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[00:24:47] <nahamu> Can anyone say QEMU 1.1.1 with Spice support for SmartOS? http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Spice+on+SmartOS
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[01:10:52] <benbangert> don't suppose anyone has a svc file around or something for enabling auto-snapshots of datasets marked for it?
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[01:35:22] <konobi> benbangert: crontab?
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[01:38:54] <e^ipi> man, branching everything makes generating those changelogs so much easier
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[03:15:43] <richlowe> I just assumed you had tags sitting around you weren't pushing.
[03:17:13] * bdha pushes a tag.
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[05:15:52] <bdha> So I have a dead disk in a machine... devfsadm doesn't work.
[05:16:00] <bdha> Plugging a new disk in didn't detect the swap.
[05:16:11] <bdha> (It does, same model box, on Solaris proper)
[05:16:15] <bdha> What do?
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[06:11:00] <e^ipi> richlowe: nope, github is the canonical source for all that these days
[06:12:03] <killfill> i have an apache-worker process eating all cpu, and is doing nothing. all i see with truss is "read(5, 0xFFFFFD7FFFDFFADB, 1)(sleeping...)" http://pastebin.com/heYUzq0h
[06:12:24] <killfill> how could i inspect what is it doing with the cpu?
[06:13:46] <richlowe> pstack for a one time look
[06:14:01] <e^ipi> gcore it also a valid option
[06:14:20] <richlowe> something like: dtrace -n 'profile-97hz / pid == $target/ { @[ustack()] = count(); }' -p <pid> for a look at what it's doing most often
[06:14:59] <richlowe> e^ipi: fantastic
[06:15:09] <e^ipi> which is, gcore ?
[06:15:18] <richlowe> No, the bit before
[06:15:22] <e^ipi> oh, yeah
[06:15:29] <e^ipi> i was pretty happy to shut off the internal repos
[06:17:14] <richlowe> killfill: the truss output looks pretty idle, though.
[06:17:37] <richlowe> though byte-at-a-time reads are never fun
[06:17:54] <richlowe> so I guess if there's a bunch of data on that fd, that could be your problem.
[06:18:25] <killfill> hm.. this is what i see http://pastebin.com/GbzhtqTX
[06:18:57] <killfill> im just hammering apache-worker with ab
[06:20:03] * killfill trying to get what is it spinning on
[06:20:55] <killfill> it went crazy.. :P
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[06:33:38] <siezer> sweet snake eating honeybadgers. I finally got sdc working with my non HCL compatible desktop machines. layer2 across vms across nodes == awesomesauce
[06:35:23] <siezer> and my knife-joyent patches were merged
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[08:18:00] <MerlinDMC> morning
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[09:47:27] <trentster1> MerlinDMC: Good morning.
[09:48:17] <trentster1> MerlinDMC: Do you use a Mac as your desktop pc by any chance
[09:48:57] <e^ipi> are you just looking for anyone with a mac?
[09:49:09] <e^ipi> b/c I (and all of joyent) use macs exclusively
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[09:53:29] <MerlinDMC> trentster1, sure
[09:54:28] <MerlinDMC> e^ipi, already updated safari to version 6 or osx to 10.8? ... i'm trying to disable the freaking password safe question thingy
[09:54:39] <e^ipi> no, i'm change averse
[09:54:49] <e^ipi> i'm waiting to get the all-clear from someone else ;)
[09:56:16] <trentster1> MerlinDMC: what osx git client do you use/recommend if any?
[09:56:26] <MerlinDMC> hmm ... safari6 asks for password safe (i use 1password so this bugs me a lot); mail is cutting off messages (displays only portions of it or a blank email, if you open that in textedit it's full of text - that bug exists since about beta2 i think)
[09:57:15] <MerlinDMC> trentster1, command line client, if gui sourcetree (free) or tower (costs some bucks)
[09:57:29] <MerlinDMC> but sourcetree in appstore does not get updated anymore ... use the website version
[09:58:01] <trentster1> thanks, just getting into git myself, and wanted some pointers from the "heavy hitters" ;-)
[09:58:13] <e^ipi> i just use the command line client
[09:58:16] <e^ipi> *shrug*
[10:00:07] <MerlinDMC> e^ipi, i did update my pull requests for the zpool setup script with two newlines
[10:01:03] <MerlinDMC> would a trigger to skip the zpool creation be ok? ... smth like "done" or "none" at disk selection to skip it and use a manually created zones pool?
[10:02:12] <e^ipi> that's this one? https://github.com/joyent/smartos-overlay/pull/10
[10:03:31] <e^ipi> yeah, lgtm
[10:10:04] <MerlinDMC> trentster1, i'm not a heavy hitter on git ... mostly i use google to find some commit ;)
[10:13:08] <trentster1> :^)
[10:13:54] <e^ipi> huh, colloquy renders that emoticon as a snowman
[10:14:49] <e^ipi> i assumed it was the ☃ character
[10:17:37] <jmgao> snowman and ﷽ are the best unicode characters
[10:19:31] <e^ipi> correct.
[10:26:15] <MerlinDMC> you guys have too much time ;)
[10:26:46] <jmgao> no, that would be the unicode committee
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[16:52:08] <StaringSkyward> Hey guys. Quick question about adding storage to my smartos box after install: If I install with one 3 x disk raidz for zones, can I add further 3 x disk raidz vdevs to it later?
[16:52:34] <StaringSkyward> s/further/more/
[16:59:22] <nahamu> StaringSkyward: I can't imagine why not.
[17:00:05] <nahamu> I'd assume you should be able to: zpool add zones raidz <newdisk1> <newdisk2> <newdisk3>
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[17:07:21] <StaringSkyward> Cool. Just checking there are no restrictions over and above normal zfs
[17:08:13] <StaringSkyward> Reading the code it looks like it will create a single raidz if num disks presented > 2. Correct?
[17:08:21] <StaringSkyward> (at install time)
[17:08:41] <nahamu> StaringSkyward: I think so, but I'm not sure.
[17:09:01] <arekinath> yep... twice now I have done that when I wanted split mirrors
[17:09:10] * arekinath sigh
[17:09:46] <StaringSkyward> Is there not a way to specify a completely bespoke disk layout at that point?
[17:10:00] <nahamu> StaringSkyward: I don't think so.
[17:10:37] <nahamu> But you can boot SmartOS in the standalone mode and create your bespoke zones pool and the installer will use it.
[17:11:03] <StaringSkyward> Would be cool to enter, say '*' and then be able to specify a single line zfs create command maybe?
[17:17:30] <nahamu> they love patches...
[17:18:15] <StaringSkyward> I can look at a patch this week if people think it would be a useful shortcut?
[17:18:59] <CarlosC> you bet that would be useful
[17:24:20] <StaringSkyward> OK. I'll figure out how to build smartos and then look at a patch :)
[17:24:42] <nahamu> StaringSkyward: http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Building+SmartOS+on+SmartOS
[17:24:57] <StaringSkyward> nahamu: thanks!
[17:25:30] <nahamu> I seem to have unofficially adopted that page, so if you run into any problems let me know (so that I can then bug the developers... :-P)
[17:25:51] <StaringSkyward> oh, I will :-)
[17:29:06] <StaringSkyward> Hmm. Noob question: once built, what is the easiest way to test the install process, since thats what I'm interested in?
[17:30:20] <nahamu> in a VM, perhaps?
[17:30:39] <killfill> apache+worker doesnt seem to run well on smartos.. :S it locks up
[17:30:46] <killfill> anyone happend to use apache+worker?
[17:35:12] <StaringSkyward> nahamu: what I meant is does "make live" give me an iso or something I can use to make an iso image or something I can then boot a VM with?
[17:35:47] <nahamu> make live generates a platform directory.
[17:36:04] <nahamu> there's a tool to make an iso
[17:36:42] <nahamu> and I hacked that up to make a usb image https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/pull/95
[17:36:59] <nahamu> tools/build_iso is what builds an iso
[17:37:21] <nahamu> you might need to install some additional pkgsrc packages for build_iso to work (I've never used it so I don't know)
[17:38:38] <StaringSkyward> ah, ok. Now I get it. Thanks.
[17:38:39] <rmustacc> You need mkisofs which is in the cdrtools packages.
[17:39:12] <rmustacc> Which should just be added to the list of packages we install.
[17:39:29] <rmustacc> That's for building the iso.
[17:41:58] <StaringSkyward> Thanks. I'll give it a go. Might be back with some more dumbass questions...
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[18:13:26] <ismell> what's the easiest way to move my zones from one box to another ?
[18:15:42] <szaydel> zpool export, zpool import ?
[18:15:57] <szaydel> Or maybe zfs send|zfs rcv?
[18:16:18] <JT-EC> zfs send|mbuffer|zfs receive?
[18:16:40] <nahamu> ismell: vmadm send, perhaps?
[18:17:52] <nahamu> (doesn't seem to be documented in the man page yet...)
[18:19:32] <ismell> oh
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[18:20:51] <ismell> i'll try vmadm send
[18:20:56] <ismell> once I download this thing
[18:23:55] <nahamu> rmustacc: does SmartOS not like Intel TurboBoost?
[18:24:18] <nahamu> I have a machine that wasn't booting properly, and I disabled that and it booted just fine.
[18:24:34] <nahamu> (C-States were already disabled)
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[18:30:02] <rmustacc> No, that should be fine.
[18:30:30] <rmustacc> TurboBoost happens without any knolwedge or coopertaion from the host.
[18:31:29] <nahamu> weird.
[18:31:43] <nahamu> but the kernel would need to know that the clock speed changed, wouldn't it?
[18:32:59] <nahamu> I'm going to invest 10-15 minutes to see if I can recreate the issue and make it go away again.
[18:36:31] <nahamu> "TurboMode" rather
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[18:39:17] <ismell> lol 1hr to download the usb image.... our internet sucks here
[18:40:31] <rmustacc> nahamu: Well, turboboost is supposed to really happen transparently. It's a bit weird to be honest.
[18:42:26] <nahamu> well, turns out I'm just seeing some inconsistent behavior... I turned it back on and this time it booted just fine... :-/
[18:43:06] <rmustacc> How do you know that turboboost is actually to blame?
[18:43:21] <nahamu> right, it probably isn't
[18:43:47] <nahamu> looks like it was pure conicidence that the server cooperated on the boot just after I disabled it
[18:44:01] <nahamu> because it cooperated again after I re-enabled it... false alarm... sorry.
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[19:41:27] <ismell> is there any way to see how far dd is ?
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[19:46:37] <ismell> 850580480 bytes (851 MB) copied, 2256.72 s, 377 kB/s
[19:46:43] <ismell> lol slowest usb stick ever
[19:47:30] <e^ipi> i have suspicions about our usb framework in that regard
[19:48:52] <ismell> this is running on linux in a vbox host
[19:48:57] <ismell> so i blame vbox
[19:54:46] <nahamu> USB sticks are slow in general. the cheaper the slower
[19:55:11] <nahamu> and on linux systems, I think dd responds to the USR1 signal by spitting out its progress.
[19:55:22] <nahamu> (I'm pretty sure illumos dd does *not* do that)
[19:55:53] <e^ipi> almost certainly not
[19:57:58] <ismell> yeah that's how i got the output
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[20:35:58] <ismell> Gen, thanks!
[20:36:28] <ismell> You are going to have to give me your new address so the girl can send a thank you card
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[20:53:51] <ismell> oh i'm in the wrong channel
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[21:56:31] <MerlinDMC> ismell, my usbstick got written with 118kB/s ...
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[23:02:33] <ismell> hrmm help ?
[23:02:42] <ismell> I tried booting the usb stick and i get ",BSS=0x0"
[23:03:18] <rmustacc> And how long have you waited?
[23:03:41] <ismell> a few seconds, should i wait minutes ?
[23:03:46] <rmustacc> That's a normal thing to see from grub when you don't select a menu option and you're waiting for your bios to pio all the data.
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[23:04:03] <ismell> ohh
[23:04:04] <rmustacc> Yeah, you're at the mercy of how fast your bios can read that data.
[23:04:21] <rmustacc> It can be slow.
[23:04:32] <ismell> guess I will run to the bthroom then :)
[23:04:33] <ismell> brb
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[23:36:07] <ismell> woot it's up
[23:50:03] <ismell> I just changed my /usbkey/config to change the ip/dns is there a way to restart the network with the new settings or should i just reboot ?
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