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[09:23:12] <nickarls> anyone around for a quick brain-exercise in injection/proxing? ;-)
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[09:30:25] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: ^^^ bored enough for the challenge?
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[10:54:45] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: hey
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[11:04:42] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: howdy
[11:04:51] <stuartdouglas> you had a question?
[11:05:19] <nickarls> I have an entity for application settings and a sessionscoped-producer for that (since the Setting is not a bean and I want to inject the settings)
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[11:05:47] <nickarls> now I need to change settings mid-session but most session scoped beans have already grabbed the old settings object for their injections
[11:06:10] <nickarls> and I need some sort of proxyfication for the Settings object, I think
[11:06:19] <nickarls> can decorators be used for this?
[11:06:35] <stuartdouglas> if you are using a session scoped object it should be proxies already
[11:06:37] <nickarls> or do I just have to craete a session scoped class from the entity in order to get the proxy-effect
[11:06:54] <nickarls> is the session-scoped producer a proxy in itself?
[11:07:16] <stuartdouglas> yes
[11:07:24] <stuartdouglas> if you inject a normal scoped object it is proxied
[11:07:31] <stuartdouglas> and session scope is a normal scope
[11:08:02] <nickarls> hmm, strange. Wonder where it can get the old value from, then. have to look closer into it
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[17:56:51] <clerum> is flash scoped going usuable via @FlashScoped in jsf 2.2?
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[19:25:13] <jbossbot> git [jms] push develop 6a93e25.. Marek Schmidt SEAMJMS-58, make the statuswatcher work on both AS6 and AS7
[19:25:14] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMJMS-58] Make the JMS Status Watcher work on both AS6 and AS7 [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Task, Major, Marek Schmidt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMJMS-58
[19:25:14] <jbossbot> git [jms] push develop feed405.. John Ament Merge pull request #17 from maschmid/SEAMJMS-58...
[19:25:14] <jbossbot> git [jms] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/jms/compare/4e4cc99...feed405
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[19:59:55] <edburns> bleathem: Hello, are you here?
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[20:22:49] <bleathem> edburns: hello
[20:23:34] <edburns> bleathem: Hi there. I was talking to Lincoln Friday about some new events from the flash.
[20:23:58] <edburns> bleathem: I have them implemented, but I wanted to bring to your attention a subtlety that goes beyond just those new issues.
[20:24:22] <bleathem> ok, I'm not familiar with the conversation, but go ahead
[20:24:41] <edburns> bleathem: It's ok, you don't need to be.  Here's the deal.
[20:25:41] <edburns> Any of the events that JSF (or Servlet, for that matter) fires are *not* propogated across the nodes in a cluster, even though the data that the events pertain to *is* propogated across the nodes in the cluster.
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[20:26:31] <edburns> Let me say that again, now that Markus Struberg is here.
[20:26:37] <edburns> Any of the events that JSF (or Servlet, for that matter) fires are *not* propogated across the nodes in a cluster, even though the data that the events pertain to *is* propogated across the nodes in the cluster.
[20:27:16] <struberg> nope definitely not
[20:27:20] <edburns> For example if you declare an HttpSessionAttributeListener, and you do some operations that cause that listener to be invoked, it will only be invoked on *one* node in the cluster.
[20:27:35] <struberg> edburns if you speak of  CDI events
[20:27:56] <struberg> then those events are just propagated to _active_ contextual instances of the current thread
[20:27:57] <edburns> This is true even if the data about which the event is notifying *is* replicated across the nodes in the cluster.
[20:28:10] <struberg> yup, events != messages
[20:28:18] <edburns> exactly.
[20:28:42] <bleathem> sounds gross
[20:28:50] <edburns> Ok.  I wanted to share this here because Lincoln's main impetus for filing JAVASERVERFACES_SPEC_PUBLIC-766, which I just implemented, was to provide CDI support for the JSF flash scope.
[20:29:33] <edburns> When I did my TDD for the feature, and the hudson job ran the tests with clustering enabled (which generally I don't do locally because that's the hudson job's job), the test failed for this reason.
[20:29:54] <bleathem> so the support is there, but won't work (out of the box anyways) for clustered environments
[20:30:05] <bleathem> is CDI 1.1 doing anything to address this? do you know struberg?
[20:30:18] <edburns> bleathem: Yes, that is correct.
[20:32:03] <struberg> nope this is explicitely left out
[20:32:16] <bleathem> ok
[20:32:42] <edburns> Ok, thanks for your time.  END OF LINE.
[20:32:54] <bleathem> perhaps something a JMS/CDI bridge could solve, maybe something John Ament could write an extension for
[20:33:06] <bleathem> thanks for looking at this edburns
[20:33:24] <bleathem> I gotta head out for a bit -- afk for a while
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[20:34:48] <struberg1> oops, lost contact
[20:34:55] <struberg1> nope this is explicitely left out
[20:34:55] <struberg1> 20:22
[20:34:55] <struberg1> cdi events are really only propagated to currently active beans for the current beanmanager
[20:34:55] <struberg1> 20:23
[20:34:55] <struberg1> so they won't even get propagated to non-active conversations
[20:34:55] <struberg1> 20:23
[20:34:56] <struberg1> even if the conversation gets reactivated later
[20:34:56] <struberg1> 20:24
[20:34:57] <struberg1> think about it as a very comfortable implementation of the observer/observable pattern
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[20:41:54] <struberg1> edburns the problem as I see it is that there is not 1 FlashScope at a time
[20:42:09] <struberg1> because if you have concurrent requests
[20:42:20] <struberg1> then there might be lots of on a server at the same time
[20:42:35] <struberg1> theoretically even in the same session (ajax on different browser tabs)
[20:43:22] <struberg1> so any of those PostConstruct and PreDestroy events must always only get delivered to ManagedBeans of the very scope
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[20:44:27] <struberg1> also consider the funny behaviour if the redirect is faster than finishing the current faces request
[20:44:34] <struberg1> had this pretty often already
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[20:48:33] <struberg1> oki, need to go off to get some drinks ;) gn8!
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[20:50:58] <jose_freitas> lol, I have a dependency artifact that's missing on my project and I don't know who is trying to use. When I run mvn dependency:tree it fails because it fails to download the same dependency. :)
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[21:58:44] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master ca9f9c8.. Marek Schmidt update arquillian.glassfish.version to 1.0.0.CR2
[21:58:44] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master 9e0570f.. Shane Bryzak Merge pull request #8 from maschmid/arq-upgrade...
[21:58:44] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/parent/compare/616cd7e...9e0570f
[21:59:01] <jbossbot> git [remoting] push develop f1575db.. Tomas Remes SEAMREMOTING-52 -AS 6 profile update
[21:59:02] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREMOTING-52] Could not deploy model example to AS6 [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Tomas Remes] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREMOTING-52
[21:59:02] <jbossbot> git [remoting] push develop e2fb09b.. Shane Bryzak Merge pull request #27 from tremes/update_as6_profile...
[21:59:02] <jbossbot> git [remoting] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/remoting/compare/262b5e3...e2fb09b
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