July 14, 2012 
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July 14, 2012 [00:07:08] *** enmand has joined #smartos[00:11:29] *** enmand has quit IRC[00:11:57] *** ira has quit IRC[00:29:43] *** chorrell has quit IRC[00:41:33] *** michaeldexter has quit IRC[00:41:41] *** denizr has quit IRC[00:57:54] *** marsell has quit IRC[01:05:32] *** marsell has joined #smartos[01:16:54] *** lpin has quit IRC[01:30:41] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[01:54:23] *** Webhostbudd_ has joined #smartos[01:55:15] *** Webhostbudd has quit IRC[02:18:04] *** marsell has quit IRC[02:22:01] *** marsell has joined #smartos[02:38:12] *** scanf has quit IRC[02:39:43] *** scanf has joined #smartos[02:43:59] *** bradleymeck has joined #smartos[02:48:49] *** enmand has joined #smartos[02:59:19] *** jdavis has quit IRC[03:04:19] *** dap has quit IRC[03:05:49] <jeffpc> what's the easiest way to blow away the existing zones pool and get the "installer" again?[03:06:20] <rmustacc> A few ways.[03:06:35] <rmustacc> Reboot and add noimport to the grub menu.[03:06:54] <rmustacc> When you're there, zpool import and destroy.[03:15:52] *** enmand has quit IRC[03:17:07] <jeffpc> hrm, I tried that but it still imported it[03:17:37] <jeffpc> noimport=true instead of noimport?[03:19:06] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[03:20:52] <rmustacc> Ah, right.[03:20:54] <rmustacc> Sorry.[03:25:43] *** joshie has quit IRC[03:25:58] <jeffpc> huh... that got it into a confused state[03:26:10] <jeffpc> got the login prompt, but it didn't let me log in[03:26:20] <jeffpc> and it complained about the loopback interface not being up[03:26:50] <jeffpc> I'll just use something else (OI or linux) to clobber the begining of the disk[03:28:42] <rmustacc> Well, if you don't import the config, you have to use the default password.[03:28:43] *** deirdres has quit IRC[03:28:53] <rmustacc> There is another way to go about it, but it isn't guaranteed to always work.[03:28:55] <rmustacc> One moment.[03:29:02] <jeffpc> oh ok[03:29:03] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[03:29:40] <rmustacc> zfs set smartdc:factoryreset=yes zones/var[03:30:10] <jeffpc> that causes a zpool recreation?[03:30:22] <rmustacc> That will cause zpool erasure.[03:30:37] <jeffpc> sweet[03:31:04] <rmustacc> It's not really documented, and that's for a reason, but it should work for now.[03:31:30] <jeffpc> just set it & reboot?[03:31:39] <rmustacc> Yup[03:31:46] <rmustacc> Assuming zones is your system zpool.[03:32:12] <jeffpc> yeah, it was a smartos "install" and I just want to start from scratch[03:32:22] <rmustacc> Yup[03:36:52] <konobi> hoho... http://www.giadatech.com/usa/index.php?app=product&act=show&id=71[03:37:08] <konobi> a teeny machine for testing[03:38:45] *** deirdres has quit IRC[03:45:57] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[03:52:36] <jeffpc> rmustacc: worked great[03:55:42] *** deirdres has quit IRC[03:59:49] *** Tekni has quit IRC[04:07:14] *** jamesd has quit IRC[04:07:56] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[04:11:08] <jeffpc> sigh... part of me wishes smartos worked os 32-bit systems because I do have a pile of them[04:12:15] <jeffpc> (I realize that it makes *no* sense to spend the time & effort to make a 32bit build)[04:16:05] <marsell> konobi: think that'd work?[04:16:56] <marsell> Hmm. USB 3.0.[04:17:04] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[04:22:30] <rmustacc> jeffpc: You could spin your own build.[04:22:38] <rmustacc> We always build the 32-bit kernel.[04:22:43] <rmustacc> But we don't ship it.[04:22:54] <rmustacc> jeffpc: Though kvm can't work on a 32-bit kernel.[04:23:19] <rmustacc> jeffpc: It's really just a matter of shipping the 32-bit drivers, etc.[04:23:35] <rmustacc> It should just be a change to illumos-joyent/manifest and the associated boot files.[04:24:20] <konobi> marsell: usually disable-able in BIOS[04:25:26] <marsell> I could use a dedicated box for SDC development. VMware is better than naught, but otherwise a bit unpleasant.[04:26:07] <konobi> you can build one for ~$200 though[04:26:46] *** deirdres has quit IRC[04:27:28] *** joshie has joined #smartos[04:27:32] <konobi> reminds me that i wondered why we don't do initial_script on smartos boot[04:31:43] <marsell> An Intel mobo alone costs $200+.[04:32:20] <marsell> The problem with the really cheap ones is I won't know if SmartOS works properly on it until I've paid for it and it arrived by mail.[04:33:01] <marsell> Cheap ones = cheap boxes.[04:35:22] <rmustacc> marsell: I can send you a cheapo list that Ryan is using in his NYC datacenter with a sandybridge box.[04:35:27] <rmustacc> It's maybe 300-400[04:36:29] <marsell> Oh, that'd be good. If you can, thanks. :)[04:37:11] *** bradleymeck has quit IRC[04:38:33] <konobi> well, i just use a consumer asus mobo[04:38:35] <rmustacc> You can probably play around with what's in it, but let me send some links your way.[04:38:57] <konobi> rmustacc: that'd be good for me too[04:39:23] <rmustacc> I'll include you on the mail.[04:39:29] <konobi> ta[04:39:36] <rmustacc> It looks like some of the parts are no longer for sale on newegg, but you can look for them elsewhere / use it as a starting point.[04:39:43] <konobi> now... to find a cheap decent hba[04:39:55] <konobi> shoptbot.ca is a good starting point[04:40:02] <konobi> um... shopbot.ca even[04:40:42] <konobi> they often have referral links that have discounts that aren't advertised elsewhere[04:41:05] <rmustacc> Okay, sent along.[04:41:21] <marsell> Thanks. :)[04:41:38] <marsell> Maybe this can go on the wiki.[04:42:03] <rmustacc> I mean, it's not without its flaws.[04:42:05] <konobi> very similar to what i got[04:42:17] <konobi> (though my cpu was a $65 version)[04:42:27] <rmustacc> Yeah, you can certainly get a cheaper CPU.[04:42:28] <konobi> i5[04:43:18] <konobi> of course HDDs are still stupid expensive[04:55:11] *** dap has joined #smartos[04:59:21] *** dap has quit IRC[05:16:36] *** marsell_ has joined #smartos[05:18:18] *** marsell has quit IRC[05:18:18] *** marsell_ is now known as marsell[05:26:12] *** elizabethkeeler has left #smartos[05:54:28] *** jamesd has quit IRC[06:38:41] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[06:48:18] *** deirdres has quit IRC[07:03:50] *** michaeldexter has joined #smartos[07:26:52] *** marsell_ has joined #smartos[07:28:35] *** marsell has quit IRC[07:28:37] *** marsell_ is now known as marsell[07:31:43] *** denizr has joined #smartos[07:52:36] *** marsell has quit IRC[08:14:24] *** michaeldexter has quit IRC[08:22:14] *** michaeldexter has joined #smartos[08:39:44] *** lpin has joined #smartos[08:40:47] *** Niamkik has joined #smartos[08:55:31] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[09:21:01] *** denizr has quit IRC[09:33:28] *** michaeldexter has quit IRC[10:07:06] *** marsell has joined #smartos[10:18:02] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[10:41:22] *** bens1 has quit IRC[10:55:48] *** marsell has quit IRC[11:19:45] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[11:21:24] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[12:07:04] *** worsoe has joined #smartos[12:24:31] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[12:44:00] <Licenser> good mirning everyone :)[12:56:16] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[13:21:17] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[13:24:29] *** bens1 has quit IRC[13:26:26] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[13:27:54] *** ctable has joined #smartos[13:29:49] *** sjorge has quit IRC[13:30:58] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[13:35:21] *** sjorge has joined #smartos[13:38:19] <ctable> Does SmartOS operate with less over-heads than VMware?[13:44:47] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[13:53:49] <Licenser> ctable I think that depends on your definition of overhead :) I've not measured it but I'd guess at least Zones have less overhead then VMware, KVM - I'm not sure[13:54:27] <Licenser> but I think SmartOS's advantages/goals are not primiarily based on overhead[13:55:04] *** enmand has joined #smartos[14:01:29] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[14:29:31] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[14:31:28] *** darjeeli_ has joined #smartos[14:32:25] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[14:38:15] <Licenser> trentster you're around mate?[14:42:29] <Licenser> out of curiosity is the pkg repositiry ass slow or is it just my connection?[14:46:45] *** darjeeli_ has quit IRC[15:07:02] *** marsell has joined #smartos[15:21:15] *** marsell has quit IRC[15:26:43] *** marsell has joined #smartos[15:26:55] *** marsell_ has joined #smartos[15:29:42] *** jamesd has joined #smartos[15:31:01] *** marsell has quit IRC[15:31:01] *** marsell_ is now known as marsell[15:40:25] <MerlinDMC> Licenser, i get about 600Kb/s on the pkgsrc repository[15:40:42] <MerlinDMC> that's normal for me[15:40:51] <Licenser> then it's propably my connection I guess I've to gick the ISP[15:41:03] *** marsell_ has joined #smartos[15:43:17] *** marsell has quit IRC[15:43:18] *** marsell_ is now known as marsell[15:44:18] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[15:49:40] *** Licenser has quit IRC[15:52:39] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[16:05:41] *** enmand has quit IRC[16:53:31] *** bradleymeck has joined #smartos[17:14:37] *** Licenser has quit IRC[17:17:35] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[17:26:05] *** worsoe has quit IRC[17:27:19] *** marsell has quit IRC[17:28:04] *** marsell has joined #smartos[17:31:21] <scanf> is it possible to make vmadm qemu-kvm emulate various CPUs?[17:31:33] <scanf> instead of just QEMU cpu[17:44:17] *** enmand has joined #smartos[17:45:50] *** scooby2 has joined #smartos[17:52:37] *** marsell has quit IRC[17:53:46] <Licenser> scanf you mean like emulating SPARC?[18:23:21] *** Licenser has quit IRC[18:26:30] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[18:33:13] *** enmand has quit IRC[18:33:19] *** Licenser has quit IRC[18:36:23] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[18:37:45] *** knweiss has joined #smartos[18:43:13] *** Licenser has quit IRC[18:43:49] *** Niamkik has quit IRC[18:46:36] *** jamesd_ has joined #smartos[18:49:31] *** jamesd has quit IRC[18:50:49] <scooby2> am I reading that right? smartos easily fits on a 1GB usb key?[19:06:23] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[19:10:40] *** Licenser has quit IRC[19:10:44] *** Licenser_ has joined #smartos[19:19:00] <MerlinDMC> scooby2, about 150mb[19:19:07] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[19:19:24] <MerlinDMC> plus some more for grub ... but you would not need that ;)[19:20:28] *** Licenser_ has quit IRC[19:23:17] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[19:25:04] *** mamash has left #smartos[19:29:13] *** bradleymeck has quit IRC[19:32:56] <scooby2> nice[19:32:56] *** enmand has joined #smartos[19:44:14] *** Licenser has quit IRC[19:49:07] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[19:57:30] *** bens1 has quit IRC[20:02:48] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[20:03:36] <scanf> Licenser: no imean like emulating Sandybridge or core2duo[20:03:56] <scanf> i can do it in a typical qemu-kvm setup[20:04:27] *** bens1 has quit IRC[20:04:53] <rmustacc> scanf: vmadm only supports specifying either host or qemu64[20:05:10] <rmustacc> But the underlying kvm does support certain models.[20:06:12] <Licenser> ah okayt[20:06:32] <rmustacc> Well, it's a combo of qemu and kvm there really.[20:06:48] <rmustacc> The kvm kernel module will mask out certain flags.[20:07:31] <rmustacc> Where by flags, I really mean the output of cpuid.[20:09:40] <scanf> rmustacc: how do you specify host then?[20:11:48] <MerlinDMC> "cpu_type":"host" ?[20:12:09] <MerlinDMC> can be found in the manpage of vmadm ;)[20:15:12] <siezer> whats the solaris equiv to linux's kpartx command? I'm trying to get at a partition on a vfat formatted USB image that I've lofiadm'ed[20:17:37] <siezer> all the lofiadm google results look like they assume a cdrom image[20:18:22] <MerlinDMC> siezer, https://github.com/nshalman/smartos-live/blob/4ca4136373a40d3f38fb785d2f26b0179766b85f/tools/build_usb#L171[20:19:00] <MerlinDMC> looks like you don't need to - maybe nahamu can help you if the code is not enough ... i'm not a solaris guy ;)[20:21:45] <siezer> MerlinDMC thanks! I'll assume there are enough clues in there to get me sorted.[20:21:58] <siezer> mkfs -F pcfs -o fat=32 ${lofidev/lofi/rlofi}:c[20:53:39] *** v12 has quit IRC[22:16:06] *** jelmd has quit IRC[22:24:18] *** ctable has quit IRC[22:26:07] *** marsell has joined #smartos[22:33:49] *** mamash has joined #smartos[22:39:21] *** jamesd_ has quit IRC[23:02:57] *** denizr has joined #smartos[23:08:29] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[23:11:18] <marsell> For what purpose?[23:12:14] *** marsell has quit IRC[23:15:27] *** bens1 has quit IRC[23:18:39] *** Licenser has quit IRC[23:21:32] *** Licenser has joined #smartos