December 15, 2012 
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December 15, 2012 [00:06:00] *** jim80net has quit IRC[00:07:22] *** daleg has quit IRC[00:12:22] *** gkyildirim has joined #smartos[00:17:06] *** jesser has quit IRC[00:18:11] *** papertigers_ has quit IRC[00:18:40] *** gkyildirim has quit IRC[00:21:39] *** wolstena has quit IRC[00:24:46] *** papertigers_ has joined #smartos[00:55:12] *** rcamera1 has joined #smartos[00:57:37] *** iyp has joined #smartos[00:58:28] *** rcamera has quit IRC[00:58:35] *** rcamera1 is now known as rcamera[00:59:26] *** rancor has quit IRC[01:06:08] *** papertigers_ has quit IRC[01:07:56] *** rcamera has quit IRC[01:08:15] *** rcamera has joined #smartos[01:09:06] *** wolstena has joined #smartos[01:09:33] <iyp> @ryancnelson That seems like exactly what I want to do. Any info on the process of changing the switch and recompiling? Guess I'm starting with the pkg_admin man page.[01:13:51] *** Teknix has quit IRC[01:15:51] *** Teknix has joined #smartos[01:17:27] <ryancnelson> if you've installed the package, then literally just run "pkginfo -B freetds" ...[01:17:30] <ryancnelson> then see CONFIGURE_ARGS in there[01:17:45] <iyp> yeah, got that far.[01:17:52] <iyp> now I want to change them and recompile[01:18:16] <ryancnelson> … then, remove the one you don't like (—disable-odbc ?) … and run "configure" in your source (that you'll need to download)[01:18:39] <ryancnelson> … that's just a list of what the package creator did when he/she built it[01:19:00] <iyp> gotchya[01:19:18] <iyp> so the CONFIGURE_ARGS variables will change how ./configure acts in the source?[01:19:25] <ryancnelson> now, sometimes they do things like "disable-odbc" , 'cause those don't work ...[01:19:48] <iyp> that would be particularly upseting[01:19:49] <ryancnelson> usually, you run "configure" with those as arguments[01:20:03] <iyp> ok, yeah, i've been down this road then[01:20:17] <ryancnelson> odbc probably is fine… but sometimes people disable things like "epoll" that don't work on this platform[01:20:20] <iyp> I thought you were saying that I could recompile in the pkg system[01:20:35] <iyp> I'm having a lot of trouble getting freetds to build[01:21:27] <iyp> I got the whole compiler toolchain in, theres a link error i've been getting … somewhere in the code it's having trouble seeing strlen[01:22:10] <ryancnelson> sorry, i just meant "you can see how the pkg creator did it, easily, with -B"[01:22:29] <iyp> yeah no worries. It was nice to be that excited for about 15 mins.[01:23:06] <iyp> So all I have to do to replicate the compile environment is pass the contents of CONFIGURE_ARGS to make?[01:23:09] <iyp> err[01:23:12] <iyp> configure not make[01:23:55] <ryancnelson> that really depends… i mean, some projects don't even use automake/configure[01:24:09] <iyp> sorry, was assuming that. freetds does[01:24:44] <iyp> database drivers are always the biggest pita.[01:24:59] <iyp> Is that just me, or am I experiencing a common thing here?[01:26:37] <iyp> Oh wait a sec. There are a whole boatload of environment variables that are listed in CONFIGURE_ENV[01:26:43] <iyp> bet those are important...[01:26:46] <wesolows> yes they are[01:28:13] *** enmand has joined #smartos[01:28:27] <iyp> I would imagine theres gotta be a way to efficiently use the build info from pkg to replicate the compile[01:29:39] *** jamesd__ has quit IRC[01:42:46] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[01:45:35] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[01:46:45] *** enmand has quit IRC[01:58:51] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[02:00:37] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[02:15:39] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[02:18:14] *** akole_ has quit IRC[02:32:37] <iyp> Is there any way I can look up package by a file it provides?[02:38:15] *** Azbruh has quit IRC[02:38:22] *** bdha_ has quit IRC[02:38:24] *** matthewp- has quit IRC[02:38:57] *** gregburd has quit IRC[02:39:09] *** calmh has quit IRC[02:39:16] *** sebasp_ has quit IRC[02:39:19] *** killfill_ has quit IRC[02:39:20] *** ira has quit IRC[02:39:21] *** rodgort` 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darjeeling has joined #smartos[10:20:53] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[10:26:51] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[10:29:29] *** mamash has joined #smartos[10:50:58] *** bens1 has quit IRC[11:05:40] *** mamash has left #smartos[11:22:11] *** xforest has quit IRC[11:50:57] *** nikolam has joined #smartos[11:57:30] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[12:03:53] *** jamesd has quit IRC[12:12:08] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[12:22:34] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[12:29:24] *** marsell has quit IRC[12:34:48] *** mamash has joined #smartos[13:44:33] *** bens1 has quit IRC[13:52:25] *** wdent has joined #smartos[14:00:24] *** xforest has joined #smartos[14:01:37] <xforest> hi[14:03:03] <xforest> is there a 32-bit smartos download ? thanks[14:10:11] <jamesd> its either 32/64 bit or its 64bit only there is no 32bit only download... i don't see the point of a 32bit only download especially if you want to use kvm...[14:11:49] <xforest> because i want to debug v8.so[14:12:09] <xforest> in 64bit, it dose not work.[14:12:27] <xforest> so how to load v8.so 32bit?[14:23:41] <MerlinDMC> xforest, https://gist.github.com/fc12a6b9c0ec5d0f38e8[14:28:00] <konobi> http://echelog.com/logs/browse/smartos/1352329200[14:29:08] <xforest> thanks, let my try[14:30:30] <konobi> oh... nm... that was about jpc[14:37:05] <xforest> mdb -p94525[14:37:07] <xforest> Loading modules: [ ld.so.1 libumem.so.1 libc.so.1 ][14:37:10] <xforest> > ::load /usr/lib/mdb/proc/v8.so[14:37:12] <xforest> mdb: ld.so.1: mdb: fatal: /usr/lib/mdb/proc/v8.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32[14:42:36] <konobi> you'd need to do it against a 32bit version of node[14:43:49] <konobi> though i'm surprised there isn't a version under /usr/lib/mdb/proc/amd64/[14:53:45] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[15:16:53] *** xforest has quit IRC[15:18:44] *** xforest has joined #smartos[15:36:24] *** wdent has quit IRC[15:37:48] *** rc10 has quit IRC[15:49:19] *** wdent has joined #smartos[15:49:55] *** xforest has quit IRC[15:54:49] *** wdent has quit IRC[16:11:10] *** xmerlin has joined #smartos[16:20:30] *** newlix has quit IRC[16:23:19] *** newlix has joined #smartos[16:23:46] *** newlix has quit IRC[16:24:14] *** newlix has joined #smartos[16:29:40] <xmerlin> hello is it possible to create a dummy network something like an intra-vm-only network ?[16:44:04] <arekinath> an etherstub might suit what you want. it's an internal network that only runs between VMs[16:44:17] <jesse_> funny, java's currentTimeMillis() and nanoTime() take ~36ns on osx i7, and ~280ns on solaris 11 core2 quad, and ~280ns on smartos xeon. osx must cheat!=)[16:45:00] <jesse_> (on various denominations of java 7)[16:45:30] <jesse_> (oracle's java 7 on both sol11 and smartos)[17:09:46] *** iyp has joined #smartos[17:10:07] <xmerlin> arekinath, thank you I'll have a look to it[17:11:38] *** masked has joined #smartos[17:11:40] <masked> hi[17:12:04] <masked> if i want virtualmin to manage zones and/or kvm, do i install it in the global zone or not?[17:12:25] <masked> i already have installed smartosplus and have virtualmin running but it appears to be isolated to that zone[17:13:52] <masked> hmm im not sure that smartosplus dataset is any good, it seems to be missing bind8 at the very least as virtualmin checks for it on first configuration[17:13:59] <masked> i'll try again[17:14:06] <masked> perhaps with a different dataset[17:18:54] *** Cpt-Oblivious has joined #smartos[17:29:06] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[17:52:51] *** nikolam has quit IRC[17:57:20] *** mamash has left #smartos[18:13:14] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[18:14:51] <xmerlin> why percona is available only as a dataset and it's not available as a package in base64?[18:18:07] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[18:19:57] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[18:25:07] *** xer0x has quit IRC[18:27:56] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[18:28:21] *** dap has joined #smartos[18:31:39] *** dap has quit IRC[18:32:51] <Thrae> Anyone try installing napp-it on SmartOS? I'm thinking of switching an old OpenSolaris-based small business ZFS file server to SmartOS for server consolidation/redundancy and putting napp-it on there as a webgui for the fileserving.[18:37:33] *** AlainODea_ has joined #smartos[18:40:16] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[18:42:34] *** Meths has quit IRC[18:47:45] *** AlainODea_ has quit IRC[18:53:38] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[18:55:09] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[19:00:34] *** Meths has joined #smartos[19:03:35] *** jones_d has quit IRC[19:06:08] *** wdent has joined #smartos[19:11:34] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[19:14:06] *** fsteinelX has joined #smartos[19:15:18] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[19:23:24] *** mrvisser has joined #smartos[19:23:56] <mrvisser> hi all, I'm banging my head trying to get cairo installed + node-canvas, I was wondering if anyone has had success with this?[19:24:26] <mrvisser> this is the problem: ../src/Canvas.h:19:25: fatal error: cairo/cairo.h: No such file or directory[19:25:19] <mrvisser> I've installed Cairo and dependencies with pkgin install cairo[19:25:36] <mrvisser> canvas.h is located in /opt/local/include/cairo/canvas.h[19:25:44] <Zigara> why on earth would you install cario on a smartos box?[19:26:03] <mrvisser> for image cropping / resizing ..[19:26:09] <mrvisser> is there a better option?[19:26:25] <Zigara> are you running this on the host node or in an OS zone?[19:26:50] <mrvisser> OS zone I believe, it's a Joyent Cloud machine.[19:27:00] <Zigara> ah I see[19:27:22] <Zigara> you need to tell it to look in /opt/local/include in your ./configure options most likely[19:28:32] <Zigara> I keep forgetting people use smartos in zones as well, so used to deal with the live netbooted host smartos[19:28:36] <Zigara> dealing[19:28:53] <mrvisser> yea I've been trying to figure out how to make it look up in /opt/local/include. I've added it to LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and I've also symlinked /opt/local/include to /usr/local/include, which is where cairo/cairo.h is on my macbook, and it all worked flawlessly here[19:29:20] <mrvisser> this gets installed through node-gyp, so perhaps this is not the best forum to get help on it.[19:30:25] <Zigara> I'd install it manually and see the options with ./configure --help[19:30:41] <mrvisser> cool, thanks Zigara[19:30:46] <Zigara> but I am no nodejs developer[19:30:52] <Zigara> so not sure how nodejs is about that stuff[19:31:33] <wesolows> CPPFLAGS="-I/opt/local/include -I/usr/local/include" most likely[19:31:40] <wesolows> some things ignore CPPFLAGS and only look at CFLAGS[19:33:03] <iyp> http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Building+Packages[19:33:20] <iyp> that was a huge help for me when trying to compile software with certain options[19:35:13] <iyp> by default CFLAGS=-O -O2 -I/opt/local/include -I/opt/local/include/freetype2 -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include[19:35:32] <iyp> and CPPFLAGS= -D__EXTENSIONS__ -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -I/opt/local/include -I/opt/local/include/freetype2 -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include[19:35:44] <iyp> for cairo...[19:37:39] <mrvisser> hmm, still no luck.[19:37:58] <mrvisser> to be clear, cairo has installed fine, it's canvas that isn't picking up it's headers and stuff[19:38:27] <iyp> oh[19:38:35] <mrvisser> thanks for your help iyp, appreciate you all spending time on this[19:38:54] <mrvisser> *scratches head* might need a node-gyp expert :P[19:39:13] <iyp> @mrvisser no worried, I've been on a pkg kick recently. wasn't much effort from the context I'm in[19:39:20] <iyp> worries*[19:40:08] <iyp> node-canvas isn't offered in the node pkg repo, so I guess thats where my context stops applying[19:40:18] <iyp> smartos pkg repo**[19:52:59] *** rorycl has joined #smartos[19:53:22] *** mamash has joined #smartos[19:53:47] <mrvisser> ah hah! node-gyp lets you specify an "include_dirs" property[19:53:50] <mrvisser> eureka[19:56:14] <rorycl> Newbie here. I'm on a Linux team requiring ZFS to run a reasonably high-performance 40TB filestore with snapshots, send/receive. BTRFS doesn't cut it.[19:56:38] <rorycl> Could I use SmartOS for this task? (Assuming we can get to grips with userland?)[19:56:45] <rorycl> We also need HA to a second box[20:00:14] *** hafthorr has joined #smartos[20:04:16] <wesolows> What is reading from/writing to the filesystem, and what is meant by HA in this context?[20:08:47] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[20:09:06] *** ryancnelson has left #smartos[20:18:21] *** hafthorr has quit IRC[20:37:37] *** ingenthr has joined #smartos[20:40:09] *** xmerlin has quit IRC[20:46:34] *** Mouaku has quit IRC[20:48:16] *** rorycl has left #smartos[20:51:22] *** Cpt-Oblivious has quit IRC[20:54:59] <masked> does anyone know if cloudmin pro installs into a zone or the GZ?[20:58:03] <Licenser> masked does cloudmin support smartOS at all?[20:58:17] <masked> the pro version does[20:58:24] <masked> oh wait, maybe thats just solaris[20:58:26] <masked> i forget now[20:58:55] *** xmerlin has joined #smartos[20:58:56] <masked> i'm stuck with some dodgy perl cpan installs at the moment trying to install cloudmin[20:59:01] <masked> i'll get there tho[20:59:49] *** Cpt-Oblivious has joined #smartos[20:59:50] *** wdent has quit IRC[20:59:57] <Licenser> for SmartOS anything managing it would need to run in the GZ, since you can't create zones / KVM from within a zone[21:00:07] <masked> yeah thats what i thought[21:01:27] <Licenser> but unless they support vmadm & friends you'll likely have much fun with it I fear[21:02:06] <masked> oh does solaris not use vmadm?[21:03:01] <Licenser> SmartOS is quite different from vanilla solaris[21:03:15] <masked> true[21:03:50] *** mrvisser has left #smartos[21:03:53] <Licenser> and you've clicable action buttons now ;)[21:06:00] <masked> sweet, ill skip cloudmin for now and get onto some other tasks but first i'll email you those files you requested[21:06:21] <masked> because of those other problems adding networks and vm's and wrong alias names for vm's with no alias[21:06:59] <Licenser> yea I'll try to see if there is eothing in the logs that explains it so it can be fixed :)[21:09:24] *** wdent has joined #smartos[21:11:21] *** wdent has quit IRC[21:11:37] *** wdent has joined #smartos[21:13:40] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[21:27:57] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[21:28:12] <chris---> so if i read this right, if i want a 2nd physical nic i need to plub/setup that through smf or something[21:31:19] <chris---> hrm, guess not, that worked....[21:35:17] *** xmerlin has quit IRC[21:35:33] *** xmerlin has joined #smartos[21:35:52] *** xmerlin has quit IRC[21:36:08] *** xmerlin has joined #smartos[21:38:43] <xmerlin> I need to change the cyrus-imapd package (http://pkgsrc.smartos.org/packages/illumos/2012Q3/mail/ ) where can I find the sources?[21:39:59] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[21:41:13] <Thrae> I saw a blog that talked about "9000 packages added!", one moment[21:41:38] <Thrae> xmerlin: http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/9000-packages-for-smartos-and-illumos.html[21:42:08] <xmerlin> yes ...I need to change one of them[21:42:13] <xmerlin> cyrus-imapd[21:42:36] <Thrae> That blog also talks about how to add additional package sources.[21:42:58] <xmerlin> I see ...but I need the sources of the mentioned packages[21:43:30] <xmerlin> I don't want to recreate the wheel ...I need only to download the sources of the package cyrus-imapd to update it to the last version[21:43:50] <Thrae> Ohh you need *sources*. Gotcha. I thought you meant the source mirror.[21:44:50] <xmerlin> yes[21:46:26] <iyp> xmerlin: http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Building+Packages[21:47:27] <xmerlin> thank you very much ...I've missed it[21:48:35] <iyp> Happy to help. Took me a while to find it to. Very helpful.[21:49:02] * Thrae bookmarks[21:49:34] *** enmand has joined #smartos[21:49:43] <iyp> Trying to serve up a repository over http so I can pkgin in custom builds in other zones[21:51:12] <Thrae> I like how they recommend using a Joyent employee's personal github :)[21:52:52] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[21:53:13] <iyp> Yeah, apparently thats the only version that supports smf[21:54:49] <Thrae> The maintainer is the "Director of SmartMachine Engineering" at Joyent (Filip Hajný)[21:55:35] <xmerlin> iyp how do you create the "index" of the package for serving them using HTTP?[21:56:01] <mamash> the pk repo will be deprecated in the future, hence why it's not been moved under joyent yet. it's just taking longer than we anticipated ;][21:56:17] <iyp> xmerlin great question. Currently grappling with that one[21:56:42] <iyp> mamash will there be a replacement system or something? I kind of like pk[21:57:24] <Thrae> Ah, greetings and salutations Mr. Hajný :)[21:58:23] <iyp> xmerlin are you getting problems like `pkgin: Could not fetch http://[webserver]/pkg_summary.gz[21:58:45] <mamash> iyp: we are moving to pkgsrc's own pbulk framework for batch building. and things like smf should definitely be integrated nativelly[21:58:52] <mamash> generating pkg_summary is easy[21:59:11] <mamash> in the All directory, 'pkg_info -X *.tgz | gzip > pkg_summary.gz'[21:59:28] <mamash> you can also output to a .bz2 file if you want[21:59:44] <iyp> oh man, that might have just made my day[22:00:00] <xmerlin> thank you very much mamash[22:04:03] <Thrae> As someone looking to come from (official) Solaris & FreeBSD, that's excellent news.[22:04:30] <iyp> mamash pkgin is saying it can't fetch the pkg_summary.gz from the web server I'm using, but wget grabs the file fine[22:04:30] <iyp> https://gist.github.com/00c5682b6e0159b117a6[22:07:53] *** enmand has quit IRC[22:13:59] <iyp> A fresh zone seems to complain the same way about the joyent repo too tho… weird[22:18:58] <mamash> huh[22:19:41] <mamash> if you gzcat that file it should be just a flatfile with all the package metadata?[22:20:14] *** fsteinelX has quit IRC[22:20:23] <iyp> yeah, separated by blank lines[22:21:41] <mamash> ditto with 'curl http://10.0.2.26:8080/x86_64/All/pkg_summary.gz|gzcat|head'? <http://10.0.2.26:8080/x86_64/All/pkg_summary.gz%7Cgzcat%7Chead'?>[22:22:06] <iyp> Tried it with both[22:22:30] <iyp> I used gunzip instead of gzcat though[22:22:57] <mamash> right[22:22:58] <iyp> Just did a knee jerk reboot, but I'll try gzcat when I'm back up[22:23:59] <mamash> oh you said same thing happening with a stock zone and the joyent repo?[22:24:02] <mamash> that's odd[22:24:12] <mamash> something messing with the http protocol?[22:24:47] <iyp> wouldn't something like that have caused problems with wget and curl?[22:26:01] <iyp> Err, so the reboot fixed it.[22:26:05] <iyp> I don't like that one bit[22:26:29] <mamash> i don't either, then again, i've never seen it and been around this stuff... a lot :)[22:27:15] <iyp> Well…I guess that makes me feel…better[22:27:20] <iyp> lol[22:28:17] <iyp> mamash The tip on pkg_summary.gz was a big help though. Thank you[22:30:49] <iyp> err so now it works for the joyent default repo, but not the one on my local network[22:31:29] <iyp> even though I can still curl pkg_summary.gz from the address in the error.[22:32:51] <xmerlin> mamash, why there is a percona image but no percona package?[22:39:15] *** enmand has joined #smartos[22:43:51] *** montyz0 has joined #smartos[22:46:51] *** montyz0 has quit IRC[22:47:02] *** Babbelaar has joined #smartos[22:47:08] <Babbelaar> hello everyone, and good day[22:47:36] <Babbelaar> I am trying to find some stuff in the documentation regarding adding new disks to the global zone and can't seem to find anything[22:47:40] <Babbelaar> anyone have any hints?[22:47:42] *** mamash has left #smartos[22:48:06] <iyp> man zfs[22:48:14] <Babbelaar> woooo :)[22:48:56] <jamesd> Babbelaar, add disk using steps approiate for your hardware.... devfsadm to have it look for new disks... iostat -En to see if disk exists.... add new disks to a new pool or expand your existing zone pool adding a new vdev or more.[22:49:53] <Babbelaar> thank you both very much[22:50:20] <Babbelaar> totally didn't even think of looking at the zfs man... I know its ZFS, just completely went past that obvious point :)[22:50:24] <Babbelaar> thank you both![22:50:27] <Babbelaar> RTFM[22:50:28] <Babbelaar> :)[22:51:12] <jamesd> and the zpool manaual is probably more necessary here[22:51:13] <Babbelaar> quick question, can ZFS handle hot-plugging disks in?[22:51:36] <iyp> jamesd makes a good point, you've gotta know where your disks are first. The format command might be of some help too[22:51:41] <jamesd> Babbelaar, yes if the hardware does.. if your controller doesn't handle it, you will blow up your controller when you do[22:52:04] <Babbelaar> controller can handle it[22:52:17] <Babbelaar> I'll *make* the controller handle it[22:52:43] <Babbelaar> thanks guys[22:52:44] <Babbelaar> later[22:52:51] *** Babbelaar has quit IRC[22:52:53] <jamesd> Babbelaar, smartos kernel is based on solaris... it would be no fun not handling hot plugging disks on a box with 1000 disks attached.... a john time for another outage... why disk replacment, but we just did that an hour ago.....[23:02:06] <jesse_> you'd just install 1500 disks, and forklift-upgrade it when you are down closer to 1000?=)[23:18:04] *** mamash has joined #smartos[23:18:39] *** mamash has left #smartos[23:27:46] <masked> pkgin upgrade -> Segmentation Fault (core dumped)[23:28:03] <masked> on one singular zone[23:28:09] <masked> other zones are okay[23:28:16] <masked> i even reinstalled and upgraded pkgin[23:28:19] <masked> still doing it