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[00:02:09] <Aram> hmm, I did some more debugging and I could step through consconfig_dacf`* until I got back to main and then the machine shut down completely (not only CPU halt).
[00:05:13] <Aram> btw, I entered this case: http://src.illumos.org/source/xref/illumos-gate/usr/src/uts/common/io/consconfig_dacf.c#1370 is that normal, I don't have a serial keyboard, but perhaps that means something else.
[00:05:29] <Aram> or maybe the debugger itself implements a keyboard.
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[00:07:53] <chriss-> it decided its prompt is now a different bcom mac addr, still no active nics after boot
[00:07:56] <chriss-> good times
[00:07:58] <chriss-> time to go home
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[00:25:02] <Aram> rmustacc: I'll try an older smartos from may, as I understand it, that's before the new acpi stuff in smartos that hasn't been integrated in illumos yet.
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[00:47:08] <richlowe> Aram: did you step step step step step <gone>, or did you continue at some point?
[00:47:11] <richlowe> or step over?
[00:47:21] <Aram> richlowe: only step
[00:47:34] <richlowe> promising, as far as isolation
[00:49:50] <Aram> hmm, smartos from april hangs in the same place
[00:55:19] * jeffpc is having some perf issues / stability issues on a 2 socket AMD box :(
[01:07:45] <konobi> Aram: did you try modifying the boot_archive to include the mouse8042 driver?
[01:08:04] <Aram> sorry, not yet.
[01:08:13] <Aram> tomorrow, maybe, it's 1:08AM here.
[01:08:35] <konobi> heh, fair enough
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[01:10:11] <rmustacc> jeffpc: What's your trouble?
[01:10:26] <jeffpc> rmustacc: sometimes, the system locks up during boot
[01:10:28] <konobi> oh... i have a machine at home that may exhibit this
[01:10:33] <jeffpc> (after the SunOS banner)
[01:10:52] <jeffpc> at other times, it boots, but vmadm create/delete take several minutes to complete
[01:11:21] <rmustacc> Well, if locks up, nmi it.
[01:11:36] <rmustacc> As for the vmadm create/delete, you'll have to see where the time is being spent.
[01:11:48] <jeffpc> I did run it through truss
[01:11:54] <rmustacc> I would probably pstack it or something like that.
[01:11:56] <jeffpc> it seems to be stuck no a devfsadm door call
[01:12:06] <rmustacc> On devfsadm/
[01:12:08] <rmustacc> Hmm.
[01:12:24] <jeffpc> well, devfsadmd or whatever the service is
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[01:15:48] <jeffpc> rmustacc: ptree shows: http://pastie.org/5496500
[01:16:18] <jeffpc> pid 3237 is stuck on /etc/dev/.devfsadm_synch_door
[01:16:32] <jeffpc> so, to be correct, it's zoneadmd that's stuck
[01:16:55] <rmustacc> So if it's stuck on the door, pstack away.
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[01:19:40] <jeffpc> http://pastie.org/5496521
[01:19:51] <jeffpc> (had to do it again since the first one timed out)
[01:20:24] <rmustacc> the zoneadmd isn't the interesting one, what it's calling is the interesting one.
[01:21:07] <jeffpc> the zoneadm (not zoneadmd)?
[01:22:50] <rmustacc> No, devfsadmd.
[01:22:54] <rmustacc> The place it's making the door call.
[01:25:07] <jeffpc> http://old.pastie.org/5496541
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[01:41:53] <jeffpc> http://old.pastie.org/pastes/5496608/text
[01:42:09] <jeffpc> looks like a thread sits on a semaphore for way too long
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[01:56:21] <jeffpc> hrm
[01:56:26] <jeffpc> ioctl that took 55 seconds
[01:59:02] <rmustacc> That's suspicious.
[01:59:04] <rmustacc> What icotl?
[01:59:18] <jeffpc> yep, working on it
[01:59:41] <richlowe> !
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[02:04:11] <jeffpc> http://pastie.org/5496669
[02:06:58] <jeffpc> hrm...
[02:07:08] <jeffpc> DIIOC | DINFOLODRV
[02:07:32] <jeffpc> on /devices/pseudo/devinfo@0:devinfo, AFAICT
[02:08:12] <jeffpc> http://src.illumos.org/source/xref/illumos-gate/usr/src/lib/libdevinfo/devinfo.c#108
[02:08:51] <richlowe> jeffpc: fbt entry/return below devi_tree_walk , with timestamps, maybe?
[02:09:05] <richlowe> (flamegraph!)
[02:10:04] <jeffpc> richlowe: devi_tree_walk is in userspace...
[02:10:20] <jeffpc> I suppose that's still doable
[02:12:37] <richlowe> Right, I know it is, but I also don't see anything under the ioctl you mention that immediately stands out as being potentially slow
[02:12:55] <richlowe> flamegraph should throw 55 seconds(!) of suck really clearly though, compared to testing guesses one by one.
[02:13:33] <richlowe> much easier (and broader) to go "fbt:::entry,fbt:::return / self->trace /" with trace set under devi_tree_walk, than to screw around matching the ioctl
[02:13:34] <jeffpc> I've never made one...
[02:13:37] <jeffpc> yeah
[02:13:43] <jeffpc> that's what I'm doing now
[02:13:53] <richlowe> and I've not used the flamegraph stuff either (sorry brendan!)
[02:13:58] <richlowe> but I recall it being easy and well described?
[02:14:08] <konobi> canon... sun... !!!
[02:14:21] <jeffpc> in principle, yes
[02:15:38] <jeffpc> ok...
[02:16:01] <jeffpc> maybe tracing every function wasn't the best idea
[02:16:10] <jeffpc> turns out lots of things happen
[02:16:11] <richlowe> underneath there? It's not a bad idea
[02:16:20] <richlowe> ideally, brendans magic should then bring clarity
[02:17:04] <richlowe> ... presuming it can process input other than ustack() etc.
[02:17:12] <richlowe> otherwise you'll have to reword the script a bit to pacify it
[02:17:38] <richlowe> profile-997 /self->trace/ { stack(); } should still be valid over that much random dragging, I think?
[02:20:13] <rmustacc> Yeah. It should.
[02:20:21] <rmustacc> Or you could use /pid or tid/
[02:20:56] <richlowe> brendang: it'd be nice to be able to format entry/return probes + timestamps into flamegraphs, though.
[02:20:59] <richlowe> unless my brain has failed
[02:26:58] <konobi> huh... gmake -j128 ?
[02:27:29] <richlowe> konobi: someone was optimistic
[02:27:58] <richlowe> that said, if your build machine isn't FSS/cpu-capped into sanity, you've lost anyway
[02:29:48] <konobi> richlowe: this is in a smartos zone building smartos
[02:30:06] <konobi> specifically the "bootstrap" target
[02:31:11] <jeffpc> dtrace -x stackframes=100 -n 'profile-997 /pid==62/ { @[stack()] = count(); } tick-200s { exit(0); }' -o out.kern_stacks
[02:31:26] <jeffpc> that produced only 26 stacks
[02:32:18] <jeffpc> http://pastie.org/5496744
[02:39:18] <jeffpc> hrm
[02:39:24] <rmustacc> konobi, richlowe: That's in the illumos-extra Makefifile
[02:39:28] <jeffpc> I just tried to make a flame graph
[02:39:37] <konobi> src/Maefile.defs, yeah
[02:45:59] <konobi> deirdres: it's hard to come up with a decent unix tat i think
[02:47:04] <deirdres> dunno, has it been tried?
[02:47:19] <richlowe> I hope not
[02:47:23] <richlowe> but probably
[02:47:41] <konobi> you've seen e^ipi's leg tat?
[02:47:49] <richlowe> Though, if you wanted to commemerate bad decisions that last 40 years, really, is there a _better_ way?
[02:48:09] <konobi> richlowe: could be worse... could be a "Zune" tat
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[02:58:50] <jeffpc> bah
[02:58:58] <jeffpc> I don't see anything outright bad
[03:02:46] <jeffpc> http://31bits.net/download/per-cpu-profile-997.tar.bz2
[03:06:48] <konobi> richlowe: right now i'm trying to think of a good theme for a cover-up
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[09:01:16] <MerlinDMC> morning
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[12:07:42] <izaki> Is there a pf implementation for Smartos? I am about to conclude there isn't but it won't hurt to ask...
[12:08:46] <MerlinDMC> ipf?
[12:09:18] <MerlinDMC> and the new (currently not documented) fwadm?
[12:10:55] <izaki> MerlinDMC: I just found that and it made me feel like a n00b
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[12:11:03] <MerlinDMC> hm
[12:11:03] <izaki> ;) Thanks!
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[12:11:32] <MerlinDMC> np? ;)
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[12:12:56] <Aram> aren't ipf and pf different?
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[12:16:07] <arekinath> ipf and pf are considerably different. :)
[12:19:03] <Licenser> at least a 33% difference
[12:19:14] <Licenser> perhaps 50% depending on the POV
[12:20:17] <izaki> pf and ipf look substantially different
[12:20:37] <arekinath> but they are capable of similar things, yes
[12:20:42] <arekinath> if you ignore pfsync. ;)
[12:20:49] <arekinath> and pflow
[12:20:52] <arekinath> and various other neat things
[12:21:34] <arekinath> and don't mind writing 4x the config lines in a much less clear format to get the same job done *
[12:21:44] <arekinath> * numbers may be made up
[12:22:09] <Licenser> arekinath you don't like ipf I take it :P
[12:22:47] <izaki> I only care about getting the job done... PF itself is senseless enough
[12:23:37] <arekinath> Licenser: it's not that I don't like ipf, it's just that pf is better. :P
[12:23:52] <Licenser> heh
[12:25:45] <arekinath> izaki: I said that too, before I had to make my firewall do more than a few things
[12:26:01] <arekinath> and apply to more than just one network of hosts
[12:28:28] <arekinath> then the fact that pf is a simplified and clearer version of ipf starts to really make a difference to how nervous you are about hitting reload after editing rules
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[15:34:58] <aksyn> greetings earthlings
[15:36:18] <norman> there is just one place with internet outside of the earth, and that is the ISS. are you on the ISS? :-)
[15:36:32] <aksyn> norman: i'm not allowed to talk about such things*cch*
[15:36:59] <aksyn> so i've just built a testbed boxen to run SmartOS on, and having trouble googling my way to converting/getting it to make the initial pool as a raid-z volume.. anyone have some wisdom to offer me?
[15:39:02] <aksyn> i have 3 drives hooked up, c1t[0-2]d0.. but it's only taken the first one into the pool (as that was all I had on initial boot)
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[15:42:14] <aksyn> I can add the 2 remaining to a new raidz pool, that's easy enough.. but I want to include the first disk too.. possible?
[15:43:03] <calmh> aksyn: i think you will need to "reinstall" with all disks present
[15:43:17] <aksyn> calmh: will it offer me raidz as an option at that point, or is that the default?
[15:44:03] <calmh> aksyn: it should be the default if you tell it to use all three disks in the initial setup
[15:44:20] <aksyn> calmh: ahh, easy :) thanks for the pointer
[15:44:49] <aksyn> calmh: how can i nuke the existing zones pool from the first disk?
[15:44:56] <calmh> you might need to boot with destroy_zpools=true to get rid of the existing pol
[15:45:05] <aksyn> k
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[15:51:59] <aksyn> raidz1 10.9T 6.01G 10.9T -
[15:52:03] <aksyn> wooo :) thanks calmh
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[19:42:39] <aksyn> hi guys, is the e1000g driver generally considered stable? I have an odd thing happening on an Intel CT Desktop PCI-E NIC.. after some use, all connectivity stops, and netstat -i starts showing crazy numbers of input and output packets and errors… the really strange thing is they decrement!!
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[19:52:22] <Triskelios> aksyn: that seems unusual. anything in dmesg about the interface?
[19:52:36] <aksyn> bizarrely.. no, nothing!
[19:52:59] <aksyn> unplugging the LAN cable and back in doesn't reanimate it
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[19:53:33] <MerlinDMC> you have no networking on the GZ? ... but maybe zones are running fine on that host?
[19:53:55] <aksyn> merlin: correct, affects GZ and all VMs (2x ubuntu) as well
[19:54:45] <aksyn> any dtrace scripts out there to aid in triage?
[19:54:51] <MerlinDMC> k ... my GZ died network side but running zones wee unaffected ... i also could connect from a zone to the GZ ... so that seems to be smth different ;)
[19:55:04] <aksyn> merlin: but equally worrying :)
[19:55:20] <MerlinDMC> hmm ... maybe :)
[19:56:25] <aksyn> i'll keep a netstat -i rolling and reproduce it.. the numbers were so large it looked like the counters had overflowed
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