=-m64 or something.
[19:11:15] <nahamu> base64 1.8.4
[19:11:16] <rmustacc> Well, actually the best thing to do there is to look at configure.log
[19:11:31] <rmustacc> Okay, so that compiler, iirc defaults to -m64.
[19:11:42] <rmustacc> I'm not sure if it defaults to -I/-L /opt/local
[19:12:05] <rmustacc> If you can put up the exact line it executed and what errored, I can tell you most likely what the right fix is there.
[19:12:14] <nahamu> http://fpaste.org/ib5k/
[19:12:37] <rmustacc> Okay.
[19:12:44] <rmustacc> And you have that library in /opt/local/lib?
[19:12:48] <nahamu> yeah
[19:13:10] <nahamu> installed it with pkgin
[19:13:15] <rmustacc> So you need to add CPPFLAGS="-I/opt/local/include"
[19:13:24] <rmustacc> LDFLAGS="-L/opt/local/lib"
[19:13:31] <rmustacc> I don't think you need the -R entry.
[19:13:45] <rmustacc> But I thought the compilers did that these days.
[19:13:56] <rmustacc> So I guess that's something to ask jperkin or mamash about.
[19:13:59] <nahamu> that worked.
[19:14:03] <nahamu> (at least for configure)
[19:14:17] <rmustacc> Does it make sense as to why you needed that?
[19:15:38] <nahamu> so those flags are for the pre-processor and the linker. that I understand.
[19:15:51] <nahamu> I'm guessing that for all the other libraries pkg-config is providing that information.
[19:16:05] <rmustacc> Maybe?
[19:16:37] <nahamu> those are reasonable flags to add to the environment for this entire build.
[19:16:38] <rmustacc> pkg-config is one of those things I just try to avoid if I cna.
[19:16:50] <rmustacc> Right, though I swore that the compiler was built to do that.
[19:16:54] <rmustacc> I guess it depends on the dataset.
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[19:19:02] <richlowe> you used to do it via a stock crle config, too, ages ago
[19:19:44] <rmustacc> We did the -R that way I recall.
[19:19:58] <rmustacc> But it's never been quite right.
[19:20:27] <rmustacc> richlowe: Is the current linker headache the stuff Alaisdairrr was talking about?
[19:20:44] <richlowe> I'm looking at that, yeah
[19:20:59] <rmustacc> Let me know if you want another pair of eyes to join in the insanity.
[19:21:28] <richlowe> the problem is that I in effect know what's wrong, just not quite how.
[19:21:40] <nahamu> rmustacc: if he doesn't, you know you want to hack on QEMU... :-P
[19:22:24] <rmustacc> nahamu: Don't worry, I have a linker to port to keep me distracted from qemu.
[19:25:35] <nahamu> heh
[19:25:38] <nahamu> the ARM port?
[19:25:56] <nahamu> gah! bitten by /bin/sh being ksh not bash... again!
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[19:44:10] <nahamu> or not.
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[19:57:19] <nahamu> rmustacc / richlowe would putting "-I/opt/local/include" in *LDFLAGS* break things?
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[20:00:17] <richlowe> if it got passed to ld itself, yes
[20:01:25] <nahamu> QEMU is stupid.
[20:04:45] <nahamu> okay, admittedly it's QEMU 1.1.2 which is old, but still.
[20:05:07] <nahamu> I have to trick the configure script by messing with LDFLAGS to have the -I part in it
[20:05:16] <nahamu> but I have to undo that before I actually build.
[20:06:26] <nahamu> (why I didn't have to do this before is a bit beyond me at the moment)
[20:09:22] <Meths> Normally you'd pop the -I in CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/CPPFLAGS and the -L in LDFLAGS. If you need -I in LDFLAGS something looks wrong.
[20:10:19] <nahamu> it was already in CFLAGS and CPPFLAGS
[20:10:38] <nahamu> and I'm pretty sure it was c code, not c++, but I can try modifying CXXFLAGS.
[20:13:45] <nahamu> nope. definitely need to trick it with something other than CFLAGS CXXFLAGS or CPPFLAGS...
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[20:17:11] <nahamu> hmm
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[20:21:57] <nahamu> ugh https://github.com/nshalman/qemu/blob/1.1.2-for-illumos/configure#L40
[20:22:35] <nahamu> it happily uses LDFLAGS, but uses QEMU_CFLAGS because it's a special little flower.
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[21:12:34] <richlowe> So, do we actually posses a debugger which works even as marginally as normal, and is not mdb?
[21:25:44] <Licenser> gdb?
[21:27:13] <richlowe> the version I'm using certainly isn't
[21:27:14] <richlowe> nor is dbx
[21:27:19] <richlowe> maybe I'm just that lucky
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[21:31:14] <Licenser> richlowe ouch
[21:37:16] <rmustacc> Not that I know of.
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[21:55:05] <richlowe> rmustacc: fwiw, I have a "fix" in that the result is good, but I have no idea if the reason it works is good
[21:55:19] <richlowe> rmustacc: I also have no real idea how to determine either way
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[22:23:03] <Meths> Anyone know where node decides it'll use /bin/sh for all the gyp stuff in it's configure/build process?
[22:35:40] <nahamu> Meths: could it be tools/install.py?
[22:38:41] <nahamu> http://fpaste.org/zkRq/
[22:39:07] <nahamu> (that's the output of "git grep bin/sh"
[22:39:51] <Meths> The comment and general context of that line suggest not. That's for setting the shebang in node files I think.
[22:40:18] <nahamu> yeah, there are a few more hits at the bottom of that grep output that look interesting, but I haven't looked much further...
[22:40:33] <Meths> tools/gyp/pylib/gyp/xcodeproj_file.py is a possiblity but that looks xcode specific.
[22:41:15] <nahamu> I really with github had a UI for doing the equivalent of "git grep"...
[22:41:20] <nahamu> s/with/wish/
[22:41:32] <Meths> This is being forked by python, is /bin/sh a python default for forked processes?
[22:42:00] <nahamu> did you check the value of $SHELL?
[22:43:34] <nahamu> it could indeed be a default: http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2011/04/how-use-bash-shell-python-subprocess-instead-binsh/
[22:52:50] <rmustacc> richlowe: That's frustrating.
[22:53:11] <rmustacc> Meths: /bin/sh is the default. Generally it's the equivalent of calling system()
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[22:54:31] <rmustacc> richlowe: I assume the problem with determining whether or not the fix works is a debugger which can process it?
[22:58:21] <rmustacc> And because mdb does not actually use those sections, it's not very useful?
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[23:14:22] <richlowe> rmustacc: that's one of the problems, yes
[23:14:25] <richlowe> the other is I'm just not certain I'm thinking it through properly
[23:17:29] <richlowe> rmustacc: My other problem, is what I described to you earlier, the "right thing to do" could quite easily screw the data up as well
[23:17:46] <richlowe> so presumably what I might need is for it to just not work for the same reason, too
[23:17:53] <richlowe> but right now neither of them work with perfectly fine things, either.
[23:18:31] <richlowe> right now, the best I can say is "they dwarfdump the same"
[23:19:03] <rmustacc> Well, at least that's something.
[23:19:15] <rmustacc> Assuming, you know, they should.
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[23:33:24] <Meths> Yep, thanks, found where to sort the shell. Ran into ifaddrs.h lacking though so not worth pursuing.
[23:36:44] <rmustacc> You can disable that.
[23:37:00] <rmustacc> I assume you're on something like S10 or maybe 121?
[23:37:06] <Meths> S10
[23:37:15] <rmustacc> Yeah, it's an optional configuration option.
[23:37:26] <rmustacc> It just means that you can't list the interface addresses.
[23:37:47] <rmustacc> That's about it.
[23:38:16] <Meths> Cool, thanks.
[23:38:43] <rmustacc> I think it means you lose just this function: http://nodejs.org/api/os.html#os_os_networkinterfaces
[23:39:19] <rmustacc> But it's been a while since I've been in that code.
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[23:42:12] <Meths> Seems to be chugging along nicely. If you have that configure option but the thing breaks with /bin/sh should I file a bug for node on S10?
[23:43:12] <rmustacc> I'd have a patch in hand if you could.
[23:43:26] <rmustacc> No one working on it these days has S10 sitting around.
[23:43:51] <rmustacc> No one is trying to keep S10 support around generally, tbh.
[23:44:12] <rmustacc> That said, no one is trying to break it,
[23:44:41] <rmustacc> Obviously if something is assuming bash or ksh93, or something else that isn't an shism, that's a bug.
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