July 2, 2012 
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July 2, 2012 [00:28:01] *** Licenser has quit IRC[00:28:48] *** Orpheus has joined #smartos[00:30:40] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[00:35:27] *** denizr has joined #smartos[00:38:24] *** denizr has quit IRC[00:45:15] *** gwr_netbook has joined #smartos[00:48:29] *** gwr_netbook_ has joined #smartos[00:48:53] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #smartos[00:49:26] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #smartos[00:49:54] *** gwr_netbook has quit IRC[00:49:57] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC[00:50:20] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #smartos[00:50:41] *** cmeiklejohn has left #smartos[00:51:05] *** jamesd__ has quit IRC[00:51:48] *** jamesd__ has joined #smartos[00:55:17] *** denizr has joined #smartos[01:00:41] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[01:05:02] *** hij1nx has joined #smartos[01:12:00] *** denizr has quit IRC[01:27:48] *** deirdres has quit IRC[01:28:13] *** banjiewen|away is now known as banjiewen[01:29:43] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[01:31:40] *** gwr_netbook_ has quit IRC[01:31:49] *** ryancnelson has quit IRC[01:51:56] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[01:52:54] *** hij1nx has quit IRC[01:56:39] *** banjiewen is now known as banjiewen|away[02:09:33] *** Kush- has joined #smartos[02:11:07] *** Kush- has joined #smartos[02:27:48] <Kush-> Trying to delete a img, I get: Failed to delete 22f1ecb9-2d08-4804-b960-f33e3c4bd6d7: delete failed after 5 attempts. (check the log for details)[02:27:51] <Kush-> Which log file do I check?[02:51:03] <ryancnelson> sorry, i don't have a current version of smartos in front of me (one that uses imagadm, instead of the older dsadm from previous versions) ….[02:51:18] <ryancnelson> on the one i have here, though… it looks like dsadm just uses console.log[02:52:33] <ryancnelson> so i'd suspect, though, that you've got an existing clone of that dataset, so you can't delete it until you delete or promote all it's children[02:53:37] <Kush-> hmm[02:53:38] <Kush-> http://pastebin.com/0zBEDEG9[02:53:45] <ryancnelson> how come you're deleting the image?[02:53:47] <Kush-> I tried to do a create also, that also failed.[02:53:52] <ryancnelson> for the disk space?[02:53:56] <Kush-> (after it failed, I tried to delete)[02:54:20] <ryancnelson> ah[02:54:39] <ryancnelson> what's joyent_smartosstandard_ntop.cfg look like[02:54:41] <ryancnelson> ?[02:55:00] <ryancnelson> private msg me with a gist if you don't want to share it's ip, etc...[02:56:17] <ryancnelson> yeah… the vm exists there… just didn't boot[02:56:28] <ryancnelson> so you'll need to delete the vm before your delete the img[02:56:56] <Kush-> http://pastebin.com/bY510NFb[02:57:05] <Kush-> that's pretty much all I have in there (with IP addresses changed)[02:57:10] <ryancnelson> did you try a vmadm delete 22f1ecb9-2d08-4804-b960-f33e3c4bd6d7[02:57:11] <ryancnelson> ?[02:57:26] <Kush-> yea, and that throws an error[02:57:41] <Kush-> I just emailed smartos-disccuss about it[02:58:07] <ryancnelson> do you really have an ntop nic tag?[02:59:35] <ryancnelson> … in /zones/22f1ecb9-2d08-4804-b960-f33e3c4bd6d7/root/tmp/vm.log … does it say why that vm didn't boot?[02:59:45] <ryancnelson> (there may be several vm.log.N files[03:00:36] <Kush-> isn't the ntop nic defined automatically? or do I need to create that explicitly? (using dladm)[03:00:51] <Kush-> I assume that is just a virtual interface "nic tag"[03:01:17] <ryancnelson> nooooooo....[03:01:18] <rmustacc> I think the log you're looking for is the one for vmadm.[03:01:18] <ryancnelson> :)[03:01:37] <rmustacc> That's in /var/log/vmactions.*[03:02:03] <rmustacc> IF you used a non-existent nic-tag then you've hit https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/issues/94[03:02:13] <Kush-> ok everyone pause for a second.. on call for work today! someone called me for a P1[03:02:16] <ryancnelson> if you didn't explicitly create new nics in your config file, and you just have the one physical interface from the initial setup questions, you almost certainly want 'admin' as your nic tag[03:02:17] <Kush-> brb[03:02:22] <ryancnelson> ok :)[03:02:26] <ryancnelson> good luck![03:02:39] <Kush-> what exactly is that nic tag?[03:02:39] <ryancnelson> hell of a weekend to be on call, if you touch ec2 or linux[03:03:13] <ryancnelson> it's an abstraction saying "when you create a vnic for a new virtual machine or zone, find the phys nic with this MAC, and hang it off there"[03:03:38] <ryancnelson> you answered a question during initial setup about which nic you want to use… and it made one.[03:04:03] <ryancnelson> if you only have one nic, then that mac addr is probably listed in /usbkey/config … and labeled "admin"[03:04:10] <ryancnelson> look at that file[03:05:13] <ryancnelson> … if you have several nics in your host, you can label them (that's what a nic tag is, a label you use to refer to various nics…. you can change it later, though, so it's an abstract concept, not hard-coded)[03:05:25] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[03:05:52] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[03:06:20] <ryancnelson> … so you could have nic_tags called maybe "external", and "nfs-Lan" , and "connected-to-tape-backup-robot" … and provision vm's with a leg into one or more of those networks.[03:06:25] <ryancnelson> but the one you get out of the box is "admin"[03:10:05] <Kush-> Got it[03:10:08] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[03:10:18] <Kush-> I was assuming it was the vnic name, so I called it ntop0 :)[03:10:57] <ryancnelson> yeah, vnic name is automatic, and it's net0 , (net1, net2… )[03:11:37] <ryancnelson> so, not sure why you can't delete that zone with vmadm… maybe 'cause it's incompletely provisioned[03:11:45] <ryancnelson> zoneadm could probably delete it[03:12:12] <rmustacc> As for why, it's all in that bug I linked.[03:12:23] <rmustacc> Or at least, that's basically the bug that covers this issue.[03:12:32] <ryancnelson> oh, cool. i missed that link[03:12:34] <rmustacc> If you reboot the node, it should be deletable.[03:13:04] <ryancnelson> but that also explains why you cant delete the image… but you probably don't need/want to now.[03:13:20] <rmustacc> I assumed he was trying to delete the VM, not the image.[03:13:38] <Kush-> not the image, only the VM (joyent brand)[03:13:41] <ryancnelson> just either fix the vm, or delete it with zonecfg delete -z <uuid> -F[03:14:02] <ryancnelson> (i said zoneadm before… meant zonecfg)[03:17:21] <ryancnelson> Kush, your page here is wrong: http://entic.net/Servers (open source os? Yep. Europe datacenter? Yep.)[03:17:39] *** jamesd__ has quit IRC[03:18:09] <Kush-> that page is stale now[03:18:22] <Kush-> needing a major face lift[03:20:24] *** trentster has quit IRC[03:38:03] *** mcavage has joined #smartos[03:42:37] *** ryancnelson has quit IRC[04:04:05] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[04:06:11] *** enmand has joined #smartos[04:15:58] *** mcavage has quit IRC[04:25:51] *** gwr_netbook has joined #smartos[04:25:54] *** enmand has quit IRC[04:29:45] *** ripratm has joined #smartos[04:39:55] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[04:45:37] *** ryancnelson has quit IRC[04:57:15] *** jamesd__ has joined #smartos[05:00:02] *** gwr_netbook_ has joined #smartos[05:02:12] *** gwr_netbook has quit IRC[05:30:37] *** jamesd__ has quit IRC[05:30:56] *** jamesd_ has joined #smartos[05:40:05] *** marsell has quit IRC[06:08:07] *** banjiewen|away is now known as banjiewen[06:31:32] *** gwr_netbook has joined #smartos[06:34:51] *** gwr_netbook_ has quit IRC[06:42:25] *** gwr_netbook has quit IRC[07:11:55] *** banjiewen is now known as banjiewen|away[07:21:01] *** papertigers has quit IRC[07:40:28] *** papertigers has joined #smartos[08:00:30] <MerlinDMC> morning (or smth like that)[08:03:08] *** aroop has joined #smartos[08:24:07] *** jamesd_ has quit IRC[08:34:30] <scanf> morning[08:34:38] <scanf> anyone have experience in using SSDs with zfs?[08:42:48] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[08:51:54] *** Licenser has quit IRC[09:14:28] *** Guest72647 is now known as Red_Devil[09:18:29] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[09:21:50] *** mamash has left #smartos[09:39:27] <Licenser> morning[09:39:40] <Licenser> scanf I use them but I can't tell you how good it turns out[09:43:14] <Licenser> fifo with CPU Meter: http://www.evernote.com/shard/s4/sh/d24172df-6187-493e-a669-e63f25834397/12af476f3a6327ee7f29e547d91de869[10:19:56] <konobi> morning[10:25:31] <jperkin> it is![10:31:54] *** mamash has joined #smartos[10:32:20] *** trentster has joined #smartos[10:35:39] <Licenser> morning konobi[10:35:47] <Licenser> jperkin UGT :) it is morning![10:47:13] *** marsell has joined #smartos[10:47:46] <konobi> jperkin: bout ye?[10:50:34] <jperkin> indeed[10:50:58] <konobi> eh?[10:51:57] <konobi> or was that a polite english way of saying "what?"[10:52:07] <konobi> =0)[10:52:32] <jperkin> I assumed it was a weird way of saying 'are you around?' :)[10:52:58] <konobi> jperkin: nah... it's a fairly common NI question[10:53:48] <jperkin> ah[10:54:00] <jperkin> I'm mostly good, bit tired, my eldest keeps waking me up at 6am.[10:55:04] <konobi> jperkin: did i ever show you the mdata-lite thing at all?[10:55:48] <MerlinDMC> mdata-lite? ... what?[10:56:07] <jperkin> konobi: I don't recall[10:56:11] <konobi> https://gist.github.com/54608867896c299f79cc[10:56:59] <konobi> you can use it with vmware to test images for metadata bootup goodness (smartos-vmtools)[10:57:36] <jperkin> ah, neat.[10:58:41] <konobi> line 123... of agent-lite.js... just throw stuff in there[11:00:49] <MerlinDMC> ahh ... so if you test your images using smth other than smartos as hypervisor ...[11:01:05] <konobi> yup[11:01:42] <konobi> and of course you can use vmware with raw disks images, which you can then dd to a zvol[11:02:23] <konobi> though you have vmware vs kvm drivers at that point[11:05:28] <konobi> jperkin: might be nice to test short-time spin up zones for things like pkgsrc builds, etc.[11:09:31] <jperkin> it's on the 'have a play with when I get 5 mins' list :)[11:10:27] <konobi> heh[11:10:56] <konobi> i somehow have a knack for wrangling things in a way they're not supposed to be used... vmware being one of them[11:12:48] <konobi> oh... 02:12 already... i should go... happy-post-canada-day everyone![11:17:18] <konobi> ttfn[11:35:00] *** AikoM has joined #smartos[11:38:08] *** Licenser has quit IRC[11:55:10] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[11:55:10] *** sable has quit IRC[11:56:41] *** darjeeling has joined #smartos[11:56:41] *** sable has joined #smartos[12:30:49] *** arekinath has quit IRC[12:41:04] *** arekinath has joined #smartos[12:43:34] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[12:50:35] <arekinath> LeftWing: I got you a dump file for that 5160 crash, in case it's any use eventually. :)[12:50:42] <arekinath> LeftWing: I updated https://github.com/jclulow/illumos-kvm/issues/8 with the link[13:06:09] *** darjeeling has quit IRC[13:08:11] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[13:17:14] <MerlinDMC> nahamu, after recreating the build zone it seems to run fine here too ... will try to boot that thing later - dunno what was wrong earlier[13:17:20] *** ryancnelson has left #smartos[13:26:14] *** bixu has joined #smartos[13:30:37] *** bixu has quit IRC[14:00:38] *** mwm has quit IRC[14:07:47] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[14:18:49] *** deirdres has quit IRC[14:23:58] *** enmand has joined #smartos[14:24:28] *** enmand has quit IRC[14:30:50] <nahamu> MerlinDMC: glad you're able to build again.[14:35:28] *** enmand has joined #smartos[14:40:01] *** darjeeling has joined 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http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/[16:52:26] <trentster> Licenser: excellent, will check it out now.[16:54:29] <trentster> Licenser: still http://release.project-fifo.net/0.1.1pre/fifofy.sh right?[17:02:29] <Licenser> nope[17:02:46] <Licenser> replace 0.1.1pre with dev[17:02:49] <nahamu> bdha: holy crap[17:15:12] *** AikoM has quit IRC[17:16:35] *** mamash has left #smartos[17:21:01] <trentster> Licenser: very cool looks great, what does it do if there are multiple nodes?[17:21:19] <Licenser> In theory show all of them[17:21:27] <Licenser> I want to reanrange the stuff a bit too[17:21:35] <Licenser> but I don't have multiple nodes :)[17:25:52] *** Licenser has quit IRC[17:39:32] *** denizr has quit IRC[17:48:19] *** denizr has joined #smartos[17:55:17] *** relling has joined #smartos[18:05:58] *** mamash has joined #smartos[18:06:05] *** dap has quit IRC[18:08:54] *** bens1 has quit IRC[18:16:50] *** relling has quit IRC[18:21:32] *** enmand has joined #smartos[18:27:28] *** banjiewen|away is now known as banjiewen[18:38:46] *** jdavis has joined #smartos[18:50:26] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[18:58:27] *** knweiss has joined #smartos[19:06:14] *** enmand has quit IRC[19:12:35] *** gwr has joined #smartos[19:15:09] *** aroop has quit IRC[19:27:26] *** alfism has joined #smartos[19:35:48] *** gregburd has quit IRC[19:41:10] *** hij1nx has joined #smartos[19:42:12] *** hij1nx has quit IRC[19:42:22] *** hij1nx has joined #smartos[19:42:25] *** hij1nx has left #smartos[19:42:51] *** hij1nx has joined #smartos[19:46:32] *** enmand has joined #smartos[19:49:15] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[20:03:37] *** banjiewen is now known as banjiewen|away[20:08:19] *** relling has joined #smartos[20:18:05] *** relling has quit IRC[20:19:32] <benbangert> what version of ZFS is smartos using?[20:20:08] <e^ipi> it's not really meaningful to talk about versions anymore[20:20:18] <e^ipi> nominally, pool version 28, zfs version 5[20:20:32] <benbangert> ok, so its compatible with the version in FreeBSD in theory[20:21:02] <e^ipi> suppose so, yeah[20:21:05] <benbangert> was curious because I'm wondering if its feasible to run FreeNAS under SmartOS[20:21:22] <e^ipi> the freebsd people and the illumos people work pretty closely on ZFS[20:21:27] <benbangert> cool[20:21:34] <nahamu> benbangert: depends what you mean by "run FreeNAS" and "under"[20:21:46] <benbangert> nahamu: using KVM[20:22:07] <nahamu> if you're using KVM, then the ZFS version in SmartOS doesn't matter.[20:22:25] <benbangert> ah, because the ZFS pool won't be directly exposed as such[20:22:30] <nahamu> correct.[20:23:57] *** relling has joined #smartos[20:27:43] <benbangert> a illumos distro can run in a zone?[20:28:07] <rmustacc> Well, a distro includes both the kernel and all of the userland.[20:28:47] <nahamu> benbangert: not really, no.[20:29:24] <benbangert> mmm, trying to figure out the best/easiest way to run a NAS type thing with SmartOS... while I could run FreeNAS with KVM, I'd lose some of the ZFS features by having another filesystem layer in between afaik[20:29:51] <jeffpc> benbangert: you could run it in the GZ[20:29:53] * jeffpc hides[20:29:55] <benbangert> http://catn.com/vcluster/openindiana-vs-nexentastor-vs-freenas/ makes me think just making a zone, and sticking napp-it in there with the basic file-sharing services running would be best[20:30:20] <nahamu> benbangert: so the biggest roadblock there would be if you wanted to serve NFS.[20:30:51] <benbangert> why?[20:30:52] <nahamu> you can't serve NFS from a zone (nor, I think, use the in-kernel CIFS)[20:30:56] <benbangert> ahh[20:30:59] *** banjiewen|away is now known as banjiewen[20:31:15] <e^ipi> i serve it from the gz, and manage the files from a zone.[20:31:21] <e^ipi> the datasets are lofi mounted in[20:31:56] <jeffpc> Licenser: cool work on fifo...[20:32:01] <nahamu> if you delegated a file system to a zone, could the GZ still serve it via NFS?[20:32:01] <Licenser> I am kind thanks mate :)[20:32:06] <e^ipi> nahamu: yup[20:32:08] <Licenser> http://www.evernote.com/shard/s4/sh/7277e252-4bbc-4fef-89f9-e77ad627893b/0250d9ac0fd9c0ae9403c4623e198ca2 <- newest screenshotof the dev version[20:32:27] * Licenser wonders where "I am kind" came from[20:32:34] <benbangert> not sure I need NFS, I mostly move stuff around with AFP, and some clients on samba[20:32:57] <nahamu> benbangert: with userspace samba and AFP servers, you could probably do it all from a zone.[20:34:07] <jeffpc> Licenser: I assume you've seen http://dtrace.org/blogs/brendan/2011/12/18/visualizing-device-utilization/[20:34:10] <Licenser> jeffpc if you've any ideas/problems/suggestions or wishes just let me know :)[20:34:29] <Licenser> yea it's way cooler then mine :)[20:34:43] <jeffpc> Licenser: I still need to get smartos going on a real box to play with...[20:34:43] <benbangert> I had previously thought zones were more like LXC or FreeBSD jails where the system contained inside believes itself to be a separate syste[20:34:45] <Licenser> fifo's is prety much the CPU meter you know for every semi modern OS[20:35:01] <Licenser> jeffpc fifo works fine in VMWare :)[20:35:03] <rmustacc> benbangert: That is the case.[20:35:08] <jeffpc> Licenser: true :)[20:35:12] *** denizr has quit IRC[20:35:26] <benbangert> rmustacc: oh, then why can't NFS run inside a zone?[20:35:29] <rmustacc> But certain features that exist are implemented in a way that they don't work in the local zone.[20:35:32] *** denizr has joined #smartos[20:35:33] <benbangert> ahhh[20:35:49] <rmustacc> Basically the kernel isn't properly making the state for that zone aware.[20:35:58] <benbangert> got it[20:36:39] <jeffpc> benbangert: CIFS and NFS servers are in-kernel[20:36:44] <jeffpc> benbangert: not userspace processes[20:36:46] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[20:39:55] *** denizr has quit IRC[20:42:25] *** denizr has joined #smartos[20:55:53] <Alasdairrr> There is of course, this: http://unfs3.sourceforge.net/[20:56:00] <Alasdairrr> No idea if it works or how awfully slow it is[20:57:33] *** hij1nx has quit IRC[20:58:12] *** denizr has quit IRC[20:58:33] *** denizr has joined #smartos[21:02:02] <benbangert> lol[21:05:20] *** relling has quit IRC[21:15:00] <richlowe> Nexenta had done at least some work on both cifs and NFS in zones, it's unclear (to me) how much[21:15:20] <benbangert> I'm fine putting it in the GZ[21:15:37] <benbangert> though since netatalk and samba run in user-space, that should be fine in a zone[21:22:29] *** marsell has quit IRC[21:38:59] *** _alram has joined #smartos[21:39:34] <_alram> Hi[21:39:40] <_alram> so I just saw this: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/184463/2012/07/sort/time_rev/page/1/entry/0:9/20120702142427:26467D5A-C473-11E1-A353-A79345883244/[21:40:23] <_alram> and I had the same issue today. So I did a quick & dirty fix to have multiple cdrom in vmadm start command line[21:40:26] <_alram> https://gist.github.com/3035208[21:50:56] <Kush-> Ugh damnit, install is numbering my nic's incorrectly :( It wants to make e1000g0 my 3rd (physically) interface.[21:53:39] <MerlinDMC> Kush- you just need a nictag ... not the dev name ... so why think about that numbering? :)[21:54:06] <nahamu> yeah, tag it by MAC address and you don't have to worry.[21:54:39] <Licenser> I think nfs/cifs in zones would be pretty darn awesome[21:56:07] <rmustacc> Kush-: The inherent problem is there there isn't a good reliable way to do the ordering in start up. It's based on hardware probe order and then persisted.[21:56:20] <rmustacc> Hence nic tags to work around that fact.[21:56:43] <rmustacc> Though it is understandable that you want a common name that might persist across reboots, the problem is how does that name change as the hardware changes (say you add nics).[21:58:38] <Kush-> Hmm, well, these are on board nics. I have 4 interfaces. MAC addresses end with e6, e7, e8, e9. I generally want e6 to be my e1000g0. I understand that it doesn't really matter I guess with the nic tags... but not sure. What if I have a standardized firewall that uses e1000g0 to mean a specific type of interface? (e.g. external)[21:59:43] <rmustacc> _alram: It seems like it gets around the inherent problem, but it doesn't stop you from exceeding, for example, the qemu limit on the number of IDE devices.[22:00:22] <Kush-> I suppose I could get it to disable 3 of those interfaces and then boot-install.[22:00:24] <rmustacc> _alram: Also, the absolute path for the require is extremely purposeful.[22:00:27] <Kush-> and then re-enable them.[22:00:34] <_alram> yep, that's why it's dirty. I'm not aware of these limits. I needed it today to install a windows machine with virtio drivers[22:01:26] <_alram> for the absolute path, it's just because i copied /usr/vm to /opt and instead of setting up NODE_PATH. I chose the lazy way[22:02:03] <rmustacc> _alram: Gotcha.[22:02:19] <rmustacc> I also misread some of the arrows in that diff.[22:02:46] <rmustacc> _alram: But yeah, what you have there is the basics of working, just not sufficient to go back yet.[22:03:02] <rmustacc> Kush-: Well, what do you have that needs to currently speak in terms of that name?[22:03:37] *** banjiewen is now known as banjiewen|away[22:03:45] <_alram> rmustacc: do you have any doc on the limits? I can look into that and do something more appropriate[22:04:25] <rmustacc> _alram: You'd have to double check the QEMU docs. I don't have a handy URL right now, sorry.[22:04:35] <_alram> no problem, I'll check the doc[22:09:01] <Kush-> rmustacc: should/would I be able to enable ipfilter with specific interface rules in the GZ? ipfilter would work with inst naming.[22:10:20] <rmustacc> Kush-: Seems like there is where it breaks down.[22:10:55] <rmustacc> Not sure I have a good immediate answer off hand, but perhaps bring it up during office hours Thursday.[22:12:08] <nahamu> Kush-: I think if you don't configure the actual devices, but rather use vnics with a deterministic name, it would ease your ipfilter issue.[22:12:32] <nahamu> http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Managing+NICs[22:17:46] *** Licenser has quit IRC[22:21:29] *** Licenser has joined #smartos[23:02:29] *** hij1nx has joined #smartos[23:07:23] *** neophenix_ has joined #smartos[23:09:57] *** neophenix has quit IRC[23:09:57] *** neophenix_ is now known as neophenix[23:16:02] <konobi> Kush-: ipfilter on an interface is only important if you have an IP on them... in the external case, the vnic that has the IP on it is external0 so you can use that[23:20:59] <nahamu> +1 to what konobi said[23:25:52] <benbangert> is there something indicating which things need to be stored on the usbkey for persistence across reboots vs. on the zpool?[23:26:12] <benbangert> or is it just a mish-mash of "write this back to the usbkey, this gets installed in the gz"[23:26:47] *** hij1nx has quit IRC[23:27:09] *** hij1nx has joined #smartos[23:28:24] *** Prudhvi_ has quit IRC[23:31:11] <nahamu> benbangert: nothing gets stored on the actual USB stick with SmartOS.[23:31:18] <nahamu> /usbkey/config is on the pool.[23:31:25] <benbangert> ahhhhh[23:31:29] <nahamu> only SDC actually stores things on the USB stick[23:31:43] <nahamu> (which is probably where the name comes from)[23:31:48] <ryancnelson> yeah… that's a *cache* of the usbkey[23:31:58] <benbangert> that makes a lot more sense[23:32:24] <ryancnelson> … /mnt/usbkey (if you're using it) is the actual thumbdrive[23:32:44] <ryancnelson> … wish we could change that now, but it's kind of written in stone for various reasons[23:33:25] <ryancnelson> if you're booting from a read-only cdrom, it's still called /usbkey[23:33:45] <ryancnelson> … and it's obviously not being written out to the piece of spinning plastic :)[23:34:43] <benbangert> oh, no cd-rw support? :)[23:35:48] <ryancnelson> that'd be a little slow...[23:37:09] <konobi> pxe or usbkey are the better options tbh[23:43:37] *** enmand has quit IRC[23:52:21] *** banjiewen|away is now known as banjiewen