July 17, 2012 
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July 17, 2012 [00:00:23] *** denizr1 has joined #smartos[00:02:11] *** denizr has quit IRC[00:09:56] *** enmand has joined #smartos[00:12:31] *** denizr has joined #smartos[00:13:08] *** denizr1 has quit IRC[00:27:30] *** kfr has quit IRC[00:44:22] *** pijewski has quit IRC[00:51:25] <Licenser> epmd?[00:52:30] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[00:56:10] <Licenser> _jared_ funniely enough I ran in exactly the same problem epmd and SMF don't really like eachother :([01:00:31] <_jared_> haha, small world[01:01:20] <Licenser> totally[01:01:43] <Licenser> I didn't find a good solution - I satted with 'my project goes in it's own zone so I don't have to bother'[01:01:47] <_jared_> What of the other two or three erlang apps in the wild are you working on?[01:02:09] *** deirdres has quit IRC[01:02:11] <Licenser> project FiFo :) a management tool for SmartOS[01:02:25] <_jared_> oh I've looked at that, nice[01:02:34] <Licenser> cool :)[01:02:36] <_jared_> I didn't realize it was an erlang joint[01:02:53] <Licenser> it's no joint it's just me :P[01:04:02] <Licenser> but yea it's nearly 100% erlang[01:04:21] <_jared_> awesome[01:04:38] <Licenser> :)[01:06:07] <Licenser> well if you ever try it out - let me know if you find a rough edge ^^[01:08:38] <Licenser> what are you working on?[01:16:44] *** denizr has quit IRC[01:19:20] <Licenser> http://www.evernote.com/shard/s4/sh/3e891dd9-d538-481e-adda-dfd693a49d0e/1e776ece2f7575a343ca70bf9b9eca29 <= pretty stats from Fifo :D[01:19:28] <Licenser> and with that I'm off to sleep, take care everyone[01:26:56] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[01:32:37] *** jelmd has quit IRC[01:35:18] *** haggle has quit IRC[01:37:02] *** MagnusDredd has joined #smartos[01:39:13] *** jelmd has joined #smartos[01:45:56] *** deirdres has quit IRC[01:50:29] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[01:52:30] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[01:52:51] *** jamesd_ has quit IRC[01:59:07] *** dap has quit IRC[01:59:47] *** dap has joined #smartos[02:03:23] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[02:07:56] *** denizr has joined #smartos[02:25:58] *** denizr has quit IRC[02:29:29] <jeffpc> wheee! the USB flash drive arrived... I can set up smartos on my server :)[02:31:49] *** relling has joined #smartos[02:32:43] *** denizr has joined #smartos[02:33:20] *** MagnusDredd has quit IRC[02:34:25] <deirdres> Another convert to the cult of badger[02:35:00] <jeffpc> deirdres: shhh! don't tell anyone.[02:36:34] <deirdres> We're a very quiet cult, I promise no jumping on Oprah's sofa[02:36:46] <deirdres> Well, maybe Bryan would do that...[02:36:47] <jeffpc> ah, great[02:36:49] <jeffpc> heh[02:39:18] <jeffpc> why a badger, btw?[02:39:37] <rmustacc> It's a honey badger.[02:39:50] <rmustacc> Pretty important distinction in terms of the limits of what will do.[02:40:58] <jeffpc> yeah, still no idea[02:41:31] <jeffpc> got it! smartos will eat your chickens![02:42:04] <rmustacc> It's an animal known for killing cobras that stab it with venom.[02:42:38] <jeffpc> seems like a tough one to kill[02:43:30] <deirdres> Small but dangerous[02:43:34] <jeffpc> yep[02:45:27] <deirdres> Also possibly insane[02:47:13] <nahamu> someone should get e^ipi to put a (different?) badger on the smartos images..[02:49:27] <deirdres> I wanted to do a cartoon badger mascot to put on t-shirts[02:56:31] *** denizr has quit IRC[02:57:18] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[03:05:03] *** dap has quit IRC[03:19:42] *** denizr has joined #smartos[03:20:31] *** denizr has quit IRC[03:21:08] *** denizr has joined #smartos[03:23:25] *** deirdres has quit IRC[03:28:03] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[03:29:54] *** jamesd_ has joined #smartos[03:30:01] *** denizr has quit IRC[03:31:31] *** denizr has joined #smartos[03:32:13] *** jamesd has quit IRC[03:37:45] *** deirdres has quit IRC[03:48:15] *** denizr has quit IRC[04:00:08] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[04:00:23] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[04:02:02] *** bixu has quit IRC[04:07:15] *** bixu has joined #smartos[04:13:02] <jeffpc> sort of a silly question...[04:13:25] <jeffpc> suppose I want a bunch of zones on the same network, but unable to talk to each other[04:13:39] <jeffpc> does smartos have any magic sauce for that?[04:14:31] <jeffpc> (I have 1 public IP, that I want to NAT to a bunch of different zones - and if one gets compromised, I don't want it to spread)[04:17:14] <ismell> can you make seperate vlans for all of them ?[04:17:55] <jeffpc> yeah, but then I'll have to make the firewall zone be on all the networks... doable, but seems a bit... silly[04:18:20] <jeffpc> I'll probably end up doing that[04:22:40] *** denizr has joined #smartos[04:30:32] *** denizr has quit IRC[04:33:37] *** bixu has quit IRC[04:34:07] *** bixu has joined #smartos[04:39:59] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[04:41:37] *** bixu has quit IRC[04:42:05] *** bixu has joined #smartos[04:45:14] *** denizr has joined #smartos[04:49:55] *** deirdres has quit IRC[04:51:35] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[04:51:56] *** denizr has quit IRC[04:53:43] <konobi> jeffpc: that's what vlans are for[04:54:08] <jeffpc> yeah...[04:54:14] *** jdavis has quit IRC[05:01:15] *** deirdres has quit IRC[05:19:33] *** enmand has quit IRC[05:21:49] *** marsell_ has joined #smartos[05:24:59] *** marsell has quit IRC[05:24:59] *** marsell_ is now known as marsell[06:12:27] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[06:31:31] *** Licenser has quit IRC[06:39:48] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[06:57:53] *** Webhostbudd has quit IRC[07:02:27] *** Licenser has quit IRC[07:11:59] *** papertigers has quit IRC[07:28:23] <MerlinDMC> morning[07:51:25] *** marsell has quit IRC[08:04:00] *** trentster has quit IRC[08:04:19] *** trentster has joined #smartos[08:10:52] *** trentster has quit IRC[08:11:15] *** trentster has joined #smartos[08:15:58] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[08:21:40] *** max` has joined #smartos[08:26:29] *** deirdres has quit IRC[08:51:58] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[09:01:38] *** deirdres has quit IRC[09:14:38] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[09:14:46] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[09:24:58] *** deirdres has quit IRC[09:27:19] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[09:49:50] <max`> g'morning[09:59:13] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[10:03:04] *** mamash has joined #smartos[10:03:32] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[10:05:11] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[10:10:42] *** darjeeli_ has joined #smartos[10:10:50] *** jamesd_ has quit IRC[10:10:57] *** adrcuth has joined #smartos[10:14:19] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[10:15:09] <MerlinDMC> morning max`[10:22:20] *** adrcuth has quit IRC[10:22:43] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[10:26:10] *** haggle has joined #smartos[10:27:07] *** Licenser has quit IRC[10:30:23] *** Guest82548 is now known as Red_Devil[10:33:01] *** aroop has joined #smartos[10:46:29] *** marsell has joined #smartos[11:43:40] *** darjeeli_ has quit IRC[12:13:16] *** gregburd has quit IRC[12:13:16] *** _jared_ has quit IRC[12:13:16] *** reiddraper has quit IRC[12:13:17] *** indutny has quit IRC[12:28:16] *** mamash has left #smartos[12:28:19] *** gregburd has joined #smartos[12:39:44] *** _jared_ has joined #smartos[12:58:18] <trentster> Hi all, are cpu_caps and cpu_shares only applicable to smart machines and not kvm VM's?[13:08:57] <MerlinDMC> trentster, your kvm machines run in a smartos zone ... so it should be used by both - but someone else who really knows for sure should tell you the right thing ;)[13:09:28] <MerlinDMC> also ... what does the manpage say for those attributes?[13:18:53] *** nineveh has quit IRC[13:19:47] *** nineveh has joined #smartos[13:21:14] *** indutny has joined #smartos[13:33:49] <trentster> MerlinDMC: well the manpage says its applicable to both, yet the issue it for kvm vm's you define number of cpu's so therefore the cpu cap can not really be applicable afaik. As you canot burst further than the number of cpus KVM vm can see.[13:37:49] *** enmand has joined #smartos[13:40:18] <MerlinDMC> trentster, i would really try to ask that later when all those geeks are awake ... or bug the mailing list maybe[13:44:31] <trentster> thanks will do.[13:49:22] *** mamash has joined #smartos[14:44:04] <aroop> how do i use supervisor on smartos...[15:14:02] *** noahmehl has joined #smartos[15:19:24] *** CarlosC has joined #smartos[15:28:40] *** jamesd_ has joined #smartos[15:57:03] *** |woody| has joined #smartos[16:08:42] *** jdavis has joined #smartos[16:14:12] *** jamesd_ has quit IRC[16:14:28] *** jamesd__ has joined #smartos[16:21:56] *** reiddraper has joined #smartos[16:33:31] <nahamu> aroop: what do you mean?[16:40:46] <rmustacc> aroop: Use SMF.[16:52:04] *** trentster has quit IRC[16:52:20] <calmh> how closely does smartos track illumos-gate? i.e. changes in there, when can you expect them to pop up in smartos?[16:52:30] *** trentster has joined #smartos[17:01:03] <wesolows> when e^ipi syncs up, as I believe he did just last week[17:01:52] <nahamu> I thought it's been longer than that.[17:03:18] <nahamu> The last obvious merge when I look at the commits was 2 months ago, but I could be missing something.[17:03:38] <calmh> ah, right, there's an "illumos sync" commit on may 6[17:04:02] <wesolows> I'll have to let him speak for himself here. I had seen that he was doing the sync, but maybe something went wrong.[17:04:49] <calmh> well that would explain why i wasn't seeing the zfs stuff from may 21 :)[17:05:17] <rmustacc> trentster: Remember that QEMU has more threads than vcpus, so your caps can matter.[17:06:02] *** scanf has quit IRC[17:06:43] <aroop> rmustacc: thanks... will try it out[17:06:50] *** d[^_^]b has joined #smartos[17:07:00] <rmustacc> aroop: I asume you're trying to do process monitoring, etc.[17:11:22] *** enmand has quit IRC[17:12:49] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[17:14:32] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[17:14:48] *** denizr has joined #smartos[17:14:57] *** enmand has joined #smartos[17:18:58] <aroop> rmustacc: am looking for a replacement of http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/supervise.html ... coming from a linux world :-)[17:19:57] *** enmand has quit IRC[17:20:19] <rmustacc> Yeah, SMF is what you're looking for. It might be a bit more complicated, but it does have the proper support from the OS to do that correctly.[17:25:44] *** enmand has joined #smartos[17:26:25] *** enmand has quit IRC[17:27:00] *** jdavis has quit IRC[17:59:03] *** jdavis has joined #smartos[18:10:36] *** jmeredith has quit IRC[18:11:27] *** jmeredith has joined #smartos[18:12:38] *** aroop has quit IRC[18:13:40] *** max` has quit IRC[18:17:23] *** jdavis has quit IRC[18:24:40] *** dap has joined #smartos[18:27:11] *** deirdres has quit IRC[18:32:14] *** ctable has joined #smartos[18:37:31] *** aroop has joined #smartos[18:39:13] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[18:39:30] *** dap has quit IRC[18:39:30] *** jmeredith has quit IRC[18:39:31] *** bens1 has quit IRC[18:39:31] *** bixu has quit IRC[18:39:31] *** scooby2 has quit IRC[18:39:31] *** Teknix has quit IRC[18:39:31] *** jperkin has quit IRC[18:39:31] *** Saskaloon has quit IRC[18:39:32] *** brendang has quit IRC[18:43:36] *** mamash has left #smartos[18:48:22] <_jared_> does svcadm on smartos by default go fetch manifests from somewhere on the system?[18:49:03] <_jared_> if I do a svccfg export <app> and it doesn't exist, but then do a svcadm enable <app>, where did it get that SMF definition from?[18:49:27] <rmustacc> SMF has a notion of manifest importa that it runs when the zone gets started.[18:49:51] <rmustacc> In the zone it checks /lib/svc/manifest (which is from the GZ) and /var/svc/manifest (which is zone specific)[18:50:07] <rmustacc> Those only happen onzone boot.[18:50:20] <rmustacc> But that doesn't really makes sense.[18:50:22] <rmustacc> *make sense[18:50:32] <rmustacc> You shouldn't be able to svcadm enable something that you can't export.[18:50:38] <rmustacc> _jared_: Can you give an example?[18:50:54] <_jared_> so I'm making our own riak package[18:51:01] <_jared_> and i made my own manifest file[18:51:20] <_jared_> but when I do a svcadm enable riak, it seems to already have one[18:51:39] <_jared_> now maybe there is still an old one hanging around, but I swore this was a fresh zone[18:52:10] *** noahmehl has joined #smartos[18:52:17] <_jared_> joyent has riak in its pkgsrc repo, so I didn't know if smf was somehow magically getting that one, but that seems unlikely[18:52:28] <_jared_> compared to me just having a stale one sitting around[18:53:10] <ctable> Did you ever create the svc in the gz ?[18:54:05] <_jared_> if I did, it was purely on accident[18:54:22] <_jared_> is there a way to tell me where svccfg is getting the xml from?[18:57:21] *** dap has joined #smartos[18:57:21] *** jmeredith has joined #smartos[18:57:21] *** bixu has joined #smartos[18:57:21] *** scooby2 has joined #smartos[18:57:21] *** Teknix has joined #smartos[18:57:21] *** jperkin has joined #smartos[18:57:21] *** Saskaloon has joined #smartos[18:57:21] *** brendang has joined #smartos[19:01:34] *** mamash has joined #smartos[19:05:13] *** ctable has quit IRC[19:16:27] *** enmand has joined #smartos[19:16:31] <_jared_> okay, i think i got it working[19:17:01] <_jared_> i just need to force "svccfg import <new.xml>" on install of app to overwrite any config that's already there[19:17:56] *** deirdres has quit IRC[19:18:30] *** jdavis has joined #smartos[19:22:05] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[19:36:55] *** enmand has quit IRC[19:42:33] *** haggle has quit IRC[19:44:28] *** deirdres has quit IRC[20:05:01] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[20:05:28] *** denizr has quit IRC[20:05:47] *** denizr has joined #smartos[20:11:56] *** aroop has quit IRC[20:15:46] *** bens1 has quit IRC[20:20:40] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[20:23:27] *** noahmehl has joined #smartos[20:24:44] *** jmeredith has quit IRC[20:27:32] *** v12 has quit IRC[20:36:33] *** scanf has joined #smartos[20:37:34] *** haggle has joined #smartos[20:45:53] *** trentster1 has joined #smartos[20:47:03] *** trentster has quit IRC[20:48:24] *** haggle has quit IRC[20:48:53] *** haggle has joined #smartos[20:59:52] *** saablover has joined #smartos[21:00:05] <saablover> anyone running smartos on the newest mac mini ?[21:01:05] <rmustacc> Not that I know of, sorry.[21:02:02] <saablover> if you could put ecc memory in it, it would be a cool box to run at home[21:10:12] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[21:11:54] *** |woody| has quit IRC[21:23:31] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[21:24:05] <killfill> still dont get FSS.. :P just sent an email to the list[21:38:36] *** mathie has joined #smartos[21:44:38] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[21:45:09] *** enmand has joined #smartos[21:48:08] <Licenser> aloa[21:56:44] *** th has quit IRC[21:56:50] *** v12 has joined #smartos[21:57:00] *** th has joined #smartos[21:57:00] *** th has joined #smartos[21:58:47] *** deirdres has quit IRC[21:58:49] *** killfill has quit IRC[21:58:59] *** enmand has quit IRC[21:59:41] *** killfill has joined #smartos[22:00:01] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[22:03:49] *** deirdres_ has joined #smartos[22:06:20] *** deirdres has quit IRC[22:06:20] *** deirdres_ is now known as deirdres[22:10:12] *** ryancnelson has quit IRC[22:11:23] *** saablover has quit IRC[22:13:20] *** joedevivo has joined #smartos[22:14:06] *** jamesd__ has quit IRC[22:14:35] *** jamesd_ has joined #smartos[22:14:46] <joedevivo> anybody have issues with datasets.joynet.com not resolving?[22:16:07] <scooby2> negative[22:16:32] <CarlosC> are you on the global zone?[22:17:02] <scooby2> their secondary dns server does not appear to be working[22:17:16] <scooby2> oh there it goes[22:17:44] <nahamu> joedevivo: was that a typo, or do you have it wrong? (should be "joyent")[22:17:58] <joedevivo> typo :)[22:18:02] <nahamu> k :)[22:18:08] <joedevivo> looks like I have dns issues[22:18:23] <joedevivo> like I can't resolve any hostnames :)[22:18:32] <CarlosC> check your /etc/nsswitch.conf[22:19:00] <scooby2> stupid question. is smartos production ready?[22:19:09] <CarlosC> yes[22:19:29] <scooby2> cool[22:19:31] <joedevivo> @CarlosC what am I looking for in there?[22:19:47] <CarlosC> do you see dns in any of the entries?[22:20:09] <joedevivo> hosts and ipnodes[22:20:16] <CarlosC> good[22:20:50] <CarlosC> what are you using for /etc/resolv.conf ?[22:21:09] <joedevivo> "/etc/resolv.conf" 0 lines, 0 characters[22:21:21] <scooby2> that would be your problem[22:21:32] <scooby2> :)[22:21:46] <joedevivo> I set it all up in /usbkey/config[22:21:49] <joedevivo> does that not work?[22:22:14] <CarlosC> what are your resolvers in /usbkey/config ?[22:22:34] <joedevivo> dns_resolvers=8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4[22:23:53] <CarlosC> this is SmartOS or SDC?[22:24:23] <joedevivo> SmartOS[22:25:01] <CarlosC> hmm...[22:26:01] <CarlosC> I would modify your /etc/resolv.conf for the moment[22:26:08] <CarlosC> are you stuck on that particular version?[22:26:13] <CarlosC> or can you use the latest?[22:26:21] <joedevivo> just put the ips in?[22:26:45] <CarlosC> nameserver 8.8.8.8 (as one line)[22:26:57] <CarlosC> nameserver 8.8.4.4 (as the second line)[22:27:11] <CarlosC> you should be resolving hosts after that[22:27:16] <joedevivo> worked[22:30:11] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[22:30:11] *** deirdres has quit IRC[22:31:08] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[22:45:32] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[22:48:06] *** mathie has quit IRC[22:56:01] *** bens1 has quit IRC[22:59:08] <jeffpc> FWIW[22:59:08] <jeffpc> http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Download+SmartOS[22:59:23] <jeffpc> that lists #illumos and #joyent as places on IRC[22:59:26] <jeffpc> not #smartos[22:59:33] *** enmand has joined #smartos[23:02:24] <rmustacc> Update it.[23:03:08] <jeffpc> I don't have an account[23:03:18] <jeffpc> (and I'm lazy)[23:03:40] <jeffpc> plus I have smartos to try to bring up on this test box[23:04:25] <ryancnelson> i'll fix that[23:05:49] <rmustacc> It didn't exist at the time unfortunately.[23:06:35] <jeffpc> hrm[23:06:42] <jeffpc> I try to boot off a USB key[23:06:47] <nahamu> rmustacc: if you're busy I can edit that wiki page.[23:06:54] <jeffpc> and after grub all I get is: , bss=0x*[23:06:56] <jeffpc> and after grub all I get is: , bss=0x0[23:07:19] <nahamu> jeffpc: how long does it sit like that (there's nothing inherently wrong with seeing that)?[23:07:22] <rmustacc> jeffpc: And now you wait for your bios.[23:07:44] <jeffpc> nahamu: ah, I never let it sit for more than a minute[23:07:50] <ryancnelson> is this a real host, or virtualbox?[23:07:53] <jeffpc> real[23:08:07] <jeffpc> I don't remember seeing it when booting from a CD ...[23:08:20] <nahamu> BIOSes and USB sticks are often slow.[23:08:21] <ryancnelson> still, wait. maybe for several minutes, depending on the speed of your usb port, key, and bios[23:08:33] <jeffpc> ok[23:08:43] <rmustacc> jeffpc: It shows up, I find, when you don't purposefully select a boot option.[23:08:50] * jeffpc hopes that the real box he wants to use it on is better behaved[23:08:51] <rmustacc> e.g. you never enter the grub menu.[23:08:58] <ryancnelson> with a CD, you get "dots" as you boot, for some reason i don't recall… usb, you just sit.[23:09:20] <jeffpc> ryancnelson: ah, that's the dot equivalent? makes more sense now[23:09:40] <rmustacc> Whether you see dots or not, iirc, depends on whether or not you select a boot option in grub.[23:09:58] <jeffpc> I pressed enter this time (selecting the default entry)[23:10:04] <ryancnelson> i'm really not sure, that's grub voodoo to me. but what you're seeing is something we've seen normally, and waiting usually pays off[23:10:13] <ryancnelson> it does take a fair amount of time[23:10:51] <jeffpc> sadly, this USB stick doesn't blink at me to indicate activity[23:11:27] <rmustacc> You are at the mercy of your bios and doing PIO probably.[23:11:37] <jeffpc> probably[23:11:57] <jeffpc> I don't expect it to try to be smart about USB boot[23:12:02] * jeffpc doesn't like USB[23:14:17] *** mamash has left #smartos[23:15:40] <ryancnelson> i updated the irc info at http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Download+SmartOS[23:15:47] <jeffpc> thanks[23:15:58] <ryancnelson> prepare for a flood of newbs here!!!![23:18:16] <jeffpc> rmustacc, nahamu: it booted[23:22:34] <Licenser> ryancnelson but I'm already here![23:26:07] *** Webhostbudd has joined #smartos[23:41:10] *** CarlosC has quit IRC[23:50:42] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[23:59:07] *** jamesd has joined #smartos