December 22, 2012 
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December 22, 2012 [00:03:06] *** neophenix has quit IRC[00:04:27] *** mamash has left #smartos[00:04:52] *** mamash has joined #smartos[00:06:24] *** nikolam has quit IRC[00:11:22] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[00:13:12] *** masked has joined #smartos[00:13:18] *** masked has quit IRC[00:13:18] *** masked has joined #smartos[00:13:33] <masked> hi yall[00:13:46] <masked> thought i might as well as, before i attempt this[00:13:57] <masked> can i use a smartos box as a sdc compute node?[00:14:47] *** mamash has left #smartos[00:16:26] <wesolows> no[00:16:49] <wesolows> in order for SDC to work, you'll need to boot and setup the CN using SDC, not SmartOS.[00:18:31] <masked> oh bummer[00:19:01] <masked> is there a way to install sdc as a cn on an running smartos instance?[00:19:24] <masked> i only ask because i have the adoption image and AMD machines[00:19:35] <masked> i have a nice stable AMD system running with SmartOS[00:19:49] <wesolows> I'm not sure. It would be unsupported if so. We've done some limited engineering work on SDC-within-SDC but I don't think anyone's tried SDC-in-SmartOS.[00:19:55] <masked> I was hoping I could just setup another box with SDC for administration[00:20:41] <masked> i guess at least some of the packages i'd need would be behind a paid firewall..?[00:21:16] <wesolows> There are no packages; it's simply not supported. The only things we've done with that are strictly internal development work.[00:22:11] <masked> by that i meant packages/datasets that are typically only used for or distributed with SDC[00:22:35] <masked> i'll install SDC head node and see what i can come up with[00:22:48] <wesolows> oh. actually I think there are a few like that, but I think they're JPC only -- things like Windows or Zeus that have their own non-Joyent licensing requirements.[00:28:04] <masked> i also was leaning towards sdc compute node management/connectivity when talking additional data/binaries in that regard[00:39:09] <konobi> masked: sdc definitely needs everything from the ground up and on intel chips too[00:41:29] <konobi> rmustacc: that guy on the list... has he tested his NIC directly? could be dodgy card/cable[00:45:32] <masked> konobi: perhaps thats why init creating pools failed on initial sdc boot[00:45:38] <masked> on an amd[00:57:14] <rmustacc> konobi: I have no clue.[00:57:20] <rmustacc> All I get thrown at me are numbers.[00:58:04] <konobi> looks like he was getting 15-18% packet loss to begin with... sounds like dodgy hw to me[00:59:09] <rmustacc> Feel free to add mail and ask.[00:59:50] <konobi> k... might do that later when i'm not as spaced out[01:05:15] <masked> does anyone have any freebsd datasets handy?[01:06:06] <konobi> http://datasets.at/datasets[01:07:09] <masked> then i just copy the relevent code into a single json payload?[01:08:53] *** daleg has quit IRC[01:12:54] *** Webhostbudd has quit IRC[01:13:09] <masked> yep :) yep i do :)[01:48:22] *** haydock__ has joined #smartos[01:49:07] *** haydock__ is now known as haydock[01:50:45] *** haydock_ has quit IRC[01:56:21] *** thalin has joined #smartos[01:56:22] *** thalin has joined #smartos[02:10:15] *** xmerlin has quit IRC[02:30:51] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[02:37:57] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[02:49:43] *** ryancnelson has quit IRC[02:52:35] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[02:56:49] *** ryancnelson has quit IRC[02:58:14] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[03:00:28] *** ryancnelson has quit IRC[03:01:09] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[03:03:38] *** haydock has quit IRC[03:07:05] *** newlix_ has joined #smartos[03:37:03] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[03:39:11] *** daniel_wu has quit IRC[03:39:53] *** daniel_wu has joined #smartos[03:48:21] *** newlix_ has quit IRC[03:56:25] *** newlix_ has joined #smartos[03:57:06] *** jamesd has quit IRC[04:02:00] *** joe_d has quit IRC[04:04:11] *** scubasteve has joined #smartos[04:04:18] <scubasteve> hello and good day all[04:04:48] <scubasteve> konobi, rmustacc, merlinDMC, I am hitting "Error: zfs receive exited non zero: 1" when trying to import a dataset (linux)[04:05:10] <scubasteve> I see from a quick google search that this came up a few days abot for a chris---... but I don't see a resolution[04:05:18] <scubasteve> I've tried zfs list -t all and nothing comes up[04:05:31] <scubasteve> this is a brand new install (just re-installed tonight)[04:05:39] <scubasteve> any thoughts? :( I'm kind of at a loss[04:05:45] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[04:06:11] *** rc10 has joined #smartos[04:08:06] *** ira has quit IRC[04:12:45] <konobi> using imgadm?[04:18:57] <scubasteve> yes[04:19:15] <konobi> run imgadm update?[04:19:25] <scubasteve> did that[04:19:35] <scubasteve> done came up very fast, but no errors[04:20:47] <konobi> so `imgadm import <uuid>` ?[04:20:53] <scubasteve> yes[04:21:10] <scubasteve> uuid can be different[04:21:16] <scubasteve> trying dsadm import now[04:21:27] <scubasteve> I *think* they are the same, according to the docs[04:21:51] <scubasteve> or am I smoking more crack?[04:22:05] <konobi> should be[04:22:20] <konobi> and you got the uuid from imgadm list ?[04:22:46] <scubasteve> yes[04:23:04] <konobi> odd[04:23:09] <konobi> which uuid?[04:24:47] <masked> i have an onboard gigE realtek that doesn't show up at boot[04:24:59] <masked> but if i load the kernel module it shows up[04:25:18] <konobi> masked: you may need to add the pci id[04:25:26] <masked> now how do i go about adding a /kernel/drv/bge.conf given the persistent state?[04:25:42] <masked> where would I add the pci id? konobi?[04:25:44] <konobi> you can open up the image[04:25:53] <konobi> (on the usb key)[04:26:20] <masked> can that be done from the smartos box?[04:26:30] <konobi> yes... lofiadm[04:26:54] <konobi> scubasteve: ?[04:27:33] <scubasteve> ok[04:27:52] <masked> konobi: little more hint?[04:27:59] <scubasteve> Block Device File Options[04:28:17] <konobi> scubasteve: uuid of your image?[04:28:24] <konobi> masked: check the wiki[04:28:34] <scubasteve> \/dev/lofi/1 /usr.lgz Compressed(gzip)[04:28:44] <scubasteve> nix the first '\'[04:29:30] <scubasteve> or was that for masked? :)[04:30:14] <konobi> scubasteve: was after the uuid you were using[04:31:11] <scubasteve> 583287ae-366b-11e2-aea4-bf6c552eb39b[04:31:15] <scubasteve> its funny[04:31:41] <scubasteve> now I'm doing imgadm list and nothing is coming back (I've opened a second ssh session and running that command while trying to do an import again)[04:32:22] <konobi> imgadm update... and then list should show something[04:32:49] <konobi> depending on the smartos version, you may need to add a repo file somewhere[04:34:16] <scubasteve> I downloaded the dec 03 usb img[04:34:18] <masked> uh[04:34:28] <masked> so i'm to mount the usbkey first?[04:34:48] <konobi> yup[04:34:57] <masked> not having much luck[04:35:06] <masked> either not a pcfs fs or i/o error[04:35:10] <konobi> make sure you use p0:c[04:35:35] <masked> ahh[04:35:44] <masked> it's thinking.....[04:35:48] <masked> trying to mount.[04:37:54] <masked> konobi so then which file do i treat with lofiadm?[04:37:55] <masked> unix?[04:40:44] <konobi> boot_archive[04:41:29] <masked> can i create more lofi loopbacks?[04:42:06] <masked> nvm[04:42:18] <masked> now[04:42:30] <masked> i guess i mount the /dev/lofi/2 device[04:43:17] <masked> ahh lovely[04:43:47] <masked> now i can add the rge.conf, but where was the pci id entry meant to go?[04:44:16] *** newlix_ has quit IRC[04:45:29] <konobi> masked: check the docs for update_drv[04:48:24] <scubasteve> still no luck for me[04:48:31] <scubasteve> imgadm avail lists everything once again[04:48:35] <scubasteve> same uuid 583287ae-366b-11e2-aea4-bf6c552eb39b[04:48:54] <scubasteve> the import takes at least 5 minutes before it borks :)[04:49:42] <scubasteve> konobi; HA!! It just imported successfully[04:49:46] <scubasteve> after like 9 tries[04:50:38] <konobi> dodgy connection?[04:52:01] <masked> konobi: how do i find the pci id currently in use by rge?[04:52:13] <masked> (i guess thats what i'm meant to be adding)[04:52:32] <konobi> prtconf[04:53:27] <scubasteve> I've not had this problem before. I *was* running some torrents earlier and had no bandwidth problems[04:53:33] <scubasteve> the torrents have been off for awhile[04:53:39] <masked> hmm[04:53:48] <masked> rge added but failed to attach[04:53:54] <masked> and i tried modload which seemed to work[04:54:07] <masked> but prtconf doesn't display anything about rge[04:55:31] <konobi> prtconf -v[05:04:45] <masked> weird[05:04:48] <masked> i dont see it listed there.[05:07:42] <konobi> is it disabled in bios?[05:09:14] *** newlix_ has joined #smartos[05:10:59] *** potatosalad has quit IRC[05:13:58] <masked> no, but it's 'boot rom' was[05:14:17] <masked> booting smartos now, see what happens[05:15:37] <masked> if it detects new nics on boot will it add them?[05:21:53] <konobi> yes[05:24:41] *** arekinath has quit IRC[05:24:52] *** arekinath has joined #smartos[05:24:52] *** arekinath has joined #smartos[05:45:13] *** wolstena has quit IRC[05:45:30] <scubasteve> konobi, thanks for the assist[05:45:34] <scubasteve> everything is working now[05:45:38] <konobi> scubasteve: np[05:45:42] <scubasteve> ubuntu up and running[05:45:44] <scubasteve> weeeeeee[05:45:46] <scubasteve> merry xmas[05:45:56] <scubasteve> sab+sickbeard will be running soon once more[05:46:00] <konobi> scubasteve: arch is also fun to play with[05:46:09] <scubasteve> arch?[05:46:50] <scubasteve> wazzat??[05:48:52] <scubasteve> archlinux?[05:49:46] <konobi> yup[05:50:15] <konobi> scubasteve: http://datasets.at/datasets/add7270a-df59-11e1-8214-b7162f4afb5e[05:55:09] <rmustacc> masked: If you run prtconf -dD you'll see what you want.[05:55:35] <rmustacc> I find that a bit easier thatn -v.[05:55:45] *** rc10 has quit IRC[05:56:29] <scubasteve> hmmmmmm[05:56:38] <scubasteve> time to play :D[05:58:42] *** newlix_ has quit IRC[05:59:30] *** newlix_ has joined #smartos[06:01:14] *** newlix_ has quit IRC[06:07:07] *** darjeeli_ has quit IRC[06:11:22] *** potatosalad has joined #smartos[06:14:06] *** rc10 has joined #smartos[06:24:31] <konobi> i also need to work out a way to get linux not to fdisk on start[06:24:54] <konobi> fsck even[06:27:17] <Zigara> try shutting down properly[06:28:29] <konobi> Zigara: nah, it's to do with the whole "fsck if we haven't run fsck since ..."[06:28:34] <Zigara> ahh[06:34:24] <chris---> never use linux again[06:36:23] <konobi> still need to use it for the odd thing[06:44:03] *** deirdres has quit IRC[06:55:07] <wesolows> tune2fs[06:55:24] <wesolows> I don't recall the exact argument -- -m 0? -c 0? something like that.[06:55:39] <wesolows> though I recommend taking chris---'s advice instead[07:00:30] <konobi> heh[07:03:34] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[07:04:13] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[07:07:13] *** potatosalad has quit IRC[07:24:09] *** e^ipi has joined #smartos[07:47:13] <masked> rmustacc: still don't see the device i need[07:56:22] *** linuxprofessor has quit IRC[07:57:16] *** linuxprofessor has joined #smartos[08:03:18] <rmustacc> masked: prtconf shows all the devices whether they are attached or not.[08:03:48] *** newlix has quit IRC[08:03:54] <rmustacc> If you use prtconf -d you'll see the actual names of them as well.[08:05:44] <rmustacc> If it isn't there then you may have something that's preventing us from enumerating it on the PCI bus which would be rather unfortunate.[08:05:48] <rmustacc> Maybe a bios option or something like that.[08:06:06] *** newlix has joined #smartos[08:06:12] *** newlix_ has joined #smartos[08:10:06] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[08:33:10] *** newlix__ has joined #smartos[08:36:20] *** newlix has quit IRC[08:44:37] *** jamesd has quit IRC[08:47:59] *** rc10 has quit IRC[08:48:02] *** rc101 has joined #smartos[09:10:27] <masked> rmustacc: yeah that is infact the case[09:10:42] <masked> however the nic is enabled in the bios, so i dont know what other option it could be[09:10:57] <masked> it finds the intel pci and atheros pci-e wifi cards ok[09:11:12] <masked> usb and sata etc etc..[09:23:19] *** texarcana has quit IRC[09:24:32] *** texarcana has joined #smartos[09:27:09] <konobi> masked: update_drv -a -i '"pciex10de,1057"' nvidia[09:27:51] <konobi> as an example of the string used[09:44:54] *** linuxprofessor_ has joined #smartos[09:45:04] <masked> konobi: yeah i tried a few[09:45:10] <masked> all driver load, attach failed[09:47:31] *** linuxprofessor has quit IRC[09:47:31] *** linuxprofessor_ is now known as linuxprofessor[09:50:07] <konobi> masked: with pci, pcie, pciex ?[10:02:38] *** Cpt-Oblivious has joined #smartos[10:07:10] *** newlix__ has quit IRC[10:12:03] *** ryancnelson has quit IRC[10:13:28] *** masked has quit IRC[11:03:25] *** mamash has joined #smartos[11:23:25] *** bens1 has quit IRC[11:40:32] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[11:47:46] *** bens1 has quit IRC[11:54:51] *** mamash has left #smartos[12:08:55] *** rc101 has quit IRC[12:28:27] *** mamash has joined #smartos[12:30:38] *** mamash has left #smartos[13:35:36] *** masked has joined #smartos[13:39:17] <masked> do i have to define 64-bit for a kvm guest? i'm getting the 'cpu doesn't support long mode' error[13:42:12] <masked> windows 64bit installed fine..[13:48:24] <masked> ahh, think it's cos i set the cpu type to host[13:49:08] <linuxprofessor> what cpu model do you have?[13:49:22] <masked> amd[13:49:57] <linuxprofessor> you can't use kvm in smartos with amd cpus[13:50:29] <masked> actually, i can.[13:50:56] <masked> got a custom image with the amd code from git[13:51:11] <linuxprofessor> ah, that explains it.hehe[13:51:12] <linuxprofessor> sorru[13:51:13] <masked> it's rather quite stable too might i add[13:51:15] <linuxprofessor> sorry =)[13:52:03] <linuxprofessor> still required a cpu with 2nd level adress translation?[13:52:09] *** Red_Devil has quit IRC[13:53:46] <masked> god knows anymore[13:53:53] <masked> it works on an old athlonii[13:54:02] <masked> and it also works on a bulldozer[13:54:21] <linuxprofessor> then the answer is no =)[13:54:42] <linuxprofessor> maybe i should give it a got on my e-450[13:54:45] <masked> i think some of the extensions may make virtualization considerable faster, but i dunno[13:54:50] <masked> nested paging or something[13:55:00] <linuxprofessor> give it a go[13:55:15] <linuxprofessor> im typing like a monkey today[13:57:39] *** Red_Devil has joined #smartos[13:58:02] *** Red_Devil is now known as Guest58651[13:59:10] *** linuxprofessor has quit IRC[13:59:31] *** linuxprofessor has joined #smartos[14:36:31] *** ins0mnia has joined #smartos[14:40:46] *** xmerlin has joined #smartos[14:52:17] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[14:53:17] *** jamesd has quit IRC[14:55:04] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[15:00:58] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[15:06:48] *** ins0mnia has quit IRC[15:18:32] *** bens1 has quit IRC[15:23:54] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[15:27:21] <masked> sweet, so it was just the cpu type = host causing the problem[15:28:29] <masked> argh but bsdinstall partedit segfaults :([15:28:51] <Zigara> thats strange[15:28:56] <Zigara> I use cpu type host all the time[15:29:06] <masked> Zigara: intel?[15:29:16] <Zigara> yes[15:29:33] <masked> well thats probably it, lack of amd implementation[15:29:39] <Zigara> ahh, yeah[15:29:44] <Zigara> I believe smartos is very intel based[15:29:50] <masked> indeed[15:30:02] <masked> i'd switch tomorrow, but i can't afford it[15:30:19] <Zigara> I like intel a bit too much[15:30:35] <masked> i bought a new i7 laptop and its great[15:30:47] <masked> intel was just too expensive for me in the past[15:30:48] <Zigara> yeah i7's are great[15:30:53] <Zigara> they still are pretty expensive[15:31:08] <Zigara> AMD is good for budget stuff, but intel will blow it away, but you will pay for it[15:31:17] <jamesd> i like my i5 laptop its fast enough... and have an hp ml350 g6 quad core for virtualization[15:31:30] <Zigara> i3/i5/i7 are very nice cpus[15:31:39] <Zigara> even more so with the new ivy bridge ones[15:34:19] <MerlinDMC> intel for smartos is not that expensive if you don't want to set it into production ... i have a small core i3 box here for smartos development + testing[15:34:53] <masked> oh, freebsd partinst is segfaulting cos i never created a disk for it haha[15:35:21] <masked> i'll buy an i5 in the next week or few[15:35:41] <masked> i have 4 amd boxes here tho i'd like to get some $$$ for[15:36:59] <MerlinDMC> hmm ... now i have an 2,5" ssd i want to put into my desktop box ... and the chassis has no place to place it -.-[15:37:31] <masked> fdd bay?[15:38:33] <MerlinDMC> duct tape! ... i love this stuff[15:39:02] <masked> MerlinDMC: does the fbsd installer support virtio disk?[15:39:08] <masked> i'm guessing not..?[15:39:16] <MerlinDMC> not the standard one ... use ide[15:40:19] <masked> easy done[15:41:29] <masked> hmm blank screen :([15:42:07] <masked> ahh win[15:42:43] <Zigara> MerlinDMC: SSD's are VERY light[15:42:49] <Zigara> I have like 2-3 ssd's sticking out of my desktop[15:42:51] <Zigara> just hanging there[15:43:08] <Zigara> every time I open a new ssd I am still amazed at how little they weigh[15:43:21] <Zigara> feels like it's just a plastic shell[15:43:35] <masked> i put one in my i7 laptop[15:44:00] <xmerlin> Zigara, consumer ssd ...an stec ssd is not so light[15:44:02] <masked> i couldn't win desktop without an ssd, i'd have pulled all my hair out[15:44:03] <Zigara> using them as your main drive, rebooting suddenly isnt bad because of how fast it boots[15:44:47] <Zigara> xmerlin: I can't imagine it being much more heavy[15:45:20] <xmerlin> a zeusiops ~ 6 times[15:45:38] <Zigara> oh wow, how much iops you getting from a single drive?[15:45:55] <masked> MerlinDMC: do you bother with zfs in kvm or just use ufs?[15:46:01] <Zigara> I got some samsung 840 pro's the other day, nearly 100k IOPS for both read/write[15:46:23] <xmerlin> it depends on the block size ...but if you want I've done some complete benchmarks some days ago[15:46:25] <MerlinDMC> masked, ufs everywhere ... you don't want to cache everything a second time[15:46:38] <masked> yeah i thought so[15:47:00] <masked> argh partinst still segfaults :([15:47:12] <masked> probably just cos it's 10-current[15:48:22] <xmerlin> Zigara, a zeusiops MLC can deliver ~45-50k IOPS read @8k and ~ 15K IOPS write[15:48:33] <masked> dammit i really was hoping to save time by not checking out source and compiling[15:48:57] <Zigara> xmerlin: 'consumer' ssd's are getting pretty crazy these days[15:49:34] <Zigara> but I assume this zeusiops has a lto of fancy features for production use[15:49:35] <xmerlin> the performances of consumer SSD are not constant[15:50:13] <Zigara> just saw the price[15:50:25] <Zigara> I'm sure they are better in a lot of ways but, wow, that price[15:50:33] <xmerlin> is a sas ssd[15:50:50] <xmerlin> it's fantastic in many ways[15:50:51] <Zigara> still, 1.4k for a 200gb MLC[15:50:56] <xmerlin> yes[15:51:03] <xmerlin> l2arc[15:51:08] <xmerlin> DB[15:51:13] <xmerlin> and so on[15:51:20] <Zigara> I was going to throw a bunch of consumer ssd's into zfs[15:51:39] <masked> get some usb3 sticks for log and cache while your at it[15:51:45] <Zigara> mixed brands so if one actually does die they hopefully don't all go at once[15:51:48] <xmerlin> they have also a great device for zil -> zeusram[15:51:49] <masked> one for log and mirror cache[15:52:13] <Zigara> masked: wat[15:52:38] <masked> Zigara: zfs log and cache[15:52:49] <Zigara> yes but, why ddi you say usb3 sticks?[15:52:50] <Zigara> lol[15:53:02] <masked> fast write[15:53:09] <Zigara> SSD's would be much better[15:53:14] <masked> yeah true[15:53:25] <Zigara> I have 2 ssd's being used for log and cache right now in a testing setup[15:53:28] <masked> unless you fill all your slots with ssd for storage[15:54:02] <masked> esata perhaps[15:54:03] <Zigara> I have 8 bays, I wanted to fill them with ssd's, 256's and 512's[15:54:08] <Zigara> it's a server[15:54:11] <MerlinDMC> illumos/smartos has no usb3 ;)[15:54:11] <xmerlin> Zigara, for log I prefer pcie cards like ddrdrive[15:54:35] <Zigara> xmerlin: see I was avoiding most pcie based things because I was not sure about the hardware support[15:55:04] <xmerlin> yes but there are some drawbacks using devices like zeusram for zil[15:55:27] <xmerlin> first of all if you don't use both sas ports ...you have ~ 60% of the performances[15:55:39] <Zigara> ouch[15:55:39] <xmerlin> more or less 60k IOPS @512[15:56:08] <xmerlin> no supermicro / chenbro backplane (without sas expander) actually expose both sas ports[15:56:27] <xmerlin> so you cannot link both ports in a simple chassis[15:57:13] <xmerlin> if you use a backplane with a sas expander the total bandwidth of the two links is shared between your disks[15:57:26] <xmerlin> and a sas expander add also latency[15:57:41] <Zigara> hm I see[15:58:04] <xmerlin> pcie card have better latency and it's less problematic[15:58:09] <xmerlin> for log[15:59:10] <xmerlin> there is also another problem ...if you add some high speed disks in a backplane with dual sas expander ...probably you bandwidth is exausted by these devices[15:59:46] <xmerlin> I prefer to directly attach HBAs to hard drives without expander ...but I've not found a backplane that fit my needs[15:59:48] <xmerlin> :([16:00:03] <xmerlin> only some stupid adaptor ...on ebay[16:00:22] <Zigara> for this setup I plan on just using 6-8 SSD's but my problem now is picking a good sas controller, I picked up this along time ago http://www.lsi.com/products/storagecomponents/Pages/LSISAS9205-8e.aspx - but I was stupid and didn't realize it was an external connector card[16:00:44] <Zigara> I was going to run a cable out the back and back into it lol, but that just seems so so horrible[16:00:56] <xmerlin> eheheh ;)[16:02:05] <xmerlin> actually I'm using some 9211-8i[16:02:09] <MerlinDMC> Zigara, i have the same as 8i version ;)[16:02:13] <MerlinDMC> ... unused[16:02:25] <Zigara> haha[16:02:25] <MerlinDMC> right hre near my display[16:02:41] <Zigara> I'm not sure how this card will stand up to 6-8 SSD's thrashing thuogh[16:03:01] <masked> YES![16:03:05] <MerlinDMC> with harddrives that one was running fine[16:03:06] <masked> freebsd10 installing :D[16:03:43] <Zigara> masked: does it support virtio yet?[16:04:01] <MerlinDMC> Zigara, since fbsd9 virtio is in the repository[16:04:07] <masked> Zigara: i dont see virtio drivers being loaded at boottime so i'd say no.[16:04:09] <Zigara> ahh good[16:04:16] <MerlinDMC> but the performance of the virtio with fbsd9 is poor[16:04:23] <masked> Zigara: but yes, it does support virtio, just need to install the driver[16:04:30] <Zigara> I compiled them manually on fbsd9[16:04:37] <Zigara> and yes the performance was very bad[16:04:50] <masked> i didn't bother checking, i just created with ide[16:05:06] <masked> am i better leaving it in ide mode?[16:05:26] <Zigara> you will get kind of bad disk performance, but for testing it will be fine[16:05:37] <masked> erruhm, i guess 10-current virtio may have matured[16:05:45] <Zigara> I hope so[16:05:48] <MerlinDMC> Zigara, i have a fbsd9 dataset up on the net ... and i'll build one for 9.1 ... maybe the performance is better now ;)[16:06:22] <Zigara> I should really start working on my smartos stuff again, been working on a web panel for it[16:06:26] <masked> i'll be doing a lot of compiling so i'll try virtio[16:06:50] <masked> Zigara: is it on github?[16:07:05] <MerlinDMC> Zigara, saw FiFo? ... the new version is not perfect but maybe helps a lot cause of the API underneath[16:07:22] <masked> yeah i have fifo 3 installed here[16:07:25] <Zigara> no, I might publish the prototype later, but it's for a new vm company[16:07:35] <Zigara> yeah I saw fifo, not since the first version or so[16:07:43] <masked> it'd be nice if datasets.at code was implemented into it to make kvm datasets[16:08:15] <masked> ide seems hap-hazard on install[16:08:39] <Zigara> I'm not a big fan of nodejs, so reading through these lib files such as VM.js have been quite horrible for me[16:08:40] <MerlinDMC> datasets.at does not make datasets ... it's just a mirror[16:08:49] <Zigara> VM.js is nearly 10k lines alone[16:09:00] <Zigara> I should say, not a big fan of javascript[16:09:34] <masked> MerlinDMC: "builder"?[16:09:44] <masked> http://datasets.at/#/configure[16:09:50] <MerlinDMC> masked, just builds a json for vmadm[16:09:56] <masked> oh[16:10:22] <masked> i would write something, but i'm way too busy with other stuff[16:10:46] <masked> perhaps i'll find time when i settle back in from holiday mode[16:10:56] <masked> just got back from a 22 day cruise[16:11:13] <MerlinDMC> you can't build a UI to build datasets ... may too much customization there - or it gets specialized for one os ... but then a minimal dataset + chef/puppet is way better[16:11:48] <masked> i'd just like to be able to install via iso[16:12:30] <masked> then snapshot[16:12:36] <masked> at choice[16:12:41] <masked> that shouldn't be too difficult[16:13:23] <MerlinDMC> hmm ... windows8 is ugly like nothing else ^^[16:13:58] <MerlinDMC> bad to need a test box with this "thing"[16:14:49] <Zigara> lol, I booted windows server 2012 in smartos, never saw it before[16:15:06] <Zigara> I recall being at the desktop and flipping out wondering where the hell the start menu was[16:15:36] <Zigara> then I finally figure its some off screen gesture, click it, takes over your full screen, ughh, really not impressed lol[16:17:09] <masked> MerlinDMC: yeah i just installed chef solo today into gz[16:17:14] <linuxprofessor> moved my blog from a ubuntu server on kvm to a zone. the execution time of my webinject check was cut in half. :)[16:17:20] <masked> but still have no idea how to use it haha[16:17:53] <masked> how do i check disk performance stats?[16:18:34] <masked> linuxprofessor awesome[16:18:42] <MerlinDMC> linuxprofessor, zones are nice for such simple things ... i have a smartos server in my office for just spinning up test machines ;) and as soon as vagrant gets more modular it'll get a smartos plugin ^^[16:19:15] <Zigara> that would be quite interesting having a smartos plugin for vagrant[16:19:39] <linuxprofessor> i've been looking at ways to monitor the gz using nagios (or well, op5 to be precise)[16:19:47] <MerlinDMC> I'm waiting for the vmware fusion one ... but smartos will be near then too[16:20:34] <linuxprofessor> just wish my smartos box had ipmi[16:21:28] <linuxprofessor> but that's what you get for being cheap and using consumer grade hw[16:24:10] <masked> disk performance stats? anyone? from the cli?[16:24:37] <masked> MerlinDMC: should untarring doc/games/lib32/ports+src be taking this long?[16:24:57] <linuxprofessor> like zpool iostat or do you need something else?[16:25:21] <masked> thats a good start[16:25:39] <masked> zones 32.7G 1.78T 1 10 14.7K 241K[16:25:42] <masked> seems slow...[16:25:59] <linuxprofessor> maybe there's not too much io happening? hehe[16:26:27] <masked> freebsd10 install is meant to be extracting tarballs[16:26:39] <linuxprofessor> i stand corrected[16:27:13] <linuxprofessor> btw, the bad performance with virtio on freebsd… is that limited to disk or is the performance just as bad with the nic drivers?[16:27:48] <MerlinDMC> linuxprofessor, nic was ok ... but also linux in kvm is not that nice with virtio ... see the mailing list[16:28:07] <Zigara> I've had decent luck with virtio under linux[16:28:18] <Zigara> so far at least[16:28:30] <masked> windows server 2012 installs with virtio[16:28:36] <masked> really quickly too[16:28:40] <masked> haven't done much more with it[16:28:54] <xmerlin> linuxprofessor, there some entry level supermicro motherboard with consumer prices and IPMI integrated[16:29:02] <xmerlin> X8SIL-F or X9SCM-F[16:29:16] <linuxprofessor> xmerlin: maybe i'll do an investment after xmas[16:29:17] <xmerlin> s/there/there are/[16:29:37] <xmerlin> I've bought a fantastic x8sil-f @130 euros some months ago[16:29:52] <Zigara> just about any recent server I've built came with some form of IPMI[16:29:58] <xmerlin> and it's awesome[16:30:05] <Zigara> even this tiny half depth 1u asus box has their own IPMI type deal[16:39:04] *** reiddraper_ has quit IRC[16:39:04] *** Raynos has quit IRC[16:39:07] *** gregburd_ has quit IRC[16:53:02] *** potatosalad has joined #smartos[16:54:55] <xmerlin> I've some problems with tcpdump on a smartos zone[16:54:59] <xmerlin> tcpdump: BIOCGDLTLIST: No such process[16:55:23] <xmerlin> I've added this repo http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/pkgsrc-2012Q3-packages-for-illumos.html[17:06:05] *** Raynos has joined #smartos[17:06:26] *** reiddraper_ has joined #smartos[17:06:40] *** potatosalad has quit IRC[17:17:01] *** gregburd_ has joined #smartos[17:25:52] *** xmerlin has quit IRC[17:33:58] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[17:34:48] *** ins0mnia has joined #smartos[17:37:20] <masked> MerlinDMC: where do i get your smartdc scripts for fbsd?[17:37:53] <masked> also i think vmadm update is broken on the version of smartos i have[17:38:03] <masked> whats a sane way to update the disks to virtio?[17:39:01] *** potatosalad has joined #smartos[17:39:16] <Zigara> there are some guides online, I forget the exact way but you basically switch ide to virtio, add the drivers, add some options to your boot conf and change some lines from sda to vda[17:39:22] <masked> i guess this smartos-vmtools from git must the the one[17:39:33] <Zigara> no I don't think that will help you[17:39:38] <masked> yeah i mean in smartos[17:39:44] <masked> shouldn't i need to change the json?[17:39:49] <masked> i've done the rest[17:39:54] <Zigara> oh in smartos you just change ide to json[17:39:55] <Zigara> er[17:39:56] <Zigara> virtio[17:40:12] *** xmerlin has joined #smartos[17:40:14] <Zigara> but make sure you have updated your fstab and such inside of the vm[17:40:14] <masked> i tried doing that[17:40:19] <masked> but it didn't work[17:40:24] <Zigara> how so?[17:40:39] <Zigara> reverts back to ide ?[17:41:00] <masked> yeah[17:41:20] <Zigara> yeah I had to power mine down and edit the .xml in /etc/zones, but[17:41:20] <masked> i think vmadm update is broken on my install[17:41:32] <Zigara> I don't think its recommended[17:41:34] <masked> i can't upgrade right now as im using the amd kernel[17:41:35] <Zigara> to be mucking in that file[17:41:44] <Zigara> masked:I had the same issu[17:41:46] <Zigara> issue[17:41:58] <Zigara> changing ide to virtio in the .xml did indeed work for me[17:42:03] <masked> ill do that[17:42:26] <Zigara> make sure its stopped first[17:44:36] <masked> all good, it worked[17:53:27] *** Cpt-Oblivious has quit IRC[18:03:54] <xmerlin> masked, the model change was fixed in 20121213[18:03:59] <xmerlin> I had the same problem[18:09:16] <masked> yeah, i cbf making another amd image right now[18:10:28] <xmerlin> masked, is it stable? ...I've some 6168 opteron waiting :)[18:11:09] <masked> yeah it's working well, ran windows server on idle for weeks[18:11:22] <masked> runs two freebsd kvm's side by side no problems[18:11:28] <masked> haven't tested it extensively yet[18:11:47] <masked> but yet to see it fail[18:12:22] <xmerlin> I've not investigated right now .. where can I download an amd version?[18:12:45] <rmustacc> You have to make it your self.[18:12:55] <masked> i uploaded the image i use earlier[18:12:56] <masked> http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/405224/smartos-20121119-amd-sata.usb.bz2[18:13:13] <masked> its a bit dated now[18:13:15] <masked> but it works[18:13:19] <xmerlin> interesting thank you[18:13:39] <rmustacc> Or it's probably easier to take an image that already exists, build the AMD module and use LeftWing's tool to merge it.[18:14:47] <xmerlin> is the amd module already in the sources?[18:15:21] <rmustacc> It's not in the Joyent sources;[18:15:24] <rmustacc> *sources.[18:15:34] <xmerlin> ok[18:15:41] <rmustacc> But it's on github.[18:16:09] <xmerlin> ok thanks[18:16:23] <rmustacc> But you can just change configure.smartos to point to his instead of ours.[18:17:17] <rmustacc> Or if you have just the binary you can use this tool: https://github.com/jclulow/smartos-isomerge[18:23:31] *** potatosalad has quit IRC[18:27:37] *** potatosalad has joined #smartos[18:38:16] *** Raynos has quit IRC[18:42:38] <masked> hmm i have no vmadm dump[18:42:53] <masked> how was a dataset/seed created in the days yonder?[18:47:41] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[18:49:58] <masked> nvm, a zfs snapshot and clone will do for now[19:10:35] *** potatosalad has quit IRC[19:17:32] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[19:25:26] *** Cpt-Oblivious has joined #smartos[19:29:23] *** scubasteve has quit IRC[20:01:24] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[20:05:28] *** sjorge has quit IRC[20:09:06] *** sjorge has joined #smartos[20:13:52] *** sjorge has quit IRC[20:16:52] *** sjorge has joined #smartos[20:33:30] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[20:33:54] *** Raynos has joined #smartos[20:41:05] *** wolstena has joined #smartos[21:18:18] *** Vod has joined #smartos[21:41:11] *** ins0mnia has quit IRC[21:48:45] *** spray 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