December 19, 2012 
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December 19, 2012 [00:05:19] *** josephholsten_ has quit IRC[00:11:23] <xmerlin> I'm trying to clone two vms, I've snapshotted source and following this guide https://gist.github.com/3090799 ...I'm trying to clone the source to a new vm but I receive many errors like:[00:11:40] <xmerlin> cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination xxxx exist ...must specify -F to overwrite it[00:11:56] *** neophenix has quit IRC[00:12:01] <xmerlin> using -F[00:12:03] <xmerlin> cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination 'zones/0cb4a314-2a01-4231-b76d-9648138b5c2d' is a clone[00:12:04] <xmerlin> must destroy it to overwrite it[00:12:29] <xmerlin> and then destroy gives me cannot umount xxxxxx Device busy[00:13:12] <xmerlin> is it possible to clone a source on an existing vm?[00:13:54] *** ira has joined #smartos[00:15:58] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[00:16:30] <deirdres> hey, folks - check out http://smartos.org/ for a special holiday gift from Joyent![00:22:59] *** AlainODea has quit IRC[00:27:08] *** kfr- has quit IRC[00:30:12] *** sjorge has quit IRC[00:30:29] <zr0> rmustacc: hp ml350e g8 prliant[00:31:31] <zr0> rmustacc: w currently a cpu0: Intel(r) Xeon(r) CPU E5-2403[00:32:12] *** sjorge has joined #smartos[00:32:29] <rmustacc> So we haven't seen this on other Sandy Bridge based systems.[00:32:37] <rmustacc> But I would start with the bios update.[00:33:45] <zr0> rmustacc: yeah, but hp customizes the bios pretty heavily.. they may write the entire thing inhouse, so we'll see what the update does[00:34:49] *** mamash has left #smartos[00:35:02] <rmustacc> Would also be good to see if another system has a similar problem or not.[00:35:07] <rmustacc> Could very well be our bug.[00:36:03] <zr0> i'll letyou know as soon as i try the new update[00:43:55] <ryancnelson> xmerlin: you're trying to zfs receive on top of a running zone's zvol.[00:44:17] <ryancnelson> where it says[00:44:17] <ryancnelson> export CLONE_UUID=`uuid`[00:44:17] <ryancnelson> … that literally runs the "uuid" comand and generates a new uuid.[00:44:23] <xmerlin> I've stopped the running zone[00:45:00] <ryancnelson> you should be receiving the zfs send into a whole new thing, with a unique uuid… if it already exists, you're doing it wrong[00:45:09] <xmerlin> now I've umounted, destroyed and cloned the zvol[00:45:28] <xmerlin> but it doesn't want to start the vm[00:45:41] <xmerlin> not it doesn't want to mount the zfs[00:45:47] <xmerlin> cannot open 'zones/0cb4a314-2a01-4231-b76d-9648138b5c2d': operation not applicable to datasets of this type[00:46:08] <ryancnelson> this is a kvm vm, right?[00:46:10] <xmerlin> no[00:46:13] <xmerlin> smartos[00:46:26] <xmerlin> base64[00:46:47] <xmerlin> in /zones it's not mounted[00:46:53] *** xer0x has quit IRC[00:48:29] <ryancnelson> i bet that doesn't show up in[00:48:29] <ryancnelson> zfs list -t all[00:48:48] <xmerlin> no, I can find it in the list[00:49:19] <xmerlin> but in the mountpoint there is a -[00:49:52] <ryancnelson> zfs get type zones/0cb4a314-2a01-4231-b76d-9648138b5c2d[00:50:16] <xmerlin> NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE[00:50:16] <xmerlin> zones/0cb4a314-2a01-4231-b76d-9648138b5c2d type volume -[00:50:27] <ryancnelson> yeah. it's not a filesystem. that's a zvol.[00:51:00] <ryancnelson> don't know how you made that, but it's not zfs sent/received right[00:51:03] <xmerlin> so the zfs send | zfs recv ...created something wrong[00:51:17] <xmerlin> ok[00:51:54] <xmerlin> thank you ...I'll redo all ...I need to learn ;)[00:52:03] <ryancnelson> what you said earlier:[00:52:04] <ryancnelson> cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination xxxx exist ...must specify -F to overwrite it[00:52:04] <ryancnelson> 3:12[00:52:04] <ryancnelson> using -F[00:52:04] <ryancnelson> 3:12[00:52:04] <ryancnelson> cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination 'zones/0cb4a314-2a01-4231-b76d-9648138b5c2d' is a clone[00:52:23] <ryancnelson> … suggests you were using the wrong arguments for your send and receive[00:52:24] <xmerlin> yes but I've removed with -F[00:52:51] <xmerlin> no arguments ...only send and receive[00:52:58] <ryancnelson> it should just work. if it complains that the receiving filesystem is already there, you've done it wrong. that argument should be brand new, and unique[00:53:17] <ryancnelson> of course there's arguments. you gave it snapshot inputs to send from, and to receive to[00:53:34] <xmerlin> ah ok ...these arguments[00:54:26] <ryancnelson> you typed "zfs recv zones/0cb4a314-2a01-4231-b76d-9648138b5c2d" … that was wrong. that should be a brand new, does-not-exist-here filesystem[00:54:43] *** D-Boy has joined #smartos[00:55:10] *** ira has quit IRC[00:56:06] <xmerlin> yes but then I've removed the existing filesystem and I've redone all[00:56:34] <yofuh> guess uou got licky and it's a kvm image of any vm you created[00:56:51] <xmerlin> no kvm image on this machine[00:57:55] <yofuh> tru fstype on the volume[00:57:58] *** D-Boy has left #smartos[00:58:42] *** ryancnelson has left #smartos[00:59:17] <xmerlin> now it works ...redone all ...I've misinterpreted one aspect ...the guide is not a vm to vm clone but a vm to template to vm clone[01:00:00] <xmerlin> thank you very much for your time ....cu ...I need to sleep ;)[01:00:27] *** xmerlin has quit IRC[01:02:52] *** AlainODea has joined #smartos[01:12:36] *** Cpt-Oblivious has joined #smartos[01:14:40] *** khushildep has quit IRC[01:15:44] *** khushildep has joined #smartos[01:24:31] *** rancor has quit IRC[01:29:57] *** wdent has joined #smartos[01:30:39] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[01:34:09] *** Cpt-Oblivious has quit IRC[01:47:48] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[01:50:37] *** wdent has quit IRC[02:14:48] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[02:16:17] <AlainODea> Is there a trusted source of an up to date undionly.kpxe? I have referenced http://boot.ipxe.org/undionly.kpxe, but I notice that the SmartOS wiki notes http://cuddletech.com/IPXE-100612_undionly.kpxe.[02:16:21] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[02:18:21] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[02:20:12] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[02:27:42] *** devicenull has joined #smartos[02:31:00] *** josephholsten_ has joined #smartos[02:32:42] *** khushildep_ has joined #smartos[02:34:18] *** khushildep has quit IRC[02:34:18] *** khushildep_ is now known as khushildep[02:44:44] *** khushildep has quit IRC[02:45:11] *** khushildep has joined #smartos[02:45:35] *** deirdres has quit IRC[02:55:18] *** josephholsten_ has quit IRC[03:08:02] *** josephholsten_ has joined #smartos[03:10:24] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[03:15:16] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[03:16:57] *** horsi has joined #smartos[03:38:07] *** haydock has joined #smartos[03:38:30] *** Vod has quit IRC[03:38:31] *** haydock has quit IRC[03:39:48] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[03:55:38] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[03:57:07] *** rc10 has joined #smartos[03:57:37] <siezer> hello... how can I see a list of all available version for a particular package from pkgin? It only seems to show the latest[03:59:50] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[04:01:39] *** ahaydock has quit IRC[04:01:44] *** dap has quit IRC[04:05:27] *** bixu_ has joined #smartos[04:05:28] *** bixu has quit IRC[04:06:21] *** josephholsten_ has quit IRC[04:38:23] *** relling has quit IRC[05:02:10] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[05:02:59] *** sachinsharma has joined #smartos[05:03:36] *** sachinsharma has quit IRC[05:03:51] *** sachinsharma has joined #smartos[05:10:03] *** wolstena has left #smartos[05:28:30] <rc10> hi, how to list all params in ndd - zfs, tcp , etc ?[05:36:36] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[05:51:27] *** relling has joined #smartos[06:00:46] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[06:01:50] *** rc10 has quit IRC[06:20:04] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[06:20:50] *** szaydel has quit IRC[06:22:18] *** sachinsharma_ has joined #smartos[06:24:20] *** sachinsharma has quit IRC[06:24:21] *** sachinsharma_ is now known as sachinsharma[06:26:13] *** trentster has quit IRC[06:50:00] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[06:52:10] *** rc10 has joined #smartos[07:01:19] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[07:02:45] *** trentster has joined #smartos[07:06:24] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[07:11:51] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[07:13:38] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[07:15:27] <zr0> rmustacc: bios update allowed me to set power profile to OS controlled and now i don't get that error msg. however, fans are still full tilt. is there something i need to enable to get speedstep enabled?[07:16:04] *** wolfeidau has quit IRC[07:17:41] <rmustacc> zr0: Speedstep doesn't control the fans. Just the frequency of the CPU.[07:18:32] <zr0> rmustacc: hmm, ok. maybe i need to fiddle around in iLO[07:19:34] <zr0> is there away to monitor what clockspeed the cores are running at from within smartos?[07:21:19] <rmustacc> I usually use some form of psrinfo[07:24:46] <zr0> rmustacc: hmm. well that shows there max speed. let me see if iLO can tell what they're currently running at since they're idle[07:24:56] *** Cpt-Oblivious has joined #smartos[07:28:03] <jelmd> psrinfo -v[07:55:52] *** sachinsharma has quit IRC[08:03:20] *** Cpt-Oblivious has quit IRC[08:04:22] *** jamesd has quit IRC[08:18:43] *** alucardX has joined #smartos[08:20:31] *** mamash has joined #smartos[08:24:35] *** kschiess has joined #smartos[08:25:16] *** thalin has quit IRC[08:30:50] *** relling has quit IRC[08:32:06] <alucardX> morning![08:36:13] <MerlinDMC> morning[08:39:18] <trentster> morning all.[08:39:21] <rc10> there is no variable zfs_top_maxinflight to set in smartos[08:39:32] <rc10> i used to be there in solaris[08:40:42] <rmustacc> The variable still exists.[08:41:46] <rmustacc> uts/common/fs/zfs/dsl_scan.c[08:42:14] <rmustacc> But we don't make it easy to tune that stuff.[08:45:24] *** mamash has left #smartos[08:46:39] *** linuxprofessor has quit IRC[08:52:17] *** iyp has quit IRC[09:12:41] *** linuxprofessor has joined #smartos[09:13:29] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[09:17:24] *** wolfeidau has joined #smartos[09:23:12] *** texarcana has quit IRC[09:24:26] *** texarcana has joined #smartos[09:24:42] <rc10> rmustacc: can i set it in /etc/system ?[09:27:44] <rmustacc> Why do you want to?[09:28:09] <rmustacc> If you're using smartos knock yourself and modify your image to have a modified /etc/system value.[09:32:19] <rc10> I want to tune zfs for scrub[09:34:25] <rmustacc> Well knock yourself out.[09:35:06] <rc10> so, setting in /etc/system will not take effect - right ?[09:36:12] <rmustacc> /etc/system works as it always has.[09:36:21] <rmustacc> The challenge in smartos is that /etc/system comes from the live image.[09:36:22] <Alasdairrr> you can adjust the values with mdb post-boot[09:36:30] <rmustacc> So you have to modify the live image directly.[09:36:47] <rmustacc> I don't know the specifics about that one, but some things you can, some things it is too late.[09:42:12] *** mamash has joined #smartos[10:23:21] <trentster> any advice / recommendations on open source software to do bandwidth accounting via snmp per switch port?[10:25:55] <linuxprofessor> cacti maybe?[10:27:09] <linuxprofessor> timed out waiting for /var/svc/provisioning to move for dea79749-b11c-405c-b18e-50b1c1fc734a <- anyone seen this before?[10:27:16] <linuxprofessor> can't figure out what's wrong[10:27:27] <linuxprofessor> happens when doing vmadm create[10:35:06] *** khushildep has quit IRC[10:39:14] <linuxprofessor> hmm. the problem was i was using "ide" as model for the hdd[10:50:16] <MerlinDMC> linuxprofessor, i had smth like that with the base(64) 1.8.3 datasets on newer platform versions ... but that was fixed in the 1.8.4 version i think[10:51:13] <MerlinDMC> but maybe you're hitting this: https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/commit/a3fd122ab68588dc853fb2c965913a9ac3e18ff8[10:53:53] <linuxprofessor> maybe[10:54:10] <linuxprofessor> just trying to create a blank kvm machine to run freebsd[10:54:35] <linuxprofessor> or pfsense, to be precise[10:55:15] <MerlinDMC> linuxprofessor, i have a freebsd9 dataset ready with virtio, smartos-vmtools and automatic setup of authorizedkeys ect.[10:55:35] <linuxprofessor> still doesn't help when it's pfsense i want =)[10:56:10] <linuxprofessor> i always have stupid ideas about running my router/firewall in a vm[10:56:35] <linuxprofessor> should probably just get a dedicated box[10:56:46] <MerlinDMC> maybe that broke with zone transitions coming into the platform ... i'll create an empty vm to check[11:00:15] <MerlinDMC> linuxprofessor, seems to work fine for me https://gist.github.com/8cbe16e1cb760455b7a6[11:01:02] <linuxprofessor> i'll give it another go with minimum info in the json file[11:01:40] <linuxprofessor> worked[11:01:42] <linuxprofessor> huuuum :)[11:02:15] <linuxprofessor> tnx for the help, time to figure ut WHERE it went wrong[11:03:12] *** sjorge has quit IRC[11:05:11] *** sjorge has joined #smartos[11:06:39] <MerlinDMC> linuxprofessor, post your json file and we can have a look[11:07:26] <linuxprofessor> http://pastebin.com/QXtUNgts[11:07:30] <linuxprofessor> that's what i used[11:09:42] <linuxprofessor> anyways, lunchtime[11:09:44] <MerlinDMC> that also works fine ... here[11:09:55] *** KermitTheFragger has joined #smartos[11:19:48] <Alasdairrr> rc10: forgot to say earlier today, http://broken.net/uncategorized/zfs-performance-tuning-for-scrubs-and-resilvers/[11:43:18] *** mamash has left #smartos[11:50:57] <rc10> Alasdairrr: thnx[11:54:42] *** bayoda has joined #smartos[11:58:33] *** riceo has joined #smartos[12:19:54] *** notmatt has quit IRC[12:20:38] *** notmatt has joined #smartos[12:44:44] *** rc101 has joined #smartos[12:44:45] *** rc10 has quit IRC[13:12:42] *** newlix has quit IRC[13:13:12] *** kschiess has quit IRC[13:20:07] *** newlix has joined #smartos[13:43:06] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[13:45:31] *** mamash has joined #smartos[13:58:52] *** Teknix has quit IRC[14:03:03] *** Teknix has joined #smartos[14:05:58] *** Teknix has joined #smartos[14:19:32] *** lafa has left #smartos[14:39:44] *** sachinsharma has joined #smartos[14:44:20] *** khushildep has joined #smartos[14:51:41] *** marsell has joined #smartos[14:56:28] *** sachinsharma has quit IRC[14:57:36] *** ahaydock has joined #smartos[14:58:29] *** ahaydock has quit IRC[14:58:39] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[15:02:57] *** ahaydock has joined #smartos[15:09:22] *** jim80net has joined #smartos[15:16:44] *** rc101 has quit IRC[15:19:47] *** jim80net has quit IRC[15:21:02] *** Cpt-Oblivious has joined #smartos[15:21:18] *** ahaydock has quit IRC[15:23:19] *** jim80net has joined #smartos[15:30:54] *** khushildep has joined #smartos[15:33:05] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[15:43:54] *** ira has joined #smartos[15:55:58] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[15:58:37] *** mamash has left #smartos[16:00:13] *** linuxprofessor has quit IRC[16:09:52] *** neophenix has joined #smartos[16:10:10] *** CarlosC has joined #smartos[16:12:58] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[16:17:45] *** rc10 has joined #smartos[16:18:58] *** mamash has joined #smartos[16:26:27] *** iyp has joined #smartos[16:27:31] <iyp> Some of my zones can't ping anything off box. The others (and the GZ) work just fine. Any ideas on where to start looking for the problem?[16:28:38] <wesolows> does that include the assigned default gateway?[16:29:08] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[16:29:36] <iyp> Yes, but only because the gateway is setup to drop pings[16:30:10] <iyp> Would that be a problem[16:30:24] <jperkin> wow, people still do that? :)[16:31:08] <iyp> Mostly just me being overly tight about the gateway's firewall rules[16:31:20] <iyp> guess I never whitelisted pings coming from the internal netwoek[16:31:24] <iyp> network*[16:31:50] <iyp> jperkin: btw, got some great feedback from the pkgsrc-wip maintainer[16:32:55] <iyp> jperkin: he was talking about something with python in the plist that I didn't understand though[16:33:06] <iyp> "I think if you include the proper lang/python/*mk (probably[16:33:07] <iyp> extension.mk), 'make print-PLIST' will do the right thing."[16:34:50] <jperkin> yep, iirc your package included some python modules[16:38:19] *** DinMamma has joined #smartos[16:39:19] <iyp> jperkin: yeah, there's actually a python driver that's packaged in a different tarball. Would there be a clean way to integrate that whole thing?[16:40:17] <jperkin> iyp: normally you'd have a separate package for that if it's not part of the main package.[16:41:31] <iyp> ok, that makes sense. 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Never a bad plan. ;)[22:04:32] <deirdres> I wish[22:04:56] <deirdres> we just had free Mexican food leftover from last night's meetup...[22:05:21] <ira> heh...[22:05:49] <deirdres> for better and for worse, though tech in the Bay Area in general is awash in cash, it's not quite the free for all it was back in 2000[22:06:04] <deirdres> and we're not seeing quite the level of stupidity we did then[22:06:08] <ira> That's probably for the better.[22:06:12] <deirdres> indeed[22:06:24] <ira> Hopefully the cycle won't be as hard.[22:06:25] <deirdres> though I admit I miss flying business class![22:06:30] <MerlinDMC> "Ghosts of Disater porn past?" ... i like the idea ;)[22:06:40] <deirdres> we could probably round up Bryan's greatest hits[22:06:41] <ira> I'd love to hear that.[22:06:55] <deirdres> I still have a bunch of short Solaris history clips I haven't edited[22:07:13] <deirdres> from the night Bryan, Brendan and I wandered around the closing MPK campus and he told stories for 2+ hours[22:07:22] <deirdres> a couple of them are out[22:07:27] *** neophenix has joined #smartos[22:07:56] <ira> And as far as food goes.. If it's free… nerds eat it.[22:08:13] <ira> Want to get attendance at a meeting.. "Pizza".[22:08:14] <ira> :)[22:09:12] <ira> (And I'm not saying Joyent is awash in cash. I'm more saying it is a cultural thing to love free food to almost a silly degree.)[22:09:19] <jamesd> don't forget the beer, its more important than food...[22:10:29] <iyp> beer can be food[22:10:30] <ira> jamesd: I've had enough free beer talks for a lifetime ;)[22:12:17] <e^ipi> impossible[22:12:38] <ira> e^ipi: Is that free as in freedom or free as in free beer? :)[22:12:45] <e^ipi> yes?[22:12:51] <e^ipi> why not both[22:13:01] <ira> Most certainly. :)[22:13:11] <ira> I try to get as much as I can out there.[22:13:15] <e^ipi> the freedom to drink beer. (offer void in Utah)[22:14:50] <jamesd> the freedom to drink guiness that someone else bought...[22:17:13] <e^ipi> why not just cut out the middle man & suck on pennies directly[22:17:32] *** wolfeidau has joined #smartos[22:18:04] <e^ipi> I don't know what it is with guinness , every time i've had it it just tastes like well circulated pennies to me[22:18:10] <e^ipi> given, i haven't been to ireland[22:20:57] <quasi> e^ipi: it has happened from time to time that guinness was poured right even outside ireland[22:22:46] <konobi> i had some at the factory recently... yum[22:23:20] <e^ipi> meh, i just wrote it off; i enjoys stouts. I live in the nation of cascadia though so like texas and guns there's ~ 2 microbreweries for every man woman & child[22:23:23] <quasi> guinness is for you[22:24:16] <linuxprofessor_> a pint of guinness is like eating a loaf of bread[22:24:23] *** linuxprofessor_ is now known as linuxprofessor[22:24:26] <e^ipi> with some pennies mixed in to it[22:25:16] <linuxprofessor> yummy pennies[22:25:57] <jperkin> mmm guinness[22:26:08] <linuxprofessor> incas on tv telling me about the end of the world[22:27:41] <linuxprofessor> might as well drink as much guinness as you can before then, right?[22:28:30] <quasi> linuxprofessor: pic.twitter.com/GUp5f2EA[22:28:52] <e^ipi> linuxprofessor: http://i.imgur.com/PVAt7.jpg[22:29:08] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[22:29:22] <linuxprofessor> teeehe[22:30:00] <linuxprofessor> i thought "omg, 45 degrees is pretty hot already". then i remembered. fahrenheit.[22:30:17] <jamesd> i would settle for friday temp tomorow... were supposed to get snow upto 12"[22:30:34] <e^ipi> it's even snowing out here[22:30:52] <linuxprofessor> prolly getting snow here too tomorrow[22:30:54] <e^ipi> damnit global warming, what gives?[22:31:23] <quasi> global warming, local cooling[22:31:34] <linuxprofessor> im just gonna sit at work grunting at my coworkers[22:31:34] <ira> We're seeing warming… No real snow yet.[22:31:38] <linuxprofessor> sounds like a plan[22:32:02] *** neophenix_ has joined #smartos[22:32:25] <jamesd> well we had a snow drought here.. 290 days without a snow, it was a record.[22:32:55] <linuxprofessor> snow's evil[22:33:08] <jamesd> 115f heat is hell...[22:33:25] <ira> "It's a dry heat."[22:33:38] <linuxprofessor> i wouldn't mind some summer right now[22:33:40] <quasi> a bit of snow is nice[22:33:48] <potatosalad> does anyone know how to persist a setting in /etc/system?[22:33:49] <konobi> "game over man... game over"[22:34:11] <e^ipi> I dunno, I'm really lanky. lots of surface area : volume. I can handle heat like a champ but i *hate* being cold[22:34:16] <e^ipi> ironic that i'm canadian.[22:34:39] <ira> potatosalad: I usually just rebuild the OS with the correct changes made to the overlay.[22:34:46] <potatosalad> specifically "set apix_enable = 0" in /etc/system (related to E3-1270 SandyBridge throwing a kernel panic about the apix module: https://www.illumos.org/issues/3166)[22:34:51] <linuxprofessor> i'm swedish, i'm supposed to snuggle with polar bears[22:34:54] <linuxprofessor> but. no.[22:35:33] <potatosalad> ira: is there a good guide you'd suggest for rebuilding the image?[22:35:53] <e^ipi> the readme is about the best you're going to get[22:35:57] <ira> http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Building+SmartOS+on+SmartOS[22:36:06] *** neophenix has quit IRC[22:36:07] <ira> follow the directions. It works.[22:36:33] <ira> Or at least the snapshot I froze about 1mo ago does ;)[22:36:52] <yofuh> potatosalad: and is overkill, you can just mount the bootarchive and edit the /etc/sysytem[22:37:12] <potatosalad> I tried that out locally a few days ago without much success (I think I used the latest base64 instead of the older smartos dataset, which may have been my problem)[22:37:58] <potatosalad> yofuh: is the first code block on this wiki page what you're talking about? http://documentation.baremetalcloud.com/display/bmc/Create+a+SmartOS+bare+metal+image[22:38:03] <ira> yofuh: I always liked that it gave me a timestamped version, so I could tell them apart.[22:38:06] *** gkyildirim has joined #smartos[22:38:12] *** relling has joined #smartos[22:38:36] *** neophenix_ has quit IRC[22:38:39] <e^ipi> yes, the warning that says "do not use any other image" isn't really open to interpretation[22:39:31] <yofuh> potatosalad: no, i'm not talkong about the wiki, i'm talking about lofiadm -a, mount and vi[22:39:36] <ira> I've been meaning to fix up the /etc/release script so it lists all the default components that get checked out and their versions.[22:40:02] *** rcamera has joined #smartos[22:40:15] <potatosalad> e^ipi: I read it as "Do whatever feels good for you." They need to make it bold or something.[22:40:45] *** CarlosC has quit IRC[22:40:59] <e^ipi> :)[22:41:05] <ira> (Like the kvm bits, the overlay.. etc, smartos-live… everything that you get from git.)[22:41:18] <potatosalad> mkay, that'll work, thanks for your help everyone[22:54:31] *** xmerlin has quit IRC[22:56:54] <rmustacc> potatosalad: What box are you using that's hitting that?[22:57:20] <rmustacc> You probably have an option in the bios to disable the apix if you want.[22:57:57] <rmustacc> I may have some hardware that causes that, but I'm not sure.[22:59:04] <rmustacc> Given that I'm the person stuck knowing it the most I may have some bits for you to try.[22:59:12] <potatosalad> I'm actually running it on a softlayer dedicated machine: https://www.softlayer.com/Sales/orderServer/126/13738[22:59:33] <potatosalad> so what does the extended APIC do?[23:00:04] <linuxprofessor> you can't order it with smartos, booo :-p[23:00:46] <potatosalad> tell me about it[23:00:56] <rmustacc> potatosalad: Give me a bit.[23:01:29] *** wolstena has quit IRC[23:06:09] <potatosalad> rmustacc: not to distract any more than I already have, but do you know if these issues are present on E5-26xx (SandyBridge) processors, too?[23:07:29] <rmustacc> So this is bios specific.[23:07:41] <potatosalad> oh really?[23:07:46] <rmustacc> On all my sandy bridge systems which are E5-26xx's you don't hit this[23:07:55] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[23:08:02] <rmustacc> Basically with Sandy Bridge we have a new mode for the apic to operate in.[23:08:12] <ira> I'll add my test E5-2690 has worked like a champ.[23:08:17] <rmustacc> Traditionally the bios starts in the original mode. A few bioses start it in the new mode.[23:08:20] *** newlix_ has joined #smartos[23:08:23] <rmustacc> In that case we don't handle it correctly.[23:09:32] *** newlix has quit IRC[23:10:31] <rmustacc> potatosalad: It basically changes the way you right to the interrupt controller and it supports having more than 256 processors.[23:10:40] <rmustacc> s/right/write[23:10:55] *** szaydel has quit IRC[23:11:47] <potatosalad> good deal, I just ordered the single processor server as a "test" server, I'm planning on running things in production with E5-26xx processors[23:12:22] <potatosalad> does disabling the apix module affect anything of note?[23:12:34] <rmustacc> Slighlty difffernt interrupt controller module.[23:12:46] <rmustacc> But for all practical purposes it should be ifne.[23:12:47] <rmustacc> *fine[23:13:14] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[23:14:02] <potatosalad> okay[23:15:11] <potatosalad> is setting the "set apix_enable = 0" in /etc/system the recommended way to disable the module?[23:18:32] <potatosalad> rmustacc: also, thank you for your help/explanation, I greatly appreciate it[23:18:50] <rmustacc> Probably the simplest thing to do.[23:18:54] <rmustacc> Since you can't get access to the bios.[23:19:19] <rmustacc> But in the coming weeks if you're willing to help test, I can provide something in the future to test this[23:19:28] *** deirdres has quit IRC[23:19:43] <rmustacc> But that's your quickest road to working.[23:19:45] <rmustacc> Sorry for the trouble.[23:20:03] <potatosalad> absolutely, just let me know what you'd like me to do[23:20:52] <rmustacc> I think I may have something to test it locally so I'll try that first.[23:22:30] <potatosalad> that'll work, I'll be on here most weekdays if you'd like me to test something[23:24:55] *** szaydel has quit IRC[23:25:19] *** rcamera has left #smartos[23:26:41] *** rcamera has joined #smartos[23:27:10] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[23:28:43] *** rcamera has quit IRC[23:29:15] *** ira has quit IRC[23:30:01] *** rcamera has joined #smartos[23:33:05] *** jim80net has quit IRC[23:45:16] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[23:45:17] *** wolfeidau has quit IRC[23:47:38] *** chorrell has joined #smartos[23:56:11] *** killfill has quit IRC