November 1, 2012 
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November 1, 2012 [00:08:48] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[00:12:38] *** szaydel has quit IRC[00:18:00] *** andoriyu1 has joined #smartos[00:18:37] *** pstollz has joined #smartos[00:18:58] *** tardisx` has joined #smartos[00:19:01] *** pstollz is now known as pstoll[00:19:22] *** andoriyu has quit IRC[00:19:24] *** tardisx has quit IRC[00:19:26] *** pstoll|away has quit IRC[00:21:08] *** FatDarrel has quit IRC[00:34:34] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[00:34:36] *** tonyarkles_ has joined #smartos[00:42:33] *** nikolam has quit IRC[00:54:09] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[00:58:13] *** densone has quit IRC[01:06:28] *** densone has joined #smartos[01:19:52] *** densone has quit IRC[01:20:13] *** wdent has quit IRC[01:22:35] *** densone has joined #smartos[01:24:42] *** wdent has joined #smartos[01:34:41] <wolstena> anyone running elasticsearch in a zone?[01:43:15] *** joshie_ has quit IRC[01:43:40] *** joshie has joined #smartos[01:46:38] *** MerlinDMC has quit IRC[01:47:32] *** MerlinDMC has joined #smartos[02:02:03] *** ahaydock has quit IRC[02:07:36] *** banjiewen_ has quit IRC[02:13:18] *** elijah-mbp has joined #smartos[02:15:38] *** andoriyu has joined #smartos[02:16:37] *** andoriyu1 has quit IRC[02:18:29] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[02:19:24] *** ryancnelson has quit IRC[02:35:27] *** wdent has joined #smartos[02:38:42] *** wdent has quit IRC[02:39:00] <wolstena> i'm new to smartos and zones. i've setup a box with 32GB of RAM and one zone. are there any memory setting. i'm having difficulties getting a java app to run.[02:39:42] <konobi> wolstena: depends on how you created the zone[02:42:45] <wolstena> i just created it with basic settings for the nic. i didn't see any options for ram.[02:44:30] <konobi> wolstena: can you gist/nopaste your json?[02:45:26] <wolstena> sure[02:48:24] *** Licenser has quit IRC[02:49:26] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[02:52:37] *** wdent has joined #smartos[02:53:06] <wolstena> https://gist.github.com/3991132[02:54:24] <konobi> wolstena: there shouldn't be any memory imposition from the zone[03:01:45] <wolstena> i didn't think there was but I couldn't get elasticsearch to run without dropping initial heap size from 256m to 128m (-Xms). And if I try to raise the heap size (-Xmx) above 1g is crashes.[03:07:38] *** szaydel has quit IRC[03:08:18] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[03:11:43] *** densone has quit IRC[03:15:57] <konobi> wolstena: no real experience with java here i'm afraid[03:23:18] *** szaydel has quit IRC[03:23:22] <wolstena> konobo: no problem. i'm just trying to figure out whether it is a zone issue an app issue. i'm just finding it weird that I can't set the heap size higher on a machine with 32GB of memory.[03:23:55] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[03:23:57] <konobi> iirc, there's a few tunables with java you need to increase at the same time[03:24:47] <konobi> Xms, Xmx, Xshm, etc.[03:25:11] <konobi> but that's just based on my experience with tomcat and solr[03:26:15] <konobi> wolstena: is java specifically nessecary?[03:26:39] *** szaydel has quit IRC[03:27:20] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[03:27:51] <superstructor> wolstena, vmadm get uuid | grep max_physical_memory[03:27:59] <wolstena> konobi: it is for elasticsearch. i've tried some of the tuning parameters.[03:28:06] <superstructor> wolstena:, vmadm get uuid | grep max_swap[03:28:32] <konobi> wolstena: sure... but there's more than just the java client[03:29:00] <superstructor> wolstena, vmadm get uuid | grep max_locked_memory[03:29:06] <superstructor> wolstena, vmadm get uuid | grep max_tmpfs[03:29:59] *** marsell has quit IRC[03:30:59] <wolstena> superstructor: "max_physical_memory": 256,[03:31:32] <superstructor> wolstena, e.g.: vmadm update uuid max_physical_memory=8192[03:31:34] <superstructor> for 8g[03:31:48] <superstructor> wolstena, you MUST up the max_swap if you up the max_physical_memory[03:31:49] <wolstena> superstructor: "max_swap": 256[03:33:35] <konobi> oh bah[03:33:49] <konobi> yeah, there is a zone restriction by default...[03:33:50] <superstructor> wolstena, solaris has this thing where it reserves swap on disk "a backing page" for every application page even though its not used[03:34:02] <_jesse> wolstena, are you running 64bit java? giving 32bit java >~1.5G of mem will crash/not work[03:34:22] <konobi> (apologies, i was going on older in-ma-brane knowledge)[03:34:36] <superstructor> wolstena, so if your max_physical_memory is 32gb but your swap is 256mb you'll get weird errors like "unable to fork a process" or "Solaris error 12, not enough space"[03:34:51] <konobi> wolstena: `man vmadm` and check the max_physical_memory section[03:35:17] <superstructor> wolstena, max_physical_memory AND max_swap[03:35:37] <konobi> defaults to 256Mb[03:35:39] <superstructor> wolstena, max_swap must be >= max_physical_memory[03:35:49] <wolstena> _jesse: i thought it may have been a 65bit issue. I added JAVA_OPTS="$JAVA_OPTS -D64" in the config just to be sure.[03:35:55] <superstructor> wolstena, afaik vmadm doesn't enforce this for you[03:36:30] <konobi> tbh, this should probably be a github issue so you don't kick yourself[03:36:34] <konobi> superstructor: ^[03:36:40] <_jesse> wolstena, run 'java -version' to see if it supports 64bit[03:37:22] *** banjiewen_ has joined #smartos[03:37:22] <konobi> _jesse, superstructor: this is a zone memory restriction issue... i just mis-read/mis-remembered[03:37:49] <_jesse> konobi, ok.[03:38:02] <superstructor> konobi: yep its a zone memory restriction issue, but he'll need to up both memory and swap[03:40:42] *** szaydel has quit IRC[03:41:00] <konobi> yup[03:41:19] <konobi> more sensible defaults required[03:43:05] *** joshie has quit IRC[03:43:34] *** joshie has joined #smartos[03:43:51] <wolstena> superstructor: thanks! it's nice how the properties take effect immediately.[03:45:21] <konobi> zones ftw[03:45:29] *** wdent has quit IRC[03:45:33] <konobi> wolstena: sorry to lead you astray there ^_^[03:47:44] <wolstena> konobi: no problem. you don't know how happy i am to get this going.[03:56:05] <wolstena> seems to run great at. "./elasticsearch -f -Xms5120m -Xmx6144m". looking forward to the testing tomorrow.[03:57:56] *** wdent has joined #smartos[04:08:08] <superstructor> wolstena: if your index files are going to be big you might want to check the "quota" attribute on that zone too[04:08:14] <superstructor> wolstena: I think by default its only 10gb[04:10:03] <wolstena> superstructor: will do. they are not that big but they may break 10gb.[04:12:08] <superstructor> wolstena: did you write a SMF manifest for elasticsearch or are you just started it directly from the shell ?[04:12:16] <superstructor> starting*[04:14:30] <wolstena> superstructor: i worked on creating SMF manifest today.[04:20:14] *** joshie has quit IRC[04:20:22] *** tdmackey has quit IRC[04:20:33] *** Tekni has quit IRC[04:20:33] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[04:21:03] *** tonyarkles_ has quit IRC[04:22:08] *** Tekni has joined #smartos[04:22:37] *** joshie has joined #smartos[04:22:59] *** tdmackey has joined #smartos[04:25:00] <wolstena> superstructor: this is what i have so far. still needs testing: https://gist.github.com/3991436[04:27:25] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[04:30:47] <superstructor> wolstena: thanks looks good[04:30:52] *** tdmackey has quit IRC[04:31:42] *** tdmackey has joined #smartos[04:35:04] *** andoriyu1 has joined #smartos[04:35:45] *** andoriyu has quit IRC[04:58:21] *** banjiewen_ has quit IRC[05:07:36] *** sachinsharma has joined #smartos[05:08:03] *** superstructor has quit IRC[05:11:57] *** wdent has quit IRC[05:16:41] *** bradleymeck has joined #smartos[05:40:27] *** wolstena has left #smartos[06:01:07] *** abhishekvasisht has joined #smartos[06:14:28] *** bradleymeck has quit IRC[06:18:37] *** bradleymeck has joined #smartos[06:21:15] *** jdavis1 has quit IRC[06:38:20] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[06:50:58] *** cjones_ has quit IRC[06:54:47] *** deirdres has quit IRC[07:02:23] *** wolfeidau has quit IRC[07:23:28] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[07:23:43] *** densone has joined #smartos[07:31:00] *** marsell has joined #smartos[07:31:18] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[07:39:05] *** abhishekvasisht has quit IRC[07:51:31] *** bradleymeck has quit IRC[07:51:43] *** abhishekvasisht has joined #smartos[07:52:22] *** abhishekvasisht has joined #smartos[08:09:30] *** Licenser has quit IRC[08:10:20] *** andoriyu has joined #smartos[08:11:32] *** andoriyu1 has quit IRC[08:14:28] *** andoriyu1 has joined #smartos[08:14:33] *** andoriyu has quit IRC[08:26:40] *** mikefut has joined #smartos[08:37:14] *** densone has quit IRC[08:39:35] *** cjones_ has joined #smartos[08:40:57] *** cjones__ has joined #smartos[08:40:58] *** cjones_ has quit IRC[08:50:04] *** abhishekvasisht has quit IRC[08:56:33] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[09:01:17] *** abhishekvasisht has joined #smartos[09:01:24] *** abhishekvasisht has quit IRC[09:01:35] *** abhishekvasisht has joined #smartos[09:03:21] *** nikolam has joined #smartos[09:18:39] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[09:37:24] *** bens1 has quit IRC[09:45:18] *** jamesd_ has quit IRC[09:54:44] *** andoriyu1 has quit IRC[10:10:53] *** Sachiru has joined #smartos[10:45:30] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[11:07:19] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[11:47:27] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[12:13:23] *** StaringSkyward has joined #smartos[12:15:14] *** trentster has quit IRC[12:15:45] *** trentster has joined #smartos[12:20:04] *** sachinsharma has quit IRC[12:20:16] *** deirdres has quit IRC[12:24:29] *** abhishekvasisht has quit IRC[12:44:06] *** wdent has joined #smartos[12:44:59] *** wdent has quit IRC[12:45:37] *** wdent has joined #smartos[12:52:31] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[13:07:15] *** szaydel has quit IRC[13:21:10] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[13:22:07] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[13:22:19] *** szaydel has quit IRC[13:22:59] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[13:32:08] *** knweiss has joined #smartos[13:36:23] *** knweiss has quit IRC[13:40:19] *** asachs_ has joined #smartos[13:41:37] <asachs_> Hi all ![13:42:10] <asachs_> i need some ideas on what to document and report on for a SmartOS host that is not seeing network or disks ?[14:01:03] <MerlinDMC> asachs_, is the hardware compatible with illumos?[14:01:52] <asachs_> MerlinDMC: which distro can i test with ? OI usb media is a bit hit and miss[14:02:12] <MerlinDMC> http://illumos.org/hcl/[14:02:32] <asachs_> MerlinDMC: thx[14:05:48] <asachs_> MerlinDMC: that would be a no :) drat. thanks anyhow.[14:06:16] <MerlinDMC> what hardware are you trying to run that on?[14:11:01] <asachs_> MerlinDMC: ASRock fatality Pro board, i5 and 32 gig of RAM. Its an Intel Z77 chipset, currently i don't have network (BCM57781) or and of my disks.[14:12:19] <MerlinDMC> asachs_, tried to configure the sata controller to ahci?[14:12:31] <Sachiru> @asachs: Check kernel version.[14:12:44] <Sachiru> I have an ASRock board with z77 chipset as well.[14:12:55] <Sachiru> For some reason, it defaults to booting the 32-bit kernel for me.[14:13:14] <asachs_> Sachiru: joyent_20121018[14:13:23] <MerlinDMC> and maybe you should force the bge driver for the nic and see if it works ... maybe only a missing pciid[14:13:34] <asachs_> MerlinDMC: i have toggled almost everything in the BIOS[14:13:34] <Sachiru> No, I mean, kernel version, if it's 32 or 64 bit.[14:13:47] <Sachiru> @Merlin: The controller for that is usually rge[14:13:51] <Sachiru> Also, check RAM.[14:14:09] <asachs_> Sachiru: i86pc i386 (from uname)[14:14:10] <MerlinDMC> Sachiru, there should be no 32bit smartos kernel ... if i'm korrect[14:14:28] <Sachiru> Same issue occured with me before (no disks detected for 32-bit kernel, then when booting to 64-bit kernel, disks either aren't detected or intermittently fail)[14:14:35] <Sachiru> The culprit? Bad RAM.[14:14:54] <Sachiru> @asachs: Doesn't it show anything like 64?[14:15:15] <asachs_> Sachiru: Nope unless there is another uname incantation i am missing[14:15:25][14:15:58] <Sachiru> What's the output for that?[14:15:59] <asachs_> Sachiru: 64-bit amd64 kernel modules[14:16:11] <Sachiru> Okay, so that's the 64-bit kernel.[14:16:32] <Sachiru> In BIOS, do you see an intel hdd controller and the asrock hdd controller?[14:16:38] *** ahaydock has joined #smartos[14:16:50] <Sachiru> If so, your controller is the ASM1062, which is in the kernel by default.[14:17:14] <asachs_> Sachiru: it is the ASM1062[14:17:29] <Sachiru> I would strongly recommend doing a memory check via memtest86, since I've experienced the exact same symptoms as you did a while before.[14:17:43] <asachs_> Sachiru: thanks will do that immediately ![14:17:53] <Sachiru> I thought it was a driver issue as well. Turns out illumos consistently mapped disk drivers to the defective region of memory.[14:22:37] *** arx has joined #smartos[14:23:49] *** matticulous has joined #smartos[14:34:15] <arx> VM "ram" value: 8192 is greater than available memory: 4465[14:34:27] <arx> http://pastie.org/5166612[14:37:19] *** wdent has quit IRC[14:43:42] *** cjones__ has quit IRC[14:43:56] *** cjones_ has joined #smartos[14:43:58] *** matticulous has quit IRC[14:49:32] *** wdent has joined #smartos[14:53:37] *** CarlosC has joined #smartos[15:05:18] *** matticulous has joined #smartos[15:05:33] *** norman has quit IRC[15:05:54] *** wdent has quit IRC[15:07:17] <arx> how I do limit zfs arc on smartos?[15:10:02] *** neophenix has joined #smartos[15:10:18] <Alasdairrr> why would you want to?[15:10:28] <MerlinDMC> that'S limited to 80% of you ram i think ... and should be released as soon as you need more ram for other stuff[15:13:45] <arx> I can't create a 8GB VM on a clean 64GB machine after bonnie++[15:14:28] <arx> http://pastie.org/5166612[15:14:54] <arx> another option. how I do flush the cache?[15:15:27] *** norman has joined #smartos[15:22:22] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[15:24:46] <arx> that is my case https://www.illumos.org/issues/1974[15:35:31] *** Sachiru has quit IRC[15:36:44] *** szaydel has quit IRC[15:37:21] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[15:39:29] *** dap has joined #smartos[15:41:33] *** pstoll is now known as pstoll|away[15:47:05] *** StaringSkyward has quit IRC[15:49:48] *** dap has quit IRC[15:52:50] *** alucardX has joined #smartos[15:53:01] <alucardX> hi[15:54:06] *** wdent has joined #smartos[16:01:08] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[16:05:31] *** bradleymeck has joined #smartos[16:06:51] *** jdavis1 has joined #smartos[16:07:02] *** pstoll|away is now known as pstoll[16:07:31] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[16:14:25] *** texarcana has joined #smartos[16:16:20] *** Licenser has quit IRC[16:31:57] *** szaydel has quit IRC[16:32:33] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[16:34:42] *** jdefelice has joined #smartos[16:40:56] *** deirdres has quit IRC[16:42:06] *** ira has joined #smartos[16:44:37] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[16:55:25] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[16:55:39] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[16:58:50] *** asachs_ has quit IRC[17:20:26] *** szaydel has quit IRC[17:20:33] *** densone has joined #smartos[17:21:12] *** matticulous has quit IRC[17:23:51] *** matticulous has joined #smartos[17:25:37] *** matticulous has quit IRC[17:26:18] *** mikefut has quit IRC[17:26:42] *** mikefut has joined #smartos[17:30:08] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[17:36:43] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[17:38:47] *** matticulous has joined #smartos[17:40:13] *** sachinsharma has joined #smartos[17:42:25] *** ryancnelson has quit IRC[17:43:55] *** FatDarrel has joined #smartos[17:44:06] *** alfism has joined #smartos[17:45:21] *** bradleymeck has quit IRC[17:46:34] *** asachs_ has joined #smartos[17:51:49] *** matticulous has quit IRC[17:55:40] *** user01 has joined #smartos[17:56:05] *** matticulous has joined #smartos[17:58:04] *** jdavis1 has quit IRC[17:59:49] *** andoriyu has joined #smartos[17:59:55] *** densone has quit IRC[18:00:15] <rmustacc> Welcome to SmartOS office hours.[18:01:09] <nshalman> LeftWing needs to do something crazy...[18:05:03] <aszeszo> hello[18:06:46] *** andoriyu has quit IRC[18:06:58] *** andoriyu has joined #smartos[18:14:20] *** fsteinelX has joined #smartos[18:14:35] <aszeszo> i have few memory uncapped zones running on smartos host: http://91.194.74.117/~aszeszo/skitched-20121101-181245.png[18:14:52] <aszeszo> the host itself has got 48GB of ram[18:15:13] <aszeszo> how do i tell how much physical memory is used by the individual zones?[18:15:51] <aszeszo> or alternatively, what is the amount of memory that will be returned to the free pool after shutting particular zone down[18:16:01] <CarlosC> are the other illumos hackathon efforts going to be announced/integrated into gate soon? only know of the DTrace, ZFS dataset/snapshot quota, and pfile postmortem[18:16:22] <CarlosC> aszeszo: from the gz or uz?[18:17:47] <rmustacc> aszeszo: It's a bit hard to answer.[18:17:48] <aszeszo> CarlosC: i can run the commands in both contexts[18:17:57] <CarlosC> from a uz, if you have the sm-tools installed, sm-summary along with sm-meminfo[18:18:12] <rmustacc> The problem is that some of the memory you have is shared, some of it isn't.[18:18:19] <aszeszo> i understand[18:19:28] <aszeszo> one of the postgres zones has got ~230 threads using the same shared 1GB segment[18:21:12] <rmustacc> Oh, actually Jerry added some kstats.[18:22:11] <rmustacc> aszeszo: In your zone look at kstat -m memory[18:23:18] <CarlosC> rmustacc: how recent where those additions?[18:23:42] <aszeszo> rmustacc: output is empty[18:23:49] <rmustacc> Oh sorry, -m memory_cap[18:25:14] <rmustacc> CarlosC: Give me a bit to check.[18:25:19] <CarlosC> aszeszo: you can also do that from the gz to list all zones[18:25:22] *** mikefut has quit IRC[18:25:45] <CarlosC> rmustacc: don't worry about it...[18:25:53] <aszeszo> http://paste.ec/?e7aabc8154a35ae3#jKIuyhl0TuqdlSaVsMYoRhvsI909ONs6GMgvJUcuMP8=[18:27:05] <aszeszo> rmustacc: which value should i be looking at? :)[18:29:14] <matticulous> question on disk controllers: in one of his presentations, bcantrill mentioned a large number of ECC errors on DRAM of a Dell PERC. Since we run Dell servers, that got my attention. is there a recommended disk controller for SmartOS or ZFS in general?[18:29:51] <rmustacc> We saw them on R700s. Basically recommended raid controllers are those that don't do hardware raid but are just a jbod mode.[18:30:00] <rmustacc> Unfortuantely if you're a dell shop, there aren't many options.[18:30:18] <rmustacc> sorry, I think that is the perc 700.[18:30:32] <rmustacc> but I don't keep those numbers straight since they overlap with their R series boxes.[18:30:40] <matticulous> so if I was buying new dell gear, i would be best off ordering something and immediately replacing?[18:31:04] <rmustacc> aszeszo: Well, the rss and swap ones I imagine is what you care about.[18:31:06] <aszeszo> CarlosC: what are sm-tools?[18:31:21] <rmustacc> matticulous: That's a hard question to answer.[18:31:31] <rmustacc> Unfortunately I doubt you are better off replacing it due to warranty.[18:32:06] <matticulous> yeah, so the new ones (R720) have options for PERC H310, H710 and H710P[18:33:09] <CarlosC> sm-tools is a package in pkgsrc that allows you to get/set a variety of things inside a smartmachine like looking at cpuinfo, meminfo, adding/removing database, database users, etc...[18:33:40] <rmustacc> We have some support for the H710.[18:34:11] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[18:34:11] <rmustacc> And at least we have an open source driver, but we have no specs, so if stuff goes wrong, it's kind of on Dell/LSI to help here which is not a promissing thing per se.[18:34:38] *** ryancnelson1 has joined #smartos[18:34:58] <aszeszo> rmustacc: is it correct to assume that around 4786MB of physical memory will be freed up after shutting the zone down?[18:35:18] <rmustacc> I don't really know, sorry.[18:35:35] <matticulous> so if there wasn't a strong allegiance to dell, is there an orderable config of some sort for max compat? (sorry, i know this is a crummy question)[18:36:17] <rmustacc> Yeah there are definitely parts we can recommend that are simpler / have less firmware to screw you over.[18:36:18] <matticulous> or if there was flexibility on warranty...[18:36:50] <CarlosC> fujitsu is kind good on compat parts with warranty[18:37:28] <rmustacc> Since LSI is the only vendor in town for SAS these days, we usually look at something in their IT firmware mode.[18:37:34] <CarlosC> when we get some more $$, will prob. use fujitsu to build out the rest of our labs[18:38:04] <aszeszo> rmustacc: ok, thanks[18:38:57] <rmustacc> So some parts like that are the 2308.[18:39:21] *** szaydel has quit IRC[18:39:43] *** sachinsharma has quit IRC[18:39:59] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[18:41:57] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[18:43:40] <rmustacc> CarlosC: That was added back a long time ago.[18:43:44] <rmustacc> So you have it in your SDC stuff.[18:44:28] <matticulous> is there an out of the box type config that is recommended? or is that firmly in the camp of joyent sdc? in other words, if i said "i want to run smartos or sdc in a prod config, what can i go buy as a complete package"?[18:44:33] <CarlosC> yes...[18:44:48] *** fsteinelX is now known as fstenel[18:44:54] *** fstenel is now known as fsteinel[18:45:06] <CarlosC> when you mentioned the memory module in kstats I thought it was another set of kstats from memory_cap[18:46:26] *** bradleymeck has joined #smartos[18:46:39] *** arx has quit IRC[18:49:51] *** alfism has quit IRC[18:52:21] *** jdavis1 has joined #smartos[18:57:26] *** wolstena has joined #smartos[19:02:35] *** wramtun has quit IRC[19:10:45] *** szaydel has quit IRC[19:12:22] *** tonyarkles has joined #smartos[19:16:54] *** codingstream has joined #smartos[19:25:05] *** jwk404 has quit IRC[19:27:38] *** jwk404 has joined #smartos[19:39:31] *** knweiss has joined #smartos[19:40:30] *** _dumfries has quit IRC[19:41:43] *** knweiss has quit IRC[19:42:15] *** _dumfries has joined #smartos[19:43:20] *** user01 has quit IRC[19:46:08] *** alucardX has quit IRC[19:47:38] *** FatDarrel has quit IRC[19:48:07] *** wdent has quit IRC[19:54:22] *** bradleymeck has quit IRC[20:00:17] *** bradleymeck has joined #smartos[20:11:59] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[20:12:47] *** wdent has joined #smartos[20:22:42] *** tonyarkles has quit IRC[20:22:54] *** densone has joined #smartos[20:39:08] *** matticulous has quit IRC[20:48:31] *** EvilJordan has joined #smartos[20:50:56] *** wdent has quit IRC[20:53:07] *** matticulous has joined #smartos[20:58:40] *** bens1 has quit IRC[20:59:59] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[21:01:09] *** bradleymeck has quit IRC[21:02:14] *** andoriyu has quit IRC[21:02:38] *** ryancnelson1 has quit IRC[21:04:00] *** pstoll is now known as pstoll|away[21:10:36] *** bradleymeck has joined #smartos[21:13:40] *** blob has joined #smartos[21:14:19] <EvilJordan> Does anyone here use nano as their editor of choice?[21:15:50] *** jdavis1 has quit IRC[21:16:00] *** jdavis1 has joined #smartos[21:17:56] <bradleymeck> EvilJordan: for cases when it is all that is installed sure (lol at embedded devices)[21:19:53] <MerlinDMC> EvilJordan, if it's installed by default ... if not then smth else ... as long as it's not emacs for simple edits[21:20:13] <rmustacc> vi since it's the SUS default.[21:21:22] <EvilJordan> Cool... I've been using it for years as it's come with the OS, but my recent setup, running SunOS 5.11 (on Joyent), I can't get the editor to fill up the terminal window. It just stays at the same size and makes using it pretty much impossible. Any ideas?[21:22:28] <rmustacc> For nano?[21:22:41] <EvilJordan> rmustacc: yeah[21:22:51] <rmustacc> Nope, sorry, no ideas really.[21:23:02] <EvilJordan> ha, ok[21:23:06] <EvilJordan> worth a shot asking[21:23:10] <rmustacc> I haven't probably touched nano in six or seven years.[21:23:28] <rmustacc> Sounds like it's not getting sigwhinch correctly, which feels odd.[21:23:36] <rmustacc> What is your TERM set to?[21:23:43] <EvilJordan> xterm[21:23:48] <rmustacc> Hmm.[21:24:05] <rmustacc> I assume nano does resize elsewhere?[21:24:05] <EvilJordan> it's seriously been baffling me for weeks[21:24:20] <EvilJordan> i think this is my frist time encountering it on "smartOS"[21:24:39] <EvilJordan> but in, say, BSD or Darwin, it's fine[21:24:50] <jelmd> tput cols ; tput lines ?[21:25:15] <rmustacc> Mostly just a question to make sure nano actually supported it.[21:25:32] <rmustacc> I don't think I'd ever run it at something that wasn't a vga text-mode console.[21:25:55] <LeftWing> You should just use ed(1) -- the POSIX text editor![21:26:02] * bradleymeck shudders[21:26:30] <MerlinDMC> rmustacc, just to add some odd behaviour ... if I use arrow keys in vim on the GZ (in insert mode) it inserts characters (A,B,C,D) and lines instead of just moving the cursor ;)[21:26:39] <EvilJordan> ooo, tput says it's running 80x24, which is definitely not the case for my window[21:26:58] <jelmd> resize ?[21:27:09] <Triskelios> EvilJordan: is this a zone console or something?[21:27:11] <rmustacc> MerlinDMC: touch a .vimrc[21:27:30] *** gkyildirim has joined #smartos[21:27:31] <rmustacc> If there is none, it defaults to vi compatability mode.[21:27:48] <EvilJordan> Triskelios: I'm not sure what that means. I'm running PuTTY but this also happens in OS X's Terminal[21:27:59] <Triskelios> I don't think zone consoles can be resized[21:28:23] <MerlinDMC> rmustacc, god that saves my ESC key ... i was switching out of insert mode whenever there was the need to move the cursor[21:28:30] <Triskelios> EvilJordan: this is a regular ssh login?[21:28:43] <EvilJordan> Triskelios: yes[21:29:20] <MerlinDMC> rmustacc, can we add an empty /root/.vimrc to the platform ... that would not need that much space ^^[21:29:50] <rmustacc> We ended up not going down that path due to bike shedding.[21:30:16] <rmustacc> It would have almost happened, but then people got picky about what was there or not.[21:30:19] <EvilJordan> perhaps it's related, but man is also funky. takes up the full column width of the window, but only about half the rows. after using it a few times, displays nothing[21:30:31] <rmustacc> Which man are you using[21:30:32] <rmustacc> *?[21:30:56] <MerlinDMC> k ... i'll just take a note for me to add that if smth weird happens[21:31:06] <EvilJordan> version? 1.6e[21:31:18] <rmustacc> Sorry, I meant `which man`[21:31:38] <EvilJordan> opt/local/bin/man[21:33:27] <jelmd> what says: printf '\033[19t' ?[21:34:26] <EvilJordan> jelmd: if that was directed to me, nothing[21:34:54] <jelmd> hmm, strange[21:35:58] *** chrisBF has joined #smartos[21:38:59] *** gkyildirim has quit IRC[21:40:47] *** chrisBF has left #smartos[21:43:07] *** mikefut has joined #smartos[21:43:31] *** FatDarrel has joined #smartos[21:43:35] *** matticulous has quit IRC[21:53:38] *** ryancnelson has left #smartos[21:55:49] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[22:01:24] *** wdent has joined #smartos[22:02:14] *** CarlosC has quit IRC[22:06:19] *** wdent has quit IRC[22:11:41] *** fsteinel has quit IRC[22:12:37] *** bradleymeck has quit IRC[22:26:28] *** damaxus is now known as damacus[22:48:54] *** FatDarrel has quit IRC[23:03:53] *** wolstena has quit IRC[23:04:23] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[23:06:16] *** bradleymeck has joined #smartos[23:10:54] *** wolstena has joined #smartos[23:11:13] *** neophenix has quit IRC[23:12:43] *** bens1 has quit IRC[23:29:13] *** EvilJordan has quit IRC[23:31:26] *** szaydel has quit IRC[23:32:06] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[23:37:18] *** szaydel has quit IRC[23:37:59] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[23:50:35] *** densone has quit IRC[23:51:18] *** ira has quit IRC[23:57:32] *** FatDarrel has joined #smartos