August 1, 2012 
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and maybe with 10.8? ;)[11:35:38] <trentster> yup[11:35:56] <trentster> I battled to get it working, but finally did[11:36:16] <MerlinDMC> doesn't 10.8 work against thirt party afp implementations ... was reading smth like that[11:36:20] <trentster> I am using openindiana 151a5 and netatalk 3 with napp-it[11:36:36] <MerlinDMC> yeah .. .saw that in some forum[11:37:07] <trentster> naah works like a dream I can saturate an gig eth link from my mac mini, I have tested it with: snow leapard, Lion, and mountain lion.[11:37:34] <trentster> the instructions on how I did it are in the forum, you want me to dig them out?[11:38:38] <trentster> I am not only using it for tiem machine, but also replaced cifs with afp for mac network share stuff, it blows cifs out the water[11:38:41] *** lenw has joined #smartos[11:41:07] <MerlinDMC> trentster, i just need some backup for about 4 boxes ... i have some cloud backup bot those german upload speeds suck[11:41:19] <MerlinDMC> so i was thinking about one or two time capsules[11:41:45] <MerlinDMC> minimum one at home with disk sharing over a vpn connection so i could get my backups from everywhere[11:41:49] <trentster> what is your target going to be? a smartos openindiana vm running nappit, or bare metal?[11:42:27] <MerlinDMC> i have a smartos development box running with my 5tb fileserver zpool ... so it would be a smartos zone ;)[11:42:53] <trentster> ooh good luck mate![11:43:11] <trentster> I would have a look at the nappit afp install script to get some inspiration[11:44:02] <trentster> wget -O - www.napp-it.org/afp[11:44:11] <MerlinDMC> yeah ... i think i should get some spare time and try that out[11:44:18] <trentster> and make sure the script is pulling version 3[11:44:58] <trentster> pls let me know how it goes, and what the working recipe is without using napp-it secret sauce[11:45:29] <MerlinDMC> trentster, if it works i'll build up a dataset for share[11:45:54] <trentster> I am going to be reloading one of my spare home storage servers today as well, its still running ancient opensolaris with pool version 16[11:46:30] <trentster> debating if I should turn it into a SmartOS Box, but probably not the best idea as it wont do KVM as no EPT Support.[11:46:58] <MerlinDMC> i use smartos mainly for zones ... thats helpful like hell[11:47:46] <trentster> yeah, but you think it makes sense to go that route when the main purpose is to share TB pools of network storage?[11:48:44] *** mamash has left #smartos[11:53:39] *** mamash has joined #smartos[11:56:42] <Licenser> trentster unbound isn't easy to install on smarts :P[11:56:48] <MerlinDMC> for me it does because i need that box for building smartos and testing stuff - for a pure fileserver i think i would use smth else[12:09:11] <trentster> good morning Licenser![12:12:54] *** lenw has quit IRC[12:13:01] *** lenw_ has joined #smartos[12:15:53] <MerlinDMC> hmm ... a zone needs more than 128MB memory to install binutils with pkgin ...[12:17:21] <jperkin> what if you pkg_add it manually?[12:18:47] <MerlinDMC> jperkin, didn't try .. but i can[12:19:46] <jperkin> just curious what is using the memory, would assume pkg_add eats a bit with parsing the tgz, so if that works there's some pruning in pkgin to do too[12:20:57] *** lenw_ has quit IRC[12:21:20] *** lenw has joined #smartos[12:22:13] <MerlinDMC> jperkin, even more funny ... "pkgin in binutils" works "pkgin in gcc47" fails:[12:22:15] <MerlinDMC> downloading packages...[12:22:15] <MerlinDMC> binutils-2.22.tgz 100% 8792KB 366.3KB/s 295.2KB/s 00:24[12:22:15] <MerlinDMC> pkgin: can't allocate memory[12:22:51] <jperkin> well, makes sense I guess, gcc47 depends on binutils so if some caching is going on then there's more packages in that case..[12:23:46] <MerlinDMC> yeah ... but why does it fail at adding bintuils with a "can't allocate memory"? ... nothing else is running does it cache the downloads completely in memory?[12:24:02] <jperkin> I don't know[12:25:10] <jperkin> if you set PKG_PATH=<url in /opt/local/etc/pkgin/repositories.conf> then you can just 'pkg_add binutils' to do it manually[12:25:21] <MerlinDMC> hmm ... but looks like smth like that: https://gist.github.com/b659496af9160437fdfe[12:25:29] <jperkin> or gcc47, and it'll do deps automatically[12:26:43] <MerlinDMC> pkg_add works[12:31:48] *** lenw has quit IRC[12:39:42] <trentster> ok, may be a silly question, as I have mainly used kvm, and smart machine knowledge is limited, but I have a smart machine that is running as a proxy server, its been up for a couple of weeks, for some reason I can not ssh into it, and when I zlogin says no free space.[12:40:18] <trentster> I have checked that there is no quota set via " zfs get" and vmadm get uuid.[12:40:22] <trentster> any ideas?[12:40:57] <trentster> Here is the error I get when I zlogin btw " malloc: Resource temporarily unavailable "[12:41:58] <jperkin> something ate all your RAM[12:42:26] <trentster> when i do a " ls " I get Segmentation Fault (core dumped)[12:43:13] <jperkin> prstat -s rss -z <zone uuid> or so to see what's using it all from the GZ[12:45:50] <trentster> literally the only thing installed on the smart machine is squid, and that is using all the ram.[12:45:58] <trentster> 3945 root 459M 452M sleep 1 0 2:20:04 0.0% squid/1[12:46:07] <trentster> would this prevent even ssh logins?[12:51:17] <Licenser> aloa trentster :)[12:52:32] <trentster> jperkin: it was a ram issue, I increased ram and I can now login. Very strange, that I could not ssh in, is that to be expected?[12:52:48] <trentster> Licenser: hi ya mate.[12:53:11] *** mamash has left #smartos[12:57:22] <jperkin> trentster: yes, lots of stuff needs to run during a login session[12:57:43] <Licenser> For the record: mDNS is a pain[12:58:01] <jperkin> sshd needs to fork a new process, then think about all the commands in your .profile which need to run, etc..[13:00:06] *** siezer has quit IRC[13:06:08] *** mamash has joined #smartos[13:23:56] *** lenw has joined #smartos[14:29:30] *** scovich has joined #smartos[14:32:58] *** mamash has left #smartos[14:33:47] <scovich> hi all, what's the easiest way to recompile the dtrace on SmartOS?[14:34:28] <scovich> I've currently got SmartOS running in VMWare (dtrace folks recommended it as the best dtrace hacking platform)[14:35:18] <nahamu> scovich: I'd ask rmustacc when he wakes up.[14:36:36] <scovich> nahamu: perfect. He's the one who suggested I hop on IRC in the first place. Pacific time zone?[14:36:48] <nahamu> scovich: I think so.[14:37:48] <scovich> nahamu: ok, thanks[14:48:50] *** scovich has quit IRC[14:48:51] *** mamash has joined #smartos[14:51:41] <nahamu> mamash: if you have some spare time (haha, funny joke...) if there's any way to make the celt-0.5.1 package in pkgsrc work again and put it into the Joyent tree, it would simplify my Spice builds a bit.[14:52:01] <nahamu> (the trick is that with the celt 0.5.1.3 you have disable the tests it tries to run in the build process...)[14:52:55] <nahamu> (you can see my crazy build process here: http://gpryjfaa.joyent.us/spice/build-spiced-qemu.bash)[14:52:58] *** scovich has joined #smartos[14:57:40] *** ira has joined #smartos[15:00:18] *** mamash has left #smartos[15:06:28] *** siezer has joined #smartos[15:55:26] *** Sachiru has joined #smartos[16:03:51] *** d[^_^]b has quit IRC[16:04:53] *** denizr has joined #smartos[16:11:06] *** d[^_^]b has joined #smartos[16:18:42] *** neophenix has joined #smartos[16:26:07] *** lenw has left #smartos[16:26:42] *** denizr has quit IRC[16:27:00] *** denizr has joined #smartos[16:41:03] *** relling1 has quit IRC[16:41:14] *** relling has joined #smartos[16:42:11] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[16:48:02] *** Licenser has quit IRC[16:48:03] *** Licenser_ has joined #smartos[16:49:27] *** Licenser_ has quit IRC[16:49:54] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[16:52:03] *** Licenser has quit IRC[16:53:56] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[17:09:47] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[17:13:29] *** denizr has quit IRC[17:13:29] *** jdavis1 has joined #smartos[17:13:51] *** denizr has joined #smartos[17:26:05] *** jmeredith has joined #smartos[17:40:48] *** Licenser has quit IRC[17:47:42] *** jamesd has quit IRC[17:47:52] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[18:05:58] *** denizr has quit IRC[18:06:19] *** denizr has joined #smartos[18:07:53] <rmustacc> scovich: I'm around if you questions on how to set yourself up.[18:34:16] *** enmand has quit IRC[18:36:25] *** ryancnelson has quit IRC[18:36:45] *** scovich has quit IRC[18:37:03] *** scovich has joined #smartos[18:37:12] <scovich> mustacc: thanks[18:37:44] <scovich> mustacc: first question is prob. silly: how to get some disk space? tmpfs is 256MB and overflows when I try to install pkgin[18:37:54] <rmustacc> Are you doing that in the GZ?[18:37:57] <rmustacc> Or did you create a zone?[18:38:03] <scovich> no zone yet[18:38:12] <scovich> wanted an editor to edit the zone def...[18:38:22] <Zigara> my first production smartos server showed up at the datacenter today! wee[18:38:50] <rmustacc> You have vim and that's about it to do that.[18:39:05] <rmustacc> Well, ed I guess, but that's not really something most people want to us.[18:39:06] <rmustacc> *use[18:39:20] <Zigara> vim <3[18:39:29] <scovich> right then (emacs user here...)[18:39:56] <scovich> so I set up a zone, is there a good way to get acces to my host machine's disk from there?[18:40:04] <rmustacc> Sorry, pkgin in the GZ is something you can do, but isn't something you can set up.[18:40:11] <rmustacc> Hmm?[18:40:20] <rmustacc> If you create a normal zone it just uses the zpool.[18:40:22] <scovich> I already have illumos sources on my windows host[18:40:46] <rmustacc> Ah, gotcha.[18:40:48] <scovich> MWare allows to share, I believe, but I'm not sure about guest additions in illumos/smartos[18:40:52] <rmustacc> You can do an smb mount.[18:41:01] <rmustacc> Ah... I see. That way.[18:41:13] <scovich> well, any way that doesn't involve scp I'm happy with[18:41:43] <rmustacc> Well, I have no idea how painful it'll be to set up scp. But I'd create a zone and ssh into it to do your work and have the source live there.[18:42:16] <scovich> well, illumos sources are rather large, so I'd like to share the disk space if possible[18:42:31] <scovich> the smartos "disk" just ends up as another file on my host anyway[18:42:32] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[18:42:40] * MerlinDMC would turn on compression for the dataset/zone :)[18:42:58] <rmustacc> Then it's somehow setting up smb/nfs. Not really sure how to do that on Windows, sorry.[18:43:06] <scovich> k[18:43:38] <scovich> I'll figure sth out. back to the zone: how to set up a normal "disk" there, then?[18:44:09] <scovich> also, what do the nic config settings in the zone def mean?[18:44:21] <MerlinDMC> http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/How+to+create+a+zone+%28+OS+virtualized+machine+%29+in+SmartOS[18:44:28] <scovich> are they the zone's "nic" or the global nic that's actually there?[18:44:38] <scovich> (yes, reading that)[18:45:25] <scovich> "network information that's appropriate" was a tad vague...[18:45:30] <MerlinDMC> the "nics" in the json are the nics for the zone ... they're mapped to the physical nic by nic_tag[18:46:20] <MerlinDMC> normally "admin" should give you simple network access ... care about others if you use more than one physical nic :)[18:47:07] <scovich> perfect. and the IP/gateway? any local subnet will do or does it need to match the one my GZ uses?[18:47:31] <MerlinDMC> and I would use the latest base dataset ... 1.7.1 I guess[18:47:36] <scovich> (the end goal is to ssh into the zone from another machine)[18:48:27] <MerlinDMC> i think you can use smth different from the GZ ones ... but while you're unter vmware you should set that nic to bridged mode[18:48:38] <MerlinDMC> (in vmware ofc)[18:48:47] *** jdavis1 has quit IRC[18:49:37] <scovich> I currently have sdc:sdc:smartos:1.6.3[18:49:50] <scovich> the wiki didn't mention installing a "base" dataset[18:50:08] <MerlinDMC> "base" is the new name ...[18:50:15] <rmustacc> that's what you want.[18:50:16] <scovich> ah![18:50:26] <rmustacc> For building illumos, you're going to want that.[18:50:51] <MerlinDMC> trust him ... he knows better ;)[18:50:56] * MerlinDMC afk ... building some hotdogs[18:51:37] <rmustacc> I would follow these instructions: http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Building+SmartOS+on+SmartOS[18:52:20] <scovich> that's where I was. It's out of date, I guess. Says smartos:1.6.3 is the latest[18:52:48] <scovich> I didn't see the new one b/c grep smartos:1.6 doesn't match it[18:53:14] <scovich> as for vmware, I already have nat mode working, can ssh to the GZ[18:53:33] <scovich> at worst I can zlogin from there, if there's no way to ssh directly to the zone[18:53:56] <rmustacc> Well, the 1.6.x stuff is the known stuff that works.[18:53:59] <rmustacc> the 1.7.x does not.[18:54:05] <rmustacc> For building the platform.[18:54:26] <scovich> k[18:55:03] <scovich> sorry, misunderstood you. sticking with smartos:1.6.3[18:56:23] <scovich> what does this mean?[18:56:40] <scovich> error: manifest not specified[18:56:49] <rmustacc> Hmm, what did you run?[18:56:58] <scovich> (sorry, got mangled in pasting)[18:57:09] <scovich> imgadm install 01b2c898-945f-11e1-a523-af1afbe22822[18:57:25] <scovich> (where that uuid is the one imgadm avail gave for 1.6.3[18:57:53] <scovich> oops. s/install/import/[18:59:46] <ira> rmustacc: Is there a way to build the dataset?[19:00:19] <rmustacc> To build any dataset or that one in particular?[19:00:38] <ira> good question? :)[19:00:59] <ira> I'm unclear on how to build any of them. I see how to do the platform.[19:01:05] <rmustacc> ira: Just not sure what you want to do.[19:01:19] <rmustacc> You just want to create your own dataset?[19:01:22] <ira> If I wanted to replicate the 1.6.3 dataset build or the 1.7.0 one?[19:01:34] <rmustacc> To replicate those directly, I'm not sure, sorry.[19:01:50] <ira> Or just a "representative" one.[19:02:18] <rmustacc> mamash has some stuff in progress around turning a smartos zone into a dataset.[19:02:30] <rmustacc> Creating an ur-zone is probably more work and I don't really know.[19:02:47] <MerlinDMC> rmustacc, there was a script in pkgsrc for that[19:02:48] <ira> ur?[19:03:10] <rmustacc> Just some generic primordial zone.[19:03:24] <rmustacc> You'd have to ask mamash how he does it.[19:05:23] <scovich> rmustacc: the import ran a while and then returned this:[19:05:23] <scovich> error: {"error":{"code":21,"message":"error renaming image"}}[19:06:47] <rmustacc> Does imgadm list have anything?[19:07:39] <rmustacc> Sorry, I'm more familiar with the platform and core OS itself, so it'll take me a bit.[19:11:38] <nahamu> ira: I think you're looking for sm-prepare-image[19:11:56] <nahamu> it's a binary from the smtools package in Joyent's pkgsrc[19:12:20] <nahamu> (I have never used sm-prepare-image, I've only glanced at its contents)[19:12:30] <MerlinDMC> i never touched that error ... but the dataset is saved in the db after the zfs rename ... so it should not be there[19:12:48] <MerlinDMC> nahamu, that was the one i was looking for ... i didn't save that name ^^[19:13:09] <scovich> imgadm list returns nothing[19:13:49] <scovich> I had installd it before, then removed it to start installing 1.7, then killed the 1.7 import to re-install 1.6.3[19:14:00] <scovich> maybe something got confused with all the shuffling around?[19:14:17] <rmustacc> Ah, maybe the ZFS dataset is still there.[19:14:49] <scovich> how to verify and/or purge?[19:17:28] <ira> nahamu: If I wanted to add stuff to a zone, that looks right But to build a base one, I'm not sure where the sources etc come from.[19:18:08] <MerlinDMC> scovich, zfs list ... should be under zones/<uuid> ... the failed ones should have a "-partial" at the end[19:19:19] <scovich> merlin: ah, there are two of them[19:19:51] <scovich> and also two with the same name sans "-partial"[19:20:14] <rmustacc> Those really should probably be cleaned up on failure.[19:20:23] <scovich> should I drop them via zfs then?[19:20:32] <MerlinDMC> if imgadm list does not display them i would destroy them and try to reimport[19:20:39] <rmustacc> Yeah.[19:21:01] <scovich> all four?[19:21:03] <rmustacc> Actually, before you do, can you write those all up in for a bug report?[19:21:27] <scovich> zones/01b2c898-945f-11e1-a523-af1afbe22822 194M 17.1G 194M /zones/01b2c898-945f-11e1-a523-af1afbe22822[19:21:27] <scovich> zones/01b2c898-945f-11e1-a523-af1afbe22822-partial 194M 17.1G 194M /zones/01b2c898-945f-11e1-a523-af1afbe22822-partial[19:21:39] <MerlinDMC> rmustacc, it is always a single zfs dataset right? then i probably could make a patch for tomorrow[19:21:53] <scovich> ah, it's not four. I had a line wrap[19:21:55] <scovich> just two[19:22:00] <scovich> ok to nuke them now?[19:22:07] <rmustacc> scovich: Yup[19:22:30] <rmustacc> I just wanted to make sure I could get a bug open on it to fix that failure mode.[19:23:07] *** mamash has joined #smartos[19:27:20] <scovich> rmustacc: installed, but now `zmadm' command not found[19:27:37] <scovich> argh. `vmadm'[19:28:28] <rmustacc> vmadm is not found?[19:29:49] <scovich> rmustacc: no, I typo'd with 'zmadm'[19:31:05] *** jamesd has quit IRC[19:31:55] <rmustacc> Here's the bug regarding the issue you hit: https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/issues/105[19:34:08] <scovich> rmustacc: root password for the new zone? not 'root' and not the one for the gz[19:34:38] <MerlinDMC> scovich, if you didn't specify one in the json just zlogin <uuid> from the global zone and set one[19:35:05] <MerlinDMC> and you need to enable root via ssh in the sshd_config i guess[19:41:12] <scovich> merlin: right now I can do `ssh smartos zlogin[19:41:27] <scovich> is that what you meant?[19:42:50] <rmustacc> scovich nope, just run `zlogin zonename` which is the uuid.[19:43:47] <scovich> rmustacc: sorry, I meant from my windows host (and the line got cut off)[19:43:56] *** Sachiru has quit IRC[19:44:04] <scovich> ssh smartos-ip zlogin $UID[19:44:05] <scovich> seems to work[19:44:08] <rmustacc> Ah, you need to do that from the global zone first to either add an ssh key or set a password.[19:44:15] <rmustacc> Ah, yeah, that'd work.[19:44:30] <scovich> btw, how do you escape the vmadm console?[19:44:40] <scovich> ^[ is ignored because it wants a username...[19:45:11] *** mamash has left #smartos[19:45:41] <MerlinDMC> `exit` ?[19:46:05] <scovich> merlin: it's at the login prompt, which I don't have a password for[19:46:27] <rmustacc> Oh, is that for the GZ ssh?[19:46:42] <scovich> no, I did 'vmadm console $UUID'[19:46:49] <scovich> and it wants the root password, which apparently doesn't exist[19:46:58] <scovich> I can't exit because it ignores ^[[19:47:02] <rmustacc> Yup, there is no root password if you haven't set one.[19:47:12] <rmustacc> Let me figure out the exit.[19:47:38] <rmustacc> If you look at the man page it's you need to use CTRL-] on a line by itself[19:47:43] <scovich> right[19:47:48] <rmustacc> It's in the vmadm man page.[19:47:51] <scovich> but I can't get a line by itself[19:47:53] <rmustacc> Looks like it says you want that then a .[19:48:14] <scovich> ah. missed the '.'[19:48:16] <scovich> thanks[19:48:18] <rmustacc> No problem.[19:48:47] <scovich> so, for building a patched version of dtrace, should I rebuild the whole smartos kernel, or is there a way to just recompile the dtrace module?[19:49:03] <scovich> I think you mentioned the latter, and it sounds better[19:49:08] <rmustacc> So, here's what I do.[19:49:14] <rmustacc> The first time I do a build, I do a full build.[19:49:22] <rmustacc> That way it builds all the subcomponents, etc.[19:49:34] <rmustacc> Once that's done I can do builds in just the dtrace directories.[19:49:49] <rmustacc> And then I'd just test the modified things against the live system in the GZ.[19:50:10] <rmustacc> e.g. have your version of dtrace and libdtrace somewhere in /var/tmp.[19:50:29] <scovich> so to summarize: download smartos sources and helper bits, compile the world, then install just the dtrace module in the gz ?[19:50:40] <rmustacc> Yup[19:50:52] <rmustacc> If you are following the steps there, just run `gmake world`.[19:51:06] <scovich> k. and how to merge my hg clone of illumos with smartos git?[19:51:10] <rmustacc> Then it will drop everything into $ROOT/proto/...[19:51:30] <scovich> or are they unrelated repos?[19:51:32] <rmustacc> I would just work against the illumos-joyent tree.[19:52:01] <scovich> ok. I'll make a patch[19:52:09] *** jdavis1 has joined #smartos[19:52:26] <rmustacc> illumos-joyent is a child of illumos.[19:52:42] <rmustacc> So what you do there should work just straight up against the GZ.[19:52:49] <scovich> k[19:53:00] <scovich> any particular rev to start from to match my current GZ ?[19:53:07] <scovich> or is tip ok?[19:54:29] *** mamash has joined #smartos[19:56:06] <scovich> rmustacc: my zone can't see the outside world[19:56:14] <scovich> wget/etc fail[19:56:51] <scovich> I guess there was something special to do with the 'nics' section of the zonedef?[19:57:00] <MerlinDMC> nameserver settings? or dead network ... ping to 8.8.8.8?[19:57:15] <scovich> dead network[19:57:46] <MerlinDMC> vmware in bridged mode? and correct gateway address?[19:58:04] <scovich> I'm using the 10.88.88.xx subnet for the zone, as given on the wiki[19:58:14] <scovich> let me check what vmware gave the GZ[19:58:21] *** sebasp has joined #smartos[19:58:38] <scovich> merlin: GZ has 192.186.119.xx[19:58:43] <scovich> does the zone need to match?[19:58:48] *** Z`` has joined #smartos[19:58:52] <MerlinDMC> you need to get to a functional gateway ... the GZ or the outside one of your real network[19:59:56] <scovich> so if VMWare is playing dhcp server, can I make the zone request an ip from it?[20:01:08] <rmustacc> Yes.[20:01:11] <MerlinDMC> set the zone ip to "dhcp" and leave the rest out (all except the nic_tag) and try it out ... dunno what vmware will do if you request multiple ips :)[20:01:21] <rmustacc> If you look at the vmadm man page, it describes it in 'nics.*.ip'[20:01:47] <scovich> rmustacc: iirc, it has one dhcp server per host[20:01:51] *** Z` has quit IRC[20:02:00] <scovich> so it should be fine. I have 2+ vm already[20:05:30] <MerlinDMC> rmustacc, should the ip not be updateable by vmadm update <uuid> nics.0.ip=<ip>? ... it says "Successfully updated" but didn't change the property[20:06:42] <scovich> merlin: yes, I just noticed that... even after rebooting the zone[20:07:00] <scovich> should I just drop/recreate the zone? I haven't actually done anything inside it yet...[20:07:13] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[20:09:29] <MerlinDMC> scovich, if you know vim edit /etc/zones/<uuid>.xml and reboot the zone ;)[20:09:32] <rmustacc> MerlinDMC: I'm not sure, that seems a bit weird tough.[20:10:06] <MerlinDMC> rmustacc, yeah ... i know it works if i specify a complete update_nics json ... but the success is weird[20:10:55] <rmustacc> Yeah, that's werid.[20:11:28] <MerlinDMC> i'll fill an issue[20:13:19] <scovich> just tried the update_nics json, seems to work, sort of[20:13:42] <scovich> I got an IP from VMWare, but still can't see out[20:13:50] <scovich> wget: unable to resolve host address `download.joyent.com'[20:13:56] <scovich> ping: sendto No route to host[20:14:04] <scovich> (the latter was for `8.8.8.8')[20:14:37] <scovich> everything looks ok in ifconfig[20:15:52] <ryancnelson> do you really have dns enabled?[20:16:08] <ryancnelson> can you ping your default gateway[20:16:09] <ryancnelson> ?[20:16:35] <scovich> ryan: neither this zone nor the GZ lists a gateway in ifconfig[20:16:56] <scovich> but I can ssh *in* to the zone with its IP[20:17:00] <scovich> it just can't see out[20:17:01] <ryancnelson> this is a zone, or a vm?[20:17:18] <scovich> windows -> smartos -> vmadm zone[20:17:19] <ryancnelson> you can ssh in 'cause you're on the same subnet… this is a routing issue, most likely.[20:17:31] <rmustacc> Either that or vmware not entering into promiscuous mode correctly.[20:17:50] <MerlinDMC> or the vmware dhcp does not give correct data[20:18:00] <scovich> that's entirely possible. Let me poke around a bit[20:18:29] <ryancnelson> oh, the zone is asking *vmware* for an ip? (sorry, i lack context here… just logged on)[20:18:39] <MerlinDMC> https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/issues/106 any other information that might be needed missing?[20:19:31] <MerlinDMC> ryancnelson, i think he changed the nic config to dhcp and he runs the platform in vmware so vmware should be the dhcp server right?[20:19:50] <rmustacc> MerlinDMC: Is it actually not updated for the next boot?[20:20:35] <MerlinDMC> rmustacc, /etc/zones/061fd2f7-e54e-490a-b60f-830537e550ae.xml does not get updated ... but i can reboot that one quick and recheck[20:21:33] <MerlinDMC> no ... also after reboot it is left unchanged, also vmadm get displays the old data[20:22:18] <rmustacc> Right, I could see there potentially being a weird case where if you had changed something that doesn't take effect until the system reboots that it could report some of the older pieces potentially.[20:23:02] <MerlinDMC> yep could have been that case :)[20:33:49] *** echelog-1 has joined #smartos[20:33:52] <scovich> rmustacc: I think I've changed the vmware settings to allow promiscuous, but how can I verify that smartos is running its virtual nic in promiscuous mode?[20:33:53] <scovich> (the vmware setting only allows it, not forces it, the OS has to do the rest)[20:33:55] *** bens1 has quit IRC[20:35:25] *** mamash has left #smartos[20:35:27] <ryancnelson> my vmware fusion (v3.x) always prompts me when my smartos image creates a new vnic… saying it wants to monitor all network traffic[20:35:27] <ryancnelson> not sure if that's disable-able, or different in other vmware versions[20:35:29] <scovich> huh. I'm using Player, it hasn't said anything[20:35:47] <scovich> does smartos automatically go promiscuous when it fires up a zone with networking?[20:35:55] <rmustacc> No, it doesn't need to.[20:36:14] <rmustacc> It does usually detect that it's on VMware and automatically creates a bridge that is forced into promiscuous mode.[20:36:33] <scovich> rmustacc: maybe I'm confused on which nic we're dealing with here...[20:37:08] <scovich> there's the actual nic in my laptop, the NAT nic vmware created to talk to vms, the virtual nic seen inside smartos, and the virtual-virtual nic inside the zone[20:37:41] <scovich> which one(s) are potential problem sources here?[20:38:31] <rmustacc> From inside the zone can you ping anything?[20:38:36] <scovich> no[20:38:55] <scovich> oops, sorry[20:38:59] <scovich> I can ping the GZ[20:40:33] <scovich> I can also ping the other VMWare guest[20:41:52] <rmustacc> Hmm. CAn you ping its gateway.[20:42:01] <scovich> which gateway?[20:42:07] <scovich> I can ping the VMWare gateway[20:42:23] <scovich> but not the one provided by my ISP[20:43:14] <scovich> nor the one my wireless router provides my laptop[20:44:11] <rmustacc> Hmm.[20:44:19] *** denizr has quit IRC[20:44:41] *** denizr has joined #smartos[20:45:58] <ryancnelson> do you actually have a default route?[20:46:03] <ryancnelson> netstat -rn?[20:46:55] <scovich> looks like not[20:47:13] <scovich> there are entries for 127.0.0.x and 192.168.119.x only[20:47:24] <scovich> shouldn't dhcp have set that up?[20:47:28] <ryancnelson> yup. your vmware gw is on the same subnet (so, no routing) … your linksys and your isp are beyond the lan[20:48:12] <ryancnelson> it should have. but dhcp isn't apparently giving (or you're not getting, somehow) the dhcp options that are stuff like default gw, dns, etc...[20:48:28] <ryancnelson> did your dhcp put something in /etc/resolv.conf?[20:48:46] <ryancnelson> (that's another dhcp option that's passed, trying to see if you got anything)[20:49:15] <scovich> ryan: argh. it still has the old 10.88 gateway from my first attempt[20:49:26] <ryancnelson> … or, you could zlogin into that zone, and then re-do the interface with "ifconfig net0 down" … then "ifconfig net0 dhcp" to start over[20:49:26] <scovich> I guess update_nic didn't clear the old settings?[20:49:30] <ryancnelson> sounds like it[20:49:40] <scovich> so how to erase a setting?[20:49:41] <ryancnelson> sounds like it's not using dhcp[20:49:57] <scovich> it is using dhcp, but with an overridden gateway[20:50:12] <scovich> because the zone def gives one[20:50:16] <ryancnelson> ah.[20:51:16] <ryancnelson> well, you can use zonecfg … i'm not in a place where i can look up the update_nic syntax easily[20:51:48] <ryancnelson> or, in a pinch, just edit the xml … make a backup, though[20:53:07] *** ira has quit IRC[20:53:55] *** ira has joined #smartos[20:58:52] *** neophenix has quit IRC[20:59:29] <scovich> ok. vmadm update with a "remove_nics" and "add_nics" json, but still no default route[21:01:06] <rmustacc> Did you mark a nic as 'primary'?[21:01:27] <rmustacc> The nics.*.primary section in the man page talks about it.[21:01:40] <rmustacc> That's what ends up determining the nameservers and default gateways.[21:03:58] <scovich> "nics": [[21:03:58] <scovich> {[21:03:58] <scovich> "interface": "net0",[21:03:59] <scovich> "mac": "c2:37:a2:ce:80:cd",[21:03:59] <scovich> "nic_tag": "admin",[21:03:59] <scovich> "primary": true,[21:03:59] <scovich> "ip": "dhcp"[21:03:59] <scovich> }[21:04:31] <ryancnelson> … but your xml still has a gateway in there?[21:04:47] <scovich> no, I removed the nic and added a "new" one with all settings except the gateway[21:05:23] <scovich> 'primary' was there all along because the wiki said to use it[21:08:17] <scovich> heh[21:08:36] <scovich> just added a 'gateway' tag pointing at the vmware gateway and rebooted the zone[21:08:38] <scovich> happy now[21:09:18] <ryancnelson> so, you're using dhcp but explicitly telling it where the gw is?[21:09:40] <ryancnelson> good that works, but annoying that it's not getting it properly[21:09:54] <rmustacc> I wonder if vmware was returning itself as the gateway or not.[21:10:08] <rmustacc> I just know that we've had to handle that a bunch and it can be a pain in that virtualized world.[21:14:30] <scovich> rmustacc/ryan: agree it's a pain, but at least it works for now[21:15:28] <scovich> (I hate how it takes some hours to learn a new OS kernel code and hack in a change, and then several days to figure out how to compile and run the new kernel)[21:16:23] *** mamash has joined #smartos[21:16:52] <rmustacc> Running the new stuff will be a lot smoother. Since I do that pretty much every day.[21:19:15] <scovich> well, thanks for all the help. ./configure is running, and I'll build the world after that. Hopefully no new problems until I introduce some bugs with my patch ;)[21:21:20] <rmustacc> Once you do the first full build, ping me, and I can walk you through how to go through and do incremental builds in those directories.[21:22:22] <scovich> rmustacc: sounds good. How long should a fresh build take with one core? I figure it will be a couple hours...[21:23:15] <rmustacc> I don't have a good sense of that. I have build machines with 16 cores.[21:23:27] <rmustacc> And there it takes about 45 minutes maybe?[21:30:15] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[21:44:05] <scovich> rmustacc: sorry if I missed this, but the latest sources will make kernel modules compatible with the ones already running in this livecd?[21:44:25] <scovich> or do I need to build a new livecd and then work incrementally from that?[21:48:08] *** denizr has quit IRC[21:48:39] *** denizr has joined #smartos[21:51:17] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[21:51:22] <richlowe> e^ipi: got a moment?[22:32:29] <e^ipi> i didn't then, but i do now :) what's up?[22:38:24] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[22:45:42] *** bens1 has quit IRC[22:46:13] <rmustacc> scovich: Yeah, it'll be fine for DTrace at least.[22:46:59] <richlowe> presuming VERSION stays the same[22:47:10] <richlowe> e^ipi: I plan to give you a pull request to backout that stuff of mine I'd rather you'd not pulled[22:47:30] <e^ipi> alright[22:48:02] *** mamash has left #smartos[23:20:41] *** elijah-mbp has quit IRC[23:22:20] *** igork has joined #smartos[23:24:12] <igork> hi all - could you please provide more info about hyprlofs - what differences with lofs ? and where can I find kvm zone ?[23:24:33] <igork> no illumos-joyent I have found Joyent branded zone[23:24:39] <igork> *on[23:27:34] <e^ipi> https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/tree/master/overlay/generic/usr/lib/brand/kvm[23:30:24] *** elijah-mbp has joined #smartos[23:31:05] <e^ipi> hyperlofs is as it is. read the code to see what it does. we're in no position to explain the what & why yet[23:37:48] <igork> e^ipi: thanks[23:57:59] *** d[^_^]b has quit IRC