December 16, 2012 
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December 16, 2012 [00:05:08] *** masked has quit IRC[00:29:28] <Thrae> jamesd: Also probably good to note it's not automatic, at least it wasn't for me on OpenSolaris or Solaris 11[00:30:29] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[00:31:37] <jamesd> Thrae, yeap and wasnt for ealier solaris either... scanning can take a lot of time especially when there are multiple fibre networks with disks on them[00:35:08] *** masked has joined #smartos[00:42:46] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[00:47:12] *** jesser has joined #smartos[00:55:26] <konobi> busy in here today[00:59:31] *** jesser has quit IRC[01:20:51] <masked> was earlier[01:21:04] <masked> tis a busy channel considering[01:48:06] *** iyp has quit IRC[01:54:00] <masked> anyone know where there is a webmin smf xml file floating around?[02:03:44] <masked> shame there isn't one in the smartosplus dataset, oh well[02:13:39] <xmerlin> does anyone know how to force the create of a VM with the same IP of another one ....powered off ?[02:13:48] <xmerlin> s/create/creation/[02:21:20] <masked> ooh manifold looks handy[02:22:03] <masked> nope but i guess you could use CARP[02:23:29] <masked> or perhaps update/edit the vm's variable after installation[02:23:57] <xmerlin> ok[02:23:59] <xmerlin> thanks[02:29:24] *** enmand has quit IRC[02:33:51] *** enmand has joined #smartos[02:39:01] *** enmand has quit IRC[02:46:05] *** wdent has quit IRC[02:49:06] *** wdent has joined #smartos[02:51:43] <masked> oh yay[02:51:49] <masked> svccfg export! :)[02:56:22] <masked> hmm for some odd reason every variable in the webmin miniserv.conf is prefixed with /home/pbulk/build/sysutils/webmin/work/.destdir/[02:57:11] <masked> and im not certain it was meant to install everthing in /etc/opt/pkg/webmin :S[03:19:35] *** sebasp_ has quit IRC[03:19:38] *** sebasp__ has joined #smartos[04:20:56] *** xmerlin has quit IRC[04:27:43] *** rc10 has joined #smartos[05:41:45] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[05:43:55] *** sachinsharma has joined #smartos[05:45:01] *** jesser has joined #smartos[06:29:55] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[06:43:25] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[06:43:53] *** sachinsharma has quit IRC[06:47:07] *** sachinsharma has joined #smartos[06:52:08] *** d[^_^]b has quit IRC[06:52:16] *** d[^_^]b has joined #smartos[06:53:51] *** sachinsharma has quit IRC[06:57:17] *** d[^_^]b has joined #smartos[07:16:53] *** Cpt-Oblivious has quit IRC[07:52:59] *** jamesd has quit IRC[08:12:18] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[09:23:06] *** texarcana has quit IRC[09:24:21] *** texarcana has joined #smartos[09:38:03] *** richlowe has quit IRC[09:39:04] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[10:32:19] *** masked has quit IRC[10:55:36] *** sachinsharma has joined #smartos[11:06:02] *** sachinsharma has quit IRC[13:52:33] <newlix> Can I use rbenv in smartOS?[14:37:15] <konobi> probably[14:42:54] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[14:47:56] *** mamash has joined #smartos[14:57:57] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[15:02:28] *** wdent has quit IRC[15:06:00] *** wdent has joined #smartos[15:10:59] *** enmand has joined #smartos[15:15:34] *** fsteinelX has joined #smartos[15:22:24] *** wdent has quit IRC[15:35:16] *** wdent has joined #smartos[15:37:09] *** wdent has quit IRC[16:29:27] *** enmand has quit IRC[16:29:48] *** rc101 has joined #smartos[16:31:45] *** rc10 has quit IRC[16:52:05] *** rc101 has quit IRC[16:59:12] *** masked has joined #smartos[17:00:51] <masked> is it just me or is every smartosplus dataset broken with a dud mod_passenger for apache?[17:01:25] <masked> once i figured out thats what was halting zoneinit, i didn't know how to make it proceed any further in init, even if i could[17:05:03] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[17:09:24] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[17:23:20] *** sachinsharma has joined #smartos[17:26:41] *** wdent has joined #smartos[17:27:28] *** sachinsharma has quit IRC[17:41:24] <mamash> masked: can you be more specific[17:51:40] *** Cpt-Oblivious has joined #smartos[17:52:54] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[18:50:51] <masked> mamash: apache fails to load mod_passenger and zoneinit stops[18:51:14] <masked> theres an undefined string in there or something[18:51:22] <masked> sorry i didn't take notes[18:51:44] <masked> but removing mod_passenger fixed the service[18:51:58] <masked> and i guess updating mod_passenger might also fix the problem.[18:51:59] <mamash> yeah, but this image has been around for ages, and this has never been a problem[18:52:25] <masked> i've found irc logs of atleast one other having this problem[18:52:41] <mamash> what are you running on - JPC or your own SmartOS?[18:52:45] <masked> i tried creating the zone with extra ram, which made no difference[18:52:46] <masked> smartos[18:54:56] <mamash> and which image exactly? assuming sdc:sdc:smartosplus:3.2.0?[18:55:35] <masked> yes[18:55:45] <mamash> ok trying out[18:55:47] <masked> also 3.1.0 and 3.0.7 iirc.[18:56:20] <masked> i have yet to see zoneinit complete its work[18:56:21] <mamash> noted, the plus images *are* very old and have been superseded by the 'standard' ones quite some time ago[18:56:59] <masked> yeah, i was rather keen on exploring webmin and virtualmin[18:57:05] <masked> i did manage to get them to work[18:57:12] <masked> but practically broke the zone in the process[18:57:31] <masked> now i've just installed them on a standard zone[18:57:50] <mamash> "keen on exploring webmin and virtualmin"[18:57:59] <mamash> thanks you sir, optimists still live! :)[18:58:13] <masked> well, more keen on getting my hands on gpl cloudmin and hacking away at it[18:58:16] *** xmerlin has joined #smartos[18:58:23] <masked> virtualmin is handy for what i want to do[18:58:35] <masked> not ideal, ideally i'd use multiple zones[18:58:48] <masked> but still useful all the same[18:58:49] <mamash> don't get me wrong, i've worked with both for the past 8 years more or less[18:59:28] <mamash> but everytime i hit an obstacle that's a result of trying to stay backwards compatible with the 90s... brings out the best in me (cursing wise)[18:59:48] <masked> i'm not sure if the zoneinit had any more tricks i'd yet to see, but i assume all the paths for all the modules, were all incorrect and have to be set manually?[19:00:07] <mamash> webmin modules you mean?[19:00:18] <masked> yes[19:00:28] <mamash> webmin/virtualmin have no support for smartos and assume that SunOS = OpenSolaris (and not one reasonably recent)[19:00:34] <mamash> so it assumes Blastware software etc[19:00:48] <masked> yeah ok, wasn't sure if joyent had done any patchwork there or not[19:01:14] <mamash> last time i tried to create a SmartOS patchset, and realized that in addition to several dozens separate config files, there's a ton of hard coded paths and assumptions in the code as well[19:01:17] <mamash> it's a nightmare[19:01:57] <mamash> unless you're looking for a summer project, it really has to be the webmin developer doing this[19:02:13] <masked> yeah i haven't had a chance to have a look just yet, i've been working alot on freebsd's ports system, and am finding pkgsrc rather robust[19:02:28] <masked> yeah well granted[19:02:48] <masked> i did all the paths on my last zone (i kinda broke pkgsrc a bit tho haha)[19:02:57] <masked> to get a handful of modules working in virtualmin[19:03:18] <masked> i already have projects on the go unfortunately[19:04:00] <masked> i thought it was enough to put /opt/local/bin under Program search path in the OS and Environment section in webmin config[19:04:11] <masked> unfortunately i was wrong[19:04:17] <mamash> the only advantage of the plus image is that is comes with a pre-installed tarball of virtualmin that we configure a couple of years ago, and kept updating it irregularly (which is annoying, but more or less works)[19:04:54] <masked> i see there is also a solaris zones module in the default webmin package[19:04:59] <masked> but no menu item for it[19:05:01] <masked> it seems[19:05:32] <mamash> the tarball that comes with the plus image lacks modules that make no sense here (e.g. support for CD Burner, or zones)[19:05:56] <masked> even if i could just hack that and the old webmin kvm module up i'd be happy to use webmin clusters to gain my desired level of isolation[19:06:33] <masked> well it'd have to go in the global zone anyway[19:06:49] <masked> to manage other zones, would it not?[19:06:59] <mamash> if it went to GZ, yes[19:07:11] <mamash> but that's the last thing i'd want :)[19:07:18] <masked> i think the cloudmin client connector allows you to manage from a seperate virtualmin instance[19:07:27] <masked> but you still need the server side in the gz[19:08:04] <mamash> i guess i don't see the merit knowing you'd have to patch in support for vmadm and other smartos tools to do anything reasonable[19:08:22] <masked> it'd be worth it for the point and click functionality[19:08:39] <masked> true[19:08:51] <masked> depends on the application i guess[19:09:21] <masked> as much as i love the cli[19:09:33] <masked> i get crippling pains from being at the desk all day[19:09:59] <masked> and some tasks can get awefully repetative[19:11:44] <masked> why there isn't netbsd pkgsrc support in webmin shocks me[19:12:35] <mamash> well pkgsrc had it patched in in pkgsrc[19:13:06] <mamash> but yeah, webmin/virtualmin is still a two guy projects (last time i checked) and i guess there's no enough incentive[19:13:17] <masked> ah ok[19:13:46] <mamash> i can't see anybody wanting to run any large scale operation on virtualmin[19:14:22] <mamash> we've done it at joyent and... it's a lock-in kind of[19:14:32] <mamash> ok hm[19:14:33] <masked> no certainly not, i've just come from freebsd + jails, smartos is my first taste of solaris/illumos[19:14:33] <mamash> httpd: Syntax error on line 20 of /opt/local/etc/httpd/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 29 of /opt/local/etc/httpd/includes/dso.conf: Cannot load /opt/local/lib/httpd/mod_passenger.so into server: ld.so.1: httpd: fatal: relocation error: file /opt/local/lib/httpd/mod_passenger.so: symbol _ZNSt8__detail15_List_node_base9_M_unhookEv: referenced symbol not found[19:15:00] <masked> oh cool, so i'm not the only one.[19:15:27] <mamash> the thing is, 3.2.0 was never made available on JPC. 3.1.0 is the latest version for customers to use[19:16:05] <masked> i'm fairly certain i had the same problem with 3.1.0[19:17:07] <mamash> will try that[19:17:43] <xmerlin> hello[19:17:44] <masked> oh i guess if i was to have a go at this zones module, i'd have to make it aware of zfs[19:18:12] <xmerlin> I've some problems with vmadm update ...I'm trying to change nic model from e1000 to virtio but it doesn't work[19:19:00] <xmerlin> here is my vm conf http://pastebin.com/0wfrDpNV[19:19:28] <xmerlin> and here my json to change http://pastebin.com/eq3cGgZe[19:19:44] <masked> xmerlin: what OS?[19:19:53] <masked> are you kvm'ing?[19:19:58] <xmerlin> yes[19:20:06] <xmerlin> I've installed pfsense 2.1 beta[19:20:13] <xmerlin> I've changed the conf to load virtio drivers[19:20:17] <masked> i only ask because i discovered server 2012 handles virtio out of the box[19:20:20] <xmerlin> and now I need to enable it in smartos[19:20:22] <masked> yeah[19:20:39] <xmerlin> but I cannot find the error in my json to change nics[19:20:48] <xmerlin> then I need to change also disk[19:20:56] <masked> it does get a little tricking having the nics json subsection[19:21:45] <xmerlin> vmadm update output sucessfully updated ...but it's a lier ;)[19:22:02] <masked> can't you just run vmadm update on the cli and do the json there, excluding the update_ part in the json?[19:22:13] <masked> yeah it says that often i've discovered[19:22:57] <masked> are you sure you dont have to reference the nics by their interface name[19:23:00] <xmerlin> same result[19:23:00] <masked> rather than their mac address?[19:23:14] <xmerlin> I've tried without update_[19:23:33] <masked> i remember having trouble with it too, i was lucky i got to work around the problem and not have to update[19:24:26] <masked> try this: https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/issues/106[19:24:40] <xmerlin> I've tried also referencing the interface name[19:24:44] <xmerlin> same result[19:24:55] <xmerlin> I'm looking to it[19:25:13] <masked> merlindmc's response should work[19:25:19] <masked> if infact the first post doesn't by now.[19:26:09] *** wdent has quit IRC[19:27:19] <xmerlin> it doesn't work[19:27:44] <xmerlin> I've used the same http://pastebin.com/eq3cGgZe ...but it doesn't work on model[19:30:54] <masked> oh wot! the solaris zones package is meant to work with smartos :) mamash, wish me luck[19:31:17] <masked> yeah[19:31:22] <masked> but are you using the <<EOF[19:31:24] <masked> and EOF?[19:32:14] <xmerlin> yes[19:32:23] <xmerlin> I've tried also using -f[19:32:30] <xmerlin> and putting all in a file[19:32:32] <masked> so, complete the first line[19:32:40] <masked> complete with the <<EOF and hit return[19:32:43] <masked> then paste the rest[19:32:51] <masked> and it still waits for EOF?[19:32:53] <masked> like it should?[19:33:09] <xmerlin> yes[19:34:05] <xmerlin> and vmadm update ..... -f /file.json is the same[19:34:05] <masked> Module zones does not support this operating system (SmartOS joyent_20121119T032503Z)[19:34:06] <masked> weird[19:34:12] <masked> thats not what webmin.com says[19:34:17] <masked> im gunna trick it[19:34:35] <masked> doesn't sound good xmerlin[19:34:57] <xmerlin> no ...I'm agree ;)[19:37:46] <xmerlin> argh !!! ....https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/commit/9a713533372779b53b5ab2e9d9f1d41c3ec9e720[19:39:45] *** enmand has joined #smartos[19:39:49] <masked> update?[19:40:18] <masked> or build a new smartos (in a smartos) there is a wiki page on that[19:40:18] <xmerlin> yes I'm downloading the update[19:40:21] <masked> not too complicated[19:40:22] <masked> oh[19:40:23] <masked> cool[19:45:09] <xmerlin> it's the next step ...but I need to learn many things on smartos ...my background is more linux-centric[19:45:32] <masked> Webmin is running in the beach zone, rather than the global zone. This module will only work when run in the global zone.[19:45:33] <masked> yay[19:45:56] <masked> webmin zone management here we come! :)[19:46:07] <masked> yeah same mate[19:46:15] <masked> i gave up on linux a few years ago[19:46:18] <masked> it can die in a hole[19:46:48] <Cpt-Oblivious> what specific part of linux did you dislike?[19:46:49] *** wdent has joined #smartos[19:46:57] <masked> the mess[19:48:27] *** enmand has quit IRC[19:50:05] <masked> oh damn, i made a manifest and everything for webmin in my GZ[19:50:13] <masked> now the service is stuck in damn maintenance[19:51:14] <masked> damn i wish i new about webmin-minimal then![19:52:19] <masked> im gunna have to make a persistant zone here to do this...[19:56:04] <masked> or whatever you might call it[19:56:17] <xmerlin> the update fixed the but ....20121213 ...great release :) ...my birthday ...so a great release :-P[19:56:21] <masked> another zfs pool zone for webmin in the gz[19:56:25] <xmerlin> s/but/bug[19:56:37] <masked> that was my brothers birthday too[19:57:22] <xmerlin> :-)[19:59:16] *** wdent has quit IRC[20:03:40] <xmerlin> thank you and bye bye[20:03:44] *** xmerlin has quit IRC[20:04:24] *** relling has joined #smartos[20:04:54] <masked> hmm[20:05:18] <masked> is there a way to revert the global zone back to default install?[20:05:25] <masked> i've made a bit of a mess of it over the last few weeks[20:07:08] <masked> i tried installing cfengine and some other junk now it's got only 45mb left haha[20:07:31] <masked> oh[20:07:48] <masked> think i fixed it, was part to do with a little pkgsrc hiccup i had earlier[20:10:43] <masked> im still getting this error tho after mistakenly using a incorrect repo[20:10:44] <masked> You probably want to modify /opt/local/etc/pkgin/repositories.conf.[20:10:48] <masked> You probably want to modify /opt/local/etc/pkgin/repositories.conf.[20:11:14] <masked> even after fixing the repo.conf and rm and rebuiling the pkg db[20:11:36] *** enmand has joined #smartos[20:21:05] *** mamash has left #smartos[20:38:11] *** montyz01 has joined #smartos[20:38:36] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[20:38:43] *** montyz01 has quit IRC[20:39:22] *** defa has joined #smartos[20:40:21] <masked> sweet! it works![20:41:36] <masked> however, i dont know if it uses zfs...[20:45:06] <masked> ah well it's only two zfs command lines, can't be that hard to implement[20:47:10] <masked> oh and it doesn't do datasets[20:47:11] <masked> hmm[20:48:54] *** mamash has joined #smartos[20:49:05] <masked> wb mamash[20:49:23] <masked> got the solaris zones module working in th gz[20:49:35] <masked> needs a bit of work, for zfs and datasets[20:49:43] <masked> but it displays existing ones quite well[20:53:22] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[21:02:07] <mamash> masked: the plus 3.1.0 image doesn't have that problem with passenger, but i take it you're using a dhcp based setup? the image is too old to work with that, or you need to edit /etc/hosts to make sure the current IP is there[21:02:34] <masked> no, i've been using static[21:03:15] <masked> when you say /etc/hosts, do you mean in the GZ prior to creating the plus zone?[21:04:45] <mamash> no, inside the zone[21:05:01] <mamash> if static IPs are used, then plus 3.1.0 should definitely work[21:05:56] *** Teknix has quit IRC[21:06:48] *** enmand has quit IRC[21:08:26] <masked> ok it appears i haven't tried 3.1.0 before. i'll give it a shot now.[21:09:24] *** Teknix has joined #smartos[21:22:15] *** enmand has joined #smartos[21:34:57] *** wdent has joined #smartos[21:36:30] *** relling has quit IRC[21:36:34] *** enmand has quit IRC[21:39:08] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[21:39:42] *** wdent has quit IRC[21:43:40] *** fsteinelX has quit IRC[21:46:49] *** wdent has joined #smartos[22:01:23] *** mamash has left #smartos[22:02:41] *** enmand has joined #smartos[22:03:20] *** masked has quit IRC[22:07:14] *** relling has joined #smartos[22:21:57] *** enmand has quit IRC[22:36:33] *** jatan has quit IRC[22:39:43] *** jatan has joined #smartos[22:52:07] *** iyp has joined #smartos[23:13:55] *** Thrae has quit IRC[23:13:55] *** Thrae has joined #smartos[23:26:42] *** ismell has quit IRC[23:32:44] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[23:53:39] *** masked has joined #smartos[23:53:49] *** masked has joined #smartos[23:53:55] *** wdent has quit IRC[23:54:09] <masked> well that dude iw as talking to earlier isn't here[23:54:19] <masked> but smartosplus64 3.1.0 failed[23:54:23] <masked> with mod_passenger